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tidal quartz
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1.15+ only

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in the sig

tidal quartz
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ah ok

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cloudflare is having issues again :')

vestal jasper
quasi valley
tidal quartz
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Spoogot :D

vestal jasper
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I mean selecting any amount of versions shows that trend

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well, any amount + 1.16.2

tidal quartz
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Interesting, that amount of users using Spigot 1.16.2 not decrease so much with using Paper increases..

quasi valley
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I only did that graph a few days ago, but else you had a high + with people updating to 1.16.2 on Spigot every day before Paper came out

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so + and - cancels out / people switching being ever so slightly higher

vestal jasper
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larger time scale would be interesting to look at

twin lagoon
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.kneny

limber knotBOT
void void
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wtf

limber knotBOT
mental meadow
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my website is getting used yay

twin lagoon
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it's fucking worse now cloudflare what the fuck

marble lark
quasi valley
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SpawnerCreature.php wtf

cedar spade
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pocketmine

vestal jasper
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Why would you willingly use php?

twin lagoon
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why would you use that scaling on 1080p too

marble lark
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Why would you willingly use php?
I'm not the one who made it lol

limber knotBOT
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why would you not disable the search

twin lagoon
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why would you use eclipse with php

limber knotBOT
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why would you use light mode

marble lark
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I just found it funny

twin lagoon
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there's a lot of things going wrong here tbh

limber knotBOT
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god, there is so much wrong on this screenshot its insane

twin lagoon
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lmao

marble lark
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why would you use eclipse with php
To laugh at PHP server lol

twin lagoon
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use visual studio code or webstorm

marble lark
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why would you use light mode
Too lazy switch modes

vestal jasper
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Weebstorm pls

twin lagoon
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disable your windows search bar, change your scaling to 100%

limber knotBOT
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I mean the scaling I can understand, some people just have shitty eyes

vestal jasper
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And please set taskbar to autohide you're losing so much svreenspace for something you probably don't use often

twin lagoon
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considering it's a laptop, more likely for it to be set by default

marble lark
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I mean the scaling I can understand, some people just have shitty eyes
Nah it's more on me not knowing how to change it

twin lagoon
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and that the users aren't noticing it

marble lark
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xdxd

twin lagoon
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right click your wallpaper

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display options

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change scaling to 100%

limber knotBOT
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also > avast 👀

twin lagoon
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you now have a bunch of extra screenspace

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where do you see avast phoenix

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lol

vestal jasper
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How far does this rabbit hole go?

limber knotBOT
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oh wait, that's blender?

twin lagoon
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yes

marble lark
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also > avast 👀
No idea what that is but probably was pre-installed

twin lagoon
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just, change your scaling thx

marble lark
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oh wait, that's blender?

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yea it is lul

twin lagoon
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and stop using eclipse

marble lark
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and stop using eclipse
Nah

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😉

vestal jasper
marble lark
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me nu enuf cash

vestal jasper
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What

limber knotBOT
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what

vestal jasper
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Ur dumb

twin lagoon
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intellij is free

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visual studio code is free

marble lark
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isn't

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I alr have Visual Studio

twin lagoon
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not visual studio

vestal jasper
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Yes it fucking is lol I use it. Free. Legally.

twin lagoon
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visual studio code

marble lark
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isn't IntelliJ paid or something

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tf

vestal jasper
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Community Edition IDEA

twin lagoon
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no

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community edition is free

marble lark
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oh lol

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oopsie

twin lagoon
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if you're a student all of jetbrains is free aswell

limber knotBOT
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also just have a semi large open source project and you get the full IntelliJ set for free too

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although relying on proprietary software is a bit me :(

marble lark
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idk lol

vestal jasper
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We prob wouldn't shill idea as much as we do if it wasn't free

marble lark
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for me Eclipse was easiest to set up so screw it I just went for it

limber knotBOT
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easiest to setup: shittiest to use

vestal jasper
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I wonder if carbon falls under idea open source requirements yet

marble lark
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Visual Studio still commits seppuku every time I start it up XD

twin lagoon
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likely vic

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visual studio code

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visual studio is completely different

limber knotBOT
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visual studio is shit

twin lagoon
vestal jasper
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I don't have a large community for it but I meet the time requirement iirc

limber knotBOT
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visual studio code is pretty rad

twin lagoon
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@vestal jasper get a yourkit license while at it

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you can get that with any decent mc plugin

limber knotBOT
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eww yourkit

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the shittiest issue management there is

marble lark
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easiest to setup: shittiest to use
Maybe it is but I'm not an advanced enough programmer to notice any flaws it may have

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hey if it works it works xd

twin lagoon
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can't notice them either with eclipse

limber knotBOT
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you can't really notice what you are missing if you don't know it's possible, lol

marble lark
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you can't really notice what you are missing if you don't know it's possible, lol
true that

vestal jasper
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That's like a fucked variation of dunning Kruger, but instead of being too dumb to know (how) you're dumb, you're too dumb to know (how) your IDE is dumb.

marble lark
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petition to submit a PR to change Paper spawn logic to if($level->isNether()) $pos = self::getHighestBlockAt() - 100 pls

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That's like a fucked variation of dunning Kruger, but instead of being too dumb to know (how) you're dumb, you're too dumb to know (how) your IDE is dumb.
is it really?

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that's only when you're ultra confident in something you actually can't do no?

vestal jasper
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I'm not calling you dumb specifically

marble lark
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I know

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why are u no fun anymore vic

vestal jasper
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What do you mean

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@minor badge

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why arent u calling him dumb 😔

vestal jasper
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I only abuse you

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Xoxo

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wtf

marble lark
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why arent u calling him dumb 😔
Plz no you're giving me vietnam flashbacks of you and JanTuck on Spigot when I first joined

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my ISP's having big issues atm

marble lark
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;-;

vestal jasper
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Proxi you like the abuse

wide chasm
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There's a story there and I want it

spice finch
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isn't it cloudflare anymore proxi?

vestal jasper
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I'm not sure Sherman would like it

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nah cloudflare resolved their issues

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i think so anyways, havent checked their status

fervent kite
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hi all, i recently used chunky and it worked great. now im wanting to set a world border separately for all dimensions, which is best?\

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/minecraft:worldborder

vestal jasper
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Proxi dodging my statement like usual smh my head

limber knotBOT
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vanilla's worldborder?

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🥺

fervent kite
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i cant set them seperately can i?

vestal jasper
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It's per world buzz

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Like most if not all vanilla stuff

mental meadow
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uwu

twin lagoon
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uwu

mental meadow
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michael!!!

fervent kite
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if i set the overworld to x can i set the nether to something other than x?

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or do they have to be the same value?

limber knotBOT
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that's what "per world" means, yes

twin lagoon
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@mental meadow weebHuggu

fervent kite
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ok so i just enter each dimension and set the wb?

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or is there a command to set in different dimensions

mental meadow
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/execute in <worldname> run worldborder ...

fervent kite
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ok thanks a lot

vestal jasper
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@twin lagoon I don't meet the time requirement

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48 days since first commit, and it needs to be 3 months old or older.

marble lark
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Proxi dodging my statement like usual smh my head
xd "shake my head my head"

vestal jasper
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Yes that's the joke congrats you got it

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toxic cat man

vestal jasper
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Hello make up ur mind @minor badge

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I can't be too nice and toxic

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why arent u calling him dumb 😔

toxic cat man
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shut up idiot

vestal jasper
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Fuck you

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wtf

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toxic???

quasi valley
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wow modaboos

marble lark
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O.o

vestal jasper
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Ur toxic

quasi valley
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ban proxi

vestal jasper
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Yeah she's being rude to me

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I'm just defending myself

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twin lagoon
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knenyboos

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Papa OwO

quasi valley
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ABOOSE

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😳

vestal jasper
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Oh sorry I forgot proxi is the real Papa here

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i am mami 😠

vestal jasper
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Mommy proxi uwu

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🥺

vestal jasper
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Knen ur just jealous

latent valve
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Vic just a dumber version of cat VicDumCat

vestal jasper
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Ok weeb

heady spear
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i got cheddar popcorn seasoning n this is a game changer my dudes

vestal jasper
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It is Sunday my dudes

quasi valley
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yes, the day before monday

vestal jasper
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No

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it is monday eve my dudes

vestal jasper
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Yes

latent valve
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It sun day but it raining

heady spear
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I don't believe in Mondays

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they're not included in my religion

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whats that? stupidity?

vestal jasper
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I work retail, the day of the week means very little to me

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git fukd

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sundays are always day off for retail here

vestal jasper
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I just had Saturday off for the first time in 3 months

heady spear
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everything closes at 3pm on Sundays here lol

warm anchor
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but that's also when most shipments arrive, so it's restocking day

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fucking awful

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I worked in a convenience store and Sunday afternoons + Monday mornings were the worst

vestal jasper
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We get 1 or 2 shipments every other day. During store hours. We process them after closing however.

hoary bronze
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heard there is a way to enable anti-xray inpaper can someone direct me on proper process...could not find in the config files

twin lagoon
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see pins for anti-xray recommendations

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hoary bronze
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thank you so much

glad narwhal
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You should write a short description about your plugin in the readme, otherwise nobody is going to know what it's supposed to do

glad narwhal
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It's api in readme

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plugin description on spigotmc

limber knotBOT
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well that's not linked anyways ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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and a short description doesn't hurt

glad narwhal
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ok

zealous stag
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@wheat quarry alright then, how do ya do it?

limber knotBOT
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don't ping me discord account, mate

zealous stag
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did I ping the wrong account

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lmao

glad narwhal
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well... hows my code?

limber knotBOT
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runs

zealous stag
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o.O

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My life is a lie

void void
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help phoenix is userbot ban

worn ember
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lmao i'm actually so done with MS. I have a final tomorrow using a windows ERP package. I tried to duplicate a database so i could redo my assignements, their sql server shit itself when doing so and now its stuck and cant reconnect to the SQL server pepega

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and theres literally nothing i can do cuz i obviously dont have access to the backend

topaz mortar
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My bad that you decided to dive into MS space.

worn ember
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more like my college's bad

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its all MS

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and its always shit

thorny rivet
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Which forum/thing would you recommend for finding sane people for a team?

worn ember
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what kind of team

thorny rivet
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And regarding MS, I sent them two "tickets", one being a "critical" security hole in WSL and they never replied lol

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should've exposed that

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For a Minecraft Server project, mostly looking for builders and other creative people

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I'd start with german forums, as the rest of the team is german, but idk

worn ember
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hmm i think finding good buildteams are one of the hardest to find tbh

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kinda looking for one aswel

limber knotBOT
worn ember
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otherwise your regular minecraft forums i suppose

thorny rivet
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If possible, I dream of having a sound designer/guy and someone good at blockbench as well, but I guess that's a pipe dream

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And yeah, ms.eu would've been where I'll post

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okay it appears my ISP took themselves like 2hrs downtime to add IPv6 support to all their customers at once

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so i guess i'm now able to use ipv6

mental meadow
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at least something

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@twin lagoon halp

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i need halp not gonna read ur answer but halp

twin lagoon
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proxi uwu

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whats that i am illiterate

pearl slate
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Does anyone know if it's possible to change the 0, 0 cordinates in the a world like to make a place thats not 0, 0 and make it be viewd as 0, 0

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Like make the cords 8000 8000 to be 0, 0

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thats a example

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eee

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in what regard? world border?

olive marlin
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I believe you can relocate existing chunks, idk how it relates to new chunks though.

void void
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i bet some madlad has written coordinate obfuscator

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you're technically looking for something like that

pearl slate
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ok so my server spawn is really far from 0,0 and i would like to make the "Spawn" 0, 0 so it would be the center of the world and it would be displayed as 0, 0 in F3 ect

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yeah that

void void
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coincidentally i had a project like that :^)

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didn't get very far

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because it was quite pointless

heady spear
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Lol WHO is praising the Swedish corona strategy now

void void
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culling the weak?

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ye based

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chad move

heady spear
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Sweden is going against the new European trend of increasing cases

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So

pearl slate
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I'm bad at finding stuff so could anyone help me find a plugin like that

void void
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i mean if there aren't any people to catch corona then of course cases go down

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:^)

heady spear
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Yeah cuz Sweden had a population of 5800 ppl

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Ur very right

spice finch
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i know i'm right

heady spear
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“Even”

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Mc-market is the perfect place for shady assholes

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I’d be more surprised if he wasn’t there

void void
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city is your hyperverse on mcmarket yet

pearl slate
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@void void Can you help me find a somekind of cordinate plugin

heady spear
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No one has time to work on that shit

void void
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no

heady spear
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Hyperverse will go rip as I can’t afford to work on it lol

mental meadow
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I'm getting attacked 😦

pearl slate
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ok

heady spear
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Who is attacking aurora

mental meadow
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people in paperhelp 😦

void void
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wdym attacked

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how do you see that as an attack

mental meadow
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my work and my friend :/

heady spear
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Bri is my friend to, which is why I choose to distance myself from all discussions regarding songoda plugins 👀

void void
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your friend has done shady stuff and licensing is questionable, your work and your friend is just being called out

heady spear
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I saw you pushed all of them to github tho

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That’s neat

void void
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that's all

heady spear
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Ur face is shady

latent valve
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City fuk u it sunday

mental meadow
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we have all done shitty stuff in the past

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But people can change, and not allowing people to change and get better is even worse imo

heady spear
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Ok but they haven’t published my course page so I don’t have my schedule so then I don’t have uni tomorrow

void void
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changing does not free you from the past guilt/wrongdoings

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i don't see songoda as a person as bad; it's rather the products her brand makes

heady spear
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So suck my dick boi

latent valve
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Ok fuck u

twin lagoon
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songoda pepegahammer

latent valve
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I hate going up early

void void
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changing does not turn magically a new clean page in your book

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i'm sure i'm not alone in that; songoda plugins are in general just trash. i don't know songoda personally anymore, so i can't speak much on that

heady spear
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Well quit school and become a stripper

latent valve
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Like u?

heady spear
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I wish I was a stripper

mental meadow
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yeah but the plugins are also improving

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Like FAWE

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not as awful as with 1.12 anymore

void void
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no it's the opposite

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fawe cfi is gone

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smh my head

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until the people coming in here asking for help when songoda plugins crash their servers, i'll call every single songoda plugin trash as that's all i've known from them

golden gust
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Her recent episode of "not being a bad person" literally happened this year...

twin lagoon
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^

mental meadow
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the paypal stuff? hardly her fault tbh

golden gust
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Not that...

twin lagoon
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stifflered x songoda KEKWAYAYA

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which episode of songoda are we talking about

quasi valley
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the anime one

golden gust
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I'm all for people having the means to redeem themselves and that lot, but, like, you can't just say "but she's getting better", when every time she finds her way to interact with the community shit ends up flying sideways

heady spear
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Stiffler did end up spreading bs claims that he later retracted so it’s not as if he’s a saint either

twin lagoon
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most of it still counts though

golden gust
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implying anybody in this community is a saint

twin lagoon
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lol

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im a saint KAPPA

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what's your dark secret cat xx

golden gust
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BS

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Oh god

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I'll tell you proxi, but, I'd have to kill you

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hot

golden gust
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not as hot as afterwards

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wait

latent valve
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Look, I don’t agree with her way of handling things all of the time but I genuinely believe she’s a good person. That said, this community has always been quite quick to form hate mobs against people and when that mob comes at full force against you, you don’t always react in the best way

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yeaaaaaah

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no

heady spear
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The quality of the plugins is not something I can vouch for tho, only time I’ve checked through the source code is when one of them broke plotsquared

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Mentioning plotsquared tho, it’s not like I’m in a position to criticize anyone for their code 😂

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city-sama 🥺

golden gust
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I mean, I'm not saying that the community is right in the briagadier against her, but, like, it's pretty hard to contain that stuff when every form of interaction outside of 1:1 stuff generally goes sideways

mental meadow
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idk she literally saved my by giving me a job even tho other people would have been more qualified

golden gust
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Like, in DMs she seemed okay, she defo has issues, but, like 🤷‍♂️

heady spear
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She helped me when I really needed it to and she has been good to me for the last couple of years and I appreciate that ^^

quasi valley
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bad people can also occasionally do good smolEyes

heady spear
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And good people can do bad things

golden gust
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Fuck you city

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I'll find you and... erm... PG channel, nvm

mental meadow
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.kneny kneny you mean good things like that?

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woven otter
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Hitler gave jobs to many people too right KEK

quasi valley
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yes, orora 100% bad person confirmed >:(

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weewoo_red hilter brought up weewoo_red

golden gust
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Just another day in paper

mental meadow
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a yes

quasi valley
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good old hilter

mental meadow
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famous austrian dictator hilter

restive thicket
mental meadow
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founded the hotel chain Hilton

heady spear
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Though I do believe that songoda as an organization and songoda as a person should separate, because it all becomes way too personal

mental meadow
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yeah shes doing that^^ made her own twitter and stuff

golden gust
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It's self representation

heady spear
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wasn’t hitler pro animal rights

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Good guy that one was

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thank god he wasn't pro city rights

limber knotBOT
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should rename the org tbh, the name is pretty tainted by now lol

golden gust
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if you run around threating legal action on people from the company you run, it's gonna shine on your company AND you

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This is not fucking rocket science

heady spear
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Bro I’m a blue eyed blonde dude

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gay

heady spear
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Ur gay wtf

cedar spade
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inb4 organisation rebrands as adognos

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no u

heady spear
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Nope

limpid comet
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adongos?

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a donger

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👀

heady spear
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Doesn’t matter how many times u ask, I’m not gonna sell u a signed picture of my gonads

golden gust
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If she wants to try to redeem herself, she needs to actually interact with the community in a positive manner, put her hand up and say she fucked up and take steps to address it

heady spear
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So stop asking

golden gust
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Not have yet another year of "but she's getting better" before she throws out another DMCA or some BS

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cat pls get better

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u r so tosic

golden gust
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fuck you u hoe

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um wtf

void void
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wow

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declaw the cat

heady spear
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Proxi is indeed a hoe

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This is a fact

void void
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ur a hoe

heady spear
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No

void void
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a netherite hoe tho 😳

heady spear
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That is an alternative fact

golden gust
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ur hoes a hoe

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ill show u how big of a hoe i can be cat x

heady spear
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Don’t fall for it, she’s Norwegian

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Norwegian hoes are never good for u

golden gust
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netherite hoe
Ask any female and that's all men

quasi valley
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yeah norway suks

limber knotBOT
quasi valley
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we can't even go there from ger rn

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get embeds, phoenix

heady spear
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Phoenix is also a hoe fwiw

mental meadow
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phoenix do you have some more compression for that pic?

heady spear
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A dirty wooden one

limber knotBOT
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blame google

latent valve
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nice jpeg

latent valve
limber knotBOT
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enchanted diamond hoe 😓

mental meadow
latent valve
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got only enchanted_diamond_hoe n enchanted_netherite_hoe

woven otter
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please no hoes

latent valve
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please no duck

quasi valley
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no mute ducks*

woven otter
latent valve
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🙀

heady spear
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@woven otter u still haven't shared ur super sexy man voice with me

woven otter
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how do you know it's sexy

quasi valley
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I'll say it's horrible unless you prove us wrong

golden gust
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It's city

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He'd hump a broom if it could speak

void void
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lul

latent valve
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City a simp

woven otter
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ewww a simp

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want to see my feet city?

quasi valley
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duck feet are pretty hot

twin lagoon
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hello kneny

quasi valley
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I will eat you michael

twin lagoon
woven otter
twin lagoon
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@twin lagoon michael 🥺🥺

void void
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knemy you poor no nitro

twin lagoon
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🥺

quasi valley
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yes

twin lagoon
void void
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want a gift

quasi valley
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no

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imagine paying discord

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:D

void void
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yes open dms you bitch

quasi valley
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don't you dare

twin lagoon
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wtf kenny you unfriended me from discord

quasi valley
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yes

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and I have no regrets

twin lagoon
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Kenny it appears that you are not my friend on Discord yet

quasi valley
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mikro has given me eternal damnation

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but also nice emotes for a month

twin lagoon
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kenny!

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that means you can use knenypat now

quasi valley
twin lagoon
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you did it!

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i'm so proud PepeHands

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quasi valley
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I can finally use kappa omg

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the sass can continue

void void
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see

fervent kite
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im hosting a server and plan to stay here in this community for a while, what kind of roles could i have here?

twin lagoon
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none

void void
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so much fun of spare 5$ i had

quasi valley
muted portal
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Nothing @fervent kite

twin lagoon
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one simply does not ask for roles

fervent kite
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ok

twin lagoon
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besides purr and some others but that's not something we talk about

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you can pay for nitro booster role ig

twin lagoon
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oh that is true

quasi valley
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imagine paying discord

fervent kite
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i do plan to donate

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also test build notif role

void void
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lolol

fervent kite
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you guys are awesome

muted portal
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Yeah you can get test build notifications for free

fervent kite
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i dont think ill test

void void
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honestly why isn't that command in channel header yet

fervent kite
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unless you need extra testers

void void
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extra testers are always needed

fervent kite
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then id be willing to contribute

void void
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a l w a y s

fervent kite
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im hosting from my personal pc on windows

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would that be a good place to test from?

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well, as of now, until my community grows

muted portal
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You can test from anywhere

fervent kite
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ill move to a dedi when we get rolling

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what does testing entail?

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just downloading and running the latest version of paper?

muted portal
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If you have a good pc and good internet hosting on your own pc is fine. Testing is basically running a version that might have some stuff wrong with it, and telling them what’s wrong with it.

fervent kite
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would i run it on my main server?

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or in a single player

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thats the idea yes

muted portal
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Paper isn’t for single player

fervent kite
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ok

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right

muted portal
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It’s for servers

fervent kite
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and if something is acting weird i could go back to a safe version?

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every normal build is a testing version, but some we just arent sure are stable, sane, or functional at all, so they become testing versions

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yes

fervent kite
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and just tell you when something like that happens?

minor badge
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yep

fervent kite
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ok

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ive been building every other day the latest version on my main

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so ill just keep you posted if i notice anything

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and post about it in test builds#

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would you rather have me nitro boost or donate to a different place?

twin lagoon
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donate

fervent kite
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.g donate

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation.html -- Donate Now: Online Donations | American Red Cross: "To donate by check or to a specific cause, please complete this donation form by printing and mailing to: American Red Cross PO Box 37839. Boone, IA..."

quasi valley
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nitro boosts are just donating to discord smolEyes

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up to you tbh, but usually donations

twin lagoon
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contains a donate button

fervent kite
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ok

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i know that place

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thank you all for ur help

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ill be around 🙂

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another note

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i came in here recently asking about some performance issues

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i had followed the guide

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but was experiencing issue

twin lagoon
fervent kite
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turns out my pc was set to power saver

twin lagoon
#

o

void void
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lol

muted portal
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What specs are you running on?

void void
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it do be like that sometimes

twin lagoon
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yeah that's windows for you

muted portal
fervent kite
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now my tick is running at 20%

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so were good

twin lagoon
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yeah that's not how it works

void void
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epic

fervent kite
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well performance is up

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is what i mean

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much better

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i was only using 1.3 ghrz

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of my 3.7/4.5 turbo

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wanted to share that with you all

limpid comet
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lol

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and I checked the car store, and what do you see

twin lagoon
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what do you mean i can't hold players on my xeon e5

limpid comet
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creeper car creeper car

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I'm 1/5th of the way to creeper car

fervent kite
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michael what do you mean by hold players?

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they would disconnect?

twin lagoon
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@limpid comet how much for the creeper car

limpid comet
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50k caps

fervent kite
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im having an issue with one of my players having this message

twin lagoon
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wtf is cap

fervent kite
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was kicked due to keepalive timeout!

limpid comet
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every race your wpm is logged, and from what I can tell, you get 1 cap per wpm

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so say if you can hit 100 wpm per race, you need 500 races

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i can hit 120-130ish so hopefully I get there a bit sooner

twin lagoon
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holy shit this typing site is cancer

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lmao

fervent kite
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what are the point of xeons in minecraft?

twin lagoon
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performance

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xeon e5's are often seen at shitty summer hosts

fervent kite
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good single core performance?

twin lagoon
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so they're just memes now

fervent kite
#

ok

limpid comet
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what's wrong with typrx?

fervent kite
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right

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i have a xeon actually

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w2135

twin lagoon
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that sounds bad

golden gust
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xeons in minecraft

fervent kite
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is there something i can do special?

golden gust
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lol

fervent kite
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or something i should be doing

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300

golden gust
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There are some higher spec e5s which iirc is basically just i7/i9 or something CPUs

twin lagoon
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E-22xx series is mad

fervent kite
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yes

twin lagoon
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best xeons you can get for mc

golden gust
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But, in general, they're high core count chips which are amazing for web servers where you have the ability to use a mega fuckton of cores

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for MC, they're basically useless bar shared hosts tryna get a few dozen servers on there

fervent kite
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so i could run several servers at the same time?

golden gust
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Like, you can get decent servers on them, but, only really spec'd for "me and a bunch of mates" type stuff

fervent kite
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the e5s?

golden gust
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Basically, if you're aiming for a 50+ player server, steer away

fervent kite
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ok, so nothing really special i could be doing with my xeon, just use the optimize guide

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zcat, ur talking about the e5?

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for 50+

twin lagoon
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hell for 30+ players

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steer away of old e5's

fervent kite
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do you think i could run 50+ on mine?

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smp

twin lagoon
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w-2135 seems pretty bad

fervent kite
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3.7/ 4.5 turbo 6 core 12 thread

twin lagoon
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clock speed isn't an important comparison

fervent kite
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zbk, what did you mean 10 for 1000?

golden gust
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depends on the CPU, I ain't touched an e5 in years

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Basically, that's the line of CPUs that shared hosts often tend to float around

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expect shared host level performance

fervent kite
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when i move to a dedi what should i look for, for maximum performance?

twin lagoon
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a high-end desktop/workstation processor

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or a xeon e-2xxx series processor

muted portal
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Most rgb

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Everyone knows rgb makes your pc run faster, even if you can’t see it (like with a server).

golden gust
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The games heavy as shit and eats a core like it's a brit seeing a yorkshire pudding and a gravy boat

fervent kite
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zbk im not following

golden gust
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The thing is that you have to consider hardware investment

fervent kite
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80 month

twin lagoon
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The second a dedi goes over $80/m a colo starts making sense

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i'd disagree

fervent kite
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whats colo?

twin lagoon
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long-term yeah it's cheaper but you do get the flexibility of renting servers

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i'd never go for colocation & buy my own hardware for minecraft

golden gust
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80/m colo gets you onto the point where you're basically on par with OVH who'll let you roll through newer hardware without having to deal with stuff like hardware upgrades and "oh shit, the SSD is going to die", etc

twin lagoon
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yeah that too

fervent kite
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ok so the argument is at some point, it could make sense to buy ur own hardware

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?

golden gust
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For most server owners, no

twin lagoon
#

no

fervent kite
#

ok

twin lagoon
#

hypixel doesn't even buy their own hardware

golden gust
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Colo only gets cheap enough to justify it when the cash to build a box and throw it in the DC outweights the cost of dealing with companies like OVH, etc

twin lagoon
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or well,maybe lease to own

golden gust
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buying your own hardware just doesn't make much sense when you consider how much hardware actually costs and refreshes

fervent kite
#

what would be the threshold of renting a dedi?

golden gust
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Like, if you don't care in 5 years time that your hardware is 5 years old, sure, go for it; But, otherwise, 🤷‍♂️

fervent kite
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ok

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and ill know when that is when?

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looking at my timings?

twin lagoon
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it's time to use a dedicated server when you have the money to

golden gust
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CPU usage is BS

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load counters are BS

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There is no sane metric to how "loaded" a CPU is

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Not really

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100% means fuck all

twin lagoon
void void
#

what

golden gust
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*wat

mental meadow
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when you run out of GHz you need more overclock 😄

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I had to clock back down from 4.6 to 4.5 because it suddenly got unstable :c

golden gust
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Plz

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I hit 1000 load on a 4 core CPU

mighty storm
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Why was I pinged 3 times about the piglin dupe being a problem still

limber knotBOT
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@mighty storm [Auto] The duplication bug with baby Piglins that is currently doing its rounds on YouTube does not, and never has, worked on Paper.

mighty storm
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Yeah that's what you told them

mental meadow
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chew? is the new piglin dupe bug in paper`?

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pls tell me no

fervent kite
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that was literally my first message in here

mental meadow
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pls tell me yes

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i need that dupe

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its important for my anarchy server

fervent kite
#

zbk, so do you think ill be able to go 50+ ?

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ur not so confident?

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ill do my best

next wind
#

There's a person on the luckperms server complaining that people won't give him a botting program or website to test his antibot

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Why are people on the luckperms server so wack

fervent kite
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zbk, what would be the main difference between specs that could let you get to 50+ ?

mental meadow
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because bungeeperms is clearly superior :p

fervent kite
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bad question probably

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@mighty storm halp poglin doop

next wind
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Plugins

fervent kite
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ok

waxen panther
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@mighty storm halp poglin doop
@minor badge

mighty storm
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damn doubleping

minor badge
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@minor badge
@waxen panther

waxen panther
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@waxen panther
@waxen panther

fervent kite
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im on an nvme m.2, 3.7/ 4.5 ghrz xeon w, guide optimized, chunky filled world border set, paper 1.16.2

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fish ai lol

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windows

cedar spade
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@mighty storm go to sleep

fervent kite
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personal pc host

next wind
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Oh that's a nice pc

fervent kite
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100down, 15 up

latent valve
next wind
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I thought you were using a server and I was confused about the windows

fervent kite
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no home machine

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only chunky plug in

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smp

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how far do you think a system like that could take us?

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is there an impending doom at around 30 players?

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non aggressive player base, mostly stay at home no redstone for the most part, some mob farms

next wind
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As long as your not doing any resource intensive work on that pc you should be pretty good

fervent kite
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do you think i could go 100?

twin lagoon
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depends on your playerbase

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depends on your server

fervent kite
#

michael i posted my specs above

twin lagoon
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it's not just your specs

fervent kite
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zbk i posted my specs

twin lagoon
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it's not just your specs

fervent kite
#

yeah

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i tried to give insight on more as well

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so its literally just a matter of pushing it to see how far it goes?

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could you say, 'there no way you get past blank'?

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is it even possible to get 100+?

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200?

twin lagoon
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if you know what you're doing yes

fervent kite
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im just really in the dark

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ok

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thats nice to know

twin lagoon
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people struggle with getting 50 players at 20tps

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that should give you an indication

fervent kite
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alright

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once ive optimized, and filled the border

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what would be some advanced tips?

timber shuttle
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does anyone know any cheap vps hosting? (I'm not concerned with performance, I want to do mysql to have dynmap there)

twin lagoon
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people who can hold 100 players without limiting the game too much on an SMP, on 1.16, are likely running high-end dedicated servers

fervent kite
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ok

twin lagoon
#

rely on efficient custom plugins

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and modified server software

next wind
#

does anyone know any cheap vps hosting? (I'm not concerned with performance, I want to do mysql to have dynmap there)
@timber shuttle hetzner

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@twin lagoon rely on me bb

twin lagoon
#

proxi your plugin had a memory leak

minor badge
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😔

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it wasnt a leak, just terribly bad at allocating

twin lagoon
fervent kite
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and you fixed it right?

minor badge
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yes lol

fervent kite
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ok then

twin lagoon
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well if you get paid money it better gets fixed

minor badge
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within like an hour of michael reporting it to me

twin lagoon
fervent kite
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thats customer support

minor badge
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no thats being a sane developer

twin lagoon
#

yeah that's just a basic expectancy

minor badge
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if i want more money, i needa do well for the money i get to begin with

fervent kite
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did you expect it to be perfect?

twin lagoon
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yes

fervent kite
#

is that basic expectency?

twin lagoon
#

that's what people pay money for in the end

minor badge
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expecting it to not have that issue is at least within reason lol

twin lagoon
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i don't pay $200 for a plugin that misses 3 features or has horrible performance

minor badge
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kinda surprised we never noticed it in prod though lol

fervent kite
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alright well proxi ill hyu when i need one too

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if thats cool

minor badge
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sure lol

twin lagoon
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expect to pay MUCH

minor badge
#

🥺

fervent kite
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michael 5 stars review?

minor badge
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michael is expensive a night..

twin lagoon
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i mean

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the plugin provided works

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issues fixed swiftly

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pricing seems reasonable, no complaints from me

fervent kite
#

so michael you said efficient custom plugins and modified server software

twin lagoon
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yeah good luck getting 100 players on an SMP on paper

minor badge
#

michael halp im updating my windows install and its taking a long ass time 😔

twin lagoon
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begin game it's possible

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as soon as your map is "mature" and there's farms etc on it

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rip

fervent kite
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i understand

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who would i go to for modified server software?

twin lagoon
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no one

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they cost thousands

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there's no one sane doing it (yet™️)

void void
#

you mean craftimize

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runs

twin lagoon
#

mason KEKWAYAYA

void void
minor badge
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we push all perf improvements that are sane-ish to paper anyways ^^

twin lagoon
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there will be a craftimize alternative soon

void void
#

made by who

twin lagoon
#

not mason

heady spear
#

@minor badge bans when

void void
#

made by michael?

twin lagoon
#

someone has to take over somehow

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no

void void
#

tf

minor badge
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@heady spear thats what the pipeline is for 😳

heady spear
#

oooo

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hot<3333

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dicks out for proxi's pipeline tbh

minor badge
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it wont support brigadier upon initial release doe

twin lagoon
minor badge
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gotta look into how tf i can add custom arg types to it

heady spear
#

I don't really care about brig

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I just don't wanna have to do punishments on the servers 😛

minor badge
#

im currently waiting on windows to do its thing, then ill play a game of bf4 if the servers are up, then perhaps more bans

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velocity doe?

heady spear
#

proxi I want a new web project so I have a reason to use vue, I might make a web interface for ur pl0gin

minor badge
#

EA servers are up again, sorry city

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woa

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i could add a rest api option i guess

heady spear
#

I've been wanting an excuse to play around with vue/nuxt for ages

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well tbf all I really need is the database

minor badge
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ive been meaning to try them for birbfetcher

heady spear
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I make terribly ugly user interfaces so that'll be fun

topaz mortar
#

City develop a CustomBiome configurator

heady spear
#

I only work on stuff that I can use personally

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plotsquared being the exception, but I can use the money

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saying that I need to test out the v6 API

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dangit, unless someone else does it for me

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👀

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hint hint nudge nudge

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plotsquared lol, ysl should tots update his shit for v6 😛

topaz mortar
#

I only make stuff that does challenge me.

heady spear
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using plotsquared is very challenging

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Okay what if I return all plots as a subset of R^8 so you need to project them onto the game world

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then it'll be slightly harder

topaz mortar
#

plotsquared lol, ysl should tots update his shit for v6 😛
City what shit?

heady spear
#

idk what shit you have

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but you're one of 5 people that I've talked about the API with

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the other ones being redstone server owners so they don't matter to me

#

barely human

topaz mortar
#

Meh

heady spear
#

im not typing im cleaning my keyboard

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as long as my piston doors work

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then I'm happy

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if they don't then fuck mc

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I used to have a door fetish

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my down button has some dust under it so it barely registers

#

yay

topaz mortar
#

Backdoor fetish?

dapper nacelle
#

what

heady spear
#

stop being so horny

dapper nacelle
#

off to horny jail

heady spear
#

get yourself a twink

topaz mortar
#

City4Twink

void void
#

city2twerk

dapper nacelle
#

somehow my GraphQL fits my usecase even tho the library that I am using is broken af

void void
#

what library

dapper nacelle
#

api platform

void void
#

apollo graphql is dope if you're on nodejs

dapper nacelle
#

I am on meth

#

sorry

void void
#

understandable, have a nice day

heady spear
#

ysl ill put out if u test out the new api

dapper nacelle
#

nodejs would work in my case but for the files I have on some of my endpoints I'd prefer using php

heady spear
#

I used to compete in judo n am very flexible

dapper nacelle
#

weird flex but ok

heady spear
#

¨

#

¨

#

lol keyboard clean now

#

macbooks have this fun thing where if they're turned off, any button will turn them on

#

so the power button is quite useless

topaz mortar
#

Have one that hasn't this issue. 😄

heady spear
#

it's very annoying when you wanna turn it off to clean the keyboard

#

because it turns on 😄

#

ok it no longer smells like smoked salmon

#

so that's good

topaz mortar
#

Guess Retina or later?

heady spear
#

2019 model ye

#

I was one out of 5 people that bought the 2019 13" mbp

topaz mortar
#

Early/Mid or late 16"?

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oh my bad. 😄

heady spear
#

got the 13" bcuz of uni, 15 is a bit too large to carry around imo

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so this is the perfect laptop for me 😄

#

big enough to get shit done, watch movies in bed etc

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n then I have my desktop at home

topaz mortar
#

I decided to get the 15" 8 years ago.

heady spear
#

tho the 16" would be wayyyyyy better for programming

#

but I don't like programming on laptops anyway

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feels awkward 😛

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tho ive completed most uni assignments on the 13" so 🤷‍♂️

topaz mortar
#

I like it. So next one 16"

heady spear
#

ye I'll get the 16" too as this one limits productivity a little

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but whatever, it was a LOT cheaper than the 15"

topaz mortar
#

My 8 year old shut's down when doing a little more stuff. Prolly gets to hot.

heady spear
#

if this was my only computer I sure as hell wouldn't be satisfied with the 13" screen tho

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but my desktop is like 95 times more powerful anyway

topaz mortar
#

My desktop is not running 95% of the time. Hopefully Big NAVI is changing that. Hackintoshing again then.

heady spear
#

I looooooove Ubuntu budgie for productivity

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Everything just feels nice

#

So I use my desktop for all my work

topaz mortar
#

Ah, ok.

heady spear
#

I think I wanna go back to dual monitors tho

#

Ditched that for a while and I find myself wanting it more and more

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Especially as I do a lot more graphics and photo shit than I used to

topaz mortar
#

Main pc powers a triple monitor setup. Hopefully the MBP 16" can handle 1x4K + 2x1080p

heady spear
#

I use a single 27” rn and I find it less distracting

#

But having to switch between windows is getting annoying

#

I think I wanna do 2x27”, where one is vertical

topaz mortar
#

2x25 1x27

#

Yeah, good for programming.

heady spear
#

thing is tho, I'd need one of those 99.9% adobe colour space monitors n they aren't cheap

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4K HDR is expensive enough as is D:

topaz mortar
#

I just have a 4k 10 bit monitor. Need to lookup the color space.

heady spear
#

or well, I don't need one, but if I'm gonna upgrade my current one then I'd want to use it for my photography shit too

topaz mortar
#

Yeah

viral hornet
twin lagoon
#

camm 🥺 hypershy

dim shadow
#

do you guys know of a place i can go to ask for non-technical help for my server? i'm trying to improve the first-time player experience, i think something about my spawn is offputting to new players but i can't tell what... maybe a discord or a subreddit or something?

twin lagoon
#

servercraft

quasi valley
#

admincraft kappa

twin lagoon
#

admincraft KEKWAYAYA

quasi valley
#

feels good using kappa again

dim shadow
#

ahh ty michael, i'll join there, and do you mean admincraft on reddit?

twin lagoon
#

no avoid admincraft

quasi valley
#

servercraft > admincraft

twin lagoon
#

the subreddit & discord owner is ignorant

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killed the entire community

#

servercraft is admincraft v2

dim shadow
#

aw damn lol

#

i been posting on admincraft reddit but i didn't think my question would be appropriate there

limber knotBOT
#

spigot has a "rate my server" forum section

#

also seeing as this is an offtopic channel you could always ask here ;)

quasi valley
#

my prevote is 0/10 not upsidedown

twin lagoon
#

reminds me of turtle ai

#

used to be cancer

quasi valley
#

no u

viral hornet
#

kenny no

#

rude

quasi valley
#

hello coumm

#

how are you

finite wave
#

coomer

viral hornet
#

Im good kenny

#

but it's late and I can't fuCKiNg sleeEEEP reee

quasi valley
#

count michaels

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and slep slep

twin lagoon
void void
quasi valley
#

are you just gonna throw this in here every day now

void void
#

no

#

im serious tho

quasi valley
#

cause it already wasn't funny the 100th time someone sent that stupid image snowy

void void
#

xd

#

fair enough

viral hornet
#

I find it hilarious kenny wtf u on about

void void
#

to be honest

#

I fell for it the first time

#

almost hit the ''bug'' on my screen

quasi valley
#

coumm you're a very special person

viral hornet
#

thanks kenny 🥺

#

Im gonna frame this forever 🥰

twin lagoon
#

camm!

limber knotBOT
#

not a gif of a fly

viral hornet
#

michael!!!!!!!1!!1!1!

limber knotBOT
#

light mode

twin lagoon
#

@quasi valley It appears that we're not befriended on Discord yet

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I believe that this is a mistake

viral hornet
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Woah kenny

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You aren't friends with michael?!

quasi valley
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very unfortunate michael, very unfortunate

viral hornet
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Also no light mode, I use dark mode.

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Just changed it to light for that screenie for extra special-ness

twin lagoon
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kenny hates me for no reason

viral hornet
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probably because of

twin lagoon
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what do you mean knenypat

viral hornet
indigo bone
twin lagoon
viral hornet
twin lagoon
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camm 🥺

viral hornet
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michael 🥺

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come cuddle

restive harbor
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hi guys, is discord nitro boost only on month?

viral hornet
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Yeah

restive harbor
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ohh thx

indigo bone
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🙂

viral hornet
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I think you can buy like a year of nitro? Which is cheaper in the long run

quasi valley
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but stupid nonetheless

viral hornet
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And you get those boosts with it (and cheaper boosts, too)

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NO KENNY

quasi valley
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PAYING

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DISCORD

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IS

indigo bone
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i bought the boost btw 😉

quasi valley
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PEPEGA

viral hornet
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lmao but

quasi valley
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mikropp gifted 😂

viral hornet
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SUUUREEEE

void void
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i did

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camm u condom

indigo bone
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now paper is level 2

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do some fun things now

quasi valley
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it's verified :>

viral hornet
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nou mikro

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buy my nitro

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🥺

void void
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proof

viral hornet
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LOL

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Kenny you better keep the subscription