general

[potent fossil]

you're the one who shit so much it tore off the engine

[golden gust]

LOL

Now that would be a claim

"Yea, I shat a jet engine off"

[potent fossil]

press F for the engine, had to deal with cat's massive poop

[olive garden]

are the accusations against Songoda true?

[olive marlin]

Depends which ones, and who you ask.

[quasi valley]

ask Songoda

[olive garden]

Threats of self-harm, the "interesting" business structure

[twin lagoon]

yes trigary

theres a 30mb zip file containing everything

including her doxxing someone blabla

all happened a year or two ago

[olive garden]

the only person in https://github.com/orgs/songoda/people is @mental meadow, a PaperMC mod and triage team member

Is she the owner?

[twin lagoon]

no

[quasi valley]

you can set yourself as private

[twin lagoon]

also you can hide users in orgs

[olive garden]

Then what is their affiliation with Songoda?

[twin lagoon]

yeah

[quasi valley]

being a dev

[twin lagoon]

aurora maintains one of their plugins

[latent valve]

[grizzled holly]

wasn't the manager of Songoda exposed for being abusive or something

[void void]

kek

[grizzled holly]

like she threatened to harm herself if people didn't do business with her

or maybe I'm thinking of something else

oh

I just scrolled up and it's there 🤦

[twin lagoon]

💞💖I want to shove my head in a toaster💖💞

[wide chasm]

Michael, no

Think about the toaster

[worn ember]

Ur big kaaskop won't fit anyway

[twin lagoon]

ded you would die if you had an ambulance ride because of the roads

[worn ember]

Am still alive tho

[olive garden]

no

[latent valve]

DED u will die if u play with no sound and face techie

[mental meadow]

Then what is their affiliation with Songoda?
I work with Songoda :)

[heady spear]

and songoda is a good friend :3

or well, Brianna.

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon 🥺

michale

[heady spear]

stop being toxic @vestal jasper

and kenny just stop in general

cease and desist

[vestal jasper]

@heady spear

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1303990103250006018?s=19

I Am Devloper (@iamdevloper)

me explaining to marketing why a 5MB hero image might not be the best idea https://t.co/lT6tlbDnSo

Retweets

322

Likes

2163

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Twitter

This is way too true

[cedar spade]

stop BULLYING kneny

[quasi valley]

^ STOP BULLY

[worn ember]

so it shows as 24h system on my clock and in the preview, but the hour selection is 12h system

[cedar spade]

14:00PM

[heady spear]

@quasi valley you know when you go into a public bathroom and there are weird stains on the wall that can only really be 💩

well, you're the human equivalent of one of those stains, xoxo

[quasi valley]

how can there be so much negativity in such a small brain

[cedar spade]

no city, only you know those weird stains, because the rest of us live in a civilised society

[heady spear]

racism isn't okay

[mental meadow]

imagine using public bathrooms

[worn ember]

i bet city licks them clean

[heady spear]

you're very privileged

I went to public school

[waxen panther]

ew no

[quasi valley]

[waxen panther]

city is far too hot for that

[cedar spade]

you do realise in English "public school" is a private school right

english is dumb

[worn ember]

one of my schools once had a giant shit in the urinals

[cedar spade]

||but city is dumber||

[worn ember]

how it got there will forever be mistery

[mental meadow]

imagine using the bathroom at your school

[heady spear]

in England. Who the fuck lives in England.

[waxen panther]

sorry 😔

[heady spear]

In the US, public schools are state schools

[waxen panther]

england is a shit hole

source -> british

[cedar spade]

weird, when did the US reverse that lol

[heady spear]

ok but no one cares about australia so cease

[cedar spade]

nobody says public school here anyway

[grizzled holly]

yea public schools are state schools here in aus

[heady spear]

go box a kangaroo or something

[cedar spade]

no u

[grizzled holly]

;c

[heady spear]

Australians shouldn't be allowed on the internet

[grizzled holly]

[quasi valley]

city is racist confirmed

[heady spear]

What do you mean why? Isn't that obvious?

[cedar spade]

city is knenist

[heady spear]

You all suck

[grizzled holly]

we're too cool for them

[heady spear]

we don't need more sucky people on the internet

[cedar spade]

hi mule

[heady spear]

so you shouldn't be on the internet

ez pz

[green turret]

They have their own internet. The down unternet.

[heady spear]

Heeyyyyyy we found the alt-right neckbeard

[green turret]

Hi MD!

[worn ember]

why are you saying people that dont exist arent allowed on the internet? are you delusional?

[grizzled holly]

Smh

[heady spear]

Jaymate has just shown that everything he says is 100% irrelevant and useless. Dope

[green turret]

I saw something about bathrooms and felt like sharing the fact that I am currently pooping.

[cedar spade]

Good to know

[grizzled holly]

great

[twin lagoon]

but are you pooping on the wall @green turret

[green turret]

No I'm not Swedish

[cedar spade]

Or in a public bathroom like a monster

[twin lagoon]

exactly

[worn ember]

lmao

[twin lagoon]

swedish people are weird

[quasi valley]

and especially city

[twin lagoon]

[heady spear]

hey at least im not a xenophobic prick

[worn ember]

the only swidish people i know are pim and city, one is obsessed with trains and the other with shitstains on the wall

[heady spear]

also I have IBD and you're all ableist

[green turret]

I like Australians.

They talk funny

[cedar spade]

Old McDonald had a restaurant

[twin lagoon]

with poop on the walls

[quasi valley]

not true, there's corona

[heady spear]

I can't help that I have an autoimmune disease that causes insane gastrointestinal pain

[green turret]

I like Ozzy Man

Also Claire from Lost.

[heady spear]

anyway fwiw I've not been raped a lot when walking around in Sweden and that's also true for most people around here

I mean you wouldn't be the first 🤷‍♂️ most neo-nazis like to spread that shit around

[green turret]

There is a pathway here somewhere called the rape path. I've never been there but I hear it's scary.

[worn ember]

"a lot"

[heady spear]

Misrepresenting crime statistics is a great way to incite fear

[worn ember]

implying you have

[heady spear]

And considering you're a rando on the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if you were also a white supremacist. It's not that far fetched tbh.

[worn ember]

🖖 this one right?

[simple estuary]

no u

[cedar spade]

No, this one 🚮

[olive garden]

@heady spear Is she the owner, who is the one accused of doing all these terrible things?

[worn ember]

ignore city he's just a salty swede

[heady spear]

How am I salty?

Brianna is indeed the owner of Songoda.

I'm not the one joking about rape, mate.

that's pretty fucking weird lol

[quasi valley]

you kinda were tho

[heady spear]

I wasn't, as far as I'm concerned I haven't been raped around here

[cedar spade]

Don't judge kneny

[heady spear]

not a joke, quite serious

[worn ember]

you're also a dude which lower your chances quite a bit

[heady spear]

I suppose you've taken into account HOW the numbers are reported

[warm anchor]

What’s this discussion about again lol

[heady spear]

Because that matters quite a bit

[worn ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cedar spade]

inb4 sent to #politics

[heady spear]

also i've never once trolled anyone

[next frost]

Hi

[heady spear]

so am not a troll

and I'm not salty

[worn ember]

[heady spear]

@quasi valley ur awful

[cedar spade]

GODDAMNIT CITY

stop bully

[quasi valley]

[cedar spade]

only I'm allowed to bully kneny and only in voice

[minor badge]

so how abt you either just shut up or move to dms thanks

[heady spear]

._.

[worn ember]

toxic

[hard viper]

No, toxicity must spread

[mental meadow]

I made .kneny does that mean I'm also allowed to bully kneny?

[minor badge]

yes

[worn ember]

he has no table

[cedar spade]

He maintains the Maintenance plugin

[worn ember]

he also has a clearchat plugin

very OP

[minor badge]

hes dumb but german so its okay

[mental meadow]

.kneny tells you all you need to know about kneny

[limber knot]

https://cutiepie.at/kneny

[cedar spade]

oh also something about him maintaining viaversion idk

[quasi valley]

ok

[next frost]

Bruh

[worn ember]

we'd also make a cute couple

[mental meadow]

that would be kinda cute indeed

[minor badge]

darkeyeknenwald 😳

[quasi valley]

[worn ember]

[heady spear]

Dark is in a commited relationship with his hand, don't encourage cheating D:

[humble falcon]

that concept is too holy for bing

[worn ember]

bing breaks on its own

[humble falcon]

Dark you should probably break up with your hand

[worn ember]

you dont get to decide when i break up with my hand

[humble falcon]

You’re hitting up other objects >:(

[mental meadow]

no kneny is just upside down in general

[minor badge]

[humble falcon]

oh i don’t have nitro i can’t use animations frick

[mental meadow]

[heady spear]

it's because he's too dumb to be upright

[cedar spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390949966480408576/750128406477275186/knenytv2.png

[olive marlin]

Does anyone know how is Lucko named on Spigot hub? I'm trying to find his fork, but I don't see it anywhere. Want to take a look at hist PR from a year ago, but it looks like I don't have access to it or something.

[humble falcon]

wow it’s not in 64K resolution smh my head

[cedar spade]

Spigot hub?

[humble falcon]

I need higher res to appreciate all the beauty

[cedar spade]

wat

[olive marlin]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/

[humble falcon]

yes that is the joke lmao

[mental meadow]

[cedar spade]

his fork of what?

[olive marlin]

Bukkit.

I want this PR: https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/pull-requests/318/overview

[next frost]

Yes

[olive marlin]

But I can't see it.

[minor badge]

@jade mountain you're requested :p

[humble falcon]

smhmh head

[olive marlin]

I didn't want to ping them, otherwise I'd do so in LuckPerms guild 😛

[minor badge]

pff pussy

[cedar spade]

spigithub

[minor badge]

worst case, we waste a minute of his day

[heady spear]

ur good at wasting peoples time

its a talent of urs

[humble falcon]

If he hated pings he would’ve turned them off lmao

[heady spear]

treasure it

[minor badge]

learned from u

[cedar spade]

city stop being mean

[heady spear]

I've never been mean to anyone

[waxen panther]

liar

[mental meadow]

city is the nicest person in the world

[waxen panther]

ur mean to me constantly

[heady spear]

I truly am

the nicest person

not the mean part

ur not allowed to disagree with moderators

[cedar spade]

city you may be mean to Jay, nobody else

[heady spear]

shut up brocc

[waxen panther]

cuz ur annoying lol

[heady spear]

go be useful

[waxen panther]

I’m picking up my lunch

[minor badge]

josh more like john

get fucked

[woven otter]

City is the worst

[waxen panther]

Then I’m going to work on string contexts

[humble falcon]

There isn’t any other jay in here lmao

[waxen panther]

WHO IS JOHN

[minor badge]

u

[heady spear]

duck ur the awfulest

[waxen panther]

How

[woven otter]

Ur ur

[heady spear]

no u

[woven otter]

Ur

[minor badge]

shut up norman john brokkolisen

[heady spear]

nuhuh

[woven otter]

City ur the worst

[heady spear]

also i wont be mean to jay bcuz that'd require me spending time on him and he's not worth my valuable time

I need that time for commands

[minor badge]

cloud

idiot

[humble falcon]

daddy discord they’re bullying pls ban

[minor badge]

im wearing different colour socks city 😔

[heady spear]

cloud is an awful name smh

rocka sockorna

[cedar spade]

*stret

[humble falcon]

imagine not knowing the difference between street ans stret

yes

maybe

probably

idk

imagine killing chat

•~•

[viral hornet]

@twin lagoon 🥺

Can we make this of @quasi valley

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487752962102394881/739012372303314974/video0.mp4

(probably loud warning)

[mental meadow]

Yoshis Island > every other game ever released

[void void]

no

[wide chasm]

Yoshi's Island is good

[vestal jasper]

IDK why I'm surprised but TIL the official youtube channel comments on videos

And apparently someone with access to it watches disguised toast

[spiral sparrow]

umm i know theres a lot of mac users here, do u guys know an alternative to bleachbit (for overwriting deleted files) for mac

[humble falcon]

Any reason why you don't like it? I actually needed something like that cuz i have 2 GB left on my mac

first time i'm hearing about it so idk any alternatives

oh nvm looked it up the point is it's not available on mac lmao

[minor badge]

@vestal jasper toast is epic

[limber knot]

is shred available on mac? if so then that xD

(also don't use that on SSDs 👀 )

[minor badge]

https://owo.whats-th.is/8AydA64.png flushed?

[mighty storm]

nice

[pastel pivot]

Is there really a reason to use volatile or AtomicReference in this answer: https://stackoverflow.com/a/7419139/3882565? To me it seems like there is obviously a happens-before relation because of invokeAndWait or am I wrong? 🤔

[quasi valley]

hey proximsy

look at the reactions again

[minor badge]

no thank

[cedar spade]

mojirawatch had it first :p

[quasi valley]

but will it also have the actual release first?

or does it even do that

[cedar spade]

only checks JIRA, no download API checks (yet)

[quasi valley]

literally unusable

I manually start this to autogen sources, diff viewers, and Via mappings on releases 😂 https://i.imgur.com/5wo4xEt.png

[twin lagoon]

ugh

[mighty storm]

almost lost rory

[twin lagoon]

it better not release now

although i do have my laptop with me

mcdonalds viaversion update

[minor badge]

michale

[twin lagoon]

hewwo

[cedar spade]

literally as I'm updating my server to 1.16.2

[minor badge]

i wuv michale

[cedar spade]

the day

[twin lagoon]

kneny viaversion wen

viaversion 4.0

[quasi valley]

already did the commit 2 days ago lmao

[twin lagoon]

zzzzz

[mighty storm]

didnt .2 have release candidates

[quasi valley]

just not pushed

[twin lagoon]

wtf kneny

keeping updates away from us

so you can benefit

[quasi valley]

I don't run a server

[twin lagoon]

lies

[quasi valley]

well and the one I occasionally help at literally adds 10 protocol versions w bytecode manip

lmao

[mighty storm]

how do you even find the blog on minecraft.net

[minor badge]

@mighty storm 1.16.3 is the first version to have zero snapshots, only rcs

.2 had snapshots before rcs

[mighty storm]

ohh

[minor badge]

or it just had a release, no clue lol

i believe it did snapshots tho

[mighty storm]

it did

what is this

[cedar spade]

the BIG EVENT

@mighty storm go to slep

[mighty storm]

i will, i had to wake up to find rory

https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/753616969294413856

[vernal moth]

Paper 1.16.3 when?!

[mighty storm]

minecraft 1.16.3 when?

[quasi valley]

if it's not gonna be out tomorrow Imma be disappointed lmao

[minor badge]

https://uwu.whats-th.is/7hAXip4.png

here we gooo

[mighty storm]

minidigger banned?

[cedar spade]

@quasi valley via 1.16.3 leak when

[mighty storm]

why is it not bannen minidigger

[quasi valley]

I'll just push it now I guess

haha

[cedar spade]

"to ban Mini"

[minor badge]

you do something to him

[cedar spade]

idk

[minor badge]

essentially, english would prefer "Do you want to ban Mini?" - verb first, abused after; german goes "Willst du Mini bannen?" - abused first, verb after

ig "möchtest" would be better but aaa

[mighty storm]

shes all dirty and cold too

poor baby

[cedar spade]

abused

[mighty storm]

why tf u call it abused instead of subject

[minor badge]

:>

[vernal moth]

Isn't 1.16.3 out?

[mighty storm]

dont think so?

[quasi valley]

just added to the tracker

[vernal moth]

Oh it's just has been added to the tracker

Sorry am early

[mighty storm]

doesnt that just happen before they release

[vernal moth]

I'll be back in 30 minutes

Yeah it's part of the automated release cycle

[scarlet crater]

hi, can I ask about plugins here?

[minor badge]

#paper-help

[mighty storm]

depends

[minor badge]

@mighty storm uwu

[worn ember]

well yes but actually no

[worn pasture]

well owo but actually uwu

[cedar spade]

knuwuny

[worn ember]

Youtube: So i know you saw this video like yesterday, but do you want to watch it again?

[mighty storm]

oop @quasi valley thats +1 day to whatever kash was talking about

[worn ember]

real luck typing

[jade mountain]

Does anyone know how is Lucko named on Spigot hub? I'm trying to find his fork, but I don't see it anywhere. Want to take a look at hist PR from a year ago, but it looks like I don't have access to it or something.
@olive marlin I think this is what you're after?! https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/users/luck/repos/bukkit/browse

[quasi valley]

[mighty storm]

Luck was typing? 👀

omh

[jade mountain]

although worth noting none of the code for my open PRs has been touched in years lol

[minor badge]

only paper knows how to merge

[jade mountain]

basically

[mighty storm]

yessss pr paper 😄

[worn ember]

merging is overrated anyway

[mighty storm]

speaking of merging proxi

[minor badge]

noo

[twin lagoon]

merging proxi

[olive marlin]

Luck, is your repo private?

[quasi valley]

looks at 80 open Paper prs

[minor badge]

i have to do schoolwork

[twin lagoon]

[worn ember]

just copy code to master like Ivan

[jade mountain]

I don't think so?

[olive marlin]

Cause I still can't see it from your URL.

[quasi valley]

you need an account to view forks

[mighty storm]

4213 :3

[olive marlin]

I have an account.

[quasi valley]

you can't access forks at all :D

[jade mountain]

oh seems it is

[mighty storm]

wtf yall on

[jade mountain]

try again now

[olive marlin]

I can see Demon, Mini etc forks

[quasi valley]

yeah it's public now

[mighty storm]

yay

[olive marlin]

Yay!

[jade mountain]

had to tick this

https://i.imgur.com/0GtqCjf.png

\o/

[vernal moth]

Oh yes, my spigot stash projects

[olive marlin]

Would you mind if I PRed your patch to Paper?

[mighty storm]

dang it's all the .java code

no patches

[olive marlin]

With you as owner 🙂

[worn pasture]

[mighty storm]

hell ye

[vernal moth]

It's old chew, that's how we did stuff back in the day

[jade mountain]

go for it 🙂

[worn ember]

what does that even do?

[olive marlin]

I want to fix async commands not working with RCON.. Though I expected something different from https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/users/luck/repos/bukkit/commits/83ca25c74ef8f4553ceb7cee2dd45fd51834cd83 🙂

[jade mountain]

you need the craftbukkit code too

[mighty storm]

i miss the days where you didnt need patches

[olive marlin]

Oh, right. Forgot it's split.

[jade mountain]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/users/luck/repos/craftbukkit/commits/5e079594ac101744a67d5a5218134b3b3d592e54

[mighty storm]

Might take a nap

[worn ember]

thats illegal

[mighty storm]

I agree

[olive marlin]

Hmm, I expected some way that doesn't introduce the API change and is transparent. Though, I guess if you spawn tasks in your async command executor, then it can't possibly know whether it has more data to come or not.

[jade mountain]

yeah, that's why the intents are needed

you'll also notice (assuming it hasn't changed) that there is some special code in paper to make the timings paste command play nicely with rcon

the API kinda mimics that but makes the same functionality available to plugins too

[olive marlin]

Anyway, will try to port it to current Paper and keep my fingers crossed, hoping one day LP will use it and I won't have to login each time I touch perms.

[quasi valley]

oh no it's out

[worn ember]

your dad is out of jail?

[restive thicket]

1.16.3?

It's probably just a protocol bump though, compared to 1.16.3-rc1.

[quasi valley]

Via support out before Fabricord announced it

easy

[restive thicket]

lol

[worn ember]

do you have RSS feed directly to mojang HQ or something?

[limber knot]

why is the minecraft.net site so shit

do they really not have an article overview page?!?

[worn ember]

or proper localization

[limber knot]

idc for anything but english lol

[worn ember]

yeah except its always in german for me

no one except like 20 people even speak german in belgium

[limber knot]

it's always english for me (in Germany) lol

I assume they base it on my browser language

[worn ember]

[limber knot]

might want to check if you ahve German set as an available language

[worn ember]

where do you even set that on chrome

oh apparently languages is advanced options

[limber knot]

yeah: https://is.papr.best/fGlCEVuO.png

[worn ember]

is that chrome? i dont hve that

[limber knot]

it's chromium

[worn ember]

its only like spellings preferences

[limber knot]

did you open the menu?

[worn ember]

ok i'm actually stupid

yeah german was in there for some reason

that fixed it thnx

[twin lagoon]

yeet got home just in time for 1.16.3

now to update viaversion

[worn ember]

its already updated

[twin lagoon]

not on my servers

[worn ember]

oh

do people play on them?

[twin lagoon]

@quasi valley KENNY

https://owo.whats-th.is/6SirfaW.png

oh it's viabackwards

FUCK

NEVERMIND KENNY

[quasi valley]

YOU CAN'T EVEN UPDATE 2 PLUGINS MICHALE

YOU ABSOLUTE 🐌

[twin lagoon]

e a s y

[peak gulch]

its official

[void void]

PaPeR 1.16.3 WhEn???////

[peak gulch]

LMAOOO

[waxen panther]

monkaw boiz hold on to ur hats

[shadow flame]

C a N i G e T a N ETA????

[austere ivy]

where do you see 1.16.3 out at?

didn't find it on reddit or minecraft.net

[shadow flame]

minecraft & velocity discord

[twin lagoon]

viaversion is most reliable

™️

[waxen panther]

velocity

[shadow flame]

it's a pretty small one it seems

[void void]

@austere ivy https://www.minecraft.net/ru-ru/article/minecraft-java-edition-1-16-3

[austere ivy]

thank you!

[limber knot]

ru-ru

still displays in english

[shadow flame]

one of the bugs is already non-existant on paper, so w/e

[void void]

1 bug fix

kek

[shadow flame]

[void void]

Is Mojang want to make 1.16.10?

Like, 1.16.1 fixed 6 bugs

And 1.16.3 only 2

[quasi valley]

.1 fixed a realms bug

[shadow flame]

I'm down

[void void]

Yeah, but it also fixed 5 other bugs

[quasi valley]

no, .1 fixed a realms bug and literally nothing else sorry am dum

[shadow flame]

gimme those silly version numbers

[wide chasm]

Does 1.16.3 actually introduce a protocol version change?

[quasi valley]

yes

[wide chasm]

Blegh

[quasi valley]

Via updated already, so no problem ;)

[wide chasm]

I expected nothing less from you 🙂

[void void]

1.16.4
-Fixed 0 bugs

1.16.5
-Added 2 bugs

1.16.6
etc...

[fallen oracle]

Rip so they didn't put in the patch for the spawner stuff?

[void void]

wdym?

[twin lagoon]

from the looks of it

no

[fallen oracle]

Rip people's hard drives

[shadow flame]

what???

what bug?

I want my GBs

dun take em

[twin lagoon]

there's a bug related to spawners where it spews errors and fills the logs

[shadow flame]

oh oki

tnx

[vernal moth]

They don't really develop on the 1.16 branch anymore

[quasi valley]

is that for iron golems or more than that?

[vernal moth]

I wouldn't surprised to see announcement for snapshots at minecon

[quasi valley]

very likely, as always :p

[vernal moth]

That bug is marked as fixed for 1.17

[twin lagoon]

kneny 🐌

[fallen oracle]

Well, darn, if there's another NMS change, I'm going to cry.

[vernal moth]

Well, names most likely changed

[fallen oracle]

I mean the R1 to R2

He said he stopped doing that and then started doing it again.

[quasi valley]

so he stopped stopped doing that

[fallen oracle]

But he didn't.

There's literally a R1 and R2 for 1.16

[limber knot]

1.16.2 is literally a major release - new features

so that makes sense

or well, "- new gameplay features"

[fallen oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-adventure-time-lemongrab-freakout-armflail-gif-5515437

[void void]

Mojang prob release 1.16.3 so normies wouldn't ask "WhY Do BeDROck haZ 1.16.3 and JaVA ONLI 1.16.2??///"

[heady spear]

why is kenny so good at pl0gins but so bad at being good

[jovial cloak]

Thinking of, how well do the various proxies that allow Bedrock clients to connect to Java servers work in terms of gameplay features?

Things like minecarts, mobs, etc

[limber knot]

they are pretty good but have minor quirks

your main issue will be anti cheat plugins

as the bedrock player behaves slightly different

[vernal moth]

They got pretty good now

[jovial cloak]

not so much an issue for whitelisted servers though I gather

[vernal moth]

Geyser is amazing

[limber knot]

you don't want to use them anywhere than your own server or with their fake-uuid setting anyways

providing your mojang account login data to a third party server is sketchy af

[vernal moth]

Oh yeah, I "play" on a server with a few ppl, helen, ex java cm, was online for days with her switch without a disconnect and other issues

[jovial cloak]

ah definitely

[limber knot]

I have a ticket open with geyser/floodgate to force people to link their mojang account via the mojang client or maybe another website so that's a thing which will eventually allow one to properly use that on public servers

[latent valve]

1.16.3 when

[quasi valley]

@heady spear rood

[vernal moth]

I mean

I wouldn't get my hopes up for that on mojang accounts

Since they don't even have 2fa

But

[quasi valley]

👁‍🗨

[worn ember]

j11 support when

[vernal moth]

Yeah, because bedrock uses proper mircosoft accounts

If only java could too

[worn ember]

inb4 you cant log in to your mc account cuz your MS account doesnt meet security settings from your institute

actually happend with my mail

[vernal moth]

Why could you use your uni msa?

For gaming

[worn ember]

they're linked together

i have 2 accounts on this pc

but ig it would only apply for mail on that account ig

you never know with MS tho

[vernal moth]

I can't even link my work msa to anything, lol

[worn ember]

they do some weird shit

[vernal moth]

I actually have 4 msa

One private, one uni, one work as an admin/dev and one work as a normal customer ^^

[worn ember]

actually yeah, they're just mail accounts i think

[twin lagoon]

i have 2

hope to keep it that way

[vernal moth]

Oh wait, I had 5, since I had office365 on a buisness account with my own mail

[twin lagoon]

Our records indicate your account used a greater number of Access seats than you were permitted to use in August.

omfg cloudflare atleast tell me what account

[twin lagoon]

i have like 22 added to my cf account

[worn ember]

it literally wont let you use your mail if you dont meet the security settings on that account tho

which is stupid

they also dont tell you what's wrong

just that you're not "secure enough"

[viral hornet]

@quasi valley 1.16.3 wen

🥺

[void void]

🐌

[twin lagoon]

🐌

[heady spear]

@mental meadow how r u today?

[mellow lintel]

wait, 1.16.3 was released?

when?

[worn ember]

Yes

[olive marlin]

Why is MySQL so damn limited in what it can do? I know nothing about Postgres, but looking at the docs, I might be better off learning it rather than fighting with MySQL.

[worn ember]

wut

they're both SQL based

[twin lagoon]

they can do different things though

[olive marlin]

Yeah, but have different syntax.

[twin lagoon]

postgresql is nuts

[worn ember]

i havent had any issues with limitations using mysql

[olive marlin]

Like, in postgres I can do: INSERT INTO guild_info (guild_id) VALUES (?) ON CONFLICT DO NOTHING - with MySQL I can't do that.

I can ignore invalid (so also conflicting) entries, but this will also ignore other errors.

[worn ember]

on duplicate update

[olive marlin]

But that does delete, then insert - which causes cascade delete to trigger.

[cunning raft]

paper eta when??!1!/ i try to update but it say outdate serve11!

[worn ember]

that makes no sense

then the id would be different

[olive marlin]

What?

[cunning raft]

and yeah when would you conflict

you shouldn't be doing id-less tables

[worn ember]

if its autoincrement and you say it deletes and inserts then the pk would be different

[cunning raft]

(ideally)

[olive marlin]

Assume I have:

CREATE TABLE guild_info (
  guild_id BIGINT NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY (guild_id)
);

CREATE TABLE commands (
  command_id BIGINT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
  guild_id BIGINT NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY (command_id),
  FOREIGN KEY (guild_id)
    REFERENCES guild_info (guild_id)
    ON UPDATE NO ACTION
    ON DELETE CASCADE
);

If I do INSERT INTO guild_info (guild_id) VALUES (?) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE, it will first delete entry from guild_info, which will cascade and delete entries from commands - and then it'll re-insert the entry to guild_info

[worn ember]

thats kinda stoopid

[cunning raft]

kinda bad db structure imo

but all its really doing is creating shortcut syntax

[mental meadow]

@heady spear stressed and woke up with a mild co2 poisoning so yeah

Wbu

[heady spear]

lol ivan is being homophobic and telling people to go in their graves

spigot mods are not on top of it

[waxen panther]

spigot mods

[heady spear]

I've been working way too much this week and I'm so exhausted D: Barely had time to sleep

[twin lagoon]

uhoh

[worn ember]

ok

[heady spear]

but also how the hell did you get co2 poisoning? do you sleep in an enclosed box?

[waxen panther]

yes ?

[worn ember]

sleeping in a coffin in case you dont wake up

ez transport

[cedar spade]

woo guess who just updated to the latest version of Minecraft, 1.16.2- ffs Mojang

[worn ember]

who?

[cedar spade]

guess

[worn ember]

MD*.

[limber knot]

I'm glad they released it, now I can update to 1.16.2 as I always stay one version behind

[slender jay]

i wonder how many things mojang broke this time

[worn ember]

hopefully less than they fixed

[olive marlin]

WTF, nevermind. Apparently I didn't notice in the thread about INSERT IGNORE INTO and INSERT ... ON CONFLICT UPDATE, they sneak in REPLACE command. I guess that means I need to take a break from this DB stuff.

:derp:

[worn ember]

relational db's are literal aids

[cedar spade]

*mysql

[worn ember]

not like the structure changes at all lmao

for other sql dialects

[hallow swallow]

is it possible to prevent this kind of xray for spawners and caves

[olive marlin]

All databases are shit.

Add air to the list of hidden blocks? I forgot when exactly it triggers.

There's a pin in #paper-help , which explains it a bit better.

You can - and our anti-xray lord stona96 described its pros and cons. I just don't remember them 😁

[mental meadow]

but also how the hell did you get co2 poisoning? do you sleep in an enclosed box?
Someone decided to close my window and door and every other window in the apartment in the middle of the night and apparently that was already enough

[twin lagoon]

aurora wtf

:(((

[worn ember]

or you have a leak somewhere

are you sure its Co² for all you know you got a gasleak

[woven otter]

yes cobalt

[minor badge]

when the cobalt is squared 😳

[woven otter]

it's dark

[muted portal]

Hey who do I talk to if I want to annoy someone about 1.16.3?

[cedar spade]

You don't

[olive marlin]

Proxi thanks for recommending Rust. The crates can do so much magic - I love how sqlx verifies on compile that my syntax is correct for the DB it will be used with.

[muted portal]

Well I’ve come to annoy all of you

1.16.3

Ok there it is

That’s all

[twin lagoon]

k

[muted portal]

Thanks for listening

[peak gulch]

where ❗ read-me❗ channel HUH???

[viral hornet]

@quasi valley thanks kenny ❤️

LOVE U

[mental meadow]

are you sure its Co² for all you know you got a gasleak
Since we don't have gas that's a bit unrealistic :D

[next wind]

You dont have carbon monoxide, right?

[worn ember]

idk what the fuck they did to intellij but god, it literally freezes every time i touch the material enum

it used to be fine

its only like 8k lines

[minor badge]

downgrade

they fucked smth in latest release

[worn ember]

yeah i might aswel at this rate

i think .2 introduced it

they did some changes to indexing or something

[slim nymph]

relational db's are literal aids
@worn ember gl finding a job saying shit like this

screams incompetence

as you progress, youll learn why document based DB's are harder to work with and why relational is better.

[worn ember]

i can use them

i just find them a shitfest to work with

¯_(ツ)_/¯

its easier with ORM's but still

designing the db and setting relations etc is still a PITA

and if a potential employer looks in the paper discord i have other things to worry about tbh

[vernal moth]

You just miss experience

For me, designing a DB is as easy or hard as designing my data structure in java

[worn ember]

well yeah, i never had any courses on it, only how to normalize and how to do DML and DQL nothing about DDL and the like

however when doing it with plugins it was yuck

still better than firebase or mongo

[ashen cliff]

Things I wish I didn't see today:

[worn ember]

smd's?

[ashen cliff]

It's the controller for an UPS. I really really really hopped it would be an analog circuit.

But sadly not. It least the in circuit debugger pins are right there.

[vernal moth]

Is that condensator on the top right supposed to look so funny?

[twin lagoon]

hot glue

[vernal moth]

Is that glue?

[ashen cliff]

Epoxy.

[twin lagoon]

close enough

[ashen cliff]

There is also a RS232 chip connected to it, but no output.

Just need to remove the 5 minute limit.

[vagrant marlin]

1.16.9 update when smh /s

[worn ember]

yeah gl debugging that

[ashen cliff]

I can somewhat bypass it/fool it. It's just stupid.
Currently I just added another smaller UPS, that after 4 minutes of no power, outputs power to the bigger UPS, restarting the timer.

[worn ember]

why is it on a 5 min timer anyway

[ashen cliff]

"Enough time to write cache to disk."

[worn ember]

ig that makes sense

still, you should be in control of that

or at least be able to turn it off

[ashen cliff]

You are never in control of enterprise gear.

And now it's even worse, everything is going cloud managed.

[worn ember]

well at least you dont need to care about UPS's then

[zealous wedge]

lol UPSes are never gonna go away

[ashen cliff]

INB4:

Battery license expired. Please purchase additional battery life.*
Actually battery sold separately.

[zealous wedge]

not everything can be done in the cloud

[worn ember]

just run the cloud on the cloud

[ashen cliff]

Run everything on laptops.

EuroCom advertised their laptop servers as having build in UPSs.

[heady spear]

not everything can be done in the cloud
uh yes the cloud is the future smh

[zealous wedge]

I mean people do that with like isadora and qlab lol, sticking them on laptops

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2020-09-10_19-25-10.png

[heady spear]

isadora is a swedish makeup brand

y would they be using ups

[zealous wedge]

isadora is also video software

[heady spear]

laptop with integrated display and keyboard

wow

revolutionary

[void void]

woooow

[worn ember]

i wish swedes came with integrated brain

[void void]

apple macbook pros with display sold separately when

[heady spear]

why is amanda cerny in this movie

and why is she allowed to be this hot

ew king bach

[magic river]

This is the best gaming monitor money can buy: https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn950-b-gaming-monitor

IPS with TN-level G2G times, 4k144, HDR600

[twin lagoon]

and it's non-curved

[magic river]

It just came out, it's sold out everywhere

It's also $800

[twin lagoon]

would be a very future proof monitor

[limber knot]

only 144Hz smh

[cedar spade]

next you're gonna be telling me laptops have integrated motherboards too

[magic river]

It'd be a good print work monitor too, 98% DCI-P3 coverage

[limber knot]

"Virtually Borderless Display" my ass

I can see the borders in the pictures

[ashen cliff]

*Only if you are virtually blind.

[magic river]

Have you seen a normal monitor border?

[twin lagoon]

holy fuck it's 1000 EUR here

lmao

[magic river]

That's a super thin bezel

[limber knot]

I just got this one today: https://amazon.de/gp/product/B078S36XWV xD

because I'm cheap af

[twin lagoon]

meh, for 140 eur you could've gotten an ips

[limber knot]

looks fine to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[left swift]

A laptop server what

The fuck

[ashen cliff]

Still wanting a OLED display for cheap.

[magic river]

I've got two of these right now https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0148NNKTC

[left swift]

I feel like that thing would melt through a desk

[magic river]

OLED is like plasma, looks great but not for long

Also stupidly overpriced

[ashen cliff]

The new ones are "ok", since they do wear leveling.

[magic river]

New what?

[ashen cliff]

New OLED displays.

New.

[magic river]

I thought everyone stopped making plasma... oh

Wear leveling is table stakes, plasma was doing that for like 8 years before it died out

It also just ensures the whole monitor looks like ass over time instead of different parts of it looking like ass ahead of others

That's why 2-4 year old smartphones with OLED displays are never in Good or Mint condition on resale websites, the screens are always dim, tinted, have burn in, or all three

[worn ember]

on my plasma you can see the channel logo's burned in

and the strokes from subtitles

[ashen cliff]

Don't have any of those issues on my OP5, since I use a low brightness.

[worn ember]

its like 7 years old tho

[ashen cliff]

Same goes for my normal monitors, never above 20% brightness. Since my room is nice and dim.

[magic river]

I leave my monitors on "eco" mode unless I'm playing a dark game

But yeah, I've had these monitors for 4 years, they're still pretty decent but I really want 4K

[twin lagoon]

i don't think i'd buy 4k

scaling sucks

[magic river]

I've accepted I'm going to have to get 27", thinking I might try for one of those new LG ones and just upgrade one at a time

[worn ember]

i'm not buying 4k till its standard

[twin lagoon]

^

[ashen cliff]

I only use my 4k screen to show 4x1080p images for servers/test rigs.

[magic river]

Scaling only sucks because it shows you how bad everything you used to look at is

[worn ember]

do you really need 4k tho

[magic river]

4K lets you do perfect 2x scaling so you don't get any weirdness, apps that don't support 4K just look like 1080p apps and thus blurry

[twin lagoon]

the difference between 4k and 1080p / 1440p is amazing though

[magic river]

But on your 1080p screen everything looked like that

[worn ember]

just make everything vector based, ez

[limber knot]

M​ic​ha​el​: can't really find an IPS with the same specs in that price range, lol

[twin lagoon]

uwot

sec

[pastel pivot]

Lol, a random guy on the mc@h discord just found the painting seed. It's not not published yet.

[twin lagoon]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07SPCWZHP 1440p even

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07ZTJXBJW/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=23.8“+1080p+ips&qid=1599760418&sr=8-7

[limber knot]

oh wait, they just suck at providing their data

[magic river]

Amazon is the worst place to shop for things like this

I go to newegg to find what I want then comparison shop on other sites using the model number

[limber knot]

always had issues with newegg's website, lol

[magic river]

pcpartpicker is a good place to start too

It'll even comparison shop for you

[twin lagoon]

i just use the dutch price comparison website for hardware

and then try to find it on other sites if it's for someone not dutch

[limber knot]

main issue I have is that I can't find a good source for not officially "G-Sync Compatible" G-Sync compatible monitors xD

[twin lagoon]

pcpartpicker is garbage compared to it

[worn ember]

i always buy my shit on Alternate

[magic river]

There is a spreadsheet people share around for that one

[twin lagoon]

i buy stuff at amazon quite often

good support, low pricing

[magic river]

They test freesync monitors and report whether they work with gsync forced on or not

[limber knot]

hm, the german comparison site only shows me 5 ones with these settings and all of them are 27" :S meanwhile I can find others on amazon xD

[magic river]

That's the big problem, seems like amazon has more variety than anyone else

But you have to sift through shit to find the pearls

[limber knot]

I mean that site is meant to merge everything into one so that you can compare prices

I assume they just don't have all the properties put into

[vernal moth]

try the other comparison site

theres geizhals and idealo

[magic river]

Yeah but some of the stuff on Amazon is done so poorly you have to go through it manually to figure out wtf is going on

Like the only actual panel info will be in an image or something

[limber knot]

yeah, the fun thing about the monitor on amazon is that the product title isn't even the monitor name

[twin lagoon]

if you're willing to use google translate

https://tweakers.net/monitoren/vergelijken/#filter:TYxBCoMwEEXvMutUMolGyQEEF125LF0EHUqKVkmklIp376RC7Wr477_5K0yhp1B7GnqwMAd_jyB22E5hYeZi9yMzdQ17JxQwuxu1_k1gCynSY0dn_wDLIbJW-2GhEMGugLmS6Y6pBqWzivdG90qhzCRsIikmKU83gL0AGszZ0aVGuH5rXfzVCo3auSnwWDby2K14dts-

[limber knot]

it's bizzare

[twin lagoon]

hands-on the best comparison site i've used

[limber knot]

hm, all the ones with a comparable price are either 23,5" or 27" with Full HD :S

23,5/"true" 24

[magic river]

btw that LG monitor's range is 48-144Hz

So as long as you get minimum frame rates of 48 you're golden

Although it should also support showing the same image multiple frames if you go lower since it's G-Sync and FreeSync Premium certified

So you could go below 48 but then you basically get 24 and that's too slow

[limber knot]

which one do you mean?

[mighty storm]

When was 1.16.3 tf

[limber knot]

couple hours ago

3 1/2

[mighty storm]

Damn I was aslee

[zealous wedge]

@mighty storm go to sleep

[mighty storm]

nah

Sleeping sucks I miss things

[zealous wedge]

cries

[mighty storm]

Tonight I will not sleep

[left swift]

Unsleep

[mighty storm]

indeed

I do microsleeps

Eyes closed = sleeping

So every minute, spend 20 seconds with eyes closed

That adds up to 8 hours after a day

[left swift]

Smh cant believe people dont understand this easy math

[chrome flame]

lol

[twin lagoon]

oh shit oh fuck

windows 10 insider preview release

you can mount disks with wsl2 and view in explorer

so you can mount ext4 drives

[mighty storm]

ew what happened to powershell

[left swift]

Michael happened to it

[twin lagoon]

that's windows terminal

and hidpi scaling

[mighty storm]

what lang is used in command prompt

[vernal moth]

batch

[left swift]

English

[vernal moth]

why do you use PS in windows terminal?

I mean

my windows terminal defaults to ubuntu 😄

https://streamable.com/8l2e0i

[twin lagoon]

mine defaults to arch

[quasi valley]

🐌

[vernal moth]

I prolly should switch to arch to

before canonical snaps apt

(pun intended)

[mighty storm]

speaking of snap, my vps doesnt even support it

[twin lagoon]

good

snap sucks

whoever decided to use snap over apt at canonical can be fired instantly

debian > ubuntu

[mighty storm]

isnt ubutnu built on debian

[restive thicket]

Yeah.

[cedar spade]

since when did ubuntu prefer snap now?

[mighty storm]

it doesnt, not for me at least

especially considering it doesnt work for me lol

[fallen oracle]

Hope everyone is having a good day

[twin lagoon]

it prefers snaps for applications on desktop atleast

not for servers yet

[mighty storm]

hi glare :3

[twin lagoon]

although it does install lxc/lxd with snaps on servers by default

[waxen panther]

kill snap 🦀 kill snap

[mighty storm]

ye my vps is lxc

[twin lagoon]

snap snap

[mighty storm]

no docker or snap

[left swift]

Snap trap crap yap tap lap

[merry talon]

How have they consistently made IFTTT worse with every update?

[limber knot]

sounds normal for any platform that started out working great

[left swift]

Innovation™️

[merry talon]

The 'create your own' button is buried in a weird spot in like 3 sub menus

[worn ember]

PoopSoup™️

[merry talon]

Not even the functionality just the app itself

Is unusable

[left swift]

User error

[limber knot]

yeah, their web interface is pretty garbage nowadays

and I think the app was even worse

[twin lagoon]

i very much like zapier @merry talon

give that a try

great piece of software, just wish the free limits were better

[merry talon]

its $$$

[twin lagoon]

it has a free plan

which may or may not be enough

[cedar spade]

pretty sure it's still far better than that brief time they rebranded it to IF

and stripped most the functionality out of the app

[merry talon]

yeah I think for what I wanted I had to pay zapier almost 3 figures

[cedar spade]

at least I couldn't find it then and gave up using it, I assume when they rebranded back to IFTTT they made it a bit better

[merry talon]

lol I forgot about that

[mighty storm]

https://twitter.com/SpigotDrama/status/1304117436006895618?s=20 ooof leaking

SpigotDrama (@SpigotDrama)

Chew releases ideas of EngineHub for $400

Twitter

[spiral sparrow]

@void void do you think i tis worth it to triple boot windows linux and mac

maybe i should hack in tosh

[void void]

idk use whatever works for you

[spiral sparrow]

would you triple boot

[void void]

i did

[limber knot]

welp fucking arch doesnt have the latest discord in repo yet

so can't even open it because discord is stupid

[void void]

ripcord time

[limber knot]

does that violate TOS

[void void]

some call it shady

i've used ripcord for years

nothing has happened to me

[spiral zinc]

they don't care

[mighty storm]

well

[quasi valley]

reports mikro

[spiral zinc]

it is against the ToS but they don't enforce it

[mighty storm]

ripcord is safer than betterdiscord technically

since betterdiscord is explicitly banned while ripcord is "Please dont use 🥺"

[limber knot]

some discord devs even helped regarding api stuff iirc

[spiral zinc]

no they're both as equally violating

[limber knot]

god damn it and my kernel updated so i cant even download ripcord, what a morning already kekw

time to reboot

[void void]

simple

just use aur package

[spiral zinc]

anything that isn't the official discord client is against tos

[mighty storm]

@spiral zinc no, there is nowhere in the TOS that says you cant make your own client

[limber knot]

use 6cord 👀

yea shits going silly, gpg failed

there is

[void void]

lmao

[limber knot]

guarantee itll work after reboot

you aren't allowed to reverse engineer their non-public API

[void void]

well appimage will work fine

[mighty storm]

but everything you need is public

[limber knot]

but they don't ban usage of third party clients so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

provided that you can get fuse up and running

[spiral zinc]

@spiral zinc no, there is nowhere in the TOS that says you cant make your own client
@mighty storm all custom clients are against TOS

[mighty storm]

where?

show me

[void void]

anyway, i don't get those people who'll report others for using 3rd party clients

[potent fossil]

Already rebooting, it'll be fine

[void void]

does that kind of bootlicking give you like

[limber knot]

no they aren't, TOS does not forbid usage of custom clients at all

[void void]

extra points? nitro boost?

[mighty storm]

I can tell you 100% modifying the discord client is against ToS

but using your own, ok

[void void]

i bet it doesn't so what's the fuckin point

[mighty storm]

and, to add to that, AUTOMATING your account is against the tos as well, but using a client isn't "automating" it

[potent fossil]

Oh my God shut up weirdos resume your previous discussion

[limber knot]

if they wanted to ban people using ripcord then they could do so simply by banning anyone who connects with the ripcord user agent

[mighty storm]

implying they know how to do that (jk discord ily dont ban)

[limber knot]

and then the cat and mouse game would be on

so it's pointless anyways

[worn ember]

or just be one of those chads and use a relay to connect to discord

[mighty storm]

I used to use discordIRCd

which basically was an irc network for a specific server

[limber knot]

yeah, I'll have to setup something like that in the future lol

[mighty storm]

it's kinda dead, I don't know any js to work on it though

[potent fossil]

Wtf that exists? I've been making a project like that for a while 💀

[left swift]

A discord server to send messages to irc which sends the messages to paper irc which sends messages here

[mighty storm]

https://github.com/creesch/discordIRCd

oh nvm it's dead dead

[limber knot]

afaik there is a libpurple discord adapter too

[potent fossil]

Well, at least it once worked so I could just fork that. The hardest part was dealing with the irc protocol 🤧

[limber knot]

and there are tons of other irc-discord connectors lol

[mighty storm]

yeah it still works fairly well

[void void]

.g emacs discord client

pls

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/Mstrodl/elcord -- Mstrodl/elcord: Discord Rich Presence / Gamebridge ... -...: "Show off your emacs-savy ways to all your Discord friends and strangers. This package will connect with a local Discord client to update your status..."

[spiral zinc]

I can tell you 100% modifying the discord client is against ToS
https://imgur.com/cHDaV8W.png

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002192352-Automated-user-accounts-self-bots-

[mighty storm]

if you toss ircv3 stuff in there it'll be indistrinsusiable

[spiral zinc]

custom clients are under "automation"

[mighty storm]

yes, by word of mouth only

[void void]

wat

[limber knot]

no they aren't

custom clients don't automated anything

[potent fossil]

Well, the gpg key required by ripcord can't be downloaded, some key server failure. So I'll just switch back on to discord canary I guess till arch decides to update

[spiral zinc]

no

[mighty storm]

according to the clause "We have the right to terminate your account for any reason", they can say "This is banned" and suddenly it's banned

[spiral zinc]

that's where they put them