ive a feeling its a non-daemon thread or smth, camm?
#general
vestal jasper
yes chew
minor badge
wasnt me
vestal jasper
the plugin I've barely advertised at all and is living off of people rampantly shilling it and bringing it up literally every chance they get
minor badge
i hadnt used it before my test net went 1.16.2
worn pasture
SIMP CHAT
vestal jasper
hi turb
minor badge
i should consider using it more and see if i cant contrib smth
worn pasture
mighty storm
anyway goodnight
vestal jasper
@minor badge if you can get item link hovers to work without throwing exceptions I'll love you forever
currently have the feature disabled because apparently I'm doing it wrong
minor badge
ill try :)
mighty storm
99.99% of time, wont be. aproblem
vestal jasper
ty
mighty storm
or just in general
vestal jasper
CarbonUtils.createComponent(Player player) is the method @minor badge
minor badge
please dont
void void
y
mighty storm
by sleep i mean migrate to my bed and look at memes
void void
ascii art butfiul
potent fossil
because they're just obnoxious. i'd rather you put actual comments in your config.
viral hornet
Didn't you say you wanted your plugin to be nice and stuff earlier @void void?
potent fossil
if i have plugins that put ascii art in shit, i remove them
viral hornet
That art shit will make it ugly
vestal jasper
listeners.ItemLinkHandler is where the plugin attempts to inject the component, you'll need to remove the if (true) { return; } to reenable it
mighty storm
isnt there ascii art in some mc files tho
minor badge
am not home nor will i be for a few hrs, ill figure it out vic :p
potent fossil
oh my god i opened redshift twice and the two processes were fighting each other for screen dimming priority
so it went dim...NOT DIM...dim...NOT DIM
mental meadow
You gotta love waking up to the sound of a chainsaw in front of your window
left swift
Is there a person there too
Or is ot just a floating chainsaw
Cuz that would be scary
Hmm actually would ir
Would waking up to a chainsaw floating out ur window be scarier than waking up to someone holding a chainsaw outside ur window?
Lifes a mystery ain't it
Buy my merch at the gift shop before u leave, thanks for coming to my Tedx talk
mental meadow
I haven't looked outside yet so I don't know :o
bold ridge
i've spent like an hour trying to figure out how to make paper autocomplete it's classes and interfaces, etc.
so sad
vestal jasper
why is it so difficult to get jenkins / gradle to output the same jar twice, but with different names
minor badge
just cp them
void void
yeah
potent fossil
i wonder if i can play that on my tablet
minor badge
you can
worn pasture
it's pretty weird with touch screens
cosmic raft
morning @zealous wedge
minor badge
@cosmic raft good morning
cosmic raft
hallo
minor badge
hallo
potent fossil
anyone wanna play skribblio :3
potent fossil
:(
potent fossil
well, i have no idea how this shit's gonna go but as my public speaking prof and nike and Shia LaBeouf all say "just do it" here's the outline of the speech ill give tomorrow trying to compare myself to a fictional character
what could go wrong
dont answer that
zealous wedge
i mean it'll be over eventually lol
potent fossil
this isn't even a fun speech
let me talk about my major and that'll be nice
but this? wtf
limber knotBOT
Huh, apparently digital pregnancy tests are just normal paper strip pregnancy tests hooked up to a couple LEDs, photodiodes, and an LCD
So it's still the same old "check the lines" test but it reads the lines for you and shows "Pregnant" or "Not Pregnant" on a screen and charges you 10x the price
Oh, can't forget the disposable lithium battery you use once before tossing in the garbage
vernal moth
You didn't knew that?
Supposedly it also helps since its more clear for ppl who can't wait but stare 5 minutes at it
potent fossil
i dont know why anyone would just randomly know that
except random germans on the internet of course
potent fossil
i mean, yes, unless you are actively trying to conceive
(or scared your contraception didnt work)
vernal moth
Lemme Google translate that
vernal moth
Oh it wasn't for me
limber knotBOT
vernal moth
Just a friend who had all the "symptoms"
potent fossil
ah yes
limber knotBOT
It was actually 60x the price
potent fossil
well that could make sense
idk, i haven't had a pregnancy scare yet thank god and my fiancee and i aren't trying, and i dont have friends who are in that position either
so i had no idea
¯_(ツ)_/¯
interesting though
vernal moth
Well, she took the pill too and he used a condom, but it would have explained everything
She's running around doctors now for other solutions
limber knotBOT
iirc one of my cousins ended up with twins even with the pill and a condom so it happens
potent fossil
i mean, yes, i agree; im just talking solely about knowing the intricacies of how digital tests work
kek, but ye cool to know
limber knotBOT
I think I read somewhere that getting pregnant even if you're on birth control pills actually makes twins more likely
potent fossil
:o
vernal moth
I have two friends with abortions, I think I know everything about female health, lol
potent fossil
worn pasture
up the bum no babies
magic river
potent fossil
press F for windows
twin lagoon
im surprised you can set a drive letter as = in first place
rare herald
Can you set drive letters as emojis yet?
humble falcon
You’d need something 3rd party but techincally drive ‘letters’ can be any string
worn pasture
💯 :\
olive marlin
In Linux any character apart from byte 0 and slash can be part of file/dir name.
Unless FS limits it.
Fun having ZWS or newlines in directory names.
So many tools trip on that.
ashen cliff
You should be able to if you enable the broken af UTF8 mode.
spiral garden
windows based on linux instead of nt when
sly fog
Someone made a plugin version of the drama generator lmao: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spigotdrama-generator-plugin-edition.83423/
sharp sentinel
chew 👀
warm anchor
That’s one beefy plugin
limber knotBOT
Ok, Thursday at 8pm USPS sends me a SMS shipping update letting me know a package is expected for delivery on... Thursday
sharp sentinel
Lmao it's written in Kotlin
limber knotBOT
Think they missed that goal
sharp sentinel
That's why it's so beefy
Hmm it appears it's not Kotlin, just bundles Kotlin?
chew pls explain
void void
does it use okhttp
vernal moth
My guess is that the api it uses uses kotlin
sly fog
zealous wedge
you can bully her in the morning when she wakes up
quasi valley
look at all of these beautiful walls and stairs https://i.imgur.com/DqCLzww.jpeg
quasi valley
looking at how many beautiful walls and stairs there are
woven otter
Is that how people at via test things
quasi valley
with people=me, but yeah 😂
it's just all stone walls https://i.imgur.com/IyfYrVy.png
quasi valley
inb4 snowlogged + 20000 walls
vernal moth
And lavalogged
quasi valley
walls+stairs already make up 10.000 of the ~17.000 blockstates 
sharp sentinel
cakelogged
void void
hnnnng
cedar spade
baconlogged
void void
tacologged
quasi valley
void void
knenylogged
cedar spade
mikrologged
woven otter
loggedlogged
twin lagoon
kneny 🐌
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/4285/commits/fe24f3f0f4a1ee0f01f4614df45d0f5e9b91fabb atleast it's his own patch this time
ashen cliff
Didn't even add himself to the top.
void void
kek
woven otter
Eww
worn ember
he's evolving
quasi valley
just backwards
cedar spade
syalPnavIrM
worn ember
excuse me
cedar spade
no
quasi valley
yes excuse you
worn ember
worn ember
sure
cedar spade
exclusion from excusion
worn ember
you're excluded from this convo
cedar spade
not if I exclude you first!
void void
smh those adv names
cedar spade
hey @quasi valley hangar wen
worn ember
cringe
left swift
limber knotBOT
does anybody know a program which can strip all private/protected stuff as well as code implementations from a jar? xD
void void
proguard, probably
limber knotBOT
does that work on class files directly? thought that required source
void void
of course
limber knotBOT
well that seems like some unnecessary steps, especially the "fixing potential decompile errors" part :S
oh, it doesn't require source. interesting
void void
well that's what i meant actually
limber knotBOT
ooh
vernal moth
Proguard just uses the jar
limber knotBOT
is it worth trying to do anything with the GUI or is that missing tons of functionality? xD
limber knotBOT
yeah, it looks extremely modern: https://phoenix616.dev/📷/fO5DSMeA.png 👀
hm, according to google and what I can gather from its documentation there is no way to remove a method's code :S
but apparently android has a script to auto generate stubs
worn ember
looks like any java app to me /s
limber knotBOT
and tehre's this java program https://github.com/aosp-mirror/platform_development/tree/master/tools/mkstubs xD
oh wow, mkstubs works perfectly :D
worn ember
Ur a stub
limber knotBOT
I wonder if it would be legal to distribute stubbed server jars xD
void void
probably not
limber knotBOT
technically it would only contain spigot's mappings as well as obfuscated names. 
vernal moth
I mean
Apis are apperently copyrightable
And obfuscation is just a transformation?
limber knotBOT
hm, I personally don't believe in the "api is copyrightable" argument (or copyright at all, lol) but I guess technically everything anyone writes has a copyright applied
zealous knot
Wow you have an emoji in your you are ells
Mikroskam stop progressing so much in sf4, us the plebians wont be able catch up with all of the advancements when we’re back from work
zealous knot
Wow fuk u
void void
banned
zealous knot
I have work i cant just hop on the server and catch up bruh
left swift
Just quit work
zealous knot
I cant risk not finding a job with this coconut virus
left swift
Collecting government checks is a job
zealous knot
When you’re entitled to them yeah
limber knotBOT
everytime I'm forced to work with CMI I hate myself for doing so -.-
their idea of an "api" is a joke
cobalt surge
Now where in the heck is @golden gust hiding this morning.. I need to talk with him.. hmmm..
vernal moth
hm, I personally don't believe in the "api is copyrightable" argument (or copyright at all, lol) but I guess technically everything anyone writes has a copyright applied
@phoenix616#0000 yeah, idk how the Oracle vs google would have played out under EU law
Would make arguments about intercompability which would be fine under EU law iirc
As it should
No copyright should stop you from making a different implementation of a service
limber knotBOT
I mean Google v. Oracle is still not finished so US interpretation might change too ¯_(ツ)_/¯
also the fact that certain language implementation techniques can be patented is pretty Pepega
"it found that Google had tried to prevent interoperability with other Java and had..." wtf kind of english is that?
limber knotBOT
"other Java", like the island? 😆
astral spoke
Can anyone confirm for me if the autocomplete function for commands isn't working for them on the latest 1.16.2 Paper build?
I would assume this is a Paper bug as the problem stretches across multiple plugins.
limber knotBOT
works without issues for me (tested on build 178): https://i.minecraft.ceo/fMfh3geo.png
astral spoke
I believe the problem began beyond build 178, I'm afraid. It was working fine for me on that build, as well.
I first noticed the problem on build 182, and it continues into build 184.
quasi valley
smells like either an upstream bug or some stupid plugin
limber knotBOT
last I checked no change was made upstream but I'll check latest I guess
astral spoke
Thank you for your help 😄
It may be worth noting that auto-complete for vanilla commands works perfectly, but not for commands from any and all plugins
astral spoke
Well, I'm at least glad that I'm not the idiot here 😂
What's the proper way to report this?
quasi valley
test at which build it started
astral spoke
Sure thing
limber knotBOT
hm, actually I can't reproduce it. seems like this is a bug in the code of the plugin I used for testing lol
yeah, was my code ^^'
astral spoke
Yeah, I can't reproduce it on my test server either. Alright, I concede! Not a Paper bug 😛
Thank you for your help @wheat quarry and @quasi valley
quasi valley
was wondering why for the second time someone really awkwardly said "want a Fresca" in The Boys and only then realized it's just a product placement for a real soda 
zealous knot
Wow seriously
He better fix it because that’s where i logged off
If i die on login im cutting his dick off
marble lark
Hey I think I just found the best pathfinding code ever Mojang should hire these guys:
if ($this->baseTarget instanceof Vector3) {
$x = $this->baseTarget->x - $this->x;
$z = $this->baseTarget->z - $this->z;
if (pow($x, 2) + pow($z, 2) < 0.7) {
$this->motionX = 0;
$this->motionZ = 0;
} else {
$diff = abs($x) + abs($z);
$this->motionX = $this->getSpeed() * 0.15 * ($x / $diff);
$this->motionZ = $this->getSpeed() * 0.15 * ($z / $diff);
}
$this->yaw = -atan2($this->motionX, $this->motionZ) * 180 / M_PI;
if ($this->baseTarget instanceof Player) {
$y = $this->baseTarget->y - $this->y;
$this->pitch = $y == 0 ? 0 : rad2deg(-atan2($y, sqrt(pow($x, 2) + pow($z, 2))));
}
}
If i die on login im cutting his dick off
what the fuck that's a little extreme
void void
no
marble lark
y want to castrate the other dude
left swift
Minecraft is serious
finite wave
We all want to castrate or kill someone keep it real
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) I made £540 on TSLA, I'm gonna spend £450 to lose my virginity in a... : wallstreetbets - 374 comments, 2,600 points - King_Tendie, 1h ago NSFW
twin lagoon
amazing
marble lark
We all want to castrate or kill someone keep it real
what the hell lmao
wouldn't wish that on my enemies even if I could
twin lagoon
@minor badge 🥺 
twin lagoon
i need cross-server socialspy @vestal jasper
vestal jasper
Ok
viral hornet
@vestal jasper I love carbon chat
twin lagoon
i'll be moving to carbonchat for craftadia on monday
just need cross-server socialspy though
vestal jasper
Every server is carboncord 
quasi valley
twin lagoon
heady spear
I wanna castrate my brother so he stops preying on 17 year olds but 🤷♂️
worn pasture
where i'm from that isn't illegal
twin lagoon
o
worn pasture
oof
left swift
viral hornet
wtf
heady spear
his son is 19
viral hornet
wtf
worn pasture
oh brother
heady spear
he also slept with a girl in his son's class
left swift
Wtf
worn pasture
stop this planet i want to get off
twin lagoon
@viral hornet 🥺
worn pasture
camm hold me
worn pasture
worn pasture
uwu
twin lagoon
worn pasture
i might come up for nye
worn pasture
why
viral hornet
nye here is terrible
worn pasture
they're gonna cancel the sydney fireworks
viral hornet
but summer is almost here
worn pasture
no point being here lmao
viral hornet
so come for beach trip
worn pasture
twin lagoon
summer is ending
heady spear
also my brother is like 80kg overweight
worn pasture
summer is coming
worn pasture
it was 30C in sydney yesterday it felt amaaaazing
void void
<@&748618676189528155>
worn pasture
haaaaalp
wide chasm
?ban 680659708045950991 Advertising cryptocurrency
leaden oxideBOT
KAKAMORA#1258 was banned | Advertising cryptocurrency
zealous knot
Stef is a shitter
quasi valley
and like exactly once a day
heady spear
GuYSSS HAVu SEeen ThiS NeW UwuCoIn WaLLet?
viral hornet
uwu @quasi valley
quasi valley
camm you nuthead
cedar spade
knenycoin when
heady spear
I want us to trade in exotic wares and precious gems
twin lagoon
problem is that gas fees are fucking high
heady spear
and camels
heady spear
I'd easily pay 3 camels and a goat for Camm
left swift
A pack a camel blues and some trident layers gum
worn pasture
yeah so dum for being on spigot
left swift
Wats apigot
twin lagoon
magic ice
olive marlin
Did anyone try connecting Discord to MC server through own bot? Essentially want to have externally hosted Discord bot, but I'd need it to be able to run specific commands on the server.
And I'm wondering how much work it'll be to do, and what'll be the best way on doing that.
limber knotBOT
you would either need to run commands via some other plugin or screen directly
twin lagoon
or rcon
olive marlin
Yeah, I don't want to give this bot access to my server.
And rcon isn't encrypted - password goes plaintext iirc.
limber knotBOT
yeah, that's why a separate plugin would be better
olive marlin
To the server host DED
I was thinking about having a simple plugin that exposes auth-based API.
limber knotBOT
I use this extended version of Minequery: https://code.minebench.de/Minebench/Minequery but taht's not encrypted either but should be easy to add that I guess
olive marlin
Hmm.
worn ember
make the discord bot validate who sends it, then make the bot send an authorized request to the plugin
ez krappa
limber knotBOT
(I only use that on the same machine/in a vpn and not via the clear net
olive marlin
Isn't it just the query protocol from vanilla?
limber knotBOT
no
it's from a time when Vanilla didn't have a query and my server never moved away from it
olive marlin
Hmm. I think it might be easier for me to have a simple HTTP server that provides auth, and hides behind my reverse proxy which would apply HTTPS to it.
So I don't need to mess with adding certs in my plugin, can make it reloadable for when I need to change stuff and have it encrypted. And have the "heavy" stuff (bot) live somewhere else, so that I can update it whenever.
twin lagoon
wouldn't it be better to use websockets
limber knotBOT
yeah, nginx 1.3.13 has support for websocket reverse proxies too
olive marlin
Hmm, I'll have to see how it'll work. Haven't used those.
limber knotBOT
IRC never forgets 👀
left swift
limber knotBOT
(neither does discord apparently because links are always valid even if the message was deleted?
left swift
Chew gave up on the irc quota
quasi valley
since she got a rank
left swift
limber knotBOT
Attachment != Message
Not sure you can delete Attachments
well yeah but one would assume that they delete the attachement if the message gets deleted
but I guess messages don't really get deleted but only hidden lmao
Stop assuming sanity and thought about a product
This is a silicon valley startup
Move fast and break shit while burning cash that isn't yours
void void
technical debts at every corner
limber knotBOT
I wonder how many people use discord for file sharing xD
one would assume that it's pretty nice as every upload is publicly accessible
left swift
Not many it sucks
limber knotBOT
lul
void void
now that you mention it, wait until they start limiting file uploads even more for non-nitro users
void void
this also reminds me docker hub
left swift
There is file limits and bigger limits for nitro users lol
void void
it started nuking old images, probably ran out of storage or something
limber knotBOT
I see, I guess telegram with its 1GB files and unlimited storage is still better
runs
left swift
Or less limits I think? Nitro users can use bigger files is what i mean
void void
didn't the limit increase lately?
void void
i abuse telegram's cloud storage a lot lolol
limber knotBOT
security vuln, time to get money
so this laptop with ubuntu is falling into busybox and solutions online don't work, e.g. fsck and lsblk aren't commands that can be run and it's in AHCI so idk what's up with ubuntu
since when did chew become halfop
not really, "it's random numbers, nobody is going to figure them out"
like weeks ago lol
ya I've been dead for weeks
left swift
Welcome back
limber knotBOT
how doe
left swift
How dee
limber knotBOT
r u like 9001% more active dan me
left swift
Hardworking dedication
limber knotBOT
I was a hardworking dedication some years ago
thought it was hard word and dedication
left swift
No the hardest words to say is "I love you too"
limber knotBOT
that's why I'm here
left swift
limber knotBOT
back sorry was hugging rory
left swift
Flexed on us
potent fossil
Brain not work, sleep not sufficient send help
void void
come grind sf4
limber knotBOT
more like simple (dum/stoopid)
potent fossil
yes pronouns funny ha ha
mighty storm
Minesweeper (1x1 with 0 bombs)
||:zero:||
potent fossil
Yay I didn't die this time
mighty storm
it's ez
impossible to lose
Minesweeper (1x2 with 1 bombs)
||:boom:||
||:one:||
50% chance
potent fossil
The minesweeper you posted yesterday killed me instantly
Damn hecc yea I survived again
mighty storm
yes pinging everyone is bad but have you ever been on a server where youre force given an autorole and they just ping that instead?
minor badge
luckily you can mute those now
before i always just blocked the staff of those servers
mighty storm
not that, having a role bypasses the Moderation setting you have
it's the equivalent of jsut setting it to None
rose lion
The RNG gods have spared me today
mighty storm
ashen cliff
INB4 bot that tags every user individually.
lament patio
Discord is lacking a lot in moderation features
mighty storm
@ashen cliff just like the good ol irc days
ashen cliff
And nothing would happen. Ignored for 14 days, after that they would already have a new account to spam.
mighty storm
lol kyle you think discord will add features people can just do with bots? why do work when you can get people to do the work for you for free !
left swift
Pr to discord
void void
Hey
mighty storm
I made a fork of discord and am pring that instead ezpz
minor badge
@twin lagoon michale
twin lagoon
pwoxi
quasi valley
proximsy
heady spear
yo mans classifying conics using quadratic forms and shifting the coordinate space using the spectral theorem is my kink
left swift
Specific very nice
worn ember
ok
left swift
We stan a decisive king
void void
Is CLion paid
limber knotBOT
turns out ubuntu upgraded the kernel silently, while we got ppl complainin about windows updates
mine doesn't
worn ember
am hungry
twin lagoon
ah so that's how simon from hypixel sounds
twin lagoon
void void
what version
limber knotBOT
5.4.0-45
void void
wtf
limber knotBOT
with -42 working
void void
it's not new it's fucking old
void void
more like sudo apt downgrade
limber knotBOT
runs apt upgrade
calls it silenty
not my machine
and idk how it upgraded, must've done something yesterday
then tell whoever did it that they should check what gets upgraded before doing so...
void void
inb4 debian repos installed
void void
oh shit oh fuck
limber knotBOT
crontab empty, how to view root's? can't recall,
short yarrow
what host do you guys use to run personal dev stuff? ovh? digitalocean?
short yarrow
I wanna start playing around with docker and ci/cd stuff
limber knotBOT
dev stuff? My own machine/VM
there's also /etc/cron.d stuff
or /etc/cron/cron.d/ ? not sure
also iirc systemd has a scheduler functionality too
twin lagoon
dev stuff local machine yeah
else, https://packet.com
rentable dedicated servers with CPUs optimal for MC
gets a bit expensive though so i only use it for a few hours
i also use digitalocean for things that need less power
or if i need to quickly spin up an instance for testing
peak dirge
Question: does anyone know about somewhere I can rent reasonably affordable ARM cloud instances or dedicated servers? Amazon EC2 is not affordable for me.
Preferably not a Raspberry Pi and located in the United States
twin lagoon
packet aswell?
unless you want something long-term
ok yeah packet might be a bit too expensive for long-term ARM
$1/hr 
twin lagoon
i think scaleway?
peak dirge
Scaleway stopped offering it
twin lagoon
expected tbh
peak dirge
Also, that's in Europe
m6g.medium would be great, if AWS didn't charge for bandwidth.
olive marlin
@short yarrow when I work on stuff and don't want to blow up my local machine - Hetzner. The cheapest I found that has a tool so I can create and delete instances from my scripts etc.
I was doing docker deployments using Ansible - have a script that sets up the machines, generates config for Ansible and then i can directly use it for deploying whatever i want.
quasi valley
only sadness
void void
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
void void
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Error: API returned 401
warm anchor
Is it just me or that you can spot a young person by their profile picture.
queen crater
yeah, u look like 9 years old
warm anchor
queen crater
:Blush:
indigo bone
If i was to migrate from shared hosting to a Dedicated hosting with 50 players and around 40 plugins, what should be the minimum spec requirements in my hunt?
twin lagoon
just go for a ryzen 5 3600 at hetzner if you're in EU and have a low budget
indigo bone
haha i like that ur way
twin lagoon
if you have a high budget, 3600 at OVH
if you have an even higher budget
E-2288G at PhoenixNAP
zealous wedge
uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
indigo bone
i am looking for an asian node most preferred singapore and decent budget(not very high)
twin lagoon
you'll want OVH or PhoenixNAP then
warm anchor
I will recommend OVH as well I have server in their Singapore node @indigo bone
indigo bone
Noice
twin lagoon
indigo bone
no no not E
twin lagoon
what
indigo bone
whats the benifit of graphics? in a server cpu?
twin lagoon
servers still need a gpu
to see any display output
although most of them have built-in KVM / iLO / IPMI
indigo bone
but better than shared ?
olive marlin
Usually, yes.
twin lagoon
really depends
indigo bone
i am on a shared Ryzen 9 3900 vs VPS ryzen 7?
twin lagoon
probably won't be better
minor badge
@twin lagoon flushed
twin lagoon
lul
yeah i just disable windows defender instantly
disabled the service from starting
cunning raft
best anti-virus is common sense
twin lagoon
yes
mighty storm
Rory woke me up
quasi valley
||put her@down||
mighty storm
She was purring in my face
twin lagoon
rory!
potent fossil
Speech class done, wasn't too bad
left swift
Good job simp
zealous wedge
aaa @mighty storm purr back at her
viral hornet
mighty storm
uwu
zealous wedge
uwu
potent fossil
uwu
zealous wedge
what
potent fossil
what?...
limber knotBOT
that's transphobic 👀
zealous wedge
it sounds like you're leaving out context here lol
potent fossil
in what context is "calling someone trans" acceptable? that's not something you call out. i need more info, i guess. but yeah i would tend to agree.
finite wave
Weird
potent fossil
is it weird though? like yikes
mighty storm
hell i wouldnt want people calling me that and i am
finite wave
Why
limber knotBOT
what's happening
worn ember
???
finite wave
What am i?
mighty storm
idk, what are you?
olive garden
that's offensive
latent valve
I will just jump in with a boom and get a godlike
potent fossil
would you go out on on the street and be like "hey are you GAY? like G A Y?" or "hey, are you <certain quality that can't be changed no matter what you do and society tends to bully the fuck out of you for this particular quality>?"
finite wave
M8
potent fossil
like, is this "weird"?
mighty storm
ok this is the only time ill ever ask this but mrzdok please start discussing anime
potent fossil
that they're offended?
cedar spade
Someone once said, the best response to "are you X?" is "does it matter?"
twin lagoon
worn ember
@cedar spade are you MD?
latent valve
Ok that cute
mighty storm
why can i hear it mew
twin lagoon
latent valve
cedar spade
@worn ember does it matter?
worn ember
😮
finite wave
So society automatically bullies you if you are trans?
potent fossil
idk man, just seems like a little critical thinking could help there but whatever. Moving on
mighty storm
pretty much yep
potent fossil
A lot of the time, yes. It does.
finite wave
What a weird society you are part of
mighty storm
yes, welcome to most societies
cedar spade
weird, but sadly not uncommon
next wind
my schools still makes jokes about that stuff, yet theyre incredibly accepting
potent fossil
This is the typical narrative of someone who has never and likely will never experience targetted harassment going out and declaring it doesn't exist.
limber knotBOT
all I gotta say is biology is biology, you don't get to choose, imma call you by who you are, not how you feel, and I've never cared much to joke about it
mighty storm
not really the point
olive garden
knowing whether someone is from Australia, whether that someone works out every day, whether that someone is trans, whether that someone is a physician tells us a lot about the person
finite wave
@next wind anything you say is offensive
next wind
true
olive garden
you obviously don't walk up to random people and ask them these questions though
cedar spade
Several people are typing
mighty storm
thats not you to deicde when that information should be known
thats up to the person themselves
olive garden
that someone is free to not share the information is me
olive garden
if I am annoying them, they are free to tell me to fuck off
worn ember
fuck off trig
mighty storm
yes, but what if theyre uncomfortable and dont want to?
olive garden
fuck you dark
worn ember
olive garden
I usually include a hint in my question that suggests that it's okay not to answer
limber knotBOT
it's ok to ask
multiple times, prolly not, something about "welcoming the question"
potent fossil
i think we're still missing the specific context of how "calling someone trans" is not offensive? what inoffensive reason is there to call somebody that?
mighty storm
it's ok to assume but dont make your assumptions known
next wind
i doubt he was like "ayyy are you trans?"
quasi valley
dafuq happened here now
mighty storm
cedar spade
simple: explaining to a less accepting person (older relative etc) that someone is who they are
mighty storm
the daily paper flame war
worn ember
the internet happend
limber knotBOT
ooof
quasi valley
mighty storm
usually yes but not necessarily
depends on how deep they are connected to the ideals they grew up with
zealous wedge
Jan came in to start drama kneny
potent fossil
simple: explaining to a less accepting person (older relative etc) that someone is who they are
ok sure, but... that's not directly calling somebody trans. Still missing the context of what happened with Jan. He made it sound like he found somebody, who may or may not be trans, and then called them trans. Which is offensive.
twin lagoon
im surprised this caused drama
i would not know that calling someone trans is offensive
lmao
limber knotBOT
wonder how offensive that assumption is 🤔
cedar spade
@quasi valley I tried adding Vault support to Hangar and it didn't work and now I refuse to try and do it again until someone pays me big bucks
twin lagoon
the more you know
finite wave
That’s a lot of imagination on your end
mighty storm
i mean it wouldnt be offensive at say a pride parade but i'd assume that'd be obvious at that point
are?
also please avoid using slurs
finite wave
It was a joke
zealous wedge
no
potent fossil
We don't have anything but imagination because you won't explain yourself, you just keep insulting people for trying to find out more information. So what's your goal? It's starting to look a whole lot like you are indeed only here for drama
quasi valley
u r
potent fossil
In which case, yawn.
mighty storm
oh, it was a joke? I assume you'd happy say the n-word and call it a joke too
mighty storm
no?
potent fossil
It's really not a lot different
zealous knot
imagine caring what other people say
mighty storm
no, it's already a thing, you're just now catching on
potent fossil
What's becoming a thing? Accepting people for who they are? Because yes. It's a thing.
mighty storm
that word's been offensive to trans people for quite a while
finite wave
I already knew black people got butthurt if i said the nword
potent fossil
Holy fuck o_o
quasi valley
stupid person ignore me
potent fossil
Using it as a joke is not acceptable, just as using gay as a joke is not acceptable.
You kidding?
olive garden
is it okay if someone doesn't want to date trans people? if it is, can that someone ask whether the other party is trans or not?
limber knotBOT
transphobic ✔️ rascist ✔️
finite wave
So rude
limber knotBOT
lame joke, but I don't see why it isn't acceptable if jokes against other groups are ok
mighty storm
@olive garden if you dont want to date someone just because they're trans, that's transphobic
finite wave
I never said i hated or disliked these people
limber knotBOT
because there was no /s at the end, Robo
worn ember
lmao what
twin lagoon
what
olive garden
hey, wtf, why did you just assume that I don't want to date trans people?
that's pretty offensive
golden gust
wat
quasi valley
WOT
worn ember
you dont get decide who i date tho 
mighty storm
just pointing out fact, not assuming anything ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
mighty storm
oop slur detected
finite wave
They assumed i was transphobic because i said the t word too
mighty storm
didn't
twin lagoon
fantastic
mighty storm
just told you to not use the slur
potent fossil
Jokes against groups where the group is defined by an unchangeable quality about the individuals contained in the group are never okay, and anyone who says them should be condemned. Things like making jokes against weebs being compared to calling somebody a slur is ridiculous and I'm stunned that it was just brought up in here.
Yikes
warm anchor
Can we get some mod to clean up this mess pls
golden gust
Having dating preferences is not transphobic
quasi valley
chew is a mod you dum dum
worn ember
thank you cat
warm anchor
Lmao ok I didn’t see lol
finite wave
But cat
olive garden
okay, so what if someone wants to have kids? I am no gender expert, but I don't think male->female people have the necessary organs
quasi valley
but she also said "JUST" because they're trans
mighty storm
adoption exists
warm anchor
How is that related to
worn ember
its not the same tho
finite wave
Chew
worn ember
wtf
warm anchor
What you just say wtf
limber knotBOT
it's not about preferences, cat. it's about the statement "I will never date someone who is trans" when they would indeed be your type
golden gust
?kick @next wind you're trying too hard
leaden oxideBOT
Unix#7163 was kicked | you're trying too hard
olive garden
lol
finite wave
Who was that
warm anchor
Dont know
void void
What do u guys think of SpigotGuard as payloadfixer
finite wave
What is spigotguard
mighty storm
what is payloadfixer
warm anchor
Tf
limber knotBOT
same goes for the statement of "I would never date someone of my own gender" but I don't think society is quite there yet 👀
warm anchor
Chicitios where do you find all those
worn ember
why are we always on these topics smh
golden gust
I have no interest in dating trans people as I want my own biological children, I have nothing against trans people and will happily by friends with everyone so long as they're respectful to me
void void
worn ember
i just wanna play minecraft
fallen jungle
The conversations on this server are still just as fruitful as a year ago 
finite wave
No
quasi valley
no, even more
limber knotBOT
I mean, who says you couldn't have children?
fallen jungle
dunno about that
mighty storm
less people too
fallen jungle
oh yeah this thing's ridiculously active now
worn ember
i agree with cat
limber knotBOT
how has that anything to do with your gender? Oo
finite wave
Hoq would i knockup a male?
potent fossil
This time last year people would have been throwing actual slurs at each other. So I'm glad it hasn't devolved to that point...But still some questionable opinions. But that's the thing. Opinions. They're valid I guess.
mighty storm
@golden gust so you really mean you dont want to date people you cant have bio kids with? that doesn't mean trans at all
limber knotBOT
biological relation means nothing
olive garden
just adopt children, like chew said /s
worn ember
but its included
mighty storm
some cishet females cant have bio kids either
worn ember
just adopt 5 poor african kids
golden gust
and I wouldn't be interested in dating them either
twin lagoon
same
limber knotBOT
having kids != having romantic relationships
warm anchor
Holdup Phoenix
limber knotBOT
most people who had kids together never had a romantic relationship with each other
warm anchor
limber knotBOT
runs
finite wave
I never said i wanted them to fulfill a relationship
warm anchor
Lol
limber knotBOT
ya and those kids turn out great lul
finite wave
If the relationship isn’t working don’t get kids
potent fossil
I'm already engaged to my fiancee, but there is a chance she might not be able to get pregnant. No chance I'm leaving here over that, but perhaps if I knew before we started dating at all I might not have started. But she's the love of my life, so it's ok whatever happens.
golden gust
At the end of the day, I have my own goals in life, and I'm happy for any friends who wanna tag along, but at the end of the day, I want somebody who I love and enjoy and can down the line have my own children with
limber knotBOT
well the concept of actually giving children a good home is pretty new, lmao
zealous knot
haha simp
limber knotBOT
the natural order is to dgaf
golden gust
I'm not going to date people where in the end, we're both not gonna be happy
potent fossil
Is that funny
worn ember
cat you should date me i'll give you lots of babies
quasi valley
not really, just sweet
mighty storm
👀
finite wave
I’d date you ded
worn ember
uwu
finite wave
uwu
twin lagoon
@quasi valley 🐌
minor badge
@mighty storm i don't think most people think of otherwise sterilised folks in some way or another when thinking of bio kids; it's not cause "oh no trans folks are the only ones", but rather trans folks are "most known" for not being able/want to have kids :p
zealous knot
Sometimes even being gay isn't enough in this server to avoid getting shit for a simple joke
limber knotBOT
simple, what you mentioned relates to fertility or something, can't recall the term but it involves the possibility, so it's still ordered
potent fossil
Jokes are funny. If you think it's that funny why don't you explain why it is
mighty storm
ye, it goes back to the whole "if you can't have kids you're not a woman" arguments transphobes like to make :p
finite wave
More like
zealous knot
because that makes the joke not funny 😐
warm anchor
Jokes are funny but what was said above isn’t funny though
mighty storm
completely forgetting the "women" they're talking about can sometimes not have kids
potent fossil
If you're laughing at the expense of another person, it's not and never was a joke. It's a personal attack.
warm anchor
^
minor badge
its understandable you associate the trash with the statement as it's more normal to hear, but he truly wasn't meaning it that way :p
finite wave
If you haven’t got/had a womb you aren’t a woman? Isn’t that a more solid argument regarding the biological part?
minor badge
artificial wombs bruh
mighty storm
not really, what about the cishet women who dont?
zealous knot
But you're just assuming i'm laughing at the expense of someone, you have no idea who was offended and who wasn't
worn ember
time to mute this channel and never open it again smh
limber knotBOT
wh ocares about the gender you were born with? smh
viral hornet
limber knotBOT
it's a personal attack when you use the statement as a reason why x person should not get y job or etc.
potent fossil
But you're just assuming i'm laughing at the expense of someone, you have no idea who was offended and who wasn't
But if at least one person is offended, then it's not ok.
twin lagoon
@minor badge 
minor badge
@twin lagoon 🥺
mighty storm
:3
twin lagoon
how's rory @mighty storm
zealous knot
But there's at least one person on this cursed eath that would be offended by any statement
limber knotBOT
and even then it's a bit loose, as it has to be a characteristic and not an action/choice
zealous knot
does that mean we stop talking
potent fossil
Yikes having to explain to people that making jokes about unchangeable qualities is not ok. That's discrimination. You can't decide that racial discrimination is not ok, then decide at the same thing that transgender discrimination is ok because haha jokes.
limber knotBOT
I would agree to that, there is only 7.8 billion himans
finite wave
I would only date someone of the opposite biological sex, not that i don’t want to be friends with trans people it just won’t go any further
potent fossil
Does not fucking work that way.
mighty storm
https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/751498001788174478 was the last time i interacted with her
limber knotBOT
*humans
twin lagoon
f
potent fossil
And then they pull the "lolwut, nvr did that. ur out of ur mind"
I'm leaving this disgusting convo
Have fun
zealous knot
damn simple what the fuck happened to you
mighty storm
yall did
limber knotBOT
u all dumcordians except for phoenix
finite wave
Discrimination as a whole is not okay, that is unless you are discriminating a behaviour that is deemed harmful
olive garden
if one of you joke about me coming from a historically corrupt, middle European country, I'm banning you
limber knotBOT
this is what discord does to a person 😔
zealous knot
wait so now it's okay for you to call us names?
warm anchor
The lack of self awareness is crazy
limber knotBOT
👀
potent fossil
I'm sorry, is "trashbin" an unchangeable quality about yourself? No, it's not. You can easily educate yourself and not be a piece of shit.
worn ember
pizza
limber knotBOT
nothing
potent fossil
That's the kind of stuff you're missing.
zealous knot
Yes but you're still calling me names
worn ember
is this Minecraft Education?
warm anchor
I witness simple being done twice today already
limber knotBOT
I mean he is simple 👀
woven otter
make wiz mod again so he kicks everyone ffs
warm anchor
Lol what a good start of the weekend
wide chasm
Let's quit whatever this conversation was supposed to be, before we go even further in this.
golden gust
Stef smells
limber knotBOT
convo is fine tbh
viral hornet
waxen panther
Never thought I’d say this but I miss wiz
olive garden
can we assume the sexual orientation of moderators, or is that against the rules now?
quasi valley
yeah stef wtf take a shower
limber knotBOT
ppl heated ya but no need to quit
mighty storm
someone: *says/does something offensive*
also them: *gets called out*
also them: "what the heck? why are you being so offensive"
basically yall right now
wide chasm
I take a shower whenever I feel like
worn ember
quick demote stef, he's doing his job runs
quasi valley
never?
olive garden
yeah, he stinks
waxen panther
Never then?
minor badge
you have feelings, stef?
next wind
lmao glad that conversation is over
wide chasm
I have feelings?
quasi valley
default avatars don't have feelings!
waxen panther
fr
mighty storm
no pfp no opinion 😤
finite wave
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU GUYS HAVE FOR DINNER
minor badge
taco
golden gust
fish and chips
finite wave
Nice