lol, that reminds me of my mate who would run around calling everybody a mong, but go crazy at anybody using the famous r word
#general
golden gust
minor badge
you're monged cat
golden gust
wow, paper 2.0
worn ember
calling someone a mongodb is quite offensive tho
mighty storm
What is paper 2.0
golden gust
community rules u dum
quasi valley
community rules are just paper with extra steps
worn ember
no rules are easier to moderate
worn ember
they need a whole wordlist
golden gust
.leaf
limber knotBOT
mighty storm
Tf is a webm
static badge
let's start with the phrase "cat you're good at this"
still cape
for fun-sounding insult try pusillanimous
golden gust
Welcome to the internet chew
mighty storm
Webm are like flash they don't work on iOS
zealous wedge
ur a webm
golden gust
literally nobody says that anyways
minor badge
if ur OS' builtin tools dont support webms theyre kinda 
golden gust
apple not supporting webm is just stupid
mighty storm
Isn't it google's
static badge
ok
zealous wedge
people still use iOS?
static badge
how about "cat one of these days you'll git gud"
mighty storm
We also don't support OGGs
minor badge
i wonder if windows' whatever do
peak dirge
Safari doesn't support WebP 
mighty storm
what's WebP
peak dirge
even Firefox supports it now, wtf is Apple doing
zealous wedge
ogg has been around forever who tf doesn't support it
minor badge
web peepee
worn ember
an extention
golden gust
Gotta use safari for amazon, netflix too iirc
mighty storm
No?
ashen cliff
Should be supported in Safari 14.
mighty storm
I was able to watch Netflix on Vivaldi
golden gust
Like, it's a nice player for just playing movies, etc; But literally just fucking useless
worn ember
quicktime LOL god i fucking hated that crap
minor badge
vivaldi spoofs its user agent, chew
static badge
why do you use macs
golden gust
and they killed off the stuff that the community expansion pack offers
peak dirge
QuickTime is
mighty storm
Well yeah so does safari
golden gust
Coz it's the sanest OS to me to use daily
I use mpv/plex for playing media that I download these days, tbqh
minor badge
ive no clue what safari does lol
static badge
it's also the worst OS in the history of the known universe
mighty storm
Just a web browser by Apple
peak dirge
Sadly, Safari is a significant component of the mobile web browser market... so you have to support it if you want to do mobile stuff.
void void
does anyone here use Sublime Text as an IDE?
minor badge
i'd rather use macOS than Windows any day of the week
mighty storm
Yeah you're forced to use Apple's WebKit I believe
ashen cliff
Well. It can be one.
golden gust
for stuff like PHP, sure, if you don't have jetbrains stuff
worn ember
we used sublime for web stuff in hs cuz their crap macs couldnt run anything heavier
golden gust
But, if you have jetbrains stuff ๐คทโโ๏ธ
void void
i use clion for c++ development, vs for c#, etc
jetbrains stuff has been a little heavy
idk
golden gust
It uses more resources because of the stuff they do to make it faster and more responsive
I mean, you use VS
peak dirge
Yeah. Windows is pretty insecure and bloated, macOS is better in this regard and the UI isn't as user-hostile. Linux is in a bad spot desktop-wise though...
worn ember
laughs in Material enum crashing your ide
peak dirge
also Windows is user-hostile
golden gust
My trick is to accidently cause the IDE to decompile the material enum
lean kiln
macos is gettting worse in that regard if you look at what we were talking about in paper-dev
but still better than windows
void void
all OSes are shit tbh
peak dirge
well, and macOS is also getting more user-hostile now
golden gust
Apple do a lot of research in terms of user experience, etc
void void
Windows is shit
macOS is ok but you need to spend so much or you can hackintosh but they can be pretty fucked up
Linux is shit
golden gust
Part of the downfall is that they make apps for your average end user and not us techies, which often means total arse
slim nymph
you watch that damn mouth ๐ก
mighty storm
Bad takes
peak dirge
given the choices I have, I'm going with Linux
lean kiln
they definetely didnt research how annoying it is that unsigned apps automatically prompt tomove to trash
slim nymph
linux master race
lean kiln
that one pisses me off a lot lol
void void
@peak dirge what are your issues with linux?
peak dirge
@golden gust But all the JavaScript developers love their overheating MacBook Pros!
golden gust
If you compare buy cost of comparative hardware/build quality to those of windows machines, you'll find that they're at the same price point roughly
worn ember
tbh windows honestly isn't that bad if you look over the million little flaws 
void void
@golden gust if you hackintosh yeah but some hardware dont support hackintosh or you just cant make the fullest use of your machine
lean kiln
i never use my mbp because the keyboard sucks ass
golden gust
If you're comparing a MBP against a walmart laptop, then you're for out of the realm
zealous wedge
macs are also losing out on the professional market where they used to be quite strong
golden gust
Their older keyboards are nice, I've not tested the newer keyboards, but, if it's anything like my new magic keyboard, some level of bleh
worn ember
i used macOS in hs for graphical design and i hated it the whole ecosystem is just ugh
peak dirge
@void void Lots of little issues, but it largely boils down to the massive array of choice that makes it hard to deliver a decent UI/UX.
lean kiln
the newest 2020 macbooks have a good keyboard
zealous wedge
so much of the software i use for work that has historically been very mac-heavy has been moving away, since it seems like every new macOS release the software is broken for ages
lean kiln
but I have a model where if u get dust in it it breaks and the key travel is like 1 mm
minor badge
ngl i'd consider getting a macbook if it wasn't for the price when the same price for base model pro could get me a very good laptop for just using linux on
golden gust
and no, there's actually been a few dozen articles on the price difference between apple hardware and other manfs, afaik there is still a level of the mac comes out more, but, when you actually compare hardware and build quality together, the mac is actually pretty competitive
peak dirge
For instance, I often use TeXstudio to write up documents (often math homework). It uses a Qt-based interface. My desktop is GNOME 3 and I use a dark theme. TeXstudio uses a very ugly light theme that has a big contrast to the rest of my desktop.
golden gust
The thing is that many manfs don't really care about making hardware that's crazily built these days
Take a look at the cost of a proper thinkpad vs the likes of LGs flexable laptops
static pilot
Fucked up refresh rate isnt a minor issue > : (
peak dirge
golden gust
My thing with linux is the cost investment of getting everything "just right"
zealous wedge
tex in sth that's not vim? what
golden gust
fucking up, having to reinstall something, and then crying
lean kiln
ive had to fix issues fromupdating my macbook more than upating arch linux
zealous wedge
i guess emacs is tolerable too
peak dirge
The other big issue I have is with refresh rates, most DEs I've tried only work nicely at 60Hz by default, unless you're using a VM or have some startup script to force a higher refresh rate
static pilot
What's your issue with refresh rates @peak dirge
golden gust
Like, there would be some definite advantages to running linux on the daily, but, at the same point, on the daily, I find macOS to be nicer and more round
static pilot
My issue is that my cursor works fine, and some games work fine
But most apps is running at 60
peak dirge
@static pilot It's because it all defaults to 60Hz despite the fact I have a 144Hz monitor
static pilot
There's just no way to solve that too though, eh?
lean kiln
every single de does that
static pilot
Yeah right
lean kiln
you put a startup script that runs xrandr
golden gust
Display issues on linux are the best
peak dirge
I use a startup command to force 144Hz with xrandr and that usually does it, but yeah, Windows does that so much better.
lean kiln
so does macos
spiral zinc
you put a startup script that runs xrandr
@lean kiln it's an xorg specific issue
@peak dirge you run an amd gpu right?
peak dirge
yep
lean kiln
I do as well but same thing happened with nvidia
peak dirge
I can't use Wayland, one of the games I play (Hearts of Iron IV) does not work with Wayland
spiral zinc
you should swap to sway on wayland, it works beautiful with variable refresh rates
lean kiln
i dont want to redo my polybar setup as some wayland compatible bar lol
only reason i havent switched yet
also picom merged dual kawase blur
so less reason to switch
spiral zinc
well it's your loss, with wayland high refresh rate and DPI changing aren't hacks, tearfree by default and without triple buffer or vendor extensions
lean kiln
eventually I will switch
spiral zinc
variable refresh rates just work after enabling a thing in sway config, ymmv
lean kiln
just lazy
peak dirge
Also, I get strange lag in Minecraft with Wayland at times, and it just works with Xorg.
minor badge
and no, there's actually been a few dozen articles on the price difference between apple hardware and other manfs, afaik there is still a level of the mac comes out more, but, when you actually compare hardware and build quality together, the mac is actually pretty competitive
comparing an ideapad and a macbook with comparable specs (16gb mem, R7 4700U vs i7 9750H, 256GB ssd on mac vs 512GB ssd on ideapad) puts the macbook at almost 20k NOK more
i'm really not looking to invest 3x the price of my desktop on a laptop
green turret
I've never managed to get anything UI wise working smoothly in any of my Linux adventures. I don't know if it's because everything is just shit OOB and I don't have the patience to mess with brittle config files for everything or if it's just because I'm super picky about the smallest things.
peak dirge
so unless those issues are fixed, Wayland is a no-go for me.
golden gust
There is defo a tax on storage, but you're literally comparing intel vs AMD? and a mobile CPU at that
peak dirge
I don't deny Wayland is a big leap ahead but it's not suitable for me rn
lean kiln
same basically
green turret
The Ideapad isn't really the same league as the MacBook in terms of material and build quality though.
golden gust
oh, H is mobile too
peak dirge
basically, if Wayland was a lot better for gaming, I would use it
minor badge
alright found a vivobook for a whopping 1.5k (one thousand five hundred) nok more with an i7 1065G7; the price winner definitely is the vivobook still
and having used a vivobook that's cheaper for a few yrs now, i'm fairly certain i'd trust their build quality and shit to be good enough for me
peak dirge
I have a VivoBook with an i5-8250U, those laptops are crap
potent warren
what if all that matters are the video sponsors we've watched along the way
peak dirge
though it's probably the terrible CPU and iGPU that really lets it down
Intel Gen9.5 will just about run Minecraft and that's about it.
green turret
A friend of mine has a Carbon X1. That's a really nice machine and I'd put it up there with the MacBooks in terms of build quality. They're also pricy though. I take really good care of my gear, so I could probably make a 300 dollar Acer laptop last 7 years, but I don't need to worry about stuff like plastic breaking off or hinges becoming loose and sloppy on the MacBook. I have seen that so many times on the cheap stuff people sometimes compare with. Usually you get a laptop because you need more than just specs.
peak dirge
I am probably going to buy a new laptop at some point
green turret
But here at least, even 16 GB memory in almost any laptop is stupidly pricy.
peak dirge
But at least for now, I can do survival Minecraft on the thing and get 40-50FPS which is not half-bad.
next wind
alright probably a stupid question, but im just curious: when you rent a vps or a dedicated server, do you get like a video stream like parsec or discord video share, or do you just get like a command prompt or something
peak dirge
depends on the OS
green turret
My 2013 MacBook with 8 GB memory is really starting to show its age. I wish I'd just gone with 16 GB then :(
minor badge
you usually just get told credentials to log into a shell using ssh
lean kiln
sometimes they make you upload a ssh key to get ssh
slim nymph
if your server comes with a remote desktop video stream, send it back
peak dirge
in most cases you get out-of-bounds access, typically through VNC or IPMI
if you got a Linux server, you'll be able to log in with SSH
minor badge
i'm not so sure if i'll regret saying this, but a system76 laptop could be pretty cool
peak dirge
if you got a Windows server, bless your heart
slim nymph
imagine buying a windows server
minor badge
buuut my amd fan heart hurts when saying that
zealous wedge
i've known ppl with system76 laptops who've had good experiences
green turret
I'm imagining it!
minor badge
mule pls
fierce finch
me seeing those messages knowing i have a windows server since someone gave it to me sweats
spiral zinc
golden gust
I gotta go bathroom, but, I just had a look at the vivobook and the most comparable model starts at 400, but, with an i3, on amazon, I can see it starting at 700 for god knows what, internet is being what imma go leave in the bathroom
spiral zinc
do the CLUTTER_DEFAULT_FPS=165 stuff for GNOME
see if that works
if you care that much anyways
peak dirge
that's for novideo
minor badge
welcome to our experience when you're around, cat <3
spiral zinc
seems like every person using high refresh rates on AMD, just it works out of the box for them
i see the same trend in people using the proprietary nvidia graphics driver
peak dirge
guess trying CLUTTER_DEFAULT_FPS=165 might do it...
green turret
I don't know what to do with my imaginary Windows server. Something about resetting the GAC and restarting the IIS right? That's what you do with a Windows server?
spiral zinc
dunno, pretty sure switching off "allow flipping" in nvidia settings is a very crucial part to it
you could try but i'll let you know now it might be a waste of time
then again it could just be an additional step for nvidia specific users and it might work like that just fine for amd users
spiral zinc
"godsdead"
twin lagoon
r/admincraft went downhill so fast
peak dirge
admincraft has really gone downhill
minor badge
admincraft is the reason why we get people in here using linux 3
haughty bear
whats wrong with admincraft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) A Letter to the Redditor : mbax - 13 comments, 57 points - mbaxj2, 1mo ago
twin lagoon
vestal jasper
yes
green turret
ENOUGH
peak dirge
4
vernal moth
There's an additional one off screen
peak dirge
good enough guess
vernal moth
5 on screen
peak dirge
I guess if you count the mother...
lean kiln
lol theres 5 kittens bro count the tails
lean kiln
one is under some others
peak dirge
Oh, I see the fifth one just about. Only saw the ear.
vestal jasper
@minor badge I started giving luke some chest scratches and he hugged my hand while I did
lil toe beans on the back of my hand
twin lagoon
minor badge
@vestal jasper woa
mighty storm
Anyone seen Rory?
quasi valley
only cory
zealous wedge
i wish ๐ฆ
minor badge
rory pls
void void
.tacos
limber knotBOT
๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ
void void
isnt rory chews cat=? lol
green turret
I want tacos
void void
yes u do
green turret
But tomorrow I will eat... Nupo bar. I have betrayed my diet plan twice now and I must suffer the consequences!
zealous wedge
yes she is chivitos
green turret
(it's a one meal bar thing that isn't very satisfying but it does kinda fill you up a bit and it has good vitamins and stuff)
mighty storm
tacos are good
red imp
Hi guys, I wanna ask you if you have idea how could be possible to get 50 stack of netherite blocks?
green turret
You can just use /give, super easy. Even I can do it probably.
lament patio
Not sure if a world eater would work in the nether, maybe
next wind
average time to get a single netherite scrap is something like 71 seconds, excluding repairing tools and other stuff. That means he would have to spend 2272 hours of time to get that many blocks of netherite
so more like 2700 hours including farming xp to repair tools
red imp
It seems that he bugged it here
this is very interesting place.... he has home here
see diamond ores and ancient derbis, and ONE chest
seems like some dupe room
due to log he really sold 50 stacks of netherite blocks...
and he has also so many of other items, it's weird
I heard about some dupe methods, but I have illegalstack, exploitfixer, the newest paper, so?
latent valve
mighty storm
hello mr weeb dock
next wind
what?
austere ivy
in order to use nms, you have to build with craftbukkit, correct?
mighty storm
why use nms just pr paper ;-;
limber knotBOT
using nms and not api smh
minor badge
?installjar
leaden oxideBOT
minor badge
oh that works outside there too
potent fossil
oh look it's Brian
austere ivy
am developing for a spigot plugin unfortunately.. actually I should be asking in spigot's discord, not here. sorry.
hi o/
limber knotBOT
not forwarding bot commands smh
potent fossil
vestal jasper
spoget
potent fossil
Really nothing wrong with that till paper hard forks as ppl gonna go for max compat that way
But when we hard fork oh boy it's gonna get juicy
vestal jasper
โข๏ธ
limber knotBOT
that will just be yet another adapter module ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
potent fossil
I'm aware, but it'll be more juicy than it is now
Anyway, I really need to get back to my math homework so I can have it done by the time it's due tonight ๐
spice finch
According to screenshot: I'm a bit late, but no, that's not what I meant. I'm searching for something like here:
https://youtu.be/-sUNgnbL7DE
Afaik it's made by custom font and resourcepack.
austere ivy
that's gotta be some intense custom fonts and resource packs, because that looks like a mod.
austere ivy
you work there, michael?
spice finch
This servers seems completely awesome. But these are trailers only :D
austere ivy
hey that's cool :D
spice finch
I hope so Michael ๐
limber knotBOT
how did you do two lines at the top though? just relocated the title or something?
twin lagoon
i have rough idea of what it is but NDA blabla
twin lagoon
i don't develop 
limber knotBOT
runs
red imp
Unix are you sure it's problem to use illegalstack and exploitfixer? Maybe it could fix something, no?
twin lagoon
the amount of work in that scene is amazing though
red imp
And guys, don't you have an idea what could be the dupe problem?
twin lagoon
hopefully there'll be a dev blog about it
spice finch
Isn't there one?
twin lagoon
we don't have any technical explanation blogs
spice finch
we I see
mighty storm
yes this is communism dont u see
minor badge
@twin lagoon thats so fucking hot
twin lagoon
๐ฅบ
true canyon
I like the blog post about rebranding by simply switching the words around and magically not being a problem anymore with Mojang. Gosh that place is so logical.
limber knotBOT
trademarks, how do they work
twin lagoon
problem was that realms was the primary word
and they did not like that for some reason
serene bolt
the people who do the art / design for origin realms are insanely good, the entire site looks scarily official... like a genuine mojang product
limber knotBOT
hm, so that will have emoji tab completion in chat messages? Kinda wondering how they do that with the post 1.13 changes to tabbing
twin lagoon
hm, so that will have emoji tab completion in chat messages?
si
the people who do the art / design for origin realms are insanely good, the entire site looks scarily official... like a genuine mojang product
branding artist is the one who made this:
limber knotBOT
nah, the site is actually usable, can't be official mojang lmao
limber knotBOT
I think I'm gonna steal this idea for rank tags once my server has a proper server resource pack: https://assets.originrealms.com/2020/07/ChatBubblessneakpeek.jpg lol
not with the attrocious uppercase Minecraft font though lol
yeah, the original site is even closer lmao
no wonder they wanted it to be changed
limber knotBOT
official minecraft partner ๐ no wonder the quality is so good
twin lagoon
oh yeah we're bedrock partnered
glad narwhal
whats the benefit of using docker?
potent fossil
too many to count
minor badge
simple ๐ฅบ
potent fossil
proxi ๐ฅบ
twin lagoon
simplicity
glad narwhal
example? ive gone through articles and couldnt get what is it and what is it for
potent fossil
simplicity like michael said
minor badge
its also really convenient
glad narwhal
its just some VM as far as i know
potent fossil
full app, all runtime deps and startup script is packaged up into a neat little box and you just run it and map volumes and ports that you desire. you no longer have to care about the internal impl details, essentially.
you just run the little box
minor badge
you can manage them as if theyre their own installs (almost anyways.. not entirely true but oh well..) without finding their dirs or anything
it lets you use 1 (one) command to do all your tasks with em
glad narwhal
um, well, okaaay.
well, ive never developed any app so i havent been bothered about this stuff
potent fossil
you dont need to be a dev to use docker
limber knotBOT
docker is mainly for administrators
glad narwhal
all i do is just making plugins
potent fossil
say you want to run nexus for example, then you'd just go find the nexus docker image and run it. that's it. you don't need to download nexus manually and set up its config and blablabla what have you. you just run the container.
but if you dont have a server where you run stuff, then you dont need it.
(or dont dev and make your own containers)
potent fossil
minor badge
@potent fossil uwu
formal carbon
hi
potent fossil
@minor badge uwu
minor badge
minor badge
woa
twin lagoon
borb
zealous wedge
borb!
spice finch
I made it I guess? ๐
mighty storm
well idk what else
slow patrol
@everyone
mighty storm
wtf
potent fossil
fail
mighty storm
big brain
spice finch
keep trying
potent fossil
ok sick him
slow patrol
@spice finch
mighty storm
/essentials:ban
vernal moth
/execute as God send CDFN hell
spare stone
Does someone know what are the Mojang Ip addresses and ports? I want those for firewall
potent fossil
ur dumb mini just /mvtp CDFN world_nether duh
twin lagoon
why would you need them for a firewall
formal carbon
hi
mighty storm
Is /execute as Bruh the same as /essentials:sudo Bruh
vernal moth
I guess
formal carbon
hi im new
mighty storm
I wish /sudo was actually like sudo, it does a command as op
potent fossil
mini is an alcoholic
limber knotBOT
s/alcoholic/German
Correction, <DiscordBot> <06sโimโplโe โ(hโe/โhiโm)โ> mini is an German
runs
limber knotBOT
the bot doesn't filter out the colors, only the control character xD
worn ember
limber knotBOT
lol
worn ember
guess what will be on for the next 9 hours
limber knotBOT
how is that shorter than the full LOTR? Oo
worn ember
its only the first movie i think
limber knotBOT
well then "still shorter than the full extended series" I guess ;D
rose lion
Magic
mental meadow
Not a bot, webhook
limber knotBOT
why would bots not be allowed to talk? smh
mental meadow
Because it's a person writing in IRC that gets send to discord
mental meadow
On the question why people talk I can't answer that
Internet relay chat? Is that what it's called?
slow patrol
/!\ What /!\
limber knotBOT
yes
mental meadow
.g irc
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.rescue.org/ -- International Rescue Committee (IRC): "The International Rescue Committee (IRC) responds to the world's worst humanitarian crises and helps people to survive and rebuild their lives. Find..."
lmao
rose lion
Lmao
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat -- Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia: "Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is an application layer protocol that facilitates communication in the form of text. The chat process works on a..."
mental meadow
There are websites for that, you can just use them for irc
slow patrol
also wtf does rescure . com
mental meadow
No, it just sends the message to a webhook as your irc name. If that matches a discord name it takes the avatar as well
It's basically chat
But old
mental meadow
You know how to use Google?
potent fossil
the us military still uses irc for tactical communications
mental meadow
Pay me I'll make you a sketchy time machine
limber knotBOT
I can pay you in 1 cookie
mental meadow
Welp
Better than nothing I guess
There's your time machine have fun: https://bit.ly/3mbeMn5
limber knotBOT
๐ seems sketch
mental meadow
What part of sketchy time machine didn't you understand
worn ember
yes
mental meadow
Do you have the pins on irc? :P
limber knotBOT
!pins
yes
and there goes the discord bridge for however long
pretty sure it's the wrong command anyways
c-h-e-w has used the command a few times
just make her tell us her secrets
hm?
mental meadow
You killed it
limber knotBOT
it's !pinned ;)
!pinned
!pinned
lol
they can still see us btw
well there it goes
we can't see them
mental meadow
Lol
limber knotBOT
what will discord chew do while we can't see her?
not a problem, they should be using irc anyway
mental meadow
That's mean
limber knotBOT
how is it mean smh
I mean /ignore DiscordBot is easier but ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
lol
just say something forbidden on discord so it gets glined
discord is ๐ฆ
what even gets you glined from spigot irc?
only certain spam/scam stuff iirc
zealous wedge
hi i'm discordbot and i'll sell you optimized enterprise 1.8 spigot for $999
mighty storm
how do I do the Build thing IntelliJ has but from the command line
limber knotBOT
the "build thing"?
mighty storm
true canyon
I would pay 100 dollars right now if I could get a guarantee that all future support requests I get don't cause me mental anguish. Like today's "Person asking for help and showing a completely different plugin's config and insisting it's another plugin despite the clear name difference at startup and in the jar filename itself" or "person who was told to test something by doing X but instead did entirely different act Y, reported Y to another plugin author (wasting their time too) and came back all proud of themselves with the other plugin author saying it's my issue to handle"
limber knotBOT
I don't even know that button
but maybe that's due to them changing the theme all the time -.-
just use maven ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
true canyon
chew, I suspect that button is just running mvn clean package or ./gradlew build
mental meadow
Chew doesn't that just execute the default build config
mighty storm
doesnt use maven or gradle
true canyon
vomits
mighty storm
it's some off brand project that you HAVE to press that button
true canyon
I'm so sorry.
zealous wedge
then there's no cli
limber knotBOT
isn't IntelliJ using Ant internally?
mental meadow
Yeah but check what the default configuration for that project does
zealous wedge
since it's not using a real build tool
mighty storm
yeah i think it's ant but ant doesnt have a cli does it?
mighty storm
is it not just called ant
limber knotBOT
ivy is an ant plugin that adds dependency resolution
limber knotBOT
why did I press that button to see what it do? now it's stuck on https://i.moep.tv/fM44pn39.png ;_;
mighty storm
idfk
limber knotBOT
rip
mighty storm
too depressed to exist rn, gonna play odyssey and cry bbl
worn ember
thats a cute progressbar
mighty storm
nyaa
unkempt drift
literally the most useless intellij plugin
mighty storm
smh
worn ember
limber knotBOT
it's not useless if it makes you hate your life less 
pretty insane how exact he seems to be able to fly that but beyond that it seems pretty useless, lol
a drone could do the same thing
zealous wedge
I have that plugin, it's good
still cape
a hug from me
limber knotBOT
same
still cape
and a scratch behind the ears for rory
mighty storm
bless u
anyone got like really close connection with discord staff? We need a server transferred to us but we're 0/2
merry talon
there is literally no more rage inducing thing than canceling something and having to wait for it to cancel
mighty storm
then ya gotta cancel the cancelling for taking too long
limber knotBOT
cancels c-h-e-w
mighty storm
nani
stiff raft
can I be cancelled from life
limber knotBOT
same
worn pasture
#cancelculture
potent fossil
so sexy
still cape
i am starting to really really loathe wordpress (well, drag and drop editors anyway)
potent fossil
dat sux
lament patio
Why use paper? flight_takeoff.
tame thorn
๐ซ
mighty storm
css said bye
still cape
it's awful i mean there are so many things wrong with it, it's either the host's editor that's the problem, or wordpress, or whoever made the theme but so many times it just doesn't work and there is nothing that can be done about it
mighty storm
pordwress
still cape
without like learning to code
merry talon
flight_takeoff
mighty storm
flight_takeoff
still cape
and it doesn't happen right away it seems fine after installing a the and hours down the way something glitches and you're SOL
well me anyway, you're all too cool for wordpress
you know what i was just thinking that, i could have probably made something that worked in html by now
still cape
i know basic html i used to work at an isp years ago and i've just found building websites fun so over time i've dabbled enough to know the basics but with this i was attracted by some of the plugins/gadgets like having somewhat of a forum and social media integration, showing youtube, instagram, having a gallery
limber knotBOT
yeah, how else can we tell you aren't on irc
still cape
problem is i don't know how to do the html myself to where it's got all that i know how to do then add those things on top of it, maybe i can just do those on separate pages
worn ember
ban the irc plebs
limber knotBOT
no, ban DarkEyeDragon
worn ember
go learn it then
potent fossil
you likely want a page builder like Elementor @still cape
instead of using their Gutenberg editor
which is for publications
still cape
yeah something
limber knotBOT
all you need is irc really
still cape
i'm probably showing my age here but the last html editor i used that i really liked was hot dog pro ๐
still cape
from sausage media ๐
still cape
you probably weren't born yet
limber knotBOT
if you were a chicken wouldn't you want to be blazed too?
potent fossil
coffee cup is from the same era as hot dog @still cape
;)
that one where the sky is falling and the little pig runs around to tell everyone or something
lean kiln
chicken joe
mighty storm
also
gitlab
oh no
lean kiln
bruh u didnt even set up nginx rule to hide the exension smh
mighty storm
yes thats the skeleton but fill iti n
mighty storm
gitlab is good but github is great 
zealous wedge
gitlab has fewer ICE contracts :p
mighty storm
i mean i would assume github has a lot o fice contracts considering theyre burying code in it
lean kiln
just host your own git at that point
still cape
i might remember something about a coffee one being popular back then, but i preferred the sausage
lean kiln
zealous wedge
gitlab is also open-source :p
mighty storm
git ea sports it's in the game
next wind
Can someone explain what intellij and all that dev stuff is to me? Is it just like an alternative to something like visual studios?
zealous wedge
eww we don't stan EA here
potent fossil
wat
mighty storm
intellij is basically visual studio but java
next wind
alright thanks
potent fossil
visual studio is Microsoft's IDE for their line of stuff like Visual Basic, Visual C++ (diff from C++? idk), C#, .NET Core etc
IJ is a polyglot editor, it can do C# and VB but is geared toward Java.
mighty storm
gittea
viral hornet
that gitea logo really makes me wanna have a green tea
mighty storm
I use JetBrains Rider for C# lmao
potent fossil
yea
I typically use rider when I write c# but I wasn't allowed to install it on my work PC
They force you to use VS
cosmic raft
potent fossil
Which is fine, I get it. Consistency
cosmic raft
yes hello
potent fossil
tf are you doing kash
cosmic raft
Folding :D
mighty storm
running minecrat
potent fossil
:D
mighty storm
whats folding
viral hornet
kash 
potent fossil
you sign up and research agency sends your PC work to do
serene bolt
looks like DFU initialization to me :P
mighty storm
i know oyu can do it at home
cosmic raft
potent fossil
and then your PC does it and sends it back
lean kiln
:P
next wind
visual studious has been working fine for the few times i use it. whats the benefit of jetbrains rider?
potent fossil
yes but atm they are doing covid research
although you may get assigned other tasks
cosmic raft
<option value="ANY">Any disease</option>
<option value="COVID_19">COVID-19</option>
<option value="ALZHEIMERS">Alzheimer's</option>
<option value="CANCER">Cancer</option>
<option value="HUNTINGTONS">Huntington's</option>
<option value="PARKINSONS">Parkinson's</option>
<option value="HIGH_PRIORITY">High Priority</option>
yeah cancer, covid, a bunch of stuff
next wind
high priotrity is covid right now
mighty storm
what exactly dos it help with
next wind
folds proteins and shit
potent fossil
it simulates proteins and stuff, there is more description of each project on the website
mighty storm
yes makes sense, my barely passed biology ass cant understand basic shit like that lol
cosmic raft
Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases. It brings together citizen scientists who volunteer to run simulations of protein dynamics on their personal computers. Insights from this data are helping scientists to better understand biology, and providing new opportunities for developing therapeutics.
potent fossil
Basically they are simulating a drug against a simulation of the proteins in the COVID-19 virus
And watching what kinda shit goes down
mighty storm
ah cool
cosmic raft
10% done in maybe 5 minutes
potent fossil
yeah but they'll send you another task right after
cosmic raft
yep simple
potent fossil
Nav, they likely just won't send you a hard task to do if your PC is shitty
cosmic raft
@void void you can't
mighty storm
is there total progress or just whenever they finish
cosmic raft
you have allocated time to complete a task
if you don't complete it, it's not your task anymore
mighty storm
no i mean like on a global scale
cosmic raft
there is no "finish"
next wind
nice
potent fossil
but, right after this project, they will just start a new project
cosmic raft
yep
potent fossil
so..as kash said "never done"
next wind
im going to go start up my folding client
mighty storm
i mean i was specifically asking about the covid one :p
cosmic raft
just 1 or 2 big contributors there
mighty storm
thanks simple thats what i was lookin for
next wind
my proteins looking pretty cool
potent fossil
they want people who willingly are not using their PC and donating the extra cpu cycles. also, the client can detect if you're working or not and then not work and wait for you to be idle to spin up tasks again
so. no reason not to, unless you dont have the computing power or electricity available
cosmic raft
fun fact, simple
the client defaulted to being on While I'm working as the "when to run option" when I installed it today
cosmic raft
instead of Only when idle
yea
its currently saying
133608 points per day
for me
next wind
what team are you on kashike
next wind
worn ember
#nofriends
next wind
##๏ธโฃ
cosmic raft
20% done this task
next wind
waxen panther
do NOT tell me to stfu
limber knotBOT
wtf
next wind
because irc
limber knotBOT
because we're robots here
pls don't pour water on us
it says bot no trobot smh
why would you talk anywhere else lol
ok
try harder
worn ember
irc poop
potent fossil
i can respect that stance, dont fix (or, in this case replace) what isn't broken
holy fuck that grammar was terrible
mine's not
get nae nae'd
golden gust
apple do a much better job of updating their software than pretty much any other mobile phone company?
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Spotify Track: All My Friends by Gazzo from the album All My Friends https://open.spotify.com/track/1FVymkPRpfg43uwzwk5ExZ
golden gust
Android only garauntees you to 2 years of OS updates and 3 of security or something, iirc
zealous wedge
that's just on google pixel phones lol
it's super hit or miss on any other manufacturer
golden gust
I thought that google pushed manfs to follow that or something
zealous wedge
i don't think so
since android 11 added even more to shift system components to being updated in google play store
golden gust
But, companies like samsung are generally terrible for OS upgrades unless you're intending to go 3rd party roms
google are doing stuff to help improve it, treble, stuff on the app store, etc, etc; But, manfs still suck ass
yea
limber knotBOT
rebuy mc
golden gust
See, I was debating on jumping back to iPhone next time around
next wind
why would you need to rebuy mc to download java edition on mobile?
golden gust
I'mma lose google pay or be stuck on an outdated OS in the next year or two
(or deal with magisk, etc, etc, bleh)
worn ember
Yes
potent fossil
i haven't been able to root my phone for many years because i keep buying samsung galaxies and they all happen to be the exynos models that have no working roots
but, im really not missing anything.
golden gust
My thing is that rooting was cool back in the days and fun to do, not to mention it was nice as I often don't really care about a phone so long as it works
The thing is that "works" is more subjective with stuff like safetynet, and my phone is only going to have the latest OS from the manf for like 2 years, past that it's sticking back on an older OS or dealing with rooting etc to get the phone to work for me
potent fossil
someone send angery emoji https://owo.whats-th.is/7w4i72Y.png
next wind
potent fossil
ty
hallow swallow
anyone knows this symbol?
potent fossil
integration by parts can eat, and i cannot exaggerate this enough, my entire ass
mighty storm
taken out of context that made me lol, taken with context i agree
lapis sequoia
hey anyone know of a bungee plugin that can send players back to a server once its online?
I'm using MoveMeNow to move players to a "limbo" when the main server goes offline, but i want to send them back once the main server is online again.
Any ideas?
mighty storm
I mean.. I guess you could yeet them to some lobby and /send them back
lapis sequoia
i would rather a plugin did that for me though so i dont have to do it manually everytime lol
mighty storm
yeah yeah ik, never had that request though hm
vast idol
eigencraft redstone. will this break complex redstone builds? or fairly safe to use?
viral hornet
Yep, is fine to use
From my players experience anyway
And they build some pretty amazingly massive disgusting things.
limber knotBOT
camm, rolling in to answer yes to a one-or-the-other question
vast idol
lmao awesome
viral hornet
:(((
mighty storm
mfw kitteh no edit support
limber knotBOT
:((((
viral hornet
But yeah, Yes was to it being safe heh
limber knotBOT
@true canyon pls fix super urgent
viral hornet
Super dooper urgent
viral hornet
Oh YES
true canyon
There... there isn't any IRC edit spec?
limber knotBOT
aww <3
viral hornet
@whatshisface hello
potent fossil
have you been editing messages in irccloud? cuz if so we definitely havent been seeing those updates 
mighty storm
Nope, server doesnt support it
potent fossil
correct
potent fossil
those both mean the same thing. choose one and go with it
hallow swallow
which looks better if another server is named
Semi Vanilla?
not named but that thing*
viral hornet
Huh
potent fossil
full, i guess?
viral hornet
Just Vanilla?
potent fossil
pure means the same thing as full in this case
potent fossil
he wants to stand out against a server called 'semi vanilla'
potent fossil
so, in that case just call it full vanilla.
hallow swallow
wont look good
potent fossil
oh my god ok good luck guys
viral hornet
Hahahaha
mighty storm
CAP Server supports: account-tag | away-notify | batch | cap-notify | draft/labeled-response | draft/labeled-response-0.2 | draft/metadata-notify-2=maxsub=100 | draft/setname | draft/sts=duration=31536000,port=6697,preload | echo-message | extended-join | labeled-response | message-tags | multi-prefix | setname | sts=duration=31536000,port=6697,preload | account-notify | draft/rename | znc.in/self-message | draft/multiline=max=40000
is what I get ona server that supports editing, deleting, channel renaming, reacting, threading, typing
mighty storm
idk, one of those probably
viral hornet
@hallow swallow is your server 100% vanilla or not lol
mighty storm
for reference, this is Spigot's
CAP Server supports: away-notify | extended-join | account-notify | multi-prefix | sasl | userhost-in-names
potent fossil
.g irc message editing capability
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://dev.twitch.tv/docs/irc/guide -- Chatbots & IRC Guide: "Twitch offers an IRC interface to our chat functionality. ... our API with the chat:read scope (to read messages) and the chat:edit scope (to send..."
potent fossil
ok, whatever.
hallow swallow
@viral hornet no but i plan to make
true canyon
Nothing in there is for editing, so my best guess is they're just yoloing with message tags?
hallow swallow
atm there is only semi vanilla survival
mighty storm
here's inspircd3 with ircv3 stuff enabled
CAP Server supports: account-notify | account-tag | away-notify | batch | cap-notify | chghost | echo-message | extended-join | inspircd.org/poison | inspircd.org/standard-replies | invite-notify | labeled-response | message-tags | server-time | setname
true canyon
Time to shrug and go to sleep
viral hornet
Goodnight mbax
mighty storm
night mbax
potent fossil
thats all i can guess, only mention of message editing in ircv3 i can find is 'message ids' which would allow a frontend to visually show edits...but.
that's...it...
no server ack
serene bolt
Pure Vanilla
that is trademarked to me, I'm sorry, just don't go and verify it or anything just trust me okay?
mighty storm
sources: dude trust me
viral hornet
PureVanilla0rez
potent fossil
ok i found a gist for a draft for message editing https://gist.github.com/DanielOaks/eb88a1a9652f7fd3bbdeebac630ad1c9
so is that guy part of irccloud or something? in any case...
wut
thats nice irccloud can do it, but, lol
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@potent fossil ๐ฅบ
mighty storm
rory has been fed and scratched
mellow lintel
this is the 'off-topic' chat?
mellow lintel
look athis
mighty storm
๐
potent fossil
this is going to get heated really fast, highly recommend you just go put that in #politics
im foreseeing it
yes i know it's not political
mighty storm
wtf this is borderline defamation
potent fossil
but that's the heated discussion room
potent fossil
yes plz
mighty storm
isnt there another word for it too
limber knotBOT
it's not anything new i'm sure
mellow lintel
Ok, I did it
mellow lintel
deleted xd
potent fossil
very safe
true canyon
Nothing new there, but the post should have been deleted. ._.
true canyon
:3
potent fossil
pets mbax
mighty storm
mbax the lovely :3
indigo fiber
Quick Q, have there been any config changes between 1.15.2 and 1.16.2? Like new options or removed options
I haven't really looked at my config files for paper/spigot.properties since 1.15 so idk what I might be looking for or removing if unneeded
mighty storm
I believe it adds new config options but doesn't remove
still cape
what post i missed it
still cape
ah, i see proxi already dealt with it
mighty storm
๐ข
golden gust
paper 2.0 sucks because I can't call simple publically by his read name
mighty storm
when will we see paper 3.0
golden gust
I rest my case
mighty storm
whats a read name
golden gust
Simp, I think it's time you go to bed before you break your leg or something stupid
still cape
simple you seem to have very bad luck these days
golden gust
*years
still cape
that really sucks i hope you can recover it
mighty storm
literally heals via photosynthesis or something idk i barely passed biology
golden gust
I mean, he'll be walking through the fog and walk off a cliff once he gets there, but, he'll get there
โค๏ธ
mighty storm
zealous wedge
i wish i could photosynthesize
minor badge
@golden gust you suck and you stink
zealous wedge
life would be better as a plant
golden gust
should create a paper 1.5 channel where the new rules don't apply
minor badge
get defamed ......
golden gust
That stationary bike thing that you bike on
minor badge
you say it as if i know what its called
golden gust
Walked one of those from my old place, nothing like a 40 odd minute walk to create a nice manly scent
excercise bike
minor badge
i have one but idk what theyre called lol
golden gust
I got a magnetic one which has the thing in the box
Kinda wish I'd had the cash to get a free wheeling one as they just ride much smoother
viral hornet
Walked one of those from my old place, nothing like a 40 odd minute walk to create a nice manly scent
hot
I haven't left the house / exercised since monday last week
I hate it
golden gust
I'm going through one of my phases, so my sleep schedule is upside down so I kinda like, sleep in the day, it's fun
Before that, we had a good few days of typical british weather
(I was debating sticking the heating on, lol)
summer wooo
viral hornet
I feel you, my sleeping pattern is fucked, but instead of sleeping all day I still wake up after 4/5 hours sleep and it's annoying
ngl im pumped for summer, I need the beach and sun
golden gust
summerlol
golden gust
We had a good few days
mighty storm
I wish Java had something like Array#sample to pick a random index from an array
golden gust
The thing with the UK is that we get okay weather bar the few days here and there when it rains, and that like week or two of summer where you go to bed one nice day where the weathers just right, and you walk out, get to the gates and are just like "wait, why am I dripping"
viral hornet
Haha
What's the typical summer temps/humidity there?
I have a mate from the UK who moved over here when he was younger, and the sun here fucking kills him ๐
golden gust
lowish 20s usually
viral hornet
Ahh yeah
golden gust
humidity ain't really an issue here, tbqh, it tends to be fairly dry which is why summers tend to blow extra hard, especially as we're used to being flooded with rain
(sometimes literally)
tawny heron
fuck
mighty storm
ok
golden gust
Yea, we had a pretty mild summer, tbqh, but, you see what I mean right at the end of that month ๐
golden gust
.rekt
limber knotBOT
โ REKT'Sai