I just use Chrome for desktop and mobile, don't really care that much about my browser tbh
#general
wide chasm
limber knotBOT
firefox all users: 15%, mobile only, 1.4%
samsung internet overall 6.6%, mobile 11.8%
limber knotBOT
we have so strange browsers
peak ginkgo
Samsung Calendar and Samsung Internet are a little much if u ask me
worn ember
Samsung is probably owned by Ivans dad
limber knotBOT
like, wtf is amazon silk
peak ginkgo
Amazon Silk is a web browser developed by Amazon. It was launched in November 2011 for Kindle Fire and Fire Phone,
thanks, I cant google myself you know
worn ember
you did ask
flint shore
Lol
worn ember
.g amazon silk
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-com-Amazon-Silk-Web-Browser/dp/B01M35MQV4 -- Amazon Silk - Web Browser: Appstore for Android - Amazon.com: "Buy Amazon Silk - Web Browser: Read Apps & Games Reviews - Amazon.com."
peak ginkgo
.g "amazon silk browser"
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-com-Amazon-Silk-Web-Browser/dp/B01M35MQV4 -- Amazon Silk - Web Browser: Appstore for Android - Amazon.com: "Easily control videos and music with Alexa or your Fire TV remote. Silk presents the web in full screen for an immersive experience that's..."
worn ember
lmao
worn ember
its bing we're talking about, dont expect too much
flint shore
.g google
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.google.com/ -- Google: "Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're..."
peak ginkgo
.g "amazon silk browser" site:en.wikipedia.org
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Silk -- Amazon Silk - Wikipedia: "Amazon Silk. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to navigation Jump to search. Amazon Silk. Amazon Silk browser icon ..."
peak ginkgo
haha did it
limber knotBOT
dont bot spam
flint shore
.g sorry
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRh_vgS2dFE -- Justin Bieber - Sorry (PURPOSE : The Movement) - YouTube: "Oct 22, 2015 ... 'Purpose' Available Everywhere Now! iTunes: http://smarturl.it/PurposeDlx?IQid=VEVO1113 Stream & Add To Your Spotify Playlist: ..."
worn ember
says the bot 
flint shore
XDD
wide chasm
In IRC land, we're the bots
worn ember
thats just a fake reality
peak ginkgo
We're all bots
flint shore
.g communism
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism -- Communism - Wikipedia: "Communism is a philosophical, social, political, economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society,..."
worn ember
@cedar spade https://github.com/SpigotMC/SpigotCraft/pull/492 lmfao
smh not even using random teleport
left swift
Why does every RTP plugin gotta be named the same tho
ashen cliff
FastAsyncRandomTeleportEX-10%-BlackFriday-Christmas-SALE-SNAPSHOT-SHADED.jar
left swift
"Hey did u buy FART? it's on sale for black Friday!"
worn ember
i make my own
i love myself sometimes, i actually explained what i'm doing in this equation for once
past me is a real champ
jovial remnant
man I wish some premium plugins offered like, demos
rather than fawking out 20 euro for something that might not do as i wish hahaha
ashen cliff
There exists a website, that offers "demos".
jovial remnant
yeh Ik of it, just heaps of them are outdated
left swift
And also bitcoin miners
jovial remnant
^^
worn ember
so thats why on my dev server everything goes to 100% when i boot
left swift
Maybe a little... ya know... forcefully assisted advertising aswell
jovial remnant
is that a thing tho? can you just sneak that kind of malware into a plugin?
left swift
U can sneak a lot of things into a plugin
jovial remnant
would they not need the source code tho?
worn ember
mfw some girl from my childhood just requests to follow me and then asks me to send them my number
ashen cliff
Still. It's a free demo. Don't complain.
left swift
Time to wake up ded
warm anchor
Wow that’s very nice of her. Did yup give her the number yet
worn ember
im just gonna wait a few mins before replying kappa
jovial remnant
watch her send you an invite to a pyramid scheme
worn ember
sounds like she'd need something tbh, but why not just ask then
we'll see ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯
jovial remnant
she needs you sell weight loss tea to 5 of your friends
left swift
If you just invest 5000 dollars with me into this new product we can expect a 150% return!
worn ember
i mean, theres no other way
ashen cliff
If you invested into AyyMD back in 2015, you wouldn't be here right now.
ashen cliff
Correct.
worn ember
i invested in Intel and my stonks go 📉
ashen cliff
1 cm make a whole lot of a difference. 😉
left swift
Stonks
green edge
I need to open source a project, but i have some util classes included that i personally used in other projects of mine
The concern is that whatever license i use, it would force me to also include notice or opensource the projects that i'll include those util classes in
any ideas to how i can handle that without having to modify all my future projects using the respective utils?
green edge
i thought about making the sourcecode public without giving any license
worn ember
if you dont open source those other projects i dont see the issue
its still your code in the end
you can license it as you want
vernal moth
You can include MIT Code in a closed source project no problem
It's not the GPL after all, lol
worn ember
bruh it was a fucking scam
i knew no one would ask for my number smh not even child hood friends
hacked account ig
vernal moth
Haha imagine getting scammed
worn ember
first message is asking my number, after adding me on insta, thats a big giant red flag already lmao
cedar spade
@green edge IANAL but assuming you own the copyright on those util classes, even if you release them as open source, you can (almost certainly) still use the code in your closed source project
vernal moth
Wanting to communicate with you should always be a red flag
worn ember
thats why i didnt give it 😉
left swift
Pyramid schemes aren't a scam, smh my head just make money lol
worn ember
its about a "sms contest" so clearly they just want my number to sell it
left swift
Lol
worn ember
or try to make me pay first before getting a prize lul
cedar spade
This SE answer might help you make a decision: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/a/331847
green edge
thanks a lot
cedar spade
The main caveat is if you accept contributions to those util classes under the GPL, you won't hold the copyright for the contributed code, so you won't be able to copy those modifications back to your closed source
But again, IANAL
left swift
U anal?
quiet forge
a
worn ember
tf does iANAL mean
wide chasm
I Am Not A Lawyer
mental meadow
probably a bad vibrator from apple
cedar spade
queue predictable joke
wide chasm
Sorry, the queue is full already
worn ember
shame
i love how md5 labels issues as "fixed" but doesnt close the issues
man typing is hard
mental meadow
good thing i just switched from MIT to GPLv3 then
wide chasm
smh
worn ember
cant have licensing issues if you dont have one
wide chasm
If you don't specify a license, can't use dependencies that use GPL
worn ember
ugh so now i gotta read licenses of my dependencies pepehands
minor badge
@mental meadow
mental meadow
I mean no one really cares and I never heard of anyone that got into trouble because of that, but legally speaking you should always do that
@minor badge have you seen the video from mark rober with the squirrels? 😮
worn ember
i loved that video
minor badge
Just don't licence your shit as GPL
i literally have a script for gpl lol
@mental meadow no
worn ember
go watch it right now
mental meadow
minor badge
no thank
mental meadow
Mark Rober in general is A+
it's pretty cute proxi 😮 one of the squirrels was pregnant and got kids
minor badge
i dont care ,
cosmic raft
proxi is so negative
zealous wedge
proxi uwu
mental meadow
proxi whats wrong 😦
quasi valley
that video was 10/10 haha
mental meadow
ok that's understandable
worn ember
it'll be all ogre soon
minor badge
twin lagoon
proxi uwu
minor badge
pointed out many issues with his plugin and he won't even say he wants to fix them
vestal jasper
@minor badge
your software never has bugs
if you claim they're all features
"you don't have the right to decompile it"
It's on my computer. I can do what I want with it.
zealous wedge
lol that's not how licensing works
minor badge
didnt ask and dont care. i decompiled it, send the cops after me, champ
oo this guy has more resources
time to make more issues that are 100% well reasoned and will piss him off
vestal jasper
I don't care about the license
What's he gonna do? Ban me from downloading his free plugin?
Because I audited his plugin?
minor badge
tbh
vestal jasper
the author's attitude, it seems
vernal moth
Somebody send the author the spigot licence, lmao
wide hazel
@twin lagoon what's in RegionFileCompression?
twin lagoon
apparently mojang has done all the work you've done basically acccording to my dev
swapping to zstd shouldn't be so hard
finite wave
minor badge
i ain't looking to witch hunt him, just piss him off
mossy vessel
I'm shocked that a resource like that has more than 100k downloads 👀
wintry kayak
the way the readme is written already makes me not want to install it tbh
next wind
so its what people are going to download if their looking for a tpa
static badge
@twin lagoon he's aware, in fact it's already built on that system
viral hornet
@minor badge were you planning to use that plugin? Or what made you want to decompile it
Sorry if you answered and I didn't scroll up far enough
minor badge
im playing on a server which used that plugin till very recently when i convinced them to switch to essentialsx
twin lagoon
was in 1.15 already? @static badge
static badge
static badge
older patch blows
viral hornet
Yeah, they made a good move
twin lagoon
ok in that case, probably looked into the older version patch
@viral hornet 🥺
e2288g 🥺
twin lagoon
e2288g when
static badge
the current patch works pretty well
static badge
from my recollection it was merge ready last time I reviewed it
viral hornet
Blame rona
viral hornet
Proxi if he reports it I could imagine it being deleted because of:
The switch-block for finding the server version is pure aids.
So you should edit out that last part so there's no reason for it to be deleted 
minor badge
don't care, i can just post it again but with that thing changed
twin lagoon
@viral hornet how's auscraft 🥺
viral hornet
new spawn is done, almost ready to release 1.16.2 (once paper has a stable build)
minor badge
okay one down, 2 to go
cosmic raft
hi @twin lagoon
twin lagoon
hi kashike
vernal moth
Pretty sure the author admitted to botting at some point
dapper nacelle
I have json access tokens and refresh tokens implemented into my API but the question is where do I store them
the refresh token should be a cookie, right?
but what do I do with the access token
keep it in memmory?
green edge
SkinsRestorer is required for cracked servers
so there is a reason it's so downoaded
in terms of botting, haven't heard of that myself. They did use proxies to bypass mojang's API limits, but that's it
next wind
so all of those are cracked servers?
waxen panther
brrrrrr
vernal moth
If you enable piracy, you are on such moral low ground that botting seems like smth they would do 🤷
viral hornet
#BroccolisAgainstPiracy
vernal moth
They don't waste time fighting that
twin lagoon
nah skinsrestorer was technically botting
vernal moth
Doesn't mean you should enable it or support it
vernal moth
Nah, offline mode is fine, for you know, offline usage
Aka in planes or shit like that
latent valve
Aww SkinsRestorer, "System.out.println("[SkinsRestorer] "), try {} catch (Exception e) {}" - The cleanest code it has comes from one-time contributors.
Thought it would be smt much cooler kneny pls fix
Ok cool. Aparently im writing chinese rn
Wow didnt know that
worn ember
void void
indeed
worn ember
mikro pp smoll
twin lagoon
@quasi valley kneni hangar wen
void void
shut up nano pp owners
worn ember
get bullied
void void
mrzdok's pp is extremely nano coz weeb
worn ember
vim is smoller than nano
amber willow
Hi
worn ember
cosmic raft
latent valve
Cashew?
cosmic raft
too hot out here
next wind
like that
latent valve
That fuxking alot of channel
There already 2 support/help channel
#paperhelp
#watwrfallhelp
why need more
next wind
because its annoying when your question is forgotten about because someone else needs help
both people should be able to get help
latent valve
Well if someone see n cna answer they will prob answer but if no one know then re ask afew hour later ig
next wind
why not just add a second support channel then
and re asking a few hours later is like a few hours you cant do work on your server
latent valve
Most i have seen is just timings and help
Then some error
worn ember
you
worn ember
ur poop
minor badge
who is techie
shell vine
latent valve
Techie is that assblast hero in dota
limber knotBOT
steel pulsar
no opinion
ancient bolt
that repo has to be a joke lol
static badge
ancient bolt
I mean the gif makes is obvious imo
wide chasm
287 stars
slender jay
yeah fees are still the same
worn ember
only in murica
worn ember
we start again as normal in september im pretty sure
some finals are online still but most are on campus
slender jay
a hybrid system is in the works at my uni
things that can be done online will be for sure
thing is thats like 20% the rest has to be in person
modern mc
without at least 2gb
will be shit
modern mc
without at least 2gb
will be shit
oh sweet jesus
wdym barty
ofc its superior
didnt catch on my sarcasm
thanks to 1.9 combat
pvp looks like something decent
instead of the spam clicking shit it was before
you got it
already
1gb is shit way
to run a server
anyway
limber knotBOT
slender jay
and this is where the convo cycles
so ill stop here
cant wait for the next round of old combat plugins
once mojang changes the pvp again
i should start making pop corn
cause that will be fun to watch
formal turret
Jeb seems to be trying to listen to the community when it comes to this combat system so maybe it'll get people to give up 1.8
slender jay
10 year old kids will never let go of spam clicking
and that is a recipe for disaster in my opinion
make a poll maybe they'll tell you to use windows server next
well im European too
still i dont let
players tell me what to do
thats the thought process around here barty
why buy when you can pirate
void void
@slim nymph is it possible to disable async chunks in 1.16.2 rc builds because i could not find the option
jolly crown
why did you
unreal quarry
@void void no.
slender jay
careful barty
void void
rip
slender jay
reading some of the questions in this guild may lead to storke
void void
slim nymph
it auto disables itself in the one scenario it might be an improvement
and even then its silly and not really an improvement
(single core cpu's)
void void
are you talking about the sync chunk stuff
slim nymph
yes
void void
i wanted to see if the console spam would go away
slim nymph
.... and THAT is why i deleted the config
that is total false information that got spread
void void
but i could also try reducing the threads
slim nymph
no
void void
instead of -1
slim nymph
its a vanilla bug, you cant fix it
void void
which one
void void
are you sure we are talking about the same thing
slim nymph
well if were not, your talking about an unreported bug
people spread false information that disabling async chunks would fix the maplike spam, thats false
void void
to help it
slim nymph
no, it doesnt help anything lol
ancient bolt
DENY EVERYTHING's name seems to be fitting here
slim nymph
i took the config away because of that FUD
slender jay
yeah total denial lol
void void
i reduced the spawn chunks range and added a thread limit to the async chunks to get the console spam to go away
data about the chunks
slim nymph
paste the logs
slender jay
can you paste or something
slim nymph
where?
unreal quarry
Inb4 watchdog thread dumps
slim nymph
we dont have it
void void
il post a small screenshot
ancient bolt
I understand that you think you know what you're talking about, but you don't. And you're arguing with people who do.
screenshot
Are you joking
twin lagoon
small screenshot*
slender jay
aikar its your fault, you should keep tabs on each server /s
cant have the guy send logs twice
void void
@ancient bolt i am not arguing
ancient bolt
oh okay
ancient bolt
Cut the attitude my dude
cedar spade
@spare venture stop using windows !?!?!??!!
slender jay
barty can you add a bit more blur
twin lagoon
wow
quasi valley
hey barty don't joke about that, someone actually once sent us a 300x199 screenshot of a console error
twin lagoon
that's great info
cosmic raft
ah yes
slender jay
can you PASTE the logs
unreal quarry
Your room is too clean, Barty. It bothers me lmao
cosmic raft
the right side of that desk
jolly crown
.paste
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
cedar spade
block up your windows with pictures of penguins
twin lagoon
barty why do you have an amazon lanyard
void void
so i believe the reason why it spams that is because the server has too much to do
all the chunks it has to generate and load
cosmic raft
isn't that what you have open at the bottom there
cosmic raft
ah
twin lagoon
slender jay
whats wrong with sublime
ancient bolt
Why do you use windows?
slender jay
i love it
cosmic raft
I use windows right now, don't feel bad :P
formal turret
you can install linux on windows
twin lagoon
Wow!
cosmic raft
Michael!
slim nymph
@void void yes and disabling async chunks would of been the absolute worst thing you could have done to help that lol
twin lagoon
hello kashike
cosmic raft
hallo
slim nymph
that spam is telling you your server is lagging, reduce your view distance
loaded data that didnt get converted barty 😛
thats old names
how did you trigger that/
void void
it happens when i create a new worlds so it has to generate and load range 10 of chunks
cedar spade
block up your windows with pictures of penguins
cosmic raft
if those are in some config, just rename to be lower_under - generic.max_health etc
slim nymph
@void void whatever your creating the world is likely calling .getChunkAt on the chunks
is it like trying to manually pregen or some shit
void void
its actually so much simpler than you think
slim nymph
is it your code? if so, paste it in #paper-dev , sounds like you have a bug
formal turret
are you using a custom world gen plugin?
cosmic raft
also @spare venture
slim nymph
are you teleporting into said world?
cosmic raft
only a laptop? no desktop, or at least another monitor?
unreal quarry
Desktops are so much nicer
void void
and as i teleported it started spamming yes
unreal quarry
You're missing out, barty
limber knotBOT
gotta have at least 2 computers
void void
and here is why sync chunks would help - becuase if it generates the chunks sync then the server will not register the teleport command until after the chunks have been generated and loaded
slim nymph
well because you screenshotted instead of giving logs cant understand what the code was doing
no @void void thats 100% false
void void
as far as i remember
slim nymph
your server would instead be spamming the logs while its generating the chunks instead
slim nymph
you need to use Player.teleportAsync
yes, and main thread is blocked lol
not doing anything
but waiting for chunks to gen
unreal quarry
I like how someone is schooling aikar on how async chunks works 
slim nymph
i dont think hes trying to counter me, just has lot of false information
void void
is player teleport async paper specific?
void void
i dont understand how what i said is false
void void
that does not help alot
slim nymph
your either blocking waiting for chunks to gen for EVERYTHING vs blocking only the chunk your trying to access for a teleport
cosmic raft
dolphin issue?
slim nymph
also, are you even up to date, cause that kind of stuff shouldnt be as heavy on latest builds
twin lagoon
fuckin dolphins
slim nymph
others do, plenty of complaints about structure searching hurting
phoenix has the patch nearly restored
we dropped it as mojang was supposively doing it themselves now, but as usual, they failed
unreal quarry
I should send my patch in as a pr. Even once seed based searching is a thing again I can see how some would still want to disable dolphin searching as an option
void void
i will try this on 1.16.1 to be sure
cosmic raft
1.13 was garbage
unreal quarry
I watched a video the other day of a guy making a house in the earliest version and then upgrading it each release after that. I would never go back to those early versions after seeing them again :3
zealous wedge
alpha 1.1
unreal quarry
1.14 got a new chunk loading thing. The chunk ticket system
void void
i was also running into a problem possibly where the unused chunks take too long to unload
pastel pivot
alpha is great
limber knotBOT
ah yes let's all get on a hmod server
who wants to go figure out how to build old plugins lol
pastel pivot
Sadly I have no time for this project https://github.com/stonar96/Minecraft-Alpha-Server
this is latest alpha
vestal jasper
Adventure for b1.7.3 wen
cosmic raft
vestal jasper
Actually what version started using components?
unreal quarry
Actually what version started using components?
@vestal jasper 1.8
cosmic raft
1.7 actually
vestal jasper
Adventure supports 1.7.10 afaik
cosmic raft
yep
unreal quarry
Really :o
cosmic raft
yes
true canyon
Yeah, I wrote the code translating from string to component for Bukkit (sorry)
unreal quarry
1.7/1.8 was such a weird time. I don't remember it well lol
I think I blocked it out of memory
twin lagoon
might've been 1.8 to 1.9 where it took like 2 years to update
@vestal jasper how's carbon
true canyon
MS acquisition was after 1.8 I believe.
vestal jasper
@twin lagoon
cosmic raft
@pastel pivot for a moment I thought you were writing one :p
pastel pivot
Hell no 😂
vestal jasper
And then players get DCd for tabbing display names
vestal jasper
Mine does :D
unreal quarry
Isn't that a kangaroo plugin?
cunning raft
Ye
vestal jasper
It is
vestal jasper
Tell your users to stop being braindamaged
cunning raft
Ban them
unreal quarry
I thought we were boycotting kangaroo plugins like we do songada?
vestal jasper
We are but the CCP killer ™️ Is still a WIP
unreal quarry
Idk, seems plenty. I use DeluxeChat
formal turret
just mute them when they act foolish ;D
unreal quarry
Oh, Barty. Did you see that pack granny posted the other day?
Let me find the link..
cosmic raft
example barty?
worn ember
pics plz
vestal jasper
I might work on that tonight Barty
unreal quarry
potent fossil
unreal quarry
I integrated that into my pack and love it
worn ember
vestal jasper
Anyway I'm gonna sleep now
potent fossil
its 10am vic
vestal jasper
Yes it is
potent fossil
bad
unreal quarry
twin lagoon
did someone say resource pack emojis
potent fossil
ima disregard that and just say ur lazy
fuck out of here @terse plank
@wide chasm
vestal jasper
@terse plank ur braindamaged
cosmic raft
bye
worn ember
@unreal quarry i really hope he generated that
unreal quarry
?
cosmic raft
lol barty
worn ember
lmfao
formal turret
wonderful
jolly crown
BARTYREALMS
worn ember
billy: https://github.com/Androkai/AndrosDiscordEmojis/blob/master/assets/minecraft/font/default.json
unreal quarry
Why you let players use your special chars, Barty?
cosmic raft
lol
vestal jasper
Mine doesn't have filtering for that random shit yet, is his point
unreal quarry
Ah
potent fossil
thats hot as hell
unreal quarry
Just make your own filter plugin. Like 10 lines of code is all it takes
vestal jasper
He's not a dev
vestal jasper
Ok make a filter plugin
potent fossil
Ok make worldedit 2
vestal jasper
Mine handles chat filtering
It's a chat plugin
Anvils aren't
.
I'm going to sleep
spice finch
since which version it's possible to use "custom fonts"?
unreal quarry
1.13 iirc
But you could fake it prior to that as well
1.13 just gave us more control, like sizes and spacings
formal turret
aren't they not usable though?
spice finch
maybe they're overlay on normal inventories, so there's something underneath them
unreal quarry
Totally usable, thonk
formal turret
oh, yea could do
twin lagoon
how's bombardyrealms
wtf why
such as
barty it amazes me how you can manage to fuck up your DNS every single time
it should literally work fine though
potent fossil
twin lagoon
minecraftserver.org works fine with it
lol
if it didn't work with minecraftservers.org no one would use them
minesuperior uses tcpshield
they're #1 on mcs
unreal quarry
Don't worry Barty. I don't use tcpshield either
twin lagoon
i didn't use tcpshield either until a week ago
works fine for us after having 1 issue that was fixed by contacting support
i had ping problems too
but that was fixed after they forced NA on us
that sounds like DNS to me
only reason we use it on craftadia now is because of some network issue where players get disconnected since last week
switched to tcpshield and now we're good
unreal quarry
What was your offer?
wide chasm
$5 /s
potent fossil
who were you tryna partner with
twin lagoon
beauty vlogs
unreal quarry
I have a strong budget, too. $0
spice finch
Literally every?
potent fossil
twin lagoon
spark squared barty wtf
you don't go to them for advertising
do you even know who they are
they're marketplace partners
are big under youtubers because of how to minecraft
ya that's because youtube wasn't their focus at first
they're also a build team
potent fossil
is "marketplace partner" supposed to make me go like "wow thats great i really revere them"
azure flower
what does partnering mean in this context
potent fossil
interesting
twin lagoon
at the core they're just a build team / marketplace team
yes of something they build / manage
kek
potent fossil
i have no clue what 'marketplace team' means but yes ok
potent fossil
what like mcmarket plebs
slim nymph
they release content on bedrock
potent fossil
wtf
unreal quarry
Buzzwords. Buzzwords everywhere
potent fossil
wtf
slim nymph
bedrock has some nicer capabilities than java 😦 were pushing hard to get those in java
twin lagoon
it's mc-market but more profitable™️
potent fossil
i like bedrock's GUIs
twin lagoon
they're good but horrible
potent fossil
well they're amazing considering java literally doesnt have any w/o client mods
azure flower
yeah what java edition is really missing is minecoins 💸 💰
potent fossil
we just have to use invs
twin lagoon
@spare venture try joining the youtuber's discords sor something
potent warren
the server can have custom models without the user worrying about resource packs too
potent fossil
but i had never heard of marketplace, seems interesting...
twin lagoon
or maybe even twitter dming
unreal quarry
Contact DanTDM
formal turret
yup
slim nymph
its the only way to deliver content to consoles. consoles require ms to review any content they expose
potent fossil
just email pewds and ask really nicely, say he has huge pp
slim nymph
hence why to be a server on console you have to be Partnered, a badge of approval from MS
formal turret
just build something related to pewdiepie and advertise on his subreddit
twin lagoon
ya but you also want to do some background checks
and well, seeing what videos that upload
kek
yeah you don't want a modded minecraft youtuber on your server
azure flower
is there a reason why bedrock is so far behind on chat and command related stuff
seems odd for such a huge difference to remain when they have a parity category on their bug tracker
slim nymph
they are working on it
it just takes time
something that seems simple can end up being a lot of work :/
twin lagoon
hence why to be a server on console you have to be Partnered, a badge of approval from MS
in addition to this
slim nymph
like this one project at work, in my head i ball parked 2 weeks, once fully laid out into tickets, ended up being 2 months
twin lagoon
getting partnered is a bit rough aswell
they do it in waves
you need to be a company
you need to apply and hope that you get access
green edge
bedrock is benefitting from mojang's embrace of community monetisation
slim nymph
does it state you must have a legal entity?
green edge
For builders iirc you don't need to, not sure for servers
worn ember
@spare venture I'll do it for 50% income
azure flower
I need to find someone to do my advertising for me, I'll stick to making content for my server 😢
I'm sure if you spam enough people's dms it'll work. people love that.
slim nymph
people prob want to regardless to not have legal contracts w/ MS as a person lol
twin lagoon
you'd probably be a legal entity anyways
group of people working in a team
no reason to have it on 1 persons name
void void
do i have to build the paper api or can i download a ready jar
slim nymph
well nothing in US stops you from running a business as a non legal entity
just all legal risk falls on the persons then
azure flower
If you did it in 1 person's name, you'd get better tps than using a legal entity
slim nymph
legal entities help re-assign risk, and isolate your personal funds
so if you get sued, they cant touch your personal bank account, but they CAN if you are not behind a legal entity
well some exceptions there, legal entity shield can fall if it can be proved the legal entity was purely there to shield something you intended to do wrong or so as asole proprietor, and can also fail if you dont keep finances separate
green edge
it depends on the country and entity type
worn ember
My dad got fucked like that
Luckily our house was on my moms name or we wouldve been homeless
green edge
for example in my country we have sole registered traders that pretty much leave you unprotected
but they technically are a legally registered entity
slim nymph
ah, ok so thats like some classification less than an LLC lol
green edge
yeah
slim nymph
sounds more just registering for permits to do business
green edge
kind of is
it's made for people selling at kiosks at the local market or private contractors
unreal quarry
We have that in USA too. Called a DBA
slim nymph
LLC is pretty easy to do overall, just requires 500/yr IIRC and like 800 up front.
thats not an entity billy
slim nymph
thats just "the name im calling myself"
green edge
yeah, you can in most countries
slim nymph
bigger companies then go into sub companies for more breakdown
twin lagoon
what is Starlis
slim nymph
I want to build my own game one day, the name of it is Starlis, a space mmo type game
twin lagoon
aikar starlis wen
slim nymph
lots of ideas, just would have to get over Minecraft and build a proper team 😛
slim nymph
and cmon its an awesome name 😛
unreal quarry
thats not an entity billy
That's what I said. Was commenting about:
for example in my country we have sole registered traders that pretty much leave you unprotected
slim nymph
I have plenty of game ideas, i want to make something smaller to make some money off it then build from there to bigger games
yeah but his statement implies some legal registeration with the govt, dba is not a registeration, its a nickname
but yeah Starlis is my parent company, that I can build sub games under.
unreal quarry
In Texas it has to be registered. I need one, but I'm too poor to get the license lol
green edge
Are DBA's allowed to hire employees?
cosmic raft
aikar starlis wen
slim nymph
anyone can hire 1099 contractors. now a W-2 Employee in the US? dunno...
green edge
contractors are contractors
slim nymph
i dont know what thats suppose to mean
green edge
in my country PFA's can have a maximum of 3 employess (with medical insurance and pension fund)
slim nymph
PFA?
pastel pivot
when I click Visit Empire Minecraft on starlis com I get a white page.
slim nymph
ffs, some blog auto update prob broke the site again
vernal moth
I wish I could get into proper game dev
green edge
sole registered traders
vernal moth
But alone it's just not possible really
green edge
that's a translation for PFA (Persoana Fizica Autorizata)
worn ember
hows hangar mini
vernal moth
Can't wait to get shit for working to long from my boss again tomorrow, he hates when I do that 😂
unreal quarry
@green edge just looked it up. DBA has no restrictions on hiring employees
azure flower
Anyone else here have issues with idea randomly closing? No errors or anything just poof gone at random.
vernal moth
I am not paid hourly dragon
Since this is not overtime
Overtime would be when he says I need to stay longer to finish this
worn ember
then why would he complain
pastel pivot
Apropos game dev, I'm always wondering what's the best way to separate game logic from rendering. For example in the Minecraft client. Is there logic between ticks (in the Java code) or is completely done by the game engine usually (LWJGL for example)?
slim nymph
@unreal quarry just start charging 2$ for your mini plugins and youll make enough for dba fees
worn ember
smh bad leader, he should only care about the money /s
slim nymph
and fixed the website lol
green edge
imagine charging for paper
unreal quarry
paper needs a gh sponsors button, aikar
vernal moth
Boss is a harsh term, hes team lead, of 10, but he is the only one giving me orders and handling everything, so he kinda is my boss
slim nymph
though billy ill be giving a callout in the 1.16.2 release for your help on it w/ sponsors link so maybe youll get some donations to cover it 😛
unreal quarry
😮
green edge
don't be so surpised
vernal moth
I don't remember the amount, but I had like 15 ppl donate
green edge
there are quite a few pay-to-download plugins on spigot
now in that case it's mostly comodity
vernal moth
Hangar will hopefully have a way to encourage a pay for support model
slim nymph
damn i dont think i even got tht many mini lol
vernal moth
Lemme check
worn ember
inb4 hangar just dies and you just wasted weeks for nothing
green edge
i'm guessing you can bump that number a bit if you do server requested features
vernal moth
12 ppl, I didn't filter on message just counted the transactions in that week, lol
green edge
or alternatively just features catered to the large players in the business
slim nymph
well sorta
vernal moth
And not small donations either, it was pretty flattered
slim nymph
I fixed problems that impacted a server that benefits everyone
vernal moth
Sadly not everyone left their name so I couldn't even thank
slim nymph
and said server donated for it
worn ember
ive had someone donate $60 to me cuz i was a "nice guy" in the rtp support discord xD
slim nymph
well mini did do more of it than me, so thats fine with me
he took off work for it lol ; ;
i had to work still
vernal moth
I take any excuse to take off work, lol
slim nymph
I now have Sponsors setup too, so def nicer if people stay subbed and no fees
vernal moth
I still have 19 days, + 29 hours of plus hours, plus 6 hours of overtime
slim nymph
thats my biggest tip to all server owners.... use subscriptions for your premium perks, not one time purchases!
vernal moth
Do you have GitHub sponsor matching aikar? Cuase that's huge
slim nymph
nah sadly i joined to late 😦
vernal moth
GitHub is doubling the sponsor money for me, so it's actually quite the amount
green edge
what is their sponsor pay?
woven otter
How does github sponsors work exactly
slim nymph
its like patreon, w/o fees
woven otter
O
worn ember
mini, wanna take a day off to help me refactor rtp kappa?
slim nymph
MS/GitHub is covering all cost for the middleman
vernal moth
I wanna take a day off for so many things dragon
woven otter
That's kinda cool
worn ember
cosmic raft
has three sponsors on GitHub <3
worn ember
god last week was a killer, way too hot do be productive
green edge
paper should start selling factions jars haha
slim nymph
I only have 1 😦 though hopefully this update will boost it 😛 but hey if you wanna sub now .... 😉
steel pulsar
i dont have any money
void void
i also wanted to mention that (i just tested it) the console spam does not happen on spigot 1.16.2 when i create the world and teleport to it as soon as i create it
worn ember
i'd gladly donate to paper monthly, but i sadly dont have a steady income
slim nymph
@void void because spigot doesnt have that feature lol
woven otter
Should work on more commissions dark
void void
so sync chunks does help
vernal moth
Whenever I see servers betting 30k on server lists spots I feel like they could at least consider to throw a bone to all the devs working for free
slim nymph
.... no
worn ember
maybe if those actually paid well
void void
...
minor badge
wait does paper have sponsors
void void
im confussed
golden gust
Spigot doesn't have the incremental warnings, it'll just be quiet
woven otter
maybe if those actually paid well
@worn ember wait werent you in that team tho
twin lagoon
@minor badge 😔
vernal moth
No proxi, but individual ppl have
green edge
the idea behind wasting 30k at server lists is that it has some ROI
slim nymph
what your seeing is "early warnings" that your server is lagging
minor badge
.g github aikar
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
yeah but its just a developer support developer kinda team, and occasional commissions
green edge
now to be honest from what we found it's not really that beneficial to pay for top slots
minor badge
thank u xD
slim nymph
did you really have to google my github lol
woven otter
yeah but its just a developer support developer kinda team, and occasional commissions
@worn ember F
vernal moth
If you got 30k to spend on ads, you got 100 bucks for the software that enables you to make the money in the first place
slim nymph
agreed 😦
twin lagoon
mmmm
slim nymph
its insane people are spending that much
twin lagoon
this sounds like minesuperior
worn ember
but meh server position
twin lagoon
@left yacht hello ryan has MS donated to paper
slim nymph
like, fucking hell pay some people instead
vernal moth
Like, idk about others, but for me it's not even about the amount, it's just the fact that they do show some form of appreciation
steel pulsar
at the capacity of the bigger servers, it's no longer about the game
slim nymph
I thought 2k was insane for a bid
worn ember
40k thats half a year of work
minor badge
am hereby sponsor 😎
slim nymph
ty 😛
vernal moth
Paper should put server spots on the download page and auction them 😂 😂
marble lark
10/10 Mob physics
formal turret
i remember looking at the slots last summer and 1 server was spending like 50k a month
that's a lot of money man
cosmic raft
@vernal moth lets not :p
worn ember
my parents barely make that much in a year lol
vernal moth
Don't you like some nice animated gifs tho?!
steel pulsar
just lock paper behind a subscription program
cosmic raft
what proxi?
minor badge
domain!
twin lagoon
.g .ke tld
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
twin lagoon
Second-level domains
Second-level domains, under which domains are registered at the third level, are:
twin lagoon
uwu
worn ember
.g 3rd level domain
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.get.realtor/faq/what-are-second-level-and-third-level-domain-names -- What are second-level and third-level domain names?: "A third-level domain name is the part of a domain name or website address that comes before the second-level domain name. Third-level domains are..."
cosmic raft
yes you can
twin lagoon
you can buy .uk actually
potent fossil
wow
cosmic raft
lol
minor badge
@cosmic raft wanna go to prom with me 🥺
potent fossil
wtf
twin lagoon
hot
minor badge
😔
cosmic raft
no proxi sorry
twin lagoon
simple how's k3s
potent fossil
minor badge
what FRICK
cosmic raft
already going with city and michael
minor badge
birb
potent fossil
birb
twin lagoon
🥺
worn ember
feet pics
minor badge
i haven't committed to birbfetcher in a while
unreal quarry
its an australian bird 😮
potent fossil
commit now, it was supposed to be GenericRedditImageFetcherWithBlacklistingCapability by now
potent fossil
well, i need to drive all the way down to this other city, drop my laptop off for repair then drive all the way back