important tweet from dinnerbone coming soon π
#general
slim nymph
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
oh no
twin lagoon
oh yes
limber knotBOT
1.16.3
fallen oracle
Does this mean what I think it means?
slim nymph
VERY GOOD NEWS tweet
fallen oracle
Is it finally happening?
cosmic raft
I will leak it first
slim nymph
lol kash
cosmic raft
Minecraft is getting tacos
limber knotBOT
hes reviing bukkit??
finite wave
nice kash
quasi valley
wow kash how could you leak that
limber knotBOT
kash getting :bean:ed
all i see is #608789277790437446 smh
oh nohttps://twitter.com/i/events/1293523729620729856
Twitter
redstone is gone
Twitter
finite wave
Which new terms?
limber knotBOT
oh thats the bottom of the thread
cosmic raft
Twitter
limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
this one
potent fossil
twin lagoon
paperweight when
finite wave
I mean, we probably will only be able to get the benefit from paperweight cause md5 will prolly just laugh at it.
quasi valley
was almost scared we'd actually have to use mcp not the proper mappings
limber knotBOT
does this mean fabric is ded
mighty storm
Β© 2020 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. These mappings are provided "as-is" and you bear the risk of using them. You may copy and use the mappings for development purposes, but you may not redistribute the mappings complete and unmodified. Microsoft makes no warranties, express or implied, with respect to the mappings provided here. Use and modification of source code for Minecraft: Java Edition is governed by the Minecraft End User License Agreement available at https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula.
stiff yarrow
so does this mean we can get off Bukkit mappings and break a bunch of NMS plugins in the process 
finite wave
nossr
twin lagoon
there's paperweight for that
finite wave
PaperWeight
limber knotBOT
whats paperweight
stiff yarrow
link me
finite wave
.g demonwav paperweight
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://gitmemory.com/DemonWav -- DemonWav ( Kyle Wood ): "push eventDemonWav/paperweight. Kyle Wood. commit sha 3497f1e676e9a2f16aeadbb034444e987dc2dd99. Remapped Spigot now compiles with noΒ ..."
twin lagoon
.g demonwav paperweight site:github.com
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper -- PaperMC/Paper: High performance Spigot fork that aims to...: "... @md-5; @zachbr; @electronicboy; @Spottedleaf; @Thinkofname; @EcoCityCraftCI; @BillyGalbreath; @kashike; @Byteflux; @DemonWav. + 169..."
twin lagoon
fuck it
finite wave
next lion
what if paper switched to mjoang maps and remapped legacy nms plugins at runtime
cunning raft
π
cunning raft
Β© 2020 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. These mappings are provided "as-is" and you bear the risk of using them. You may copy and use the mappings for development purposes, but you may not redistribute the mappings complete and unmodified. Microsoft makes no warranties, express or implied, with respect to the mappings provided here. Use and modification of source code for Minecraft: Java Edition is governed by the Minecraft End User License Agreement available at https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula.
thats what I sent yes
finite wave
It allows one to work with proper mappings and then compile it to spigot mappings iirc?
limber knotBOT
slim nymph
yes
stiff yarrow
its not friday yet
cunning raft
allows for distributing them in a transformative way
quasi valley
honestly, I even doubt md will switch to Mojang mappings
one more reason to split off =^]
twin lagoon
i have my doubts aswell yeah
next lion
aikar is it a dumb idea
cunning raft
he might for next major update
next lion
to remap legacy nms at runtime through the plugin classloader?
finite wave
Meh
slim nymph
thats one idea but not sure itll work 100%
twin lagoon
what does paperweight do rn
finite wave
They shouldn't touch nms tho
next lion
because reflection
slim nymph
plugins trying to detect multiple nms revisions
twin lagoon
like what's the current plan here
finite wave
"NMS" has never been "supported" properly has it?
slim nymph
the goal was to letu s maintain patches on a remapped code base
finite wave
Why would you start supporting it now.
slim nymph
but it still ships out shitty
who said anything about supporting nms
people still use it
quasi valley
if/when paper does that, how about also getting rid of the dum package relocation? π
finite wave
That guy
slim nymph
break the plugins, people wont use paper
slim nymph
well with stable mappings, the package becomes way less relevant
limber knotBOT
whats the difference between using NMS and just PRing spigot/paper
stray oyster
cunning raft
md doesn't give a shit about nms
so i think he might change mappings
altho, his pride is with spigot mappings
so who knows
queen rapids
what's paper's plan π
finite wave
If you pr to paper you don't need to maintain it yourself if it's a cool patch.
slim nymph
well he does, in the sense he insists on keeping older shitty names vs renaming them
twin lagoon
altho, his pride is with spigot mappings
so who knows
i can see him not wanting to switch over so he has some power
finite wave
...
quasi valley
md always said he doesn't support nms/cb impl, yet he still makes compat meisures for them
I really truly doubt he'll adopt them
zealous knot
Jan Truck
finite wave
Sup babe
finite wave
??
stray oyster
quasi valley
but well uh, speculation. eitherway, Paper shouldn't have to depend on Spigot with that :p
finite wave
Go away dum bardygamer
limber knotBOT
or you found your tables
twin lagoon
myokan who are you
zealous knot
Jan Trunk
slim nymph
@quasi valley we depend on spigot purely for plugin compat, as we have to accept his choices until we break off, not due to nms work
fallen oracle
EssX Paper when?
slim nymph
but yes this does make the idea of a break off much easier now
limber knotBOT
is that what they mean by "Hard fork"
slim nymph
yes
the point where we no longer care about spigot and go our separate ways
and have different API's
zealous knot
Oh hi gΕΓ€rΓ©
twin lagoon
@tired locust it's not unrealistic tbh
quasi valley
yeah people have said they'd do so, myokan
cunning raft
inb4 essentialsx, placeholderapi, etc all drop spigot support for paper
i'd pr in mojang mappings if such a thing was made in paper
limber knotBOT
spigot still uses bukkit???
finite wave
wtf bukkit
limber knotBOT
based paper
wide chasm
I mean, when people's plugins break, people will also complain
void void
based? based on what?
finite wave
it isn't
limber knotBOT
bukkit
zealous knot
Bukkit still uses the native minecraft server implementation
stray oyster
Java? Why do we run java of all things
void void
yeah java is slow as fuck
zealous knot
finite wave
cause minecraft.
zealous knot
Fuck java
void void
and should use FAWE
potent fossil
paper hard fork when
quasi valley
stef, if the biggest plugins all go to Paper, what do you expect people to do? make forks of literally everything and stay on Spigot? :p
the 1.8 people maybe, but surely noone sane on 1.13+
finite wave
yes kneny
void void
knemy*
quasi valley
no u
fossil cedar
why don't we start a new Thread for each tick, it would be a lot faster :troll:
wide chasm
Honestly Kenny, I wouldn't be surprised if people just continue using older builds
void void
knemy smells
finite wave
just do coroutines tom
stray oyster
How can we slow that down even more
zealous knot
Knemy go take a shower bb
kindred storm
Hangar is a prerequisite for a hard fork
stray oyster
Compare the current to the last thread by generated hash value
potent fossil
if y'all don't run your own x86 asm modded server idk what you're doing
@tired locust i run my own network on a fleet of raspberry pis that are members of a k8s cluster
finite wave
my fork is always hard
next lion
I'm on team hard fork 100%
fallen oracle
So what I'm hearing is all big plugins go close source and then go to Paper so they can't go back to Spigot.
zealous knot
Spogit
quasi valley
that's the spirit, glare
zealous knot
Pluper
quasi valley
that's Hangar :p
potent fossil
Yeah @vernal moth
fallen oracle
This calls for another drink.
quasi valley
hangar wen
potent fossil
Hangar when bich
stray oyster
This calls for a crusade
limber knotBOT
depends
finite wave
HANGAR WHEN
limber knotBOT
ready or usable
fossil cedar
paper could go on it's way with a compat layer for spigot plugins, no ?
potent fossil
ready lets start a riot
WE WANT HANGAR
WHEN DO WE WANT IT
NOW
lapis marlin
I'm super hyped that Paper is already on top of updating
limber knotBOT
when it's ready!
lapis marlin
I love how devoted this community is
potent fossil
devoted or insane?
lapis marlin
devs are insane
stray oyster
Parts of both
finite wave
aikar is inasne
finite wave
Imagine not being lazy and actually doing coding when you are off work
potent fossil
man, ive been saying i need to code for 3 days now and then i just stare at twitter/youtube/reddit on a loop all day instead
lapis marlin
LOL
lapis marlin
I'd use Velocity but 1: I don't have a bungee required server
2: I'm too fucking lazy to find a bunch of Velocity plugins
potent fossil
I mean there is already a compat layer that gracefully falls back to Spigot atm
it's called PaperLib
lapis marlin
3: it's not as supported so there's like 1 plugin I need on there
CMI Velocity doesn't exist π
kindred storm
using cmi is a mistake
void void
CMI Velocity 
stray oyster
If paper were to push it, it would grow
finite wave
....
twin lagoon
CMI
potent fossil
But if paper hard forks, plugins just need to support another platform like they do with sponge etc
nbd
next lion
yes but the difference is that no one would implement plugins for spigot
void void
no
next lion
because no one will care about it
lapis marlin
It's actually very useful for what I need
potent fossil
CMI is terrible
twin lagoon
fucking magic
fossil cedar
CMI ?
finite wave
Michael is a server admin
void void
hnnnng
finite wave
he better have 69 fucking screen or ded
lapis marlin
It replaces a lot of plugins for me and doesn't lag my server
lapis marlin
songoda is a lol
twin lagoon
that is true
lapis marlin
I got a screenshot of her admitting she talked inappropriately to a child
finite wave
.g CMI yatopia
fallen oracle
Imagine switching from EssX to CMI. What do you do when you want to switch back?
lapis marlin
I talked with her myself
limber knotBOT
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lapis marlin
and she admitted it
Imagine switching from EssX to CMI. What do you do when you want to switch back?
@fallen oracle Why would I?
fallen oracle
Cause your server starts killing itself?
lapis marlin
My server doesn't have any issues and infact any timings issues goes back to another plugin
right but
1: it's my choice
2: i don't care
finite wave
lapis marlin
3: if I have issues that are bad I will swap back
potent fossil
fine leave the CMI user alone
lapis marlin
Awesome π
void void
jesus don't get so overprotective, it's not your child or something
lapis marlin
yeah but you gotta look at it from my standpoint
I just brought up a plugin
Everyone goes apeshit
void void
and we're just poking you for lulz
fallen oracle
How will you swap back without data loss?
kindred storm
CMI is just hilarious
potent fossil
if you want to use it, use it, but for the most part it's a bad choice at best and at worst it's dangerous
so don't recommend it
fossil cedar
what's CMI ?
lapis marlin
no offense, but I get like 1 player a week and I have no life
I can transfer it back myself
twin lagoon
bad
lapis marlin
CMI's an alternative for EssentialsX
It offers more stuff than it at a cost of "lag" according to the community
void void
nvm i misread wtf
lapis marlin
okay well I am quoting their page so.
limber knotBOT
phone home
potent fossil
Imagine a person that tries to do everything for you. And they do. But instead of doing everything well, they do everything as half-assed as possible and without regard for safety or efficiency.
lapis marlin
backdoor located where?
potent fossil
CMI is that, but in program form
fallen oracle
One thing I found out is that even after you remove it, it still fucks with your player files.
limber knotBOT
oh yeah, invulnerbility in playerdata
fallen oracle
Yup
slender jay
CMI is like ClearLagg tries to do everything best but ends up doing everything really bad
kindred storm
closed source black box of rubbish
potent fossil
TruAntiLag best anti-lag
kindred storm
you have no idea whether there's a backdoor or not
lapis marlin
BestAntiLag++(PRO)
timber arch
left swift
for the low price of $599 you'll get a 1.8.8 jar and mine bitcoin for me for free!
potent fossil
uses network monitor to see payload and location
creates arbitrary JSON and program to dump data at that URL endlessly
has anyone done that yet
lapis marlin
okay so is using CMI a proven security risk to me
limber knotBOT
Be Right Back my cat is nuzzling me
lapis marlin
because im not gonna trust traves ape mode noises and "cmi bad"
fallen oracle
I mean I wouldn't say it's a security risk, but it does send information back to the developer without you knowing about it.
So, that's up in the air for you to decide.
potent fossil
It's sketchy as hell, and if that doesn't make you want to switch then you do you big fella.
lapis marlin
Who's got a good plugin for a tablist
potent fossil
TAB
lapis marlin
I'm thinking about TitleManager
Can I get a link to it?
OH wait is that the MVDW plugin?
slender jay
.g tab spigot
potent fossil
.g TAB site:spigotmc.org
finite wave
TAB has some issues but its prolly fine'
limber knotBOT
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left swift
whats google
limber knotBOT
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potent fossil
F
left swift
holy shit lol
wet magnet
What even is Waterfall?
void void
a proxy
worn ember
@grave oxide for those changes you made, if i accept them, will it create a commit for it?
lapis marlin
Better Bungeecord
slender jay
bungee but from papermc
potent fossil
You can easily deduce what waterfall is by answering this question. 'What is paper, compared to spigot?'
kindred storm
velocity makes things easier
slender jay
people with balls use travertine
kindred storm
with velocity you need less nasty reflection and have more useful API
grave oxide
@worn ember I didnt make changes? Arent those comments?
worn ember
oh right i'm dum
fossil cedar
i really want to get the main api design differences between bungee and velocity but i don't have enougth time
potent fossil
velocity was designed from the ground up
no relation to bungee at all
entirely different
fossil cedar
i know
potent fossil
so the differences are immense
fossil cedar
this is why i say i don't have enought time now
potent fossil
well that's my point
you won't ever have time, you'll be looking at every single thing almost down to each LOC
spice finch
What was the plugin to pregenerate world asynchronously?
potent fossil
WorldBorder
spice finch
Someone posted it here some time ago
slim nymph
Chunkster iirc
worn ember
Aikar, why is the end of file on a new line relevant for the translations? Just curious
slim nymph
Chunky?
@worn ember its standard practice to end files in a new line, which is why the github diff is calling it out for you
formal turret
chunkmaster?
slim nymph
probably
worn ember
ah i see
potent fossil
This is paper ^^
zealous wedge
nah elec, Chunky is the nicer one
lapis marlin
ya i know lmao
static badge
potent fossil
Go to tuinity discord if you'd like to ask
quasi valley
join the tuinity discord and ask them
slim nymph
we recommend paper, if you use a fork, you lose support here
zealous wedge
brought to you by @grand pewter
lapis marlin
OH HEY
slim nymph
@worn ember its so if you print the file contents out, it ends the line correctly and terminals wont be busted
lapis marlin
@static badge can I dm u rq?
static badge
about?
lapis marlin
Tuinity
potent fossil
goodnight michael 
slim nymph
did you run https://aikar.co/1.16.2.html in prod yet michael?!
spice finch
https://github.com/pop4959/Chunky
That's what I was looking for
potent fossil
lapis marlin
@static badge I'd like to rq talk about Tuinity, if you don't mind I've got a couple questions
spice finch
go it's discord
quasi valley
join the tuinity discord, as already said by multiple people
spice finch
wow michael how did you do that
twin lagoon
paper 1.16.2 performance is insane
fossil cedar
so fast
worn ember
pepa foreva
quasi valley
applying mojang mappings will make that go to 200tps michael!
twin lagoon
the only sleep i know is thread.sleep in craftimize
static badge
limber knotBOT
progress + poggers = proggers
mighty storm
general be like 
static badge
if you paypal me 420.69 ill let you in general
twin lagoon
deal
lapis marlin
What's a good portal plugin?
twin lagoon
.g good portal plugin
lapis marlin
like, multiverse portals but i dont use multiverse
limber knotBOT
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420.69 what currency
twin lagoon
^
zealous wedge
canadian dollars
lapis marlin
not wordpress
zealous wedge
also chew i'll let you in for free :3
static badge
420.69 rupees
worn ember
@wide chasm how would you translate "main hand"? 
"hoofd hand" sounds really weird
lapis marlin
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/advanced-portals.14356/ Do y'all know if this is any good?
limber knotBOT
yay!
fossil cedar
wow u so lucky men
worn ember
"primaire" could work i suppose
wide chasm
Yeah
Could check how it's translated in-game
The Dutch Minecraft wiki uses "dominante hand"
limber knotBOT
this aint all that much tbh https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wK2ndzPd/image.png
potent fossil
worn ember
ah yes, the job of dutch
limber knotBOT
made with memeatic
rustic knoll
install at least 3 anti-lag plugins and you'll be fine
worn ember
wtf why is English UK upside down, shouldnt that be Australian?
worn ember
mojang and their weird jokes smh
limber knotBOT
it's a $150 but he's giving it to you for $15 because hes so nice
twin lagoon
fucking legends
cunning raft
he broke twitch chat
worn ember
who?
limber knotBOT
some dude
cunning raft
yeah they secured the bag
worn ember
what does he play?
twin lagoon
they literally got a couple million dollars
cunning raft
couple?
twin lagoon
then mixer fucked off
cunning raft
ninja got like 60mil
worn ember
ez money
cunning raft
shroud got 30 ish
worn ember
i bet those plebs that stayed on twitch feel really stupid now
cunning raft
they had to stream there for like 6 months
limber knotBOT
from what I heard facebook offered them double but they convinced mixer to get them instead
rustic knoll
yeah they don't even need to stream for money anymore
vagrant niche
wow $150 worth for $15!?! Sounds like a deal
cunning raft
chew: facebook offered double to stream there after mixer went rip
limber knotBOT
anyone got a site where i can sign in with twitter
twin lagoon
mixer was already a move hard enough to make
facebook is even worse
@mighty storm Feedly
cunning raft
yeah
limber knotBOT
thx
ah darn
for whatever reason twitter.com does NOT load whatsoever
every subdomain does, not the main site
worn ember
@wide chasm what about "don't blow their cover" i dont really know how to translate that
worn ember
yeah but thats just ret- really dum
have ya'll seen this already? Sorry if i'm late to the party https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/1293597326561488897
Twitter
wide chasm
You're late
worn ember
stupid discord
wide chasm
See #paper-dev
cunning raft
scroll up
worn ember
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
wide chasm
We already switched all our mappings, yarn is already declared dead and we already produced seven major versions with new mappings /s
worn ember
oh i scroll down the comments and i already see simp and mini replies
what would we do without dinnerbone
finite wave
have fun
worn ember
jane
finite wave
babe
worn ember
hollow latch
Hey 
limber knotBOT
the real bigbrain is to comment on the gist
quasi valley
wrong
knotty rose
They release the mappigns right?
wide chasm
The damage_all seems to be indeed Dinnerbone's work, but pig_zombie seems to not be.
worn ember
private detective stef
vagrant niche
Who do we stab with the pitchfork?
void void
ded
worn ember
no
void void
yes
cunning raft
pretty sure pig_zombie was jeb
void void
he needs more holes
worn ember
smh you cant even fill one
void void
watch me ded
worn ember
hard pass
cunning raft
fuck you lax
worn ember
im busy doing translations no one will ever use
worn ember
i was gonna visit ur mom but i couldnt find her
void void
great
wide chasm
I mean, I don't know if the history on the SpigotMC repo goes back all the way, but couldn't find it there.
worn ember
literal history
wide chasm
That md comment
worn ember
one day this will bein text books
and the younglings will be thaught the distater that came to be bukkit
potent fossil
#adorable-pets
potent fossil
he's like 25 i thought
worn ember
md is as old as me yikes
potent fossil
ill be in college at 24-25 still o.o
wide chasm
He's going for his third major
potent fossil
just finishing, but yes
vagrant niche
He finished college and is now 28
worn ember
if you never redo a year
vagrant niche
He has a baby coming
potent fossil
well, damn m8, guess am not living up to society's requirements of good age to finish college :((
devastated
wide chasm
I mean, it also depends on what you're actually studying
potent fossil
should just drop out
wide chasm
Medical studies here take six years
vagrant niche
He has masters
wide chasm
I thought 12
worn ember
smh people not finishing their translations
knotty rose
Reading replies to that tweet (the mappings one) i found who to give the Dumb of the Year prize
potent fossil
i legitimately thought barty was an old ass man
im older than you,
i need to go take a walk
wide chasm
Billy is an old ass man
potent fossil
idk you just seem old
potent fossil
worn ember
imagine using tiktok tho
potent fossil
not convinced send birth certificate, SSN, and recent credit card statement
vagrant niche
how many college aged females have you impregnated?
formal turret
hopefully
void void
vagrant niche
Females have standards lul
potent fossil
he's 22, how is the kid gonna show up at his door in 3 years ded
wide chasm
.rekt
limber knotBOT
β You have the REKT to remain silent
potent fossil
asking
vagrant niche
kid commits sudoku when they learned he dada is
potent fossil
@wide chasm
vagrant niche
lmao, some1 check it out
void void
yeah barty's baby momma will be getting those fat mc server stacks
quasi valley
MOOOHDZ
marble lark
Good god are all Bedrock Edition servers this badly written?
potent fossil
No PMMP is just fucking ass
void void
you know what's worse
vagrant niche
Well, its php
void void
eclipse and white theme
vagrant niche
wat do ya expect
marble lark
No PMMP is just fucking ass
@potent fossil It's not PMMP it's Steadfast2
cunning raft
that's solid php code
potent fossil
cat can you delete dat 1.16 download that dude put up there lmao, someone is gonna download that shit and get fucked
cunning raft
and it is pocketmine
marble lark
Lifeboat's Propriety (Can't spell) software
potent fossil
ok its gone
marble lark
and it is pocketmine
@cunning raft A fork to be accurate
golden gust
Please don't post pre-release jars; people who are using them should be capable of at least following the basic compile steps...
vagrant niche
We wouldn't have this fake ass downloads if aikar just finished paper 1.16.2
its that ez
zealous wedge
people who can read aikar's site can already get 1.16.2 builds
if you can't do that you shouldn't be running 1.16.2
marble lark
Well, its php
@vagrant niche How does PHP even compile into a PHAR with 89 errors???
marble lark
ur using eclipse, just compile and ignore errors
@vagrant niche It crashed the moment I joined it -_-
vagrant niche
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
worn ember
paper is only 19% java, definitely fake
marble lark
paper is only 19% java, definitely fake
@worn ember The Repo is all just Patch files tho
worn ember
sad day
wide chasm
It's always a sad day.
potent fossil
src/pocketmine
wide chasm
Some days are just less sad than others.
potent fossil
it may be steadfast2, but it's clearly a fork of pocketmine
soft/hard idk but it's PMMP
limber knotBOT
https://youtu.be/jzt2mC3tfqk finally some quality content
potent fossil
optimally
static badge
ah yes finally something I'm good at
worn ember
wtf am i looking at
rain lichen
1.16.2 soon? some friends on my server are on bedrock using geysermc and they cant join
void void
Hol up there buckaroo
potent fossil
Update ViaVersion.
limber knotBOT
viaversion viabackwards
potent fossil
it will work.
hollow latch
Hi
rain lichen
or something around $75
limber knotBOT
idk how much we pay
hollow latch
Hi 
potent fossil
1.16.2 stable soon, stay on .1 for now and just update VV/VB. Your latest bedrock players will be able to connect fne.
worn ember
i pay 35$ a month 
limber knotBOT
the problem with having internet that fast is no one else does so you're limited to everyone else's upload speed
rain lichen
why is a bot having a discussion
potent fossil
They're on IRC
rain lichen
ohhh
vagrant niche
That's their gender
dusty veldt
it's working
limber knotBOT
how is a deleted user talking /s
void void
they are using 2% of their power
limber knotBOT
there's like 3 things clearly pointing to it being a fake
irc is for cute people only
oop bye then
quasi valley
irc is for absolute stinkers
potent fossil
i can use traefik as my api gateway
potent fossil
this changes everything
limber knotBOT
see chew is here therefore she is cute
quasi valley
why are you on irc then
void void
we all make mistakes in the heat of passion, jimbo
vernal moth
Of course it can
potent fossil
yeah, chew asked so i said it 
zealous knot
lmao
worn ember
pooping is an important part of the life cycle
void void
yes it is
limber knotBOT
did you know it's really hard to legally get 5 galoons of human blood
zealous knot
so why do you need rate limiting to get 5 gallons of human blood?
limber knotBOT
i wouldnt know
potent fossil
Why do you need 5 gallons of human blood?
limber knotBOT
i dont
void void
For researching
limber knotBOT
mark rober did
worn ember
period refill
zealous knot
mark robber eksd
limber knotBOT
hold up
zealous knot
anyway chew
if you're using nginx, it has a rate limiting module
it's pretty basic
limber knotBOT
apache2
zealous knot
but it gets the job done
potent fossil
I watched that video wasn't too terribly impressed with his method. Didn't bother commenting though.
limber knotBOT
least it's xml
potent fossil
He used plain human blood, and then fish "mush". Wasn't fish blood. They straight up ground up the fish into smoothies.
Of course Sharks want that more.
limber knotBOT
true
zealous knot
shhhhh simp i havent seen it yet no spoilers bro
limber knotBOT
THERE ARE CATS
zealous knot
oh ffs
potent fossil
I mean it's still a fun video beyond just that small point
limber knotBOT
"fish blood smoothie"
potent fossil
Yeah but it clearly had meat in it
limber knotBOT
yeah
potent fossil
The start of the video is them literally blending a fish head first into a blender
Like lmao
ok fuck it's noon already and i've done nothing
literally nothing
i need to do somethng
quasi valley
I skipped the beginning as soon as I saw a blender lol
potent fossil
lol yea, it wasn't that pretty
limber knotBOT
i skipped the part where he was tested... twice
worn ember
damn i actually contributed to something
imagine being productive
i did the translations for mekanism too lol, i should become a full time google translator
knotty rose
ok fuck it's noon already and i've done nothing
i woke up at noon so i didnt do nothing at morning; i was sleeping lmao
wide chasm
I got +2GB of Google Drive storage because I helped with some Google Translate translations
zealous knot
Okay what the fuck
potent fossil
I love when discord just crashes and won't open again so I have to switch between release channels
potent fossil
Told ya
limber knotBOT
nice +2 GB lol
potent fossil
Idk why he published that tbqh
wide chasm
Cheaper than paying for it π
limber knotBOT
true
knotty rose
I got +2GB of Google Drive storage because I helped with some Google Translate translations
they reward you?! I helped with like 150 translations and they didnt give me anything
worn ember
^^
limber knotBOT
can you even buy 2 GB
knotty rose
They diddnt even said me thanks
wide chasm
I mean, I got rewarded apparently
zealous knot
He seems completely unfazed by what he's doing
wide chasm
Don't know how much I did, though, maybe there's a certain threshold you need to meet?
potent fossil
Yeah idk, lapse of judgement there. And like I said the experiment wasn't fair. I just seriously got the feeling that the video was rushed to meet his monthly release quota and as a result the experimentation suffered.
wide chasm
I think I did it quite early, it's definitely been years since I did it.
potent fossil
did they just reward you or did you just notice they rewarded you?
wide chasm
I got the reward a long time ago, definitely not recent
potent fossil
i c i c
well in that case they probably just stopped doing it
wasn't economical or something
you're grandfathered
wide chasm
Yeah, probably
worn ember
better than getting uncled
potent fossil
lol
wide chasm
True
worn ember
idk if i should finish this WPF application... god its such a pain to work with
i'll just redo my year
wide chasm
If it's for college, you should finish it
potent fossil
does anyone know of any free k8s learning resources? the one on edx you have to pay $200 for any of the quizzes and can just read the content, so there's no subject reinforcement
and you can catch these hands if you think im paying for that
limber knotBOT
k8 = kubernetes?
potent fossil
yes
twin lagoon
i'd just play around with it
i haven't looked into courses or anytihng personally
docs are solid
worn ember
i know i should but i legit dont understand what i'm even supposed to do lol
potent fossil
oh thanks babe
potent fossil
also why are you awake go the fuck to sleep
twin lagoon
it's 21:20
potent fossil
did i ask
twin lagoon
it's 21:20
potent fossil
twin lagoon
potent fossil
oh jesus this is much better than that terrible excuse of instructive material published on edx
my god
$200 my ass
potent fossil
yea i have it
wide chasm
Ask the teacher for more information, Dark.
void void
i know a little bit of k8s
cunning badge
Can we get a counter on how often people ask for a new release 
potent fossil
No
void void
so if you need help ping me simple
cunning badge
twin lagoon
i know a bit of k8s now aswell but i'm still a beginner
potent fossil
I just need to learn the terminology and whatnot, like Pods etc. Otherwise I think it shouldn't be too bad. Looks kiiiiiiinda like compose.
But thanks mikro I will
void void
k8s has worse learning curve than nixos tbfh
twin lagoon
it is compose on steroids
void void
ye
twin lagoon
the problem w/ k8s for me is that it moves so fucking fast and there's always something that you should use which is better than X
e.g. helm charts, calico for networking, agones for gameservers
void void
i remember when one guy showed me knative
potent fossil
so its like JS except devops 
limber knotBOT
void void
then i was looking into knative
and then the rabbit hole began
need to install istio etc
potent fossil
I would really like to figure one a full CI/CD with k8s one day, not that I need it.
Just cool
figure out*
potent fossil
I need my vesa mount to get here tho. I'm getting excited about the idea of no stands
unkempt drift
anyone know how to send a request to your machines localhost inside a docker container on linux? host.docker.internal doesn't seem to work for linux
potent fossil
uh, what are you trying to do?
Container should not be aware of the host...what's the usecase?
unkempt drift
well I have a web server running on locally
basically, I have Hangar2 running locally, and then HangarAuth is setup w/docker-compose and atm, I can't seem to figure out how to POST something to hangar2 from hangarauth
potent fossil
why are they not all running in docker
at which point, you just use container names to reference each other
(so long as on same network)
unkempt drift
ask @vernal moth that
vernal moth
Well, locally I don't want to run the app I develop
So like, spring boot dev tools and hot swapping etc work
vernal moth
I run the DB in docker already so running auth in docker would be fine, as that's not actively developed anyways
And like, most of the time I would disable auth and use the fake user I guess
potent fossil
he's trying to do auth->hangar2
idk about project internals, so am just gonna let you hash it out with mini, machine
potent fossil
congrats
do the optimization guide for best results and update frequently
have fun
void void
thx
Okay, 13 minutes in 8 players. A few lag spikes popping up, but that went away. the tps dropped to around 13 but eventually jumped back up to 17 ish
and now back up to nearly 20
fallen parcel
im having trouble using the "world resourcepacks" plugin.
how exactly would i assign a texturepack to a specific dimension?
spice finch
paper malware watch out
void void
im guessing
twin lagoon
dunno if he's available rn
minor badge
i mean you already pinged him so i guess not :p
fallen parcel
iv posted in many discords, and managed to speak to phoenix once before.
it looks like a great plugin he made, theres allota info, but i dont understand, if i could just see an example of what im trying to do xD.
void void
ya know, making this switch to paper reminds me when i first made the switch from bukkit to spigot xD
wtf
if that issue reply is not some kind of a variation of some copypasta
then i'm truly disappointed
potent fossil
I love the "I'm a certified IT specialist" argument all the time. It's more common than you thnk.
Who's the dude who was a "certified IT specialist" who ran a minecraft server out of his college dorm and got the entire uni IT department to play it?
opaque flax
It's even better on spigot fourms with the It professionals
finite wave
Didn't that dude get angry cause i told him paper client didn't exist?
void void
paper client... rings a bell
potent fossil
The sheer amount of people who think "IT specialist" just means knowing how to use a computer is far too high
Orly
worn ember
my dad gets mad at me if i dont know the solution to a specific problem he has with his email
opaque flax
What isnt an actual ceriftaction
worn ember
"arent you a programmer??"
potent fossil
plz go look at the Comptia A+ curriculum
opaque flax
Isnt the comptia exam a pain
potent fossil
Yeah, but if you want to be seen as worth your salt in almost any corporate org you better have one.
At least in the US.
Unless you have a lot of other experience and can blow them away with that. But at that point, just get the A+.
lmao
drowsy urchin
Hello, will Aikar, be doing another live stream on twitch today?
upper flicker
Ive never seen anywhere that saw the A+ as anything other than a "I have no experience, look I vaguely know how to bang two pans together" cert
if youre working in industry already, skip it
potent fossil
Idk, the IT department at the jobs I've had have jizzed over it.
That and the MS certs.
opaque flax
Mappings lisence is going to be changed on friday. I wonder how the new ones are going to be.
upper flicker
the MS certs can be valuable, though they're very "memorize this and there you go"
potent fossil
that's true
upper flicker
If some place refused to hire because of no A+ and you have experience, theyre doing you a favor
finite wave
potent fossil
oh they dont refuse, you just get lower pay
upper flicker
sounds very entry level MSP
potent fossil
yes
upper flicker
ie shitty
cedar spade
potent fossil
Also it was a bank not MSP, but yes entry level for sure. I've not got a degree yet so while yes it is possible to have upward mobility I didn't move very far before deciding to just go back to school and finish my degree lmao
I got to AVP tho
upper flicker
all corporate bureaucracy is a headache
potent fossil
God damn right
upper flicker
decisions made by HR filters rather than people in industry
potent fossil
It's what you make it I guess but have fun with the absolutely insane levels of pettiness
finite wave
Yo the amount of shit i've been allowed to post in this discord is waaay too offensive
potent fossil
Ah yes
Unicorn employers
Might be more rare than unicorns
rip
I had a little bit of mobility, but the lack of degree meant I simply wasn't respected.
I'd get asked a question, I'd answer. Then they'd "fact check" it with someone who had a degree.
Right in front of me.
finite wave
spotted is a weeb?
potent fossil
And my answer was right lmao. It's like, ok, why ask me. I just quit.
I interned before being promoted, same company. While an intern, I was referred to as "the intern".
Not my name.
It was surreal
unreal quarry
Ah yes. Internship. Legal free labor
potent fossil
But I did learn how to survive corporate bureaucracy though.
pastel solar
can someone tell me if 3.7 ghz and 2 gb is good enough for a mc server
potent fossil
I was paid for it, so I just took the torture.
You're not going to have a good time @pastel solar
pastel solar
simpowo what would u recommend
pastel solar
for a 20 player mc server?
pastel solar
damn that cost so much
potent fossil
Running a server isn't cheap. If you can't afford it, just don't. You won't have a good time.
Just find a server to play on together.
unreal quarry
My wife was an unpaid intern at some doctor's office. It was part of the medical school program, to help students get into the workplace. They're supposed to hire you once you graduate, but my wife was unlucky enough to get assigned to a repeat offender of letting the students go just before grad so they can get a new free laborer
potent fossil
That should be illegal
unreal quarry
Should be
finite wave
Atleast he didn't try other funny stuff.
tired heath
Actually I reach the point where I fear to get into a traffic stop with some drug test, because of all the green passiv smoke coming from my neighbors. I just wanted to note that!
tired heath
Every day multiple times, I can not understand how humans can stand that longer than a month π
tired heath
Like smoking so often
finite wave
Smoking what
void void
its amoung us.... DiscordBot@spigotmc-ffh63a.destroystokyo.com
finite wave
Where are you from ofunny?
tired heath
Austria
finite wave
Is it really that bad?
potent fossil
You should see manila
potent fossil
Manila has the most dense traffic on the planet :D
worn ember
almost as dense as the karens their skull
void void
now whats the difference between 1.16.2 waterfall and 1.16.1 normal paper
kinda new to the whole thing
alr
tired heath
That being said, I have to go to gym now.
void void
so if i wanted to update a normal 1.16.1 paper to 1.16.2 waterfall how would that work
potent fossil
It's so bad that this is the law:
Monday: you may NOT drive during rush hours (7-10am, 3-7pm) if your license plate ends in 1,2
Tuesday: ^ 3,4
Wednesday: 5,6
Thursday: 7,8
Friday: 9,0
Weekends: no restriction
so if i wanted to update a normal 1.16.1 paper to 1.16.2 waterfall how would that work
@void void 1.16.2 is not ready yet
void void
ahh