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untold copper
olive marlin
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I've been looking at backup solutions like every month now - all of them suck.

limber knotBOT
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because it can't really be slow... it's using the same logic rsync/scp (depending on config) is using...

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which is pretty much the fastest you are going to get

upper flicker
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I've just settled on duplicity for stuff, which just manages rsync to do it for you

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it's not perfect but its the best thing Ive found

olive marlin
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I recently found out duplicity likes making corrupted incremental backups.

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And once it makes one corrupted one - all later incremental backups are useless.

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Despite running verify which says "everything is fine".

upper flicker
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I havent experience that, though I did notice it was making a full backup all over again yesterday on one of my boxes

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when I looked at it though there was no corruption, it was just doing it in case

olive marlin
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I have setup it to make full backup once a month.

upper flicker
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maybe that's why it does that

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I dont manage it super strictly other than making sure it restores okay

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as long as that works, whatever

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certainly plenty of space in the ecosystem for something better though, no denying that

olive marlin
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And backup works, until it corrupts one of the incrementals.

untold copper
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how do i make this cname record thing

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wont lemme click

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reEE

twin lagoon
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you don't

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read the guide

upper flicker
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thats not how you make a cname record

twin lagoon
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you're clicking things you shouldn't be remotely near

upper flicker
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you add a cname the same way you add any other record

twin lagoon
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tcpshield has a very clear guide on what to do

upper flicker
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you just flip the type

untold copper
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"Page not found"

upper flicker
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at least in CF

untold copper
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on tcpsheilf

olive marlin
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I'm looking forward to knoxite, lots of cool features. But it's very immature rn - doesn't have locks on repo yet, and I found out OOM bug.

twin lagoon
finite wave
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Hmm?

olive marlin
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That being said, maybe when restic finally merges the compression and prune PRs, it might be good enough.

minor badge
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@twin lagoon awa,,,,

twin lagoon
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awa

upper flicker
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oof I'll let you do the testing on that then ๐Ÿ˜…

twin lagoon
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hm

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no idea why it's not detecting some clients

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strange

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ok fuck urbackup going to try backuppc

upper flicker
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write your own scripts to do backups

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what could go wrong

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test in prod

twin lagoon
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my backup script rm -rf'ed / once

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that was fun

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in production too

upper flicker
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wat

twin lagoon
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that's not a joke either

upper flicker
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what kind of backups are you doing michael

twin lagoon
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idk how it happenedi think something messed up when copy pasting the script onto the server

finite wave
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The rm -rf ones

twin lagoon
waxen panther
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hello z seven five zero

upper flicker
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y hello dere brocc

waxen panther
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why is u being a farmer

upper flicker
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wat

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can you farm tacos or something now?

waxen panther
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i mean

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you can farm the stuff to make tacos

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but i dont think we quite have taco trees yet

upper flicker
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๐Ÿ˜ 

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we'll get there one day

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science is working on it

finite wave
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I mean

waxen panther
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is it?

finite wave
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We are getting there.

upper flicker
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turning children into burritos is not taco farming

waxen panther
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ok jan

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that'

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that's not an excuse to eat babies

twin lagoon
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the included apache config wouldn't even work

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Alias /backuppc /usr/share/backuppc/cgi-bin/

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that directory just does not exist good start

upper flicker
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> apache config for a backup service

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hard pass

twin lagoon
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it has a webui and no i don't plan on using apache

upper flicker
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getting awful vibes already

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no no no

waxen panther
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apache monkas

upper flicker
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no webuis

twin lagoon
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bro it's written in PERL

upper flicker
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oh god

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hard pass

olive marlin
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I used BackupPC at work, didn't really like it.

twin lagoon
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i am actually fucking done with this shit already

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prof can you just write a fucking non-r'd backup system

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p e p e g a

olive marlin
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I got to the point of sort of understanding it, but we still had issues with it.

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I need to figure out first why I can't control damn console.

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I think whole BM is borked.

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Reports it has no RAID controllers, but then gets stuck during boot because of RAID controller.

twin lagoon
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reeeeeeeeeeeeee

untold copper
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michael triggered better leave

olive marlin
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I kinda wanted to contribute to some backup project.

upper flicker
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michael is always triggered about something

twin lagoon
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ur mum

olive marlin
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But they are most in Perl and Go.

worn ember
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its just a dutch thing

upper flicker
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golang could be handy to know

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if you dont know perl I wouldnt bother learning it until it comes up

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sorry perl fanboys

olive marlin
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I'm having hard relationship with GoLang. I prefer Rust many times more.

slim nymph
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@finite wave I dont see burritos, better lettuce wrap that baby

olive marlin
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I know Perl basic, don't want to touch it again unless I'll have to.

finite wave
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Hot

upper flicker
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I would generally agree though, I too prefer rust

waxen panther
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yeah rust is great

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great update yesterday

upper flicker
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but rust is probably not going to take over the same space golang is in

waxen panther
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new wipe should be good

olive marlin
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All backup projects in Rust that I found are abandoned.

twin lagoon
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brocc shut the FUCK up

olive marlin
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Yeah, GoLang is something else.

waxen panther
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no you CANT make me stop talking about RUST the GAME

olive marlin
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And kubernetes is hype now.

upper flicker
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Im going to move michael and brocc to a separate channel so they can just fight it out

waxen panther
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neij

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๐Ÿ˜ก

worn ember
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1v1 rust

waxen panther
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yes

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hope ur ak spray is warmed up

worn ember
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im a professional sprayer

olive marlin
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I want to better learn Go at some point. But have way too many projects for a year ahead lol

viral hornet
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new wipe should be good
@waxen panther ๐Ÿฅบ

waxen panther
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you can have taxis now

upper flicker
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candy corn eyes

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whoever chose the twitter emojis for discord is dumb

twin lagoon
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ngl no idea what to do

viral hornet
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Noo

waxen panther
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i lub twitter emotes

twin lagoon
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HDDs are definitely part of the problem but i don't know where you fuck you want to get affordable 6TB storage in SSDs

upper flicker
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what'd you to do to your HDDs?

twin lagoon
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z the problem is that rsnapshot rm -rf's the oldest backup once you've filled up all intervals

limber knotBOT
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just get 12 1TB SSDs? shouldn't cost more than ~1k?

twin lagoon
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it takes a g e s

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because of the amount of flatfile storage files that get created by any minecraft plugin every or region files

upper flicker
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pretty sure I can blow away 1TB of files on my backup server right now in a fairly reasonable amount of time

limber knotBOT
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it would only delete files that changed though?

twin lagoon
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i'd think so too phoenix but it's s l o w

waxen panther
limber knotBOT
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rm -r is slow for different reasons though

twin lagoon
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also the definition of reasonable might be different

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i'd need it to be done rm -rfing within 20 minutes ideally

limber knotBOT
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(linux implementation reasons)

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I wrote my own perl script to recursively delete without the speed issues that linux rm has lol

twin lagoon
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honestly this might be the only exception to self-hosting isn't worth it

limber knotBOT
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(after crashing my dedicated server with an rm -r command)

twin lagoon
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well, one of the few exceptions

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there's no way any host will give me a reasonable price on storage servers with SSDs only, per month

upper flicker
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no

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and moving your own server to entirely SSDs is going to be expensive anyway

twin lagoon
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eh

upper flicker
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so you either do that and pay the upfront costs

twin lagoon
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1tb ssds are pretty cheap ngl

upper flicker
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1tb ssds?

twin lagoon
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yes

upper flicker
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tf are you going to do with those on a backup server

twin lagoon
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that's just an example, 1tb is cheap, higher capabity likely isn't going to be too far off

upper flicker
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7.6 TB for $899

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per

slim nymph
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SSD would be more durable for backup than HDD wouldnt it?

twin lagoon
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they would

limber knotBOT
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how do I figure out which language a dll file is in? just test if it decompiles with c++/c#? xD

twin lagoon
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cheapest, although consumer-grade this isn't critical data, TLC nand SSD is 200 eur for 2TB

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1000 EUR upfront is not bad at all

upper flicker
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I would need to replace that in like a year and a half

olive marlin
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And add collocation to that?

upper flicker
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or get three

twin lagoon
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that is true

upper flicker
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collocation is usually fairly reasonable though

twin lagoon
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@olive marlin colocation isn't too expensive, i think i'd probably be out $60/mo & 1400 upfront

upper flicker
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I guess it depends on location

twin lagoon
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it does

untold copper
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...oooook?

twin lagoon
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you didn't configure tcpshield properly

upper flicker
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it costs us a lot more to collocate some of our stuff underground in an abandoned mine than it does to throw them in a random DC

twin lagoon
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make sure you have created an account & set tcpshield up on the panel

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and you have added the plugin

untold copper
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I have

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done all

twin lagoon
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make sure you're not proxying the record either

untold copper
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nub

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language

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pls

twin lagoon
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also the idea of an ssd storage server isn't too unrealistic, upfront cost would likely still be under monthly pricing at a host

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but of course i'd ideally want to just fix this and get it properly running on hdds

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rsnapshot is great but i don't know what to do about the slow as fuck rm -rf'ing

upper flicker
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we use SSDs up front to do quicker data offloading to the backup server but all the actual archival is still spinners

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I still cant scale SSDs as cost effectively beyond that up front cache

olive marlin
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Run it separately after taking backup? Idk rsnapshot well.

limber knotBOT
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ok seems like IDA does the job. rip no debug info though :S

twin lagoon
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If enabled, rsnapshot will move the oldest directory for each interval

to [interval_name].delete, then it will remove the lockfile and delete

that directory just before it exits. The default is 0 (off).

use_lazy_deletes 1

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there's only this

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this would solve my issue

untold copper
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this is mah config

twin lagoon
untold copper
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this is da error

twin lagoon
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your dns hasn't resolved yet

untold copper
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so i wait?

twin lagoon
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yes

untold copper
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like it will take 2 days right?

twin lagoon
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you never set your nameservers actually

untold copper
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i didn't touch cos i didn't know if i should be

twin lagoon
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of course you should

untold copper
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what do I set em to

twin lagoon
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the ones cloudflare provides you

untold copper
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208.91.197.91

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this one?

twin lagoon
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no

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the nameservers cloudflare provides you

untold copper
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this?

twin lagoon
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the ones at the bottom yes

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to use cloudflare change your nameservers

untold copper
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oh

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ooooooooOh

twin lagoon
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yes so for the fourth time read

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might end up using this

untold copper
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I can put any?

twin lagoon
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no

untold copper
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or do I put both

twin lagoon
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you put both in

untold copper
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I'll set name server 1 and 2 to these 2 respectively

olive marlin
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Where is set -euo pipefail reeeee

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And quote paths!

worn ember
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ip exposed

untold copper
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do I leave the 2 and 4 to default or wat

twin lagoon
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what

untold copper
twin lagoon
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you remove them

untold copper
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1 and 2*

twin lagoon
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what no

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wait can you screenshot the whole page

waxen panther
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bruh

olive marlin
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If you'll run shellcheck on that script, I'm sure I'll turn red.

untold copper
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ok cool

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already done brUh

twin lagoon
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l u l

untold copper
twin lagoon
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the amount of shellcheck shit that pops up

untold copper
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looks like this now

twin lagoon
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it's mostly double quoting though

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oh yes that is good update nameservers snipa

untold copper
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already done

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now, we wait

flat gulch
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AMD Ryzen 9 3900 or Xeon e3-1275v6

olive marlin
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But at first glance I don't see bigger issues. I'd change some stuff, like add set -euo pipefail, quote shit, not exit with 0 on errors, get rid of echo...

flat gulch
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for mc

twin lagoon
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3900

untold copper
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3900

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and just last thing is this cloudflare thing fne?

olive marlin
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But it's mostly fine - doesn't have to be very perfomant since it'll not be hot code.

twin lagoon
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epic

untold copper
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gr8

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๐Ÿ’ฆ

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lets hope this works xD

olive marlin
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Note - that's a quick look on my phone lol

untold copper
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OH DAMN IT ALREADY WORKS

twin lagoon
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can't someone just make rsnapshot more performant

untold copper
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YAY

twin lagoon
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and rewrite it in not-perl

untold copper
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Thanks Michael for helping meeee :333

flat gulch
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Are the two CPUs similar in performance? Like, is it worth upgrading to it (from Xeon) or not?

twin lagoon
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the 3900 is a massive upgrade

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far from similar

untold copper
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userbenchmark

twin lagoon
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don't use userbenchmark

olive marlin
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can't someone just make rsnapshot more performant
@twin lagoon want to write a backup tool in Rust?

twin lagoon
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@olive marlin want to write a backup tool in Rust ๐Ÿฅบ

waxen panther
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this is wholesome

twin lagoon
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i'll buy you an mx master 3 ๐Ÿฅบ

flat gulch
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Cool, thanks for the help y'all ๐Ÿ‘

olive marlin
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I bought it already though.

twin lagoon
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well fuck

waxen panther
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yknow whats better than a mx master 3?

mental meadow
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Michael I'll write you a backup tool in bash ๐Ÿฅบ

waxen panther
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two mx master 3's

twin lagoon
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i have nightmares from bash

ashen cliff
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Same.

upper flicker
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bash is good fun

twin lagoon
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i like using bash actually

untold copper
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hm

twin lagoon
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but it's so messy

olive marlin
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Bash is one of the best languages.

untold copper
olive marlin
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If you aren't using ancient bash.

twin lagoon
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because you never created play.

upper flicker
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usually I get something working really well in bash then I want to take it just one step further and I decide it should no longer be in bash

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that's the best part of using bash

ashen cliff
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Modifying Mellanox installed scripts broke me.

olive marlin
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Then it gets hacky.

mental meadow
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if you have "if fi" then the language is bad

untold copper
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just did

upper flicker
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I think you meant "case esac"

waxen panther
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gaming gnimag

olive marlin
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I love how bash has if fi, case esac and do done xD

mental meadow
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aurora arorua

olive marlin
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Love consistency

waxen panther
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z750 057z

twin lagoon
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bloodstone is it done yet

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๐Ÿฅบ

waxen panther
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L

olive marlin
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Michelle I'm at work still :/

mental meadow
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i want to have a second name again, any ideas

twin lagoon
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hurry x

upper flicker
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frank

waxen panther
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obama

twin lagoon
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gilbert

mental meadow
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no

waxen panther
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sakurajima

twin lagoon
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natasha

mental meadow
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thats hot brocc

waxen panther
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sakurajima do be da hottest last name

mental meadow
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not a last name

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second first name

twin lagoon
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auwowa

waxen panther
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hmmm

worn ember
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how do you even remember your own name

olive marlin
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Apparently at 6am today my mx master was handled for delivery...

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That was 11 hours ago.

untold copper
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why u like mx master so mucho

waxen panther
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they're epic

mental meadow
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its a sexy mouse

untold copper
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ok sool

upper flicker
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I have the older mx master, which replaced the older mx master I had before

untold copper
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its a bit large for my hand

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thats what she said

waxen panther
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i have a mx 2s for my laptop

upper flicker
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whoever logitech is getting their switches from, they dont seem to last more than a couple years

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yet here I am, still buying them

olive marlin
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I liked mx master because it's big enough for my hand.

mental meadow
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idk I think thats the issue with most mouses tbh

untold copper
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@upper flicker YES I AGREEEE

upper flicker
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master is nice and big and comfy yes

untold copper
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I had a logitech g300s, broke after 2 years

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clicks just wont register

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:c

upper flicker
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when the switches on this one go, Ill probably keep being dumb and buy whatever the newest mx master is

untold copper
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i loved that mouse

twin lagoon
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@minor badge x

waxen panther
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both my mice are logitech mice PepeLoved

mental meadow
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@twin lagoon :3

olive marlin
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I'll probably just resolder new switches if they'll die.

untold copper
twin lagoon
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information

waxen panther
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lol

untold copper
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ok why is it there *

potent fossil
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hover it...

twin lagoon
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hover over it

slim nymph
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to give you information

waxen panther
potent fossil
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next question is "what is cname flattening"

untold copper
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whats cname flattening eeee

potent fossil
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called it.

upper flicker
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move your mouse on it, then back off of it, 4 times, then left click it twice, and finally drag it to your desktop to get a coupon for CF premium

slim nymph
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.g cname flattening

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-cname-flattening-rfc-compliant-cnames-at-a-domains-root/ -- Introducing CNAME Flattening: RFC-Compliant CNAMEs at a ...: "Apr 3, 2014 ... What happens is that, if there's a CNAME at the root, rather than returning that record directly we recurse through the CNAME chain..."

The Cloudflare Blog

This post is about a new feature we've been quietly rolling out over the last few months. Last week we began enabling it for everyone by default.

potent fossil
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omg google

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pure magicz

waxen panther
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๐Ÿ˜ณ i missed a fredrik knudsen video

mental meadow
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we should make korobi generate a lmgtfy link

finite wave
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.lmgtfy hey

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://is.gd/0HAIJi

mental meadow
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niuuce

twin lagoon
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lmgtfy is dumb nowadays

untold copper
twin lagoon
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own search engine etc

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completely ruins the point

potent fossil
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how about you read the frik frakking article

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it only applies on when there is a cname as the root

twin lagoon
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reeeeeeeeee life is so hard

untold copper
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o

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ohk

mental meadow
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reading is hard

potent fossil
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no, its not that its hard

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it's that he didnt even fucking bother

waxen panther
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the internet was a mistake

potent fossil
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he did not fucking click the link at all

twin lagoon
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you're a mistake

mental meadow
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i was a miustake

waxen panther
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oh

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okay michael

mental meadow
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๐Ÿƒ

finite wave
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There is a lot of mistakes out there.

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Just ask @woven otter

untold copper
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many big words

worn ember
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lmdtdfy wen

woven otter
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There is a lot of mistakes out there.
yes @finite wave is one, for example

ashen cliff
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Very well.

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Looks kind of like our Lan Party traffic graph...

woven otter
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that looks interesting

worn ember
olive marlin
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Run average or sum on them (depends what you want). Depends on what your data source is etc.

worn ember
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what are you trying to achieve?

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you can do that in the sql query

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just sum(column)

finite wave
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sql ๐Ÿคฎ

worn ember
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does that matter? its still sql right?

minor badge
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@twin lagoon wat

twin lagoon
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proxi ๐Ÿฅบ

worn ember
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select MIN(LatestModifDate) as time, ImportFileID, AVG(Settlement_Price) Electricity
from Datastore
where ProductID=6
group by ImportFileID
order by time

this is how i do it for one of my graphs, the basic functions should still work tho.

mighty storm
worn ember
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unwatch zoop

upper flicker
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unwatches darkeye

worn ember
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excuse me

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thats rude

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ur not even following me on gh

mighty storm
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that implies z was watching you

finite wave
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Z is always watching us

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Hey demon ๐Ÿ‘‹

worn ember
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is there any reason to make a constructor arg final if ur just assigning it to a field?

upper flicker
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you really like the final keyword

waxen panther
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yes

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all my homies love the final keyword

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its hot

finite wave
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Who was the guy who said final made your code faster?

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Ivan?

upper flicker
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there are places that do actually require it everywhere things are final

worn ember
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am looking at clip code, so just wondering

upper flicker
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they're dumb

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but they exist

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plenty of people do it just because they use final all over, its a habit

finite wave
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val ๐Ÿ˜

worn ember
finite wave
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This is clealy scala go eat a turd.

mighty storm
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it;s the final keyword ddoododo

upper flicker
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> posting scala in here

worn ember
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how will i see the signs then

mighty storm
finite wave
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nty

upper flicker
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yeah mini is working on fixing that issue right now

worn ember
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Ore not

finite wave
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i had some fun in it and such, but i prefer kotlin over scala

worn ember
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isnt gradle in scala?

mighty storm
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oh scala looks like a mess

finite wave
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Sort of like a pot of random stuff.

mighty storm
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it's in Groovy/Java and a bit of Kotlin

worn ember
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oh right it was groovy

waxen panther
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scala monkas

mighty storm
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1.8k issues

worn ember
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close all

mighty storm
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what was that site that showed the circles for issues

worn ember
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circlej- yeah not gonna finish that

brazen barn
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Wanting to implement some anti cheat/hack plugins and I'm seeing that Advanced Anti Cheat (AAC) and NoCheatPlus are both out of date.

Do they still technically work even without explicitly stated compatibility with 1.16?

finite wave
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Maybe

brazen barn
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solid answer. Very useful.

finite wave
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What do you expect?

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Try asking their devs

brazen barn
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Someone with direct experience to chime in?

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Considering that this is a community of server administrators

limber knotBOT
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Updated-NoCheatPlus works just fine

brazen barn
olive marlin
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Yes, it even says 1.16.4

limber knotBOT
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(after I complained ๐Ÿ‘€ )

twin lagoon
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@olive marlin i asked a friend of mine who uses ZFS

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apparently i can fix the rsnapshot problem by just making the last thing interval a dataset & remove it instantly using zfs

brazen barn
#

I'm really not seeing a reason to update to 1.16.4 though. It looks pretty inconsequential?

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No reason /not/ to update but that's not the point

olive marlin
#

@twin lagoon MX master 3 sucks. It doesn't have place to store the dongle and I need to pick up the mouse to switch between computers :/

twin lagoon
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wtf

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it doesn't suck

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er, there is software from logitech to do the last thing

olive marlin
twin lagoon
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doesn't look that much bigger

limber knotBOT
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gud morning gamers, why is 1.16.4 now a thing

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no I don't read anything btw

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because Microsoft ๐Ÿ‘€

olive marlin
#

It's significantly higher and my hand no longer is stuck in air.

waxen panther
#

robo <3

limber knotBOT
#

you think MS does anything with java MC other than that MSA thing

brazen barn
waxen panther
#

it was mainly a bug fix lol

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doesn't matter if it was meh

void void
#

michael enjoying sanoid already?

limber knotBOT
#

MSA conversion option wen

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they will apparently unlock that in waves

brazen barn
#

4 incredibly miniscule bugs warranted a version change?

limber knotBOT
#

and it will most likely be in the launcher, not in a Minecraft version

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I mean, two were server crashes lol

waxen panther
#

what did you want them to do

limber knotBOT
#

lul blm splashscreens, ah yes, activism is everywhere

waxen panther
#

re release 1.16.3? PepeGA

brazen barn
#

I'd have just held it tbh

limber knotBOT
#

but they also did the net neutrality stuff too so I guess I shouldn't be surprised in the slightest

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why? no reason to hold a stable update lol

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also TIL that they can replace assets without releasing a game update

upper flicker
#

yes

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they like to do that for special stuff

waxen panther
#

is that what they do for the christmas chests

upper flicker
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christmas chests may be there year round

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they predate the new system

waxen panther
#

ah

upper flicker
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no reason they couldnt do it that way if they wanted

limber knotBOT
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pretty sure that's hard coded

upper flicker
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but I dont think they do

limber knotBOT
#

but I think they used the new system for the villager sound april fools

upper flicker
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also how they update the splash texts for covid and holidays and blah blah

void void
#

yeah chests are hardcoded

limber knotBOT
#

how many hdd's have you encountered that just over time get slower and slower but you never see any SMART or chkdsk errors

minor badge
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@brazen barn they changed some protocol which therefore requires a protocol version bump

limber knotBOT
#

I thought they didn't though?

minor badge
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not to mention a lot of internal changes

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they changed a little bit; i don't remember what exactly (@ kneny)

limber knotBOT
#

wasn't that the whole reason why they are doing the new protocol version thing for snapshots?

waxen panther
#

@quasi valley aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

minor badge
#

nope

limber knotBOT
#

ah, a change in the book packet. interesting

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I wonder why they changed that lol

quasi valley
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something something desync

waxen panther
#

something something kenny cute something something smolHands

upper flicker
#

please dont harass kenny

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he doesnt like you

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respect that and leave him be

twin lagoon
#

please do harass kenny

upper flicker
#

not surprising, not many people like broccoli

waxen panther
#

wwwwwwwwwwwwtfffffff

upper flicker
#

needs salt to be tolerated

waxen panther
#

discord is mean today

worn ember
#

pink curse

waxen panther
#

no ๐Ÿคš

brazen barn
#

Eew. Just updated to 1.16.4 and in creative, when you have a status effect, it shifts your entire creative menu to the right.

limber knotBOT
#

thought it always did that

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survival too iirc

brazen barn
#

It's not happening in survival right now

limber knotBOT
#

tho I always play with auto gui sizing so I get the largest GUI possible

brazen barn
#

ew

upper flicker
#

he also uses the windows store

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he's a weird dude

brazen barn
#

I'll agree to that

limber knotBOT
#

the definition of weird in that I'm better than the norm c:

quasi valley
#

ah yes

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self supremacy

peak dirge
#

people use the Windows Store? thonk

quasi valley
#

not normal people, only 90 year olds

peak dirge
upper flicker
#

it has some nice stuff in there that's just buried in garbage

limber knotBOT
#

90 year olds

cunning raft
#

MS Terminal is there

upper flicker
#

it does sandbox some stuff too

limber knotBOT
#

agism

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sandbox and ez uninstall

brazen barn
#

people use Windows? thonk

limber knotBOT
#

share contracts

upper flicker
#

lots of people only use itunes through the win store because it keeps that shit contained

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then again idk why youd use itunes

brazen barn
#

don't iPhone users have to use iTunes?

upper flicker
#

no

cunning raft
#

on windows yes

brazen barn
#

To get things to and from their phone/computer?

upper flicker
#

not for many years now

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I dont know anyone who uses itunes

cunning raft
#

to update firmware or get drivers you need to use itunes i thought?

upper flicker
#

no

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all of that is OTA on the device for years now

cunning raft
#

well yeah

upper flicker
#

if you jailbreak or something, or you fuck it up and want to restore a vanilla image, then yes

waxen panther
#

itunes doesn't exist on macos anymore =)

cunning raft
#

but to manually do it

upper flicker
#

but most people dont ever need that

brazen barn
#

and if you don't have a strong mobile data connection? Are you just screwed?

upper flicker
#

itunes still very much exists on macos

cunning raft
#

they phased it out

waxen panther
#

not really

upper flicker
#

they just moved the frameworks around

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yes really

cunning raft
#

it's built into the file explorer

waxen panther
#

it's been broken up, the management in file explorer is called something else now

cunning raft
#

and said to use apple music for the rest

upper flicker
#

all of that shit is just the itunes framework built into finder

#

music also has tons of itunes code in it

waxen panther
#

they're renaming it cuz they're epic ๐Ÿ˜Ž

upper flicker
#

itunes is gone in name only really

waxen panther
#

probably going to be called

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apple tunes

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plus

brazen barn
cunning raft
#

i'd assume since they want you to pay for a subscription rather than paying for music

brazen barn
#

tomato tomato

upper flicker
#

I think you could still buy music if you wanted

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for now

void void
#

yes

#

hi guys where can I download paperbukkit jar

twin lagoon
#

paperbukkit

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that's a new one

waxen panther
#

what about papersponge

twin lagoon
#

papertopia

waxen panther
#

thats the dream

ember elk
finite wave
#

gl mining for a few weeks

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If just witch farms existed.

upper flicker
#

rip light engine

brazen barn
#

What are we even looking at here?

waxen panther
#

He just needs to use leaf light

upper flicker
#

would be a good test tbh

finite wave
#

He made a big tower Term

brazen barn
#

no way

#

a big tower, you say?

ashen cliff
finite wave
#

Why is he holding that stair.

ashen cliff
#

That's why.

finite wave
#

pathetic, they are not the egyptians.

ashen cliff
#

No idea why he isn't using fly tho.

finite wave
#

Cause he is living the life of a slave.

ashen cliff
#

His own slave.

#

A true Slav.

slim nymph
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) 2K has partnered with @XBOXPOPE to make the Borderlands 3 Claptrap... : xboxone - 189 comments, 4,446 points - bjki1107, 9h ago

potent fossil
#

this guy's speech in my class

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@slim nymph is it u?

slim nymph
#

i do have some to cook tonight

potent fossil
#

this is hilarious though because he's just quietly flipping his steak

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its a speech class

slim nymph
#

but shit got company coming over, gonna have to share or go buy more steak lol

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i got plenty in freezer but frozen

potent fossil
#

i wanna find some cheap steaks cause im poor af

slim nymph
#

bought me a mother fucking 3-4$ T Bones last night

potent fossil
#

size?

slim nymph
#

decent, it was on sale

potent fossil
#

or i guess weight? how much you getting for that

slim nymph
#

. 7lb 5$

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7/lb price

potent fossil
#

hmm

slim nymph
#

got some grass fed ribeyes for 3$ off too

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have to do grass fed less often, so expensive

ashen cliff
limber knotBOT
#

report them to hetzner? xD

ashen cliff
#

Already did.

#

Back to the usually UDP spam.

limber knotBOT
#

wut do u run

mental meadow
#

that sounds like a high quality product

twin lagoon
#

TCL sounds like a brand you'd find in a cheap supermarket

limber knotBOT
#

gotta love forced labor ๐Ÿ‘€

mental meadow
#

TCL is awful, we got one

vernal moth
#

Tcl is cheap but ok

#

Better than other china brands

mental meadow
#

I hate their "smart tv" interface

#

oh wait

#

nvm

limber knotBOT
#

not just using kodi smh

mental meadow
#

not on ours

limber knotBOT
#

who needs a tv wen da future is VR!!!

vernal moth
#

Man, weather was amazing today

mental meadow
#

just win a sony 4k 65" in a giveaway

vernal moth
#

I don't even want a 65 inch

mental meadow
#

me neither

vernal moth
#

My living room is too small ๐Ÿ˜‚

mental meadow
#

but i won one so i dont care lol

twin lagoon
#

send it an envelope to me aurora

vernal moth
#

This is my current tv situation

#

That's 49 I think

#

Samsung

limber knotBOT
#

I'm fine with 32 ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ of course bigger would be cool but...

vernal moth
#

32 would be meh

twin lagoon
#

ah yes 32" & 5" phones

#

what else is small in your house phoenix

vernal moth
#

I had that in my old room at my parents

mental meadow
#

I also won a sound system from sony and a ps4pro with vr headset

vernal moth
#

As pc monitor ๐Ÿ˜‚

mental meadow
#

๐Ÿ˜„

limber knotBOT
#

Mโ€‹icโ€‹haโ€‹elโ€‹: apparently I don't need to compensate for things ;)

olive marlin
twin lagoon
#

i tried setting it up but gave up on it within 5 minutes

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anything C# & Mono is just pepega

olive marlin
#

Yeah, not a fan of the bundled in GUI and stuff.

twin lagoon
#

i'm back at rsnapshot for now and i'm going to see if i can utilise ZFS Datasets

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because that might fix my issue

olive marlin
#

But what I have left to test is this or borg - I think I checked out borg a while ago, but don't remember why I didn't like it.

twin lagoon
#

they all just have issues

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and most of the time it's missing features because of a design issue pepega

olive marlin
#

Either design issues, or slow PR merging or just new projects.

#

Backup tools are quite complex and big, so it takes time :/

twin lagoon
#

it doesn't have to be complex & big though

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that's what a lot of the projects end up being

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they all want to adapt for 60 different systems etc

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or just grow over time

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i can't imagine it taking too much time to rewrite rsnapshot for example in a different language if you just take it's core

olive marlin
#

I want dedup + encryption + compression + more backends than just SFTP.

twin lagoon
#

write ur own 5Head

olive marlin
#

Many projects handle that last one by just using rclone.

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I don't have time for it :/

earnest rampart
#

H

olive marlin
#

Free for personal use or commercial trial
Non-trial commercial use requires per-computer CLI licenses at a cost of $50 per year
RIP

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I'll have to test it, but might just switch to it. I still need to add monitoring for restic randomly locking the backup directories though.

short yarrow
#

So if I have something like Gson gson = new Gson() that needs to be done in multiple methods in a class. Would it be best to have this as a static variable?

finite wave
#

Meh, really depends on whatever the fuck you like.

#

I usually have it a variable cause i find it bothersome to see "new Gson" all over.

flat gulch
#

Which java version is recommended to run an mc server?

twin lagoon
#

11

untold copper
#

Guys, I need a good randomtp plugin...

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That you can use with portals

finite wave
#

@worn ember

flat gulch
#

I use this one, it's pretty nice

mental meadow
#

Why does IntelliJ keep shitting itself once a week

finite wave
#

Your fault, netbeans freak.

#

No clue what either of those are barty.

untold copper
#

@flat gulch you sure it doesn't kill server?

mental meadow
#

I think Hisense is a bit more known

flat gulch
#

Did you pre-gen the world?

#

If so then yeah you're good

untold copper
#

yes

worn ember
#

hm?

flat gulch
#

yeah it's pretty cool. give it a shot

untold copper
#

also can you make portals using it?

flat gulch
#

Don't think so

untold copper
#

oh sad

finite wave
#

@worn ember I tag you each time someone mentions "random teleportation plugin"

untold copper
#

Damn this plugin has good ratings

worn ember
#

if you have something that can execute the command it works

flat gulch
#

yeah it's really nice

olive marlin
#

MrSnipa you can probably use another plugin to create portals and execute the rtp command.

flat gulch
#

Yes you can

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Check this one out

olive marlin
#

I don't use rtp but based on what I see DED asking around here I know it has some pretty nice optimizations ๐Ÿ™‚

flat gulch
#

You select the portal region (Like worldedit) and then define what it should do if someone walks in the portal

finite wave
#

I mean you can just use worldedit

waxen panther
#

Robos one is good

finite wave
#

worldguard*

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Fuck wilderness tp

flat gulch
#

you can also change what the portal is made out of, doesn't have to be obisidan and purple nether portal blocks

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worldguard*
@finite wave this one is better

mental meadow
#

any idea what to do when intellij suddenly starts hanging on "loading modules" for every project I try

worn ember
#

idrc what people use tbh

#

if rtp helps for them thats fine, if not thats also fine

untold copper
#

wow this plugin is cool

#

wait

cedar spade
#

are you able to minimise the dialog or is it fully unresponsive?

untold copper
worn ember
#

yeah

untold copper
#

Wew

#

epik

#

tysm :3

mental meadow
#

fully unresponsive

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can't even click cancel

worn ember
#

they have a lot more optimizations and features

wide chasm
#

If it happens for every project, sounds like a reinstall might be the best option

untold copper
#

why don't you push them to spigot?

mental meadow
#

oof

wide chasm
#

Could try to throw out caches, but if it happens for all projects, I wouldn't count on it

untold copper
#

If they're better

worn ember
#

cuz they're not full feature fledged

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iw ant to get some stuff done first

mental meadow
#

how do i throw out caches if I can't even access the menu lol

untold copper
#

oh ok

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add portals pls wink wink hint hint

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nudge nudge

wide chasm
#

When does it become unresposnive? If it only happens after a couple seconds, you should be able to cancel the operation before then.

mental meadow
#

mh

#

good idea

worn ember
#

meh not really the objective of the plugin

wide chasm
#

IJ should give you access to at least some options even when not having stuff loaded.

untold copper
#

Ik but its still cool, you can make WildTP Portals

#

Most wtp plugins have that

#

granted, they are all shit

worn ember
#

maybe once i get my addon system done i could add an extention for it

untold copper
#

also, can you disable /rtp on certain worlds?

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or you simply just don't add that world

mental meadow
#

yes, use world based permissions in bungeeperms or luckperms

worn ember
#

if you dont add it it wont allow it

mental meadow
#

when I click cancel it also stops responding kekw

untold copper
#

ohk cool 2 methods to do

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nice

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thanks a ton man =)

wide chasm
#

Sounds like a reinstall to me then

untold copper
#

what does offsetX: 0
offsetZ: 0 do tho

worn ember
#

np

wide chasm
#

If you're on an EA version, might be worth going back to an official release as well

#

From what I've heard EA versions aren't super stable.

mental meadow
#

Restarting Windows worked ๐Ÿ˜„

#

fucking windows man

upper flicker
#

restarting windows is always the answer

wide chasm
#

starts windows rant

mental meadow
#

true

upper flicker
#

at least until you can install linux

cedar spade
#

JetBrains, brought to you by Electronic Arts

finite wave
#

"Have you tried turning it on and off again?"

mental meadow
#

i do have arch installed

#

but sadly Adobe and Riot Games do not like Linux

cedar spade
#

yes I turned it off and it worked

untold copper
#

@mental meadow which riot games u play o.o

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has u played bioshock?

worn ember
#

riot dropped linux support right?

#

for LoL

#

league of lulz

untold copper
#

lol is lol

#

kek

worn ember
#

if you type lol in dota your character laughs

#

same

#

very strange

finite wave
#

Cause League of Legends is a joke to dota.

upper flicker
#

they're both a joke

#

you can say it

#

safe space here

finite wave
#

I can't make a lot of my jokes in here ๐Ÿ˜ข

minor badge
#

careful, you'll normalise knenwalds

quasi valley
olive marlin
mental meadow
#

riot dropped linux support right?
@worn ember technically there never was, you always had to use Wine (or Lutris which uses Wine) to play on Linux - but now they are introducing a kernel level anticheat which won't work with that

worn ember
#

stupid riot lol

#

wasnt there an exploit in it or something?

#

or was that valorant

mental meadow
#

in LoL? a few years ago the last time iirc

vernal moth
#

League doesn't have a kernel level anti cheat

#

Valorant has that

mental meadow
#

yet

worn ember
#

not yet

mental meadow
#

They said they wanted to add it in 2021 Mini

vernal moth
#

League doesn't have cheater issues

mental meadow
#

I know

#

thats why it's stupid

worn ember
#

just be like valve and use ML to detect hackers and cheaters

limber knotBOT
#

anticheats

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and yet we're more afraid of telemetry in an OS

mental meadow
#

honestly no

#

anticheat software is way scarier

#

Wasn't it some of the newer Battlefield or CoD that actually banned your account when the anticheat detected that you had a certain decompiler installed (or at least used in the last few days)

minor badge
#

bf uses punkbuster (at least in the older games?), so no can do there; it'd ban you for literally any app lol

ashen cliff
waxen panther
#

just be like valve and use ML to detect hackers and cheaters
@worn ember
valve
detect cheaters

#

they solely rely on player reports for everything but obvious cheating

worn ember
#

in dota its really a non issue

waxen panther
#

their ac succ

#

Yeah cuz no one plays dota anymore

mental meadow
#

VACNet is awesome tho

worn ember
#

i havent had a single cheater in the 4 years i play

waxen panther
#

vac bans being public on steam is great yeah

#

probably havenโ€™t played against a real person in dota in 4 years

worn ember
#

yeah must be all openai 5 bots

waxen panther
#

yea

worn ember
#

tbh that'd be more impressive

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cuz i have about 52% wr

#

now i just play against other 3k plebs

#

well at least their anti-booster measures are good

#

if they detect smurfs they just boost their mmr significantly so they get skyrocketed to their bracket. sure it makes boosting easier but at least players their games dont suffer as much

#

so less games ruined

quasi valley
#

@cedar spade smolStop

cedar spade
#

@quasi valley flu_pineapple

visual egret
#

does anyone know a good config for just a lobby server?

#

want it to be quick and responsive

#

without lowering render distance

flat gulch
#

Download deluxehub

#

honestly the best hub plugin out there imo

visual egret
#

i already wrote my own

#

im just talking about performance

#

wait

golden gust
#

I mean, use no-tick chunks? If you don't need mobs, don't have any mobs?

finite wave
#

Glowstone is funny to play with for hubs

#

If itโ€™s still being updated

visual egret
#

is offline mode supported here? i dont think it is

elfin pumice
#

oh i cant talk about it here?

#

ok i'm sorry

upper flicker
#

offline mode isnt unsupported

visual egret
#

@elfin pumice sorry i thought it was but i was getting mixed up with spigot

upper flicker
#

users may have their own views on that and choose not to help you however

visual egret
upper flicker
#

we just ask it doesnt turn into a big knock down drag out fight

visual egret
#

yeah sorry :(

golden gust
#

And also, generally, we're not google

elfin pumice
#

yeah i cant find anything on google

golden gust
#

Only people who generally know crappy offline mode supporting plugins and people running those servers

#

There is defo plugins for it

#

Just search for an auth plugin, many of them do that these days

elfin pumice
#

i knew some plugin but i dont remember names of them

golden gust
#

Just, don't expect any support when running many of those plugins as they cause their own stupid issues

limber knotBOT
#

just use online-mode: true, solves so many issues smh

flat gulch
#

Offline mode is a good way to increase your playerbase though

#

by a huge margin

limber knotBOT
#

s/margin/amount of cheaters

finite wave
#

Of cheaters dure

limber knotBOT
#

Correction, <DiscordBot> <03Mโ€‹edโ€‹o> by a huge amount of cheaters

golden gust
#

which introduces varying security issues and a flux of players who are generally entitled fuckbags

flat gulch
#

fair enough ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

visual egret
#

what units are used in no-tick-view-distance

limber knotBOT
#

chunks

flat gulch
#

I don't personally use it, but that's the only way I can see a good use for it

limber knotBOT
#

radius of chunks to be exact

visual egret
#

can i set it to 1/0 to if i wont be using the world at all?

#

as in lobby server?

limber knotBOT
#

if its below your view distance then it wont do anything

golden gust
#

if you're not using the world, don't load it?

flat gulch
#

yeah lol

#

you can unload it with multiverse

visual egret
#

i kinda want people to be able to walk around and stuff

limber knotBOT
#

so you want them to walk around but not see anything? thonk

flat gulch
#

oskar what are you trying to do

visual egret
#

im just trying to remove lag lol

limber knotBOT
#

well first you are going to have to go to a support channel. then post your timings with the lag ;)

visual egret
#

the real reason is because im running it on a computer the size of a credit card lol

limber knotBOT
#

easy solution then: don't ;D

visual egret
#

"if your homeless, just buy a house"

limber knotBOT
#

beyond that, turn down view distance, set no-tick to something that is still okay

golden gust
#

I mean

cedar spade
#

Run it on a computer the size of a computer

limber knotBOT
#

I feel like renting is enough if you are homeless but...

upper flicker
#

run it on at least a pineapple sized computer

flat gulch
#

yea, that's the bare minimum dude

golden gust
#

If you're expecting to get more than like 2-5 players on a pi or something, you're just... I have no idea how to say how moronic that is without being offensive in some capacity

upper flicker
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but yeah if youre running off one of those smaller arm systems especially, you can optimize and optimize but it's never gonna do all that amazingly

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2-5 is a good estimate

visual egret
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If you're expecting to get more than like 2-5 players on a pi or something, you're just... I have no idea how to say how moronic that is without being offensive in some capacity
i remember being able to do that @ 1.8

limber knotBOT
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yeah, you are going to have to run something not-vanilla based in that case

golden gust
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don't ping

cedar spade
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More like, "if you're homeless don't expect to be able to get decent performance out of a Minecraft server on an incredibly underpowered host machine"

golden gust
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But, yea, 1.8 was a much older dumber release

cedar spade
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Editing the ping out doesn't undo it fyi

golden gust
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The PIs limitations are still the exact same

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Just, like, it's newer so comes a tad bit better with the newer releases

upper flicker
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now an apple pi

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or a cherry pi

golden gust
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Psh

cedar spade
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Or a pineapple pi

upper flicker
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start to get some performance out of those

golden gust
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I belive that's called a mac mini

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runs

upper flicker
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Ive not had pineapple pi

limber knotBOT
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I mean the new pis are pretty good

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just not nearly enough for a mc server lol

golden gust
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they're 3 year old low-end budget bin SOCs

upper flicker
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yeah Ive got a couple on my desk, they're nice for what they are

limber knotBOT
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banana pi is pretty rad

upper flicker
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just not great MC machines

golden gust
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They're cool for toying with, but, it's literally a "you get what you pay for"

upper flicker
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hell we have people running MC on computer computers that have problems

visual egret
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it peforms worse than the raspberry pi

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and its louder

golden gust
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Basically, you're fucked

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if you're expecting us to help you get a pi to run in any sane form of capacity, you can honstly just fuck off

upper flicker
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that's a lot nicer than the laptop I used to dev on

golden gust
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The PI is severely low spec and under powered, people have gone crazy but the most people manage to get is a handful of players at best

upper flicker
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there, adds two player capacity

golden gust
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lol

limber knotBOT
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lol

upper flicker
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run off of external usb ssd

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64bit image

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and you'll still get 2-6 players

visual egret
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lol

upper flicker
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but itll be zippier

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not even kidding

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tbh I kinda want one of those heatsinks just to put on a pi and leave on my desk for the memes

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but apparently they do actually help significantly

limber knotBOT
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I feel like people running stuff like that must live in a country with very low energy prices... I can't imagine home hosting with what we pay in Germany lol

upper flicker
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but man do they look ridiculous

visual egret
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its a shame these dont come in the UK lol

upper flicker
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hey at least it comes with rgb fan

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because 2020

upper flicker
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uh

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isnt the point that its metal

visual egret
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there are fans tho

upper flicker
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I have my pi4 in a 3d printed case and it gets toasty

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but I dont run mc on it either

limber knotBOT
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at that point just chuck it into a bucket of oil lol

visual egret
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thinking of passive cooling it tho

upper flicker
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my odroid n2 however, the whole bottom of that is a giant heatsink