finally my wide screen is comming in handy
#general
vernal moth
twin lagoon
adobe acrobat best @vernal moth
vernal moth
I didnt see that option tho
minor badge
hello 1.16.4
mental meadow
miniiii
ashen cliff
Just live inject ViaVersion. 
mental meadow
that sounds save
ashen cliff
I'ma do it.
Well after someone hacks together 1.16.4 Bungee, so I can instantly jump ship if that fails.
void void
?
quasi valley
golden gust
Because we've already told people to not ask for an ETA.
twin lagoon
it's been out for 10 minutes shut the fuck up with your ETAs
void void
my bad
quasi valley
michale 🐌
void void
yessir
tough burrow
When logging in with a Microsoft account, players blocked in that account are now also blocked in the game, and account restrictions are now respected.
there ya go, screw up on something in your microsoft account, and gone 10 year old minecraft account
warm anchor
Maybe don’t screw up then
tough burrow
@warm anchor sometimes stuff happens beyond your own control
warm anchor
It’s next to impossible to get banned by Microsoft unless you are doing something pretty fucking stupid
2FA is a welcoming change
tough burrow
I am already going to loose one account due to not having access to the email anymore, and pre 2015 bank details didnt work out for me
I am absolutely for 2fa, but thats not this
meager tusk
helo
twin lagoon
MSA is good
warm anchor
Kekw
meager tusk
what is this chat 
mental meadow
wtf
twin lagoon
idriz 
upper flicker
its a good thing we dont ban people for saying incredibly stupid shit
all Im going to say
meager tusk
Michale 
mental meadow
michael
warm anchor
We should ban stupid people. They don’t allow to be here
meager tusk
what's MSA
upper flicker
it wasnt up to you before hand
twin lagoon
the account migration @meager tusk
meager tusk
ah
warm anchor
It was never up to you lol
twin lagoon
"it's all to introduce DLC & microtransactions on java"
warm anchor
Mojang owns the game not you
twin lagoon
meager tusk
yes of course
upper flicker
but if thats how you feel, good bye then
meager tusk
account security -> dlcs
tough burrow
The could have done a , new accounts required microsoft, and let it up to server owners to allow disallow legacy
golden gust
Mojang banning acounts is nothing new
meager tusk
golden gust
MSA has fuck all to do with account banning
warm anchor
upper flicker
I hope you'll take your outrage and really stick it to them by not playing the game anymore
real constructive protest action
rather than just talk online
meager tusk
warm anchor
Maybe you should read the tos before you accept to launch your Minecraft server.
meager tusk
it's just to make accounts safer
warm anchor
Yes
meager tusk
that's really all the details there is to it
where will they flock to
same game lol
golden gust
wat
mental meadow
Maybe you should read the tos before you accept to launch your Minecraft server.
imagine if there where a EULA you manually had to agree to before starting a new server
upper flicker
hypetale when it launches in 3 years
meager tusk
oh so piracy 
upper flicker
ah yes piracy thatll show them
golden gust
MSA has 0 change on your server bar the auth mechanism
warm anchor
Wdym premium.
meager tusk
good business model bro 
twin lagoon
@mental meadow 
golden gust
MSA will also help flush out a ton of the crap from other services people have been crying about for years, hopefully putting a massive brick in the face of botters, etc
warm anchor
That’s a really stupid name to call it with. Almost like the illegal owner wants to make their server sound not as bad as it is
latent valve
afew week later mojang announce 1.16.5
fix missing texture 
worn ember
paper fuckfest yey
pulsar wigeon
paper discord looks just like i'd expect on a release day 
hope yall having a great day today
warm anchor
Freedom 
tough burrow
I am for better protection, just against moving it tied to a microsoft account, not trying to burn down the world here jees
void void
Hello everyone! Can someone please dm me the link to download paper player so I can join paper servers
meager tusk
your freedom is being violated by switching to MSA
meager tusk
meager tusk
twin lagoon
paper player what
warm anchor
Time to remod winzjany so he can ban everyone
worn ember
in soviet russia game blocks you
meager tusk
warm anchor
?????
upper flicker
microsoft already had that power
worn ember
they literally own the game
warm anchor
Wtf are you on lol
meager tusk
there's really only benefits to the switch
minor badge
reminder that microsoft accounts are only there for authentication, not for hosting the servers themselves
twin lagoon
@minor badge @meager tusk
warm anchor
Yes I agree with Michael
wide chasm
MFA
minor badge
@twin lagoon @meager tusk 
upper flicker
for someone who claims to want more information, you sure do seem to have your mind completely made up
twin lagoon
2fa
upper flicker
le tyranny
warm anchor
Lol
meager tusk
two factor authentication 
worn ember
you shouldnt bitch about something you dont understand
twin lagoon
that
upper flicker
thats literally what the internet is for darkeye 😠
meager tusk
twin lagoon
do you know what 2fa is
mental meadow
Another good thing is stable login servers, as Mojangs stuff wasnt that great
wide chasm
MSA supports 2FA though
warm anchor
Especially in a discord where there are many people understand more than you
twin lagoon
you're not making any sense
warm anchor
worn ember
wtf Z, the internet is only for civilized people, get out
warm anchor
Lmao
meager tusk
You wouldn't download a car, would you?
worn ember
warm anchor
Phone 2FA is not secured
mental meadow
MSA supports 2FA, which Mojang auth doesnt
worn ember
finger print authentication wen
mental meadow
yes
wide chasm
Time-based One Time Password or something
vernal bone
That's what 2fa is 
mental meadow
And I get it, I was against that as well but the benefits are awesome
warm anchor
Not all 2FA has totp
twin lagoon
minecraft is separate from all of that
vernal bone
2fa has time based codes
worn ember
you get banned if you get your ms account banned tho 
twin lagoon
you only lose your shit if you manage to get your entire microsoft account banned and if you manage to do that i am very impressed
mental meadow
no Simon
next wind
does mc ban accounts though? isnt that 100% up to server owners?
modern narwhal
Why player's account will be banned?
warm anchor
Then I think it’s well deserved darkeye
worn ember
oh yeah sure
twin lagoon
@next wind probably only if the username is
worn ember
i agree
twin lagoon
no
mental meadow
no
twin lagoon
that has never happened
warm anchor
No
twin lagoon
and it won't happen
warm anchor
Wtf
next wind
forgot about usernames, true
twin lagoon
barty 🥺
cunning raft
release day
worn ember
there are plugins that do that to some extend
cunning raft
fun fun
worn ember
but mojang doesnt
upper flicker
that used to be a big thing, le mcbans
worn ember
yeah
mental meadow
god that was awful
worn ember
its so easily abused tho
warm anchor
It isn’t fishy and we already know how it will work out
worn ember
kinda sus
mental meadow
No I get that feeling too
wide chasm
Even if they suddenly start banning accounts, they could've already done so without MSA, so that isn't a negative of it.
mental meadow
I understand that at least
modern narwhal
mc account will be banned by Mojang just as nowdays. If you sell/give your account for 3rd party. etc. Not what you have done or not done in some server.
twin lagoon
you are
mental meadow
Well, if you are violating the EULA or ToS then Mojang and or Microsoft have every right to take your account away, but that was always the case
unreal quarry
Don’t forget the account “reseller”
@warm anchor you mean selling stolen accounts? not reselling anything but stolen credentials 😛
warm anchor
There’s launcher that “sells” access to MC account and take it back after x days @unreal quarry they even have their special launcher for it lol
worn ember
excuse me its you're 
cunning raft
they're just creating access tokens on their server rather than ur computer eter
worn ember
golden gust
mojang drops their outdated authentication system which has various dozen technical faulterings around security for something well tested and proven
whole community rees
warm anchor
Lol
mental meadow
but but Yggdrasil
worn ember
people reee at any change, whether its good or not
warm anchor
But my conspiracy theory
mental meadow
fuck notch
warm anchor
worn ember
wide chasm
Notch is bad though
mental meadow
and not in the good way
golden gust
The system is insecure as balls
twin lagoon
he's not a greedy corporation but he's a transphobic, homophobic and whatever he is
unreal quarry
whole community rees
nah, only the idiots you guys like to support are reeeeeeing lmao
golden gust
stuff like token stealing has been mitigated for years by other services, etc
mental meadow
you forgot racist and antisemite Michael
cunning raft
this has nothing to do with notch in the first place, this just has to do with account security
cunning raft
this isn't greed
worn ember
iqtest to download paper wen
twin lagoon
it's all conspiracy shit
golden gust
MSA has fuck all to do with microsoft greed...
twin lagoon
you're like a fucking facebook soccer karen who doesn't believe in vaccinations
golden gust
MSA is purely about fixing the lacking authentication systems and providing security features people have been begging for for years
twin lagoon
it's all conspiracy bullshit & paranoia
upper flicker
We should encourage everyone to put their money where their mouth is and uninstall
mental meadow
pls stop with conspiracy stuff
warm anchor
But I support Minecraft
cunning raft
@dim shadow
worn ember
i already uninstalled when i heard MS
cunning raft
no
upper flicker
they just care enough to bitch, moan, and make up garbage
twin lagoon
define bend the knee
cunning raft
no
twin lagoon
pay us to do what
cunning raft
HOLY FUCK
minor badge
Can we like drop it
ancient bolt
ah yes, microsoft greed to take over a game that....microsoft....already owns....
golden gust
How the heck are they making you bend the knee?
unreal quarry
We should encourage everyone to put their money where their mouth is and uninstall
@upper flicker you mean like how all those americans said they'd move to canada if trump won?
wide chasm
But what has that to do with MSA?
mental meadow
?warn @dim shadow Conspiracy theories are not welcome, I told you to drop it
leaden oxideBOT
The Leocabotive™#1938 has been warned. || Conspiracy theories are not welcome, I told you to drop it
warm anchor
Thanks
upper flicker
Im not going to tie it back to politics, y'all qaeda will show up
cunning raft
please stop talking, forever
wide chasm
They can also do that without MSA
twin lagoon
yeah you need to stop talking
upper flicker
no
ancient bolt
?ban @dim shadow being an asshole
leaden oxideBOT
The Leocabotive™#1938 was banned | being an asshole
mental meadow
yes, by banning you barty
twin lagoon
L
warm anchor
You can ask to be banned
mental meadow
yup
worn ember
alright then
warm anchor
And unbanned
upper flicker
if you sent one of gpdr things discord might
but uh, we've still got them recorded elsewhere
mental meadow
banning via dyno deletes everything
ancient bolt
can we tell quill to ban without deleting?
mental meadow
yes
ancient bolt
like a command arg
mental meadow
ban save
wide chasm
.?ban save I think
ancient bolt
oh
slim nymph
someone said if you kick then ban save
ancient bolt
my b, I'll try to remember that
twin lagoon
it's not everything
slim nymph
embrace your past barty
twin lagoon
his old messages are still there
ancient bolt
so do I do ?ban @slim nymph save or ?ban save @slim nymph
worn ember
its still logged anyway
slim nymph
_>
wide chasm
save before iirc
ancient bolt
gotcha
worn ember
kash still has all the logs
mental meadow
?help ban
leaden oxideBOT
olive garden
just try it out on me
slim nymph
how far back does that match go lol
worn ember
mental meadow
"up to 100 messages"
ancient bolt
look I'm just saying, hypothetically, if we were to ban Aikar....purely hypothetical
warm anchor
Barty you can get a script and have it manually delete all your message lol
unreal quarry
.?ban match ||retard||
twin lagoon
billy that is not paper 2.0
worn ember
warm anchor
Lmao half of this discord wil be gone
mental meadow
barty just send a gdpr request and get everything deleted
slim nymph
hed lose his account then
warm anchor
Yes
cunning raft
there's an autohotkey script that works better barty
since the client deals with rate limits
unreal quarry
heres what you do, @spare venture. rename your account to something else. then go make a new one. all your old messages will then not be traceable back to your name 😉
worn ember
yes, they do
cosmic raft
you all need to calm down yikeks
unreal quarry
lmao
unreal quarry
not death metaly enough, kash
olive garden
kash, where can I access the command list? stuff like .eta
worn ember
that doesnt look very calming ot me
upper flicker
all it takes is one person discovering inspect element
worn ember
.help
upper flicker
whole thing goes down the drain
cosmic raft
olive garden
thx
limber knotBOT
worn ember
!stats
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 18 days, 3 hours, 0 minutes, 26 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 40868 (5.962%)
Messages from Discord: 644660 (94.04%)
worn ember
<6%
unreal quarry
5.9%, when we gonna just delete that shit and be done with it? lol
cosmic raft
We aren't.
mental meadow
irc is hella useful
gritty tundra
Is there any sort of mine ticket plugin? That players have to buy a ticket to be able to access a mine for a certain amount of time?
mental meadow
I don't use it but I have the mentions set up on my phone
cosmic raft
You do realise that Korobi runs on IRC, yes?
mental meadow
so if someone mentions me I get a notification
cosmic raft
^_^
mental meadow
or if someone uses the mod tag
unreal quarry
korobi could run on jda
unreal quarry
lol
mental meadow
kash
worn ember
there will be no fucking today
mental meadow
❤️ @cosmic raft
cosmic raft
Billy
worn ember
its nnn anyway
cosmic raft
Let me put it this way
The discord bot I ran, went down all the time because the gateway.discord.gg domain stopped resolving to an IP address constantly
ancient bolt
create your own discord library and run it on that
slim nymph
there will be no fucking today
@worn ember im sure there are a lot of people fucking today, but prob more so tomorrow night
cosmic raft
I did, demon
ancient bolt
but I'm at the point where I'm not sure why we bother with IRC just for a bot
cosmic raft
the problen is the stupid API
slim nymph
just keep on screwing until the world ends
worn ember
i'm sure of it
mental meadow
oh right
wide chasm
(Technically all IRC users are bots)
cosmic raft
IRC is not just for a bot
wide chasm
🙂
mental meadow
yall have independence day tomorrow
limber knotBOT
reee
mental meadow
independence from democracy
golden gust
people still use IRC, having the logs from it are also nice too
cosmic raft
I'm on IRC more than discord when on my phone
upper flicker
given the operating cost and maintenance is basically 0, aside from having to listen to people randomly bitch
worn ember
buh me privacy
golden gust
We have bots blow up all the time too running on discord, it's just meh
upper flicker
ofc if we wanted to solve the randomly bitching problem this guild would need to be a lot smaller
golden gust
one every month or two we gotta restart the IRC bridge as discord craps itself
ancient bolt
The discord bot I ran, went down all the time because the
gateway.discord.ggdomain stopped resolving to an IP address constantly
@cosmic raft sounds like your dns resolver is broken. That's not really an issue with Discord and not something basically anyone else has issues with
cosmic raft
Ah, yes, a problem with only a single domain is my dns resolver? :P
worn ember
clearly
warm anchor
Lol
ancient bolt
cool, DNS servers don't work like that
cosmic raft
I blame cloudflare blocking it
ancient bolt
and discord isn't running a root DNS server that I'm aware of lol
cosmic raft
because they run their API through cloudflare
ancient bolt
I mean discord is bad don't get me wrong
golden gust
Their API blows up so often and breaks pretty much every bot running on it
upper flicker
that's it we're switching to a mailing list
ancient bolt
they run literally a chat app and their backend code was so bad they blamed the language they were using instead of how bad their code is
cosmic raft
HostnameUnverifiedException: The certificate of the peer does not match the expected hostname (gateway.discord.gg)
spring.log.2020-07-17.03901580167104633.tmp:Caused by: java.net.UnknownHostException: gateway.discord.gg
ancient bolt
if you can't write backend code for a goddamn chat app that easily scales then idk what to tell you
cosmic raft
etc
minor badge
I'll send daily flirts to the mailing list directed at cat ^^
golden gust
Sometimes the bots are capable of coming back fine, other times the failure was just so stupidly unexpected that it craps the bed
wide chasm
Put me on the mailing list Z
upper flicker
ancient bolt
barty can you test your delete script on a different channel please so we don't see your messages appearing and disappearing constantly
wide chasm
Then I'll actually use my e-mail
unreal quarry
that's it we're switching to a mailing list
if thats how we get rid of irc, i'm down for it
warm anchor
Lol
wide chasm
We'll use a mailing list, but Discord will go too
ancient bolt
🙄
upper flicker
yes mailing list only
unreal quarry
i'll just write a discord bot to handle the mailing list in guild text channels for me
runs away
upper flicker
no point in keeping discord with such a great replacement
upper flicker
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck SfB
ancient bolt
that doesn't exist anymore
upper flicker
yes it does
cosmic raft
yes it does
ancient bolt
"Teams"
upper flicker
teams is still just "we recommend you start moving to this"
ancient bolt
I refuse to believe
ancient bolt
2 jobs ago the company I worked for used skype for business
😮
I refuse, it can't be true
cosmic raft
it still exists, but is being replaced by teams at some point
so it's... half way gone
but still here
ancient bolt
but regardless we should switch to bulletin boards, those will never go away
upper flicker
EoL is July 31st, 2021
ancient bolt
microsoft keeps things around 10 years longer than anyone wants them to. Google shuts shit down 10 years before they should. Can we just get a company that is normal for once
upper flicker
no
ancient bolt
something something apple
cosmic raft
Microogle
limber knotBOT
guilded.gg tho
upper flicker
apple breaks shit every release
ancient bolt
yeah but macbooks look nice so it's okay
cosmic raft
heh
unreal quarry
apple breaks shit every release
@upper flicker not just each release, sometimes in between releases. they even changed the charging port in the middle of this commercial https://youtu.be/jyTA33HQZLA
warm anchor
No submarine runs iOS though
unreal quarry
runs away
warm anchor
upper flicker
not until apple uses the mountain of cash they're sitting on to buy the us navy
upper flicker
yep
twin lagoon
all everybody wants is a Google Pixel 5
upper flicker
and it wont happen
theyll drop the port entirely instead of just switching it to usb c
limber knotBOT
iphone 12 :eyesshaking:
warm anchor
Fuck that Apple will come up with USBD for themselves
limber knotBOT
I really wanted to get a new phone but... I'm not paying $700-1000 for that phone
upper flicker
Pixel 5 XL wouldve been nice
limber knotBOT
even going from an iphone 8, the 12 is not good
warm anchor
I mean if you get on an upgrade plan it’s only $20 a month
limber knotBOT
ew payment plans
cosmic raft
worn ember
Hello
limber knotBOT
hmm yeah this script doesn't work on messages older than like 1 day
says it's deleting them but they still show up in search
or they're just still cached in my client
worn ember
lmao got that recommended aswel
strange fog
when travertine
cosmic raft
@minor badge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOtFwMPT7c4
stiff yarrow
my GF's family are very into birding and now I have 7 bird feeders on my back porch
limber knotBOT
my parents got into it too
so many bird feeders
every time I visit them, a flock of birds flies away as I'm pulling into the driveway
finite wave
That sounds like it would be noisy nossr
stiff yarrow
only 1 bird shows up every now and then this time of year
and birds aren't that noisy... except for the ones that are
worn ember
we got tonnes of birds but we dont need to feed them
urban latch
Why has travertine not been updated since September?
golden gust
Because I forgot.
urban latch
Oh ok. Well i hope it can be updated at least for 1.16.4 support
golden gust
I've been working on it
Just,
Paid work > Paper > Waterfall > literally anything else > Travertine
urban latch
;-; travertine need more love
twin lagoon
it doesn't
mighty storm
Travertine is just waterfall with viarewind change my mind
golden gust
Via on the proxy is ass
worn ember
quasi valley
probably with all 3 Via plugins combined on the proxy being in an endless pit
vernal moth
man I got so bad at the piano, holy shit
can't even play a simple chord progression without twisting my hand behind repair, lmao
thats literally just 4 chords
spigot dropped
minor badge
you're late smh
vernal moth
Halo.mp3
vernal moth
.g halo beyonce
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnVUHWCynig -- Beyoncé - Halo - YouTube: "Oct 3, 2009 ... Beyoncé's official video for 'Halo'. Click to listen to Beyoncé on Spotify: http://smarturl.it/BeyonceSpot?IQid=B... As featured on I..."
vernal moth
its the intro
vernal bone
@solemn hull Sorry for the ping, but witch dc client do you use? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
upper flicker
looks like ripcord in his screen
vernal bone
Thanks!
finite wave
shhh, no no ripcord
jolly stratus
Who's hyped for election day? 🇺🇸
twin lagoon
i am excited for election day, said no one fucking ever
upper flicker
If you live in the US and haven't voted, go vote.
After that, go to the hardware store, by some lumber, and board up your windows
jolly stratus
^^
upper flicker
No matter who wins, there's gonna be a lot of unhappy people
And if you want to talk about it any more detail, please direct it to #politics so everyone else can ignore it
this was a public service message
pseudo pilot
worn ember
you should pin that
upper flicker
then you'll have to explain it over and over
unless you pin the explanation too I guess
mild musk
When it pizza time
upper flicker
it's always pizza time
chrome quest
When I throw snow balls and eggs at people. It has no effect on them. Would this be a Bukkit, spigot, paper setting or would it be a plugin setting?
olive marlin
They did quite a while ago, didn't they?
I know some people here might be interested in it - Scaleway launched new VPS for 1.8Euro/month.
I might finally get around to setting up my VPN, if I'll be able to get my hands on one of those.
chrome quest
I want to be able to push people back slightly with snowballs. 😦
restive thicket
Think this is the quickest turnaround I've seen for Spigot 1.16.4.
twin lagoon
camotoy
restive thicket
Hullo!
mental meadow
oof
twin lagoon
aurora
mental meadow
apparently there was a shooting in Vienna
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/02/world/europe/vienna-austria-attack-shooter.html -- Vienna Shooting Turns City Center Into Scene of Chaos - The...: "1 hour ago ... Vienna Shooting Turns City Center Into Scene of Chaos. Several people were reported injured in the shooting Monday night in the heart..."
jesus
worn ember
whats a vienna?
olive marlin
I want to be able to push people back slightly with snowballs. 😦
@chrome quest there's plenty of plugins that add it back. Just search forsnowball spigot plugin.
One of the first results: https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/projectile-knockback
chrome quest
Thanks.
mental meadow
vienna is the capital of austria, not far away from where I live
upper flicker
yeah see you start to lose me when you collect blatantly identifiable info about people
upper flicker
is it all public too
limpid comet
that's insane
limpid comet
i'm not making drama
upper flicker
report it to bastian so he can clear that
upper flicker
yes
limpid comet
alright i'll go locate him
potent fossil
im not saying you are, im just saying dont, just go straight to staff
cosmic raft
lmao
upper flicker
he has a discord guild but I cant find the invite
cosmic raft
and people wonder why I would never use public plugins myself
vernal moth
ill ping it
limpid comet
im in it already
twin lagoon
why does bstats support that
upper flicker
bstats has APIs to let you make custom charts
usually thats used for good, and its awesome that its there
unfortunately, it can also be used for bad
not sure the author even fully understood what they were doing
if you actually wanted that data, this is the wrong to get it
minor badge
good night Z uwu
upper flicker
well, wanting that data is itself not great
limpid comet
oh for sure
limpid comet
but i assume it's coming from a place of "ooh i wanna see what servers are running my plugin epic win!"
minor badge
paper is almost 1.16.4 ready
limpid comet
goodnight proxi
twin lagoon
wat
worn ember
bstats is rather mediocre at best tbh
limpid comet
yeah wtf it's real
worn ember
was kinda dissapointed when i implemented it yesterday
limpid comet
why are they saying that?
upper flicker
they're saying ordering from anyone is better than not ordering
vernal moth
who wants to play 1.16.4 lab rat and try to run it? lol
limpid comet
i will
upper flicker
its just wrapped in a lot of goodwill marketing
potent fossil
"pls help us not go bankrupt plzzzz guys plz, revive...guys?"
potent fossil
why :'(
upper flicker
Im a lot more worried about my local places than I am mcdonalds or BK
cosmic raft
you change your name
limpid comet
do you want me to spin up a .4 instance?
worn pasture
or do yourself a favour and don't order fast food lol
potent fossil
YOU CHANGED MY NAME
vernal moth
kash/z, can you merge https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/4726 ?
vernal moth
so that we have all 1.16.4 stuff in one branch?
potent fossil
i didn't do this
you commented about my name and suddenly it was this
so look @ mod logs
upper flicker
I dont think that debug flag even works
cosmic raft
ah I see who did it
unreal quarry
i like that ad @cosmic raft, but have you seen the new doritos ad? thats a whole other level
upper flicker
but ye probably better that it at least match the real package revision
potent fossil
fixed
cosmic raft
link it billy
potent fossil
WAT!
minor badge
its just a thing someone PRs every release
potent fossil
ok fine
unreal quarry
@cosmic raft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-CqFBYfrdI
minor badge
😎
cosmic raft
the "simp" meme is getting annoying anyhow
vernal moth
pretty sure it does Z, somebody always complains when we forget to update it
upper flicker
reaaaaally?
minor badge
its always the same guy too
potent fossil
eh watever
upper flicker
but ok
vernal moth
minor badge
I have write but its protected
upper flicker
sec
minor badge
I'm not admin, so I can't bypass protections either
upper flicker
we told you to work on that proxi jeez
minor badge
im trying 😡
upper flicker
why is all of of progress protected
that's an explicit rule someone wouldve had to have added
upper flicker
it might matter if we didnt trust dev team
vernal moth
they don't trust us proxi!
upper flicker
find it a lil hard to believe we'd ever promote people we distrusted that much
vernal moth
man I can't type
minor badge
i'll bribe you z
upper flicker
I deleted that specific rule
someone may come and add it back later after bitching at me about it
we'll see
waxen panther
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
minor badge
hopefully we'll take use of that once 1.16.5 1.17 drops
waxen panther
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
upper flicker
brocc what are you hmmming about
worn pasture
cosmic raft
What shall I eat
quasi valley
consume @woven otter
woven otter
@quasi valley 
kneny is a traitor
consume kneny
consume Z because he's literally a taco
quasi valley
what no that’s illegal
cosmic raft
lol
upper flicker
you cant prove anything
quasi valley
but can you disprove it, z?
woven otter
yes exactly z
golden gust
a cannibal taco?
woven otter
checkmate z
quasi valley
cat raised a good point tho
woven otter
well it's a diversion
quasi valley
but would otherwise make z even more evil
upper flicker
eat more ducc
woven otter
eat more tacc
unreal quarry
What shall I eat
@cosmic raft baconator. Get 2, and eat the other for me since I cant
upper flicker
Billy's recovery is literally just him counting the days until he can get another baconator
cant even argue with it, good for him
cosmic raft
@unreal quarry too late
I ordered poutine
@minor badge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvqf8Z13PU
minor badge
borb
vernal moth
literally worse than a cat
upper flicker
birb must think its a cat
worn ember
birds love to watch things fall, as cats just like to be assholes
excuse me, i'm not an asshole
limber knotBOT
hey ded can you search how many messages I have sent on this discord
next wind
have to be on desktop
vernal moth
ye
limber knotBOT
ty
for some reason even though I have deleted about 6,000 messages they still show up in my app & on mobile, but not on the discord.com in-browser version
even after force refreshing and stuff
vernal moth
why would you delete old messages?
limber knotBOT
did you clear your app's cache/data?
people take things out of context
fuck people 👀
I assumed doing CTRL+R cleared the cache.. hmm
fallen oracle
It's going down in the search.
worn ember
imagine caring about what people say
limber knotBOT
I am also getting a 404 on about every 4-5th message
limber knotBOT
I have sent too many messages in here
worn ember
i really need to find something better to do than spam paper all day
waxen panther
yes you do
limber knotBOT
it did make my life better when I stopped doing that
worn ember
but i need the smarts of people here
waxen panther
no you just get to laugh at ded
limpid comet
brocc 
upper flicker
you mostly get to watch people rant at eachother
waxen panther
bluely 
worn ember
he says while ranting about everyone ranting
worn ember
are there alternatives to bstats?
formal turret
i get to watch people talk about programming about see that they're on a whole different level
upper flicker
shakes DarkEye
limpid comet
wtf i have 6.5k messages here
upper flicker
It's rants all the way down!
limpid comet
i've been here for like a month
cringe
how can you tell when you joined a discord
8/14/2020
formal turret
4/23/20
worn ember
pretty sure i joined before that though and left at some point
worn ember
no, or might have been that most people from paper were also in CV at the time
codevision
best not to mention it too much lul
barty stop botting
limber knotBOT
worn ember
now it looks like i'm talking to myself
limber knotBOT
dont worry IRC never forgets
worn ember
bruh i legit have a coke addiction, i cant go a day without it popping up 20x in my head
limber knotBOT
limber knotBOT
yup
worn ember
unless it crashes
fallen oracle
Isn't that considered a self-bot?
limber knotBOT
a script?
upper flicker
is me using auto hotkey a self bot
limber knotBOT
yes
upper flicker
well there you go!
limber knotBOT
runs
upper flicker
but discord likely doesnt care as long as you arent being mean
fallen oracle
I mean does it use your token to auth into the Discord API
limber knotBOT
indeed
worn ember
limber knotBOT
I feel like the question is: does it do stuff that you couldn't do manually anyways in the Vanilla client 👀
well if they delete my account then my messages are deleted anyway
win win
fallen oracle
I don't believe so
worn ember
and we get rid of barty
limber knotBOT
I wonder if they need to delete message if you request all data deletion
i would imagine
fallen oracle
When Simple got his last account banned, I could still search all his old messages.
worn ember
not really
limber knotBOT
I would assume no
worn ember
if its not associated with your account they dont have to
limber knotBOT
you would have to point out specific personal idendifiable data in the messages for them to delete them
upper flicker
think like a judge, find some other tangentially related irl thing and try and compare it
if you completely misunderstand it thats okay, 50/50 they will too
limber knotBOT
the internet and most judges do not mix well
worn ember
they just convert it to "deleted user ####"
i have a few of those in my friendslist lol
i can still see their messages
limber knotBOT
if you go back like 2 years a good chunk of messages are sent by deleted users
limber knotBOT
yeah but could you even tag that message to who sent it originally anymore?
maybe if someone said their name to them in the same convo
worn ember
then theoretically they'd only need to delete those messages
i need to write an essay about gdpr by the end of th week
i'll be able to tell you more later lol
limber knotBOT
you'll probably know more than the people who wrote the GDPR
worn ember
i already had a 2h presentation on gdpr but i was asleep most of it
who would give a 2h lecture at 8pm
and there were like 2-3h of presentations before that
so yeah obviously i didnt pay much attention
ashen cliff
Complain anyway.
hollow plaza
Does anyone know of a Minecraft Tessellator rendering tutorial?
limber knotBOT
you probably want to ask in a fabric/forge community
hollow plaza
Alright
ashen cliff
Aether Engine.
vernal moth
its already there https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/tree/progress/1.16.4
leaden oxideBOT
lowexer#1118 was kicked | eta
worn ember
can we have the bot autokick on eta?
unkempt drift
the #772897111368794113 channel doesn't have an obnoxious category so its not as obvious it exists
formal turret
it's lacking emojis too
potent fossil
its almost as if this is the rule every single version and it never changes
but,,, hey. what do i know
potent fossil
golden gust
passes said paper to simp
potent fossil
mfw getting annoyed with people being absolute scum of the earth on a daily basis is being "triggered"
my bad
worn ember
i mean, u gonna be annoyed a lot then
limber knotBOT
btw. on a completely unrelated note: Twitch reverted the name of the Minecraft category to just say "Minecraft" again
limber knotBOT
now we have https://www.igdb.com/games/minecraft and https://www.igdb.com/games/minecraft--1 xD
guess which one is the real one: https://is.papr.best/fLMAz71X.png 👀
formal turret
the first because it doesn't have a --1?
limber knotBOT
in the screenshot
winged panther
right one is da badrock
formal turret
oh you're on irc so you don't see the embed i guess
limber knotBOT
yeah didn't think about the previous links spoiling it :/
cosmic raft
so uh
just looked in on twitch for the first time in a while
... are ads not blockable anymore?
potent fossil
nope they integrated ads into the stream with something vaguely similar to a MITM
cute, right?
winged panther
the only site i see can't be blocked is paypal
limber knotBOT
kashike: they are, update your ad blocker
winged panther
this can block so much
limber knotBOT
ewwww
cosmic raft
ublock is up to date, phoenix
limber knotBOT
don't advertise scummy ad blockers
cosmic raft
there's just no way to do it afaics
limber knotBOT
are you using the dev version?
potent fossil
It literally blocks the streamer's actual stream and overrides it with a separate ad stream.
limber knotBOT
I have them blocked on kodi and my phone so yes, there is a way lol
potent fossil
Did that change?
potent fossil
it overrides the streamer's stream and injects an ad into it
limber knotBOT
it's an EXT-X-DISCONTINUITY request inside the stream "playlist", to block it you just have to ignore that
cosmic raft
potent fossil
hm ok
limber knotBOT
I'm actually surprised I'm not getting ads on my phone but I assume it's due to me using an old twitch app version without support of it
I guess I haven't watched streamers I don't have subscribed on my PC yet lol
seems to be broken for me too :/
odd robin
cosmic raft
no
winged panther
no
potent fossil
o.o
cosmic raft
ok
limber knotBOT
just use kodi and https://github.com/Phoenix616/Twitch-on-Kodi/tree/no-ads 👀
twin lagoon
co-co-owner
potent fossil
i believe it
cosmic raft
winged panther
just use kodi and https://github.com/Phoenix616/Twitch-on-Kodi/tree/no-ads 👀
phoenix why your patreon is closed ?
limber knotBOT
it's not?
winged panther
i'm support 5 to 6 patreons but i can't buy you pizza
for real
i see your recent post and still
when i go to pledge page it's say wrong
limber knotBOT
it's clearly not closed: https://minecraft.ceo/⛏/fK2EwP6P.png
limber knotBOT
well what error does it say?
winged panther
w8 a sec
💔 Your payment to Phoenix616 failed. Double check your credit card info or call your bank to see what’s going on.
potent fossil
so basically you're broke
winged panther
but
slim nymph
you know sending people one off payments through friends and family is better than patreon, patreon has more fees 😛
slim nymph
or use github sponsors since it has no fees
winged panther
you know sending people one off payments through friends and family is better than patreon, patreon has more fees 😛
true i did support paper many times 1 by 1 $
slim nymph
github sponsors = patreon for devs
twin lagoon
ngl have yet to donate to any mc project / author
actually that's a lie i gave mini a sixpack of beers
potent fossil
michael stingy
slim nymph
apparenttly I had a really shitty season on my cast iron, as i heated it on high and it fucking burnt the seasoning off
had to cook tonights in a normal pan!
winged panther
when i was in my dorm we over cock and burned so much stuff
golden gust
it's cast iron
winged panther
we cock like dums
golden gust
It's not seasoning as much as stuff you sprinkle on, but, I guess more, the burnin of the juices, etc into the pan
zealous wedge
seasoning the metal
golden gust
it's basically oil/fats which have carbonized into the surface of the metal
zealous wedge
to make it non-stick and all that
cosmic raft
why not just buy a non-stick pan?
zealous wedge
oh yeah @cosmic raft you excited abt them raising prices again
cast irons hold heat really nicely
cosmic raft
raising prices of what
zealous wedge
Netflix
golden gust
- nasty chemicals which flake off if you use a proper spatula which doesn't flex when you pick up a burger
cosmic raft
wat
cosmic raft
I see nothing about it changing zml
golden gust
They had a bit of a leaving exodus last I heard
zealous wedge
I got an email like last week and it was on the radio today
slim nymph
@cosmic raft seasoning is just a weird word cast iron people came up with. its a polymerized layer of hardened oil to make the iron surface smooth. typically has nothing to do with flavor lol
zealous wedge
I'm in Canada too lol
slim nymph
but yeah it sears so much better
cosmic raft
I got no email as far as I can see zml
and nothing on netflix website about a higher price
zealous wedge
weird
cosmic raft
just 13.99 like normal
slim nymph
i read they are increasing prices yeah
zealous wedge
mine's gonna become 14.99
slim nymph
its staggered iirc
zealous wedge
yikes
slim nymph
i sadly have the highest tier for 4k 😦
worn pasture
they raised prices in Australia too but not the premium plan which I have so 
slim nymph
plus i share my acct with family
zealous wedge
oh I just torrent if I want 4k
golden gust
w0w
slim nymph
fuck that, thats a lot of drive space
zealous wedge
they don't usually stream 4k to pc soooo
slim nymph
i couldnt imagine the file size of a dolby vision 4k file
worn pasture
you can stream 4k on pc if you use the windows store app
golden gust
Depends on the encoding, etc, can ez be a few GB
slim nymph
im sure dolby vision adds a huge addon cost
golden gust
biggest one I've seen so far is like 7ish GB for a movie
zealous wedge
most movies are like 70gb
golden gust
ooof
zealous wedge
bluray rips and such