general

[worn ember]

imagine having spoilers not show by default

[fierce finch]

||my tps is 2||

[limber knot]

||if you can read this then u cute||

:blush:

[finite wave]

||Big||||waffle||

[spice finch]

What are spoilers supposed to do, everyone clicks them anyway

[zealous wedge]

😳

[cloud pumice]

good job

[limber knot]

||You just lost the game.||

rookie numbers, my tps is 1

[zealous wedge]

the point is you can click but don't have to

[spice finch]

You're doing it anyway

Or maybe it's just me

[limber knot]

I should add spoilers to MineDown 🤔

[zealous wedge]

and you'd have an unspoilered warning

you can't really spoiler in MC

[fierce finch]

||help my tps is at 0.10||

[zealous wedge]

I guess with a hover event

[spice finch]

Just display actual content in hover zml

[limber knot]

yeah

[worn ember]

now mc next background colors for text

[minor badge]

its nice if i go "spoiler: paper 1.17s downfall ||i am from the future, paper will die in 1.16.3 as md69 purchases it and halts all development||"

[worn ember]

wow wtf is my brain doing

*now mc just needs to add background colors

[zealous wedge]

paper 1.16.3 update wen

[spice finch]

Going sleep, have good night guys

[limber knot]

sounds like a literal translation or something DED? lol

[fierce finch]

noo, ur wrong, paper 1.16.3 pr1

[worn ember]

no i'm just not really thinking

[limber knot]

same

👀

^Btest

oof

[finite wave]

[limber knot]

or maybe ^BtestB^

[worn ember]

no

[fierce finch]

brb let me find the oldest version of waterfall

[worn ember]

its **test**

[limber knot]

yes but

https://prnt.sc/trgu8o

[worn ember]

yuck

[limber knot]

;-;

[fiery tapir]

lightshot
sharex, my boy

it is wonderful

[minor badge]

scrot, my boy

it is wonderful

[stray oyster]

I mean while we are talking about the downfall of bungeecord @minor badge id like to point out that the appeal of bungeecord died out with 1.16 and its very specific registries

Not to mention

[minor badge]

yeah im working on moving to velocity myself, but that entails quite a bit of code

[stray oyster]

1.16.2 is a nightmare that sends login packets the size of houses (approx 4mb packet size)

[fiery tapir]

what happened to bungee in 1.16?

[stray oyster]

Bungee always had fast switching that used fake server switches instead of resetting the client

This used to be faster

Spoiler; with how bungeecord works it can’t be faster anymore

[shell vine]

huh

[stray oyster]

Compare all of the registry

Add to it that biome registry is coming

And order doesn’t matter

[void void]

wtf proxi

shilling scrot is a sin

maim pls

[stray oyster]

And if all that is met only then will you be able to pull off fast switching without ruining into issues later

[cosmic raft]

.wa define maim

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: verb | injure or wound seriously and leave permanent disfiguration or mutilation - https://is.gd/No9cqg

[void void]

https://github.com/naelstrof/maim

[cosmic raft]

I'm aware :P

Just love what the word also means

[true canyon]

don't maim me bro

[stray oyster]

Meanwhile I’m just CMD+SHIFT+3/4

[cloud pumice]

print screen 😌

[pulsar wigeon]

https://github.com/Roger/escrotum/issues/12

[stray oyster]

Ahyes

[fiery tapir]

as long as i can press a hotkey, select a region, and it spits out a link i can slap into discord it works for me

[stray oyster]

Comedy gold

[cloud pumice]

how about

https://github.com/m1el/vapoursynth/blob/master/src/filters/assvapour/assvapour.c

[stray oyster]

[minor badge]

@void void scrot is simply superior

[stray oyster]

[void void]

no it's not

[stray oyster]

Let the battle begin

[minor badge]

if it WORKS do not FIX it mikro

[void void]

its selector literally shatters into pieces when drawn too fast

[limber knot]

i hope rory comes back

[void void]

it does not work

[minor badge]

then dont draw it too fast

ive never had that issue

[cloud pumice]

lmaooo

[void void]

ur slow that's why

[minor badge]

😡

[void void]

and selector appears on the resulting screenshot as well

which is mega

[minor badge]

it does NOT

[void void]

yes when you draw it slowly

[zealous wedge]

o lol my screenshot script I wrote years ago still uses scrot

[stray oyster]

[void void]

which is cancer

[minor badge]

nOpe

[zealous wedge]

I should move on

[minor badge]

i am slow at screenshotting but it does not appear

youve just been using it wrong dum ..................

[void void]

i'll boot to linux and show brb

[limber knot]

rory is back!

[cosmic raft]

@serene bolt tickle

[fiery tapir]

all i want is a screenshot utility that lets me boost contrast while i'm selecting a region so that i can see the difference between the slightly different whites on a webpage or w/e

i like talking very precise screenshots okay

[minor badge]

i do scrot -ofszi "owou $file", @void void

[cosmic raft]

hm

if I leave home at 17:00, catch the 17:10 bus, and then the 17:29 bus... I could end up with an hour I can spend at the mall until it closes

Do I do it?

[vernal moth]

Sounds like a plan!

[minor badge]

yes

[void void]

oh yes it still sucks

ffs

[cloud pumice]

sounds like u need a mall closer to house

[void void]

scrot 🚮

[fiery tapir]

i am rather afraid of malls currently

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge owo invite

[cosmic raft]

and that is assuming that the bus is not stuck in traffic

otherwise could be 30-45 minutes in the mall before it closes

[minor badge]

scrot is godly

[fiery tapir]

odds are i'd be fine but i can't shake the paranoia of it being a pandemic and all that

[vernal moth]

Well, what's your plan in the small?

[cloud pumice]

sounds like a bit of a waste of time honestly

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon nebur

[fiery tapir]

half the things we do as humans are unproductive

it's fun to do nothing productive sometimes

[cloud pumice]

eh

[twin lagoon]

proxi you hate me

[cosmic raft]

@vernal moth eat, maybe shop if I have time, dunno

[vernal moth]

Ah so mostly to get out of the house a bit?

[cosmic raft]

yea

[fiery tapir]

i have to wonder what country you folks are from

[cosmic raft]

Canada

[vernal moth]

That def sounds worth it then

All hail Germany

Oh wait what

[minor badge]

visit me kash!

[cosmic raft]

Hm?

[minor badge]

come over 😳

[cosmic raft]

No idea where you even live :P

[fiery tapir]

i haven't quite reached the level of nihilism required to feel vaguely safe in public here in 'merica

[minor badge]

not in your continent for one

[cosmic raft]

let me guess

sweden

no

iceland?

[vernal moth]

I would never feel save in murica, lol

[cosmic raft]

norway?

[minor badge]

norway

[cosmic raft]

HA

[minor badge]

only took 3 tries

[stiff yarrow]

America is safe in certain spots

[cosmic raft]

I guessed good

[fiery tapir]

i'm a cis white dude so the system fucking loves me

[vernal moth]

I feel safer in Germany now that American troops are going home 😂

[minor badge]

lmfao

[fiery tapir]

but i know it isn't even vaguely safe for a looot of other people

[vernal moth]

Bonus points for them building a modern military base with training shit we get to use now I guess ^^

[true canyon]

America's safe in my basement.

[vernal moth]

Only thing that is safe in your basement are kittens

[fiery tapir]

hell, i barely feel safe as the exact group half the shit the GOP does seeks to benefit

regulatory capture of the EPA is genuinely fucking terrifying

[vernal moth]

Stop thinking and watch Fox news

Problem solved

Oh an blame the Mexicans

[cloud pumice]

always those darn mexicans /s

[fiery tapir]

oh how i wish it was easier to just turn my brain off

at least i have animal crossing, that comes pretty close

[vernal moth]

Alternatively move to Europe, lol

[zealous wedge]

luckily covid can infect anyone noobulus

[vernal moth]

Or Canada I guess

[zealous wedge]

our border's closed

[fiery tapir]

if i could dip out, i would

[vernal moth]

You can come here, just need to get tested at the airport

Which is free

Cause like, universal health care

[cosmic raft]

kek

[vernal moth]

Literally Communism

[fiery tapir]

the centerline of american politics is so far to the right that it isn't even funny

democratic candidates that actually get nominated are just fucking centrists

[vernal moth]

Baiden would be part of merkels right leaning party here in Germany

Sanders would be center

[twin lagoon]

mini send pussy pics

[vernal moth]

They are big now :/

[fiery tapir]

oh how i wish i lived somewhere where sanders was considered a centrist

[vernal moth]

I actually just came back from Marens' but her mom was asleep so I couldn't go downstairs

[fiery tapir]

this place is so fucking ass-backwards, it's nuts

[twin lagoon]

mini hates us

[fiery tapir]

only place anyone would even consider flying cars / flying taxis, i can tell you that much

[limber knot]

mini has forsaken us :(

[vernal moth]

Nah, I only hate you Michelle

[fiery tapir]

god i hate the concept of personal air transport so much

[vernal moth]

only place anyone would even consider flying cars / flying taxis, i can tell you that much
@fiery tapir haha, dw, ppl try to promote that here too

[fiery tapir]

just use a fucking train you morons

[unique snow]

I think he'd be considered center in China.

[vernal moth]

This is germany, this country depends on every household buying 2 cars every few years

[fiery tapir]

cars are gloriously inefficient

[cloud pumice]

but fun

[unique snow]

Though they may consider him alt right. //shrug//

[fiery tapir]

car bad
train good

[limber knot]

but vroom vrrom

[vernal moth]

Idk, I don't think my child's will life in a world where everybody has a car

[cloud pumice]

dont touch my car, public transportation is mind numbing and depressing

[vernal moth]

Just autonomous car fleets you rent at most, but even that would be so dum

[fiery tapir]

american public transit sucks

self-driving cars are stupid too

[minor badge]

Sanders would be center

sanders would be right leaning over here lol

[vernal moth]

The days of personal transport are ticking

[cloud pumice]

software controlling my steering wheel while going 130kph? no thank you

[vernal moth]

I rather have a software behind my wheel than the maniacs we have here

[fiery tapir]

it'd be safer than a human doing that but nobody's ever getting convinced of that

[cloud pumice]

until the software is hacked/compromised and everyone goes flying into the guardrail

[vernal moth]

This is germany, ppl causally cruise at 250kmh here

[unique snow]

The problem with self driving cars is the transition, that's it.

[vernal moth]

.wa 250km/h to mile per hour

[fiery tapir]

that reminds me, i wonder how these flying car schemes are gonna hold up the second one crashes and kills a couple dozen pedestrians

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 155.3 mph (miles per hour) - https://is.gd/CKrIqL

[fiery tapir]

self-driving cars have a helluva lot of failure points

[cloud pumice]

and with over the air updates like most of the autonomous car manufacturers have i can see an entire fleet of cars yeeting themselves off cliffs

[unique snow]

You have to have a transitional period where self driving cars are also manually drivable, and you have to incentivize people to use them. i.e. special highways for self driving cars that you can go 150mph etc.

[fiery tapir]

one car goes out of sync and the rest have to react fast

and tbh i barely trust any kind of two-way wireless connection to be consistent

[minor badge]

there will always be people like me who will insist on manually driving because a computer being able to shoot me into a person at 150kmph is a no thank you

[fiery tapir]

wifi has repeatedly disappointed me

[cloud pumice]

there will always be people like me who will insist on manually driving because a computer being able to shoot me into a person at 150kmph is a no thank you
exactly that

[vernal moth]

Idk, just build up public transport and tell ppl to use their bikes for < 2km ways

[fiery tapir]

^^^

[unique snow]

I would agree with you except for the fact people are idiots. 😛

[unreal quarry]

i use my bike for everything

[vernal moth]

Bicycle

Not bike

Sorry ^^

[limber knot]

bicycle races are coming your way

[fiery tapir]

i love biking places, favorite thing about going to a university

[unreal quarry]

eww, manual peddling bicycles?! wth

[vernal moth]

Actually Billy, some places in germany are banning bikes in cities now

[unique snow]

I think having an area where self driving cars can automatically drive is a logical step. Don't allow manually driven vehicles there, or pedestrians.

Use it as a trial.

[limber knot]

bikes are commonly referred to as bicycles here, there's also mopeds and motorcycles

[fiery tapir]

e-bikes are neat

[vernal moth]

Since they are annoyingly loud

[unreal quarry]

i can understand banning the loud ones

mines not that loud

ppl be dumb and put aftermarket pipes on em tho

[unique snow]

The other major factor in self driving cars is agreed standards for conflict resolution.

[unreal quarry]

"loud pipes save lives" is a common motto, but i disagree with it

[vernal moth]

Oh, interesting, I thought you would be one of the loud guys

[fiery tapir]

noise regulations make more sense but blanket bans are easier to enforce

[unique snow]

If they change and a manufacturer decides your car is too old to update..

How can you legally drive it?

[vernal moth]

We have noise regulations, but for some dum reasons bikes are allowed to be louder than cars

[cloud pumice]

@unique snow all of those things are nice and all but none of it solves the problem of compromised software and security

[vernal moth]

Also, Billy, what do you think of proper e bikes?

[unreal quarry]

cops here enforce the noise regulations. they carry around db meters in their squad cars and know how to use them

[fiery tapir]

planned obsolescence of a self-driving car is a con i've never thought about before

[vernal moth]

So like, your bike but a e motor

[unreal quarry]

they'll test your pipes if they think youre too loud

[unique snow]

So you are going to run a per 2000's car? 😛

pre*

[cloud pumice]

1999 rn so yes

[unreal quarry]

e bikes are scary. they're faster than engines from what i've read

[unique snow]

Also I mean, there are reasonable closed systems that can be used for self driving cars also.

[fiery tapir]

tbh i trust anything that's survived since 1999 more than anything a couple years old or even something newer

[vernal moth]

I saw bicycle police towing a big Mercedes cause it was too loud the other day

That was fun

[fiery tapir]

oh can we talk about how godawful elon musk's fucking loop thing is

[vernal moth]

Well, not sure if faster as in top speed, but faster in acceleration for sure

[cloud pumice]

the problem is that most of these cars dont use any of that, nothing is airgapped, everything is OTA with minimal security

[fiery tapir]

it's just combining the shitty parts of both subways and roads

[unique snow]

Yeah, which is why the government needs to decide on a direction for it.

[vernal moth]

Most cars don't even have ota...

[cloud pumice]

talking about self driving cars

[vernal moth]

Gotta go to a service center to get updates

[fiery tapir]

ota?

[vernal moth]

Over the air

[cloud pumice]

over the air

[vernal moth]

Updates

[fiery tapir]

ah

[unique snow]

You also cannot expect every car manufacturer to work with each other if they don't have to.

[vernal moth]

Slef driving cars don't need to talk to each other

[fiery tapir]

i don't really trust really computerized cars

[unique snow]

I think it's pretty dangerous that they allow them at all without some form of agreed standard.

[cloud pumice]

Yeah, which is why the government needs to decide on a direction for it.
and i dont think we need the government to decide shit for a car?

[fiery tapir]

i prefer something just smart enough to get me from point a to point b

[unique snow]

They already do?

For every car manufactured?

[vernal moth]

Why shouldn't the gov work to create standards?

[fiery tapir]

the us government doesn't regulate anything enough imho

[unique snow]

Your car is regulated by the US gov (assuming USA).

[vernal moth]

They are the only ones with enough power to do that

[fiery tapir]

cars get bigger every year to continually skirt emissions regulations

[unique snow]

In fact, regardless of your country, your car is probably manufactured with US standards in mind.

[cloud pumice]

yeah and the only thing car regulations do is fuck with car innovation

[vernal moth]

Cause clearly US standards are the highest, lmao

[unique snow]

Well they actually are in areas.

[vernal moth]

EU sets the standards and US adopts

[unreal quarry]

Seen that I,Robot movie with Will Smith? That's gonna be me, still on a gasoline powered bike in a world of self driving electric vehicles ^_^

[unique snow]

Diesel emissions for example, the US has the highest restrictions of any other nation.

[vernal moth]

We have a dum lobby

Diesel is subsidized in Germany...

[unique snow]

Most cars that pass EU emissions standards don't pass them in the US.

[fiery tapir]

because of some quirk in how the law is written, ford or whoever can meet the continual emissions improvement requirements by increasing the size of every sequential year's f-150 by an inch or so in a couple dimensions

[cloud pumice]

yep

[vernal moth]

Well, VW wrote software to trick our tests

[unique snow]

Regarding diesel, not sure about the other emissions specifically.

[cloud pumice]

nothing to do with actual emissions just small print in the law

[fiery tapir]

i don't trust a private company to do anything how they should without being regulated to fuck

[vernal moth]

We just should tax cars by emissions

[unique snow]

Yeah, and they almost lost the right to sell in the US. Because they lied about it. They admitted guilt at the 11th hour.

[vernal moth]

Or well, tax everything by CO2 emmisions

[fiery tapir]

because they have the money to argue letter of the law versus spirit of the law

[vernal moth]

CO2 Tax is the only thing that really can get this under control

There are really nice models for CO2 taxes, where you actually get money for saving co2

[fiery tapir]

oh how i would love to see some big carbon footprints get taxed to shit

[vernal moth]

Am counting on the EU to do stuff

[kindred storm]

And cap and trade

[vernal moth]

The EU is cool, since it's a scape goat for national govs

[unreal quarry]

Speaking of standards.. Most motorcycle helmets that pass the US DOT standards don't pass the EU standards like ECE. I don't like either of those standards, though, and only ride with a SNELL approved helmet :3

[vernal moth]

So EU can pass unpopular but nessasary laws

That member states couldn't pass since they wouldn't be reelected

[fiery tapir]

relying on the government to do anything here in america is just asking to get your privates stomped by the private sector

we're at the point of regulatory capture just about everywhere

[unique snow]

Eh, the problem is you'll never get China to do it. Realistically the best way to handle that is massively tariff the hell out of them until they do.

[cloud pumice]

i always cringe when i see people riding in shorts and a shirt with a helmet that barely passes standards

[vernal moth]

If you tax by carbon emission, China will need to adopt to stay competitive in price

It's easy

Don't need tariffs

[kindred storm]

Yes

[fiery tapir]

FCC's useless, department of education is useless, wouldn't be surprised if the FAA's going to shit, and the EPA is probably concerning weak

[unique snow]

I mean it's theoretically positive to reduce it, as it'll slow things down. But until China is on board.

[kindred storm]

It is positive

Not theoretically, in reality

[fiery tapir]

because for some reason, public opinion is that de-regulation somehow increases innovation

[vernal moth]

Saying we can't do shit because china doesn't do shit is so stupid

[kindred storm]

Then nothing happens, big surprise

[vernal moth]

Do whatever is in your power

[fiery tapir]

instead of just allowing for terrible people to do bad shit and not change because the government is turning a blind eye to their BS

[kindred storm]

For all China's flaws, it was another country which pulled out of the paris agreement

[fiery tapir]

was there an issue with the paris agreement or am i misunderstanding that?

[vernal moth]

It was already non binding

Just like, let's try to make this better

[kindred storm]

There was no issue

[vernal moth]

And Trump was like, naaaaah

[unique snow]

The Paris agreement was "targets" or "goals".

[vernal moth]

Fuck dis

[kindred storm]

It was just the leadership of a certain country being stupid

The paris agreement was step 0 or -1 : agreeing to try to do something

[vernal moth]

Let's just hope trump is gone in 100 days

Or whatever is left

[fiery tapir]

he will be but the lasting effects won't

[vernal moth]

Can work to fix it tho

[fiery tapir]

because some reason people still think that appointing supreme court justices for life is a good idea

[vernal moth]

I mean, he fucked your whole society, but it was also fucked before soooo

[fiery tapir]

yeah but when our choices are centrists and far-right fucks what can you do

[vernal moth]

Imagine having a president that divides your country

[fiery tapir]

honestly we're just hoping we can bully biden into doing something good

[void void]

^

[fiery tapir]

then again he's gonna have to spend like half his presidency undoing everything trump's done

[unreal quarry]

too much politics, not enough bike talk

vroom vroom

[void void]

No

Rood

[vernal moth]

Enough politics, time to sleep

[worn ember]

gnite

[fiery tapir]

and honestly the bully biden strategy is kinda working, he's started to take some pointers from bernie's rhetoric

nite

[vernal moth]

It's 2:20 and tomorrows gonna be the hottest day of the year yet

[void void]

Birds not bikes

[worn ember]

today has been insane too

[unreal quarry]

you cant ride birds, tho..

[fiery tapir]

birbs! birds are great. very weird fellows

not with that attitude

[fallen oracle]

You can in purpur

[void void]

U can if they big enough

Or you have enough of them

[worn ember]

you can ride them once

then they sqashed

[void void]

Ohno

[fiery tapir]

anything is edible

[void void]

Tru

[unique snow]

USA will not make a move in any positive direction until people are willing to consider the viewpoints of others. The polarization by the media right now is very dangerous.

[fiery tapir]

Once.

yeah media aiming for viewership instead of factual reporting is quite bad

[unique snow]

People are too quick to label one way or another.

[fiery tapir]

same reason why social media is dangerous, it makes money off of you liking the echo chamber it puts you in

[void void]

People are just really stupid

[unique snow]

100%. You're also shooting yourself in the foot by not understanding an opposing viewpoint if you actually want to debate it.

[fiery tapir]

and that's kinda a failure of the american education system too

[worn ember]

people just dont like change 🙂

[fiery tapir]

we aren't taught how to think critically at all

[void void]

I think it's a failure of the previous generation

[worn ember]

maybe you arent lol

[void void]

The last two generations are heavily tech focused

[unique snow]

I feel both sides of politics and their supporters are like this, speaking generally about the loudest of sides.

[fiery tapir]

my girlfriend also made it through high school while never learning that you need to put a condom on while erect so i have very little faith in that system

[worn ember]

[void void]

What's worse is now is not the time for political reform, we need to fix the damn planet.

[cloud pumice]

the american education system is a joke lmao

[unique snow]

Also I think the freedom to have an opinion and express it is something that should be a guarded right.

[worn ember]

just buy more guns and shut up /s

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge https://owo.whats-th.is/AaaUKPR.png

very epic yes

[unique snow]

Yeah, I think the education system is probably the key to fixing a lot of the west's issues.

[void void]

Now your both just spouting off the constitution instead of contributing

[vernal moth]

See, I like to think that I am a fairly empathic fellah, trying to understand the other side.
But when the other site doesn't give a shit about basic human rights by acting racist or homophobic or sexist or whatever, I am physically unable to understand their side

[void void]

STFU Micheal, my uwu is far superior

[fiery tapir]

education needs a big overhaul

[void void]

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon uwu

[fiery tapir]

and betsy devos and everyone vaguely related to her needs to be in prison

[unique snow]

I think that you're going to struggle to get everyone to agree if the political system isn't fixed.

[worn ember]

same mini

[twin lagoon]

https://proximyst.is-a-good-waifu.com/AaaUKPR.png

[worn ember]

i'll listen to whatever you have to say within reason

[minor badge]

😳

[unique snow]

Not saying that is correct, but I believe it's a reality.

[vernal moth]

I just read that Amazon doubled their profit due to corona

Doubled

[worn ember]

yes

who was it that bought fucking erasers on amazon here?

barty or something

like what the actual fuck <.<

[cosmic raft]

lol

[cloud pumice]

whats wrong with that?

[vernal moth]

Support local stores

Not bezos

[worn ember]

the fact you need to ask that

[cloud pumice]

bruh what local stores

[vernal moth]

Like, don't get me wrong, I am a prime costumer

[shell vine]

local stores

[vernal moth]

But when its possible I just go to local stores

[worn ember]

i havent ordered anything from amazon in my life

[shell vine]

like walmart

[cloud pumice]

local stores dont have same day delivery and low prices

[unkempt drift]

lol

[worn ember]

wtf

[unreal quarry]

its ok. congress is breaking them up

[worn ember]

do you go to the store to look at shit or something?

instead of buying it

[unreal quarry]

should have seen bezos' face at the end when the ruling came down lol was priceless

[vernal moth]

I gladly pay 5ct premium on my eraser on the small store across the street than giving that money to bezos

[fiery tapir]

oh word?

i didn't pay attention to that hearing, what's going on?

[cloud pumice]

no i order it online so i dont have to waste hours of my time going to different "local shops" to get what i need

[cosmic raft]

I've made 4 purchases on Amazon this year

Like 4 or 5 last year

[unreal quarry]

congress rules all 4 as monopolies and said some will be broken up and all will need more regulations

[fiery tapir]

the problem with amazon is that it's incredibly consumer-friendly while being a nightmare for everyone else

[unreal quarry]

details coming in the next few months while they decide how to proceed

[fiery tapir]

hell yeah

actual good things happening

[cosmic raft]

doubt much will happen in the end :p

[cunning raft]

https://i.imgur.com/2CxQ7s2.png

fuck

[fiery tapir]

yeah honestly

[vernal moth]

How, lol

[fiery tapir]

they've got the money to buy out half the place

[vernal moth]

Do you order gorcercies on Amazon?

[cunning raft]

i order a shit ton

yes

[cosmic raft]

wtf do you buy

[cunning raft]

most of the time

[vernal moth]

Why would you buy groceries on Amazon......

[cunning raft]

cheaper

i did the math

[fiery tapir]

lobbying should be illegal, end of story

[worn ember]

"why bezos so rich"
also literally buys everything on amazon

[unique snow]

Depends on what the regulations are as to if they are good. Also think the economy is fragile at present so treading lightly would be wise.

[fiery tapir]

i mean yeah but the exploitation of their factory workers is a big issue

[vernal moth]

lobbying should be illegal, end of story
@fiery tapir lol, no. Politicians need to be talking to the industry. It just needs to be transparent and not one sided

[cunning raft]

^

[unique snow]

Yeah I can agree with that.

[cunning raft]

google for example lobbies in good ways most of the time

[unique snow]

Especially Apple.

[cunning raft]

ACLU lobbies

a bunch of good people lobby!

[vernal moth]

Yeah, you have stuff like ACLU to drive the other side

[fiery tapir]

true, just a wierd concept for me to wrap my head around

[vernal moth]

It's just politicians talking to ppl affected by the laws they pass, nothing wrong with that

[unique snow]

Amazon also does a lot of good for the economy.

[fiery tapir]

the concept of paying somebody to change laws that effect millions of people seems like it could be easily corruptible

[vernal moth]

What's wrong is lobbyists literally writing drafts for laws that then get passed without changes

[unique snow]

I don't think I'd argue either company is exactly 'good' though.

[cunning raft]

the concept of paying somebody to change laws that effect millions of people seems like it could be easily corruptible
@fiery tapir it's not that straight forward

[velvet garden]

gonna be a long night

[worn ember]

imo google is the "best" of those but yeah

not great

[unique snow]

Well.. the data...

[cunning raft]

google doesn't lobby for bad 99% of the time

[worn ember]

google has their morals right

[unique snow]

To me their 'morals' seem like a front.

[fiery tapir]

google isn't letting facial recognition get out of hand and i respect that a lot

but yeah they're still doing shady shit behind the scenes

[cunning raft]

well there's always the 1% but yes at least google doesn't sell face recognition tech

like amazon

runs

[unique snow]

The fact you can have a conversation about something you've never talked about in your life.. then it comes up in your news feed.

[fiery tapir]

there's also that one startup or whatever that's trying to sell it

[unique snow]

Like it's obvious they're listening to everything you say.

[cunning raft]

not that simple

they can't do that

[fiery tapir]

my gf and i did a little experiment with that one time, talked about knife sharpeners for a while and the second ad i got on youtube was for when

never got any before

[cunning raft]

that it largely just a type of conformation bias

[unique snow]

Yep.

[cunning raft]

the times when its not

is probably an assistant missfire

[unique snow]

I talked about a specific car brand. Guess which brand that doesn't exist in my country came up in the feed?

[void void]

U can check when the assistant does anything too

[fiery tapir]

true but when i know google sees everything i type i'm gonna be just a little bit suspicious

[void void]

And hear all the audio clips

[cunning raft]

whatever you say, but there's no way they can be listening to you 100% all the time and using it for ads ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

Indeed

[cunning raft]

it's against their privacy policy

they'd get in legal trouble if they did it

[fiery tapir]

i suppose they'd get the shit sued out of them if they violated that

[cunning raft]

yeah

people will know if they did that

[void void]

Google does fend to generally actually care. They demonstrate this regularly in how they interact publicly, how they design their services, and how they handle pr

[worn ember]

i remember that article about a women getting ads about baby stuff before she even knew she was pregnant

[cunning raft]

thousands of security researchers are, at this very moment, reverse engineering every version of every bit of software google makes

it would be found in practice

i remember that article about a women getting ads about baby stuff before she even knew she was pregnant :kek:
@worn ember it was Target and they sent her coupons :p

[fiery tapir]

at the very least, they realize that people like a respectable, responsive company way better than one that isn't such

[worn ember]

yeah

[cunning raft]

actually cool that their AI worked

[worn ember]

bit too well xD

thats kinda creepy tbh

[void void]

But let's talk about gpt3

[cunning raft]

i think vsauce did a vid on the target thing

[void void]

Yeah he did

[cunning raft]

or at least mentioned it in a vid

[void void]

Dumb out of frame hoe

[fiery tapir]

musk-backed
sigh

haha apartheid emerald mines go brrrrrr

i like elon's companies and the things their engineers do

i, however, do not like elon himself

[velvet garden]

@spare venture --forceUpgrade

1.15.2 -> 1.16.1

[fiery tapir]

he'd be cool if he'd shut the fuck up on twitter lmao

[void void]

Whether or not you like Musk, his products are incredibly disruptive. And will change our society drastically over the next few decades

[cunning raft]

elon is a shitposter lol

[cosmic raft]

?

[lament patio]

He'd be cool if he was a better person

[cunning raft]

don't take em seriously

[void void]

If he has to stop using Twitter then so do you.

[velvet garden]

@spare venture why tho o__O

[cosmic raft]

^

[cunning raft]

and he is a good person. good people can make shitty 240 word tweets

[fiery tapir]

sounds good to me, i have tweeted exactly two times

[void void]

Sometimes peeps just wanna shitpost

No the point is that he's welcome to say whatever he wants on the internet as much as you are now

[cunning raft]

@cosmic raft aikar says not to use it 👀

[fiery tapir]

shitposting about stimulus checks being a bad idea and all that doesn't really look that good honestly

[cunning raft]

did you read what he said?

[void void]

That's like me, a radon stranger telling you to STFU on discord. Because I don't like your profile picture

[cosmic raft]

where does he say that?

[void void]

He didn't read the tweet he's referencing

[cunning raft]

he said he didn't like them because of special interests

he's for UBI as well

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1286673686821515266

Elon Musk (@elonmusk)

Another government stimulus package is not in the best interests of the people imo

Retweets

13722

Likes

146928

Twitter

read the entire damn thread

[void void]

He also clearly stated it's his opinion, albeit his educated and we'll informed opinion

So it's literally illogical to say he's wrong.

[fiery tapir]

oh okay just looks like shit but isn't

[kindred storm]

No

Opinions can be wrong

What

[void void]

That said he also has a heavy education in economics.

[kindred storm]

So do a lot of crackpots

[void void]

Opinions can't be wrong because it has nothing to do with fact.

It's about what they think is real

Just like your opinion

[fiery tapir]

can't say i still like the guy personally but you guys make good points about actually reading the shit i reference

[kindred storm]

Opinions are wrong all the time

[cunning raft]

elon is taken out of context a lot

[void void]

It's sorta fun to take him out of context tho

[fiery tapir]

well yeah but you can't really prove opinions is what he's getting at

[kindred storm]

You think something, but what you think is wrong

It's definitely not a fact, but it's wrong nonetheless

[cunning raft]

A2, what elon said is not a provable fact

[kindred storm]

I didn't say that

I'm just pointing out that opinions can be plenty wrong

[void void]

I think that humanity as a species is likely to die within the next decade and that I want to spent as much of it as possible doing whatever makes me happy

[kindred storm]

"Opinions can't be wrong" makes no sense

[cunning raft]

imo, it does

[fiery tapir]

thinking spigot is better than paper is not an opinion most of us would agree with, but it's still an opinion

[cunning raft]

^

[void void]

An opinion is a conclusion, derived from your knowledge of an event.

[fiery tapir]

you can disagree with an opinion but you can't prove one

[kindred storm]

Conclusions are wrong all the time

[void void]

Everyone's knowledge and experiences are different

[kindred storm]

So what?

[fiery tapir]

you can't prove that, say, apples are objectively the best fruit

[void void]

Meaning there's 8billion different combinations of any given event

Meaning there's no such thing as absolute truth

Just relative truth

[kindred storm]

That's not accurate

There are no constants

but it depends on what you mean by "absolute truth"

[cunning raft]

i mean now we're getting into philosophy

[void void]

Yep

[kindred storm]

Where else would we go? 🙂

[cunning raft]

but "opinions" which can be proved wrong aren't opinions

they're misguided facts

[void void]

An absolute truth simply being a fact accepted by or supported by Everything

Anyone recommend a good "Clear Chat on Join" Plugin

[kindred storm]

You don't need to prove an opinion wrong for it to be wrong

[void void]

I recommend the following:
||

||

Thanks

[cunning raft]

You don't need to prove an opinion wrong for it to be wrong
@kindred storm one that is wrong has already been proven wrong

[serene bolt]

moderators

[void void]

That's a gross way to accomplish that

[kindred storm]

No

[cunning raft]

you're fighting semantics

[void void]

Make the image transparent

Whats happening guys I want to get in the discusion

[kindred storm]

You don't need to prove something to be wrong for it to be wrong

It's just wrong

You can't prove it. But it is

You may not know it's wrong

[cunning raft]

you're fighting semantics, you've done this since your first conversation here

[kindred storm]

i'm not trying to fight anything. i don't want you to misunderstand

[void void]

That's why I stopped discussing the subject.

[cunning raft]

we both are talking about the same thing

[kindred storm]

well, yeah

this is the same topic

[cunning raft]

you always pick on a small detail and fight about only that

[kindred storm]

you're still misunderstand

[void void]

It's a logic fallacy

[kindred storm]

i'm not fighting anything

details matter, words matter.

[cunning raft]

you always do this when you're about to be proven wrong

[kindred storm]

totally

[void void]

Your doing it now but targeting the specificity of you aren't fighting anyone.

[kindred storm]

what am I about to be proven wrong about? haha

[void void]

Nothing

[cunning raft]

jfc i wish wiz would have just banned you when you pissed him off the first day you got here

[void void]

I have no desire to impose my opinion on yours further.

[kindred storm]

sometimes i don't understand you jroy

[worn ember]

[void void]

I'm going back to dyescape. Bai

Also spigot is superior

[worn ember]

laughs async

[cosmic raft]

[limber knot]

hopefully this isnt bad https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RP8KBrID/image.png

[cosmic raft]

[warm hornet]

<,<

[vagrant niche]

thats a big log

[shell vine]

😏

[worn ember]

cant be helped

[limber knot]

idk why it counts everything as an erro

[fiery tapir]

how much text does it take to reach 248mb

[limber knot]

can i check line count without opening?

got it, 2292957 lines

[unique snow]

If UTF-8 it's probably 248 million chars. 😛

[limber knot]

you're in luck i can count chars

248,592,799 chars

holy crap u right

[unique snow]

UTF-8 stores 1 char per 8 bits (byte) at minimum.

[slim nymph]

eh

[unique snow]

If you were using UTF-16 it'd likely be half that many chars, or if you converted that to UTF-16 it would double in size.

[slim nymph]

thats kind of misleading to say

[limber knot]

oh i remember why it's so large

[slim nymph]

utf8 can represent a character with 32bits

[limber knot]

I forgot to install a gem and it auto-restarted 590,000 times before i found out and fixed it

[unique snow]

Correct, that's why I said at minimum

[slim nymph]

its just not fixed size

oh i missed the at min part

ive cut my caffeine intake in half ; ;

[unique snow]

Guess I didn't make it clear.. was also taking into account the log would only contain 8 bit chars.

[slim nymph]

brains dying this late

[zealous wedge]

nice log chew

[limber knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450233394396397568/717564085209661530/unknown.png

[unique snow]

Or likely would only contain 8 bit chars.

[limber knot]

your honor i would like to plead oopsie daisies

[slim nymph]

you know though, im more worried about B Vitamins than Caffeine lol

[unique snow]

Eh, it's good to be specific, and he isn't wrong 😛

[slim nymph]

B Vits the real danger in 5 hrs O.O

[limber knot]

I just realized the pm2 logs are useless, let's check production.log

[cold pumice]

o.o

[limber knot]

Now THAT'S what I call music 96 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aZqR4Wtp/image.png

[unborn jay]

How eula compliant is selling a "builder's wand"? Item that lets you place many blocks at once. I wanna make sure

[unreal quarry]

if unsure, do it anyways, cause no one cares

[limber knot]

i assume this is a creative server or something?

[unborn jay]

Survival

[limber knot]

can people get it for free and/or does it give a potentially unfair advantage?

regardless it's okay unless you have 500+ players lol

[unborn jay]

eh, thank you! might be an unfair advantage in the

[barren whale]

if it's an unfair advantage it's not legal

[unborn jay]

way, everyone can craft it,it costs the same, but doesn't work if you arent a donor

[barren whale]

but the eula isn't really enforced unfortunately

[worn ember]

its not illegal if you dont get caught

[limber knot]

unless you're a big server

[barren whale]

so you probably can get away with it

I'm not gonna suggest it

but like

yeah

[cloud pumice]

way, everyoen can craft it,it costs the same, but doesn't work if you arent a donor
@unborn jay that would still mean it doesnt work for regular players

so the everyone can craft it its just useless doesnt make it compliant

[unique snow]

Wait is there some MC Cabal that sets rules for all servers?

[unborn jay]

Yes, The EULA

[worn ember]

[limber knot]

it's fun to stay at the E U L A

[cloud pumice]

https://account.mojang.com/terms#commercial

[worn ember]

the thing you gotta accept when you start ur server...

[slim nymph]

you get blacklisted and have fun losing a significant chunk of players and new players

most people arent gonn want to install some special client to connect,

unless you fight the fight to use the bypss

[unique snow]

I mean, I never plan to sell anything, but that seems like such a strange rule.

[muted storm]

its not illegal if you dont get caught
easily some of the worst advice I've ever seen

[unborn jay]

My server is offline anyways, and chilean. A must be if you are latino

[limber knot]

i used to be discord admin on for a minecraft server's discord and that happened to them like 3 times lmao

[worn ember]

hold up

random choco

[slim nymph]

your allowed to sell advantages if the server is not competitive

[fallen oracle]

Did we already do our daily political talk today yet?

[slim nymph]

the eula rules mainly apply to competitive servers only

[cloud pumice]

yes we did

[unique snow]

Yeah makes sense.

[worn ember]

we did like 20 glare

keep up

[fallen oracle]

I assume over Trump saying we should delay the election?

[cloud pumice]

not yet

lets go

[limber knot]

donate and lose all your items immediately

[slim nymph]

well wanna add more? Trumper logic has resulted in the death of Herman Cain now

[fallen oracle]

I saw that

[cloud pumice]

who tf is that

[unborn jay]

Nah, my server is just a friendly survival server. Players could ask a donor to build them something, i know my community

[slim nymph]

previous republican presidential candidate

[worn ember]

you really had to ask huh glare

[limber knot]

any trump supports or defenders? i'd rather have a kind, respectul debate than just hear everyone say "trump bad" and everyone agreeing

[unreal quarry]

i'm a supporter, chew. i just stay quiet most of the time cause i'm outnumbered here

[worn ember]

he's a goo lugh

[slim nymph]

very much so 😛

[vagrant niche]

Hail trump

[limber knot]

according to the PBNG you have to be respectful 😄

[worn ember]

*good luagh

i give up

[cloud pumice]

imagine having a clown in office

[slim nymph]

id rather a clown

would be nicer than trump

[fallen oracle]

Sry my daily msg count was low

[cloud pumice]

yeah ur right sorry

[limber knot]

woah no ad hominums please

or however it's spelled

ad hominem

i was close

[shell vine]

i hate both sides equally

[unique snow]

Well I am not particularly pro Trump, and don't particularly like him, but I think the media is rather.. how to say it.. insane about instantly hating everything he does?

[slim nymph]

hes not really done anything positive to comment on?

like almost everything hes done has been horrible

[unique snow]

And outright deceitful in many situations.

What do you think about the crackdown on China?

[slim nymph]

i struggle to think of anything hes done to help

and how has trying to start a massive trade war that has greatly harmed our countries economics been a good thing?

[limber knot]

137,425 "Unauthorized" responses in the API hmm

[unique snow]

Well, I look at it from a human rights perspective. For example if you consider the prisoners of conscience in China being harvested for organs against their will.

[slim nymph]

um, nothing trump did would help that

[limber knot]

well

[slim nymph]

nor anything he could do

[unique snow]

Well, being soft on them wouldn't be helpful either.

[limber knot]

let me find the clip

[cloud pumice]

being soft or hard on them literally doesnt change a thing

[worn ember]

He can press the red button

[slim nymph]

nor do i recall him even bringing that up either

[unique snow]

Yeah.. and no one wants the red button.

Yeah I can agree with that.

I think he's focusing on their economic war efforts.

[vagrant niche]

Just shut up and vote

[limber knot]

about the camps in china (https://youtu.be/17oCQakzIl8?t=1125) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4SVnBZbj/image.png

[unique snow]

Though, I can't say that with certainty due to.. his faculties.

[slim nymph]

when hes even butting heads with fox news, maybe its not really the media....

[unique snow]

Well with Chris Wallace, he's pretty hard on whoever is in power.

[worn ember]

Or is it. Maybe he's the only same person and you're all insane

[unique snow]

Unless I missed something 😛

[worn ember]

Murica is moving their military base to Belgium from Germany : pepehands:

[unique snow]

I'm not American so take my opinion with that in mind.

I also think the fact that the FBI/FISA/Steele stuff in the SJC has been overshadowed lately is rather strange.

On face value it looks worse than Watergate.

[slim nymph]

SJC?

[unique snow]

Senate Judiciary Committee

Summary: investigation into Flynn was based on the Steele/FusionGPS dossier, FBI didn't find them credible due to links to DNC, members of the FBI introduced it via backchannels, FBI asked CIA for corroboration in an email, CIA says no evidence in responding email, FBI says to FISA court "CIA says there is evidence", here is the email we totally didn't doctor.

Last thing that came to light is it's alleged/appearing like the Steele dossier was literally rumors from people in the US.

I don't know how much of that is credible, but it seems like the CIA email and the FBI's application for the warrant is almost certifiable.

[slim nymph]

what is the goal of this investigation?

i havent followed that

[true canyon]

The dossier was a mix of all sorts of intel. There are articles describing which parts have been corroborated at this point, and which parts seem more in the rumor category.

[unique snow]

Well it seems like the FBI has both perjured itself in the FISA court to get a wiretap warrant to spy on US citizens. The intent is allegedly a political investigation, but that's a bit hard to prove.

Do you have a link? I'm actually interested.

[true canyon]

To do that I'd be googling just as you would at this point. I don't keep that stuff bookmarked.

[unique snow]

Ah okay, I'll take a look thanks for letting me know.

@void void I'd say the main things of note are performance related, and it removes many duplication glitches.

[unreal quarry]

@void void https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/tree/master/Spigot-Server-Patches

[true canyon]

A bunch of those patches have cool descriptions

[limber knot]

thats cool

[serene bolt]

aikars patches always have so much information in them, I usually prefer it to the actual documentation :P

[limber knot]

a novel

[serene bolt]

I will always prefer too much information over not enough information, more knowledge never hurts!

[limber knot]

as long as it's not like "This new command is a brand new command, you can run it and it will do something brand new, never before seen"

[unique snow]

I don't know, I have read documentation so verbose that to find a solution to a problem it was easier to tinker. Not specifically in this community.

Though I think that's really rare, lack of documentation or general bad documentation quality is the most common thing.

[true canyon]

Well there's always the shining example of DFU's documentation of ten published papers https://github.com/Mojang/DataFixerUpper#references

[serene bolt]

oh dear

[fallen oracle]

Just means that paper needs 20

[shell vine]

But does it work

[cosmic raft]

fuxking dying

so hot

[limber knot]

how hot

[limber knot]

thats slightly above freezing for us

if it were fahrenheit

[unreal quarry]

.wa 34 C to F

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 93.2 °F (degrees Fahrenheit) - https://is.gd/JVjVqj

[fallen oracle]

More light queue updates

[stiff yarrow]

[limber knot]

ah that's slightly colder than us

we're at 100℉

[unreal quarry]

that aint too bad. it was 105F here today

.wa 105 F to C

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 40.56 °C (degrees Celsius) - https://is.gd/bnCjjj

ahh 108 tabs

how do they keep multiplying

[vagrant niche]

.wa hours until 12AM PST

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 4.718 hours - Time span: 0.1966 days, 283.1 minutes, 16983 seconds - https://is.gd/WWzrSJ

[vagrant niche]

yay

[limber knot]

only 108 tabs?

you seed wole

i had 600 at one point

nice lmao

s/seed wole/need more

Correction, <zml> you need more

(btw)

i was wondering wtf you meant lmao

yeah uh i switched away before actually reading my message soo...

down to 79, good enough

only like 20 or so are actually open

active rather

you need to do better

200 tab minimum

https://www.reddit.com/r/toomanytabs/comments/9b4ak7/hmm_which_window_should_i_move_this_tab_to/

(chew) Hmm, which window should I move this tab to? : toomanytabs - 0 comments, 1 point - Chewsterchew, 1y ago

beautiful, keep that up

how do i unarchive a post

"archive after 6 months" is bs

complain that reddit is suppressing free speech /s

[cosmic raft]

aaaand home

[limber knot]

wb

we would never suppress free speech on memerator

worldborder?

anyway welcome back

wb = welcome back

then why does everyone use wb as worldborder

because they're wrong

ah ok

I'll let them know

i hate that bot, it keeps dming me like all the time

every time i interact with it pretty much

i have it blocked at this point

in fact i only have 3 users blocked and theyre all bots

i don't block people because it's rude and seeing "1 blocked messages" is 1000% more annoying than whatever they have to say

im always curious so i peek and ssee it anyway so whats the point

i have to break the tos to actually hide the messages lmao

[tired heath]

what's up

[limber knot]

meh i have a bunch of ppl blocked

me? 😢

[void void]

wtf-ing at php is up

<?php

  //You can even add more Dollar Signs

  $Bar = "a";
  $Foo = "Bar";
  $World = "Foo";
  $Hello = "World";
  $a = "Hello";

  $a; //Returns Hello
  $$a; //Returns World
  $$$a; //Returns Foo
  $$$$a; //Returns Bar
  $$$$$a; //Returns a

  $$$$$$a; //Returns Hello
  $$$$$$$a; //Returns World

  //... and so on ...//

?>

[limber knot]

i don't have you blocked chew~

see on IRC i can ignore people and their messages never show up

i would never

[void void]

https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.variable.php

[limber knot]

like i'd never know if they spoke

:3

that's how it should be

but discord is a meanie

[tired heath]

Well this is actually known as state of the art coding style, you should use at least 6 $ per var to pronounce its varibleness

Will cause the php interpreter to run 30% faster

[limber knot]

how many memerator achievements do you have zml

none i haven't made an account :(

does anyone know how to use the new chatcomponent hover api for itemstacks?

i have this class net.md_5.bungee.api.chat.hover.content.Item, but how do i set the content of an itemstack to it?

there was an API PR adding that

there's another PR that will be opened soon that adds a more elegant way to do that

ur missing out then zml it's a jam

ok, so at the moment its not useable?

[void void]

basically yeah

[limber knot]

ok

[void void]

unless you want to wrestle with nms

[zealous wedge]

the NMS way is not that bad, but it is still not super pleasant

[void void]

of course

[limber knot]

yes nms is what i did before.. i just thought there might be a better way as there is now a specialized "Item" content class

this is md5 we're talking about here, why would you expect anything better?

[limber knot]

secure? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uH30T7fM/image.png

[serene bolt]

need a number at the end to make it more secure

may I recommend 123

[void void]

just do like this: a1B2c3D4e5

and if it requires a symbol, add dot to the end

oops i just leaked my paypal password

smh my head

[serene bolt]

$7! I'm rich!

[limber knot]

sonic maurice hedgehog my head?

i don't get it

[void void]

it's just smh my head

[limber knot]

but smh stands for sonic maurice hedgehog

[void void]

.g sonic maurice hedgehog

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://archiesonic.fandom.com/wiki/Maurice_Hedgehog -- Maurice Hedgehog | Mobius Encyclopaedia | Fandom: "Sonic's middle name was revealed as Maurice shortly after StH #50; his first name wasn't given in canon, though former head writer Ken Penders..."

[void void]

let's imagine it means that

sure!

[limber knot]

the word part about being a data analyst is when the data aint good

[cosmic raft]

Move over Paper

https://i.imgur.com/QhxRjpS.png

[limber knot]

beta 1.1 lmao

[cosmic raft]

:-)

[limber knot]

is that spigot

[cosmic raft]

hMod :)

[limber knot]

i didn't realize there was beta servers

gotta update the wiki server.properties history now

[serene bolt]

the good old hmod days

wooden shovel land claims!

[cosmic raft]

#Minecraft server properties
#Thu Jul 30 20:24:39 PDT 2020
level-name=world
hellworld=false
spawn-monsters=true
max-players=20
server-ip=
online-mode=true
pvp=true
spawn-animals=true
server-port=25565
plugins=

here's the file

some of it is from hMod

[serene bolt]

the truly simple days...........

[cosmic raft]

good old permissions too

#Add your groups here (When adding your entry DO NOT include #!)
#The format is:
#NAME:COLOR:COMMANDS:INHERITEDGROUPS:ADMIN/UNRESTRICTED
#For administrative powers set admin/unrestricted to 2.
#For no restrictions and ability to give out items set it to 1.
#If you don't want the group to be able to build set it to -1.
#Inherited groups and admin/unrestricted are optional.
#Examples:
admins:c:*:mods:2
mods:b:/ban,/kick,/item,/tp,/tphere,/s,/i,/give:vip:1
vip:a::default
default:f:/help,/sethome,/home,/spawn,/me,/msg,/kit,/playerlist,/warp,/motd,/compass,/tell,/m,/who:default

[serene bolt]

I remember when bukkit first came out and didn't have permission handling, so many people were like wtf!!! hmod has it and it lets you assign to groups!!

or my favorite, "where's the home command?"

[cosmic raft]

hehe

@serene bolt https://i.imgur.com/hMLcUgk.png

[limber knot]

so hmod was a server implementation?

[cosmic raft]

good old level format too

[serene bolt]

oh god the level format that makes windows die

I remember even like smallish world had like 100k files

[cosmic raft]

kek

[limber knot]

anyone know why when I click the screen the entire window just blanks out? running c0.30_01c

[cosmic raft]

hehe pure

@echo off
"%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar Minecraft_Mod.jar nogui
pause

[serene bolt]

oh boy

well at least with 1gb of ram, you can hold a million players

[limber knot]

so whatever happened to hMod

[cosmic raft]

even back in beta 1.1 everyone hated the stupid fucking gui

:p

[serene bolt]

I hate when I forgot to add nogui on windows :(

a blinding white box says "Hello" every time

and I say "No"

so whatever happened to hMod
fell out of relevancy basically

I know CanaryMod or whatever was sort of born out of it, but that died off eventually too

[pulsar wigeon]

no, the dude moved on and people decided to make bukkit instead of continuing it

[limber knot]

interesting

any other forks of craftbukkit that showed up?

[pulsar wigeon]

(well, the people who wanted to continue it made canary etc instead - those never entered relevancy due to bukkit)

also what do you mean by other forks

[limber knot]

well spigot is a fork right?

[pulsar wigeon]

hmod predated bukkit lol

[cosmic raft]

kek

want to know something fun?

see GroupManager's package (https://github.com/ElgarL/GroupManager/tree/master/src/org/anjocaido/groupmanager)

org.anjocaido right?

[void void]

yes

[cosmic raft]

https://sites.google.com/site/anjocaidomc/

[void void]

ohhhh minecraftsp

my first mc launcher

[serene bolt]

oh wow I remember everyone using that launcher

[cosmic raft]

hehe

[limber knot]

does intellij have a pdf ide

[cosmic raft]

wat

[serene bolt]

what

[limber knot]

like something to edit pdf files

[serene bolt]

I want to learn to code PDF!

don't think so chew

[limber knot]

Jetbrains Office

[void void]

if jetbrains does not do that then...

.g emacs pdf editor

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/49/how-to-view-and-edit-pdf-files-in-emacs -- How to view and edit pdf files in emacs? - Emacs Stack...: "Sep 23, 2014 ... You can give a try to pdf-tools, which provides most of the requested functionality."

[void void]

wtf

[limber knot]

Ah yes, who needs Word, Powerpoint, and Excel when you have Characters, Presentation, and DataBoard

powered by the IntelliJ platform

[void void]

are you high

[limber knot]

high on poteneuse

[cloud pumice]

adobe acrobat :)

[limber knot]

yep https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Mu0o6iTf/image.png

might just print it out

why the hell do i need fingerprints to change my name

what is this

AND it's $10

[cloud pumice]

bc adobe