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what also is convenient is alt+insert on intellij tho
im scared if I see it and think it's good i'll use it
that's the lombok trap
yeah don't wanna fall into it
hi proxi
uwu
uwu
how u
how do I accept class as parameter in generic type? 
so like Class<Other.class>
is it even proper usage?
Class<Other>?
Hash<Map>
a cool feature would be a Map of a generic type to another generic type, where the generic type of the key is equal to that of the value
what
Map<T, Class<T>> works
particularly if you have a Map<Class<?>, ?> or something like that
no, but the generic type is different for each key-value entry
essentially a map of instances, keyed by class
you kind of just have to enforce that with accessors methods
^
but what would that be used for? can't imagine
yeah i know i can just cast, but then i have to suppress "unchecked cast" warnings
Minecraft services status viewer - check if Minecraft's servers are acting up.
well i would obviously do an instance check on insert, but not retrieval
f?
???
!!!
?!?!?!
ultimate goal is 0
smh

actually toxic
ye he was
I'm trying to run minecraft with java 11 and 14, but I keep getting a crash on startup saying unable to call bootstrap (I linked the proper javaw.exe). Anyone else?
He doesn't have mod role but he can still ban you if you talk shit
Didn't have any issues GamerHD.
can he?
i think lax should be mod
Just updated from jdk 11.0.7 to 11.0.8 and started happening..
gamerhd which paper version u try to get working?
Client
ah
Did you try turning it off and on again?
Yeah xD
Your PC? Maybe it didn't update some references somewhere or some weird shit.
Got a framework update pending, will try it
Lax being a mod here 

The bad news, I have to do a Magento project in between and pause my work on the open arena plugin and my server, the good news, I have to do a Magento project and will be in able to upgrade my whole computer afterwards
AMD I'm coming for you
aible
Does anyone know if it's possible to increase the size limit on structure blocks? Need to restore a few builds from backup, but don't have WE to use schematics or anything.
Maybe by editing NMS
Mister_Fx sure, why not
Actually, what if the structure block limit was a paper config?
It won't be.
Yeah, I grepped for it and didn't see it anywhere.
Actually, let me retract that.
Was in the mindset of this was referring to the build limit.
Yeah, I rarely use them to migrate some structure without downtime.
Guess I'll look into it and if it's a simple change then I'll make a pr but if it needs a lot of changes then I won't
My guess is it's a simple change, unless the storage it uses is weird and can't handle it.
But, I doubt it'd have a place in Paper.
Only adds maintenance.
Why all mojang things are such a mess
@serene bolt https://i.imgur.com/pluszqd.png
unrelated:
another team member at sponge just showed this off:
What about it
Bless looks great, a must have for any server
Is that different than how it's already done via Paper?
The inventory stuff on sponge is fun, see link
oh that's pretty neat actually
Perhaps I'm humbuggering
So it just changes out what is in it
Been doing similar inv-management for a couple years
Inventory builder though 
Not in so few lines of code, using API-only methods
you'd need a custom framework to make it sane on bukkit :p
True, I have a GUI class
where as we do it all for you - that code powers that gif above for example
Matt designed a few weeks ago that allows you to essentially do an ME system minus the searching and unlimited stacks on a single item. It's a scrollable GUI that you can make and utilize.
slot click listeners on the inventory itself, etc
I'm trying to make that style of inventory gui but I can't finish it because of all the problems
I have like 20 button classes
Once you have GUI ours has similar builder-style
It was a good day when somebody told me "Don't open a new inventory, just change what they're already looking at, forehead"
@spare venture Mojang has already improved it a lot for us :)
Just wait till you learn about async GUI loading 
Bukkit is what is shit with inventories still
bedrock has some really cool UIs you can make
More important things that than for Java Edition :P
Be happy Mojang has improved the inventory system for us, though :)
Ours handles pagination as well which is great to finally not have to think about: addPages(p, pagedList, page, (player, newPage) -> showHeads(player, heads, newPage));
They are fixing the game, which is what is more important than adding a fancy gui system right now
heh
But yeah the amount of bullshit to have to learn/use to make the GUI class in the first place was the pain
All these top GUI with skulls creating on command and running on the main thread

"why did my server freeze for 5 seconds opening this gui?"
yep, @fringe quartz - we do the hard work for you there with Sponge :P
Our inventory system is... insane to say the least <.<
lol
once you do the hard work though at least you don't have to anymore
you know until something changes
which is the nice thing about having it on the API side, your plugin won't break and you push the work onto the project maintainers :P
There's a lot going on here yikes
but I don't know anything about how Sponge internals are
Yep
Here's the original PR: https://github.com/SpongePowered/SpongeAPI/pull/443
Has changed a lot since
:-D
๐
oh cool new experiment
New String: NOTIFICATION_BODY_START_STREAM: "Started streaming !!{activityName}!! in !!{guildName}. Come hangout!"
skype moment
tacoooo
Inventories are a pain
that's why I wrote my own library, lol
weird flexbut ok
whatcha make
I mean, it's already pretty well known around here but https://github.com/Phoenix616/InventoryGui
cool
I should probably add some flashy pictures to that 
I feel like literally everybody has made some sort of system around the standard Inventory. Most just sitting in a repo tightly coupled with other code, but still.
I bet
I mean this was made for my own server's plugins first too
but I like sharing my stuff :D
Mhmm, also helps with better modularization and loose coupling imo
I wish renaming files didn't wipe the history
on github
that's a git issue
has nothing to do with github
well, github specifically since it tracks renames
in most cases
git does ;)
yep
but having a standalone library is also pretty cool when you want to quickly use it in other projects... and don't have to spend hours adapting it to a different code base
Yeah
most of my libraries exist because of the fact that I always repeated the same code and wanted to speed up the creation of small plugins
e.g. this one for language files is extremely simple but evolved into one that I use in all my modern projects just to stop hardcoding messages: https://github.com/Phoenix616/lang xD
one of the core plugins of my server (the teleport/server management suite) still has hardcoded messages just because I didn't just do it properly back then
and converting everything is a pita
I don't really have that issue since I only maintain one published plugin atm, but I'm planning on keeping an eye on that and separate that stuff when I notice duplicate systems in the future.
i usually use whatever i use for config for messages
which is kinda shit lol
but works
My current system is also just: get yaml file, get message, throw it through all translators, then use it.
I mean that's basically what I do too
just that I don't need to write it anymore and have automatic language file loading as well as per-client locale setting language support
(ok, well, the simple one just uses java properties)
runs
I can guarantee my system currently is at least a million times worse than yours, god the legacy code
The stuff is all over the place.
I mean feel free to use my library and annoy me about issue #1: https://github.com/Phoenix616/lang/issues/1 xD
Like, key changes of the file are in SettingsManager, color code and basic placeholder translation is in MessageManager, PAPI and MvdWPlaceholders support is in a different file, other placeholders are via direct String#replace, conditionals for messages are in another file and after going through all that mess you hopefully get a piece of legacy text for chat. And then the actual code is shit as well, so...
lol
reminds me a bit of ChestShop
one day I document the event flow of that plugin, one day...
I guess my plugin has javadoc on everything, so that's something I suppose
Still doesn't make the code better though
well, at least it's not designed to be event-driven (I hope)
Yeah
nice
not that there is something wrong with event-driven design but it's annoying to work with if you don't have any documentation about how the event flow is
A lot is event driven and, yes, basically that is an issue.
But there's also some non event driven stuff
And some small pieces of code are actually not completely terrible
god, why is spiget api so shit? they don't return what their docs say it returns -.-
no general public
that's GP
GP is the "golden shovel one"
One is made by one who uses UpperCamelCase in their methods
isnt it supposed to be getBruhMoment()
lowerCamelCase thx โค๏ธ
at this point GP and GD are quite different - GD is blood's rewrite of his port of GP to sponge
Is W1290 currently the best processor for Minecraft servers? A 9900k might be better but none are in stock anywhere, so I think W1290 is a good alternative
oh there's a w1290 now? taxes are a nightmare
lmfao
3800x
3800x > W1290? Interesting
I've personally never heard of a W1290 before so I have no idea how it compares
yeah
Higher GHZ = better
W1290 has turbo up to 5.2GHz while 3800X is only 4.5 GHz
I mean a 3900x is better than a 9900k isn't it, but we're talking MC here and not just best CPU ever
GHz ratings mean jack shit
yeah xD

yeah because 9900ks issue is cooling
if there is anything to go off intels recent trends, I'd be weary of their newer chips unless you can ensure you're gonna be in a DC which can handle the thermals
I know W1290 is good with that, 80W TDP
AMD the new gods
just be like me and install 8 fans on your computer
thermal issues be damned
10 fans if you count the two on my GPU

my friend insisted they had an i8
Kind of surprised any datacenter would host on anything but server grade CPU's.
we were like bro what
3 in front, 3 up top, 2 in back
TDP stands for shit
that darn poop
Toilet Ducking Paper
It's basically a "we left it at the minimum clock and shoved a ton of work at it and it didn't set on fire"
I thought TDP was a measure of power usage e.g. amt of heat created
Take a look at the i9, that chip was hardly higher in TDP than the i7; yet the i9 literally fucking toasted itself as soon as you put any actual load on it
Also Intel is making stupid choices lately. Like restricting RAM overclocking to Z series boards.
Intels dumb
no u
Their entire foundation is on "the enterprise already loves us" and "customers blindly follow us"
I for one welcome apples move to arm
They're literally pushing enthusiasts away, which means those enthusiasts are not going to say "hey buy Intel" to their family/friends/etc.
It's gonna be a headache, but, fuck intel
Yeah, and EPYC Rome looks pretty darn nice.
I wouldn't trust AMD for shit either, tbqh
sorry i meant 8000 lol
This is nothing new of a cycle for AMD
I don't either, and the AM4 socket is insanely limited.
Intel dominates for years, amd finally show up for a few years with an actual competent solution, something happens and AMD regresses back to the pitiful soul it was
TIL that you can use a .github repo to add default .github settings for all your repos of a user/org Oo
nice
i love the secret repos
meh i'm happy with my amd cpu
SP3 is very nice and they can do a lot with it.
they're decent chips
They're just often heavily marketing wank
Last I knew, intel still dominated in games
also I just noticed that I forked Chew/Chew for some reason, lol
AMD "catches up", their first gen catch up has the very same issues as people where screaming when intel started gaining traction again, AMD plays well for a good few years, and some how ends up dropping the ball
Lol
nice lol
Well their biggest problem is AM4, in my opinion. They've gone PCI-e 4.0 because they had to. The lanes are mostly used by the chipset, barely anything left for M.2 and a graphics card.
I have now also forked it
If you want a M.2 you can only get 8x for the GPU IIRC.
why are yal forking and not starring ๐คจ
I "stole" your idea with the "spoiler"-like expanding stuff for the descreption ;D
Hmm
lol
it's quite useful and friendly
meh, the github android app isn't open source :S
ironic
github ios app is a bit poopoo
I'd delete chew too
same
well it alway sasks where you want to fork it too
if you're in orgs
when you go to edit a file it forks it though
not if you click the edit button on a file iirc
is there a point of forking if you never plan on editing the repo lol
wat?
how?
I did a pr
how would that disrupt it?
You can have the org hidden if that's how it disrupts
archiving it
ah
Was it when you created or when you went to move repos to it?
It has a commit message smh
Oh yeah i sponsored you
So odd.. wtf GitHub
I'll add u to my org
So, apparently
our gov launched some "fix your bike" voucher scheme thing
Apparently it launched 10 minutes ago
site is already dedded
I sortof just butchered your readme chew
dw i got u
lol @golden gust
why can't my government do cool things like that? :(
starts mumbling "we have a competent government... we have a competent government..."
our govs in "kiss ass" mode
In part, he's blaming the fact that people are fat as to why covid spread and killed so many
๐
Not a "he fucked up and didn't call lockdown when he was told to"
your government and country is retarded

I don't get why the community is so stupid
i like that response better than the american response
I mean, country
reeee other party
but, at the same point, it's like...
I mean, I'd be scared if labour won
but, in part, both of the main parties are just sketchy af
corbyn wanted to nationalize stuff again
because that worked in the past
smh chew
nono
you're not allowed back in the EU 
now watch the UK ask for financial support from the EU 
for corona
I have no idea where the thread started, but, there is this gut called archer_rs on twitter
"gut"?
guy*
meh gut is called archer_rs
But, basically, some brexiteer has found out that by leaving the EU, they won't be able to go to their house in france
and the EU is bad and evil for doing this, and how where they supposed to know that?
?? why wouldnt they be allowed to their house
in my personal opinion uk never completely entered eu
The worse part with DED is you don't know if he's trolling or that dum
they didnt adopt โฌ eg
...many eu countries haven't lol
dude, its not like cuz they're outside of the EU that they suddenly cant go anywhere in europe anymore
can't you just apply to get into france or something
like how every other normal person gets to france
They don't have a residence card thing
pfffffft
So, they'd lose all the "you can go anywhere in the EU you want" rights
that's 2022 onwards though
Well, yes; They can do now
yeah well, who's fault is that
But, once shit sets into motion, they basically can't unless they wanna deal with visas and crap
isn't it unclear if uk will remain in schengen or not
well, yea, that's the entire beaty of it all
im gonna be real
if its up to me they can fuck right off lmao
Well, right now the UK wants fully out but wants all of the gains from the EU
It's comical
the "oh no i need to deal with visas to get to my second house" is literally the 1% of first world problems
did you guys know that trump supports literal witch doctors now
nobody ever said that the 1% was smart
I mean, sure, there is a fair chunk who had the smarts, did the work, got the ideas, etc
Many of them where just born into it
i mean the ones who deserve it are probably smart
ye
the daddy's credit card ones
Could you imagine if somebody like trump weren't born into riches?
he might be a better person kek
kinda balances out though
those that don't deserve the wealth from their daddy just spend it all and lose it eventually
I mean, ideally the concept of cash shouldn't exist and we'd all be happy and do stuff coz we love one another or some wierdness like that
Trump lives on bank of daddy
Sure, he has all this shit, but, he's been bailed out many times
oh no is it an idiot american who thinks russians got trump to be president
Hillary Clinton was one of the worst candidates I have ever seen, its believable trump won against her fairly to me
I can name 10 friends who voted for Trump for the mere fact that he isn't Hillary
russian creditors will back anybody if you got the limbs for it
People who admitted that they would've voted for Bernie
I just wanted to say that as a russian , our country fucking sucks
I moved out but i feel bad for the people who live there
hi
i would say that almost anything is better than trump...im not from us, tho
so whats the deal with this Hydroxychloroquine thing
so whats the deal with this Hydroxychloroquine thing
it semeed to work, but it doesnt
some testing demonstrated it doesnt
well you got the studies?
well you got the studies?
?
"some testing"
linkss
well I rarely believe the news, i'm just gonna go to the sources if possible
i'm not just gonna blindly believe "this bad" when I don't have enough information to form my own opinion/conclusions :p
then research in the internet by your own
again some covid stuff?
no(t really)
was testing in production earlier
took 4 commits to get it to work
Did a domain transfer took you ever longer than a week, I mean I did quit a lot and that never happend to me. I think this host admin wants to fool me
Me neither, until now
So you know how I was talking about getting 10k players on one server, we actually managed to get 1700 players online at once, the server was totally dead but it didn't crash lmao
So you know how I was talking about getting 10k players on one server, we actually managed to get 1700 players online at once, the server was totally dead but it didn't crash lmao
why you want 10k players in a server lol?
why wouldn't you?
well he found 1.7k
1/10
ideally you could pack as many players as you want into a single instance without ever caring
Just, realistically...
@knotty rose He is a part of the MrBeast Gaming Administration, I think finding 10k players is quite easy.
well mr beast server crashed by skeppy doing a replacenear of 50 blocks so probably the harware is not the best lol
what if you shoved them in one chunk?
Could work, easier
@languid cypress Next time, make the server a 'void world' and don't make the players able to move out of the chunk. Should help!
I still have like 300 connected to one of them lol
Insane mode activated
I wanted to see what actual vanilla minecraft could handle not like strictly going for player count
@languid cypress Message me via the Hytale News Discord, real quick - I pinged you.
no
Grr
squirl
1234 upvotes
The quality is unreal.
@worn ember #gifs-and-memes
Well a usual player takes 57.1 kb/s * 10 000 = average 571000 kb/s are 571 Mb/s so not even concidering the cpu, ram and internal bus load of 10 000 players caused by the game itself, at least the pc has to handle constant 571 Mb/s with networkcompression on top, well quite a nice base load
oof
bruh
Can I post timings here for the 300 player server or no
oh?
๐ฆ
:(
That is unfortunate ๐ฆ
Why would you name a hosting company after a super slow animal
makes me think their servers would be slow
and one of the 7 deadly sins
Slothians
imo its pretty tasteful
obviously they're not trying to be slow lol
yea prob
i think it sounds better than doing something like CheetahHost though
sloth sounds more casual
Sloth is so smooth, agreed.
It's a shame to what ever happened to the Owner, I am sure he is a great guy!
hope they're ok
^
is that a celest pfp krystal
well clearly they're not ok chew, cuz he dead smh
oh the host died
oh host idk
lol
talking about owner
the owner is the host though right /s
i thought he mean the dude hosting the servers 
of course, who else would run the server
well, who hosts your server
i am the host of your server now
there's always a bigger fish
MCPro
feelsbadman
oh cool, it got too hard so i stopped playing ๐ข
they use me
i have like 50 hard drives
IDE drives?
IDE is like super old
wait does IDE stand for intelligent development environment
Totally believe that, some hdd seam to live forever
.g ide meaning
Okay so it has nothing to do with our IJ programming IDE
(chew) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=IDE -- IDE - Urban Dictionary: "Therefore the term IDE cable is incorrect, and should be referred to as an ATA cable. The introduction of IDE hard-drives allowed for much..."
not even close
Oh boy
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment -- Integrated development environment - Wikipedia: "Anjuta is an IDE for C and C++ programming in the GNOME desktop environment. An integrated development environment (IDE) is a software application..."
nope
Free cloud vms? Whenever I checked out AWS it was fucking expensive
Like, it's interesting, but, they're only free for so long iirc
The machines are also highly limited, so, generally not worth much
infinite dick energy
e.g. quick look at google shows that you only get 1G network egress
i just have the cheapest hetzner option and it costs me like 3euro a month
Yea, generally better to just go for a cheapo VPS
You're not gonna get killed with egress charges the moment you actually use it for something
What do you do with that limited resources?=
basic stuff
If your intent is to host a few sites nobody cares about, etc, that's likely plenty
have the time i dont go over 5% cpu usage
*half
its just to host my jenkins server and some other projects in the future
so yeah, nothing cpu intensive
oh god
i just need a reliable connection
I would still go for Netcup
Other month, I deleted a 200GB log file from jenkins
especially with coupon
i mean, just gotta purge that shit
the surprise was more how fast it managed to do that
jenkins broke something, and so the error logs would often bitch about something
oh that sfun
jenkins /really/ hates the concept of free disk space
error too much free disk
Well, hey
or free memory
thats one way to fill it up
If that's an error they detect, they're doing a better job than microsoft
at least their auto fix tools work
i've got a 200mb sqlite db with drone, but that's the only really significant thing
"do you want to find the solution to the problem automatically?" when you're really desperate its worth a try xD
but it'll fail regardless
I was looking to get a GSP server because reasons, thankfully I didn't pick SlothHost
does really whatever you want, especially fail
thats cuz u write bad code ๐
bad config for jenkins*
also it wont fail if you dont have tests 
i love the implication that debit cards arent sensitive https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IKws1rBw/image.png
it literally says "for example"

I mean, there comes a point where you deserve to be shrekt
if you get scammed in 2020 you deserve it tbh
the thing with being scammed is, you don't know you're being scammed
the real scam in 2020 is 2020
you're completely ignorant
well thats not my problem xD
It's the same conundrum in the case where you happen to do something wrong because of the circumstances. For example, if you open the door while someone is walking by, and hit them.
they got juped
Are you at fault? Well, it depends. If you honestly did not mean to hurt anyone, and you tried to be reasonably careful but still managed to accidentally hurt someone, no. If you were reckless and should have looked further into whether your actions could harm others, yes.
I have no idea what you're saying
If you have been warned of the dangers of scamming, yet still refuse to take good practices, it's almost for sure that you are at fault.
This is a demonstration.
The concept is demonstrated via the door and the accident.
visualize this
picks up a door and slams it into A
after the fact, probably?
after what fact?
if you knew it was a scam you probably wouldn't buy into it
the fact
the scam itself
take the bitcoin situation, you send $1000 to your boy elon musk. you're ignorant. at what point do you realize it's a scam??
how? it's a scam
you need to know more than average to use bitcoin
I don't know, really. Depends on the circumstances, probably.
Maybe you don't know enough to obtain bitcoin
bitcoin isnt that difficult to buy or send
idk who that is
proof or riot
@agile narwhal
@agile narwhal
but that question gets into another question, which is whether $1000 bitcoin is anything meaningful which when you are deprived of it actually makes things worse
It could be argued that it matters very little, in some cases
report to discord ez ban
as always, you need more details to answer the question
got the same message from that kid
i was spared
probably because yall are up on the list
i don't got a fancy role
heres an easy fix
no one can dm me ๐
simply a paperd-tester ๐
spigot discord is the only discord I have that turned off
i have i off on big servers
and blocking people works better than not accepting dms
it's not that big of a problem for me
i always forget to disable it in new dumcords
I usually like when people dm me, a lot of the time it's not annoying and it's fine
but on spigot discord it was a massive issue so uh yeah
otherwise I get DMs daily and it's just bleh
for some reason they often start with "hello" or "hi"
if they want to dm me they can ping me and send me a friend request
nah people just write hi
as if they mean to be nice and they're instantly your friend or something
and then nothing else
you answer one question and all of a sudden they expect you to hold their hands in DMs
oi zml
my favorite is when people instantly call you
hi chew
anti stress intervention
zzcat you can turn it off by default
i hate when people do that
imagine dm'ing pure
after they say hi they launch into the private support request
lol
Well, yea; They expect you to engage in convo and start pestering them to provide info
ignore the 2nd line, if you turn it off it'll ask you if you want it to apply to all servers https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fNIVDM8N/image.png
3rd party discord client spotted
it's an irc client
That's the one thing that pisses me off helping people is when you literally need to ask 3 times "grab the logs", then they start having a fit over nobody helping them
banned
.halp
i love how it's immediantly a 3rd party discord client even though it's 3rd party modifications to the first party discord client
whatever happened to 2nd party
no one wants you at their 2nd party
we killed those insider skum
you could bring 2nd party back

no one wants me at their first party either lol
zml: did u see my ping, how do i go from point a (my computer ) to point bee (maven centeal)
just invite yourself
No
chew:
oh i didn't rip what are you trying to publish chew
my api lib
ive been throwing it onto my repo but for stale releases i should probably put them on some sort of central repo :p
maven or gradle?
maven
ok that's not terible -- sonatype has an OSS parent pom
oh were you using gradle
the first thing you need to do is make a GPG key and publish it to a keyserver
done
good that's the annoying part
gpg keychain did that for me :3
either way it's still my irc client
here's the OSSRH guide: https://central.sonatype.org/pages/ossrh-guide.html
and there's no first party irc clients!
@zealous wedge woa
Random Q @spare venture but how are you going on 1.16.1?
ya seems pretty much like 1.15 tbh for the most part
btw barty chunky got like a 50% speed boost from paper-118 lol
yeah its real nice
i got 10k to load in like 6 some hours instead of 9 some hours
man its pretty much state gvt at war with fed gvt in portland
wtf
disgusting in what the feds are doing or what the locals are doing? i home the former
hope*
ok good you meant former ๐
yeah poor portland
it's still kinda weird seeing a misc building i last went into in like grade 7? or so on a field trip become part of the national news cycle
we only have 2 media groups that do the news here, one is state funded and one is private, and they pretty much say the same stuff so i assume its mostly correct
The Fox News Channel is
with the FCC
so they are not liable for Defamation and shit like that
local Fox channels are fine tho
they are registered news channels
idk how you all put up with this
i mean
which is probably best for covid numbers
yeah a lot of younger people have taken into looking at politics
so now they go protest when they should be isolating
we're sadly reaching the point of what the 2nd amendment was for.... and when that happens, thats civil war
lmao
yeah, the 2nd ammendment at this point is mostly theoretical
lets point a gun at special forces, what could go wrong
considering the amount of stockpiling the US military has done
win win
but anyways from what i understand a federal court blocked the secret police shit
if you start firing on the federal troops, they just bring in the tanks and the drones and the missiles
temporarily at least
yeah
yeah the 2a has failed really, even with the rights insistence on assault weapons, the govt still has BETTER assault gear
i dont think they'll nuke their own ground zml, well i sure hope not
and drones
it's america dark
weren't most drone kills innocents anyways
They can only nuke federal land without permission from states lol
nah theyll just use it as reason to shoot you dead instantly barty
weren't most drone kills innocents anyways
has never stopped the US from using drone kills
by "middle east shit" you mean the things the US military has been doing in its wars?
they wont say "oh man better not arrest them", theyll say "armed terrorist is a threat to our life, take em out"
yes
like laws only exist as long as these federal troops want to follow them
except if everyone did that barty, nothing would change
if you wait 365 days we'll have skipped a year
it'd just be one year later
the hell, md5 didnt even make a 1.15 branch of CB.
lol
Okay but I could at least buy alcohol then
push to master
this january will be interesting
so who are the candidates for the elections?
trump and biden
thats it?
it's always 2
horrible person 1 and horrible person 2
smh no wonder you get nowhere xD
both parties want to kill me but i think biden wants to kill me less
whats really sad, is if biden wins, there will be more people who disapprove of him than people who disapprove of trump
we vote for the parties we want and then the other parties form coalitions to get a majority anyway
sounds like a way better system /s
md never makes branches unless he has to backport
i mean we'd be voting for biden's vp if anything
the dnc is too full of themselves to put bernie in there
i disagree barty, i think trumps very likely to win, especially if biden fucking chooses warren
Can his VP be Obama?
I think he should go with Mr. Care
biden is just a bag of meat as a presidential candidate
cant you vote for no president? that would probably be the better option
but is biden hated more than hillary? no
not voting is worse
i mean if you were obama would you go back to he white house
but.... were at the same problem of 2016. theres nothing to energize the left to vote anymore than there was in 2016
plus the sexists will vote for biden (over hillary)
does anyone actually care about biden? like imagine having the energy to hate him
not in this shitshow for sure
about the only thing you could say is different is in 2016 it was "theres no way he can win" and now its a bit more real
both candidates are absolutely horrible, this election is literally just "so who do you think is less horrible"
but noones ethusiastic about biden
"who will fuck up the least"
i think its time to move
dum americans can stay in dum america
https://joebiden.info/ if your enthusiastic about this guy.... man somethings wrong with you
eh at this point if you haven't left the US you're kinda stuck
boomers love him
the borders are closed
good
popular vote you mean?
we couldn't even get that in canada barty
and that was one of the points trudeau campaigned on
is canada the better america?
ranked choice is when you vote for 2-3 people
ah
if your ideal candidate doesnt win, your vote moves to next
it's a mediocre country that only looks good because it's right next to america
@worn ember it all depends on your beliefs and what aspects you look at
and no Dark, no country is absolutely better than another
so it lets you vote for your preferred without "throwing away your vote"
only because the systems designed to make it that way
I mean there are no perfect choice but you can pick lesser evil of them
3 way split divides vote
no
you should have more parties tbh
the left cant run 2 people or it wont be enough to beat the right
yeah
that way you can regulate better
it would take a radical shift of voters to fix the 2 party bs
now you just have the extremes of both spectrums in each others hair
Well, that's true too
question is if we are able to live to see that 
just itll be a long time
but Aikar people's view chances with ages too
if the dncs keeps their shit up it's gonna be their fault too
yeah, the american political establishmet is useless
eh some, but its not that peoples views have changed, its that society has changed, and peoples age aligns with their experience of the world at their points in life
well there is movement to kill EC atm, its like 50% complete?
the movement is NaPaVoInterCo
the sad part is that it's either Biden or Trump
either I eat a shit sandwich or it's fascism
fine, I'm eating the shit sandwich under duress
72% barty

pics or it didn't happen
22% pending
because we only need to get to 50% in order to control the EC
that's when it goes into effect
theres a graph
oh the entire thing
72% of the required 50%
once NaPoVoInterCo state members reach a majority control of the EC, it goes into effect
use NPVIC that way your saying it looks so weird lol
cgpgrey ๐ฆ
we take a punch to the gut and vote biden then drink our selves silly until results are announced
isnt the original idea was to make sure smaller state to have a voice in the national stage? so that's kinda normal
yes, but that 'original idea' gives that little state significantly more power per citizen than rest, its pretty imbalanced
a vote where the loser had 3 MILLION more votes is pretty damn lame
the idea behind a republic has failed
politicians are driven by their party, not by their people
and lobbyist
like im sure theres some right leaning states that are not happy with trump, but theres what 3? republicans who are standing up to him
and sadly one died
its because as you see with each case, specially with whats going on now with roberts, the rights so quick to stab you in the back if you do anything off script
The 2 party system sucks
glad roberts is showing integrity, hope they realize them stabbing him in back is only going to encourage him to keep saying fuck you to them lol
2 parties is both good and bad
prevents against the cancer than is British parliament
but also leads to its own cancer
Meanwhile we have 8 parties we can vote for
And they never get anything done
Politics is great
at least with 2 parties we can get shit done if we really need to
Part of the reason why "2 party" works is because you generally have one group of people with one set of ideas, and another party with anothers
You just spend decades with each party undoing the "damage" caused by the other
The stuff we do get through is usually pretty solid. It just takes forever
So yeah. We still don't have a government since the last elections cuz they can't agree on the coalition
It has been since February
I cannot get the paper forums to send me an activation email :( tried a few hours ago and tried just now and still nothing
Have you checked spam?
It did that for me with twitch lol
right email?
yup
ive got nothin
I can't log in to the forums anymore
rip
Your parents are genetically closer to monkeys than you. Their parents are genetically closer to monkeys than them.
oh nvm
wut
every human generation is 1 more generation further removed from ours and mokeys common ancestor, I guess is the idea
hmm, i guess
Mfw there's a howler alarm going off. Are the Germans invading again?
also demon whats your fav song from folklore
seven atm

im glad it's the 7th song in the album
I wish she had made it the 6th song or something like that
for whatever reason spotify showed 2 separate albums
Imagine the hate
yeah 1 is explicit the other isn't
haven't even bothered listening to the censored version
Since when does Taylor swear?
oh nvm it's like "1 other release"
since 1989 I think is the first time she swore
Will have to double check
(chew) Spotify Album: Taylor Swift - folklore https://open.spotify.com/album/0xS0iOtxQRoJvfcFcJA5Gv
oh hush xd
this is the first time she has said the word "fuck" in an album though
why would one listen to clean, its so annoying
I think she says "damn", which some americans consider searing
idk what's worse, bleeping or trying to fill in with other lyrics
the worst offenders are the ones that just distort it
rappers's songs be like 99% instrumental 1% "the"
eminem songs are just weird clean
Ikr
"what the SWWEEEUEWWW"
em has energy in his lyrics, those words are placed with meaning
just noise
to take out his words, destroys his message
The old censored songs just cut out lol
yeah aikar i agree
like they just mute the lyrics
for that word
i remember some bowling for soup song had "ass" but the 'radio disney version' just turned off the lyrics for that word
I never got why they need to censor swearing
parents
As if they never swear
i personally don't like swearing unless it's necessary
gotta keep their vision of their child's innocence intact
i personally don't like swearing unless it's necessary
what the fuck are you talking about
like that, unnecessary swearing
like i see some grotesque stuff im like "what the fuck"
The * did you say to me you little *
fuck is too versatile to just remove from the language
some day maybe all other words will be replaced with "fuck"
you can say fuck and shit in so many ways
They censor it but you already knew what whent there so seems pretty pointless
"You are shit" and "You are the shit" insult and compliment, like what other word has that same energy
Fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L77gk5QEZFo nsfw; I mean, susie dent...
double negative
I fed my bitch this morning
it's not just swear words that behave this way
yeah but they're the most fun
but yeah words change with context
society is so weird, we demonize nudity and swearing but let kids play violent games
well violent games don't have an effect on a growing mind, nudity does for sure
Let them play their fortknight
uh i disagree lol
Well the bible said sex is bad, but the bible has people murdering each other in god's name all the time < basically america's mindset
ah yes nobody owns a body
I'm referring to nudity in the sense of like porn or whatever
most games glorify violence, it exhibits gaining enjoyment by killing people and being criminals
does i tho chew?
But, that's not what we're referring to
yes theres a difference in nudity vs porn ๐
Nudity doesn't have to be associated with porn tho
^^
true
persons just changing clothes and body is exposed? (gender irrelevant), why make a big deal out of it?
but once little 12 year old timmy sees some tiddies he's gonna wanna see more, but that's a whole nother rabbit hole
i personally like games where i get to be a criminal, that was i can exercise microaggressions without being arrested
12 year old timmy has already seen some tiddies, guaranteed
