hmmm
#general
potent fossil
must be a transformer, but i dont see smoke or fire. my power isnt out, but the other side of the street's is
was loud even with my noise cancellers on so
golden gust
oof
limpid comet
oh lol
worn ember
transformer getting ddosed
left swift
Test
meager tusk
@twin lagoon 
potent fossil
i have had a metric fuckton of coffee today and im still tired
twin lagoon
mossy vessel
mighty storm
oh we on 2021 now?
potent fossil
inb4 some weird modded/outdated server not responding with correct packets
ashen cliff
INB4 1.8 with ProtocolLib + ViaVersion.
potent fossil
ashen cliff
We really should just ban everyone connected to ViaVersion.
potent fossil
starting with kenny
left swift
Unflip kenny
golden gust
I'd ban him just coz he's Kenny, tbf
potent fossil
double ban him
upper flicker
look at all this kenny abuse
potent fossil
for being kenny and affiliated with vv
golden gust
I vote that we also catapult Myles into space
potent fossil
wont work
ashen cliff
Musk would approve regardless.
potent fossil
i've catapulted you into space like 500 times and you always came back
worn ember
its the drag of his ass cheeks
golden gust
Backups
left swift
Boomerang
worn ember
boomer rang
potent fossil
:^)
left swift
potent fossil
well for one we dont support outdated software (1.12).
however, the issue is that your proxy or server is not sending correct packets
golden gust
I mean
left swift
Did you try installing viafastforward
golden gust
You're pulling the plugin list from the working server...
left swift
Or viabacktothefuture
golden gust
And with some of those plugins walks out
left swift
limpid comet
wtf
oh there goes the plugins list
what the hell is the point of this when jdbc exists aleeady
ashen cliff
As always, IRC does not forget.
limpid comet
right :p
potent fossil
"oh, you dont support outdated??.... let me just...remove that picture....there im not running outdated software...of course i would not do that, plz help now"
worn ember
sql ibrary
potent fossil
there we go
ashen cliff
Find 1 good plugin on that list.
next wind
World edit and world guard, but thats about it
limpid comet
yes but why would you ever need an sql library plugin for Minecraft when java already handles SQL interactions fantastically...
ServerlistMOTD
skUtilities
limpid comet
i haven't had a problem with it when using alongside jdbi :p
limpid comet
they're cool guys, they have SuperLobby
potent fossil
how can they dmca unrelated source code that simply makes it possible to download content
it doesnt host the infringing content...
void void
We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample
uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’
copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit
A hereto. For example, as shown on Exhibit A, the source code
expressly suggests its use to copy and/or distribute the following
copyrighted works owned by our member companies:
• Icona Pop – I Love It (feat. Charli XCX) [Official Video], owned
by Warner Music Group
• Justin Timberlake – Tunnel Vision (Explicit), owned by Sony
Music Group
• Taylor Swift – Shake it Off, owned/exclusively licensed by
Universal Music Group
i see
void void
it will
void void
inb4 banned from discord because of mentioning youtube-dl
potent fossil
seriously fuck RIAA
potent fossil
nice.
void void
wtf with LuckPerms on PaperBukkit, I have all permission with default group (I have checker in editor and user info).
mossy vessel
🍿
mossy vessel
PaperBukkit
void void
yes
mossy vessel
mossy vessel
🌪️
potent fossil
@limpid comet you live in tornado alley? :p
potent fossil
have you never heard that term
potent fossil
then you dont kek
limpid comet
southern ontario
so as close as you could be to that region without being that region
potent fossil
seems like you might actually, due to climate change the alley is extending north to canada
:^)
gg
mossy vessel
zimple
potent fossil
nmf
limpid comet
potent fossil
why are you pinging random people
mossy vessel
r8 mah pl0gins
ashen cliff
Random.
potent fossil
nah this is the dude running outdated software and being surprised that his proxy is fucked
potent fossil
uh
limpid comet
potent fossil
<@&748618676189528155> see his quote
ashen cliff
Well. To be fair, only made fun of plugins that I help "moderate" and/or committed to.
solemn tundra
just 17 plugins?
mossy vessel
zimple mods are asleep
potent fossil
clearly
cosmic raft
I don't see who they are quoting
potent fossil
no, he misused quote
ashen cliff
mossy vessel
Isn't it like morning for you
cosmic raft
?ban @void void https://papermc.io/community-guidelines §1, discriminatory language
leaden oxideBOT
trickpl#5799 was banned | https://papermc.io/community-guidelines §1, discriminatory language
potent fossil
oh
cosmic raft
yes, sneezing while typing makes it difficult
potent fossil
bless u
cunning raft
woah kash wrote the ban message in blue
cosmic raft
huh?
potent fossil
its a link u fuk
potent fossil
bruh
cunning raft
Was supposed to be funny haha
limpid comet
jroy shut up
next wind
woah he got 1 simoleon for getting banned?
cunning raft
woah bluely told me to shut up?
cosmic raft
cunning raft
community guidelines?
potent fossil
i miss picard
next wind
didnt they start a new picard show?
mossy vessel
Aren't yall too young for Star Trek
potent fossil
yea i watched the whole thing, pissed me off
limpid comet
why what's up with it
potent fossil
spoilers
next wind
|| use the spoiler tag then ||
potent fossil
no, i dont want to spoil the plot even with them
if you want to find out, watch it, or go read memoryalpha i guess
mossy vessel
I find it ok, but really not what it used to be
cosmic raft
mossy vessel
There is also a Star Trek series on Netflix rn
mossy vessel
wat
potent fossil
kind of like rick and morty lol
mossy vessel
Discovery is not cartoon stuff
potent fossil
are you talking about ST: Lower Decks
oh
Discovery is good
although all the modern star trek is just...different
ST used to have fully contained stories, each episode would introduce and wrap up except on occasion for the two-part specials
Now, it's one story per season with cliffhangers every episode
And...that, I do not like
mossy vessel
Idm tho
limpid comet
i think tv as a whole has changed
now the concept of "binging" from streaming providers lets shows do that kinda stuff
potent fossil
Anyway I was talking about this one, it's official Star Trek but it's an adult cartoon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Lower_Decks
mossy vessel
But one episode per week kills me internally
limpid comet
ah r&m writer
potent fossil
Instead of being "one of the leading ships" it's one of the shittiest ships who get the shittiest jobs revolving around the shittiest crew members
That's ST: LD generally, good laughs
20 min eps
mossy vessel
I don't watch stuff with a rating lower than 7.0, always got dissatisfied in the past.
potent fossil
lol
mossy vessel
Dunno why, but with shows 7.0 upwards I'm always fine
potent fossil
I imagine the low ratings are Trekkie purists who ree "OMG ITS NOT AUTHENTIC STAR TREK SPIRIT....HORRIBLE...."
limpid comet
i just started watching a random anime so i can't pick up another show rn
but when i finish that, then picard, i'll check out ld
mossy vessel
Just watch stuff parallel
I gave up on just watching one show since there are so many releases I want to watch straight after release lmao
I binged Ratched at work today
worn ember
i havent found any interesting show in a while
last one i found good that i watched was breaking bad
mossy vessel
Cuz I read the book back in school years ago
limpid comet
terrible
potent fossil
mossy vessel
Am I the only one who finds this weird
mossy vessel
Don't you cough into other's face?!?!??
viral hornet
only @quasi valley 🥺
minor badge
isnt coughing into your elbow like an instinct to others?
i cant imagine not coughing into my elbow, it just aint smth i control anymore lol
mossy vessel
same
left swift
Coughing into elbow is about as common as using turn signals when you're driving
mossy vessel
no lol
left swift
Some people just dont do it
potent fossil
dont need turn signals in my city, nobody does it, it's just like free for all
left swift
And some only do it half the time
I've seen people turn their signals on AFTER they've completed turning lol
Idk man
mossy vessel
I did that during my license but I simply forgot it on my way to work lol
potent fossil
lol yea, kinda like "o btw i just did that so..."
mossy vessel
I think my driving skills were the best during my license time, it just got worse after lmao
left swift
I propose every 5 years until you retire you must retake the practical exam and after retirement yearly
Vote me for president of driving 2021
potent fossil
i actually ranted yesterday on a local FB group about that lol. i was driving to the shop down the street and this lady as old as fucking fossil fuel nearly causes a 3-4 car pileup because she whips out of the parking lot without looking and without right of way
left swift
Yuuup
potent fossil
i swear to god she was as old as dirt, should not be driving if they're so old they cant remember how to fucking drive
left swift
Old people are a hazard
true canyon
Time for an infringement on privacy - all cars must come equipped with a device that can observe how well you follow the rules of the road and it will randomly test you once a month with 10 seconds of advance notice!
mossy vessel
x-x
austere ivy
RIAA kinda sucks ngl
left swift
Must be installed and the user must not be informed for better results of infringing privacy
And sometimes records audio
potent fossil
oh, and she blared her horn at US for honking at HER for being a cunt
i swear to god
i hate old people
is geriophobia a thing
mossy vessel
some old man almost killed me a few years ago cuz they almost drove into me lmao
claimed they didn't see me
left swift
Idk if scared of them is the same as hating them
I drive on a side road when I get off work around dinner time and I drive by this restaurant that has specials for elderly
I swear I almost wreck there atleast 5 times a week cuz of them
I should probably drive home a different way
But where's the adventure in that
potent fossil
we need to make full towns solely for elderly people where they go to drive 5 mph and eat soup
mossy vessel
I just ignore em and drive by nowadays lol
left swift
That's the whole state of Florida
potent fossil
hard to ignore when they're cutting you off and nearly making you crash
it's not rare for me
this happens constantly
and im not speeding, i go the speed limit
they just dont remember how to drive
mossy vessel
speed limits are pepega over here so no biggie
potent fossil
point being im driving safe
left swift
For me soon all the elderly will leave for the southern states cuz Winter Is Coming
potent fossil
they're the ones fucking up
mossy vessel
Am currently expanding my license for bikes, it's fun ngl
potent fossil
im considering getting into motorcycles simply bc cheaper, when i transfer to uni ill be living at home to save on the $$$ cuz fuck the price of room & board, i need reliable transpo for that 60 minute daily commute
(30 there and back, give or take)
my car will die before i finish that degree kek
however, le danger
mossy vessel
It's pretty easy over here if you already have a license so I just decided to do it
potent fossil
i mean here you just have to go to the motorcycle school, get the cert, then pop over to the DMV and show them the cert and they hand you your license
however, it's dangerous here because car drivers dont care
they'll merge right into you or in front of you, or tailgate the fuck out of you
they dont even look
potent fossil
lots of motorcyclists die that way
dapper nacelle
alright my music streaming platform is live
upper flicker
yep, you just ride like everyone is out to kill you and use the throttle as an escape vector
dapper nacelle
mossy vessel
I probably wont replace my car by a bike, I need both or wont get a rid of the former during the winter lmao
upper flicker
and even then, you pretty much accept youre at more risk and live with that
dapper nacelle
how many months till the fbi will arrest me I wonder
mossy vessel
idk, I'm pretty happy with my current one
dapper nacelle
1 README.md
1 composer
1 composer.json
1 composer.lock
1 package-lock.json
1 package.json
1 private_html
1 symfony.lock
1 webpack.config.js
1 yarn.lock
2 public_ftp
3 bin
34 templates
49 config
83 public_html
97 src
114 assets
2339 var
11248 vendor
25439 node_modules
geez node_modules do be taking up inodes
potent fossil
welcome to nodejs
slim nymph
worrying about inodes
potent fossil
the fuck is https://api-platform.com/
slim nymph
not really, just raise the limit
potent fossil
did you write your api yourself, or just do some weird point and click setup
potent fossil
yeah im aware https://animusic.nl/api/docs i found it by looking at your response payload
what is api-platform
some api builder
twin lagoon
API Platform is a powerful but easy to use full stack framework dedicated to API-driven projects. It contains a PHP library to create fully featured APIs supporting industry-leading standards (JSON-LD and Hydra, GraphQL, OpenAPI...), provides ambitious JavaScript tooling to consume those APIs in a snap (admin, PWA and mobile app generators, hypermedia client...) and is shipped with a nice Docker and Kubernetes integration to develop and deploy instantly on the cloud.
dapper nacelle
basically that
dapper nacelle
you know orm annotations?
potent fossil
sure?
potent fossil
tf
dapper nacelle
yeah
potent fossil
i prefer more control but to each their own i guess...
dapper nacelle
well
there is a lot you can do
/**
* @ApiResource(
* security="is_granted('ROLE_USER')",
* collectionOperations={
* "get"={
* "normalization_context"={
* "groups"={"album:read", "album:collection:get"},
* },
* },
* },
* itemOperations={
* "get"={
* "normalization_context"={
* "groups"={"album:read", "album:item:get", "songlist:get"},
* },
* },
* },
* )
*
* @ApiFilter(PropertyFilter::class)
* @ApiFilter(SearchFilter::class, properties={
* "title"="partial",
* })
*
* @ORM\Entity(repositoryClass="App\Repository\AlbumRepository")
*/
class Album implements OrderedSongListInterface, AssetKeyHolderInterface
you can add api filters, set serialization groups and handle security
potent fossil
interesting
dapper nacelle
/**
* @Groups({
* "album:read",
* "song:collection:get",
* "playlist:item:get",
* })
*
* @ORM\ManyToOne(targetEntity=Artist::class, inversedBy="albums", fetch="LAZY")
* @ORM\JoinColumn(nullable=false)
*
* @Assert\NotBlank
*/
private $artist;
literally everything is handled by annotations
the notblank is for the form builder
dapper nacelle
well
you can't always use the orm
public function buildForm(FormBuilderInterface $builder, array $options): void
{
$builder
->add('artist', TextType::class, [
'label' => 'Artist id',
'invalid_message' => 'Could not find an artist with this id',
])
->add('title')
->add('releaseDate', DateType::class, [
'widget' => 'single_text',
])
->add('type', ChoiceType::class, [
'choices' => [
'Single' => 'Single',
'Album' => 'Album',
'EP' => 'EP',
],
])
...
yeah the music stats website thingy
dapper nacelle
music stats?
mighty storm
what?
dapper nacelle
you were talking about a music stats website thing
dapper nacelle
oh no I simply cloned spotify
mighty storm
dang sounds illegal
dapper nacelle
this is some of the interesting code that went into it
I mean, its for private use so it'll be fine
mighty storm
hmm
mighty storm
leaked emails pog
mighty storm
1 to 22, where did 2-21 go
dapper nacelle
those were 20 test users
mighty storm
ah
dapper nacelle
that the server auto generated when I ran the dumy data script
pseudo pilot
someone help the professor said today's lecture will have a super difficult problem
that'll take all lecture to solve
mighty storm
9+10
mighty storm
not enough information lmao
pseudo pilot
we have to model the situation
potent fossil
well, i guess just make up variables and solve it all algebraicly
pseudo pilot
and make assumptions
potent fossil
let x be the width of the river, let y be the flow rate, let z be the dog's velocity... and so on...
then just solve it lol :/
dumb
pseudo pilot
the professor said it's much much more complicated than that
much much much much more
potent fossil
why...
mighty storm
sounds like theyre overcomplicating it
potent fossil
well, ima take a nap but ping me l8r with why it's so difficult
i assume a diffeq will pop up in there somewhere
pseudo pilot
it will
btw this situation is much more complicated than you'd think
like how the depth of the river affects the river's velocity due to friction
so the vector field in the river is nonconstant
along side eddy currents, buoyancy factors etc.
left swift
Doesn't seem complicated if you already know how to figure it out
potent fossil
well i mean yea, gotta take all the variables into account
pseudo pilot
but rn we're ignoring all of that and doing just the normal math
potent fossil
alright nappy time 
limber knotBOT
@SmallSansSerif it works for me?
cunning raft
youtube-dl got nuked
pseudo pilot
with the owner as the (0,0) and Y up and X right
cunning raft
By RITTA too
pseudo pilot
and we ended up with a nonlinear non seperable differential equation which describes the path the dog takes
pseudo pilot
this is what the slope field looks like for the DE we got @potent fossil where k is greater than 1
the equation is dx/dy =
where k = river velocity / dog velocity
anyways lmao we ran out of time to solve the problem
hollow plaza
Is it safe to use Geyser on a production server?
twin lagoon
mineplex doesn't use it
mineplex uses their own translation layer
i don't think i'd consider geyser prod ready just yet until they've implemented every feature
twin lagoon
i don't think it is, did they mention that somewhere?
figured brian (used to work on mineplex up until like 2 months ago) would've mentioned that sooner or later
cunning raft
I've heard that from multiple people who worked there
hollow plaza
Hm alright
hollow plaza
I just tested it on my test server and it seemed to work well but for some reason dead coral didn't appear
cunning raft
not dead coral!
restive thicket
Dead coral didn't appear?
hollow plaza
Yeah
restive thicket
That is weird and also a highly specific thing to notice missing.
hollow plaza
I was testing dupes in that same server world a while ago so that's why there was dead coral
restive thicket
Gotcha.
If you're able to provide replication steps, might be a good idea to put that one on our GitHub issue tracker.
hollow plaza
Alright, I'll try do that
restive thicket
Thanks.
hollow plaza
Strange, it worked now... since the world is a few versions old maybe DFU did something and Geyser wasn't able to translate it. But I can't recreate it now.
restive thicket
Interesting.
twin lagoon
shell vine
viral hornet
dry crystal
Can someone pass me a download link for 1.12.2?
dry crystal
Only appears 15 and 1.16
dry crystal
Check legacy section @dry crystal
@vestal jasper tanks
viral hornet
@vestal jasper wot
vestal jasper
Hi
mighty storm
™️
fallen oracle
Could I get a few random topics please. Preferably PG rated.
potent fossil
huh
fallen oracle
Smh
I have to give a presentation in an hour and I need ideas on what to write about
potent fossil
what even
limber knotBOT
on what topic?
potent fossil
is this an impromptu assignment or did you procrastinate
fallen oracle
It's an impropmt. All of the people in my house did shots and we have to write a presentation now
potent fossil
yeah go ahead and talk about why all the people in your house are fucking weirdos for randomly doing impromptu speeches
fallen oracle
I totally should
potent fossil
yes
broken girder
quick question: is it normal to make your servers behind your waterfall proxy offline mode?
potent fossil
yes
broken girder
why? eli5
potent fossil
because waterfall is the one who authenticates and forwards connections
you leave waterfall in online mode
broken girder
how does one prevent players from directly connecting to the other servers?
potent fossil
you're meant to set up a firewall so only your waterfall instance can talk to your MC servers
the firewall is supposed to deny all other connections
broken girder
i see
broken girder
this under the presumption that you are on your own box tho unfortunately
nvm
i didnt read far enough
ignore me
potent fossil
you prob should not be running a network on shared hosting, however yes there are alts at the bottom
broken girder
you are probably right and traditionally I would never
however the host I am with doesnt oversell and i do have some dedicated resources
for me it has shown to be the bridge between where we are now and a truly dedicated box
potent fossil
not my server ¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent fossil
i mean, it's not my place to say that you can or cannot do it, it's not my server
but i personally wouldnt
if it works for you great
broken girder
you can give a good recommendation tho
i respect your opinion and i traditionally agree with you
limber knotBOT
if you are at the point of setting up a network then you are not at the point of using shared hosts anymore. get at least a VPS or a cheap dedicated server
broken girder
thanks for the help I really appreciate the link
limber knotBOT
(imo obviously)
broken girder
well in a sense I already have...
my host has let me allocate the resources I pay for amongst my servers
potent fossil
you typically need something with root access, if you have 'dedicated resources' from the shared host just have them set up a firewall for you
broken girder
and no one else shares my cores on the processor
potent fossil
assuming you have control over the entire node you're on
limber knotBOT
as long as you don't control the firewall or can run stuff on localhost it just wont cut it for a network
potent fossil
(which is essentially a managed dedi)
broken girder
i don't know how they have managed that and they are running it off of localhost
potent fossil
but yeah, staying with shared hosting where you dont have full control and trying to run a network w/o a firewall is foolish at best
the plugin might work, but you never know. maybe it has a bug, and then someone sets up their own waterfall and takes over your network ezpz
broken girder
i do appreciate the insight and I may end up eating my words
worn ember
when you say to yourself you'll be productive and instead waste your time on dota and lose all your matches
broken girder
lmao
potent fossil
is it one of the new ones without the crazy wires going overwhere
i hardly use my rift for that reason, it's so annoying to use
potent fossil
i mean I've got one wire as well but it's still hell
cosmic raft
I have a leg between my desk and bed
worn ember
why not put it in the living room?
cosmic raft
Because I don't live alone, any my desktop is in my room?
fallen oracle
Ended up writing about wearing masks
potent fossil
smh
worn ember
lame
fallen oracle
I only had 15 minutes
worn ember
shouldve written how minecraft players are dum
potent fossil
even better reason to write about why its so fucking weird that you are all, as a family (?), giving impromptu speeches to each other
worn ember
while doing shots
waxen panther
yes boss!
#paper-help and send a timings
yes boss
#paper-help and they might redirect you to #waterfall-help
either way if you're not sure start at paper help
it's much more active
broken girder
hamcio that probably is a GC issue
broken girder
anyone familiar with how to setup a fallback server for waterfall
wild fern
I don't understand bots on this server lmao
zealous wedge
<@&748618676189528155> yikes
potent fossil
wow...
sharp sentinel
?ban @void void transphobia
leaden oxideBOT
bootyhole#5634 was banned | transphobia
wild fern
F
stiff yarrow
?ban @dreamy hatch transphobia
leaden oxideBOT
I can't find user @dreamy hatch.
zealous wedge
too slow nossr 😦
potent fossil
not even an F moment.
wild fern
Oops
stiff yarrow
Mobile 😣
wild fern
I don't understand bots on this server lmao
potent fossil
wdym bots
pseudo solstice
potent fossil
yep
wild fern
Woah
short yarrow
Man experiencing tech debt sucks. I'm working on an angular project that wasn't touched until recently (before that it was touched 2 years ago) and now upgrading any dependency pretty much breaks the project
potent fossil
yeah well that's JS for you
short yarrow
everything moves so quick especially angular
didn't really think 2 years was that long, but guess it is
potent fossil
in JS world 2 years is 80 years
viral hornet
Woah the trash is around today
mighty storm
yeah im here
small spade
where can i get like ultra cheap us unmanaged vps? tryna setup a little openvpn server for netflix
cosmic raft
I dunno, google it
runic shale
Hello 😄
potent fossil
hi
tired heath
sup
runic shale
Nothing much been busy with coding
runic shale
I code my own Minecraft Plugins and I use github, html, css, php
thats all
and Java
tired heath
Well sounds like a webcomponent showing some Minecraft related data
potent fossil
nice
runic shale
I am planning to work for Mojang in the future
potent fossil
lol
tired heath
Nice ambition
runic shale
Thx
potent fossil
tired heath
I am planing to finally decide whitch design partterns I gonna use for restructering, what interfaces and if dependency injection, this weekend. Not such a big target
but hast to be done
runic shale
oh wait I also use this
small spade
I am doing mostly notejs for teamspeak bot plugins and some backend design
small spade
team speak is nice but I like to work by myself mostly
coding isnt working by yourself. i would say at least 50% of my code is copy pasted stuff from stackoverflow that just somehow works
runic shale
nice
I am trying to also make a Network Server run off of bungeecord through dedicated machines
small spade
yeah i got multiple servers here and there
runic shale
Yep
runic shale
gn
zealous wedge
lol
potent fossil
ur quite the conversation
waxen panther
with you sure xoxo
potent fossil
idk what that means but fuk u
runic shale
potent fossil
oh ok then 💋 @waxen panther
waxen panther
🫂 🫂 🫂
viscid parrot
hi
potent fossil
hi
viscid parrot
ew
quick harness
I have a weird question. Is it normal for boys to sit down and pee?
potent fossil
Not sure why that's a question suitable for this Discord, but sure why not.
quick harness
My co-worker is telling me I’m weird for not standing up.
potent fossil
Well tell your co-worker to fuck off, it's none of their business?
Btw, if your company is at all normal, that's sexual harassment. Report it to HR.
That person will be fired.
brave cliff
better aim less noise
quick harness
Exactly.
brave cliff
true that
brave cliff
now back to mc stuff ahaha
potent fossil
Please and thanks
brave cliff
Im using a bungee network, and in the paper.yml, under velocity-support. Should the online-mode be true or false?
potent fossil
False. Velocity is another proxy
If you're using Bungee, you're not using Velocity
brave cliff
i see
brave cliff
oh?
brave cliff
what exacly is velocity?
potent fossil
its nice
potent fossil
custom proxy
brave cliff
ait*
quick harness
I’m using waterfall on my proxy
potent fossil
you can find the velocity disc in #community-guilds
brave cliff
Thanks man, im trying to get the network as secure as posible. so i dont know what would be better haha
potent fossil
velocity is a friend of paper, and also it's pretty much the best proxy out there these days
not to say bungee is bad
brave cliff
There is alot to learn and get in to
potent fossil
but velocity is a+
brave cliff
ill read up on it then
peak dirge
Bungee is legacy software; Velocity is much better
brave cliff
any tips on proxy securety?
brave cliff
Tips on setting up the firewall?
golden gust
are all the servers running on the same machine?
brave cliff
correct
golden gust
bind all the servers to 127.0.0.1
if using ptero, bind them to the ptero network interface
No reason to expose the backend servers to the public
brave cliff
bind all the servers to 127.0.0.1
@golden gust in server.properties? or??
golden gust
yes
potent fossil
that stops somebody from spinning up a bungee and using it to get admin privs on your network, it's necessary
(or velocity for that matter)
brave cliff
had one dude joining with 50-60 diffrent names
so ive been trying to fix this for a few days haha
before we try to scale the server even more
potent fossil
your proxy isnt in offline mode, is it?...
brave cliff
no
potent fossil
ok then likely, if the backend servers werent protected, he just found your backend port (since IP is same for all in this case) and ran an offline proxy himself
that'll do it
hence why you gotta protect them backend servers
brave cliff
Well hopefully it stops him now
potent fossil
it will if you block off those backend servers by binding them to 127.0.0.1
then his separate proxy will no longer work
brave cliff
Mind taking a look on my server.properties to see if ive done it correctly?
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
potent fossil
go ahead
potent fossil
yep its correct
brave cliff
Thanks man. i took over as developer on this mc server when the last one quit, i didnt really know what i got my self into. but its fun learning new thing. and challenging my self
potent fossil
Good luck
brave cliff
ty
potent fossil
If you ever move to multiple machines it gets more complicated but since its all on 1 you're fine for now
brave cliff
Even if we move to multiple computers its still gonna be on the same network. not sure if that makes it easier or not
potent fossil
multiple computers = different backend ips, same problem
brave cliff
I see
potent fossil
cant just bind to 127.0.0.1 in that case
brave cliff
Thats a problem i dont have to worry about yet hahaha
potent fossil
correct
brave cliff
Why havent i gone to this server for problems earlier.... I get answers real quick here
potent fossil
well, to be clear, we wont help you if you're not running paper
but as long as you are, you're welcome
brave cliff
Im running paper man. now i will check out velosity.
brave cliff
I ran out of beer yesterday ahahha
golden gust
if you have a private network, it's not really a massive issue so long as those backend servers aren't exposed publically to the network
brave cliff
I will find out if this guy keeps trying to join. if he never joins again then i guess its solved
potent fossil
i mean he'll prob just switch tactics like spamming or griefing
but you're pretty much stopping him from bypassing the proxy
brave cliff
he joined, first thing he did was try to act as someone else. but i reconised the way he chatted and talked. and he always wanted to tp all the players. and he didnt hide his fly hacks. Got tierd of banning him after 50 times
potent fossil
yea, they're annoying
as long as they cant somehow get op on the actual paper server tho, then that's about all it is: annoying
brave cliff
yeah was afraid of that, but he never got it
whats the diffrence between waterfall and velosity? i saw waterfall on the paper site
potent fossil
waterfall is paper's version of bungee
velocity is completely unique new software
if you can, choose velocity
brave cliff
will do. its probably worth the work
potent fossil
it is
brave cliff
Im building up the servers and network from scratch. Cus i didnt like the old system i made, so i dont mid the extra work. aslong as it benefits me in the long run
brave cliff
Should i have support forge on?
golden gust
if you're not using forge, no
brave cliff
ok
untold copper
GUYS
A BUNCH OF GUYS FROM HORIZON ARE TRYING TO BREAK MY SERVER
PLEASE HELP
WHAT DO I DO
peak dirge
First I suggest calming down
peak dirge
Next step depends on how you want to solve the issue
vernal bone
Announce a downtime/ban all of them
untold copper
How can I solve the issue
peak dirge
Consider a temporary whitelist before things get too bad
Eventually they'll get bored and make a whiny video
potent fossil
yea, first of all dont freak out...just turn on whitelist and then take a minute to breathe
horizon focuses on p2w servers, so... once your whitelist is on, figure out what they might be targeting...
peak dirge
Note that they have a fairly "liberal" definition of P2W
potent fossil
horizon is just trash in general
peak dirge
I don't normally accept DMs
peak dirge
If you're really that concerned, you can DM me now. I temporarily turned on the permission.
untold copper
Alright, I was thinking that would be advertising
peak dirge
But you can paste the link here, you need help.
golden gust
if people ask for it, you can post it
untold copper
potent fossil
doesnt seem p2w to me
peak dirge
First rank I checked, this is def P2W
golden gust
in game money too, which is defo oof
peak dirge
I think it's fairly obvious why Horizon will targe you
untold copper
wait lemme check
peak dirge
Most, if not all of these perks, are P2W
potent fossil
i guess once you fix your store, go find the post calling you out on their subreddit and show that you've fixed the issue
they're assholes but they should stop
untold copper
how is /fly p2w
peak dirge
Stuff like /nick is not P2W, I'd probably say /wb is not really P2W
golden gust
Once again, their definition of P2W is quite practically "any form of advantage whatsoever"
peak dirge
There's a few of these perks that aren't total P2W, but most of them are.
You are also selling crate keys for spawners. Also P2W.
No matter what the price they will guess, perhaps correctly, that your server is P2W
untold copper
hm
peak dirge
Even if the price is low, it's still P2W
untold copper
I still don't get how /fly is p2w, a ton of servers sell it -.-
golden gust
Because it's an advantage
It was literally against mojangs TOS to give access to /fly for cash outside of lobbies, etc
peak dirge
The way to get anything resembling flying in vanilla is to find an elytra, which is something you have to work for.
golden gust
Well, EULA
untold copper
So lets say I make it so that you can get /fly without paying as well
peak dirge
So /fly is definitely P2W, I can just part with a bit of cash
So lets say I make it so that you can get /fly without paying as well
It can still be considered P2W
peak dirge
Again, Horizon's definition of "P2W" is very wide.
untold copper
Also can someone link me to their subreddit
untold copper
Tux, can you tell me some perks that are p2w in my store (apart from /fly)
untold copper
aw hell
peak dirge
You can kind of debate /wb and /disposal but I don't really think they're P2W
untold copper
alright alright alright
ya'll just ruined half mah store but thanks XD
I'll try to fix it
Cosmetics no p2w amirite
potent fossil
i dont think we ruined so much as horizon called your ass out (but as tux said, they have a wide def)
peak dirge
And yes, it sucks to be a victim but the easiest solution is to give in
viral hornet
simple 
potent fossil
@viral hornet 🥺
peak dirge
They'll target any P2W regardless of size
If someone gets triggered and you happen to have P2W, you're a target.
golden gust
i remember when people used to threaten reporting to mojang lol
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uwu @peak dirge
untold copper
who tf even gave them rights to target servers -.-
who do they think they are
xD
peak dirge
owo @minor badge
@untold copper They're vigilantes. They give themselves permission because it makes them feel moral.
untold copper
morons
peak dirge
Well, I'm sorry but welcome to the real world, it's cruel out there, I'll give you a lemon.
peak dirge
🍋
potent fossil
potent fossil
bruh
untold copper
baN?
potent fossil
you were told how to fix your shop, basic server moderation is up to you
he seems to be chillin...
untold copper
he seems super sus
untold copper
No black sus more
vestal jasper
purple seems really fucking sus, only one message
viral hornet
hmm
potent fossil
this is what happens when inexperienced people decide to run servers without having a single fucking clue as to what they're doing
they just depend on others to tell them what to do
im over it
yall can keep spoonfeeding if you so wish
vestal jasper
pings
sorry for ping
just don't ping then
quasi valley
@vestal jasper hello sorry for pinging you
vestal jasper
@quasi valley uwu
untold copper
xD
potent fossil
not even joking, straight truth, you have no idea what you're doing
viral hornet
I want a basic essentials, like, a fork of essentials but only with the shit I need (for specific setups)
I'm becoming one of those people
@quasi valley are you still stiff
void void
@everyone
quasi valley
no
quasi valley
wow that's mean
void void
waterfall
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camm 🥺
viral hornet
quasi valley
making fun of my perfect english is also mean, camm 
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i will work on [redacted] after brekkie 
viral hornet
LOL
peak dirge
proxi will work on ban uwu
viral hornet
What's for breakfast?
minor badge
ban is never being finished tux
viral hornet
Tux will work on making all bungee plugins compat with velocity 🥺
peak dirge
@viral hornet fat chance
peak dirge
kek
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i just needa microwave the fill and i'm done :p
viral hornet
I dunno what to have for dinner, bought chicken and salad
quasi valley
wut doesn't slp have velocity support?
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plus ive got like 20 cans of maize i need to use
viral hornet
But the gin is making me want to have something else
peak dirge
@quasi valley it does
viral hornet
idk kenny, but I think a lot of bungee plugins don't work with velocity?
Cause velocity snob 😦
minor badge
velocity's api compared to bungee is like comparing the speed of a race car today vs 1800s car prototypes
viral hornet
kenny 🥺
rewrite all my bungeecord plugins 🥺
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god i love velocity
viral hornet
tbh, I actually know nothing about velocity
Because I've never thought about using it, but michael said to, so I must read up on it now
quasi valley
smh
golden gust
I mean, Bungee has a scoreboard API
when components where added to mojangs scoreboard stuff, he refused to support it
Meaning that the get methods which return a component, just return the raw json string
It's basically bukkit API level BS but much worse
viral hornet
Thank god for waterfall?
golden gust
No
viral hornet
oh
golden gust
We can't fix that without an API break
viral hornet
That's unfortunate
golden gust
I fixed and then broke a popular scoreboard plugin like that
quasi valley
all of SpigotMC is unfortunate 
viral hornet
silly mdumnotactuallyanaustralian_5
golden gust
(fixed = fixed the API inconsisteny by making it return legacy chat style stuff), broke = when MD refused to change it in any form of way and just made it throw raw json out, so the devs of the plugin had to follow that
peak dirge
I mean, if we did a hard fork then Velocity is the natural successor to Waterfall
viral hornet
MD refused to change it in any form of way and just made it throw raw json out
Were PRs done?
Or do people just not bother with it lol
golden gust
I don't recall, we spoke to him about it and he basically opted to leave it as-is
viral hornet
Clown
golden gust
I remember there being some level of discussion but especially at that point in time, it was just heavily "eh'
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@viral hornet
viral hornet
Omg
quasi valley
bork
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bork
viral hornet
Pupupupupupupupupuppupupupupupup
twin lagoon
both my pixel 5 orders got cancelled why does germany suck
minor badge
hes actually 6
viral hornet
Proxi please give 2 head pats and one nose boop
twin lagoon
i blame kneny 😔
viral hornet
Michael 🥺
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done camm !
twin lagoon
why is both mediamarkt & saturn's livechat queue so fucking long at every moment
vernal moth
both my pixel 5 orders got cancelled why does germany suck
@twin lagoon we just don't like you