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void void
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icJukeBox cant do that

limber knotBOT
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if you use Minecraft Noteblock Studio you can convert midi to a noteblock file icJukebox can use

lapis marlin
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duckduckgo > google tbh

void void
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Automatic music?

limber knotBOT
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google is a verb in most cases nowadays

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like plays automatically? icJukebox can do that

lapis marlin
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LOL

unique snow
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CraftBook lets you play a midi directly, FYI.

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No conversion needed.

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Though it has a whole lot more to it.

lapis marlin
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BRO A FUCKING MOSQUITO BIT BETWEEN MY FINGERS

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OWWW

potent fossil
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Yo, can you chill

limber knotBOT
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bro String.toLowerCase()

lapis marlin
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sorry

cosmic raft
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can you please not scream, and also please change your nickname to something not screaming as well

void void
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like plays automatically? icJukebox can do that
jukebox can?

cosmic raft
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thank you

slim nymph
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latest 1.16.2 build prob ready for release - note there is a NEW issue of the "MapLike" data conversions spam.

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-197883

UNSURE OF DATA INTEGRITY - Please test and ensure your Villages, Pillager Outposts and Bastions are converting from old versions correctly. This includes 1.16.1 too.

limber knotBOT
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icjukebox can play music as soon as you join us

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ys*

lapis marlin
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can you please not scream, and also please change your nickname to something not screaming as well
@cosmic raft I apologize, it was my actual account's name

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I thought I was missing access to change names

static badge
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general is the wrong place for that?

lapis marlin
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lol

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Spottedleaf your time has come

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he has been summoned by the "1.16.2 ready"

potent fossil
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prob doesn't want to make an announcement, just get testing from whoever is here

limber knotBOT
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pin

potent fossil
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idk doe

slim nymph
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@static badge not really, help wasnt the right place for it before

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this is best place really

static badge
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wat about announcements

slim nymph
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its not fully out yet, will do that when it is lol

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this is temp "help test"

unique snow
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Because it's not officially released yet

lapis marlin
potent fossil
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prob doesn't want to make an announcement, just get testing from whoever is here
so dis

void void
slim nymph
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there its in the 1.16.2 channel

limber knotBOT
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les gooo

void void
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ok better

slim nymph
limber knotBOT
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btw Aikar you can close pinned issues

lapis marlin
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ill check it out uwu

limber knotBOT
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theyll stay pinned

unique snow
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That's probably the most useful part of pinned issues

limber knotBOT
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people use it as a notice board but it adds to the issue count unless they close it

unique snow
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Well if you have a serious issue with lots of people asking and it's fixed, you can make sure it stays pinned for a few weeks so people actually use the fixed version I mean.

limber knotBOT
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yeah in this case it's about dupes

viral hornet
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now I don't want to assume anything

limber knotBOT
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๐Ÿ‘๏ธโ€๐Ÿ—จ๏ธ

viral hornet
unique snow
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Yep, very similar logic.

cosmic raft
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its at the top too camm

viral hornet
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omg hahahha

viral hornet
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I would test it, but I have a big pregenerated world which is like ~60gb, so i aint gonna back that up ๐Ÿ˜…

slim nymph
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i back up my 120gb world

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incremental backups!

viral hornet
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Yes but I'm Australian

vagrant niche
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backups lol

unique snow
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Shouldn't it be something like this Chew? "I upgraded, and it broke everything, I don't have a backup, why did you do this!?!??!?!?!"

viral hornet
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Don't forget out SuPeR FaSt internet sucks ass.

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lmao chew

cosmic raft
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let me make it extra clear

unique snow
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Do you have space to 7z your world Camm? lol

vagrant niche
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well

unique snow
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I'd never upgrade a world without backing up.

viral hornet
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please unreact then rereact ๐Ÿฅบ

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And I do backups, but this is just a new world and I'm actually running low on space ๐Ÿ˜…

limber knotBOT
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hear me out

vagrant niche
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Life without risk is a life not worth living

limber knotBOT
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everything you do has a risk

unique snow
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I mean.. what's more painful.. backing up and everything goes fine.. or not backing up and everything goes to shit?

viral hornet
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Whoever removed my ๐Ÿ”™ reaction

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you're a terrible person

vagrant niche
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๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

cosmic raft
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๐Ÿ‡ญ ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡พ ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ฝ โ— ๐Ÿ‡ญ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ผ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡พ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฉ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ฉ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡พ โ“

vagrant niche
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๐Ÿ‡ฉ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ญ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ซ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ โ•

unique snow
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Thought we were not doing yelling.

vagrant niche
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sucks to be an irc user

viral hornet
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๐Ÿ‡ผ ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡พ ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ ๐Ÿ‡ฏ ๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡จ ๐Ÿ‡ญ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ ๐Ÿ‡ถ ๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡พ

unique snow
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So now we have a secret way to talk without Chew being able to tell what we're saying.

potent fossil
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my god

cosmic raft
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lol chew

void void
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๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ต ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ผ

viral hornet
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๐Ÿ‡พ ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡จ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡พ

cosmic raft
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even my mobile irc client can see it

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your client sucks

limber knotBOT
void void
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:c

potent fossil
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windows hexchat

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im judging you

vagrant niche
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There's only one theme that matters, dark theme

cosmic raft
merry talon
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and none of them are nearly as good as either of discord's

unique snow
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Doesn't have a dark theme. How sad. Only midnight.

limber knotBOT
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Ash is most similar to Discord

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Midnight is just pure black

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like dark mode should be

unique snow
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Would be a bit hard to read if it's all just black.

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๐Ÿ˜

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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that is win 10 hexchat, right?

limber knotBOT
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that isIRCCloud, I do not and will not ever use windows

potent fossil
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oh no wait

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yea

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you use irccloud lmao

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even worse :(

limber knotBOT
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lmao

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u just jealous i have all the ircv3 features

potent fossil
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I believe thelounge does as well

unique snow
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Does IRC have cross signing of any kind?

potent fossil
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I don't think so

limber knotBOT
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irc E2E when

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(discord E2E when too)

potent fossil
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XMPP doe

unique snow
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Never on discord prob

vagrant niche
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KIRCL v3 features wen

unique snow
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Matrix has E2E cross signing

potent fossil
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Starfleet IRL when

vagrant niche
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not on our lifetime

potent fossil
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:(

left swift
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timelife

potent fossil
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is this what a proper sleep sched is like

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its 9:25pm, and im tired af

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or maybe just food coma idk

ancient bolt
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either proper sleep sched or you're just old

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or depressed

potent fossil
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what about all 3

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lmao

ancient bolt
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Yeah that's me on all accounts but also sleep apnea

potent fossil
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I'm pretty sure I have that, but have not been diagnosed yet. Haven't been able to get a new doctor all 2020

ancient bolt
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literally same

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I mean I could probably see a doctor

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but feels weird during covid

potent fossil
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I can see "a" doctor. But not a doctor that has my file and that I see regularly. Like I can go to a clinic.

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But I'm not into that

ancient bolt
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I actually don't have a PCP right now

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need to find one

potent fossil
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Neither, mine passed away end of 2019 right before covid

ancient bolt
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damn

potent fossil
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Yea, interesting timing. She had been sick a loooong time though. She was so awesome.

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Ah well.

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She delivered me as a baby

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Alright I'm gonna read for a bit then go to bed. Night people

storm crest
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Wait is 1.16.2 for PaperMC out

potent fossil
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For testing only. Do not run it in production.

storm crest
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Wait wdym

potent fossil
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You can download it to TEST IT ONLY.

limber knotBOT
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if you have to ask "wdym" then no

potent fossil
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Do not run it for live players.

storm crest
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Oh

potent fossil
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Correct, Chew has it right.

limber knotBOT
storm crest
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So I should not switch my whole server to 1.16.2 Paper

potent fossil
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Correct.

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It is not out for that yet.

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It is only out for testing.

limber knotBOT
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you can but definitely shouldnt. if you want stable just use viaversion

potent fossil
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I don't even bother saying can because that means yes.

storm crest
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Do u know when it will be okay to switch my whole server

potent fossil
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No.

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

potent fossil
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It won't be today.

limber knotBOT
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ent?

potent fossil
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ear nose throat

limber knotBOT
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ah

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fun

viral hornet
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What for barty? If you don't mind me asking

serene bolt
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I visit an ENT yearly because I get horrible hard plugs of earwax that push against my eardrums from wearing headphones 24/7. I also suffer from ear infections alllllll the time

viral hornet
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Damn that's shitty

limber knotBOT
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woah big words

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it's always weird hearing people's personal lives

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i kinda forget people exist ๐Ÿ˜ณ

unique snow
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Doctors here are doing a no waiting room thing, you arrive, call them, they call you to come in.

potent fossil
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We're not people. We're just bots on the internet.

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We're programmed to think we're people.

unique snow
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So you stay in your are until you get a call on your mobile.

serene bolt
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all of our personal lives suck, we just come to discord to ignore them and talk about minecraft and drama instead to make ourselves feel better :)

hollow latch
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Hi

potent fossil
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wow i feel hella called out pure

limber knotBOT
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yeah good call

hollow latch
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Like my php?

limber knotBOT
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thats why i never go into personal details i don't wanna be that person who's always depressing lmao

hollow latch
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Pfp?

potent fossil
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whys pure gotta fuck us up like that like one two punch KO

limber knotBOT
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php?

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what php?

hollow latch
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Pfp

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Profile picture

potent fossil
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Honestly, it's annoying. But you do you

limber knotBOT
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wait i made that joke already

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thanks :3

potent fossil
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โ€œI slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy.โ€

Rabindranath Tagore

actually a very nice quote

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and with that, goodnight for real kiddos

prime pawn
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Do you reckon NVMe drives vs SSDs would do much difference in the way of hosting Minecraft servers?

potent fossil
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Yup.

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Okay actually closing this thing lmao, if I don't I won't sleep.

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Bye

prime pawn
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bai

limber knotBOT
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:))))

prime pawn
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;-;

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ah mk, was just curious

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What about 5000mb/s read 4400mb/s write difference? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I don't have a problem I was just curious .-.

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I'm pretty happy with my NVMe drive tho

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Hosting companies would probably charge like $150usd a month or more to use my pc xD

limber knotBOT
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use your pc or a pc with your specs

prime pawn
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pc with my specs of course lol my pc isn't in a datacenter and wouldn't have ๐Ÿ’ฉ Australian bandwidth

limber knotBOT
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wouldn what

prime pawn
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I'd never host a mc server here with it, only by colocating would I ever. Too few MC aussie players so most of my playerbase would just lag. Especially considering I only get 100mb/s upload and around 30 mb/s upload even though it's twice the average Australian speed, still slow compared to almost every other country

unique snow
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Actually I host one in Sydney. A few players from USA and Europe have said it's the least laggy server they've played on.

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Anecdotal, but you get the point.

prime pawn
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Wow, that's a shocker

unique snow
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Yeah surprised me too.

prime pawn
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What kinda servers have they been playing on? XD

unique snow
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I'm Australian, and pay for it, so only reason was so I could get a nice connection.

prime pawn
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Wouldn't they get almost 200ms latency?

warm anchor
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200-230

prime pawn
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Especially the EU players damn

unique snow
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The guy in the Netherlands was getting between 200 and 250 I think he said, USA players were getting about 180 I think.

warm anchor
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I think if a player has shit Pc they wouldnโ€™t notice lag anyway coz lag is just every moment they play

prime pawn
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๐Ÿ˜‚

unique snow
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Yes, if they run a Protato it would be indistinguishable.

unique snow
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I think players are more likely to notice if the server itself is laggy, which may be why.

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A lot of people keep adding plugins until their servers run like shit, whereas I'm generally pretty careful and slow with rolling out new plugins.

warm anchor
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Yeah the network lag only stuff like mob attack the most noticeable.

unique snow
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Yeah that'd make sense.

median patio
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I have a seriously asymmetric network, will my server need more on the upload or download?

unique snow
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So for PVP/Competitive probably not a good idea.

limber knotBOT
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ew why did it post twice

ancient bolt
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because there are 2 urls

unique snow
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I'd guess server would need more upload, but not certain myself.

median patio
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chew, be aware user-controlled bots are against discord ToS.

unique snow
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Typically that's how it goes with game servers, however there are exceptions.

limber knotBOT
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?????

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whole lotta misinformation there

median patio
ancient bolt
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yeah chew is fake

limber knotBOT
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So am I

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  1. This is a webhook (click, there's no bot profile). 2) As far as I know, user controlled BOT accounts are fine. You're thinking selfbots, which is a BOT on a USER account, which is not explicitly against ToS but can result in account termination just as saying "furries bad" around the wrong people is
median patio
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whelp, you are correct

unique snow
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I'm pretty sure that's not not even in the ToS.

ancient bolt
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As stated earlier we also even have discord staff in this server so

limber knotBOT
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Correct, there is nothing saying "selfbotting is forbidden"

ancient bolt
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I think we're okay

median patio
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I got it mixed up with selfbots, super sorry

limber knotBOT
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However, they do clearly say it can result in account termination, but, do note that they can terminate anyone's account for any reason with or without notice

unique snow
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They don't even mention selfbots in the ToS.

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bot occurs twice, and neither instance is referring to that.

median patio
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Forget i said anything

unique snow
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develop, distribute, or publicly inform other members of "auto" software programs, "macro" software programs or other "cheat utility" software program or applications in violation of the applicable license agreements; or

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That's the only thing I could find related.

ancient bolt
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Yeah I think we've settled it guys

unique snow
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I was more looking at it because I was interested honestly.

void void
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y chew always on waiting room

median patio
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has anyone tested 1.16.2?

limber knotBOT
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waiting to be moved to the spicy taco lovers channel

unique snow
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He's waiting for Paper to support MC 1.19. Speaking of, 1.19 wen. ๐Ÿ˜ก

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Sarcasm obviously.

limber knotBOT
unique snow
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Oh that's cool.

limber knotBOT
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12 GB in 32 mins, not bad

void void
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Bruuh I have nutella but not bread

warm anchor
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Put in milk

void void
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maybe w oreos

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Confusion

limber knotBOT
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this is why i don't us ejs

untold copper
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my tank

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/โ–Œ ๏ธปโ•ฆโ•ค-- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
โ–‘โ–‘โ–‘โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆ ]โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„
โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–‚
Iโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆ]
โ—ฅโŠ™โ–ฒโŠ™โ–ฒโŠ™โ–ฒโŠ™โ–ฒโŠ™โ–ฒโŠ™โ–ฒโ—ค

limber knotBOT
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ok spam

worn pasture
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people love when you post stupid memes in every server

ancient bolt
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and yeah will definitely be using mojang mappings now that that's cleared up. Sticking with the tooling that I've already built out for the moment, will implement that stuff later

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going to bed though

quasi valley
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Awesome ๐Ÿ’™

limber knotBOT
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epic

untold copper
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people love when you post stupid memes in every server
@worn pasture ty UwU

limber knotBOT
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tbf it's better than having nitro

untold copper
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yea

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it is

tbf it's better than having nitro

limber knotBOT
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why did you remove mention

untold copper
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?

untold copper
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coos it didnt ping

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and i didnt want it to

limber knotBOT
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it did (see how it's highlighted)

untold copper
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ooh

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btw how u using that web integration

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or whateva

limber knotBOT
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ez

untold copper
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hoW

limber knotBOT
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running inspection on those 16000+ files

untold copper
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?

limber knotBOT
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i just clicked Inspect code and clicked ok

untold copper
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wat

left swift
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Gotta jus git gud

untold copper
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another emoji

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(า‚`_ยด)
<,๏ธปโ•ฆโ•คโ”€ า‰
/๏น‹\

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dieeee

left swift
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Wow ur so talented

limber knotBOT
untold copper
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(-_-)
<,๏ธปโ•ฆโ•คโ”€ า‰
/๏น‹\

left swift
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Can u make me one

limber knotBOT
untold copper
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lol just google ascii art

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XD

left swift
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W8 ur an art thief?

untold copper
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lol maybe

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there are generators for this stuff

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so

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yea

left swift
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CrayZee

untold copper
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โ•ญโ•ฎโ•ฑโ•ญโ”ณโ”โ•ฎโ•ญโ”โ”ณโ”โ•ฎโ•ญโ”โ”ณโ”โ•ฎโ•ญโ”โ•ฎ
โ”ƒโ”ƒโ•ฑโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ•ฐโ•ฏโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ•ฐโ•ฏโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ•ฐโ•ฏโ”ƒโ”ƒ
โ”ƒโ•ฐโ”โ•ฏโ”ƒโ•ญโ•ฎโ•ญโ•ฎโ”ƒโ•ญโ•ฎโ•ญโ•ฎโ”ƒโ•ญโ•ฎโ•ญโ•ฎโ”ƒ
โ”ƒโ•ญโ”โ•ฎโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒ
โ”ƒโ”ƒโ•ฑโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒโ”ƒ
โ•ฐโ•ฏโ•ฑโ•ฐโ”ปโ•ฏโ•ฐโ•ฏโ•ฐโ”ปโ•ฏโ•ฐโ•ฏโ•ฐโ”ปโ•ฏโ•ฐโ•ฏโ•ฐโ•ฏ

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ok ima stop now

untold copper
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lel

left swift
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He writing in 1D

untold copper
limber knotBOT
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2/5th done

left swift
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If you think about it you're only 4/10th done

untold copper
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?

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wdyms

limber knotBOT
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halfway

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already got 5-digit stuff lol

untold copper
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i dont get it but ๐Ÿ‘Œ

limber knotBOT
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imean i said what i was doing ๐Ÿ‘€ you were too busy spamming tho soooo

unique snow
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Deleting chunks associated with the raider outposts fixes the 1.16.2 spam (expected).

vernal bone
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Hello! What is the best server software for pocket edition?

waxen panther
mortal zinc
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#742779128868241550 looks like a better suggestion than I'd probably ever have to keep users abreast of the latest version

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that's really cool

void void
viral hornet
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Damn

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Got me

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@twin lagoon ๐Ÿฅบ

mortal zinc
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even worse, if that meme has psychological consequences of clicking it

twin lagoon
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hi camm

viral hornet
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It does

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That's why I tagged michael

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so he can click it ||and be gay|| with me

worn pasture
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i already know smh shrek

unique snow
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Looks like the new spammy error affects villages in general, even without an outpost in the area. Rip.

smoky python
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What would u do

twin lagoon
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bugatti since it's a shit car

smoky python
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WHAT

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Its not a shitcar

grave oxide
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Proof it

mental meadow
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oh no, I'm gay, that sounds bad ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Gonna have to ask my wife what she thinks of that

unreal quarry
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inb4 wife says "yay! sharing!"

#

runs away

mental meadow
#

i love sharing

split crown
#

What impact will this have?

twin lagoon
#

we can use mojang mappings over shitty spigot ones

vernal moth
#

We have been pushing mojang to do that behind the scenes for months

unreal quarry
#

:O!

#

i didnt think that was ever going to happen

vernal moth
#

Btw, my "MS legal takes 8-10 months per request" still holds strong

twin lagoon
#

it was all thanks to bernie

vernal moth
#

Yeah, idk how often I posted that, lmao

mental meadow
#

good job Mini

vernal moth
#

Ms paint meme right there

limber knotBOT
#

Reminder for DiscordBot: autosmelt

unreal quarry
#

@spice finch ^

mental meadow
#

Mini, do you know what they mean with you can't distribute them unmodified? What does that imply?

quasi valley
#

you probably shouldn't just upload the mappings file here lol

minor badge
#

but who knows if complete & unmodified also entails our patched where we'd use their names in them

mental meadow
#

Thats what I mean

#

Like the wording is better, but still not 100% clear

quasi valley
#

dinnerbone specifically mentioned projects using code with the mappings

tawdry coyote
#

To me, I feel like they meant do not distribute unmodified mapped jars
but ๐Ÿคท.
Wouldn't make sense to not distribute the mappings file since that's publicly available

mental meadow
#

He mentioned it, but that doesn't matter unless it also reflects in the legal text

quasi valley
#

you also can't redistribute the server jar, even tho it's publically available, because you... shouldn'T

finite wave
#

So you guys saying i actually need a backup of my worlds? Fucking hell

quasi valley
#

I don't see where using a very small fraction of the mappings inside of patches equals to "redistributing mappings complete and unmodified", that should be pretty clear even to armchair lawyers like us

#

anyways, good thing we aren't lawyers and other people are already on it ๐Ÿ‘€

vital mural
ashen cliff
#

Adds 50 plugins from some random ZIP found on Youtube.

VIAVERSION BROKE MY SERVER!

mental meadow
#

So you guys saying i actually need a backup of my worlds? Fucking hell
no just write down the coordinates of every single block on a piece of paper

ashen cliff
#

Just make a schematic file, you could save SOO much space that way.

marble lark
#

Looks like the new spammy error affects villages in general, even without an outpost in the area. Rip.
@unique snow What error?

unique snow
marble lark
#

ah I see

#

no just write down the coordinates of every single block on a piece of paper
@mental meadow 3 years later when you almost finish writing it down someone loads new ungenerated chunks ๐Ÿ˜‰

minor badge
#

@twin lagoon vibecat

quasi valley
#

wow that cat is hella vibing

limber knotBOT
#

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twin lagoon
#

i found @vernal moth

vernal moth
quasi valley
#

dafuq

vernal moth
#

i found @vernal moth
@twin lagoon Wahrsteiner ๐Ÿคฎ

spice finch
#

What a cute boar

mental meadow
#

Mini should I send you some Puntigamer from Graz? ๐Ÿ˜„

minor badge
#

@mental meadow uwu

quasi valley
#

bieriges Bier

twin lagoon
#

@quasi valley viaversion is fix i have not gotten any error so far

quasi valley
mental meadow
#

@minor badge wuwu

limber knotBOT
#

Nan poisoning isnt a thing in java, is it?

prime pawn
#

Haiwaii

limber knotBOT
#

just read a really interesting def con presentation where somebody managed to speed hack because they NaN poisoned the server checks that calculate delta time, lol

floral ridge
#

hello

#

i am new here

#

๐Ÿ‘€

prime pawn
#

I mainly come here for the memes

#

And arguments/debates

#

Like how pineapple belongs on pizza because it does

limber knotBOT
#

I come here for the cute bots

floral ridge
#

Can play with my minecraft server๏ผŸ๐Ÿ‘€

quasi valley
#

ยฟ

floral ridge
#

Ummmโ€ฆโ€ฆ

#

play my server๐Ÿ‘€

#

;-;

ashen cliff
prime pawn
#

No one wants to play your server

quasi valley
#

I also don't want to play with your server

prime pawn
#

You know you do ;O

floral ridge
#

;-;

prime pawn
#

Damn this page I found has some funny memes

quasi valley
#

the Spigot forums?

prime pawn
floral ridge
#

creeper๏ผŸ

ashen cliff
#

Nah man.

floral ridge
#

so we back in the mine

mental meadow
#

no

floral ridge
#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

Ummm

#

again๏ผŸ

#

so bored nowโ€ฆโ€ฆ

frozen blade
#

How can I remove invisible armorstand?

mental meadow
#

minecraft:kill @e[type=Armorstand,distance=..5]

frozen blade
#

this will kill armorstands in a 5 blocks distance?

mental meadow
#

yes

frozen blade
#

ok, thx

mental meadow
#

it should

frozen blade
#

umm, it isn't working

spice finch
#

you sure its armorstand?

frozen blade
#

yes

spice finch
#

it has to work

#

you can try @e[distance=..5]

frozen blade
#

I made a plugin for a text > name the armorstand and make it invisible, but I set wrong text

spice finch
#

it'll kill every entity in 5 blocks from you

frozen blade
#

ok, i will try

#

nope

#

ok, I have it

#

/ebutcher armorstand 5

#

I have essentials on server

frigid shadow
#

could use fawe too,

frozen blade
#

?

mental meadow
#

no

marble lark
#

Fast Async World Edit

mental meadow
#

FAWE doesnt work with entities atm

marble lark
#

That's what it stands for

#

oh

mental meadow
marble lark
#

Official Mojang Mappings ftw

frigid shadow
#

FAWE doesnt work with entities atm
@mental meadow oh oops yea

spice finch
#

I'm not sure if you're allowed to upload it to github

marble lark
#

It's a private repo

ashen cliff
marble lark
#

Oops

#

Ah whatever I'll change it later

spice finch
marble lark
#

Although I assume it could be helpful for any Devs here though

#

Shame it's a big legal issue

mental meadow
#

just wait until tomorrow

spice finch
#

but it's currently one command to build source of server

marble lark
#

No I meant the mappings

#

The variable and method names are 100% accurate in this one

spice finch
#

Oh, ok

marble lark
#

I'm astounded at how the method I was looking for was in literal plain sight

#

But the mappings of every single other modding or server community got the name totally wrong

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.-.

vernal moth
#

No, you can deobfuscate mojang code with the mappings and upload it to GitHub....

marble lark
#

?

#

Well uh yeah I just did that?

vernal moth
#

Well, you can, it's a copyright infringement tho

#

You don't have the right to redistribute mojang code

marble lark
#

Hence why it's private

waxen panther
latent ibex
#

omg there's a kitten and swifie channel ๐Ÿ˜‚ this is the best server ever

unreal quarry
#

no. that stays in the swift channel

spice finch
#

(s)he can't post it there

#

it's limited to some rank

unreal quarry
#

wait for the role, then. the channels exist so everyone can mute them and forget about them

latent ibex
#

it says in the topic lol

#

sorry!

vestal jasper
cosmic raft
#

hallo

waxen panther
#

hallo

spice finch
cosmic raft
#
                .map(ใƒ„ -> {
                    if(ใƒ„ == null) {
                        return "null";
                    }
                    if(ใƒ„ instanceof Character) {
                        return "'" + ใƒ„ + "'";
                    }
                    if(ใƒ„ instanceof Number) {
                        return ใƒ„.toString();
                    }
                    return "\\"" + ใƒ„ + '"';
                })
#

have no fear

wide chasm
#

kashike, no

cosmic raft
#
        String แดฅ = "null";
        if(เฒ _เฒ  != null) {
            if((แดฅ = เฒ _เฒ .getClass().getCanonicalName()) == null) {
                แดฅ = เฒ _เฒ .getClass().getName();
            }
            if(แดฅ.startsWith("java.lang.")) {
                แดฅ = แดฅ.substring("java.lang.".length());
            }
        }
#

kashike yes

wide chasm
#

Don't waste your sanity for fancy variable names

#

Your sanity is more important

minor badge
#

why not

prime pawn
#

Rando question, but what rtx 2080 ti would you suggest for 4k gaming?

twin lagoon
#

uh

#

asus strix series or evga

minor badge
#

@twin lagoon help

prime pawn
#

hmm aight ty

minor badge
#

my entire 1.16.2 client just freezes when genning chunks

twin lagoon
#

f

minor badge
#

server is fine but client dies

unique snow
#

I noticed some odd lag, but wouldn't call it freezing

minor badge
#

Problematicโ„ข๏ธ

cosmic raft
#

looks fine

unique snow
#

Seems perfectly fine

latent ibex
#

lmao kashike, those variables. whyyyyy

cosmic raft
#

yes

spice finch
#

fancy variables

#

I should use emojis as variables in my plugins

twin lagoon
#

there's a jira report about that

minor badge
#

i guess time to check if this happens in singleplayer too

#

ah

#

heck

twin lagoon
twin lagoon
#

wtf why

minor badge
#

only an issue on servers

latent ibex
#

hahahaha

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basically brainfuck with emojis

spice finch
#

cpp preprocessor strong

cosmic raft
#

I don't need anything but plain java to make people cry over my code peepoHappy

minor badge
#

i don't even need to do anything unusual to make people cry over my kotlin peepoHappyLove

unique snow
#

Oh yea, that occurs for me on a superflat

minor badge
#

well i guess that concludes my testing as i can't play the game whatsoever like this

cosmic raft
#

please, try to understand how it works

minor badge
#

this isnt sooo bad

spice finch
#

ah yes, meaningful commits

void void
#

fuck, updated to macOS big sur

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nix stopped working

#

:(

cosmic raft
#

you have not found the good stuff then yet prox

minor badge
#

nor do i intend to

cosmic raft
#

read this line

spice finch
minor badge
#

i've gotta find out where it sends biome id then find out why it's -1

cosmic raft
#

its -1 because the biome does not exist in the registry

#

-1 means "unregistered"

minor badge
#

why doesnt it exist ๐Ÿ˜”

unique snow
#

I'm not getting the -1 error under any circumstance, but I'm getting the client lag

minor badge
#

ooh wait 1.16.2 is the version with the custom biome shit right?

unique snow
#

Only on superflat worlds though

#

Correct

minor badge
#

got it on a normal ass world, james

cosmic raft
#

yes prox

minor badge
#

bless mojang

cosmic raft
#

hi billy

unreal quarry
#

I'm loving the data driven biome stuff ^_^ I made my nether doubly tall

twin lagoon
#

hello cashicc

#

how is arch

cosmic raft
#

on windows

#

KDE Plasma is fucked

unreal quarry
#

Enjoy

shell vine
#

YOINK

minor badge
cosmic raft
#

time to see if you did it right billy :P

quasi valley
#

edited myself in there ๐Ÿ˜‚

unreal quarry
#

Probably not lol, but it looks right in game so I'm happy

unique snow
#

Ah that's cool

spice finch
#

"coordinate_scale": 8.0,

#

it means 1 block in nether = 8 in normal world?

quasi valley
#

yes

spice finch
#

and its configurable?

cosmic raft
#

yes

vernal moth
#

Interesting

worn ember
#

Good day sirs and sirsn't

quasi valley
#

hello aliven't

worn ember
#

i see what you did there

#

very clever

vernal moth
#

Uuhhhhj

#

This is nice

#

Immutable everything made easy

spice finch
#

just use kotlin

worn ember
#

every time someone says immutable i can hear my teacher say "STRINGS ARE IMMUTABLE"

#

he said that at least 5 times every class

cosmic raft
#

@worn ember strings are immutable

worn ember
quasi valley
#

hey ded, did you know this awesome fact?

#

that strings are immutable?

worn ember
#

ill block you

#

im traumatized

cosmic raft
#

it is understandable that he does say it a lot though

#

lots of people don't understand that they are

worn ember
#

i suppose

#

but i got it the first time

quasi valley
#

bur ur also special

worn ember
#

well unlike some of my classmates pepega

#

i'm probably one of the better java devs in my class but damn i cant for the life of me understand WPF and ASP

#

that shit is beyond me

#

so much random magic happening in the background

cosmic raft
#

what is "WPF"?

worn ember
#

its like the "better" windows forms

#

which uses XAML and databinding

#

and its so shite, cuz the error messages are useless most of the time

#

and intellisense barely understands the concept and you constantly need to rebuild to update the databinding

#

its just ugh

#

i mean, its nice, but also ugh

#

its nice when it works but its a nightmare to debug when it doesnt

waxen panther
worn ember
#

ive had 16 errors complaining about databinding and it not being defined properly (according to intellisense) turned out i just forgot to import something

#

in some completely unrelated class

#

and it was logged as one of the last errors so i kept looking at the issue as it was something to do with databinding kek

urban latch
#

Where is the download link for paper 1.16.2

spice finch
#

but it's unstable yet

minor badge
#

nooo :0

urban latch
#

I can't find it

twin lagoon
#

bruh

minor badge
#

if you can't find it, you shouldn't use it

zealous wedge
#

look harder

urban latch
#

I literally looked the whole page

twin lagoon
#

well

#

you didn't

frigid shadow
#

its just 1.16.1 -> 1.16.2, still bigger changes were made which make a few/lot of plugins not loading properly

urban latch
#

Lmao

minor badge
#

biome shit is somewhat fucked

#

afaik chunk gen and loading is also slow as shit

spice finch
#

who would guess performance will be more fucked after update z_pepelaugh2

urban latch
#

where is download link

twin lagoon
#

read

#

r e a d

frigid shadow
#

i dont know, my upgrade process of lobby world was fast/slow as usual

who would guess performance will be more fucked after update :z_pepelaugh2:
@spice finch

twin lagoon
#

forceupgrade?

frigid shadow
#

ye

twin lagoon
#

you don't do that

#

forceupgrade shouldn't be used

frigid shadow
#

oh

#

uh

waxen panther
#

Imagine reading

frigid shadow
#

what should i use tho

urban latch
#

Oh

twin lagoon
#

replacing the jar?

spice finch
#

broccolai where's your color

waxen panther
#

I unboosted

spice finch
waxen panther
#

Donโ€™t talk here much anymore

urban latch
#

U could have just said it was the discord link. Don't have to be suck stuck up pricks about it :p

twin lagoon
#

could've just

#

read the page

frigid shadow
#

replacing the jar?
@twin lagoon just replacing? why not forcing?

twin lagoon
#

lol

waxen panther
#

๐Ÿ˜  U could have just said it was the discord link. Don't have to be suck stuck up pricks about it :p ๐Ÿ˜ 

frigid shadow
#

@frigid shadow see pins in #paper-help
@twin lagoon i see, ty

#

but if u r using worldborders & pregeneration

#

wouldnt it be better to forceupgrade it?

twin lagoon
#

no

frigid shadow
#

mk

#

so would it be better to trim & regenerate or just replacing jar and doing nothing else?

twin lagoon
#

there's nothing to regen just replace the jar

frigid shadow
#

mkmk

#

but why is md5 recommending it?

zealous wedge
#

because he's md5

#

and he likes doing things badly

frigid shadow
#

lol

cedar spade
#

hard fork when

limber knotBOT
#

uwu

twin lagoon
#

anyone got any idea why users would be randomly disconnected for ReadTimeoutException every now and then?

#

when the servers are hosted on the same server

#

it makes no sense reee

quasi valley
#

had the great idea of seeing how long a few friends and me can last playing badminton outside in ~33ยฐC

#

if I don't come back, tell mikro he suks

finite wave
#

Heheh, i just found someone who posted his terms and conditions of a premium resource on spigot wiki, and I decided to add a condition which voids all the other conditions

#

I'm so funny.

worn ember
#

jan

#

plz

#

no bully

finite wave
#

I did notify him of the changes, let's see how many buy them under the new clauses

worn ember
#

lol

quick pasture
#

anyb experience with acf on velocity? xd

finite wave
#

ACF has a velo?

quick pasture
#

yes

finite wave
#

then it is prolly easy to use

vernal bronze
#

you know guys ive read the new 1.16.2 channel and im getting the feeling that they want us to make a backup of all worlds

finite wave
#

just do it like you usually do

quick pasture
#

Well, it seems like ACF on velocity doesn't register the command if the command is already in use, is there a way to "force" command registrations like on bukkit?

#

oh well this is actually a simple PR

worn ember
#

asking acf questions about velocity in paper thonkeng

finite wave
#

fuck you

quick pasture
#

acf,paper,velocity

#

is all minecraft

worn ember
#

ok and?

void void
#

isn't it cool, ded?

#

BE MORE RESPECTFUL YOU NUTSACK

wide chasm
#

Kenny still isn't back.

#

Mikro, you suck.

void void
#

no u

worn ember
#

small pp

void void
#

ded pp

worn ember
#

๐Ÿ˜ข

viral hornet
worn ember
#

gUZ pl0S help, me roblox no werk

void void
#

spam alt + f4 and enter. @worn ember

#

universal solution for all problems

limber knotBOT
#

uwu i love it

#

(also saw that one in the #yarn channel lol)

cosmic raft
#

heh

limber knotBOT
#

how many cat photos to get mojang to use those names

void void
#

the more i look at that picture

#

the worse it gets

worn ember
#

stop looking

twin lagoon
#

that is fucking horrible

#

where can i get it

#

anyone got any idea why users would be randomly disconnected for ReadTimeoutException every now and then?

#

naturally everything is fixed with a paper upstream update

#

after 2 hours of poking around

worn ember
#

haha dum dum

latent valve
#

look just fine

hallow swallow
#

what can happen

#

updating to 1.16.2

worn ember
#

shit can break pork

trim steeple
#

hey guys uh

#

Ensure you have a backup of all worlds before starting your server with 1.16.2 builds

finite wave
#

Like

#

Ehm it is mentioned a lot there

worn ember
#

i think that was the joke

#

ffs i cant login to my jenkins account to fix jenkins kek

peak ginkgo
#

@worn ember Apache host?

worn ember
#

nginx

#

its redirecting to 127.0.0.1 and throwing ssl errors

#

lul

trim steeple
#

@finite wave have you ensured you have a backup of all worlds before starting your server with 1.16.2 builds?

peak ginkgo
#

proxy_set_header Host $host; in your nginx config should be it

trim steeple
#

because you should ensure you have a backup of all worlds before starting your server with 1.16.2 builds.

worn ember
#

ill try that

peak ginkgo
#

unironically i need to do dev on 1.16.2 so let me just... make a new server folder

worn ember
#

i just let everything break on my dev servers, i dont care xD

#

world corruption? just delete it lol

peak ginkgo
#

also a good idea

#

I just need to have NMS handy

worn ember
#

fukin hell i forgot where i put that config

peak ginkgo
#
/d/paper (progress/1.16.2)
$ ./paper j
``` ![pensivemove](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/702602123048648825.webp?size=128 "pensivemove")
wide chasm
#

I just create a new server for every update. Even if something's broken, it won't matter much, cause next update I'll start fresh.

worn ember
#

and break something else

wide chasm
#

Yes, but then the next update I'll start fresh again ๐Ÿ™‚

peak ginkgo
#

I like spawning in my forest, something pretty to look at while my command outputs the wrong data

worn ember
#

man how do people on linux remember where they put stuff?

#

i cant even find my nginx configs

ashen cliff
#

find / | grep "whereismydamnfile"

#

Daily.

peak ginkgo
#

i also got good at guessing

worn ember
#

imagine if you had a file explorer right

ashen cliff
#

X11 forward one.

worn ember
#

thats actually a godsent krusic

#

forgot about the find command

ashen cliff
#

I usually use it to find outdated ViaVersions on my setup. kekwhyper

worn ember
#

noice

#

oh

#

maybe actually reading it instead of trying to execute it might help lul

trim steeple
#

yeah I never change my server world

peak ginkgo
#

cat !!

mossy vessel
#

Do you run a CI for 1 (public) project firethink

worn ember
#

yes

peak ginkgo
#

nah gh actions at that point

trim steeple
#

idk how people can just constantly change out their worlds all the time

peak ginkgo
#

oh you mean dark

worn ember
#

nothing wrong with learning how to use it

peak ginkgo
#

disabling nether and end

#

then deleting world whenever it'd be funny

#

disabling nether and end
also good for startup times, less stuff to worry abt

worn ember
#

i feel bad for any public server running 1.16.x

trim steeple
#

qhy?

worn ember
#

it takes like 10 seconds for end chunks to load on my test server

trim steeple
#

works on my machine

worn ember
#

well generating them

#

loading isnt really an issue

trim steeple
#

I had a guy fly to 50k in the end in and hour or something and it was fine

worn ember
#

when testing rtp in the end you just float there for like 10 seconds then some chunks appear xD

#

@peak ginkgo was that in the server section that i had to put that?

peak ginkgo
#

ye

trim steeple
#

ffs

worn ember
#

aight

trim steeple
#

flint and steel looked like shears in this texture pack

#

and I went to shear some sheep

worn ember
#

yeah that didnt fix it

#

unless cloudflare is caching this

granite salmon
#

it takes like 10 seconds for end chunks to load on my test server
sounds like a you-problem

worn ember
#

except its not

#

works fine for other worlds

#

and its not like my pc is a potato either

granite salmon
#

the end is the fastest biome

wide chasm
#

I'm having issues generating end chunks on 1.16.2, so possibly related?

granite salmon
#

well don't use 1.16.2 smh

wide chasm
#

It's a dev server anyway, so whatever

worn ember
#

eh idk it was just super slow on 1.16.1

wide chasm
#

Oh 1.16.1, then probably not related

worn ember
#

the ram is wrong tho

granite salmon
#

i run servers on much worse hardware than that

#

and it is fine

wide chasm
#

Well, there's your problem /s

the ram is wrong

peak ginkgo
#

nice monitors

worn ember
#

my monitors are just random ones haha

peak ginkgo
#

yeah i can tell :^)

worn ember
#

by the time i get money to buy a second one they dont make thme anymore

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so i end up buying different ones

twin lagoon
peak ginkgo
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tru

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didnt mean to send that here, but its still valid

slim nymph
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or you trying to just install to maven?

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./paper p && mvn clean install is better for that

worn ember
slim nymph
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jenkins are you dumb, stupid, or dumb, huh?

mossy vessel
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more ded

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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works for me behind nginx

mossy vessel
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Probs broke something else by now lul

worn ember
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^^

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its my reverse proxy thats fucked i think

limber knotBOT
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why are you including the server port in teh Host header?

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interesting, they say that on the jenkins wiki thonk

worn ember
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i mean im just copy pasting at this point

limber knotBOT
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also only difference to mine is the port on Host, that you proxy_redirect to https and the X-SSH-Endpoint header (I don't use that, lol)

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I wonder what the actual impact of that issue is

worn ember
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monkas not actually complaining now

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i dont think i even changed anything tho

peak ginkgo
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@slim nymph I need the NMS package(s) for 1.16.2 and paper j is the only way I know how to make that happen

tall goblet
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not authorized

slim nymph
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@peak ginkgo i didnt think jar installed it, but what i said is better, its faster. jar is only intended to be used for distribution of paper. you dont need paperclip for dev purposes

peak ginkgo
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huh, neat

slim nymph
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jar just runs the command i said + builds paperclip, but PC has nothing to do with dev lol

void void
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How does spoiler messages look like on irc

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||pee pee||

limber knotBOT
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dependson the client

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the bot sends it as black text on black background xD

void void
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tf

mossy vessel
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||test||

limber knotBOT
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the question is, does it convert the other way around too?

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apparently not :S

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but that might be the channel filtering out color code alltogether for me xD

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too bad

warm anchor
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So Mojang fixed the first error by replacing it with another error KEKW

worn ember
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phoenix, i fixed it, idk what was wrong but i just set up ssl in the process and now it works

cosmic raft
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goodness

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this is what I call express

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my package went from being in germany on the 11th to in my city today

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in canada

worn ember
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yes, planes go pretty fast

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plane go brrr

mossy vessel
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What did you order from here? ๐Ÿ‘€

worn ember
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inb4 plane

cosmic raft
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something

mossy vessel
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Probs smuggling some goods in

ancient bolt
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he ordered love

worn ember
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white powder in paper boxes

mossy vessel
warm anchor
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Thatโ€™s some premium baking soda if you gotta express ship it like that

worn ember
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do build numbers restart after a version upgrade? or do they just keep on going (according to standards)

mossy vessel
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I never bothered deleting/changing them

limber knotBOT
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what do you mean by "version upgrade"?

worn ember
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going from like 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1

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and then whatever build number

limber knotBOT
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jenkins has no concept of versions

unique snow
mossy vessel
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That's up to you how you want to handle your build numbers

worn ember
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yeah ig it doesnt make sense to reset them

lavish nova
vernal moth
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Lombok broke, what else is new?

worn ember
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hangar hopefully?

ancient bolt
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Lombok users beg and cry at jetbrains constantly for them to natively support it

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makes no sense to me

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the lombok plugin is bad

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that's all there is to it

wide chasm
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I mean, isn't that one of the main reasons people dislike Lombok? Frequent breakages in IDEs?

worn ember
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.lombok

limber knotBOT
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[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

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imagine updating your perfectly working IDE ๐Ÿ‘€

worn ember
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lol

potent fossil
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morning

vernal moth
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It's also the fact that it requires you to install something to make the code work

worn ember
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i really like .2 so far tho

vernal moth
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So its a big hurdle to contribute

ancient bolt
limber knotBOT
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sounds like kotlin

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runs

worn ember
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it just asked me to install lombok for the project that uses it i think

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might have dont it manually, dont remember

potent fossil
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wtf

void void
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kotlin breaks rarely like this though

limber knotBOT
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you don't need to install it, it will compile just fine with maven ;)

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you only need lombok if you care about your IDE working

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runs

potent fossil
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This guy

Every time idea changes API plugin developer must update plugin.

No shit my guy?

void void
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imagine changing api

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wtf

lavish nova
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In fairness the lombok plugin is maintained by one guy who went on holiday to Croatia over the release of 2020.2

ancient bolt
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@SneakyThr0ws @DemonWav @intellijidea It was reported and suggested 11 years ago! Still almost every @intellijidea update breaks this plugin which is used by almost every Java dev now. I just don't really undestand why @jetbrains haven't yet done anything about it :( #sad

ht...

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"which is used by almost every Java dev now"

worn ember
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LOL

unique snow
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Yeah 2020.2 EAP was available for about 4 months prior to release.

vernal moth
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Yeah, saw that, lol

latent valve
ancient bolt
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It's almost as if the guy who makes lombok should support the IDE plugins it requires to actually be used

potent fossil
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where do these people come from, just like out of the woodwork and then try to speak for the entire development community

ancient bolt
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maybe have multiple maintainers

limber knotBOT
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tbh lots of features of lombok should just be standard java ones imo

vernal moth
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They are with records

lavish nova
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i love the controversy around lombok lmao

ancient bolt
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Like, don't bitch and moan that jetbrains doesn't support a framework like lombok when they have actual shit to worry about like Java EE frameworks

worn ember
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java EE monkaS

ancient bolt
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the people who pay for big commercial licenses of intellij doesn't usually use lombok

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

vernal moth
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I vetoed Lombok at my company ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Luckly I wasn't the only one to vote against it

ancient bolt
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Don't get me wrong I don't hate lombok

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A client was using it on a big spring application once and it was nice to have builders and properties without thousands of lines of boilerplate

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but like, just use kotlin

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also that project was (and from what I hear from those still working there, still is) a dumpster fire trainwreck

vernal moth
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I just use records

limber knotBOT
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just write code with lombok and delombok before master merges thinksmart

ancient bolt
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so you're using Java 15 with preview features? ๐Ÿค”

cosmic raft
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fuck lombok

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:p

ancient bolt
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I think lombok is fine, fuck the lombok """community""" though

twin lagoon
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hi kashike

cosmic raft
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an IDE can do basically everything lombok can, without requiring contributors to install some broken-ass horrible IDE plugin

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hi michael

ancient bolt
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I think you're missing the point regarding boilerplate

cosmic raft
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if you don't like seeing it then hide it with region comments or something

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or switch to kotlin

ancient bolt
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on the project I mentioned above using lombok saved the project from over 10k lines of useless, pointless, easy to forget to update boilerplate

potent fossil
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region comments KEKWHYPER

ancient bolt
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Because it was a very, very large project with a whole lot of POJOs becase it was a heavy data app

potent fossil
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yea i can see how that just gets overwhelming

blazing moss
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hiii

cosmic raft
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shrugs

potent fossil
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I like lombok's builders but that's about it.

cosmic raft
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nothing will change my opinion on lombok when better things exist

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IDE generation, kotlin, etc

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java record stuff

ancient bolt
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IDE generation doesn't handle issues where people forget to update them

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which, 1000% happens on a large team

twin lagoon
ancient bolt
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also most career developers don't give a shit

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and aren't worried about or care about having nice or good code or w/e

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so don't expect any of those other devs to keep those getters and setters up to date or in a consistent style or format