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cunning raft
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considering he was acting snippy on the issue tracker

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i'm trying to help him get his issue resolved but w/e

fleet osprey
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I mean this is the internet

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I already resolved my issue, I just thought I'd be nice and tell others

potent fossil
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Oh I see there was GH drama

fleet osprey
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but I just get denied, so I'm done

potent fossil
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Well, I am turning my ass around out of th is conversation

cunning raft
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but I just get denied, so I'm done
again

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you reported tuinity timings on the paper issue tracker

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paper needs paper timings

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who knows what leaf has in the ol crock pot of patches

fleet osprey
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cry?

potent fossil
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I mean JRoy, your comment was...more snippy than his, if im honest

quasi valley
fleet osprey
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yea like what's up with this dude lol? calling me snippy

static badge
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aoelite you should just produce it on paper if they ask

potent fossil
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am not taking sides

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just commenting

cunning raft
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i never said i wasn't snippy lul

potent fossil
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but yea tuinity timings on paper issue tracker is... not really helping; however, both of you are being snippy at each other

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kiss and make up

quasi valley
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*and make out smolTHEMAN

fleet osprey
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did anyone actually look at the timings?

cosmic raft
fleet osprey
cosmic raft
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@fleet osprey yes. the point is you're not running Paper, but a fork of Paper, and forks of Paper make changes

potent fossil
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Yes can clearly see there is on issue, but we need to see it when running on paper to confirm it's a paper issue

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That's the only thing

cunning raft
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and a spark report would be golden

fleet osprey
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Tuinity doesn't touch that

cunning raft
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it probably does

zealous wedge
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patch interactions are complex

static badge
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doesn't

cunning raft
static badge
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not like it matters

zealous wedge
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it is often not trivial to figure out what changes do or do not touch

potent fossil
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So what do we need to do to reproduce it?

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That's not in the issue

static badge
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just produce it on paper

potent fossil
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Yea, but he should do that not us

ancient bolt
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my computer went to sleep and that appears to have completely frozen the flight sim installer

static badge
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"not buggy for me" KAPPA

potent fossil
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We don't know what his plugins are

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So how can we repro

static badge
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at one point I had to uninstall it and nuke all of its dl'd files

cosmic raft
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This works the same with most projects. If you run a fork and report it to the parent project, the parent project is 99% of the time going to ask you to to reproduce it on the parent project as well

fleet osprey
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@potent fossil I explained what the plugins were doing in the post so

potent fossil
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Yeah, but we can repro that...we'd need to make our own plugins to repro that exact behavior.
That doesn't help.

vernal moth
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It's not like its so much effort to spin up a paper server and repro

potent fossil
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can't* repro

fleet osprey
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if you read further

vernal moth
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And it makes the teams work so much easier

potent fossil
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Yes, I read your issue.

fleet osprey
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all you have to do is just create new scoreboards

static badge
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KAPPA just get the slave triage team to do it

fleet osprey
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and then read a score ez

static badge
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you do it ao

potent fossil
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Yeah, but you also said that you rely on them being garbage collected... Most people just store their scoreboards and clean up after themselves, or am I having a stroke

cosmic raft
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Most people just store their scoreboards and clean up after themselves
yup

static badge
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CB relies on GC

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they're weakref'd

fleet osprey
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you can't remove the scoreboards from the collection, it's relying on the gc

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(unless you use reflection)

cosmic raft
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So if this is an issue, why did you close your GitHub issue?

quasi valley
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normal people don’t use bukkit api for scoreboards

potent fossil
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Ok well, I mean, it's probably a valid issue. If you don't want to take the time to repro it on paper (which would be very simple), I guess someone else can.

fleet osprey
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idk people seem triggered

potent fossil
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Can the issue just be reopened

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Someone will do it

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I'll do it later

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I mean fuck

minor badge
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just attach a minimal test case plugin for us to clone, build, and debug akkoShrug

fleet osprey
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do you want me to reopen it? even tho it doesn't have the right timings

potent fossil
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It's been reopened. I'll try to repro it tomorrow

ancient bolt
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if you could post the right timings on it that would be great

minor badge
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good night simple 🥺🥺

ancient bolt
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otherwise you're just relying on other people to do this work for you

static badge
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the timings is only relevant thanks to my changes to add timings

ancient bolt
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when it comes to debugging software it's all about removing as many variables as possible

static badge
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because i've known this to be an issue for a long time

ancient bolt
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that's why I always nuke my LVTs taysmart

potent fossil
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Are you saying paper timings don't time scoreboards?

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@ leaf

static badge
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no lol they don't

potent fossil
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well ok, ill write a minimal plugin and get a spark profile at the least then

fleet osprey
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the plot thickens

static badge
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I've timed it because dumbass plugins leak scoreboards

ancient bolt
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flight sim installer is now just sitting on "Please wait..."

static badge
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although in this case it looks like it could be gc behavior causing some issues

ancient bolt
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may have to nuke it as well

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real microsoft quality here

quasi valley
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how big is that game anyways?

ancient bolt
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base install seems 95GB

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language in the installer seems to imply there's more, esp with deluxe version

quasi valley
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ouch

ancient bolt
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but I won't know till the base install completes

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not over 100GB so idk if it's technically AAA

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My steam playtime is 82minutes for a game I haven't even installed yet

quasi valley
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lol, will be fun to see how size grows even more without people’s internet becoming better kekw

peak dirge
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Apparently, Intel's reached the end of the road with Skylake and either they've got to improve their 10nm yields (improving, but still awful) or they'll have to hackney a 10-15% IPC increase on their long-mature 14nm process.

floral mesa
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Skylake++++++++

ancient bolt
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Intel is royally fucked by AMD at this point

peak dirge
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14nm++++++++++++++++++++ while TSMC goes to Angstroms

ancient bolt
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they can't stop losing

floral mesa
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Pretty much

potent fossil
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you tellin me these ppl sit there and take all their users' hashed passwords and run it against leaks to find if their users are using leaked passwords, https://owo.whats-th.is/AMmGZRK.png

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haven't used that app in YEARS

vernal moth
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Wait till Intel looses even more to the other side of the spectrum, ARM

floral mesa
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Intel just hasn't been able to get a proper new architecture. AMD had a reason to rebuild their cpu architecture.

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I don't think bulldozer was a true failure, as aspects from that generation are applied to ryzen, such as ccx and ccds

peak dirge
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They can probably get an architecture with a 10-15% IPC increase on 14nm, it's doable, but they'll have little room to do it.

ancient bolt
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my 8350 bulldozer CPU performed great when I had it

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doesn't matter that it was a "fake" 8 core or w/e

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it undercut the price of intel chips by less than half

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and performed almost as well

vernal moth
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I used mine as a heater

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Didn't need an actual heater in winter

ancient bolt
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and yeah it was a hot boi lol

vernal moth
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I also overclocked that beast to idk

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Even if it was more like 4 than 8 cores, it sure did deliver

twin lagoon
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@mighty storm where's rory

mighty storm
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asleep somewhere probably

floral mesa
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The problem with core count was that it was two logic cores glued to an ALU

cosmic raft
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go find rory

mighty storm
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it's 2 am

cosmic raft
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so? :D

twin lagoon
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just got access to the beta

vernal moth
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Yeah, that's the whole thing where they lost the class action lawsuit to

mighty storm
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just redirects back home

cosmic raft
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^

ancient bolt
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I got $35 from that lawsuit

mighty storm
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also how did they get 1.1.1.1

vernal moth
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I don't

floral mesa
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Lol

vernal moth
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Cause Europe

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I have since resold that cpu anyways, lol

ancient bolt
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I gave mine away

floral mesa
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I wish I got $35 from an old APU I had, but I don't care enough for it

vernal moth
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Some niece of my mom plays fortnight on it and they insisted paying me for building it

cosmic raft
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I've got an i7-6700K sitting around

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I should sell it somehow eventually

twin lagoon
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look at that beautiful routing with 1.1.1.1 warp

vernal moth
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I got an 6700k sitting around too

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All with Mainboard and 32gb ram

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Even with a full loop water-cooling system

static badge
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there was a lawsuit for the core counts?

peak dirge
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yes

vernal moth
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Just no fans, PSU and drives, those I salvaged

peak dirge
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@mighty storm APNIC owns that IP range and allowed Cloudflare to announce it in exchange for allowing the Internet community (which I assure you exists) to do research involving it.

merry talon
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another reason the flight sim installer is dumb

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it counts as time playing the game

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if you wanted to refund it

vernal moth
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No it doesn't

peak dirge
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Not gonna install Microsoft Flight Simulator. Pretty sure it dun work with Proton.

ancient bolt
vernal moth
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Refund time and play time are different sweepy

merry talon
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I saw articles about this

vernal moth
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Refund time starts when you actually start to play

ancient bolt
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1.1.1.1 is a partnership between Cloudflare and APNIC.

Cloudflare had the network. APNIC had the IP address (1.1.1.1).

merry talon
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maybe it changed by now

vernal moth
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They all reposted the one source without checking

twin lagoon
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there's a noticable speed difference w/ WARP

vernal moth
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As usual

mighty storm
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Unfortunately, by default, DNS is usually slow and insecure. Your ISP, and anyone else listening in on the Internet, can see every site you visit and every app you use — even if their content is encrypted.
can't they do this too?

merry talon
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lol

twin lagoon
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browsing sites is super fast now

vernal moth
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Valve clarified

mighty storm
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what kinda argument is this, trust them over my own isp?

merry talon
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Exactly

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would you not?

twin lagoon
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i mean i'd rather trust cloudflare over your own ISP

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but they also over DNS over TLS

ancient bolt
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ISPs are notoriously untrustworthy

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Cloudflare's entire business model is built around privacy

twin lagoon
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they're one of the first ones to do so

ancient bolt
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huge difference

vernal moth
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Many ISPs did mitm stuff in the past

mighty storm
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how does 1.1.1.1 even work, just routes all your stuff through cloudflare instead of ISP? is this just a glorified VPN?

vernal moth
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Serve "custom" name not found pages for unknown dns records

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Etc

peak dirge
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thanks for reminding me

mighty storm
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Oh mine does that

peak dirge
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> nmcli connection up wg0
Connection successfully activated (D-Bus active path: /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/11)
twin lagoon
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@mighty storm 1.1.1.1 itself is just DNS

ancient bolt
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you can use "warp" as a VPN

twin lagoon
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1.1.1.1 WARP is just a VPN

peak dirge
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I trust RamNode more than my ISP

ancient bolt
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but 1.1.1.1 is DNS over HTTPS

mighty storm
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I don't get how it's any better than just ISP DNS

vernal moth
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Warp isn't even new

ancient bolt
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most DNS traffic is unencrypted

merry talon
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its way faster, for one

vernal moth
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Had it on my phone for ages

twin lagoon
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WARP forwards your IP though

ancient bolt
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cloudflare is one of few DNS providers to offer DNS over HTTPS

twin lagoon
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so technically it's a VPN

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but it also isn't

cosmic raft
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we need to do something else

mighty storm
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so if I go to any site using 1.1.1.1 as my dns everyone will just see 1.1.1.1?

cosmic raft
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DNS over IRC

vernal moth
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Well, it's not the proxy kind of VPN

ancient bolt
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well AT&T ISP redirects you to a fake AT&T google page when it can't resolve an IP

twin lagoon
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no

vernal moth
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Just a true tunnel

void void
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hi is there an anti-fly thing in paper like it has anti-xray?

twin lagoon
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1.1.1.1 is something you'd use on your own pc or phone

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it's a DNS server

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1.1.1.1 WARP is more VPN like

vernal moth
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Without the IP hiding part

mighty storm
peak dirge
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yep

vernal moth
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That should be illegal

twin lagoon
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Without the IP hiding part

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for any cloudflare site atleast

peak dirge
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it should be, but it's common practice in the US

potent fossil
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yeeeeaaahhhh yikes

mighty storm
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OH WAIT

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I understand now

twin lagoon
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my IP shows up as a cloudflare warp IP on google

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but shows up as my own on any other site

mighty storm
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all 1.1.1.1 does is ask cloudflare to handle domain.com -> ip address instead of your isp right?

ancient bolt
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outside viewers can see:

  1. you visited 1.1.1.1
  2. you visited some other IP address (almost certainly an AWS or Flastly or akamai or some other CDN IP, so that tells you almost nothing)

Normal DNS would see:

  1. you asked 1.1.1.1 for superillegalthinginmycountry.com
  2. etc, etc
vernal moth
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Ah interesting

peak dirge
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My ISP had an option to turn it off, but it still did the DNS hijack, instead it redirected you to a facsimile of the Internet Explorer 6 "page not found" error page

vernal moth
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So they only implemented forwarding via their own infra

twin lagoon
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it's only an added 10ms latency for me but it's worth it because of routing

ancient bolt
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I user pihole which forwards all DNS requests to cloudflared which does everything over DNS over HTTPS

worn pasture
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time to ddos michael

twin lagoon
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:(((

worn pasture
twin lagoon
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yes

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that's DNS for ya

mighty storm
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ah, makes perfect sense, thanks computer file

twin lagoon
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oh and i have ipv6 now because of warp

ancient bolt
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I also have redirect rules in my firewall to redirect any DNS requests not coming from the pihole back to the pihole

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so devices with hard-coded DNS servers can't get around it

twin lagoon
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strange to see lmao

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ipv6 is from cloudflare warp

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ipv4 is my own

mighty storm
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nice

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inb4 it's also your own and youre dosed

worn pasture
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dosed with what

ancient bolt
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I wonder if the flight sim installer will crash when my computer goes to sleep again

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Guess I should disable going to sleep

cosmic raft
twin lagoon
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that one shows up as cloudflare

mighty storm
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Question, so hypothetically. Say you ONLY support ipv6. Could cloudflare give you an ipv4 address to you like it gave an ipv6 to michael?

twin lagoon
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yes chew

viral hornet
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also 420 nice

mighty storm
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oh shit, even via ubuntu CLI?

ancient bolt
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this website wants me to stop blocking ICMPv6

worn pasture
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lol camm

twin lagoon
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.g cloudflare warp cli linux github

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
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^

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it's just wireguard in the end

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now the better question is

worn pasture
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i got 4/20 too hahaha

twin lagoon
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can i join my minecraft servers

mighty storm
worn pasture
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expected better from my office's connection tbh

twin lagoon
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oh look at that i can

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oh it's proxied though

mighty storm
mighty storm
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thats a lotta owos

cosmic raft
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owo

viral hornet
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😦

twin lagoon
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oh i don't have ipv6 without cloudflare warp

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i don't care either tbh

cosmic raft
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Setting up IPv6 was not fun

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that's what I had to do

worn pasture
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so many owo's where the love for the mighty uwu

mighty storm
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wgcf_2.1.3_darwin_amd64 for ubntu right?

twin lagoon
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no

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that's mac

mighty storm
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oop

twin lagoon
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chew KEKS

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you're supposed to know better KEKS

mighty storm
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they arent named 😡

peak dirge
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linux_amd64 for ubuntu

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unless you're using a raspberry pi, then get the linux_arm64 one

worn pasture
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ya darwin is macos

peak dirge
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wgcf_2.1.3_darwin_amd64 is for you people who use expensive fruit computers

worn pasture
peak dirge
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Hi Sam.

worn pasture
peak dirge
quasi valley
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I hate that logo everytime I see it

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reminds me of Facebook snowy

peak dirge
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at least Fedora isn't controlled by Mark Zuckerburg thonkingcool

quasi valley
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lmao

potent fossil
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actually facebook reminds you of fedora

peak dirge
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Facebook reminds me of RHEL - everyone over 50 is on there sharing conspiracy theory memes

peak dirge
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"GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY LINUX 2.6 KERNEL I DON'T WANT YOUR NEW HOTNESS"

mighty storm
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dammit, got stuck

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oh well

worn pasture
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/r/insanepeoplefacebook is my favourite sub

peak dirge
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"ALSO DID YOU KNOW POETTERING IS PLOTTING TO RUIN THE WORLD WITH SYSTEMD?!?"

mighty storm
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# ip link add dev wg0 type wireguard
Error: Unknown device type.```
idfk
worn pasture
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we need spigot drama bot in here

twin lagoon
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you need to install wireguard @lapis echo

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oh

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wrong chew!

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should've picked a better name!

mighty storm
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i did install wireguard

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do i need to restart session

twin lagoon
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restart your pc

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probably needs a kernel module unless you're on the latest kernel

mighty storm
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im on 20.04

twin lagoon
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that's ubuntu and ubuntu bad

zealous wedge
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smh someone else stealing her identity

mighty storm
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😡

peak dirge
void void
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isn't wireguard in tree now?

twin lagoon
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yes

mighty storm
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@worn pasture my bot has a command for it, best command

void void
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inb4 ubuntu 20.04 still has some 3.2.x kernel

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lol

mighty storm
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how do i check

worn pasture
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lets geddit

void void
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uname -a

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or rather

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uname -r

mighty storm
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i agree

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5.4.44-2-pve```
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still unknown, sad

peak dirge
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Ubuntu 20.04 has a Linux 5.4 kernel, but supposedly they backported the WireGuard kernel module

void void
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oh no

peak dirge
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proxmox thing I guess

mighty storm
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oh no

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is that bad

twin lagoon
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wtf how do you have proxmox's kernel

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lmao

mighty storm
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dude bro idk

void void
potent fossil
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kekw wtf

quasi valley
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dude bro guy man

twin lagoon
void void
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my dude

mighty storm
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# uname -a
Linux chew-ipv6 5.4.44-2-pve #1 SMP PVE 5.4.44-2 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020 16:37:57 +0200) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux```
twin lagoon
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my broski

potent fossil
twin lagoon
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chew is that your desktop

mighty storm
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no thats a vps i fired up

twin lagoon
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do a good ol cat /etc/os-release

potent fossil
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Chew is that some vps or a desktop

twin lagoon
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oh

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oh.

zealous wedge
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chuwu

twin lagoon
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yeah that makes more sense

potent fossil
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ok whatever host is prob running proxmox then kekw

mighty storm
#
NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="20.04.1 LTS (Focal Fossa)"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS"
VERSION_ID="20.04"
HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy"
VERSION_CODENAME=focal
UBUNTU_CODENAME=focal```
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but my ques!!!! t ION!

twin lagoon
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chew uwu

mighty storm
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Line unrecognized: `Address=172.16.0.2/32'
Configuration parsing error```
smh
potent fossil
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This guy I went to school with do be using FB as a venting platform, and also as a platform for venting some very worrying things zed Like indirectly he is referring to women very strangely.

mighty storm
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👀

potent fossil
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If I had to define "incel" with a person, the way he's posting atm is that

twin lagoon
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simple did you see my DBH review yet

potent fossil
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"I can't get a woman. No woman will ever love me. I am fucking everything up. I just want to love somebody."

"Why do women always go for assholes and here I am, a nice guy, right here."

"Why do you girls always choose guys who don't love you? I would love you."

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It's like

potent fossil
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Like, he is throwing up so many red flags it's terrifying.

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And his mom is the only one who comments that "The right one will come along" and he heart reacts it every time

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It just.

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Stop

void void
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lmao

mighty storm
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i give up

twin lagoon
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chew uwu

mighty storm
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too infuriating

void void
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giving up wat

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setting up vpn using wireguard?

cosmic raft
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hi @twin lagoon

mighty storm
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yes setting up cloudflare thingy

twin lagoon
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hello

void void
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cloudflare wat

twin lagoon
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chew are you invited to the cloudflare warp beta

mighty storm
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wireguard wont work

twin lagoon
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because you can't do it otherwise

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lol

mighty storm
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listen here, we aren't there yet

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im stuck on step one

void void
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wtf is cloudflare warp even over wireguard

twin lagoon
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it's a vpn

void void
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iirc it wasn't, lol

twin lagoon
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but it's not a vpn

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but it also is

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you get the cloudflare routing experience over a wireguard vpn from them

mighty storm
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ip link add dev wg0 type wireguard doesn't work

void void
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you need to change the kernel

mighty storm
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and how

void void
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or install wireguard-dkms

mighty storm
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did

void void
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with build-essential

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and ensure the dkms package builds

mighty storm
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oh

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yeah ill do this tomorrow it's 2:30 am

twin lagoon
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chew where's rory

void void
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make sure you also install linux-$(uname -r)-headers

mighty storm
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not with me mike

twin lagoon
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rory hates us

cosmic raft
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g e t r o r y

twin lagoon
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^

mighty storm
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idk where she is

cosmic raft
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find her

quasi valley
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Find Rory

twin lagoon
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find rory

void void
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find kneny

mighty storm
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ok but i get to uwu when i find her

twin lagoon
mighty storm
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just once

cosmic raft
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uwu

quasi valley
twin lagoon
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uwu

void void
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300$ penalty for uwu

twin lagoon
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what if you wanted to play a game but god said SHADER COMPILATION PROCESS

void void
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hmmmmm

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dxvk?

twin lagoon
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nope it's just the game tiself

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lmao

mighty storm
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Unable to locate package linux-5.4.44-2-pve-headers
desolate

void void
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bruh

twin lagoon
void void
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well then just change the kernel

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install uhhh

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idfk i don't use ubuntu

mighty storm
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do i just do /kernal set bruh into chat

potent fossil
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yea why are you trying to install pve one 😭

void void
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michael you ubuntu nerd go fix

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/s

mighty storm
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THATSJUST WHATCAME WITH IT

cosmic raft
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michael

mighty storm
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!!!

potent fossil
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are you just trying to get headers or

twin lagoon
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pet it

void void
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chew needs both

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lol

mighty storm
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😡

zealous wedge
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@cosmic raft uwu

cosmic raft
#

uwu

twin lagoon
#

uwu

potent fossil
#

well

latent valve
zealous wedge
#

new :rorypat: pls

potent fossil
#

alright anyway

void void
#

hey kashike upd8 mikroskeem pls :c

potent fossil
#

i took a melatonin pill and drank 2 cups of sleepytime tea

#

so :^) goodnight

void void
#

gnite simple

cosmic raft
#

@void void you do know

#

that I added that emoji

#

after you showed your new one

#

right?

mighty storm
#

i thought melatonin was was the thing you put in your printer

void void
#

yes hence i'm asking now

cosmic raft
prime pawn
#

Why are there filthy cat pics in general

mighty storm
#

xcuse u

prime pawn
#

😂

mental meadow
#

uwu

cosmic raft
#

uwu awowa

zealous wedge
#

uwu owora

quasi valley
#

why does discord order emojis from 9-z-a smolEyes

#

only just noticed lol

cedar spade
#

kneneny2 when

latent valve
cosmic raft
#

@quasi valley pair of shoes waiting for you in #memes

mental meadow
#

good morning 😄

#

kash you remember what we did yesterday? That completely trashed my PC 😂

cedar spade
#

0/10 not enough shoes

vernal moth
#

This thread is gold

quasi valley
#

person addressed was “Lenin” 😂

rugged python
#

is paper 1.16.2 stable yet?

mental meadow
zealous knot
#

holy shit that thread is epic

minor badge
#

@quasi valley uwu

mental meadow
#

@minor badge uwuaheartsred

quasi valley
minor badge
#

come onnn kneni <3

mental meadow
vernal moth
#

The mario one ended up in my timeline, that's how I saw it

#

Then I saw the hitler one and was sold

worn ember
#

Minimessage is awesome btw

#

😉

vernal moth
#

No, youre awesome!

worn ember
#

You're* but thanks 😄

wet smelt
#

is paper 1.16.2 stable yet?
@rugged python Paper is getting frequent updates. It doesn't have stable releases such as other server software. If you wanna be a little bit more sure, make sure not to update immediately when they publish new builds. Or at least have a look at the commit first. If they modify core mechanics, maybe wait a few days and see if it gets reverted.
1.16.2 is probably more stable than 1.16.1

vernal moth
#

But generally, paper fixes a few critical issues spigot has, so its at least more stable than that ^^

#

One fourth of servers already updated to 1.16.2 and this isn't a raging hell, so seems to be fine

wet smelt
#

Does anyone know how ressource-intensive player trails are (basically spawning lots of particles so players leave a trail, or it looks like they got wings)
I tested with a few friends yesterday and it didn't look like there was a difference in server load, will it be noticeable on a bigger server tho?

quasi valley
#

sending particles is just sending single packets without any calculation, computing or whatever (unless you do distance checks and whatever), but that's not really heavy

#

it just depends on the calculations you do on your own, but just look at any big mc network and their countless particle effects :p

vernal moth
#

It's more that you are destroying client FPS

quasi valley
#

.. something to look out for are clients tho, you don't wanna dos them with particles

#

yeah lol

#

can also be very bad for players with a bad internet connection

void void
#

first day at school, again

#

hopefully i don't get too lazy this time and drop out, lol

wet smelt
#

Thanks for your input @quasi valley !
Yea I was not planning on overdoing it, gonna keep it somewhat subtle. And it's only available as a rare drop / for vips, so not that many players will have it. I only have 20 players on my server at best anyways, so unlikely there will be more than 5 in the same space at any given time.

zealous wedge
#

@void void have you dropped out yet

worn ember
#

i like ddossing my players

void void
#

not yet!

zealous wedge
#

and it's been 13 whole minutes, nice

void void
#

same

#

well i last 3/4 of 1st semester last time

#

lmao

zealous wedge
#

not bad

worn ember
#

mikropp

void void
#

dedpp

worn ember
#

wait are you in college?

#

or hs

void void
#

uni

worn ember
#

ah

void void
#

hs wtf

worn ember
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
#

bruh i don't want that time back

#

ever

worn ember
#

ahaha

#

hs wasnt so bad

void void
#

mine was

#

childish people

worn ember
#

thats true tho

rugged python
#

I accidently renamed a plugin from Denizen.jar to only .jar (no name at all) running ubuntu 16.04... Now I can't find it in Winscp nor when I do ls in console... but when I run my server i get this error:

#

Anyone knows how to find it and delete it?

#

I was updating the plugin, that's why i have two of them

void void
#

rm .jar

#

use shell, luke

#

;^)

worn ember
#

cant you just mv .jar Denizen.jar?

void void
#

i'll mv u into /dev/null

#

tbh more seriously speaking

#

.g linux fuse void filesystem

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49704210/file-system-in-userspace-fuse-compilation-error -- File System in Userspace (FUSE) compilation error - Stack...: "In my Archlinux there are two fuse packages: fuse2 and fuse3. ... <stdlib.h> static void* pre_init(struct fuse_conn_info *conn, struct fuse_config ..."

rugged python
#

rm .jar worked 🙂

void void
#

meh

#

@coarse hornet linux void filesystem

coarse hornetBOT
void void
#

k

worn ember
#

best search engine

cedar spade
#

pifs best fs

ashen cliff
#

mysqlfs best fs.

twin lagoon
#

mongodb gridfs

cedar spade
#

ntfs best fs

#

runs

zealous knot
#

i mean that is true

quasi valley
#

ntfs2 wen md

#

or n32fs

#

or n3fsfs

void void
#

refs

#

you nutsack

#

actually zfs is only based filesystem

ashen cliff
#

Based? Based on what?

worn ember
#

yes

viral hornet
#

@twin lagoon 🥺

heady spear
#

I am gonna become an opera singer

#

and quit uni

viral hornet
#

Sounds beautiful

indigo lichen
#

I'm gonna become an OnlyFans sensation 😳

limber knotBOT
#

isn't onlyfans dead now?

heady spear
#

bcuz of bella thorne

#

smh

#

dum disney hoe

left swift
#

Bella Thorne kills alot of things

ashen cliff
left swift
ashen cliff
worn ember
#

how did she kill it?

heady spear
#

I have to read a 118 page report on sustainable disposal of electronics

#

Fuck my life

worn ember
#

its important

heady spear
#

No

#

I throw my electronics in the trash so they end up on some landfill

#

Don’t need a report to tell me that it’s wrong

left swift
#

That's the best disposal

heady spear
#

But I have no moral so idc

worn ember
#

clearly not

#

hope they dispose of you soon too 🙂

left swift
#

It's even better to give ur old electronics to your hoarder relative to add to their collection

heady spear
#

Fuck everyone else on the planet

#

You all suck anyway

left swift
#

U swallow

heady spear
#

No

left swift
#

Ya

heady spear
#

Cum makes my throat itch

cedar spade
#

city pls

heady spear
#

Pls what

worn ember
#

i dont remember asking

finite wave
#

Nice

quasi valley
#

pls

#

city

left swift
#

That should be a pin

finite wave
#

Should drink some water

#

Or something to water it down with

heady spear
#

Swallowing cum seems great in theory

#

But it’s not that great tbh

left swift
#

That's how babies are made

heady spear
#

I always bring doggy bags and have people cum in there

#

Then I put biohazard stickers on the bags and put them in a furnace

#

Though I’ve heard that semen makes for a good face mask

#

Hey where did everyone go

#

So quiet

left swift
#

U scared everyone away

proven shore
#

Hello

#

Do anyone knows how to fix the nether bug

#

so basically when i go to the nether it works fine

#

but when i tried to go to the overworld it doesn't go to the same portal i went in

#

the portal randomly teleport

#

im running paper 170 1.16.2

#

only 1 plugin on the server skinrestorer

limber knotBOT
#

does the same happen in vanilla?

proven shore
#

i cant confirm or deny that

limber knotBOT
#

also are you sue that you don't just missunderstand the portal logic?

#

*sure

proven shore
#

yes im sure

limber knotBOT
#

so the portal from nether to overworld always puts you to a new, random position? with or without a portal?

cedar spade
#

city I stg

proven shore
#

with portal

#

yes random

#

like 40/50 blocks away from the original portal

limber knotBOT
#

so it createa new portal each time you go through it from the same nether portal?

proven shore
#

Yes

#

like it doesn't go back to the first portal i went in

rotund cargo
#

Have you the latest paprr ? @proven shore

proven shore
#

yes i think so

rotund cargo
#

Mmh

proven shore
#

oh 4version behind

limber knotBOT
#

it's not latest but there aren't really any changes related to that

proven shore
#

so is updating the paper will fix it?

limber knotBOT
#

unlikely

#

please test in vanilla as well as on different locations, it's important to know where a bug stems from. also test with a server on default configs and if it still happens report it on github.

proven shore
#

theserver has been up for like 2days

#

and i havent change anyconfig

#

i just report the problem to git hub

finite wave
#

Ok

proven shore
#

Is there like a fix to it?

#

like maybe a plugin to fix it?

glad narwhal
#

guys, how to make people report about plugin bugs on github instead of discussions when you told them everywhere to report about bugs on github

vernal moth
#

You don't, ppl don't read

glad narwhal
#

shoot

#

it reminds me a moment when some guy asked me how to use plugin when i've already written manual how to use plugin

twin lagoon
#

@viral hornet 🥺

mighty storm
#

I need to find Rory

twin lagoon
#

rory!

#

where is rory @mighty storm

mighty storm
#

I don't know that's why I need to find her

twin lagoon
mighty storm
#

Should I steal her and fall asleep

twin lagoon
#

yes

#

rory is precious

mighty storm
#

Yes

cedar spade
#

go to sleep

left swift
#

U first

vernal moth
#

Do we still have the vk command here?

#

.vk

#

Mmh

#

?vk

#

Sad

ashen cliff
#

Very.

limber knotBOT
#

?vk

#

bot doesn't forward question mark commands ;)

cedar spade
#

it's on MOSS, iirc it was never on here

slim nymph
#

question mark isnt for irc

#

gonna do future commands on discord, as we can do fancier stuff here

#

like auto delete, prevent spam abuse

#

and embeds!

spiral sparrow
#

hello

leaden oxideBOT
#

Goal of this change is to stop massive chunk loads. Please verify any plugins that might teleport entities.

slim nymph
#

dyno premum has a lot of useful stuff

#

thats wasted time trying to rebuild all that crap

#

gotta factor in how much your time is worth, and just saying my hourly rate aint cheap, cost of dyno is like 1-2 hours of my time lol

worn ember
#

secondary memory, is that your RAM?

spiral sparrow
#

aikar

#

is paper your job

worn ember
#

he has a job, paper is his free time project

spiral sparrow
#

ok

#

how do you know

worn ember
#

he's said it before

slim nymph
#

no lol

#

i have a day job, a mc server i run, paper, numerous open source projects, family, pets. so yeah i have no time

next wind
#

whats your mc server?

slim nymph
#

il gladly pay for someone else to do the work for me

spiral sparrow
#

what kind of pets

slim nymph
#

lol how do people not already know this, its even advertised on timings 😛

next wind
#

really?

slim nymph
spiral sparrow
#

do you think i could get one

worn ember
#

people dont read

slim nymph
#

2 dogs 2 cats

cedar spade
#

what's reading

spiral sparrow
#

i want a dog or cat

#

aikar

#

can i have your permission to @ kashike

slim nymph
#

no, dont ping peopel for random reasons

limber knotBOT
#

wtf, my jenkins built a branch that wasn't configured thonk

slim nymph
#

@next wind while our features themselves arent really unique, main appeal is one unified CONSISTENT experience, everything is built to work together. not piecing 50 plugins together, we build everything ourselves. base is just a "better" base vanilla survival experience.

worn ember
#

i bets its secretly factions pvp

next wind
#

yeah the custom difficulty is a cool feature

dreamy pond
#

wheres the link for 1.16.2 papermc server jar?

limber knotBOT
#

.download

dreamy pond
#

ty

spiral sparrow
#

aikar

slim nymph
#

some players dont like survival, so they stay in the peaceful town and thrive off economy. some really like survival and agree base minecraft is super easy, so can crank up the difficulty

spiral sparrow
#

it’s not random

dreamy pond
#

:)))))

spiral sparrow
#

i have a question

#

for kashike

next wind
#

then dm them?

slim nymph
#

ive heard of others having custom difficulty, dunno if any is as clean as ours though 😛

#

just ask, kash is a constant lurker :p

spiral sparrow
#

ok

ancient bolt
#

Paper is no one's job

spiral sparrow
#

kashike how do you make your jet brains have these colors

worn ember
#

dammit aikar, i wanted to do something similar to you xD

#

have like the vanilla experience but way harder

slim nymph
#

varying color variable names huck?

spiral sparrow
#

i dont know

void void
#

shift-shift, semantic highlighting

spiral sparrow
#

he posted this

twin lagoon
#

send a proper image

slim nymph
#

wtf is that blob

void void
#

or just change color theme

spiral sparrow
twin lagoon
#

upload it to imgur

slim nymph
#

stop uploading files

cedar spade
#

mmm jpeg

slim nymph
#

paste the image itself

spiral sparrow
#

how

slim nymph
#

copy image, paste

next wind
#

no discords broken right now

spiral sparrow
#

i saved it like that

next wind
#

its doing that everywhere

cedar spade
#

||inb4 nobody has embed image perms||

next wind
#

nope its in my dms too

worn ember
#

lmao it is

slim nymph
next wind
#

and my server

slim nymph
#

weird

ancient bolt
#

Kash has a custom theme

worn ember
spiral sparrow
#

can i have it

#

demon.wav

cedar spade
#

what does demon.wav sound like

cedar spade
#

and why is it not demon.mp3

twin lagoon
#

like this

ancient bolt
#

Sounds like rainbows and kittens

slim nymph
#

demon.flac, time to change name

spiral sparrow
#

i searched your name on youtube

#

and a scary image showed up

cedar spade
#

wow

ancient bolt
#

Compression is a sin

slim nymph
#

IRL GIF of demon

worn ember
#

looks accurate

spiral sparrow
#

maybe kashike is sleep

#

i will ask next time he posts a message

cedar spade
#

that's demon.gif smh

ancient bolt
#

demon.rar

worn ember
#

demon.rawr

#

bleh, operating systems final tomorrow

#

i need to know how to calculate cpu cycles yikes

left swift
#

Owo rawr xd

spiral sparrow
#

do you guys have different looks on jetbrains

#

i want to use something new i installed it then it made my head dizzy when i got off the computer

#

and i busted my head on the lamp

twin lagoon
#

how old are you

next wind
#

lmao

spiral sparrow
#

demonwav

twin lagoon
#

ignored lmao

#

of course the troll doesn't want to reply

next wind
#

@spiral sparrow are you above the age of 11

cedar spade
#

All <12 year olds get mad if you call them out

twin lagoon
#

nah it's a troll

#

guy added me like 3 weeks ago

#

magically found my username & id somewhere & added me

#

sent some indian guy's cock and balls picture to me

#

joined the paper server 2 days after

cedar spade
#

sounds like report time

zealous wedge
#

@mighty storm uwu

twin lagoon
#

user deleted his message in dm after i blocked him so

cedar spade
#

||as if Discord actions reports||

next wind
#

yeah wtf does discord not have reports

cunning raft
#

it does for mods only

spiral sparrow
#

no i didnt

#

i told you my brother did that

cunning raft
#

when you delete a message you can decide to report it to discord

spiral sparrow
#

he was on my phone

next wind
#

lmao please ban

twin lagoon
#

right your brother magically found my username & id

spiral sparrow
#

i didnt even do anything

zealous wedge
#

@minor badge @mental meadow @twin lagoon uwu

twin lagoon
#

and sends nsfw pictures to someone at random

limber knotBOT
#

just use @mods, lol

twin lagoon
#

and your discord account is like 2 months old

next wind
#

can i ping @ mods

spiral sparrow
#

what

#

ive has this discord

cedar spade
#

I mean I wasn't going to mention it in front of an obvious troll but uh, you guys do you

zealous wedge
#

oh I'm not here for their moderation I just want to uwu

waxen panther
#

Never trust people without profile pictures

next wind
#

^

twin lagoon
#

@cedar spade i had reported it in another discord but no action was taken in paper

#

figured i'd just send it here before people waste more time

next wind
#

or with profile pictures with terrible fonts

twin lagoon
spiral sparrow
#

if you guys are gonna ban me

limber knotBOT
#

just report spam to discord, lmao

worn ember
#

stef: sad_pepe

spiral sparrow
#

can i please have kashikes discord theme

twin lagoon
#

phoenix, useless

spiral sparrow
#

jetbrains theme

cedar spade
#

when you use superior mode™️, nobody has profile pictures

limber knotBOT
#

s/superior mode/irc

#

Correction, <DiscordBot> <06M​D ​(n​ot​ t​ha​t ​on​e)​> when you use irc™️, nobody has profile pictures

#

runs

spiral sparrow
#

please let me have the theme before you ban me

#

it is good

waxen panther
#

no

#

only good boys get the theme

spiral sparrow
#

why

#

i did nothing wrong

cedar spade
waxen panther
#

ok

twin lagoon
#

sure

waxen panther
#

you haven’t done anything good either

cedar spade
#

discord pls

waxen panther
#

Another person with no avatar

#

We’re doomed

spiral sparrow
#

why are you all messing with me what did i do

waxen panther
#

wtf

spiral sparrow
#

michael i thought we put it aside

limber knotBOT
#

beep boop

proven shore
#

@bot

waxen panther
#

Never mind it’s a weeb even worse ohno

limber knotBOT
#

ur a weeb

proven shore
#

whats the cliend that ur using

waxen panther
#

never

limber knotBOT
#

weechat

waxen panther
#

It’s an irc bridge not a bot

quasi valley
#

weebchat?

proven shore
#

WTF

next wind
#

its not a bot

proven shore
#

theres

waxen panther
#

It’s an irc bridge not a bot
@waxen panther

next wind
#

its a weblink or whatever

limber knotBOT
#

kneny: I'll weeb your chat in a minute

next wind
#

right

proven shore
#

An app

#

To doit

quasi valley
proven shore
#

just search bot client on github

quasi valley
#

see what you did md, now everyone's going crazy

cedar spade
#

my brain hurts

waxen panther
#

my soul hurts

quasi valley
#

me hurts

limber knotBOT
#

just ban everyone who doesn't know IRC, lmao

proven shore
#

lmaooo

worn ember
#

i leave for 2 minutes and the average iq drops 40 points smh

wide chasm
#

Because you came back

#

runs

waxen panther
#

And now that you’re back it’s-

limber knotBOT
#

:3

waxen panther
#

Stef is faster

#

😔

cedar spade
#

hey it would've dropped by 100 if I wasn't around

worn ember
#

stef, they say they cant trust you

#

you have no pfp

quasi valley
#

yeah from 50 to -50

#

or would we have an iq underflow?

#

and maximum intelligence

slim nymph
#

we could have an irc test to use irc, to use irc you must connect using telnet only and stay connected

worn ember
#

telnet monkaS

mental meadow
#

IQ is saved as a single byte kneny

slim nymph
#

ive done irc over telnet 😛

worn ember
#

i remember getting phone calls when we had fax

quasi valley
#

but if it's signed it only goes to 127 tinfoilhat

mental meadow
#

It's not signed dw

worn ember
#

you dont need to worry about that anyway kenny

mental meadow
#

It's a webhook not a bot tho

limber knotBOT
#

A​la​ne​k: it's a webhook

next wind
#

webhook

#

bots cant have 0000

quasi valley
#

you can ping bots

next wind
#

and you can ping them

limber knotBOT
#

imagine trying to prove a point by using evidence to the contrary

mental meadow
#

Weebhook

limber knotBOT
#

user bots are not bot accounts

#

nor webhooks

mental meadow
#

Look I can also

fallen oracle
#

I don't know what it is but after updating to 2020.2.1, any time I'm doing stuff with the Material enum, IJ freezes up and says low on memory.

limber knotBOT
#

A​la​ne​k: are you dumb or trolling?

quasi valley
#

yes glare, I have that too :<

fallen oracle
#

Okay cool so it's not just me, there's actually a problem.

quasi valley
#

even just indexing methods sometimes

limber knotBOT
#

material enum? that's your problem lol

worn ember
#

yeah same glare

#

it takes like 5 minutes to index it

quasi valley
#

not decompiling zml, literally just using

fallen oracle
#

So the question is, do we go back to 2020.2

waxen panther
#

Give it more memory if you can

worn ember
#

ive complained about it a few times here kek

spiral sparrow
#

glare how does your intellij look

waxen panther
#

Mines been fine for awhile though

minor badge
#

it's basically a bot acting as a fake user, Alanek

spiral sparrow
#

idk how to fix the problem but i just want to know

worn ember
#

its been doing stupid stuff with refactoring too

waxen panther
#

Huck just instal the material theme plugin and stop asking for everyone’s pallets smh

cedar spade
slim nymph
#

lol i love how microsoft is self leaking the XSS console

waxen panther
#

Now that, is a great idea md

spiral sparrow
#

i think i tried it before but i didn’t like it @waxen panther

stiff yarrow
#

is that the name of it

#

Microsoft pls

#

these names

slim nymph
#

Series S yeah

spiral sparrow
#

i just wanted a new color scheme

#

thats not the white one

cedar spade
#

I don't think they even care about hiding it at this point

waxen panther
#

It has a bunch of color schemes lol

slim nymph
#

XSX/XSS what else shorten you gonna do for it lol

stiff yarrow
#

I can't tell which xbox is newer than another xbox due to the terrible naming scheme

spiral sparrow
#

umm

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do you have a list

slim nymph
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yeah the naming has been a fail

quasi valley
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next you'll have cloth sizes, xs, xxs, xxl

worn ember
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reminds me of XSL monkaomega

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you're xxl, kneni 🥺

quasi valley
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proxi calling me fat

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wow

slim nymph
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ima get it though just for dem load speeds

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not that kinda xxl 😳

spiral sparrow
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sorry @waxen panther

waxen panther
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??

spiral sparrow
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a list?

quasi valley
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brocco he's sorry, accept him

slim nymph
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pawn my X1X to my brother

waxen panther
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Install the plugin and the setup wizard lists them for you

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I am not sorry

slim nymph
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as the X1S is so fucking slow

spiral sparrow
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i meant for intellij

waxen panther
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oml

spiral sparrow
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i dont like the material theme

slim nymph
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the OG X1 was faster than S :/

waxen panther
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Pain

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there's not the material theme, the plugin has like 10

spiral sparrow
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sorry i dont understand im new to all this stuff

slim nymph
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hope XSS isnt too bad

waxen panther
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.g IntelliJ themes

limber knotBOT
waxen panther
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Wrong one

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f

waxen panther
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Knock ur self out

spiral sparrow
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ok

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thank you

slim nymph
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im marinating some chicken in ghost pepper hotsauce, and cleaned the bottle off some, had to wash hands lol

spiral sparrow
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what is better for paper?

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visual studio code or jetbrains

waxen panther
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Ok

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Im out

slim nymph
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if the dogs get into the trash, hes gonna be in serious pain

spiral sparrow
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i downloaded both and there are nicer theme in visual studio code

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or does jetbrains work better