@serene bolt I need help! What should I eat today? :D
#general
cosmic raft
merry talon
you wouldn't be able to do that because they interfere with eachother
tbh I don't think it gets much better than self checkout machines with EAS
like they have at my workplace
mental meadow
Yeah you'd need some sort of robot that could take each item individually from like a conveyor belt and scan each individually, but I don't think we have the technology for that yet
unreal quarry
oooooo, back to back hurricanes coming my way
topaz edge
hi guys
serene bolt
@serene bolt I need help! What should I eat today? :D
@cosmic raft food, of the food variety....
more specifically..... a food you enjoy! :D
cosmic raft
not helpful D:
cosmic raft
that website is so american like
zealous wedge
hm no locations in canada
vagrant niche
They don't operate on a 3rd world country.
zealous wedge
then why are they in the US?
olive garden
Sick burn mate
drowsy urchin
Is there any paper forks that still support 1.12.2?
potent fossil
doubtful
vestal jasper
Choco when will you love me
limber knotBOT
wow am rekt
void void
Is there like any keystrokes Forge mod for 1.16?
zealous wedge
probably
void void
I only find Fabric ones
serene bolt
help
void void
Block em
mighty storm
omg it's pure
void void
Wait spigot has dark mode?
olive garden
yes, for donators afaik
void void
oh dangit
zealous wedge
whee capitalism
serene bolt
there's unofficial stylish themes you can get but they look kinda jank
unreal quarry
theres also Dark Reader browser extension 😛
serene bolt
:O
zealous wedge
ah perfect
vestal jasper
Whats that accomplish
cosmic raft
Gets rid of the problem all together
potent fossil
lmao
mighty storm
sad i dont know what that does, i assume it redirects spigotmc.org to localhost
zealous wedge
iirc ya
static badge
@vagrant niche after food
vagrant niche
ping wen rdy :D
static badge
ye
waxen panther
vagrant niche
Dang, who eats for a whole hour
waxen panther
He already did
vagrant niche
amen
zealous wedge
nice at-everyone
ancient bolt
I like this one https://twitter.com/SpigotDrama/status/1297654852110049280
Twitter
mighty storm
unbelievable
sly fog
Twitter
narrow sun
Ngl hangar makes me rlly excited lol
potent fossil
Hello, just leaving this here. Thanks https://owo.whats-th.is/4MTwKDs.png
vagrant niche
That a portrait of you?
potent fossil
Yes
vagrant niche
cute
mighty storm
kim jong un is in ANOTHER coma?
vagrant niche
fake news
mighty storm
last time it was some vibe check
potent fossil
from what i can tell, this is only alleged by somebody in SK
so, high chance it's like last time
but, then again, maybe not
i suppose we shall see
zealous wedge
aww @potent fossil that's really nice
stiff raft
@mighty storm can I come in?
dire oasis
stiff raft
what 😳
dire oasis
um
dire oasis
he's in boys we did it 
stiff raft
Yes
dire oasis
what's it like in there 
dire oasis
nice
stiff raft
yeah
static badge
@vagrant niche
woven otter
👀
minor badge
leaf 🥺
static badge
wat
minor badge
hi leafsama 😳
minor badge
yes
mighty storm
damn i need at least 8
potent fossil
if i have an integral say with respect to x and there's some other var in there (say a), then I treat a as a constant when evaluating correct? (not multivariate yet, this is calc 2)
minor badge
bus leaves 7
mighty storm
yes, a is a constant
potent fossil
ty
mighty storm
just unknown
plush heart
Pterodactyl just went into release candidate stage for 1.0 
potent fossil
grats
mighty storm
oh youre the main big dude
potent fossil
been on 0.7 or something for ages lmao
waiting for more docker stuff which i think 1.x has so good stuff, ill check it out at some point
the biggest
d u d e
plush heart
the one who presses keys.
potent fossil
everyone get back, the key presser is here
plush heart
Started 1.0 with no mechanical keyboards, finished with... 8?
potent fossil
kek
mighty storm
ouch
potent fossil
oh wait thonk
ok chew i have this thing
int (a+bx^2)/(sqrt(3ax+bx^3)dx so a AND b are constants. so let's say ima sub out 3ax+bx^3, then when i differentiate that the a and b should still be there right
cuz they constant
that's gonna cancel that numerator shit yea
maybe
limpid comet
What's the software people use to host their own maven repos? I forget
potent fossil
there are a few but most popular is probably sonatype nexus
unreal quarry
I just use that Jenkins plugin
potent fossil
that is yet another option
potent fossil
bonus with nexus for me is it does more than maven
so i can put docker images in there and mirror dockerhub
not necessary if all your docker stuff is public, but for private it's a nice alt to paying dockerhub
although you're paying for the machine to put nexus on ¯_(ツ)_/¯
limpid comet
That's pretty much my usecase, @potent fossil
Does nexus itself require a licensee?
License*
potent fossil
not the OSS version no
limpid comet
Perfect
mighty storm
Why does the blue fire in the banner look like diamond apples from tinkers construct
limpid comet
Right now my setup consists of Jenkins for building plugins, and docker images. When the docker image is built it's pushed to a private docker repo but I'd like to host the docker repo myself
minor badge
@mighty storm uwu
mighty storm
uwu
limpid comet
And then use maven so I can access a few plugin APIs without needing to download the latest build and compile it into the jar from the filesystem
limber knotBOT
uwu
mighty storm
Woah haven't seen you in a while
minor badge
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limpid comet
Is chew talking to chew
minor badge
nor has the bot :>
limpid comet
How meta can we go
mighty storm
Gotta up your game chew
limber knotBOT
idk just kinda got bored :/
minor badge
you ready for some prs today chew
potent fossil
yea should work for that usecase blue
mighty storm
I'm about to sleep in a little bit
potent fossil
lmao i fucking hate my classmates in literature
they all wait until the day it's due
literally all of them
i was wondering why my inbox was blowing the fuck up
its all of them submitting it an hour before due
mighty storm
got an email about an erro, went to check it, clientcrashed
must be a big error then
actually, wtf
potent fossil
error in?
mighty storm
there's an error on line 122, but that's not at all what's on line 122
oh wait
wrong issue, that was from 9 days ago
mighty storm
never will i ever reliably work with time
potent fossil
idk wat ur talkin bout
potent fossil
ah yes that shit sux
minor badge
bruh
utc -> own timezone is easy
utc in general is epic to know approximately what time it is somewhere else tbh
potent fossil
the only troubles i had with it were reliably detecting the client time
like the local timezone
after that its fine
and i was using JS on the browser,
minor badge
just time(0) smh .... . . . .
zealous wedge
UTC is the one true timezone
when i was on i3 i had a utc clock going lol
also uwu proxi
potent fossil
i would but im unreliable enough as it is, id forget about class or something and fail school and become homeless
zealous wedge
i'm just imagining people's reactions if i tried to schedule them in UTC
everyone would tell me to fuck off
mighty storm
see when it comes to databases, most of it is reliant on Time.now which is serverside
so when I query it, it's also UTC
umbral sorrel
What's a good "kits" plugin that works good with paper?
glad narwhal
There're tons of plugins like this
potent fossil
mighty storm
downloaded a 88 minute beatmap 😳
neon pier
java.util.tiktok 😳
mighty storm
wut
potent fossil
thats how its pronounced apparently
mighty storm
o
limber knotBOT
the shine axiom :p
potent fossil
sinh => shine, cosh => kosh, tanh => tanch, sech => shek, csch => coshek, coth => koth
i was just saying the normal name then -h for all of them lol
mighty storm
tanh => tanch is so cursed idk why
potent fossil
kek
mighty storm
😎
zealous wedge
:talent:
potent fossil
.wa expand 2^t(1+10^t)
limber knotBOT
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.wa how cool is simple
limber knotBOT
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golden gust
typical simple
potent fossil
2^t(1+10^t) should be 2^t+10^2t?
golden gust
tries to toot his own horn and ends up with a face full of... dirt, lets say dirt
mighty storm
.8ball bruh
limber knotBOT
shakes the magic 8 ball... Ask again later
mighty storm
ok
mighty storm
ah ha, you forgot to multiply 2 and 10 i think
mighty storm
if youre multiplying i believe yes
mighty storm
👀
potent fossil
potent fossil
why is the result 2^t+10^t not 2^t+10^(2t)
mighty storm
2^x(1+10^x) is 2^x + 20^x hmm
potent fossil
O_O
tight geyser
Hey guys. Been playing w paper a bit. Super nice and loving it thus far. Noticed a PR last year for pluggable storage using redis - anyone familiar w that?
potent fossil
many of us know what redis is
we dont know what PR you are referring to if or until you link it
tight geyser
potent fossil
per kashike
I am sorry, but this is not something we will be accepting.
mighty storm
Using the right tools for the job is important. Redis is a tool designed for caching data across a network. Storing data for world files for a server does not fit. It's like using a screwdriver to hammer in a nail.
tight geyser
Right. Wasn’t my goal or question 😂 my question is actually about other pluggable world storages
golden gust
Just, no
potent fossil
its unlikely they will merge that in, you would need to make your own fork.
merry talon
yeah wtf is that pr
potent fossil
no one would want to maintain that shit
mighty storm
mfw i cant even comment
golden gust
We opted that we have 0 interest in trying to expose a way for plugins to override data storage, very few would use it, nor is it worth the headaches
tight geyser
Ah, finally a useful comment
tight geyser
Don’t need screenshots and discord trolls showing me the convo. That is actually the asshole move
potent fossil
wtf
mighty storm
golden gust
wat
potent fossil
alright whatever
limpid comet
kinda monkaS
tight geyser
I came here to discuss core decisions on storage and ask a question. You all ounces
Pounced
golden gust
I mean, what I said was pretty much already on there
tight geyser
No
potent fossil
doesnt read issue, decides to come to chat to talk about it some more
actually you are the assholes
tight geyser
Nothing about a decision, nor plugins
vestal jasper
You could've read like the second comment in the PR, instead you chose to be lazy AND an asshole. Congrats dude.
neon pier
high tier convo
tight geyser
Omfg you guys are literally the definition of FOSS trolls
golden gust
I mean, the PR doesn't hard say no, nor are we outside of us can't seeing a viable way of doing that
mighty storm
my question is why reference redis if you dont intend to talk about it specificaly
vestal jasper
Says the troll
golden gust
Everybody, change your knickers
tight geyser
...
golden gust
Yours are all getting twisted
potent fossil
ima twist your knickers cat
vestal jasper
SiX is
potent fossil
this six guy
tight geyser
So, anyways, what I was going to ask was if anyone had discussed streaming data (events and/or storage) via Kafka/Nats/Kinesis
vestal jasper
Don’t need screenshots and discord trolls showing me the convo. That is actually the asshole move
https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/747337328040869898
@static badge
Yeah no I'm not answering your question if you're gonna be this hostile my dude.
potent fossil
i called him an asshole for disregarding everybody except the 'core team'
:)
which is uberasshole.jpg
vestal jasper
Anyway @static badge ur bronze and ur widow skill is bronze
tight geyser
Uh, I brought up an issue and you screenshot to the exact convo I linked. I get fuckin nobodies show up saying “how to code” all the time but I actually read the issue and have cloned the repo. I’m a software engineer by trade and not one to skip the manual
potent fossil
fucking nobodies
unique snow
What is a FOSS troll?
mighty storm
isn't foss that thing verizon has
vestal jasper
I'm trying real hard not to break Community Guidelines™️
tight geyser
Free open source software. Aka a bunch of moody Linus idolizing bitches
mighty storm
pure spotted
vestal jasper
And you're not making this easy on me.
mighty storm
uwu imminent
potent fossil
who the fuck is this guy
tight geyser
That gate keep communities
unique snow
Guessing you know, but it's free and open-source software.
potent fossil
jesus christ
vestal jasper
Ok yeah obvious troll. We all took the bait. 
mighty storm
((actually didn't know what foss meant thanks guys))
vestal jasper
But you are
mighty storm
let's start over, go back to the beginning, what was the original question again?
golden gust
everybody is acting as bad as one another
tight geyser
But hate scrubs who talk shit before someone has a chance to contribute
unique snow
I mean.. how is it gate keeping? People are welcome to fork and make their own edits.
tight geyser
So, yeah. How about reset?
mighty storm
ok you will not like my next question,, but, who is Linus
vestal jasper
Bug fixing time 🎉
unique snow
Well I'm for the most part trying to be constructive, tbh.
mighty storm
😢
golden gust
ur a git
unique snow
Linus Sebastian, he runs a YouTube channel called LTT. I think. 😉
unique snow
So we're not looking for Mr "x"?
zealous wedge
Linus is a misc dad at a highschool near my old school
tight geyser
Hi! I’m interested in streaming event and storage data to Nats or Kafka. Has anyone been down this road before? I saw a redis PR that didn’t get traction - wondering if there’s major adversity to other data stores
unique snow
runs
zealous wedge
actually I think his kids graduated
viral hornet
hello I was told to come here for new knickers
zealous wedge
tldr big diff, nobody who'd be maintaining it cares enough
potent fossil
already been declared that they are not interested in it
unique snow
golden gust
at the end of the day, there is no real drive in the community for X storage system bar the "MONGO IS WEBSCALE" team
tight geyser
Omfg the mongo guys are here too?
zealous wedge
it's been talked about as far back as 2012,but there's been no serious push for it
vestal jasper
mongodb is web scale tho
it doesn't use sql or joints, blatant improvement over the alternatives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
golden gust
personally, I love /dev/null because it offers better data assurances than mongo
runs
tight geyser
Lol
zealous wedge
mongo is still less terrifying than the thing people did where they'd run the server off a ramdisk
unique snow
MongoDB is fine for "webscale", however people take that as "LETS USE IT FOR EVERYTHING". People have to learn how to research what product fits their project.
potent fossil
u wot zml
golden gust
ramdisk was like king back in the day
tight geyser
Well no. Not the same thing. The goal is to get the events streaming real time (already doing this via nats) at a level lower than plugins
golden gust
hosting providers pretty much never had SSDs at that point
zealous wedge
ya, back before everyone had ssds
golden gust
So, ramdisk was like, OTT
vestal jasper
is /dev/null fast and web scale, cat?
golden gust
Yes
mighty storm
someone unsponsored me, down to 1 😢
vestal jasper
aight time to use it
golden gust
You even have the assurance of knowing that your data is going to be written to where you expect it
Yea, unless you're persistently writing data back to the disks often enough and all that, glhf
unique snow
Well I'm sure you can probably make a patch to do that, and maintain the patch itself. I'm sure you'd be able to find someone who knows where to start looking.
slender jay
good morning everyone
zealous wedge
have fun with TACS
unique snow
I personally have no idea how that works.
tight geyser
TACS?
zealous wedge
ThreadedAnvilChunkStorage
tight geyser
Hah
mighty storm
if i set mob caps to 0 will mobs disappear
tight geyser
Most the threading stuff I’ve seen has been insanely stupid, but it was all spigot so know it’s way nicer in paper
mighty storm
golden gust
non-persistent mobs, sure, eventually
tight geyser
So, I’m not necessarily even looking to swap the default storage per say. But replicating it for analysis and warehousing would be awesome
Would a PR for making the storage mechanism configurable at boot be shot down?
golden gust
I heavily doubt that anybody on the team is all that interested of maintaining it
tight geyser
Even if loaded via reflection / class loaders during initialization?
static badge
storage mechanism of?
tight geyser
storage mechanism of?
@static badge good question. Anything that writes to files / disk / etc
mighty storm
just add it to yatopia, theyll take it in a heartbeat /s
golden gust
Theres not even a singular place where the server does all of that
static badge
problem is the diff to do that is total cancer
you need to literally touch every fucking thing
and touch all your plugins
you need a solution underneath
tight geyser
So maybe a push to pull that all up a layer?
Ie put it behind an SPI, which eventually could be pluggable if needed
unique snow
Yeah well, if that PR was looking to do something similar, that's a good starting point, and if you have specific questions I'm sure #paper-dev may be a place to ask.
As far as a PR itself (not talking in any official capacity, just a gut feeling).. I'd guess not. You're wanting to tinker with an area that handles something precious to end users; their data. The core team is probably going to be very careful about that area. It would have to be very easily maintainable probably.
static badge
you need a file system that does it for you
potent fossil
I mean if worse comes to worse and the answer is no which is what it's looking like, you're definitely free to use cat's byof repo to start a new fork that provides it, and makes it extremely simple to keep upstream up to date
but up to you
tight geyser
you need a file system that does it for you
@static badge I don’t follow. Explain?
golden gust
The server writes to the disk in many dozen places
tight geyser
Byof?
golden gust
You'd have to patch all of those things or find a way to "fake" the access to the disk is what I think he's saying
.byof
limber knotBOT
Template for building your own fork of Paper - based on Aikar's fork - https://github.com/electronicboy/byof
tight geyser
Ah tyvm
static badge
what I'm saying is you need a file system to actually fully support moving everything accessing files off of disk
tight geyser
You'd have to patch all of those things or find a way to "fake" the access to the disk is what I think he's saying
@golden gust happens a lot of places, but all in PaperMC code right? Or are you saying underlying FS?
static badge
there are about a few thousand places where it uses files
golden gust
it's all vanilla code
tight geyser
It being Paper? Or decompiled vanilla
golden gust
decomp vanilla
tight geyser
Arg that was my fear
I’ve swapped FS for virtualized / protected abstractions before long ago (ironically even to MongoFS 🤦♂️) but it’s a serious PITA
Ok. That was super super helpful - thanks guys
Sorry about causing a ruckus 😅
Always hard breaking into a new discord when it feels like the OGs pounce, so hopefully didn’t piss anyone off too much
mighty storm
oh is that why there's so many forks
static badge
there are so many forks cuz they followed my lead
minor badge
leaf 😠
cosmic raft
hi
cosmic raft
who?
mighty storm
yours
cosmic raft
I am all
vagrant niche
he's from india
vernal moth
Kash is just adjusted to europe timezones
mighty storm
mini and proxi always get up when i go to bed smh
vernal moth
So he makes sure to greet us when we wake up
golden gust
Who needs a sane sleep schedule?
vernal moth
Ppl with a job...
golden gust
Shhhhhh
zealous wedge
since when are sun and work attached
i've started work at a lot of hours
most hours tbh
mighty storm
i mean times were different 2000+ years ago
vernal moth
I have flexible working hours too
But if I start after lunch my boss rolls with his eyes
And I have a meeting in an hour
zealous wedge
i mean i've had work start at 3am and 3pm lol
golden gust
I'm just freelancing for a bit, there is this place that looks kinda interesting, but, wanna sort my sleep and health out a bit more before I start applying to places
vernal moth
Earliest I can start is 6, latest I can leave is 21
zealous wedge
oof ya, proper full time is scary
void void
@slim nymph I dont understand what changed in 1.16.2 that takes months to update?
vernal moth
I don't understand ppl who can't read
slender jay
dont be that guy @void void
vernal moth
Neither the rules or the #742779128868241550 channel
mighty storm
what an entrance
zealous wedge
imagine thinking you're that important
your ego must be so big how do you fit it through doors?
slender jay
b..but he's entitled to an immediate answer by aikar
mighty storm
it all checks out
- ip in bio
- boosting (his server's discord probably)
- pinged first dev on the list
viral hornet
how dare aikar not answer him instantly smh my head
zealous wedge
where should we send the invoice for your support contract?
spiral eagle
i think aikar is
tight geyser
Lol see now that’s a question to pounce on 😂😂😂
mighty storm
but he online 
spiral eagle
his gf probably on
viral hornet
I didn't think he ever slept
zealous wedge
night? sleep? when?
mighty storm
current status of 1.16.2
viral hornet
being powered by 524 hour
slender jay
what is sleep?
tight geyser
Does paper have any collections that evict based on time + LRU?
vestal jasper
mighty storm
👀
golden gust
guava has stuff for that
zealous wedge
probably in guava, six
grand pewter
nice emote spotted
spiral eagle
zealous wedge
or caffeine but i don't think paper brings that in
vestal jasper
@static badge
mighty storm
is the only nekolove i have but it's a weeb emote uh oh
tight geyser
Yeah but I’d imagine I want to tie into the existing executors?
zealous wedge
eh don't bother
zealous wedge
none of the server executors are exposed in-api
and the bukkit scheduler doesn't expose a ScheduledExecutor implementation
tight geyser
Been a while since I had to manage highly threaded code. Feels like having floating executors per plugin is just asking for performance degradation
Premature optimization?
tight geyser
Lol yeah I’ve seen some shit that made my eyes bleed
static badge
provided you don't go full banned word on the threads you're fine
seen plugins start up 1000 cpu intensive tasks
threads
zealous wedge
yeah, just don't have an unbounded thread pool and you'll be fineee
tight geyser
Gotcha
Was thinking I could have one that fires an event every X tics or something, then have handlers just observe that
zealous wedge
concurrency is... iffy in minecraft anyways lol
tight geyser
For most async ops id imagine that’d be plenty
Hah yeah anything building on awt is bound to blow
mighty storm
https://github.com/PaperMC/Travertine/pull/40 what happened here lmao
spiral eagle
pauli on 
pulsar jolt
I don't understand how to download papermc
Is papermc a plugin or a place hosts servers
slender jay
.download
quasi valley
https://papermc.io/downloads and click on those sexy clouds with the downwards arrow
limber knotBOT
quasi valley
it's server software, drop in replacement to Spigot
mighty storm
(assuming you aren't running spigot 1.16.2)
quasi valley
people who seriously run 1.16.2 Spigot are literal lunatics
like, that's not even 1.16.1 level of running a slow af server, but just intentionally punching yourself in the face
mighty storm
someone earlier was complaining about 1.16.1 paper crashing on latest build, but not crashing on 136
turns out they're from spigot 1.16.2, downgraded, and are running into "dont let worlds from 1.16.2 load"
slender jay
lol
mighty storm
pure uwu
quasi valley
no you REALLY shouldn't do that
downgrading worlds is the biggest no no you can get, unless it's just some test world or you don't actually care about the world's content and playerdata
slender jay
they obviously dont care if they jumped to spigot 1.16.2, 2 days after release
md is just being md
cant do anything about that
quasi valley
||hard fork 
||
slender jay
i mean afaik md didnt even warn about possible issues
when updating
and thats just 
mighty storm
and the invalid biome id nonsense
spammed console and froze me lol
paper 1.16.2 be like
twin lagoon
chew how's rory
quasi valley
michael how's your twitter followers
mighty storm
we had to give her a shot earlier :/ to stop the scratching
twin lagoon
kneny it appears that you haven't followed me on twitter yet
quasi valley
you killed her?! 
twin lagoon
144 others have already made the right choice 
quasi valley
see, I just only follow cool people
potent fossil
follow me then
mighty storm
quasi valley
what's your twitter
potent fossil
someone said i was cool earlier
mighty storm
gues im not cool
quasi valley
cool people I've also seen on twitter* 😂
quasi valley
can arrange that
twin lagoon
Kenny it appears that you haven't been following me on Twitter yet.
viral hornet
:\\\
quasi valley
sorry michael I can't hear you
twin lagoon
Excellent choice @potent fossil
potent fossil
<3
twin lagoon
@quasi valley hangar wen
quasi valley
soon™️
twin lagoon
@viral hornet 🥺
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺 👉 👈
mighty storm
uwu 
twin lagoon
mental meadow
mental meadow
Michael ❤️
mighty storm
what site woah
twin lagoon
mental meadow
That's a good emoji chew
mighty storm
sign in with twitter, yuck
quasi valley
they noticed I unfollowed you
mighty storm
👀
potent fossil
how and why https://owo.whats-th.is/6hdadfj.png
quasi valley
because I follow him
mental meadow
potent fossil
twin lagoon
for me it didn't tweet the first time
it did tweet the next time
lmao
oh god no
mighty storm
Twitter
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@quasi valley 
mighty storm
i think it broke
quasi valley
@minor badge 
mental meadow
twin lagoon
golden gust
mfw I said it can't post
waxen panther
nice!
quasi valley
what an awesome app
potent fossil
are these all made by google?
mighty storm
im finna make my own 😤
rustic knoll
gotta love unticking the post the tweet box but it does it anyway smh
twin lagoon
finlay 
mental meadow
Finland?
rustic knoll
hai michael
twin lagoon
hello
mighty storm
do NOT click if you are kneny -> ||uwu||
limber knotBOT
I didn't click!
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kneny pls test my pr on windows
twin lagoon
quasi valley
wat pr
mighty storm
all of them
mighty storm
uh oh
quasi valley
dat ping
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of course someone's got that name
twin lagoon
good job
quasi valley
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it's fine i'll just kick them /s
cedar spade
yes why wouldn't someone be called someone, that's their name
mighty storm
every time they get pinged it's referring to the original @ someone lmao
twin lagoon
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super sick yo
quasi valley
rad
mighty storm
https://twitter.com/spigotdrama/status/1297383061412225025?s=21 of course they did smh
Twitter
quasi valley
I can't believe how I've ever patched Paper on Windows
zealous wedge
hewwo kneny uwu
mighty storm
hewwo, congrats on level 4
zealous wedge
do the scripts even work on windows? I could only get thrm to work on Linux
thx chew :3
it's my only achievement in life
potent fossil
i find darkreader's "light" mode to be pretty ass, but it doesn't seem possible to just tell it to not do anything to specific sites
anyone know if that's a thing?
mighty storm
they have a hardcoded lists of "do not dark mode" sites
potent fossil
i thought 'toggle off' would work while the 'only for site.com' is highlighted, but that just turns the whole deal off
mighty storm
i dont use it persoanlly so idk if there's a manual override
zealous wedge
h a r d f o r k
quasi valley
simple, click up here to disable it for a certain site https://i.imgur.com/cBv46i2.png
twin lagoon
@potent fossil seems like hetzner fixed themselves
potent fossil
They never replied to me again after I told them to stop playing games with me
twin lagoon
quasi valley
krolik is the new bardy it seems
mighty storm
bardy, krolik, and tofikarz stating the obvious
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tofikarz
mighty storm
forgot how to breath for a sec oops
quasi valley
oh yeah that guy
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i blocked tofi, i think i blocked krolik
mighty storm
surprised he didn't link to the tool he made to find the error that doesn't work
alright gn yall
twin lagoon
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aurora is awake
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re
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cat's awake
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ally
mighty storm
proxi ur awake too
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i'm not a mod though, chew
mighty storm
you're more than a mod!
golden gust
You have mod perms now do stuff :whip:
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i've got the perms in case someone spams the n word or smth but that's about it
vestal jasper
yeah imagine proxi being mod
i'd be banned in a heartbeat considering how much I mistreat her
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wh
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did this job have more than the description said
mighty storm
"mistreat" 👀
cedar spade
BomBartyGameRealms
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mighty storm
im rollen rollen rollen
vestal jasper
nicht bannen
quasi valley
schwing den Bannhammer
vestal jasper
NEIN
mighty storm
LISTEN HERE
vestal jasper
BITTE NICHT
mighty storm
goodnight
twin lagoon
chuwu
twin lagoon
vic jesus
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wh
twin lagoon
vestal jasper
uwu
quasi valley
Papa 😂
twin lagoon
papa kneny
twin lagoon
vestal jasper
@mighty storm go to sleep
mighty storm
I gotta wait until im@tired
potent fossil
alright i need to go tf to sleep
cedar spade
wan dot ate pee vee pee
olive marlin
Kill me. I spent 2 days trying to figure out why a tool shits itself when trying to authorize me. No meaningful errors.
My editor decided it's a good idea to add new line character to file with password - and I missed that for a long time even when reading tcpdump logs...
void void
Hello!
vernal moth
Every file should end with a new line
If whatever tool is unable to read a file properly that's on them
olive marlin
I mean, that's partially true.
But if you take that it's a file with a secret value - you should take it literally. What if my password ended with a newline character?
I wish I just had any meaningful errors, and not have to setup whole debugging proxy and tcpdump etc.
vestal jasper
yes but how does your editor know that any given file has a password?
vestal jasper
you can (likely) tell it not to append with newlines but it's not going to automatically know to do so
keen notch
guys CAN MAYBE ONE OFF YOU GUYS HELP ME?
vestal jasper
no
cedar spade
michael HELP ME
cedar spade
knenywhihp
waxen panther
CAN MAYBE ONE OFF YOU GUYS HELP ME?
warm anchor
waxen panther
IT'S STUCK, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME TURN IT OFF?
vernal moth
Now you even use bold, that's now straight up rude
Use italic when you are talking to me you pleb
waxen panther
WHY NOT BOTH
vestal jasper
WHY NOT THAT AND CODE BLOCKS? AND UNDERLINES, TOO!
mossy vessel
tf
waxen panther
no bold 😔
smoky python
What is happening?
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@twin lagoon
@waxen panther
void void
IT'S STUCK, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME TURN IT OFF?
@waxen panther afaik you can also shift whilst capslock is on to not have caps
vestal jasper
vestal jasper
void void
oh god
vestal jasper
mercy main btw
void void
It's very quiet where I am
I say as I hear what sounds like someone screaming into a bugle
vestal jasper
Play the trumpet
void void
thanks neighbors
It's funny that you say play the trumpet as I say it sounds like someone screaming into a bugle
vestal jasper
Bagle
void void
bagles are donuts but with less sugar fight me
vestal jasper
Bugles are just long metal bagles
void void
waxen panther
no my shift button is missing
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@waxen panther idiot
latent valve
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quasi valley
mregirl go back to your anime cave
vestal jasper
@vestal jasper
rotund cargo
:mercyPat: mercy main btw
You got me !
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@waxen panther uwu
waxen panther
uwu
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@quasi valley uwuuu
void void
🛑
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void void
🛑
waxen panther
latent valve
rotund cargo
Nah, battlemercy is for Neptuno or gold players xD
latent valve
techie can easily blast that mercy to the moon
vestal jasper
Tbh gold widows would struggle to hit a stunned Bob
rotund cargo
420H of mercy, 1700H of games and level 2121 xD
waxen panther
wheres my pocket mercy
left swift
In the closet
vestal jasper
Brocc you don't even play ow
rotund cargo
wheres my pocket mercy
I'm here lul
waxen panther
i used to before it turned shit
left swift
When was it not shit
left swift
Overwatch 2 coming soon
rotund cargo
xD
waxen panther
verwatch 2
waxen panther
I think blizzard are doing that well enough themselves
vernal moth
I don't want a StarCraft fps
I want a new StarCraft RTS
I also want a new Warcraft RTS
I also want a new AoE RTS
And a new the settlers
I just want new strategy games in general, lol
And not dum console ports like Halo wars, it was cool and all, but I want a real PC strategy game
worn ember
@latent valve brah, i hit the most gamewinning black hole in dota history and my fokin pos 4 invoker tornadoes in the bh making it literally useless
smh
worn ember
you wanna play a match?
ashen cliff
Just play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. without downgrading NoVideo drivers.
green edge
does anybody know about the repo with 1.8.8 with backported patches?
spice finch
I don't think that one exists
1.8.8 was time where mojang didn't really care about MC (not that he cares now 
), many patches are impossible to port backwards
quasi valley
committed sources
green edge
oh rip
left swift
NachoSpigot, TacoSpigot, wen HangarSpigot
ashen cliff
Github requires you to be logged in, to download an action artifact. 
spice finch
DMCA 
green edge
don't think people care that much, last time a dmca was sent the person sending it was swatted several times
spice finch
Is it true that Paper redistributes Mojangs code? The guy from this fork told me that patches contains mojang code
I know they do contain code, but might it be considered as redistributing?
green edge
thea idea behind patches is not to redistribute mojang code
golden gust
We distribute patches, which contain decompiled mojang sources as part of the fluff, we don't actually ship their decompiled code
vernal moth
The little amount of mojang code in the patches is fair use
Uploading the full decompiled source code is redistribution of mojang assets and a copyright violation, and a violation of craftbukkits licence
quasi valley
just people either too lazy or dum to use patches
mostly lazy and lazy to learn, cuz 1.8 people
ashen cliff
mortal mountain
It's a small project
waxen panther
im not gunna follow the law if github dont tell me to 🙄
wintry kayak
they might also switch to a more modern version of minecraft when they have to I guess
golden gust
when they have to
quasi valley
"it's a small project" isn't an excuse to let go of basic conventions (or legal matter) lol
golden gust
It's literally like 5 years later
The only chance of that changing is people loving whatever mojang drops with the combat update
And, well, 🤷♂️
waxen panther
even if it was better in every way the 1.8 kids wouldn't care lol
wintry kayak
even when the combat update hits, these are the kinds of people that will just stuck with 1.8 "because it's better"
vernal moth
Most ppl moved on so who gives a shit 🤷
golden gust
They're not that bad
waxen panther
.typing
limber knotBOT
quasi valley
people just won't be able to update their ancient code and servers to software 5-7 years newer at that point
golden gust
The server owners are muuuuuuuuch worse than the actual players
mortal mountain
Could you guys chill about 1.8, I understand you guys are over it
vernal moth
Let's just pay Kenny to kinda break 1.8 in via
waxen panther
no, making fun of 1.8 is the sole joy this server has now
vernal moth
Like, not obviously break it, just make it worse
quasi valley
sounds good to me 😂
spice finch
I think it's not even about the version, but how you consider law
waxen panther
$5 to remove viabackwards
quasi valley
tbh I'd rip it out if it were up to me and people wouldn't instantly do their own forks 
golden gust
kneny halp
spice finch
Stop updating VB then kenny 
quasi valley
Ctrl+A Delete
mortal mountain
1.8 is gonna die out soon chill XD
spice finch
I don't think so 
wintry kayak
I doubt that sadly
golden gust
only person here who's not "chill" is you ree-ing over people talking
mortal mountain
:/ well you guys are forever knocking 1.8 like you're above it for using a new version
golden gust
I don't knock 1.8 itself
I've literally stated dozens of times why people stick to 1.8
mortal mountain
Then what's the problem?
golden gust
The literal only person with a problem here is you
honest raft
I'm getting an error when starting paper
mortal mountain
:/ That comment is kinda uncalled for
quasi valley
noone called you a bad person for using 1.8, just lazy
honest raft
Downloading vanilla jar...
Patching vanilla jar...
Failed to patch vanilla jar, output patched jar is still not valid
we're just talking about how/why more people could get off 1.8 at some point
golden gust
best guess is try a different folder or something, maybe redownload the jar, something mangled something
rotund cargo
With the new pvp and possible optimizations from mojang admins could stop use the 1.8 I think
golden gust
if you wanna throw it in the cache folder, yea
void void
yes vibeman
vernal moth
Most admins already updated
quasi valley
from Paper* 😂
vernal moth
Even globally
wintry kayak
the combat changes do look exciting imo, it very well could get some people to stop complaining about the combat in 1.8 being better. I very well hope so at least. There's however always gonna be some people anal about it till forever most likely
vernal moth
Only 12% on 1.8
golden gust
The major kicker was how slow they made it
wintry kayak
although the best change in the combat snapshots so far is stackable potions imo 😂 don't really care about combat in general
golden gust
Not to mention the change which makes you feel like a fatfuck jumping around a ring
quasi valley
did they change something around client velocity in the combat snapshots?
else you gotta make a suggestion, cat ;p
golden gust
No idea, I don't really play the game either, so, more just an annoyance of a feeling when hopping around the world blindly
honest raft
yes vibeman
@void void Thanks, I just had to restart from the cli