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finite wave
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huh?

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Brocc

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Have you heard barty became barty 2.0?

waxen panther
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Yes sir

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I was there when he was cleansing his sins

cedar spade
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barty 2.0 was the switch to essentialsx

minor badge
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I can try to bring it up, but I doubt he'll do it, Mini :p

cedar spade
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is this barty 3.0?

vernal moth
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^^

cedar spade
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also mini EssentialsY wen

vernal moth
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Runaway when?

minor badge
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have you or would you sign the CLA btw, martin?

waxen panther
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broccolai 2.0 coming December 2020

cunning raft
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@vernal moth are you not on at least decent terms with him too?

cedar spade
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*runway and no

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@waxen panther beta when

waxen panther
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November 2020

cedar spade
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alpha when

waxen panther
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October 2020

vernal moth
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@vernal moth are you not on at least decent terms with him too?
@cunning raft I thought so. then I tried to talk to him, he locked the discord for 2 hours and went on a monologue

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sooooooooooooooooooooo

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yeah

cunning raft
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Lmaooo

vernal moth
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have you or would you sign the CLA btw, martin?
@minor badge contributed before

twin lagoon
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ah yes a classic

minor badge
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I PM'd to ask his opinion on a switch, and mentioned you'd be happy to write the tooling

cedar spade
vernal moth
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I dont remember how our last convo about that went

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I think it was when legal was still meh

worn ember
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who is md? /s

cedar spade
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me

worn ember
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no ur the non accepting pr dude thonkeng

cedar spade
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yes

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me

worn ember
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just merge it i'm 20% sure nothing will go wrong

minor badge
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I've brought it up; we'll see what he thinks and whether he wants to talk over it in detail, Martin ^^

twin lagoon
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proxi saving the day clappywappy

vernal moth
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yeah, thanks

restive thicket
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:o

vernal moth
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if not ill need to harras demon more

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to work on paperweight

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or explain me where he left off

cedar spade
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mahjong mopping when

minor badge
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I too should have a look at that

vernal moth
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paperweight = gradle paper plugin

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for remapping

restive thicket
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If one of y'all could keep me updated on this Mojang mapping + Spigot that would be delightful.

upper flicker
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I will put you on the newsletter

vernal moth
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I think you will notice when something will happen, lol

upper flicker
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email, phone #, ssn please

restive thicket
upper flicker
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pffft didnt even try with the email

restive thicket
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Oof I registered that as a name.

vernal moth
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mothers maiden name and place of birth pls

upper flicker
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please take this required survey as well

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  1. How do you feel about tacos?
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  1. Would you be happier with a larger digger, rather than current mini digger?
restive thicket
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Nonya, United States

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1: Tacos be good

twin lagoon
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@restive thicket pepelove

restive thicket
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2: I think the digger should be as large as they want.

cedar spade
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mini digger best digger

quasi valley
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how about a medium sized digger?

cedar spade
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banned

quasi valley
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:(

unkempt drift
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hope this isn't impersonating

cedar spade
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๐Ÿ‘€

vernal moth
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theres a mega digger on spigot

cedar spade
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what about MiddleDigger

unkempt drift
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SmallAFDigger

mental meadow
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MediumDigger

finite wave
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Heh, i'm the greatest digger tho

cedar spade
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NanoDigger

unkempt drift
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MicroDigger ๐Ÿ‘€

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runs

worn ember
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this is not spigot worthy it should be
OmegaUltraBigDigger

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Core V2

void void
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Pog, 1.17 snapshots beginning this week

mental meadow
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nice

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nice @ mini

formal turret
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will there be one today or tomorrow?

mental meadow
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not nice @ 1.17

void void
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Idk but they added 20w45a to the issue tracker today

cunning raft
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Pog, 1.17 snapshots beginning this week
why did you post this in every discord

vernal moth
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it will drop in a few minutes

twin lagoon
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Pog, 1.17 snapshots beginning this week

void void
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@cunning raft 2

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Lol

minor badge
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he does that all the time jroy

twin lagoon
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yeah he got kicked from various discords

twin lagoon
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huh, they downgraded the NMS revision & reverted it

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why?

fallen oracle
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Aikar told him to downgrade it so he did

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And then he reverted it

twin lagoon
fallen oracle
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Because too many plugins had already updated I think

minor badge
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quite a few people complained actually

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then Me4502 did heavy lifting & convinced him, and md5 asked for me and Me to stand behind him in it and we did

mighty storm
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what a mess

minor badge
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akkoShrug md was completely reasonable when talking abt it

golden gust
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wouldn't be an issue if he followed consistency vs flipping a coin

pulsar wigeon
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WE had literally already released 7.2 and it was live on dbo when he decided to change it back :|

fallen oracle
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So dumb.

worn ember
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Drama angry_eyes

vernal moth
formal turret
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ty

olive marlin
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Shulkers are farmable now?

vernal moth
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looks like it

twin lagoon
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Entities are now saved separately from terrain chunks.
Added loot table function set_banner_pattern
Pack format in version.json has been split into data and resource versions

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Servers can now require custom resource packs to be accepted

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oh nice

vernal moth
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somebody wanna look how the entity stuff has been implemented?

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if its using the same POI kinda system that could be fun, lol

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dynamite, lmao

olive marlin
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Especially the face freeform thing.

quasi valley
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10/10 material names

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waxed_lightly_weathered_cut_copper_slab

vernal moth
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we gotta get a better block system, lol

twin lagoon
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better than remembering numbers

vernal moth
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yeah

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but what about slab[material=copper] type stuff

worn ember
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No

finite wave
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Clearly 67[material=3]

olive marlin
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Then you'd have it accept multiple arguments for some slab[material=copper,weathered=lightly,...], but not for others?

vernal moth
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yeah

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thats fine

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whenever there are variants, accept them

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also

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wooooosh

worn ember
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im so used to modded lol

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i wonder how the spyglass will work, if its just gonna zoom thats pretty useless lol

vernal moth
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urg

wide chasm
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Eww

worn ember
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idk what i'm even looking at

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also is that VScode?

vernal moth
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yes

worn ember
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why?

quasi valley
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because modmuss

vernal moth
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because its an text editor

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that happens to be good at creating diffs via cli easily

worn ember
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ok

vernal moth
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it seems like they completely changed how block entities tick

twin lagoon
vernal moth
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which is interesting, could be in favor of better performance or smth?

wide chasm
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Could also be more streams

slim nymph
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"Entities are now saved separately from terrain chunks."
Hmm so thats interesting, guess thats what lime meant when he told me vanilla wont need the change im working on for entity registration

vernal moth
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they basically completely differentiate between server and client tick now, and its a static method

slim nymph
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guessing entities moved to another file like POI

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and only loads once it goes ET?

vernal moth
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if I read this right, chests only tick when opened or smth

slim nymph
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that was something we brought up to DB to fix

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and he was shocked that it was doing that lol

vernal moth
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that stuff has been completely refactored

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theres now a chestlidcontroller

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"modmuss: this is pretty decent"

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lol

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they touched voxelshape merging stuff

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he went over it too fast to be able to tell what changed

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huge refactorings to entity models

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data driving soon?!

twin lagoon
cunning raft
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are you watching something mini

worn ember
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hes watching naruto

quasi valley
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modmuss

formal turret
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data driven entities ? ๐Ÿ˜„

vernal moth
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are you watching something mini
@cunning raft modmuss, fabric lead, is matching fabric rn and thus going thru the changes

cunning raft
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ah aight

austere ivy
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gobbl gobbl, it's a new month which means a new pfp.

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this month: turkey cat :)

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gobbl

worn ember
vernal moth
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I bet theres already an issue up for that

ashen cliff
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Free commit issue.

worn ember
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modmuss: looks at code ah yes they changed this to that, that makes sense
me: who has no idea whats happening ah yes that makes sense

vernal moth
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interesting

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game now tracks why an entity was removed

worn ember
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i wonder why they did that thonkeng

vernal moth
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because they refactored how entities are stored

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and to fix the bug of saving dead entities

olive marlin
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You think it's to finally fix the disappearing entities bug?

minor badge
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they did fix that actually

worn ember
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its in the logs that they fixed that

olive marlin
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Oh, I missed that.

compact pulsar
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I'm waiting for this for years

topaz mortar
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As I know that could be done using a plugin.

cunning raft
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^

compact pulsar
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Yes but I wanted to see it in vanilla because there are lots of maps to play with resourcepack ๐Ÿ˜„

cunning raft
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optifine stocks ๐Ÿ“‰

vernal moth
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was more about that you can hide the overlay with f1

cunning raft
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OH

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i didn't notice that

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lmaoo

twin lagoon
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@olive marlin what do you have backups again

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looking into proper solutions

upper flicker
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idk why they wouldnt let you hide the overlay

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same as all the other random overlays in the game

twin lagoon
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rsnapshot is great but for MC & a lot of servers that need to be synced at once you kinda need SSD storage

upper flicker
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why is there a circle in my block game though ๐Ÿ˜ 

golden gust
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"need to be synced at once"

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define?

compact pulsar
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why is there a circle in my block game though ๐Ÿ˜ 
@upper flicker To be honest, it is not the circle. Look good

golden gust
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Like, you disable saving, wait for the queue to flush, backup, re-enable saving

upper flicker
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still too circular

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no circles, no faux circles

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the entity shadows are also circles

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reeeeee

golden gust
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all tools basically use rsnapshot or something similar in the background

olive marlin
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@twin lagoon I'm still stuck on Restic. It has huge bandwidth usage, unfortunately (messed up algo for pruning stuff + no compression, although there are PRs for those).

golden gust
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your alternative is use a FS that supports snapshots

twin lagoon
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i already plan on using ZFS

olive marlin
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I was thinking about migrating to ZFS for snapshots.

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And then exporting them.

twin lagoon
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something like rsnapshot that utilises ZFS snapshots would be fucking ideal tbh

olive marlin
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Cause it looks like all tools are ๐Ÿ’ฉ

golden gust
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apparently ZFS needs a fair chunk of ram for overheads

twin lagoon
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ZFS runs fine for me with 16gb ram

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12TB storage

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honestly rsnapshot w/ ZFS snapshots could be endgame

ashen cliff
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Just means your aren't using it enough.

olive marlin
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I have some ZFS tool for managing snapshots to remote etc linked somewhere.

golden gust
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i guess it depends on your features and how much you're hammering it, and resource competition, etc

worn ember
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@spare venture i c grafana ๐Ÿ‘€

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i bet u fuckt up then

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should

twin lagoon
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@olive marlin rewrite rsnapshot with ZFS support pogU

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actually no reeeee why is it so hard

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rsnapshot is nice because it's super easy to use for everyone, SFTP in & you have directories with all the files

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the downside is that once you've filled all the intervals, it needs to rm -rf the oldest interval backup directory which is s l o w

olive marlin
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@twin lagoon I got sanoid recommended to me, haven't looked at it though. And I don't think it supports encryption out of the box.
https://github.com/jimsalterjrs/sanoid

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Can't rsnapshot have deleting/prunning as separate step?

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So that you can do it post backup, once all data is good?

slim nymph
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ugh pretty clear mojangs messing with world height, man i hope they dont go negative lol

nocturne falcon
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negative lefbad

slim nymph
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they made a getMinBuildHeight method to replace 0's

nocturne falcon
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well thats interesting

twin lagoon
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If enabled, rsnapshot will move the oldest directory for each interval

to [interval_name].delete, then it will remove the lockfile and delete

that directory just before it exits. The default is 0 (off).

use_lazy_deletes 1

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@olive marlin ^^

unreal quarry
golden gust
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I mean

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We still have canada...

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le sigh

upper flicker
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doesn't australia still technically answer to the queen?

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you know, democratic crisis if it ever actually came up

golden gust
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Ah, yes, prisoner island

upper flicker
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but same could be said for canadia

twin lagoon
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@olive marlin problem is still that rm -rf'ing takes ages because of the amount of flatfile shit that is being used

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lazy deleting is nice but it's just delaying the problem

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sanoid is nice but i just realized that it would take away the easy of use of rsnapshot

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where everything is easily accessible

quasi valley
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still a bunch o things hardcoded like biome size, but they're almost there for the world height increase

vernal moth
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I bet somebody will write a mod this weekend for it

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still a bunch o things hardcoded like biome size, but they're almost there for the world height increase
@quasi valley they also changed chunk section size to a variable tho

quasi valley
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that was changed in 1.16 already

vernal moth
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I saw that in diff

slim nymph
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its not that they changed section size, they just moved to the already existing method

quasi valley
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honestly not even sure if you can't do it already, since the biome height is only serverside hardcoded, but not in protocol

slim nymph
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so logic isnt duped

vernal moth
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oh so left over

slim nymph
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you cant just change a 16x16x16 to something else lol

quasi valley
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more chunk sections per chunk

vernal moth
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also modmuss brought up a nice point, lowering world size could be fun

quasi valley
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16x16x16 is named chunk section, the "chunk" technically is everything from top to bottom

vernal moth
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forget about chunk

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there are sections and columns

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everything else is confusing ๐Ÿ˜„

quasi valley
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๐Ÿ˜‚

twin lagoon
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web UI, hard-link based increments, opensource

worn ember
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thonkeng am testing if essentialsx triggers teleport for rtp since /back doesnt always seem to work. Turns out its called like 4x for whatever reason lol

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am confusion

olive marlin
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@twin lagoon BackupPC is nice, but you need to setup a server, I think you have polling backups.

twin lagoon
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wdym?

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setting up a server on each machine?

golden gust
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direction control: pull

olive marlin
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No. You setup BackupPC on your machine hosting the backups.

twin lagoon
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well tha'ts fine

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lol

olive marlin
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And it connects to the machines to backup them.

vernal moth
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looks like the game has a benchmarking framework now

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thats in server

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maybe you can use that to properly write unit tests now

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I dev wanna write an api for that

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am not sure how its activated

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theres also a command

mighty storm
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Who runs SpiGet?

vernal moth
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haylee/inventivetalent

mighty storm
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fancy

quasi valley
wide chasm
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I've had to go nineteen birthdays without, but finally I can have a birthday cake in Minecraft.

cunning raft
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didn't an april fools/anniversary thing have candles on cake?

ashen cliff
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I just hope they rework the texture.

olive marlin
twin lagoon
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that's on the list too i think

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Integrates with LVM, dattobd and btrfs for file system snapshots.

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ooo

wide chasm
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Can't find it on the mc wiki JRoy

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But... tinted glass is apparently not new and was also in the Minecraft 2.0 April Fools' version

olive marlin
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Are almost all textures borked?

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I got cheese mountains.

ashen cliff
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Working as expected.

void void
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looks ok to me

olive marlin
void void
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yam cheese lands

olive marlin
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Is it just me, or shulkers stopped working?

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Looks like a big update with many issues - I'm glad they are taking their time this release.

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And started releasing snapshots so early.

quasi valley
wide chasm
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lol

golden gust
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updet pappier u fuq

wide chasm
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About time, it's been 3 hours kenny

quasi valley
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but it's only a test server smolHands

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I was busy ||playing video games||

wide chasm
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I don't pay you nothing for playing video games!

vernal moth
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how many new blocks kenny?

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material enum go brrrrrr

quasi valley
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about 100

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blockstates are another story of course

vernal moth
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poor md5

cosmic raft
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I'm just waiting

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for the day that md_5

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adds an enum for every single blockstate

golden gust
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Don't give him ideas

quasi valley
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right, an enum with like 20k entries ๐Ÿ˜‚

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or rather ~18k right now

cosmic raft
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:D

wide chasm
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I don't see the issue

cosmic raft
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BlockStates.MINECRAFT_CAKE_BITES_3 or something

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:p

golden gust
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BlockStates.MINECRAFT_CAKE_WITH_CANDLE_BITES_3

cosmic raft
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BlockStates.MINECRAFT_FIRE_AGE_3_NORTH_true_EAST_true_SOUTH_true_WEST_true

golden gust
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lol

quasi valley
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but kash

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a material that will actually go into the enum if the name stays

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is waxed_lightly_weathered_cut_copper_slab

cosmic raft
quasi valley
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a long boi

worn ember
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Same

olive marlin
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Oooh, new dupe in 1.17.

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Sadly can only dupe candles :/

limber knotBOT
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tf are candles?

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did they finally add torches that extinguish?

olive marlin
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Blocks you place on cake and lit them?

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I don't know if they have special behavior like that.

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They look to be above-water version of seapickles

vernal moth
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you can also dupe those crystals

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using a slime block sticky piston

minor badge
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@mental meadow uwu

mental meadow
minor badge
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woa

olive marlin
void void
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bruh

vernal bone
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When I see something like this, I start to wonder, does mc devs test what they made?

olive marlin
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I still don't get why my textures are messed up - why do I have cheese mountains and redstone trees.

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Devs are biased. They test "nice, can plcase candle on cake". And then they might change something later and not test it fully.

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Since the feature works.

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It happens everywhere.

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Nice that they released snapshots so early, so that community can do a lot of this testing before we hit release.

worn ember
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who needs QA when you can make the community do it for free

olive marlin
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I swear I searched the issue tracker for this issue, otherwise I wouldn't have made Mojira account lol

vernal moth
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well

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it looks like mojang is trying to automatize tests

worn ember
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laughs in dupable candles by right clicking them

olive marlin
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Yeah, the base for testing looked promising.

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If I'll be able to add ok tests to my plugins in a year or two, that'd be very nice.

vernal moth
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I wanna give that a try tomorrow

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I think you can just start a new GameTestServer instead of MinecraftServer

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but it takes these args

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<init>(j.l.Thread,n.m.w.l.s.LevelStorageSource$LevelStorageAccess,n.m.s.p.r.PackRepository,n.m.s.ServerResources,j.u.Collection,n.m.c.BlockPos,n.m.c.RegistryAccess$RegistryHolder,n.m.c.Registry,n.m.c.WritableRegistry)

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so idk

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actually

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this is the ctor of MC server

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<init>(j.l.Thread,n.m.c.RegistryAccess$RegistryHolder,n.m.w.l.s.LevelStorageSource$LevelStorageAccess,n.m.w.l.s.WorldData,n.m.s.p.r.PackRepository,j.n.Proxy,c.m.d.DataFixer,n.m.s.ServerResources,c.m.a.m.MinecraftSessionService,c.m.a.GameProfileRepository,n.m.s.p.GameProfileCache,n.m.s.l.p.ChunkProgressListenerFactory)

austere ivy
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funnily enough, the feature I'm most excited about is forced resource packs. it was always annoying trying to enforce them.

topaz mortar
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I'm more hyped of the potential having datadriven entity(-skins) like bedrock.

vernal moth
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You could already force them tho

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That features was suggested by the server community tho

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And they are not happy yet

olive marlin
minor badge
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i hate this

limpid comet
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wait

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do we have 1.17 now?? what did i miss

twin lagoon
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snapshots

olive marlin
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You hate the tweet or having your mind blown to pieces?

limpid comet
twin lagoon
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it doesn't have the new cave shit though

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don't be too excited

vernal moth
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It has enough stuff to be exited

limpid comet
twin lagoon
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well that said it has some exciting internal changes

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and features

olive marlin
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Bluely more dupes!

limpid comet
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what internal changes

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omg finally111

olive marlin
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But yeah, I'm hyped for the internal changes.

vernal moth
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World height abstraction

twin lagoon
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very likely for data-driven blocks / entities to come

limpid comet
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WHAT

vernal moth
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Entity model abstraction

limpid comet
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REALLY

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!!!

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also wdym by world height abstraction? does that imply that some time in the future they might change it?

merry talon
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does anyone have a pixel 4a/5 and can answer a question real quick?

twin lagoon
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i have a 5

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@merry talon

olive marlin
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@limpid comet they replaced hard-coded 0 and 255 as min and max height.

merry talon
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does audio get muffled like shit when you're in a discord call?

vernal moth
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Before they had hardcoded 0 and 255 everywhere

twin lagoon
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errrrrr

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what do you mean

merry talon
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It seems to happen on samsung phones

vernal moth
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It's now a method

limpid comet
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ooh okay

merry talon
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like, just join a call and watch a youtube video

twin lagoon
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k sec

merry talon
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and tell me if it sounds the same

limpid comet
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yes that happens to me

waxen panther
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wtf weebs

limpid comet
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its because it uses the bottom firing speaker for audio and top firing for call iirc

olive marlin
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If you really want to know a lot of technical details, you can match the stream that Fabric guys made.

merry talon
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I mean with headphones

limpid comet
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ffabric had a stream? pog

merry talon
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@twin lagoon

twin lagoon
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oh with headphones

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sec

vernal moth
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Sweepy, call mode vs media mode

merry talon
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that setting doesn't exist anymore

twin lagoon
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it definitely sounded different with speakers

vernal moth
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This should be the same if in an actual phone call

twin lagoon
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i don't think i have a usb-c headphone adapter actually

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so uh

merry talon
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ah shit

vernal moth
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Android differentiates internally

merry talon
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but thanks

olive marlin
vernal moth
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I would blame that

merry talon
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so like there's no way to be in a call and have normal sounding audio

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it sounds like really bad hold music

olive marlin
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Bluetooth have different modes for that, unfortunately.

tired heath
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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ

limpid comet
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oh neat ty

tired heath
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Just came here to post it

olive marlin
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I'm excited for 1.17, but I suspect quite a few plugins might break. Which isn't bad, since I'll have more time to migrate my stuff and maybe write something new.

limpid comet
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i dont see plugins breaking as a problem

olive marlin
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I should be done with Uni by then ๐Ÿคž

vernal moth
#

I don't see stuff that would obviously break plugins yet

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Unless they use nms of course

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But generally, if they stick to the API, I wouldn't worry

minor otter
#

https://hasteb.in/voxuvive.http
I made a FileModule and a FileManager class to handle all my files, and would love some feedback on them, to see if I did something bad, or if it's good ๐Ÿ™‚ Only if you have time ofc, Which is why I sent here and not in dev chat ๐Ÿ˜›

wraith pike
#

Im not excited for 1.17 cuz i forsee cat chest all over again

limpid comet
#

TIL there's a fox teleport sound

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minecraft:entity.fox.teleport

nocturne agate
#

What switches do you guys like?

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Keyboard switches*

twin lagoon
#

linear

nocturne agate
#

o i see

#

which one?

twin lagoon
#

got kailh box reds currently

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getting JWK FFF's soon

nocturne agate
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

twin lagoon
#

also have gateron silent ink blacks somewhere

nocturne agate
#

ahh

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I personally like the tactile switches

limpid comet
#

linears are awesome

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i was originally a tactile man but i tried some linears and boy they are nice

twin lagoon
nocturne agate
#

JWK FFF's
JWK FFF sounds pretty good

twin lagoon
#

mmm

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i ain't planning on lubing them so we'll see if they do sound good or not

worn ember
#

who are we lubing?

twin lagoon
#

@minor badge

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i mean what

worn ember
mental meadow
#

Michael!

nocturne agate
#

Does lubing make that much of a difference?

minor badge
#

๐Ÿ˜ณ

twin lagoon
#

it does

#

veeeeeeeery big difference

worn ember
#

depends what ur doing KEKW

twin lagoon
#

very noticable change in the sound

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and very noticable change in feeling

nocturne agate
#

hmm i wanna try some lubed switched

twin lagoon
#

i can definitely recommend it

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if you have the right lube & tools

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i used the jankiest lubing method and fucked all of those silent ink black switches

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that said i did manage to get a nice recording before they died

mental meadow
#

That sounds so wrong

nocturne agate
#

Don't you use the spray lube?

twin lagoon
#

no

mental meadow
#

yet intriguing

golden gust
#

No, you want something that will last for liberal application

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Oh, you mean, nvm

twin lagoon
#

@mental meadow uwu

nocturne agate
#

there isn't a huge difference from what i hear

mental meadow
#

@twin lagoon uwu

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I'm gonna go get some hugs, need them now, good night

twin lagoon
#

it's noticably smoother @nocturne agate

nocturne agate
#

ahh ok

twin lagoon
#

if you listen closely atleast you'll notice a bit of a difference, less rough / scratchy

#

it can make a bigger difference in some switches / keyboards

nocturne agate
#

yeah i have seen the difference in the tactile switches. The sound becomes a lot more muffled

ashen cliff
#

Nolube.

olive marlin
#

I was thinking about going either silver or copper for my keyboard.

#

Although on my test kit, I quite like 62g Zealios.

twin lagoon
#

zealios are too tactile for my likings

#

that said i did like silent aliaz

olive marlin
#

I guess I mostly want something that is easy to press.

twin lagoon
#

they're tactile but have some sort of dampening material at the bottom

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it's like pressing into o-rings which i quite like

olive marlin
#

Aliaz are fine, but I think I want that small bump.

twin lagoon
#

aliaz has a bump though

olive marlin
#

I don't feel bump in Aliaz

twin lagoon
olive marlin
#

Oh, it has one.

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But had to use 100g one and go real slow to feel it lol

#

I guess I mostly care:
Low-ish travel distance
Slight indication of it being pressed
Silent-ish
Easy to press

golden gust
#

get an apple keyboard

olive marlin
#

I'm thinking of building or buying Ergodox keyboard for when I graduate from Uni.

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All the programmable layers โค๏ธ

golden gust
#

I'm just waiting for keyboards to be replaced with touch slates

upper flicker
#

never

#

pls

twin lagoon
#

ergodox ew

olive marlin
#

What's wrong with ergodox?

twin lagoon
#

it's ergo

olive marlin
#

I'm spending 12+ hours a day using a keyboard and my hands are hurting. :/

cedar spade
#

knenywhihp

quasi valley
elder ridge
#

Cherry

#

Lol

twin lagoon
#

@olive marlin have you tried improving posture etc

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seat height

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i sit in the most uncomfortable positions and i never get pain in my hands or anything while typing

olive marlin
#

I did.

twin lagoon
#

i don't have an ergo keyboard nor wristrest

olive marlin
#

I have biological defects in many of my body joints, so I'm more prone to pain and injuries :/

#

One thing I want to replace is mice, cause I feel like it's too small.

golden gust
#

Yea, I have that problem too

twin lagoon
#

mx master 3

golden gust
#

#BigHands

olive marlin
#

And I want to replace keyboard - bought some cheap-ass one so that I can mount my laptops on the height of my monitors and not have to use laptop keyboard.

twin lagoon
#

m x m a s t e r 3

golden gust
#

oh god, my mate had a mouse like that

olive marlin
#

It's like 450PLN though.

twin lagoon
#

but it's worth it

olive marlin
#

So, 130$ or so, I think?

twin lagoon
#

it's like 90 eur here

golden gust
#

I mean, it's a mouse

twin lagoon
#

check if you can get a student discount

olive marlin
#

Idk, didn't track conversion rate recently.

golden gust
#

Honestly, with my experience with computer mice, if it's gonna last...

twin lagoon
#

i got it for like 80 eur on the logitech site because of the discount

golden gust
#

I just had to repair my mouse that I've had for like, 3 years?

twin lagoon
#

none of my logitech mice have ever broken

golden gust
#

HP here

twin lagoon
#

even the cheapest logitech wireless mouse i had for 5 years never broke, and it fell on the ground multiple times

golden gust
#

Issue was is getting mice is a PITA unless you're able to wait a few days

nocturne agate
#

Logitech mouse's are built to last

golden gust
#

And, well, I reaaaallly needed a mouse, so I went to my local store and it was either a reasonably priced HP or like, 3x more

twin lagoon
#

70 EUR even

olive marlin
#

I like Logitech mouse (have one now), but BT support for linux is meh - need to manually update polling rate and stuff.

twin lagoon
#

i don't use BT

golden gust
#

has a little dongle thing

twin lagoon
#

logitech unify / any 2.4ghz receiver is best

olive marlin
#

I use BT cause I switch between 2 private and 1 work laptops.

twin lagoon
#

that said, having the ability to swap to BT with a press of a button is very nice

#

yeah same

olive marlin
#

It has the infinity scroll, right?

twin lagoon
#

yes

#

10/10 stuff

limpid comet
#

is infinity scroll the one that you press the button and the scroll wheel just keeps going for way longer

golden gust
#

yes

#

Goes for daaaaaays

twin lagoon
#

you don't even need to press a button on the mx master

limpid comet
#

ooh yeah i had an old logitech mouse that had that

#

very nice

olive marlin
#

It's sold out on Logitech site :/

twin lagoon
#

it's automatic

limpid comet
#

wait

#

wtf

#

how

twin lagoon
#

you just scroll at a certain speed and it unlocks

golden gust
#

oh, the older ones had a button which let you switch between the modes

limpid comet
#

damn thats sick

#

yeah that was my old mouse

twin lagoon
#

the new ones still do cat

limpid comet
#

it wasn't an mx master just some shitty bt mouse but still pretty hype

twin lagoon
#

but mx masters do it automatically too

golden gust
#

gave a nice satisfying click

twin lagoon
#

they don't have the satisfying click compared to the g502 or something

golden gust
#

So, you'd just start clicking it and have to guess if it was gonna go 10 miles with a flick or not

olive marlin
#

Michael you have some good deal there. The cheapest I see is 60 eur for used one, 92 eur for new one.

twin lagoon
#

.g logitech student discount poland

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
#

close enough

#

probably goes through the same prvider

olive marlin
twin lagoon
#

f

#

i can probably just get you a logitech discount code if it isn't available in poland for some reason

mossy vessel
#

That mouse is super ugly

twin lagoon
#

you're ugly

mossy vessel
#

.wa 479 zt in usd

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) No results.

mossy vessel
#

k

olive marlin
#

.wa 479 pln in usd

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Result: $123.75 (US dollars) (04/11/2020) - https://is.gd/JHwoBV

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mossy vessel
#

Wouldn't even want to pay a penny for that

olive marlin
#

It is a tad bit expensive. I wish I had my own business - then I could take like 1/4 of it off lol

cosmic raft
#

I prefer Corsair mice

#

Bad experience with Logitech mouse

#

Great experience with Corsair

twin lagoon
limpid comet
#

i have a corsair dark void pro

#

it's treated me nicely

olive marlin
#

I have Logitech now. Like the feel of it.

mossy vessel
#

The only thing I have from logitech is a webcam, but that's it

olive marlin
#

And, when I was in shops a few months back, the MX master felt great, but didn't buy it cause $$$

worn pasture
#

i love both corsair and logitech mice

twin lagoon
#

turbo ๐Ÿฅบ

#

show pussy

worn pasture
#

best mouse i ever had was a logitech one tbh

twin lagoon
olive marlin
#

I might order the MX master 3 - If I'll do it now, I should have it tomorrow. And can always return it within 2 weeks if I won't like it lol

twin lagoon
#

dew it

#

why is ur cat so cute peepoSad

worn pasture
#

he's being a right nasty cunt tbh

#

keeps biting me and it hurts

#

so i lay the smackdown

#

jk no i dont aPES_CattoWave

twin lagoon
#

he's growing up to be a cunt just like his dad

worn ember
#

@worn pasture thats a weird mouse

worn pasture
#

he do a startle

twin lagoon
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

worn ember
viral hornet
ashen cliff
#

Remove.

unkempt drift
#

The spyglass gonna have any server related stuff? Or is that all client side?

cunning raft
#

highly doubt the server knows anything about the user's spyglass state

worn ember
#

its just optifine zoom

void void
zealous wedge
#

ok zoomer

worn ember
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

austere ivy
#

you could probably use the interact event to check when a player has started a zoom though

#

or would that not even get sent to the server?

worn ember
#

what do you call 5 people using their spy glass at the same time?

#

A zoom meeting

tired heath
#

Talking about zooming in vanilla?

worn ember
#

sorry we dont do vanilla here

tired heath
#

ok you vanilla paper/spigot

#

happy now

worn ember
#

yes

tired heath
#

Just interssting since I once where testing a weapon zoom and negative walk vaules actually did some very high zoom for a second, than switched back to lame zoom

#

I guess there is no better solution these days?

worn ember
#

well theres literally a spyglas but sure

tired heath
#

like not optifine

worn ember
#

...

tired heath
#

in new version or what

worn ember
#

might wanna check the snapshots lol

tired heath
#

yeah

#

ok now I understand

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

would make a lot easier such stuff, check it tomorrow

viral hornet
#

Cant believe snapshots are already out

#

Slow down mojang pls

cunning raft
#

nothing big

#

just loads of refactors

#

they just added a few features to get people to actually use it

zealous wedge
#

yeah, the features are super rough lol

#

basically just tossed in new blocks, spyglass, and a beginning impl of bundles

viral hornet
#

Its just gonna be such a massive update

#

I'm scared lol

worn pasture
#

is this the cave update

zealous wedge
#

it will be

#

they haven't gotten to the caves part of it yet

worn pasture
#

fucking useless

#

(โ•ฏยฐโ–กยฐ๏ผ‰โ•ฏ๏ธต โ”ปโ”โ”ป

viral hornet
#

wdym useless

#

It's a pretty sought after update

worn pasture
#

no

#

this is completely unacceptable

viral hornet
#

oh

#

there there turbo

worn pasture
viral hornet
#

go pat kitty

#

it makes u feel better

#

turbo it's so fucking humid today

#

hhelp me

worn pasture
#

it's raining and cold here

#

i need lunch

viral hornet
#

swap

worn pasture
#

hnnnngggg

austere ivy
#

brilliant business idea. new company called "intex" and they launch a service called "citations" and they automatically cite your paper for you.

#

intex citations.

#

I'm a freakin' genius.

#

https://intexcorp.com this company needs to drop their air mattress and pool inflatables business and get on providing easy citations to broke college students now

nocturne falcon
#

yo wait thats actually genius

marble lark
#

err guys

#

why the fuck does my PC perform better on Integrated Graphics than on a Dedicated GPU

#

Minecraft gets 60 FPS on dedicated and 100 on integrated

nocturne falcon
#

cause mc fps is probably cpu bound not gpu bound

limpid comet
#

from the first result on google search

hollow pilot
#

The truth is, Minecraft clients are GPU dependent but the servers are all CPU

void void
#

Hello, everyone! I'm a Korean who can't speak English! My friend wants to join my PC version of Minecraft server through mobile version Minecraft! Once upon a time, I checked the program and plug-in which both the be version and the PC version were available. But now I don't remember what it was!!! My Minecraft server version is up to date with 1.16.3! Do you know anything? Please help me!!

limpid comet
#

geyser probly what you're lookin for

void void
#

Is there anyone who can help?

limpid comet
#

i just gave you your answer

#

geysermc bridges bedrock and java

void void
#

Oh, thank you! I used the translator and only said weird things!

marble lark
#

i thought they hired an OpenGL/Vulkan specialist recently to optimize their game lol

golden gust
#

recently

nocturne falcon
#

idk my mc is cpu limited long before my gpu

pseudo solstice
#

Are they gonna make the server more optimised anytime soon?

golden gust
#

yes, we totally know what mojang is up to

pseudo solstice
#

Any speculation tho?

#

Rumors?

golden gust
#

"speculation" is that they've got people who know stuff about performance now

#

practically, erm...

modern steppe
cunning raft
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

not really a better way to do it

modern steppe
#

not really a better way to do it
@cunning raft idk, init bunchof variables?

cunning raft
#

heh

modern steppe
#

nvm, literally Player player = null;

cunning raft
#

@wanton pike goto spigot for recruitment not here

#

@modern steppe it's right

#

You shouldn't be use an assertion

modern steppe
#

You shouldn't be use an assertion
@cunning raft why?

#

ok nvm

golden gust
#

?ban @wanton pike Multiple warnings against rule 4, this is not a market place.

leaden oxideBOT
#

dynoSuccess lowexer#1118 was banned | Multiple warnings against rule 4, this is not a market place.

mighty storm
#

shouldnt use assertions in prod code

#

it's worse than just not having one, just check if it's null

zealous wedge
#

nah, assertions are for invariants that the compiler/nullchecker can't infer

#

they're usually disabled at runtime

golden gust
#

^^ Was gonna answer the same but, like, yea

#

Gotta use a JVM flag for them to do anything at runtime

#

Not to say that you generally shouldn't question /why/ you think you need one, e.g. that example is likely blatently bad usage of it

viral hornet
#

@waxen panther our 5 star support wasn't good enough again sad

void void
formal turret
#

well you either posted one that was already claimed or someone claimed it instantly lmao

void void
#

Guess

viral hornet
#

One that was already claimed

void void
#

Correct pepegun2

#

Do I look like a nice person that would

#

Gift nitro lol

minor badge
#

@cunning raft uwu

viral hornet
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

limpid comet
#

camm POGGIES

modern steppe
#

well you either posted one that was already claimed
1000iq troll if true

warm anchor
#

Someone realllly wanna get kicked lol

mighty storm
#

Who

#

Sounds kinky

golden gust
#

Alright, well, i... I was upstairs, I was, er, sitting in my room, reading a book, and, well, this guy walked in, so I went up to him, and I erm, stabbed him 37 times in the chest

young silo
#

Why I can't launch minecraft ?

#

in log It's say.

#

in log, It say
[11:52:44] [main/INFO] [STDOUT]: [net.minecraft.client.main.Main:main:55]: Completely ignored arguments: [Pixelmon, Sound, Pack.zip]
[11:52:44] [main/ERROR] [LaunchWrapper]: Unable to launch
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException: null
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) ~[?:1.8.0_51]
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62) ~[?:1.8.0_51]
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) ~[?:1.8.0_51]
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:497) ~[?:1.8.0_51]
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135) [launchwrapper-1.12.jar:?]
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28) [launchwrapper-1.12.jar:?]
Caused by: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 6
at net.minecraft.util.Session.<init>(Session.java:53) ~[bii.class:?]
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:104) ~[Main.class:?]
... 6 mor

mild torrent
young silo
#

How can I launch minecraft from command line with username only ?

modern steppe
#

How can I launch minecraft from command line with username only ?
@young silo why do you even wanna do this?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14531917/launch-minecraft-from-command-line-username-and-password-as-prefix

jade flax
#

@young silo donโ€™t go posting the same thing In multiple discordโ€™s

modern steppe
#

[11:52:44] [main/INFO] [STDOUT]: [net.minecraft.client.main.Main:main:55]: Completely ignored arguments: [Pixelmon, Sound, Pack.zip]

@young silo what the frick? did you passed forge whatever modification thru cmd line?

#

donโ€™t go posting the same thing In multiple discordโ€™s
@jade flax already posted somewhere?

jade flax
#

Yeah, same exact messages in sponge

modern steppe
#

Yeah, same exact messages in sponge
@jade flax bruh

jade flax
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I donโ€™t write history lol

waxen panther
peak ginkgo
#

Gonna need an entire line of code for that piece of work

formal turret
#

they're getting longer and longer

#

it's real fun when you write them out in a config too

peak ginkgo
#

No auto complete oof

#

At least with autocomplete I know how to get the point across quickly

#

DOOR, down a few, banger

cosmic raft
#

lol

quasi valley
#

getting spongebob vibes

swift root
#

"gimme pickles but fire"

gentle nest
#

idk if u know the plugin RPGItems, but since it's reaally rarely updated, I wanted to know if there's a good alternative to it

strange hearth
#

?help

#

?avatar @olive moth

#

?userinfo @olive moth

#

bruh

#

?whois @olive moth

#

wack

vernal moth
#

Can you not mass ping random ppl pls?

strange hearth
#

the one person i was pinging was my friend

#

but u have convinced me to not do it

#

thank u

olive moth
#

I dont even know.you

#

...

void void
flint shore
#

Is paper out yet for the 1.17 snapshot?

olive marlin
#

No.

#

Paper can't do snapshots unfortunately.

#

Because Paper relies on Spigot, and Spigot doesn't do snapshots.

#

It is possible that when Paper will hardfork, there will be snapshots.

modern steppe
#

btw you better not use any snapshot versions

flint shore
#

Spigot does it right?

Paper can't do snapshots unfortunately.
@olive marlin

olive marlin
#

I only found 2 new dupes in yesterday snapshot - why shouldn't I use it?

#

Spigot doesn't do snapshots.

flint shore
#

lol

modern steppe
#

I only found 2 new dupes in yesterday snapshot - why shouldn't I use it?
@olive marlin lol wat

#

pls dm me these features

olive marlin
#

They are not that useful.

flint shore
#

Spigot doesn't do snapshots.
@olive marlin who does it then? I really wanna try out the new snapshot with a couple friends

modern steppe
#

They are not that useful.
@olive marlin why?

olive marlin
#

When you place candle on cake and right click the candle, you dupe it infinitely :)

#

Here you go, one birthday dupe :)

modern steppe
#

When you place candle on cake and right click the candle, you dupe it infinitely :)
avengers lvl thread

#

pls do wee woo red and wee woo blue

olive marlin
#

@olive marlin who does it then? I really wanna try out the new snapshot with a couple friends
@flint shore only vanilla does. You can start vanilla server without plugins.

flint shore
#

@flint shore only vanilla does. You can start vanilla server without plugins.
@olive marlin aight

#

Is there a fork for Tuinity as well?

#

xD

olive marlin
#

Tuinity requires Paper. Which requires Spigot.

modern steppe
#

I only found 2 new dupes in yesterday snapshot - why shouldn't I use it?
@olive marlin hold on, you said you have two dupes >:|

olive marlin
#

There's also dupe with the new crystals.

modern steppe
#

There's also dupe with the new crystals.
@olive marlin say

flint shore
#

Tuinity requires Paper. Which requires Spigot.
@olive marlin I know that. I'm just asking

modern steppe
#

recursive minecraf

olive marlin
#

If paper can't release, that means Tuinity can't either.

unreal quarry
#

not entirely true

olive marlin
#

@olive marlin say
@modern steppe search mojira, there's lots of bugs there for the new snapshot.

unreal quarry
#

Purpur is a fork of Tuinity, but updated before Tuinity did, for example ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

it all boils down to how much work people want to put in

#

vs waiting for upstream to do the work

olive marlin
#

Yes, technically you can - but risk not being compatible with upstream and might need to change API once upstream releases etc.

#

It's a simplification.

twin lagoon
#

bloodstone clappywappy

modern steppe
olive marlin
#

Hard fork is just "we no longer guarantee to be compatible with Spigot", so Paper can have differences in API.

ashen cliff
#

๐Ÿค”

olive marlin
#

Michael! I don't have good emojis :/

mental meadow
#

@twin lagoon uwu

twin lagoon
#

uwu

#

bloodstone buy a mx master clappywappy

modern steppe
olive marlin
#

You have it almost 1/4 cheaper than cheapest I can find here though :/

twin lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜”

ashen cliff
#

Nope.

olive marlin
#

Why does mx master have to be so damn expensive :(

mental meadow
#

because it is damn good

olive marlin
#

Aurora you also have one and recommend it?

mental meadow
#

sadly not but i used it before :3

#

i currently use a g502 hero

#

it's nice big and heavy, I like that

olive marlin
#

I'm worried it might be too heavy.

mental meadow
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the g502 or the master?

olive marlin
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Master.

mental meadow
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removable weights are a thing

olive marlin
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In mx master?

twin lagoon
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no that's the g502

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master isn't too heavy

olive marlin
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Yeah, that's what it looks like.

twin lagoon
mental meadow
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Is Mysz mouse?

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thats cute

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i love that

olive marlin
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Yes.

twin lagoon
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awa @mental meadow

mental meadow
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what language is that?

olive marlin
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Polish.

modern narwhal
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@ashen cliff that happens when you sell too much for villagers. It will be ok after one mine day, if you dont sell more. It came 1.16.2 or /.3

mental meadow
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@twin lagoon meowhuggies

twin lagoon
mental meadow
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ah, I was wondering which eastern european country does not use โ‚ฌuros

olive marlin
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You might like that almost every word has diminution (i thinks that's what you call it).

unreal quarry
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took me longer than i want to admit to figure out what aurra's picture was of...

olive marlin
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We had a vote like 12 years ago or so, and we rejected EUR.

twin lagoon
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not using EUR ResidentSleeper

unreal quarry
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looked like a car part at first glance, so put my mind in the totally wrong category of thinking lol

mental meadow
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aurra

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aurra is a new one ๐Ÿ˜„

twin lagoon
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awowa

unreal quarry
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i cant say that word, so i sounded it out like i do say it :3

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sorry

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lol

mental meadow
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you know the rules Billy

unreal quarry
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rural is another one i cant say

mental meadow
twin lagoon
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awuwuwas

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who the fuck says that

mental meadow
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who else ๐Ÿ˜„

unreal quarry
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lol @mental meadow

mental meadow
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perfect

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xD

twin lagoon
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@viral hornet cunt

mental meadow
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michael

unreal quarry
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woah, lets go straight for the most offensive word, michael.. damn

mental meadow
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thats not very paper 2.0 of you

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon ๐Ÿฅบ

quasi valley
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coumnt?

waxen panther
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awwa

viral hornet
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KENNY

twin lagoon
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@viral hornet hows ur car

viral hornet
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w-what

cedar spade
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exploding

viral hornet
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why are you asking about my car

twin lagoon
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the junkies who broke into it cammy

viral hornet
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ohhy

twin lagoon
viral hornet
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yes

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hahaha

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dogs got fucking CAUGHT

twin lagoon
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L

viral hornet
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I'm going to find out when their court date is

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and go watch

twin lagoon
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fuck em up cammy ๐Ÿฅบ

viral hornet
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They're getting charged with a count of fraud for every purchase they made, and breaking and entering for every time they came in, and went in a car

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They're fucked ๐Ÿฅบ

cedar spade
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What's a car

olive marlin
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I think it makes anti-xray count lava as solid blocks, so to obfuscate ores touching lava.

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It's for when they use freecam / have texture pack which has visible above lava ore textures /doesn't render lava etc.

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Thank Stonar.

pastel pivot
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      # Doesn't work well with non-stone-like ore textures.
      lava-obscures: false```
<https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e>
modern steppe
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does engine-mode: 1 anything?

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pls halp, what does mean NMS?

pastel pivot
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net minecraft server

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java package basically

modern steppe
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ty

indigo bone
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is it a good idea to get the latest CPU/processor for server?

vernal moth
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If that's better than the current one, yes

indigo bone
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kk

twin lagoon
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depends on the current CPU you have yeah

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if you're starting from scratch you'll definitely want the latest high-end desktop CPU when possible

waxen panther
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i want michaels cpu

unreal quarry
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put more emphasis on high-end desktop because most people think the best xeons are better

twin lagoon
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well the xeon e22xx line is very good

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e2288g etc

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e21xx aswell

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definitely not better though

modern steppe
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how ik minecraft needs one quick as fuk boi core

vernal moth
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No it needs multiple cores

modern steppe
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No it needs multiple cores
@vernal moth are?

twin lagoon
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are

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@mental meadow awa

mental meadow
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awa

vernal moth
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Ewe

twin lagoon
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uwu

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brocc shut the FUCK up

modern steppe
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owo

waxen panther
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WTF

twin lagoon
waxen panther
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michael why are you BULLYING me NOW

twin lagoon
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fuck you broccolai

waxen panther
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fuck you michael