meanwhile https://i.moep.tv/fPpqI94I.png
#general
limber knotBOT
limpid comet
i will complain about electron all i want
i've never had an electron app feel performant
stiff yarrow
its 2020 get 32GB of system memory already
limpid comet
i have 32gb of system memory
limber knotBOT
I have
limpid comet
but i don't want it to be wasted on fucking discord 
worn ember
why dont you get me 32gb of system memory already
coarse lily
phoenix what's Ripcord?
limber knotBOT
how else would I run 2x minecraft, 2x minecraft server, 1x bungee and intellij while still having chrome open?
worn ember
dedcord
limber knotBOT
it's a third party discord client
coarse lily
Ahh
worn ember
thats where i run out of ram phoenix
merry talon
if discord isn't performant you're like
worn ember
2 clients a server intellij and chrome is about the limit
stiff yarrow
its 2020 go back to using Firefox already
merry talon
verifiably a minority
stiff yarrow
coarse lily
Risky product if you're selling it.
merry talon
also try vscode
limpid comet
vscode ๐คฎ
worn ember
yeah not for java dev
merry talon
oh so you just have bad opinions all around
limpid comet
do you not like them?
merry talon
I got it
dapper nacelle
limpid comet
sorry my views don't exactly line up with yours
dapper nacelle
every god damn time this happens
limpid comet
yes, an i7 9750H is garbage
dapper nacelle
watching funny videos at 2AM and trying to hold your laugh back is impossible
worn ember
just watch with ur eyes closed, ez
limpid comet
yeah i have yet to switch over to ripcord
been meaning to for a while, i have it installed it's just not my goto thing to have opened
worn ember
i get framedrops in dota when i get a steam notification lol
it goes from 250fps to 30
limber knotBOT
main issue with ripcord (beyond it not being open source) is that it doesn't handle voice connection issues automatically
limpid comet
i'd imagine so
yeah i do wish ripcord was FOSS
what is the creator's justification for that
worthy geode
i get framedrops in dota when i get a steam notification lol
Disable the overlay, but tbh can't confirm, my dota is fine even with notifications
limber knotBOT
bโluโelโy: he wants to sell the slack functionality and apparently is a bit iffy about the whole discord TOS/reverse engineering
you can't really understand proprietary devs ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
like I would've contributed bug fixes lol
worn ember
@worthy geode i just close the notif and its fine again, its just weird
i'm on steam dev builds tho
might be why
limber knotBOT
I actually want the overlay though, that's why I used the vanilla client in the fist place xD
worn ember
havent had it in a while so might have been fixed already
well that and i dont have many notifs
limber knotBOT
but seeing as it leaks all your running game to discord I will try to not run it as much anymore lol
worn ember
not really hah
i know the calc repo is on github
but thats about it
wut, i cant even use ( ) in it
how tf do you graph anything that isnt a straight line then
limpid comet
why does discord have a process named #cloud-discussion open
https://i.imgur.com/J3FOesf.png
i haven't been in that channel for like a day
worthy geode
that updates very slow, but might be the fault of task manager, I have that with other apps that change their name as well
limpid comet
ah yes good point
worthy geode
Spotify for example does that too
limpid comet
i could never use the spotify desktop app
it had some weird memory leak bug that would take like 4gb of memory and pin my cpu at 100%
worthy geode
it had some weird memory leak bug that would take like 4gb of memory and pin my cpu at 100%
maybe too many songs? idk, 200 MB for me, and its Electron as well I think xD
limpid comet
idk it would happen before i even logged in so i think it was just a bug with the client
though i haven't tried it in like a year so /shrug
formal turret
3.1k songs only 255MB for me at least
limpid comet
huh that's actually pretty good
worthy geode
Its running several task for some reason tho ๐
They switched spotify to basically a windows app a while ago, I had some issues with it before that as well
limber knotBOT
that's normal for any chrome-based app
that's how multi threading works in javascript
runs
cosmic raft
potent fossil
gud song kash
worn ember
cuz uwp
minor badge
@limpid comet good night bluwuely ๐ณ
worn ember
amd 
worthy geode
https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Windows/Why-is-the-UWP-Win10-version-of-Spotify-so-resource-heavy/td-p/4932012
I had some issues before that, mainly that the library did not load at all
worn ember
odd, at first the calculator didnt let me use ( or ) then it suddenly worked
but then didnt let me use letters
then it suddenly worked too
just windows things lol
worn ember
thats the one i have rn
base speed is a bit higher but other than that, not much better
for the i7 that is
cosmic raft
I got a 6700K CPU just sitting out on my desk :p
lean kiln
mine is in the closet lol
potent fossil
im still using a 6700K
lean kiln
Mine was unstable at like 4.1ghz
worn ember
tbh i never max it out
worn ember
yeah seemed fine for me at 4.5 aswel
lean kiln
are the new amd chips on the same socket as the 3000 series
potent fossil
If I push it any higher it starts getting unstable but it sails at 4.5ghz with no issue
I'll upgrade one day but it's been doing just fine
worn ember
my GPU shits the bed before my CPU most of the time anyway
potent fossil
I'm still using a GTX 1080. Got that when it was the hottest shit out there. I do want one of the newer cards one of these days
Just not priority
vernal moth
I got a spare 6700k with 32gb ram and a Mainboard too if anyone wants it ^^
worthy geode
1070 here, still fine for everything in 1080p
potent fossil
send 2 me in US mini
vernal moth
Am not upgrading from my 1080 any time soon, not worth it
sand drum
I canโt even port forward. Sad
worn ember
whats the RAM?
worthy geode
Thinking about upgrading my screens tho, so maybe I need a new GPU after that
formal turret
3000 series would be worth as long as you were able to buy them as MSRP
worn ember
shipping to belgium shouldn't be too expensive :p
formal turret
but ๐ฆ can't so 1080 is nice i guess
worn ember
hello sand person
vernal moth
Hyperx stuff DED
potent fossil
my 1080 drives 3x 2K monitors (2560x1080), but I only game on the center monitor. NVIDIA surround works, but it just makes me dizzy so I don't
vernal moth
Gsand was pinged by an @ everyone, he now has to prepend being an active member of this community ^^
Hey 0/
worn ember
DDR4 mini?
vernal moth
Not sure actually
onyx steeple
LOL, I was member #2 of paper
potent fossil
gsand is daddy
vernal moth
Does 6700k use DDR3 or 4?
lean kiln
4
potent fossil
4
vernal moth
It was a joke ^^
onyx steeple
does that make z750 mama?
formal turret
i've got 3 1080p monitors on my 1080 but only the middle is at 144hz
potent fossil
no, z750 is grandpa
vernal moth
Then it would be ddr4
onyx steeple
๐คฃ
vernal moth
Am not at home, I can send some pics I guess
scarlet olive
anyone have a good way plugin to create a single ITEM control menu. some gui mapped to 1 item that emulates a chest and justlets the common commands needed instead of forcing tablets to /this and /that
vernal moth
Tomorrow I mean
potent fossil
not sure what you are asking @scarlet olive
worn ember
i mean, i'm legit looking to upgrade to 32gb lol
formal turret
32gb of ram is pretty nice
scarlet olive
trying to make a gui menu for some commands /whatever whater but bound to an item you can hold, well force into allusers like a common control menu item.
worn ember
was waiting for my payment, but since mini will now obviously give them to me for free that saves me some $$$
coarse lily
I'm starting to piece together a new PC.
onyx steeple
@cosmic raft hey amigo
potent fossil
so you want an item to open a gui with options that run commands
coarse lily
I'm way out of the damn loop
onyx steeple
Hey @coarse lily
golden gust
I mean, just add some data to the item that you can look for
golden gust
ideally using the data container thing
onyx steeple
Blast from the past haha
mighty storm
omg it's gsand
woven otter
omg gsand
worn ember
i vaguely remember gsands disturbing pfp
coarse lily
I just joined this Discord yesterday
scarlet olive
@potent fossil i guess. like some of the fancy mc servers have. like a control item always in your bar so people dont have to remember al the /warp here and whatever that commands
woven otter
.lombok
onyx steeple
omg gsand
limber knotBOT
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
mighty storm
It's like when a former CEO returns to visit the company
woven otter
wait wrong
coarse lily
So I'm obviously the gsand harbinger.
vernal moth
@worn ember just remind me tomorrow
potent fossil
are you talking about coding something or looking for a plugin that does that for you? @scarlet olive
worn ember
aight
onyx steeple
Hey @serene bolt
serene bolt
long time no see :D
scarlet olive
@potent fossil plugin. i think maybe deluxmenus ? how how do i get some item always in the users bar?
worn ember
gsand: appears once in a blue moon
also gsand: pinging everyone
mighty storm
PURE ๐ฅบ#
onyx steeple
I came back when covid hit, left when my work was like "come back tomorrow, everythings on fire"
potent fossil
I'm not sure of a plugin that does this for you tbh 
golden gust
with rando plugins, god knows, there's always those lobby plugins, but ๐คทโโ๏ธ
potent fossil
It's not so hard to code, but...if you don't know code, then it's impossible
scarlet olive
darn. ive seen it on some stuff like that but no idea how they do it.
potent fossil
I mean you can hire somebody to do it for you, but idk any public plugins
golden gust
well, there's the hub plugins, but ๐คทโโ๏ธ
scarlet olive
i have some users now using bedrock also connected to paperspigot ๐ and typing commands on a tablet is mostly hard ๐
worthy geode
Its paid tho, but I have heard its quite good
potent fossil
That's cool but not what he wants Mal
worthy geode
I don't really understand what he wants tbh
golden gust
Just have some like, small 3 character tops alias or something
potent fossil
He wants an item in the action bar that you can click that opens an inventory GUI with items you can click which are mapped to commands
"action bar", that's not the right term
but...brain
scarlet olive
oh thats a payed plugin. i really just want something simple if possible
golden gust
hotbar u dumfuq
potent fossil
ya dat
scarlet olive
hottub
woven otter
simple rekt
golden gust
simps just mentally rekt
woven otter
is what you are
potent fossil
it's true
serene ether
makes @ Duck into a juicy foie gras
@potent fossil wut dat
potent fossil
fatty duck liver
potent fossil
yes
woven otter
disgusting and offensive
serene ether
yum ๐
woven otter
this is why we have covid
potent fossil
well, the way you make it is by force feeding ducks a shitload of food until they get superfat.jpg, doesnt it sound fun @woven otter
woven otter
let's try it on you to see if it's fun
potent fossil
no
woven otter
is it not fun enough then
potent fossil
its fun for ducks
woven otter
worn ember
garlic bread
potent fossil
pretty good
worn ember
tbh duck is pretty good
potent fossil
balut is best
worn ember
tastes ab it like turkey
serene ether
"fun"
potent fossil
it's good though
worn ember
is it leaking sauce?
potent fossil
huh
golden gust
yea, mustard sauce
vernal moth
What did I walk into? Lol
woven otter
you're the worst
worn ember
food talk
golden gust
should I go see a doctor?
woven otter
someone should
ruby sequoia
wassup yall
potent fossil
wassup child
ruby sequoia
im 26
potent fossil
why do you have a child as your pfp then
ruby sequoia
why cant i
serene ether
idc if ur 26 or 294639234 or -243
potent fossil
coarse lily
Haha
vernal moth
I'll show myself out
serene ether
alive
worn ember
ew
potent fossil
yes
serene ether
excuse me
worn ember
@vernal moth its time to stop
serene ether
ill just
potent fossil
it's good
serene ether
go over here
potent fossil
they're usually like idk 20 days old
vernal moth
Yeah i stopped drinking for the night don't worry
serene ether
๐คข
vernal moth
We going to bed soon
potent fossil
out of curiosity, is it possible to make an entity appear transparent?
(such as a zombie)
limpid comet
afaik no
potent fossil
f
limber knotBOT
i don't think so -- there are some workarounds you can do for fun effects
like the wither low-health glow still appears even when the entity's invisible
maybe something is possible with outlines/highlights
limpid comet
can you add that effect to other entities?
limber knotBOT
nah, it's part of the entity renderer clientside
i guess creepers have the charged effect
but there's nothing universal
deep vigil
potent fossil
k thanks kiddos
potent fossil
good god, remind me never to ask a question in EngineHub again
it's "braindead simple", sorry for being braindead!
limpid comet
what were you asking
potent fossil
I wanted to check if a smaller region is fully inside another region. My initial thought was check the parent, but that has nothing to do with it. Apparently:
I wanted to check if a smaller region is fully inside another region.
is XY.
potent fossil
Whatever, I'm over it. I'll just figure this out myself.
What can you expect, it's EngineHub.
Me is the only actually reasonable person there
No point in asking there
limpid comet
yeah i've seen wiz be like that a bit
coarse lily
The Minecraft community would be a lot better if it wasn't so shitty.
potent fossil
Well paper has made a lot of good strides with the new CG. But other places are still Paper 1.0 level shitty.
EH is one of those
coarse lily
Haha
potent fossil
I just left it. No point even being there lmao
potent fossil
yea
limpid comet
yeah it seems to be slowly improving - paper seems to have carved out a nice little niche where people are actually constructive
potent fossil
Oh also, they had to argue with me over the fact that my thing was XY and then said it's braindead simple to check the coords. Like, sorry that I didn't think of that and thought, perhaps, there was a method for it. Couldn't find it in the docs.
But yeah, my bad!!!1
zealous wedge
ok simple yes you are upset, but uh "is parent related to whether one region contains the other" is like one of the most common WG questions, and at least when i was involved was covered pretty clearly in the docs
potent fossil
That was one part of the question
A simple no would suffice to that, and the actual question "how can i check if a region is inside another one" could've been answered.
It's really that easy
But, sure, whatever. I don't really feel like arguing about it. It's XY, it's braindead simple. No problem.
And to that point, describing something as "braindead simple" is pretty offensive and insensitive. Not that I've told anyone, nor should I have to, but my cousin just died from braindeath so what a nice reminder!
warm anchor
potent fossil
But what do you really expect from wiz
untold copper
gm bois
potent fossil
sup
coarse lily
Also, people coming in asking the same question that 9000 other people asked is frustrating, yeah. But the person asking doesn't know that.
It's like when you go to a store and the person working there is pissed at you because they had a bad day. You weren't part of their bad day.
So there's something to be said for at least not unleashing some wrath on someone.
potent fossil
I don't mind being linked directly to docs and being told to fuck off. I have a problem with then saying it's XY, me trying to clarify, them arguing that it's XY to get me to submit to their superiority, me finally giving in, and then getting a backhanded answer and my intelligence insulted
coarse lily
Although, yeah, it's frustrating when people seemingly need their hands held and don't do the work.
potent fossil
I don't think I was asking for handholding
limpid comet
i think some people in support positions already have an opinion of "the person asking this question is dumdum" and assumes they don't know what they're talking about
potent fossil
yeah, so my point still stands
remind me not to ask questions in enginehub ever again
tangina nila lahat
only @limpid comet understands what I've just said, he's good boi
zealous wedge
the problem is that assumption is mostly true
potent fossil
well whatever if im a dumdum then im so sorry for ruining their day and im so sorry for complaining, i will just shut up and solve it myself. i submit. they are superior. i am so sorry.
coarse lily
Sorry simple - I didn't mean you
I mean even if they DID take it that way, to lash out isn't helpful to ANYONE.
And yeah, people in support positions get real jaded real fast. Which sucks.
The person asking a question doesn't know everyone else asks. Getting pissed at them only makes you a dick.
potent fossil
it's whatever, i got the answer. check coords. I just was not pleased with how it was delivered. oh well
from now on ill ask elsewhere or just solve it my own way because im over it
ima watch spiderman into the spiderverse now
ancient bolt
yeah spigot to srg
coarse lily
What's srg?
ancient bolt
that's gitkraken looking at the repo & updating as paperweight adds spigot patches and remaps them
hence the old vs remapped branches
srg is a set of unique names for all classes, fields, and methods in minecraft's source code
coarse lily
Ahh
ancient bolt
not intended to be human readable, instead focused on making it easier to handle in code
it's a foundational step in order for us to use mojang's mappings in paper's sources
coarse lily
Thanks, that's pretty helpful.
limpid comet
oh yes i've heard of searge
zealous wedge
glad to see you've gotten patch remapping working ๐
ancient bolt
I'm in a weird mental state of disbelief right now tbh
currently remapping patch 272 and it hasn't failed yet
zealous wedge
go knock on some wood :p
ancient bolt
and I'm looking at the results and it all looks perfect
course patches can and will happily fail to apply even if they "look" good if they're just a couple characters off
but lets hope that doesn't happen
zealous wedge
still, this is really good progress to see
zealous wedge
500 on the impl side i think?
limpid comet
so
ancient bolt
ah so I'm almost halfway through
limpid comet
what does this new code look like?
zealous wedge
well, it's machine-readable names
i imagine it'll look something like forge's patches?
except by-commit rather than by MC source file, at least at first
limpid comet
wdym by machine readable
limpid comet
oh wow
ancient bolt
spigot mappings patch:
limpid comet
yep that is definitely not human readable i tell you that
ancient bolt
srg mappings patch:
limpid comet
and what's the point of this?
zealous wedge
means no more obfhelpers
there's established tooling to remap from SRG to MCP or other names at dev time
ancient bolt
oh no patch 311 failed to apply
limpid comet
ohh i see
so current patches -> machine readable, and machine readable -> code mappings
ancient bolt
there's a lot of desire to use mojang's mappings for patches as well so that'll likely be what we use
limpid comet
yeah for sure
ancient bolt
but we're still deep in the trenches of building this
limpid comet
that's really cool though
nice job, keep it up 
wait
will this have any effect on NMS?
limpid comet
isee, alright
minor badge
not unless you choose that it should at least ^^
ancient bolt
at runtime it'll all be NMS like it used to be
limpid comet
when it is compiled it still goes to NMS
i see
wait wym proxi
say if i compiled paper with mappings and used that as a dependency, would that work?
though any plugin using standard NMS would break i'd assume
minor badge
you can just cut out the remap to spigot step
whether we'll have an easy option for it i dont know, but thatd be fully viable
if i ever get around to looking into cadix tools, id be happy to look at making a gradle plugin for mojmappings on compiletime for plugins, while spigot after compile
zealous wedge
yeah, if you did something it'd be like the modded gradle plugins -- the MC server jar gets remapped and patched locally, and at build your jar is remapped back to spigot mappings
ancient bolt
I'm anticipating that being a feature of paperweight @minor badge
a "plugin dev" mode of the plugin
minor badge
epic
luckily that wouldnt even need to make sure libs and calls n shit work as only remap would be necessary
only issue then is conflicting mappings ig but those can be figured out...
coarse lily
Heh I met Searge once.
ancient bolt
the patch remap code is still pretty messy but it seems to almost work https://github.com/DemonWav/paperweight/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/tasks/patchremap/RemapPatches.kt
coarse lily
Pretty cool stuff, demon
woven otter
is this hard forking talk
vernal moth
We can use that without hard forking theoretically ;)
And then have a nice compelling offer for devs: build against paper, we got nice mappings
They gon be dropping spigot support in no time ๐
woven otter
oh that's cool
vernal moth
whats gonna be interesting is paper forks, they will either have to do the jump with us, or remap paper source back to spigot mappings
which is all possible
in my mind, paperweight gets 3 modi, paper, paper fork, paper plugin
so that you can use its tools for everything
limpid comet
so, i assume there will be an extra burden when you hardfork, having to maintain bukkit and spigot apis as well
though i guess you already do a lot of that
so whats the plan after a hard fork?
minor badge
@vernal moth helo can i request review :>
vernal moth
so, i assume there will be an extra burden when you hardfork, having to maintain bukkit and spigot apis as well
@limpid comet there will for sure be an extra burden of having to do the minecraft update ourself, both impl and api, for code we never had to update before
but: I am confident we have the man power for that, and we have the benefit that md always had: we can track snapshots/prereleases/RCs
and: we don't need to worry about mapping changes so updates will be soooooo much easier
@minor badge if you do so on github I will see it ๐
got an hour to burn for stuff
limpid comet
true, that's cuz you're working on that mojang code mapping stuff right?
minor badge
https://github.com/Incendo/ban/pull/11 i wanted for this actually
since it abuses kyori stuff
vernal moth
yeah, for now we mapping spigot to SRG, since SRG has unique names for everything so stuff is 100% easier
but once remapping works, we can use whatever mappings
vernal moth
phase is apperently working on merging fabric param names into mojmap so that would be amazing
files changed 76, +684 โ469
ok proxi
minor badge
<3
vernal moth
I am not an expert on kyori stuff tho, lol
minor badge
i should document more stuff in that plugin tbh
twin lagoon
paper snapshot builds would be a big advantage over spigot, could certainly attract some people
limpid comet
yeah snapshot builds would be insane
what's md's justification for not releasing em
vernal moth
am not saying that that would be a thing michael, it could be and it would be 100% unsupported and unreliable, just when somebody (team or contributor) is bored enough to update
vernal moth
what's md's justification for not releasing em
@limpid comet not having to support idiots
also, md starts late in the dev process
twin lagoon
of course mini but an unsupported & unreliable build is better than having nothing
limpid comet
^
twin lagoon
it allows for discussion of new apis for that version too
limpid comet
i would love to play around with some stuff, i think you'd be fine as long as you just released the code but no builds
vernal moth
oh yeah that something I would love, develop new apis in the public
limpid comet
i think building the jar yourself is a big enough barrier of entry to prevent most people who just want muh snapshot builds
vernal moth
it also comes with the benefit that yall can play with snapshots code wise
limpid comet
exactly 
vernal moth
from my fabric experiments with the world high and the bundle, I can say that thats fun
but yeah, thats still all far away
you guys gotta keep pushing more devs and server admins to move
gotta have 20k more paper servers or smth
twin lagoon
hosts
void void
look into spigot discord
twin lagoon
and that
void void
people just shit on paper because "it only does few things"
vernal moth
wheres zed when you need him ๐
minor badge
if i hadn't known how to fork paper, i'd also use spigot for friends-only server cause we want the dupes enabled
twin lagoon
you just need like 3 - 4 of the largest hosts to default to paper
minor badge
dont care, i know how to handle the code :)
vernal moth
I dont think it would be that hard
twin lagoon
it's not
vernal moth
just need to do it properly
twin lagoon
mcprohosting, shockbyte, bisect hosting and there's probably one or two more
apexhosting
i guess ggservers
i know the CEO of apexhosting lurks in r/syscraft if i'm correct
or someone in their management
bisecthosting i don't know who the fuck manages that
mcph & shockbyte i could just send their CEOs a DM on discord 
vernal moth
well, it will be easy to compile a list of emails for representatives we can mail smth
well, there are undeniably benefits for hosts, aside from better performance for their users. our download api for example makes it easy to switch out builds.
minor badge
"Hey, I'd like to propose you switching to Paper as your default server software. This will not only lead to gains for us in market share, but would also lead to better performance off the bat for players, with plugins functioning better! Your customers would love it, you get more money, and we can continue to do wonderful things for your customers." or smth lol
vernal moth
I mean, could do this properly and develop a "host relations" communication channel
limpid comet
i think you lead with their benefit first, and your benefit second
vernal moth
"once you switched to paper, we would like to hear what changes to the software we could do that benefit your business"
limpid comet
thats incredible mini
vernal moth
since like, we do talk with server admins about their needs, but we need to realize hosts are our users too
again, exactly what @lavish nova (now I had to ping) is doing with his Open Collab project for geyser and nukkit and stuff
limpid comet
open collab?
vernal moth
seeing so many hosts offer geyser now for sure is not a coincidence
open collab?
@limpid comet its an initiative lead by zed/cube craft that handles backoffice stuff for geyser and cloudburst
with the goal of creating high quality open source stuff and getting it in the hands of everybody till world domination is reached or smth
@worn ember
HX421C14FBK4/32
32GB (8GB 1G x 64-Bit x 4 pcs.)
DDR4-2133 CL14 288-Pin DIMM
According to Google
twin lagoon
2133 
vernal moth
dude these are ancient
potent fossil
I thought that was a tongue in the background of the second to last pic mini
I was like wtf
vernal moth
yeah 5 years old
this dude just followed me
I think hes suggesting ppl to use fabric to run big servers?
Twitter
love the deleted first tweet
twin lagoon
he's in here
limpid comet
is there a stupid reason to do that
there has to be but i don't know enough about the fabric server to know
don't they allow vanilla clients now?
twin lagoon
it has no plugin support
vernal moth
@void void I would love to read your first tweet ๐
twin lagoon
it can't be compared to paper
limpid comet
sure but if you were developing something from the ground up
void void
Lol
twin lagoon
there's this one server actually that runs snapshots & uses fabric
it runs like garbage lmao
at like 30 - 40 players
void void
"Snapshot"
vernal moth
oh and I read wrong, I said big server when the tweet said 1-10 ppl
lmao
am so dum
for a friends server I 100% agree
void void
Yeah
It's pretty much vanilla and up to 10 people
Michael, there is no mods for snapshots
twin lagoon
of course there are
void void
Not the optimisation ones
vernal moth
not all mods get updated so fast, especially ^
minor badge
but they can be if someone just puts their time into it
void void
True
vernal moth
the time every week that is
twin lagoon
yeah the server i mentioned has their own fabric mods too
vernal moth
because snapshots break weekly right now
void void
Any of you heard of tic-tacs mod?
void void
Ewww Forge
vernal moth
yeah I saw that, I have my own version of that
void void
Weird how easy it was
vernal moth
for 512 you just need one or two mixins changing 2 methods each
or smth
mojang did all the work for us
void void
Guess Mojang is expanding the world height after all
vernal moth
who cares, let it die ๐
void void
Lol
twin lagoon
PS 
vernal moth
I can tell you, from playing on a 2k amplified world, increasing the world hight fucks with your fps
fucking slide show ๐
twin lagoon
but did you try with leaflightโข๏ธ
twin lagoon
mini send your mod ๐ฅบ
vernal moth
twin lagoon
void void
Fabric cubic chunks mod when
vernal moth
ill give you 2048
void void
4096
twin lagoon
ultimate minecraft stresstest
vernal moth
god knows wtf its on about
limpid comet
what a ball buster
vernal moth
oh you need to run with mojmap I guess
limpid comet
tetris effect connected is only available on ms store
minor badge
you sent him dev (yarn), he needs remapped (intermediary)
vernal moth
or I need to compile to intermed or smth
minor badge
just ./gradlew remapJar and send the non-dev one
twin lagoon
proxi awa
vernal moth
minor badge
michael awa
vernal moth
proxi comes to save the day
vernal moth
yeaahhhh
limpid comet
oh nvm im stupid
twin lagoon
[12:01:28] [Server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 4705ms or 94 ticks behind
mfw built-in server already lagging
damn why even use amplified when you can just raise the height
vernal moth
spawn in an applifiled world and /locatebiome ice spikes or whatever its called
twin lagoon
performanace is pretty good here until you generate /load a new chunk
vernal moth
yeah I would like to believe it would be better on paper
if we get paperweight to work on mojmap, i will totally try to see if I can apply it to a snapshot jar
that could be so fun
leaden quiver
how to disable the whole redstone mechanism in the server?
vernal moth
what gpu do you have?
twin lagoon
if you stand still until everything is loaded it's a solid 80
vernal moth
@minor badge , just because the repo is gone, doesnt mean the PR is unmergeable, github copied the branch, I think you can modify the PR, and at worst, you can create a new branch (https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3801)
but: I agree with closing it, its a big change
vernal moth
well its possible to recreated such PRs
minor badge
that's true
vernal moth
but yeah I don't think its something we can do
visual egret
maths is fun
pseudo pilot
ikr
visual egret
ouch
visual egret
idk what that is im still 13 lol
untold copper
oof
visual egret
plane
visual egret
that picture you sent makes about 3% sense to me
untold copper
^
mossy vessel
I mean, at least someone bothered shifting instructions what to do
mossy vessel
There will be a time when someone just shoves up a formula up your arse and you can figure out yourself what to do
Fun during that during exams
pseudo pilot
on the last test we had 1 question and 2 hours to complete it
visual egret
this hw i got inst that bad, its just that i have 134 questions
untold copper
f
visual egret
untold copper
Im not a big fan of maths
mossy vessel
Until you figured your prof is a weirdo and you fail on purpose bc they sux
untold copper
oh that ez -.-
visual egret
its easy
pseudo pilot
"4 snails are located at the corner of a table and each snail moves towards the snail to the right. describe a single snail's motion"
untold copper
s l o w
untold copper
fast as fkn't
pseudo pilot
well
i ended up with a differential equation that couldn't be solved in cartesian coordinates
so i switched it to the complex plane and solved it there
visual egret
untold copper
blurred much
pseudo pilot
then i took the real values from that complex plane and got a function in cartesian coordinates
and i ended up with an equation that looked like a fibionianci sequence
when graphed
i think i used up 5 sheets of paper on that single problem
mossy vessel
Why do you torture yourself for something you will never need in your life lmao
mossy vessel
Calculators exist for a reason lol
visual egret
wow
low canyon
do you know what software hermitcraft uses?
untold copper
Calculators exist for a reason lol
Tell that to the education system ๐
low canyon
lol
untold copper
@low canyon vanilla jar
low canyon
k
untold copper
yes
mossy vessel
Over here nobody blames you for using WA for stuff
visual egret
they have to be running
mossy vessel
lol
untold copper
they aren't sadly
visual egret
yeah but you can run those on paper too
low canyon
dont
visual egret
suicide = bad
pseudo pilot
all the math im learning rn
im gonna apply it to real world situations and engineering
mossy vessel
hf
untold copper
idk half the words
visual egret
so this is wrong
sturdy shale
What is paper Minecraft
mossy vessel
๐๏ธ
olive marlin
"4 snails are located at the corner of a table and each snail moves towards the snail to the right. describe a single snail's motion"
@pseudo pilot We had the same task, just with spiders on the square ceiling. Did yours also have constraint on the table shape? Otherwise good luck solving it generically lol
pseudo pilot
lol the table was a square
worn ember
@sturdy shale its like spigot but better
olive marlin
It's paper-light version of Vanilla with plugin support.
worn ember
@visual egret one is more accurate than the other
visual egret
is it though?
worn ember
no but yes
i remember having to do this in my physics classes to show the accuracy you measured at
wide chasm
With 0.07 it could be anywhere between 0.065 and 0.74, whereas with 0.070, it's between 0.0695 and 0.0704.
olive marlin
Also, it tells you that the number you put in should be accurate to 2 significant figures.
Which relates to what Stef said.
visual egret
thanks
worn ember
good
minor badge
whats the #, mini/ded?
vernal moth
2347 proxi
worn ember
2347
minor badge
thank
worn ember
oof
cedar spade
Hi spamming
worn ember
md when u gonna accept my pr tho
worn ember
tf you mean probably :/ it works
cedar spade
(or I might redo it with a bunch more events idk)
minor badge
@cedar spade ur ma,,,
cedar spade
can't remember off the top of my head but there were a couple other places I was thinking about adding TPA request events
@minor badge helo
visual egret
i got an email from letsencrypt that my cert is expiring on 04 Dec 20 15:42 but certbot says expires on 2021-02-12
๐ค
cedar spade
Probably an old cert
untold copper
seeing you guys talk makes me feel like ik nothing ๐ฆ ๐
visual egret
does it?
untold copper
yes xD
visual egret
well i dont know much either lol
vernal moth
?warn @toxic token advertising
leaden oxideBOT
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vernal moth
Is that a warn or a ban? Lmao
limpid comet
its a whatever mini is feelin today
visual egret
lol
limpid comet
mod =/= moderator til
fossil cedar
has anybody upgraded to macos big sur ?
am i the only person on the planet that have absolutely no sound in any mc version ?
sharp sentinel
Iโve been running it since first beta, no problems personally
lavish nova
i have a ping am i in drama
visual egret
void void
I lost so many players cause stuff like this happened bruh
lavish nova
ah right yeah
not just for Bedrock stuff!
We are talking with some larger hosts, marketplace partners and servers about funding
and a variety of Java and Bedrock focussed projects
but its very ambitious and im struggling to hire someone to help me
so if anyone is interested in open source governance / commercial relations
lavish nova
i have a notion doc
I'm looking for a full time project lead or can split it into around three part time roles i think
This Notion doc focus is on Bedrock marketplace partners but it shows the concept and ideas
vernal moth
We were just speaking about talking with hosts about paper
And I brought you up since looking at geyser, you guys clearly are doing great
lavish nova
yeah, although thats mainly through other relationships. Helen did a lot of amplification for us since we set up a server for them
but yeah im talking to quite a few hosts atm
vernal moth
I think for us it's not only interesting to talk to hosts to make them use paper (and also actually update the jars), but also hear back from them, because I am sure paper can help their buisnesses too
Also, you guys need to put that notion on a website, I was searching for it recently
sharp sentinel
I made a good post to send hosts to shame them into fixing things a little while back ๐
vernal moth
Yeah I know that one
visual egret
dont use a minecraft server host, just use a vm host
sharp sentinel
All kinds of hosting have their place
visual egret
thats the best answer tbh
sharp sentinel
Sure, using a VPS or dedicated server is good if youโre capable of managing all of it. Some newer server admins likely arenโt, so shared hosting actually makes sense for them.
vernal moth
For many many ppl using a minecraft host is just what they need
waxen panther
now that is hot
waxen panther
๐ crepe cakes
potent fossil
:o
untold copper
cakes uwu
merry talon
mfw the oculus link cable costs just as much as buying a new wifi 6 router and just doing it wirelessly
cosmic raft
lol
vernal moth
ppl online said they got away with using an active extension cable
visual egret
or you just use a usb C cable...
that data is compressed, you know?
you dont need fiber
mighty storm
anyone have that link that showed the history of github issues as like semicircles
cant remember, was linked here a few weeks ago
limber knotBOT
wat
waxen panther
pickles ๐ค
serene ether
o
spiral robin
Hi
serene ether
no
woven otter
anything new?
serene ether
ROAST DUCK
merry talon
tbh
serene ether
wut
waxen panther
gimme da minimessage rewrite juice 
merry talon
I almost bought it just because a fiber optic cable would be cool
But I got some usb 3.1 one instead
I'm in my window to buy a valve index right now but I looked at my bank account and got the quest 2 instead
vernal moth
anything new?
@woven otter no regex, custom tokens, toggelable inbuild tokens
waxen panther
go zoom ?
woven otter
I see. sounds good
merry talon
Because its standalone
cosmic raft
Standalone?
merry talon
You don't need a PC
cosmic raft
ah
cunning raft
merry talon
you do with the rift S too
void void
anyone know how to create there own ban api
merry talon
or will
merry talon
Don't think so
but like
the quest 2 is just a monstrous value
so that's not stopping me
@cosmic raft i wanted standalone so i can blow my grandparents' mind with it
lol
cosmic raft
hahaha
void void
hey kshike
slim nymph
Sigh having to combat misinformation https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/getting-by-with-less-ram-usage.468996/#post-3998124
Let's see how some people react for me calling out md5 lol
quasi valley
man gotta love forum signatures, when your signature is larger than your actual text and it all just looks like the main post
wide chasm
That's why I disabled signatures
vernal moth
md never liked your flags aikar, lol
visual egret
aikar is offended by this โน๏ธ
mossy vessel
Less offended, more correcting
worthy geode
md is kinda strange tbh, idk. I think he is a bit pissed that Paper is better than Spigot, lul
slim nymph
MD doesn't like anything associated with me it seems
dapper nacelle
I could imagine him not like the idea of a successful fork that gets all the credit
visual egret
yeah, i could tell that from your reddit comments lol
slim nymph
Whatever not wanting to make drama out of it, hence me not responding to him directly
dapper nacelle
your philosophies about what spigot should be don't go together
dapper nacelle
yes he no like
void void
if so that needs to be resolved
dapper nacelle
I mean, in an ideal world you would be able to have a mature conversation with MD about how and what should be implemented in what way
void void
well rip
meager tusk
@twin lagoon
worn ember
last time i checked aikars opinions are wrong
dapper nacelle
I want someone to collaborate with me on my project really badly but anyone I have met has such a different way of thinking that it'd be impossible
minor badge
@meager tusk ๐
dapper nacelle
but my code runs
void void
an opinion is neither wrong or right ๐
worn ember
wrong
void void
no u
dapper nacelle
its just two separate ways of thinking that work on their own but dont go together
void void
thats why people would have opinions so that people dont start vigorously arguing about something