#general
zealous wedge
zealous wedge
me
mighty storm
wow
cosmic raft
why gitlab :(
mighty storm
Import from GitLab on GitHub pl0x
cosmic raft
does still surprise me that GitHub/Lab didn't do like
mighty storm
#general message tied still
potent fossil
not anymore chew goodnight
mighty storm
Pls say sike
zealous wedge
i like to spread my projects out
zealous wedge
also don't like github as an org too much
mighty storm
😭
zealous wedge
i've looked at the one sqlite uses
serene bolt
road trip!!!
zealous wedge
wait kashike do you have a car
mighty storm
Kasike and zml meet in Canada, they drive down to steal Rory and I then come pick up you, then dinner, then back to Canada
Ok imma sleep but Rory better not be gone again
zealous wedge
trans flag emoji in paper wen
zealous wedge
pick ur favourite rory emote
this one's also good
mighty storm
I gotta head out before I accidentally uwu even more
The tired brings out the old chew
zealous wedge
sleep well
mighty storm
Also +2 days
potent fossil
uwu
zealous wedge
have good dreams
quasi valley
yes
cosmic raft
uwu
zealous wedge
ur alive so the whole world can experience your coolness
mighty storm
I'm not cool
cosmic raft
why am I mad
mighty storm
:(
zealous wedge
cool cat chew
mighty storm
COOL CAT SAVES THE KIDS
quasi valley
oh no
cosmic raft
what emoji
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@vestal jasper epic
zealous wedge
and 
serene bolt
vestal jasper
proxi it's context rewrite time 
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paper does say trans rights
mighty storm
Hell yeah
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vic this will be epic
mighty storm
Okay for real am going to sleep
But before I go anyone wanna admit they got a crush on me
quasi valley
have a nice slep
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i mean itd be hard not to say trans rights when theres a trans mod, trans triage, and trans dev
i love you chew
mighty storm
lmao
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😔
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agree to disagree then!
quasi valley
you gotta self deprecate a bit less chew lol
serene bolt
sleep loves you
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deprecate me knenichan
mighty storm
Hating myself keeps me going tbh
I have a desire to fix things I don't like
If I accept who I am at any moment I'm basically just giving up
Anyway goodnight 
mighty storm
@deprecated
PUBLIC CLASS CHEW
cosmic raft
runs it through proguard and strips annotations
zealous wedge
would proguard work on chew? there's nothing that can be minimized
cosmic raft
just strip annotations
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we can't remove anything from her !!
zealous wedge
her annotations are important!
mighty storm
try {
chew.deprecate(self);
catch (PeopleLoveYouException ignored)
// 99.99% of the time this will never happen
}
Thanks eye van for tip
zealous wedge
ah classic ivan fashion, putting in comments that are entirely wrong
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@cosmic raft halp why do unixporn posts of tiling WMs never have tiled windows
cosmic raft
hm?
zealous wedge
tile me bby
zealous wedge
oh chicken fingers? meh
because people want to show off their desktop backgrounds i guess?
zealous wedge
goodnight chew :3
minor badge
tho ngl i think i might do a little ricing again
zealous wedge
ah yes you would never
woven otter
uwu
vestal jasper
chew GO TO SLEEP
zealous wedge
VIC GO TO SLEEP
woven otter
SHH THEY ARE SLEEPING
quasi valley
STOP SHOUTING, DUCK
woven otter
NO KENNY YOU WILL WAKE THEM UP
heady spear
You’re all idiots
quasi valley
yeah city ur a bad bully
heady spear
I don’t care what a couple of dumbos think about me
vestal jasper
ok bully
woven otter
instead of bullying you could work on your stupid cloud so it's usable already
sharp sentinel
Why is everyone now XPlaysMC 👀
heady spear
I was the first
vestal jasper
cat trolled me
heady spear
After Ivan
potent fossil
We're trying to emulate the greatest developer known to man, Ivan.
heady spear
Am a trendsetter
quasi valley
city, stop disrespecting our saviour Ivan
woven otter
MrIvan
quasi valley
he was the trendsetter.
vestal jasper
I said I don't trust anyone with the patterns "Plays" and "MC" in their usernames so cat put both in my nickname.
heady spear
Kenny can you kindly just go and suck my nuts tbh
mental meadow
@vestal jasper you know that was me right?
woven otter
NO don't bully kneeny
quasi valley
city ur not just a bad bully, ur bad at bullying
vestal jasper
cat i'd like to report a moderator for abuse of power
zealous wedge
ok @xxAuroraPlaysMCuwuXx
vestal jasper
heady spear
I don’t care about ur opinion Kenny
golden gust
glhf
quasi valley
stop being rood to me city 
mental meadow
It's like when you're a white drug dealer in a black neighbourhood, police never suspects you
vestal jasper
heady spear
To me ur basically a half rotten turd
sharp sentinel
uwuMrVicariousPlaysMCplaysuwu
woven otter
city go work on your fart cloud
heady spear
I’m gonna abandon that library and work in on my WE fork
sharp sentinel
WE fork 👀
vestal jasper
do you even have commits on the FAWE repo
quasi valley
I bet @waxen panther doesn't like that
heady spear
Ye like 4 of them
woven otter
yeah yeah city you can just admit that acf is better
heady spear
Spottedleaf has committed to fawe too
sharp sentinel
can I start a petition to rename AWE to SAWE, SlowAsyncWorldException
heady spear
He’s a contributor
mental meadow
Merge commits from my pull requests don't count
zealous wedge
wait is fawe a proper fork of WE?
sharp sentinel
I wonder how many commits I technically have to FAWE 😛
zealous wedge
or a whole new commit history
vestal jasper
the holy number
zealous wedge
lol same me
heady spear
Is a fork
zealous wedge
ok then i have commits in there
golden gust
How does it know knowing that you guys technically contribute to FAWE?
golden gust
wow
zealous wedge
oh i've done a lot of bad things in my time cat
sharp sentinel
I'm #4 on additions to FAWE lol
golden gust
PermissionSex
sharp sentinel
Only #6 on commits tho
zealous wedge
hm i'm #8
sharp sentinel
My condolences
heady spear
zealous wedge
sk's still #1 lol
quartz peak
anyone on the east side able to access discord?
heady spear
Though Spottedleaf contributed to FAWE specifically
Let’s bully him for his bad decisions
mental meadow
But at least we figured out the Worldguard issue Matt :D
zealous wedge
aurora why do you have fewer commits in your project than i do
mental meadow
No :c
sharp sentinel
Idk how, but CraftBook always seems to find the real weird FAWE issues
mental meadow
And no one ever reports them to us
heady spear
Maybe craftbook is the issue
sharp sentinel
My personal favourite was when Jesse rewrote vectors around ~1.8 time, and made them always have an offset of -1. Therefore the Snow mechanic would cause the world to slowly corrode away
Funniest issue
zealous wedge
hm what causes more issues
mental meadow
The Worldguard thingy is something to do with the vault permission resolver, so when not using vault everything works :D
zealous wedge
FAWE, or spigot's redstone events
heady spear
Imagine using plugins tbh
zealous wedge
oh WEPIF is a bit cursed
mental meadow
A bit
zealous wedge
the superperms resolver is wrong
sharp sentinel
Honestly idk, more people complain about Spigot-related issues
And there are more known Spigot-caused craftbook breakages than FAWE ones
AFAIK for FAWE it's only gates atm
heady spear
I think most people are aware that FAWE is yikes oofers atm tho
sharp sentinel
"yikes oofers"
mental meadow
If I ever find out how craftbook works I'll test that
sharp sentinel
I think CraftBook uses the FuzzyBlockState system
Literally the only thing that does
heady spear
Also I think FAWE breaks PlotSquared more than anything
mental meadow
My personal favourite was when Jesse rewrote vectors around ~1.8 time, and made them always have an offset of -1. Therefore the Snow mechanic would cause the world to slowly corrode away
Wait srsly I think a dude in fawe-support is just having that issue 😂
heady spear
Because Jesse put shit in FAWE that injects into PlotSquared
And replaces our utility classes
sharp sentinel
lmao what
mental meadow
I didn't mean how the code works, I meant how to use the damn thing 😂
sharp sentinel
"the snow nom noms"
mental meadow
Time for --old uwu
sharp sentinel
Almost as bad as "yikes oofers"
zealous wedge
who is this jesse person
heady spear
A myth
zealous wedge
yikes oofers describes a lot of things
mental meadow
Jesse is the father that said he'll go buy cigarettes and never returns
Not irl, but for FAWE
heady spear
Jesse is the FAWE creators, breaker of worlds and my code daddy.
sharp sentinel
Nah, he lights the house on fire and says he's going to buy a fire extinguisher and never returns
heady spear
He also left me n made PlotSquared bork galore
mental meadow
Yeah that's more accurate
topaz mortar
Code "Daddy"
heady spear
He comes back every other year to wreck havoc
Making * commits to master and then leaving again
mental meadow
Could you please revoke his write access to the repo while you're at it
heady spear
I’ve removed his push perms to all repos :))
mental meadow
Thx ❤️
zealous wedge
lol nice
sharp sentinel
Inb4 Jesse makes SFAWE
quasi valley
SlowFastAWE?
zealous wedge
"Super"Fast
heady spear
But also we got FAWE transferred to my spigot account
He must have been happy when he came back to that
sharp sentinel
Someone should make SWE - just a plugin that registers an Extent that calls Thread.sleep(1000)
sharp sentinel
Wait really
mental meadow
Yeah if you don't have Premium
heady spear
If Jesse had just finished his pipeline mess before he left
zealous wedge
wait wat
mental meadow
First thing we removed after decompiling awe lol
zealous wedge
decompiling? wat
sharp sentinel
AWE don't release up to date source, they claim they don't need to
heady spear
sb_prime will blame that on someone else if you ask him
sharp sentinel
Yeah, I know 😛
He claims because the code is LGPL (it's not), that he doesn't need to release changes (he would either way)
sharp sentinel
technically contributions were both LGPL and GPL
zealous wedge
ah yes, sk lawyering
sharp sentinel
But we removed that complexity
mental meadow
The only thing I do like about awe is that it's just an add-on you can turn off and on at any time, you can't do that with FAWE
sharp sentinel
AWE still manages to break everything when turned off though
mental meadow
Yeah
sharp sentinel
And I saw someone complain earlier that using the navwand sent 8 lines of text to the player on left click with AWE?
mental meadow
Jup
heady spear
I still like that he injects shit that isn’t compatible with the WE 7.2 API and then acts like it’s not his fault
It’s funny
mental meadow
Since it also does it "Async"
heady spear
AWE is such a mess :)))
mental meadow
You have to exclude that in the the config
How long do you think it took to load a 9090256 schematic with AWE?
Any guesses? :D
topaz mortar
Crashed before pasting.
mental meadow
No
sharp sentinel
My guess is it took too long to measure
mental meadow
The dude that broke into your car?
sharp sentinel
Ngl for like 5 seconds I thought that was Skinny Pete from Breaking Bad
potent fossil
they look like drug addicts
woven otter
QL what
mental meadow
How long do you think it took to load a 9090256 schematic with AWE?
(The answer is around 90 minutes btw)
zealous wedge
wat
zealous wedge
wtaf
sharp sentinel
Yeah that makes sense
topaz mortar
What the hell
golden gust
The one issue I had with AWE was fucking around with the config to get it to work at a decent speed
mental meadow
Not to mention we actually where using the premium version
golden gust
There was a point where you could get it to work pretty fast
golden gust
But, then, idk wtf happened, regression after regression it's now slower than a snail
there was times you'd get a build and it'd be slow as shit, next build would take off like a rocket, then you'd be back at "city tryna do 1+1" speeds
heady spear
I think we 7 was a major blow for him
zealous wedge
oh no, imagine WE changing
sharp sentinel
Idk how tbh, WE7 works a lot better in general
golden gust
hai mini
sharp sentinel
I had a branch that did basically what AWE does, and it worked about the same speed as WE itself does
So idk what he does to make it magnitudes slower
mental meadow
I'm just pissed that he actually earns money from it with such bad code
golden gust
I mean
mental meadow
But then, I used to be dev for Songoda so I can't complain about that
golden gust
kangargo makes a fuckton of cash for teaching people how to write shit code
golden gust
Or however you spell his name
quasi valley
kangaroo*
golden gust
From what I saw of his free material it was trash tier at best
fallen oracle
Did they steal your pluto pups, Camm?
golden gust
The thing is that quality means fuck all in this community
mental meadow
Idk honestly as long as it helps people to get to know programming and the Spigot API
heady spear
Also fwiw PlotSquared v6 uses WorldEdit for all block setting and also does queueing, scheduling and async computation fuckery
golden gust
you're basically at the point where practically any free plugin is going to be much better value code quality for money
heady spear
It’s a lot faster than AWE 🙂
golden gust
The issue is that teaching shit code is bad
You do nobody any favour and you spend more time trying to unlearn shit programming practices than you do if you just went somewhere that wasn't a marketing fuckfest
sharp sentinel
Yeah idk why people seem to use premium plugins just because they're premium
zealous wedge
yeah, you can be a bad programmer until you try to start teaching people
sharp sentinel
Paying money doesn't mean your server will be better
woven otter
ironically clown is making it seem easy
heady spear
Aurora, he teaches them to be dependent on his poorly made monolithic library
Without it they’ll be unable to exist in this world and they will all turn into dust clouds
mental meadow
Ideally when you learn programming one day you'll also learn the some practices are bad and stop using them
zealous wedge
mmm Foundation
mental meadow
Well, ideally
mental meadow
No one can be as good as you tho
heady spear
That is true
vernal moth
The core issue is that such courses try to teach java at most
golden gust
The issue is that a foundation of shit is no good, especially when you're not taught to learn, you're taught to respeel the shit he's shoved in you
woven otter
go work on your stupid cloud city
vernal moth
They don't teach programming
golden gust
You're not taught in a way that allows you to grow and learn, you're taught poor practices and expected to purely be able to regurgitate that mess
vernal moth
They don't teach the though process, they don't teach the algorithms and data structures, they don't teach the methods to solve problems
heady spear
Duck I don’t care about cloud, my new hobby is erotic massage
woven otter
self massage?
heady spear
Nah, I only massage elderly women
woven otter
👀
golden gust
if it was a 10/20 dollar course, I could maybe forgive him for the money grabbing arse he is
vernal moth
This is smth my uni did good. I had one class called software engineering where I didn't write much code at all, we did everything but writing code
golden gust
but, it's not; It's a ton of cash to people who have hopes to learn wtf they're doing, and all they're fed is how to regurgitate
vernal moth
Just learning patterns and stuff
heady spear
He unironically said that his staff were doing the IntelliJ course to make their course better
Imagine taking a free course to improve your shitty ass expensive ass course
zealous wedge
learn self-reliance
drowsy urchin
Oh wow I didn’t know Aikar lived in Raleigh North Carolina because I do too!
zealous wedge
ok andrew
heady spear
Nice döx
topaz mortar
An 🦘 seems to be inexperienced as well. Asking dum questions in Spigot. Can't he think himself?
heady spear
Thinking is overrated
golden gust
He's a marketer
heady spear
Look at cat. He never thinks
vernal moth
But like, generally he isn't worth the effort
golden gust
He's not a really great programmer
sharp sentinel
Ughhh I gotta go get food but my car is almost out of petrol, so realistically I gotta go to a petrol station as well
heady spear
And he seems to be doing just fine 🤷♂️
vernal moth
I just ignore him and tell ppl to move on
zealous wedge
can you walk to get food @sharp sentinel?
vernal moth
Imagine leaving your house to get food
golden gust
Take a look at the stuff he makes, his plugins are generally trash but people buy them up because it's overcrammed with poor quality features
sharp sentinel
Sunday night and I live in Brisbane, the city that always sleeps 😛
heady spear
There’s still drama with his staff
zealous wedge
oof
heady spear
Him not having paid them etc
heady spear
So am not a huge fan
zealous wedge
hey nossr...
sharp sentinel
sorta like how people buy PlotSquared
heady spear
nossr deserves everything good in this world
PlotSquared v5 is absolute shit lol
There’s a reason why I’ve spent most of this summer rewriting that disgusting garbage
golden gust
mcMMO's just totally... It's one of those plugins which really just needs an entire rewrite, but the workload to throw it all out and start again is just arse...
sharp sentinel
See I'm trying to get the motivation to finish CB5, but idk if I care about MC in general enough to put in that much effort
heady spear
I only care about the money atm
golden gust
I was working on stuff, but health, and nossr kept running too crazy on the branch and I got tired of rebasing all the time
heady spear
PlotSquared has paid my rent this summer
woven otter
stop
sharp sentinel
Pretty fair
golden gust
go back to your bridge u troll
woven otter
so that's why you work on cloud then
heady spear
I work on cloud because I also like to enjoy programming from time to time
But considering you live in quasi-Russia you’ve probably never enjoyed anything ever. Go back to farming potatoes smh
drowsy urchin
Go back to your pond.
heady spear
I’m always in my hole
woven otter
who the fuck are you
heady spear
I’m in it right now
woven otter
I don't know you
heady spear
It’s so deep
woven otter
go back to plugging holes
woven otter
instead shittalking or working on cloud you could work on configurate 4.0 🙂
heady spear
configurate needs comments for yaml or I’ll sue
woven otter
^
heady spear
Ppl r 2 dum 2 use hocon
sharp sentinel
Just use sk's YAML lib from 2011
woven otter
at least for once you said something right
sharp sentinel
Hey, WorldEdit, WorldGuard, and CraftBook all use it
And they have functional comments :^)
heady spear
Ima start working on brig mappings
PlotSquared uses its own yaml parsing shit too and has comments
woven otter
configurate comments when
heady spear
But ours was made by Jesse and if you look at it wrong, it’ll break
So I’ve no idea how to fix it now
woven otter
yaml comments to be more specific
sharp sentinel
Does PS depend on WE?
heady spear
Ye
sharp sentinel
If so, just use YAMLProcessor 😛
heady spear
Don’t forget zml made the handlerlist stuff
quasi valley
wow zml rood
woven otter
this is the sad world we live in
heady spear
I only bully ppl that deserve it
woven otter
why don't you bully yourself then
woven otter
😠
heady spear
I steal their food and eat it in front of them
queen swift
Yo guys... someone remember when i was complaining about updating to 1.16.3 when there's no actually need for it. So... Im updating anyways becouse my fucking OCD. And i was messing around with WorldGuard and testing some good things, and all seems to work proplety, but im need to be sure, becouse i have a big ass network, and i dont wanna get trouble. My question is, can anyone confirm that the plugin works fine on a long time scale, or if anyone has experienced any kind of error/bug? 
heady spear
No one remembers you
queen swift
No one remembers you
@heady spear 😢 Im crying rn 😢
potent fossil
nothing should even need updated. no api changes and nms ver unchanged
woven otter
city no bullying 😠
heady spear
Good
potent fossil
its all internal.
heady spear
I don’t bully, I just tell it as it is
sharp sentinel
Nah funnily enough a single field that WorldEdit used changed lol
So it needed an update
heady spear
O daddy simple uwu
sharp sentinel
But only on Spigot, because md_5 changed the mappings of one field. Worked fine on Forge/Fabric
potent fossil
press F
heady spear
Why did my phone autocorrect uwu to hey
twin lagoon
kneni
heady spear
Cease
twin lagoon
🥺
heady spear
Kenny if u were eaten by a group of rabid squirrels in front of me
I prolly wouldn’t intervene
twin lagoon
kinky
heady spear
Because I actually like squirrels
quasi valley
michale
heady spear
And I don’t like u
quasi valley
you can't even update Via
heady spear
Via is a virus
quasi valley
my 
heady spear
You should add it to ur no no list on GitHub
sharp sentinel
if via crashes 1.8 clients I see that as an absolute win tbh
quasi valley
I will add you now City
queen swift
WOrldGuard?
@sharp sentinel Aight, ty
heady spear
Ok
golden gust
kneny your via plugin crashed 1.8 clients
Sounds like a feature
quasi valley
der you go city, you have been immortalized
woven otter
please keep that feature
quasi valley
we prolly would have actually not touched it if it weren't for a person pr'ing 
quasi valley
publicity right next to kangaroo and songoda
heady spear
I love being recognised alongside my peers
zealous wedge
you know sk's yaml lib from 2011 is a very good basic configuration library
and WE doesn't really need anything more than it lol
sharp sentinel
CraftBook somehow gets away with it
spiral sparrow
hi everyone
twin lagoon
@ashen cliff any reason why i'd have frequent & high GC Old Gens with ZGC?
mental meadow
kneny I opened a PR for your list
twin lagoon
like 900ms
quasi valley
provided a very important suggestion
ashen cliff
🤔
mental meadow
ashen cliff
Where did you see GC Old Gens? Since I'm looking at my GC log and can't find it.
ashen cliff
No idea. Could just be the way they get the info?
Also someone add https://posili.me/i/2020-09-13_10-15-31.png to the same list.
spiral sparrow
anyone here live comfortably with minecraft stuff as their full time job
worn pasture
imagine that
quasi valley
don't tell me he still manually adds single versions
ashen cliff
ashen cliff
Also I do know some people who live very well of just MC.
spiral sparrow
are there jobs in minecraft that provide you with work pcs
ashen cliff
I assume no.
ashen cliff
I mean, most servers are build on communisms or slavery.
spiral sparrow
michael do you live by your self
potent fossil
wut serbur that from mikey
potent fossil
invite
twin lagoon
eat my ass
potent fossil
plz?
potent fossil
is boi
potent fossil
oh and the suicidal boi
quasi valley
where's the michale boi
twin lagoon
spiral sparrow
michael does minecraft give you enough pay to live stable ly
twin lagoon
i mean yeah i live at my parents
twin lagoon
mmm
spiral sparrow
i thought you were in your 20 s
twin lagoon
i am
quasi valley
michale is 12
twin lagoon
i think i earn enough to live comfortably on my own
potent fossil
i live with my parents because they welcome it and i pay no rent and i get meals cooked for me too
twin lagoon
exactly
spiral sparrow
oh
worn pasture
i was kicked out at 18
potent fossil
i for one cannot afford that shit
ashen cliff
Not all of us live in the US.
potent fossil
and also im lucky to have not been kicked out
worn pasture
well, i wasn't really kicked out, my mum was moving out so i had to go somewhere
potent fossil
im lucky my parents didn't do that then
spiral sparrow
so what did you do turbo
worn pasture
i moved in with my partner
twin lagoon
turbo was just a cunt
worn pasture
^
spiral sparrow
im scared to be homeless or in a situation where i have nowhere to go
so i hope minecraft pays good
worn pasture
tbh i got kicked out prior to moving out because i was a little shit so
twin lagoon
mans having a fucking midlife crisis at 13
spiral sparrow
5 years go by quick
potent fossil
worn pasture
don't expect to make money off running a server lol
golden gust
how's that going for ya?
potent fossil
i throw out my back more often than i'd like tbh
golden gust
lol
potent fossil
yes
quasi valley
old cuck
worn pasture
you gonna have a fun life
potent fossil
good thing im entirely ready to cut off the lower half of my body and convert myself into a machine and use a computer for the rest of eternity without moving ever
worn pasture
mood
ashen cliff
Detroit: Become dependent.
twin lagoon
simple how's dbh
potent fossil
havent played more yet but i like it
i wanna complete more of the stories but it only lets me go forward
so sup widdat
queen swift
don't expect to make money off running a server lol
@worn pasture I mean... If you are good at what you do, you can get money relatively easy, not much, but its a win-win situation... 🤔
zealous wedge
the real question is: can minecraft give you more than the government
and the answer may be no
vestal jasper
limpid comet
just convert the irs tax machine into a redstone calculator
that's like 90% of the US government yeah?
collecting taxes?
i don't know i'm not american
limpid comet
tnt dupers
zealous wedge
the other 90%
limpid comet
any 2b2t player
left swift
Mc does run the government the usa is basically ran like a 1.8 factions server
minor badge
@twin lagoon michale uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
rotund cargo
uwu
sharp sentinel
Lmao my car definitely needed refueling. It’s a 35L tank and I put 35.4L in there
rotund cargo
Sorry knenty 🙂
twin lagoon
knentwald
left swift
Some was lost in conversion
rotund cargo
Lmao my car definitely needed refueling. It’s a 35L tank and I put 35.4L in there
My father that put 15.4L in a tank of 15L for the quad xD
quasi valley
your car is very thirsty it seems
ashen cliff
Imagine not driving a Volvo.
left swift
I put 25 gallons in a 15 gallon tank cuz I'm american and if you dont give back to the earth the hurricanes attack
Based Mana
I should put my comments on a tumblr blog
left swift
A zoomer term
green turret
Get off my lawn!
green turret
Young people these days...
When I was your age I didn't have bases or manas! I had sticks and stones and I used them to break people's bones because words couldn't hurt them, because of some magic incantation they used to yell.
left swift
All I grew up with was rubber and glue
rotund cargo
I drive my father's quad (400cm3) but except a pc I have nothing lol
green turret
I also had a NES.
rotund cargo
You guys are lucky to knox what it is xD
left swift
I had a gameboy advanced
green turret
Damn
Never had a gameboy, but my first ever anything computery was a Commodore 64. My dad taught me how to insert the cassettes and type L O A D on the prompt so it would start the game. Later I got a floppy disk drive, the big 5 inch ones that were actually floppy, and they each had FOUR games on them.
left swift
I remember playing these like floppy games on a pc in our 2nd grade classroom
Was cool times
green turret
I also had a Paint program for it. It came with a really horrible mouse. But if you forgot to plug the mouse in before starting it (took 15 minutes to load), you could turn it off and start over. Nothing was "Plug and Play" then :O
Check that bad boy out!
golden gust
I really wanna get an acorn machine
green turret
For squirrels?
golden gust
I pulled one out of my grandparents attic, had some corrision issues which I needed to sort out, but, the mouse was busted
Wanted to get a new mouse but my mother threw out the machine 😦
golden gust
green turret
"You don't play with them anymore" no but wtf lady!
heady spear
vic when u finna contribute to cloud
twin lagoon
vintage tech 
vestal jasper
ngl if someone ever comes up to me and asks me if I wanna help them restore old tech
I'm marrying them on the spot
twin lagoon
wanna restore old tech @vestal jasper
vestal jasper
marry me
red imp
Hi, does jeb_ etc. works in 1.16?
twin lagoon
yes
red imp
:/ for me not, prob. some plugin blocks it
heady spear
can u stop being gay n work on my stuff instead
vestal jasper
I'm literally working on carbon rn fuck off
heady spear
dum hoe by the time I am done with cloud it's gonna be old tech
heady spear
ok use commandapi then you idiot
worn pasture
@worn pasture I mean... If you are good at what you do, you can get money relatively easy, not much, but its a win-win situation... 🤔
@queen swift obviously yeah, but the guy is 13 lol
twin lagoon
https://gfycat.com/RespectfulLastingIridescentshark @minor badge
worn pasture
maybe when they're older and have more experience running servers then sure
twin lagoon
borb
mental meadow
Birb
vestal jasper
@minor badge
twin lagoon
aurora uwu
mental meadow
Wiggling is fun tho
vestal jasper
imagine posting birbs and not pinging proxi
mental meadow
uwu michael
vestal jasper
oh you did
mental meadow
Lol
vestal jasper
aight i'm braindead tonight
vestal jasper
i'm going back to mindlessly refactoring carbon for the 50th time
I just saw a line of blue text and thought "oh not even a ping"
zealous wedge
birb
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
potent fossil
ok
twin lagoon
it's a plugin
you download the jar
you throw it on plugins/
you restart the server
cosmic raft
@golden gust that picture reminded me of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZNvj-HfBU&t=43s
golden gust
😄
viral hornet
@potent fossil shouldn't you be zzzz'ing
potent fossil
im having my weekly date day with my LDR fiancee
cosmic raft
@potent fossil well, let me help
potent fossil
you can be my side bitch
cosmic raft
.1.11
limber knotBOT
potent fossil
potent fossil
🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
viral hornet
🥺
potent fossil
🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
viral hornet
got bot raided today, so that was fun
twin lagoon
when are you not wasted
potent fossil
thats why he said generally
viral hornet
The last month there's been more weekday drinking than not
michael come and drink with me 🥺
vestal jasper
camm are you using carbon on prod rn?
twin lagoon
viral hornet
Yeah Vic, but not latest
vestal jasper
someone with a 35+ player server is using it rn and idk who lol
vernal moth
Discussing morals in a discord full of server owners that basically exploit children is fun
vestal jasper
BStats
twin lagoon
mini that's business™️
viral hornet
oh
vestal jasper
https://bstats.org/plugin/bukkit/Carbon/8720 @viral hornet
viral hornet
I never saw a bstats thing
twin lagoon
lol that's probably camm
vestal jasper
lol
viral hornet
It's good but
cosmic raft
now I should make a chat plugin
viral hornet
But keeping up to latest is hard
cosmic raft
Dioxide
twin lagoon
kashike no
vestal jasper
@cosmic raft I tried getting the domain dioxi.de but I'm not paying $1000+ USD
cosmic raft
cries
vestal jasper
Also, I own the domain hexaoxi.de btw
viral hornet
VIc when is carbons stable release date
vestal jasper
https://chlorine.hexaoxi.de/job/Carbon/ look at this sexy url pls no ban for rule 4
viral hornet
You should stop adding more and release current then do .1 releases with new features
get this bitch more PUBLIC
vestal jasper
true
viral hornet
net.camm.loves.michael.🥺:
vestal jasper
ok time to refactor to de.hexaoxi.carbon
cosmic raft
yay
vestal jasper
that's after context refactor
twin lagoon
k finally updated carbonchat
vestal jasper
i'm almost done
camm i've literally spent the last like 2 weeks doing nothing but fixing bugs and working on code quality / stability
vestal jasper
a plugin that's been abandoned for 6 years that noone knows about
fervent kite
michael, it says i need mysql to be running
vestal jasper
that targets a disgusting server version
vestal jasper
back then but we don't discuss those versions anymore :^)
twin lagoon
yes @fervent kite
cosmic raft
still
twin lagoon
get a mariadb database
fervent kite
ok ill look into it
vestal jasper
ok flattening + 1.12.2 because mods and sponge
fervent kite
michael, do i run that database in the background or somehow connect it to the server
vestal jasper
Also I didn't even know it existed until after the rename since I never ran Bukkit/Spigot/Paper 1.8.
I started using bukkit and its impls in 1.11
fervent kite
ok thank you
fervent kite
ok
viral hornet
Buzz just pay michael to do it for you
vernal moth
Turned the discussion of morals around in advertising for hangar, I call my job done
viral hornet
I've been stress free sys admin since 2020 thanks to michael
twin lagoon
yes
vestal jasper
Time to turn the discussion of hangar into discussion of minimessage and its open issues 🥺
twin lagoon
camm 🥺
fervent kite
michael, your a sys admin?
twin lagoon
apparently
twin lagoon
@viral hornet i take that back you have no space left apparently
vernal moth
Time to turn the discussion of hangar into discussion of minimessage and its open issues 🥺
@vestal jasper I don't even have time for hangar right now :/
viral hornet
@twin lagoon what
twin lagoon
CAMM WHY IS YOUR HOME PARTITION 10GB
vestal jasper
Luckily the issues I have with MM are issues that don't affect me - they affect my users.
So I can just deflect blame as long as I want, mini
vernal moth
I accepted a contract to build a simple packet framework for chat and friendlist and group and encryption and shit to get me back into developing stuff
Like, I need to get back in the mood
And it's working great so far
So once that's done (like half a week or so?) I hopefully be able to catch back up
But like, MiniMessage is open source for a reason 🙈
But I also want to rewrite MiniMessage to be pluggable, so that the parser can be configured granularly
vestal jasper
I think the only 2 issues I care about are escaped tokens not unescaping as they're parsed, and dots in hovers fucking the regex
the former of which I care about a lot more than the latter - as there are legit lots of features I cannot implement until it's a thing
I may implement it at some point tbh
I haven't contributed to MM because I find the idea of it pretty daunting tbh
zealous wedge
it also hasn't been checkstyled :p
vernal moth
I was counting on you to copy that stuff over :P
zealous wedge
lol i didn't want to step on your toes or cause merge conflicts lol
vernal moth
Because it has so much active development ^^
vestal jasper
Like one of the things I wanna do is clean user input, insert my own formatting (replace swear words with magic &k text), and parse.
But rn that leaves a bunch of slashes in the text.
vernal moth
Well, it's mostly the setting up stuff, the formatting is automated anyways, right?
zealous wedge
but i'd rather do it manually since i'm going over everything anyways
vestal jasper
it'll get you like 70% of the way there
but considering how small MM is it might be easier / better to do manually yeah
vernal moth
I'll remember to set it up once I start the refactor
zealous wedge
hm we also need to update adventure-platform to use the common build config
so many things to do...
drowsy forge
Why did Mojang (Microsoft) make a completely different version for 2 big fixed why didn't they just make a bug fix to 1.16.2
vestal jasper
because that's how versioning works?
drowsy forge
But like why doesn't they just silently fix 1.16.2 people probably wouldn't have noticed and they've done that before
vestal jasper
cosmic raft
because that's not how versioning works
we would notice
anyone who modifies the client/server would notice
topaz mortar
major.minor.bugfix
vestal jasper
Well
- How would people know to update their server?
- How would people know to update their server?
drowsy forge
Yeah I know just seems weird to me that they made a whole different 1.16.3 for 2 bug fixes instead of just making a bug fix
quasi valley
wat?
vestal jasper
because. versioning.
you change the software, you change the version.
ashen cliff
1.16 (1).jar
cosmic raft
that is literally just how versioning works*!*
topaz mortar
The only thing that is weird, is why didn't they wait a little more and add more Bugfixes.
cosmic raft
like what do you expect next
quasi valley
that's literally what these patch releases are, bug fixes (except they actually had major features and stuff in .2, which is oof)
vestal jasper
jfc literally the last digit in the version exists SPECIFICALLY to denote bug fixes. That is its job.
You fix bugs, you increase the bug fix digit.
Which in our case is the 2/3 in 1.16.2 and 1.16.3
red imp
Hi guys, do you think this should be allowed? It's some mechanism using redstone, where you place bonemeal to dispensers and then bamboo grows and piston cuts it
drowsy forge
But in 1.16.2 they added a new mob
vestal jasper
because mojang's fucking dumb
quasi valley
yes because 1.16.2 is the odd one out, not .3
drowsy forge
So it's just because mojang is weird
cosmic raft
no
this is literally how versioning works
you change something, you release a new version
vestal jasper
In a perfect world 1.16.2 would've been 1.17.1, but mojang likes to use the minor version digit to denote major versions.
:D
cosmic raft
this is why literally all software out there has a version number
drowsy forge
Idk just seems weird to me
cosmic raft
7-Zip, Spotify, Skype, Discord, Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, etc etc
vestal jasper
Think about this. You're talking to someone who's seeking support.
And you ask what version they're on.
"I'm on 1.16.2"
Oh, the version of 1.16.2 with the dupe fix? Or the other version of 1.16.2 without the dupe fix.
makes 0 sense
cosmic raft
all have version numbers
zealous wedge
how on earth is it weird
red imp
drowsy forge
Idk I guess it's just me
quasi valley
yes it's just you
zealous wedge
you realize... minecraft is a farming game
vestal jasper
not trying to be rude, but it is just you
twin lagoon
no it's not that's stardew valley
zealous wedge
yeah, it's just you
vestal jasper
having multiple variants of the same version is literally nightmare for anyone offering support or talking about said version
unless you use something to denote which variant you're using
cosmic raft
also
drowsy forge
Yeah makes sense
vestal jasper
which - is the patch version in semver. 3
humble falcon
1.16.2-dupepatch-v1-2020
topaz mortar
quasi valley
semantic versioning has semantic versioning mfw
drowsy forge
I dunno just seems weird to me that 1.16.2 added a mob and 1.16.3 was a bugfix
vestal jasper
1.16.2 is odd, 1.16.3 is not
golden gust
The mob was going to be added earlier but wasn't ready yet for java edition, so instead of delaying it, they opted to release without
cosmic raft
people who like chocolate chip cookies
quasi valley
what are chocoloate chip cookies
golden gust
You wanna drip them in a cup of tea
vestal jasper
kashike, oatmeal raisin cookies are good, don't ya agree?
twin lagoon
kashike what the fuck
golden gust
*dip
golden gust
Trust me
vestal jasper
BRIT SPOTTED
cosmic raft
take notes michael
twin lagoon
no
wide chasm
Don't dip cookies into tea, it's disgusting
golden gust
I mean, tea is one thing
vestal jasper
say something controversial?
golden gust
You should see our ability to turn anything into a butty
cosmic raft
yea vic
vestal jasper
pineapple belongs on pizza.
🍍 + 🍕 = 😋
golden gust
fish fingers? throw it between bread!
cosmic raft
it does
vestal jasper
@quasi valley's breakfast this morning
cosmic raft
wtf is that
quasi valley
ooo
cosmic raft
ketchup?
quasi valley
yea looks like weird jam
golden gust
probs "strawberry sauce"
quasi valley
vestal jasper
Waffles with Pasta Sauce