took them month to fix
#general
mighty storm
it's like america, but somehow worse
warm anchor
that's scary 
pulsar fox
Our server isn't public by choice (we meet and have met the criteria forever). We're already bursting at the seams 
https://s.56k.pw/a/0qREPW1.png
mighty storm
discord post-nitro is awful, goin down the drain
warm anchor
I mean I am all for Discord making their own server searching engine
fallen oracle
Used to see if I could make a noticible impact when I downloaded something
pulsar fox
we used to run a livestream of Logstalgia when we'd get DDOSed by the chinese
golden gust
looks like netdata
fallen oracle
It is
worn ember
for what tho
mighty storm
we meet the requirements (for verification even) but since verification is closed, we're out of luck
fallen oracle
Yooo that'd be fun to watch
I used to datahoard, still do kinda, but not actively.
worn ember
watching graphs go brrrr
warm anchor
The last thing I heard Olivia, it was they are going to open up for everyone. Hence the message you saw from last public post but who knows 
mighty storm
you could go the cheap lame route of buying a dev license for no game
fallen oracle
I like when graphs go brr brr
mighty storm
but they're going to revoke licenses who do that pretty soon if they arent already
warm anchor
tell barty about it 
pulsar fox
@fallen oracle https://the-eye.eu/china_msdn_ddos.mp4
mighty storm
i mean you could make some cheap rpgmaker game call it "[owner] simulator" and it's just you sleeping for 30 minutes
you can't sell games on discord so there's no point in getting a license
warm anchor
The things about Discord violations is that they are mostly report based. That's why they've been criticized of being inconsistent
mighty storm
and it depends on the mod
warm anchor
it is also more likely for you to get in trouble if you have a lot of followings and got some haters
mighty storm
Jim can say "fine for me" then close it but Jerry can be like "back when i was 5, this happened to me and i always wanted revenge, time to ban" but all the dude in question did was say "furry bad"
not even exaggerating, that's basically what happened with quackity
golden gust
I mean
warm anchor
oh o never say that
golden gust
Have you seen the mod team?
furry bad's probably like, a huge trigger for some of them
warm anchor
zzzcat fun fact
mighty storm
well I could go and make a more true, worse joke but nah
warm anchor
on certain server, Discord developers were on its own category and shown on top (kinda like here you see paper dev first)
Once "that" drama comes out. Developer category is now hidden and just mixed in with all users
golden gust
(If you google, pretty sure that there is some screwed up news story of dumcord and furries)
mighty storm
ah the glory days where you could set yourself as a dev and ban whoever you wanted
warm anchor
so people cant see all the "profile" pic being certain kind
coz it was realllllllly clear when you just go through all the devs and look at their profile pics
mighty storm
what do the staff even do
warm anchor
I mean this pic is still on reddit NSFW btw || https://www.reddit.com/r/blursedimages/comments/ecoeko/blursed_developer/||
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mighty storm
there's like 80 staff and nothing gets done
warm anchor
They are trying to that's for sure
riding this corona bullshit
from lastest news. They suggest school club can use Discord server as a mean of communication
which I can see it happen totally.
They just need to let us have the ability to log in multiple accounts on one client. That'd do it for me.
Twitter already support that.
^ lol
pulsar fox
Took like 4 years for slack to allow that lol
warm anchor
That will be a reasonable next step for Discord tbh
pulsar fox
IDK, I don't see it happening honestly
their excuse is going to be, just use the same account, you can already change your nickname in each server
so why do you need a whole separate account
pulsar fox
that's on you
warm anchor
pulsar fox
Though yea, thats the one feature I wish existed, per server pfp
warm anchor
oh no....
pulsar fox
I tried ripcord for a bit to solve the multi-account issue
but couldn't get over it's oddities lol
felt like I was using Pidgin back in 2005
warm anchor
clean
hazy veldt
If you want to feel like you're using pidgin just use pidgin. There's a discord plugin you can get.
pulsar fox
I already have to use pidgin enough on my work laptop, thx
mighty storm
discord has and will most likely always be banned from my school district
and for the longest time didnt ban a sex toy shop because our grade portal is called "self serve" and you can probably make the connection from there
mighty storm
golden gust
oh, it's animates
cosmic raft
that is like scrappy
mighty storm
i think it's the story of scooby doo
like when they were young
imnot entirely sure
potent fossil
i saw the cover of it and i said pass but if i get some solid outside +1s then ok
ill try it then
but otherwise im not harming my childhood
(more than it is already harmed, that is)
pulsar fox
and why did you have to make your own permissions plugin to achieve that 
cosmic raft
wat
potent fossil
lmfao for what
cosmic raft
...uh huh
potent fossil
ok so why websockets and not an actual message broker
cosmic raft
points at rabbitmq
potent fossil
potent fossil
damn thats crazy bro
worn ember
guess everyone went to bed xD
pulsar fox
Amazon MSK
pulsar fox
^
I used to live down the street from Taylor
and yet I still was a Symfony SME instead 
worn ember
Taylor Swift?
cosmic raft
yes
worn ember
thats nice
potent fossil
do it or die zbk
austere ivy
So I bought a sketchbook (https://amazon.com/dp/B0027A39PY/) and it's working perfectly but I'm looking for a smaller, preferably pretty cheap one with thick paper for ink. Although that sketchbook's paper doesn't bleed through, it's still showing on the other side. Anyone have any suggestions? Preferably notebook size and under $10.
unkempt drift
gotta pad those numbers
worn ember
is it me or is it kinda ironic that you buy servers that are like 10x worse than your pc nowadays instead of buying servers cuz they're better xD
still cape
i'm getting " WARN com.mysql.jdbc.exceptions.jdbc4.MySQLSyntaxErrorException: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '#####' at line 1" about https://gyazo.com/560f284fd70f49b24f4d06078b3054a2 in the config but as far as i can tell everything is entered correctly
should i put MYSQL in all caps at 12?
potent fossil
@austere ivy im not artist, but if you're using ink then you aren't sketching, and hence don't want a sketchbook
you'll want something with tougher paper
worn ember
probably one of your credentials is wrong (my guess would be db)
still cape
that's for votingplugin
still cape
no i copied/pasted from the host
austere ivy
ooh that looks great, thanks simple.
worn ember
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
still cape
okay well that's off to a great start
potent fossil
afaik sketching is usually the first stage and is done with pencil, always
then you draw it
with ink or whateverz
mighty storm
what events does paper have that spigot or below doesnt?
potent fossil
sec
unkempt drift
a lot
unkempt drift
wow, you only have your owner rank as 99.. LAME.
gotta have your owner rank be MAX INT
cosmic raft
I mean
potent fossil
why are you using ink anyway, just get art pencils
cosmic raft
I have always been a fan of not separating admins and owners
austere ivy
I wasn't planning on buying it right now, just for the future so I wanted to gather some recommendations
worn ember
But meh fancy owner tag :(
potent fossil
well, for sure you need much tougher paper for ink to not bleed through, like office paper, so, i mean
either that, or probably just switch to art pencils?
which are like the thick lead and stuff
worn ember
Windows plz
Its only letting me update on restart and not on shutdown cx
And the update before was the opposite
austere ivy
well I'm just trying to ink over sketches and erase the pencil so the lines look super clean
I'm not advanced enough to need it right now though lol
austere ivy
but for the type of art I'm (trying) to draw it's very commonly very clean bold lines
potent fossil
but you for sure need tougher paper
worn ember
Or maybe actually go to a store and ask some advice :)
austere ivy
well I figure a dedicated Paper discord would know their papers ;)
still cape
https://github.com/Ben12345rocks/VotingPlugin/issues/408found this but doesn't seem to address my issue
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austere ivy
are there actually any arts and crafts discords?
potent fossil
Michael Scott Discord
austere ivy
lol I'll do that
unkempt drift
there has to be a Dunder Mifflin discord
worn ember
Jazz's draws?
mighty storm
munder difflin
worn ember
Pretty sure he has one too
austere ivy
ooh that's a great suggestion darkeye, thanks
I just figure I mine as well maybe start inking early on so I get used to it, I don't exactly need it right now though
preferably I'd just switch to digital though, most of the type of art I'm trying to draw is drawn digitally
people recommend drawing with pen(cil) and paper first, though, so I'm doing that lol
worn ember
I suck at both
still cape
okay i'd just like to vent and mention that setting up vote rewards is one of the most frustrating things in the history of server ownership
so most of the sites worked, well they all worked, voting wise, none gave me my reward (maybe 'cause i'm owner tho? but i mean i think it still should), then no errors when i changed MYSQL to SQLITE in the config and reloaded with same host and database info, but i def have MYSQL... and there was one site i forgot to take out that was added by acronym and i re-added it with long-name (minecraftserverlist) and it "added it" by generating votesites for that service site... i deleted it from serverdata file where it was at, reloaded, and it keeps showing up
but it did show the sites and i voted just got no diamonds that are set in the votesites.yml https://gyazo.com/c7b4c2698e8ffe04795dbf4a9946909a
https://gyazo.com/5ce5ca5269aec9eb9f6c05102d766411 do i need to do a /give %player% diamond 1 or something in the comments part?
and the thing is old sample files i dig for online all have different formats than the latest version and even the last one i updated from changed with no new sample on the website so i'm trying to compare with what i find out there but having to guess and use trial and error because most of it doesn't match
aha! online copy that showed up in a google search has ' ' around diamond but the config that came with the latest version doesn't, hope that makes the difference
meager wren
Hi, some knows how to change the world day count? Ex: Day 55 to Day 1
dusk drift
I think vanilla time set 0 cmd does this
still cape
grr, still no rewards, have to wait 24 hours, or bug someone else... and this is around the time i give up and return to setting up voting sites in another few weeks from now. thanks for the help some of you provided, i really appreciate it.
meager wren
I think vanilla time set 0 cmd does this
@dusk drift Thank you. I have essentials on the server so when i used time set 0 i added a new day instead of reset it, but with the command minecraft:time set 0 i reset the time days count:D
fallen oracle
Wait, so, Tob, they did the ddos by just mass downloading the file?
rich charm
Anyone know if I can just copy my world file to port over from vanilla? Like are there special directoreis for nether world data?
unkempt drift
pretty sure the server will do all that for you
dusk drift
I think Bukkit auto moves them over if they are detected from the vanilla format being all in one folder
vagrant niche
Yes
pulsar fox
@fallen oracle yea like the entirety of China used to use our MSDN archive for imaging machines
last pelican
does anyone know why this crashes
public void onArrowLand(ProjectileHitEvent e) {
Player player = (Player) e.getEntity().getShooter();
player.sendMessage("Triggered");
if (e.getEntity()instanceof Arrow) {
NamespacedKey key = new NamespacedKey(Main.instance, "Teleport");
player.sendMessage("Triggered");
if (player.getInventory().getItemInMainHand().getItemMeta().getPersistentDataContainer().has(key,PersistentDataType.STRING)) {
Location location = e.getEntity().getLocation();
player.teleport(location);
}
}
}
there's a missing space in the first if
cosmic raft
@last pelican namespaced key should be "teleport", not "Teleport"
last pelican
ok thanks
it still crashes
12.07 07:35:46 [Server] INFO at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_211]
12.07 07:35:47 [Server] ERROR Could not pass event ProjectileHitEvent to VanilaAddons v1.0
12.07 07:35:47 [Server] INFO java.lang.NullPointerException: null
12.07 07:35:47 [Server] INFO at me.rsbplays.Shockmc.Events.Events.onArrowLand(Events.java:30) ~[?:?]
12.07 07:35:47 [Server] INFO at com.destroystokyo.paper.event.executor.asm.generated.GeneratedEventExecutor8272.execute(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]
12.07 07:35:47 [Server] INFO at org.bukkit.plugin.EventExecutor.lambda$create$1(EventExecutor.java:69) ~[patched_1.16.1.jar:git-Paper-71]
12.07 07:35:47 [Server] INFO at co.aikar.timings.TimedEventExecutor.execute(TimedEventExecutor.java:80) ~[patched_1.16.1.jar:git-Paper-71]
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quasi valley
left swift
potent fossil
opal iris
please
who help me whit this error
.... [01:21:45 INFO]: public java.lang.String org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R1.inventory.CraftInventoryView.getTitle()
.... [01:21:45 INFO]: getTitle
.... [01:21:46 INFO]: class org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R1.inventory.CraftInventory
.... [01:21:46 INFO]: org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R1.inventory.CraftInventoryView@23661ee7
.... [01:21:46 INFO]: getItem, getTitle, getPlayer, setItem, getBottomInventory, getTopInventory, isInTop, getType, getHandle, getCursor, setCursor, getInventory, convertSlot, countSlots, getSlotType, setProperty, close, wait, wait, wait, equals, toString, hashCode, getClass, notify, notifyAll
minor badge
#paper-help btw
vernal moth
could somebody experienced with webpack pls setup a dev server thingy in this project? ๐
wooo, managed to render the 404 page ๐
without styles of course
that would be too easy
ok thats kinda easy to solve tho
vernal moth
idk whats wrong with the dropdown
twin lagoon
mini hangar2 1.17 when
quasi valley
dropdown looks good, don't know what you're talking about 
twin lagoon
fuck yeah
vernal moth
I mean, thats 3 pages down
error, notFound and timeout
including the whole base layout etc
those where 7 scala html templates
only 51 to go ๐
vernal moth
its dark reader
vernal moth
no it doesnt ๐
cosmic raft
[01:57] MiniDigger: its dark reader
vernal moth
didnt you get the memo? am rewriting ore in spring
am in the progress of converting the scala html templates to freemarker
cosmic raft
no, no one (read: you) tells me these things
vernal moth
I thought you saw the memes already ๐
but yeah, idk if am going full crazy or if this will actually be helpful
but am done with scala/play
cedar spade
hangar wen
quasi valley
I know someone that could help with webpack, but I think he's still asleep ๐
vernal moth
I want to get the homepage to render before I drive out to my parents
twin lagoon
fallen oracle
Hot
vernal moth
which at least tells me my error controller is working ๐
cedar spade
Hangar2: "At least it errors successfully!"
fallen oracle
I'll be your error controller
quasi valley
next you just hear Glare scream "AAAH ERRRORRR"
fallen oracle
ERROR
cedar spade
wait kneny why did you think mini was asleep
cosmic raft
@vernal moth I'm writing something using Spring too, funny enough :P
quasi valley
Spring is bae
fallen oracle
ERROR
cosmic raft
quasi valley
your turn, glare!
cedar spade
ohhhhhhhhh I thought by "I know something" you meant you could help lol
fallen oracle
Ugh, fine, unzips pants
cedar spade
kash that looks eerily similar to something I was planning to do :p
fallen oracle
Maybe I misread what was going on here
cedar spade
JS developers aren't people
cosmic raft
what do you mean md?
cedar spade
was going to write a parchment-like API for EssX downloads but not in PHP
cosmic raft
yes glare
fallen oracle
Yay
cosmic raft
v1 was done in PHP because it was quick and easy :P
fallen oracle
Ahh
golden gust
huggles spring
fallen oracle
I've been working on a project for someone, but once that's all good, I'll let back into Holovid and whatever else I can.
golden gust
my uni stuff was done in spring + php
grave oxide
Rip you
fallen oracle
I got like 3 weeks before I move so I have like 1.5 weeks to do whatever I want.
golden gust
spring because spring <3
php because I know it well enough, made sense to not have to deal with node.js in a project I didn't want to have to deal with last minute WTFs?!
quasi valley
dropdown still not big enough 0/10
vagrant niche
Fix it
cedar spade
sponsored by minidigger
fallen oracle
Raid Shadow Legends
vernal moth
I feel like it has something to do with this
random sponsor is totally fully implemented btw
cedar spade
I'd offer to contribute but I checked out yesterday and Maven seemed to resolve different dependency versions to what was being used, so gotta figure that out first
vernal moth
it does?
cedar spade
On my end it did, idk why
cedar spade
Gonna do a fresh clone and try again today
vernal moth
fixing the templates can easily be split up
fallen oracle
It did that shit to me in the old hangar!
cedar spade
hmm might be old snapshots idk
quasi valley
worked fine for me as well
oh the person woke up
they'll pr something once they're on their computer
vernal moth
quasi valley
they're asking whether it should be minimal setup or with typescript/eslint
fallen oracle
Yuck
vernal moth
webpack itself is setup already
vestal jasper
nerds
quasi valley
ah
vernal moth
just need a dev server so that I dont need to compile
quasi valley
ahh
cosmic raft
kek
vernal moth
ah I see
twin lagoon
vernal moth
twin lagoon
should've used Squarespace
quasi valley
I want to see a sponsorclash between square and wix
quasi valley
10/10
zealous wedge
11/10
quasi valley
could still be slightly bigger
zealous wedge
don't be like kneny, think positively
quasi valley
0/10 too much zml
vernal moth
I mean
console is much more happy https://i.imgur.com/2Ou7HTJ.png
I remember why its not finding font awesome btw
kenny, if your webpack friend would fix that one too, that would be awesome ๐
cosmic raft
my exception works
vernal moth
thats in the common config
bundle analyzer can be commented out, but copy plugin needs to be enabled
its complaining about wrong options or smth
cosmic raft
public class UhOh extends Exception {
final HttpStatus status;
final Consumer<ObjectNode> consumer;
public static UhOh oopsies(final HttpStatus status, final Consumer<ObjectNode> consumer) {
return new UhOh(status, consumer);
}
private UhOh(final HttpStatus status, final Consumer<ObjectNode> consumer) {
this.status = status;
this.consumer = consumer;
}
}
@ControllerAdvice
public class UhOhHalp {
private final ObjectMapper om;
@Autowired
private UhOhHalp(final ObjectMapper om) {
this.om = om;
}
@ExceptionHandler(UhOh.class)
@ResponseBody
public ResponseEntity<?> uhOh(final UhOh uh) {
final ObjectNode on = this.om.createObjectNode();
uh.consumer.accept(on);
return ResponseEntity.status(uh.status).body(on);
}
}
@vernal moth
:D
quasi valley
UhOh
cosmic raft
^^
vernal moth
classic spring ๐
cosmic raft
if(project == null) throw UhOh.oopsies(HttpStatus.NOT_FOUND, error -> error.put("error", "no such project"));
vernal moth
also: fun fact, ores requests are not RFC compliant
cosmic raft
hm?
vernal moth
"Invalid character found in the request target [/?tags[]=Velocity]. The valid characters are defined in RFC 7230 and RFC 3986"
cosmic raft
ok, so what character
vernal moth
I would take an executed guess and say []
quasi valley
@vernal moth you can ping @vivid pebble directly, made him join here
he's the smart person
vernal moth
tomcat is really dum with enforcing shit like this
cosmic raft
implementation 'org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-undertow'
implementation('org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-web') {
exclude group: 'org.springframework.boot', module: 'spring-boot-starter-tomcat'
}
:p
vernal moth
at least they allow easily changing this one
ok, lemme just change to undertow instead then
before I do more stuff thats only valid on tomcat ๐
vernal moth
at work whenever I do a new app, the error pages are http.cat ๐
not sure if I have pics you dont know michael
cosmic raft
@twin lagoon https://korobi.vq.lc/kitty/
vernal moth
didnt take any new
twin lagoon
quasi valley
blep
cosmic raft
one nice thing about spring, too:
Build findByProjectAndVersionAndNumber(final String project, final String version, final int number);
vernal moth
yeah, crud repos are magic
golden gust
;3
vernal moth
especially with intellij auto suggesting shit
cosmic raft
yup
vernal moth
ok, I gotta go now, if we can get that webpack copy plugin fixed, I think the index page is ready to at least implement some project listing backend
cosmic raft
also love how you can validate @golden gust
/v2/projects/{project:[a-z]+}/versions/{version:[0-9pre.-]+}/builds/{build:\d+}/downloads/{download}
vivid pebble
@vernal moth do you not generate an index.html on purpose in Hangar2 Frontend?
cosmic raft
{
"_id" : ObjectId("5f0addab3a08834ad4f2e738"),
"project" : ObjectId("5f0addab3a08834ad4f2e6d6"),
"version" : ObjectId("5f0addab3a08834ad4f2e6df"),
"number" : 89,
"downloads" : [
"paper-89.jar"
],
"_class" : "io.papermc.ruler.v2.database.document.Build"
}
mongo i see
vivid pebble
@vernal moth PR is now online. https://github.com/MiniDigger/Hangar2/pull/11
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peak dirge
Eww, MongoDB
ancient bolt
@cosmic raft that's kind of nice but also once you start working with even remotely complex databases it gets awful
I much prefer to manually write SQL
peak dirge
Okay, I'm probably going to be going overkill by adding Guice to this plugin...
worn ember
SQL is suck
ancient bolt
compelling argument
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quasi valley
ancient bolt
@vernal moth pure-remapped spigot to SRG with no patches is at 5 compilation errors now ๐
all of them are due to not implementing abstract methods, not sure how to tackle this one but it'll take more digging
I'll see if I can open a PR with my mapping merge changes in lorenz tomorrow
I'm quite proud of it, hopefully jamie doesn't hate it lol
worn ember
Wow Kenny u bully
ancient bolt
the classes not implementing abstract methods seems to be due to some mising mappings, so it's not quite perfect yet
worn ember
Wyd demon?
sacred escarp
Im running on a 64GB Dedicated server, and I would like to use the JVM Startup Flags, the server has 16gb ram, which flags should I use?
spice finch
.flags
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smoky python
Paypal
cedar spade
You don't allocate all the RAM on your machine
sacred escarp
Machine = 64 GB
smoky python
Thats a stack
cedar spade
You can follow the guide and set whatever RAM you want, but you need to leave some for the OS and some for the JVM
worn ember
If the server is 16 then just give it 16 lol
ancient bolt
ah, not sure how this happened, but I grabbed the wrong mapping canExecute (Lnet/minecraft/server/TickTask;)Z d
sacred escarp
Can i change 10G to 16G?
ancient bolt
anyways time to sleep
worn ember
Goodnight
smoky python
Have nice dreams
sacred escarp
cedar spade
Set the heap size to whatever you want, but be aware that higher heap could lead to worse GC pauses
sacred escarp
Yes, thats 2gb ram for JVM.
smoky python
Swap is slow
sacred escarp
java -Xms14G -Xmx14G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paperclip.jar nogui
Is this good?
smoky python
Wtf
smoky python
I prefer screen
worn ember
Nick. Ur a dum noodle
worn ember
@smoky python koekoek jonge
quasi valley
apparently there's gonna be some open mini-concert right next to our house and you have to pay money to sit down somewhere... now watch me sit on my couch with an open window 
vernal moth
@vernal moth do you not generate an index.html on purpose in Hangar2 Frontend?
@vivid pebble nah, the HTML is getting generated, all the urls are injected in a base.ftlh or smth. I need to figure out how to do hashes and stuff there
worn ember
@quasi valley u greedy fuk
vernal moth
@vernal moth PR is now online. https://github.com/MiniDigger/Hangar2/pull/11
@vivid pebble thanks, looking good, I'll check it out when am back home
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vernal moth
I'll see if I can open a PR with my mapping merge changes in lorenz tomorrow
@ancient bolt looking forward to that, but I guess I'll just abandon my stuff in favor of paperweight and try to make sure paperweight supports forks
void void
hi
ancient bolt
Yeah once a solid workflow is built we can figure out how to structure it to support forks
And once I have a perfect SRG remapped source set it should be trivial to spit out versions with any mappings we want so we can decide which we want to use
I almost wanna say let's just use Mojang mappings and comit SRG mappings in patches, that way no Mojang names ever get committed
quasi valley
it's so nice being able to use them for reference right on release of every snapshot
just missing in actual software usage ๐
vernal moth
But that way we can't write patches in mojang mappings, right? Review would also be meh
They just need to get their shit together
ancient bolt
Lol just provide different human readable mapping options in paperweight, everyone can use the mappings they prefer
If they give us permission to use their mappings in patches that would be dope
If not we'll have to default to an intermediate mapping for patches and just fall back to good tooling to support that
Reviewing in GitHub would become impossible, would require pulling the PR down and remapping
Not amazing but workable
void void
hi
ancient bolt
That already exists
vernal moth
I remember smth like that existing
ancient bolt
So yeah that would basically fix that problem tbh
Another option is a GitHub bot that replies with a gist of the remapped patch whenever someone updates a PR
so that way it's never in our source code but still available from GitHub
vernal moth
Lol
vernal moth
Best bet is for them to fix their licence
ancient bolt
I wouldn't wait for them lol
hollow plaza
Paper can use Mojang mappings?
ancient bolt
Maybe they'll work it out before we work out the technical details
vernal moth
It's been in review for quite some time know
ancient bolt
But at the rate I'm fixing these bugs maybe not
vernal moth
And last time we had bone in VC he was in active communication with legal about it
Like a meeting the day prior kinda of active
So like, I dont give up hope just yet
ancient bolt
The thing I don't understand is how they got the legal OK to release the mappings but not one bothered to say how people could actually use them
cedar spade
seeing yarn in a Maven build is weird
ancient bolt
Like, how did that even happen
cedar spade
Probably by asking "is it okay to release these" without asking "can we release these and let people use them in their projects"
vernal moth
Yeah, it's just miscommunication
Legal doesn't know shit about how we want to use them
๐
ancient bolt
Using mojang mappings will still require using some system, whether it's mcp or yarn, to get the patches necessary to generate compilable source code
vernal moth
Ppl say I am an alcoholic, but my parents opened the bottle, not me!
We also want to borrow param names from somewhere
ancient bolt
Like, imagine for a second getting rid of the mcdev patch and always having all of the source available because we don't have to depend on fucking spigot lol
Yeah, would be cool if mojang would give us those too lol
Then if they could give us their LVTs
vernal moth
They already said they don't want to expand the set of stuff they give us :/
ancient bolt
Ooh and code comments and relative positions of fhem
And formatting rules
Actually just release the source code, that would be dope
quasi valley
terse marsh
can you please recommend me a good plugin for setting homes and teleporting to another player?
ancient bolt
Param names are mostly fine, srg names are just hard to read for unmapped parameters
So maybe we could fill in the rest with a heuristic based on type like forgeflower does
quasi valley
and/or yoink from yarn if present ๐
terse marsh
@quasi valley does it need any extra modules or it's embedded? also can you please let me know how the players will be able to set their home(s) and tp to each other?
vernal moth
Issue with yoinking from another mapping set is that names will not make as much sense
Like, I have param names like ServerLevel worldServer all over the play
Because of how spigot names the param and mojang names the class
quasi valley
hmm right
vernal moth
@terse marsh first: use #paper-help pls. Second, read the essentials commands, it's really easy
quasi valley
ravza, just the plain main EssX jar. sethome, home for homes. tpa, tpaccept for teleporting
quasi valley
but I'd argue that even if the names referring to other mappings would most of the time be more helpful in giving context
.. or maybe even just for primitive/non-nms types
vernal moth
Demon was speaking about inferring the param names from the type I think
quasi valley
integer1 intensifies
cedar spade
yay I booted the spring or something
cedar spade
totally not running postgres in wsl because I couldn't be bothered with docker
terse marsh
did I ever mentioned that this is the best MC community I could find? ๐ really!
cedar spade
now to figure out anything about what spring is or why you're supposed to boot it
gusty idol
quasi valley
Wanted to be productive, but I kinda have a bit of background noise outside
latent valve
that video is FAKE!
spice finch
Buy noise cancelling headphones 
latent valve
it not upsidedown
cedar spade
hallelujah
worn ember
may the lord be with you
quasi valley
oh no this is getting awfully religious
worn ember
ak47 cocking sound in the background
spice finch
Watch out not to end like viper
quasi valley
nah I'll just throw some satanic looking books out of the window and watch all of them run away in fear
worn ember
just install the satanic cult plugin
cedar spade
okay so I've enabled a bunch of plugins that IntelliJ disables by default and now the templates are all colourful
what now
worn ember
worn ember
ez reports
cedar spade
aaaaa
worn ember
โจ๏ธ
vernal moth
I'll be back at like 3 or smth to continue fixing templates ^^
What's
paper-mojangapi?
https://papermc.io/repo/#browse/browse:maven-public:com%2Fdestroystokyo%2Fpaper%2Fpaper-mojangapi
@gusty idol parts of the paper api that depend on mojang apis
To not ruin projects like glowstone when we depend on brigadier
Buy noise cancelling headphones :WeSmart:
@spice finch or a good amp ๐ ๐
gusty idol
Thanks
vernal moth
Some satanic hard rock shit and watch them run ๐
quasi valley
they're pretty much 10 meters across my window, so I could very well do that ๐
worn ember
vernal moth
Mfw my watch tells me my recovery time from my bike trip to my parents is 21h
But I need to get back ๐ ๐
neat smelt
hanga wen
vernal moth
I already worked on hangar today
neat smelt
ouh
versed yacht
worn ember
Dyescape when ๐
vernal moth
Am gonna wait for paperweight
vestal jasper
is that toothpick 2.0
worn ember
true canyon
Let me guess, five low priority games due to all the reports including at least one from a teammate despite winning
worn ember
i wouldnt be opposed to it
communication abuse hmm when lmfao
steel pulsar
! TOXIC !
worn ember
latent valve
wanna play some dota? DED
unreal quarry
wait wait wait... so you're telling me there's a user-ran honor system in an online pvp lobby game?? yeaah.. dont see nothing wrong with that lmao
worn ember
its actually a pretty decent system
if you dont intentionally ruin games or abandon matches you wont get low prio
unreal quarry
worn ember
i've only ever gotten low prio like 2 times in the 6 year i play xD
i mean, they have NN's that can consistently beat pro players at the game, so i expect they can at least filter out false positives
unreal quarry
i dont play pvp games, but one game i did play ended up adopting an honor system (Gran Tursimo Sport) and it ended up ruining the franchise because people would abuse the shit out of it to put you out of races
people are dicks when given the opportunity
worn ember
yeah, here it doesnt do shit unless you get reported a lot over time
which there is no reason to do if your teammates arent dickheads
cedar spade
@vernal moth mind if I help with the templates?
worn ember
dusk drift
hehe
cedar spade
hnng looks like whatever the user header stuff is doing relies on controller-y stuff that needs to be done first
shuup yes I know how to web
vernal moth
Sure!
It already helps to just remap all ifs and loops and turning everything into macros
We can figure out the actual vars later then
I just came hope, having a shower and eating/resting a bit, then I'll be there
I need to cycle more often, I def lost more water than I drank the whole weekend, lol
cedar spade
@vernal moth gonna see if I can do linkout, just to figure out how this all works
cedar spade
Yeah doesn't look too bad, I've been basically just looking at the diff for the home view to see how it works
hangar pls
Are templates(/views/anything) supposed to auto-update in the spring-boot:run server?
Actually I'll move all the hangar spam to #719271820242714624
latent valve
@dusk drift 
worn ember
.try
limber knotBOT
still cape
it's what i've been doing a lot lately, i'm surprised how well everything still works
fervent bone
yo
does anyone know any plugins for more chats?
like german/turkish/french chat
where players could do a command to switch to those chats
still cape
oh and by the way korobi that clip inspires about as much appeal as https://i.pinimg.com/564x/83/03/96/83039603a3e632b29ef4a01e25d470c6.jpg
worn ember
vernal moth
I sweat way too much ๐
worn ember
u just shat ur pants
latent valve
still cape
i can't even talk to the bot? i didn't mention him or anything
vernal moth
that happens if you only ever do exercise in water normally
still cape
slightly more appealing than this recipe is https://i.pinimg.com/236x/1b/76/fc/1b76fcc1f563b4556338d6dda27415b7--savoury-cake-the-horror-the-horror.jpg
warm anchor
Thatโs peak Minecraft developer right there. He coded so much he shet himself
limber knotBOT
nothing against sentient bots!
worn ember
literally shitting out code
void void
yum
worn ember
these things are so weird
void void
yeah the only good use of them i can think of is either early game travel, or to make nether highways more easily
neat smelt
they are fun
steel pulsar
sometimes they just make things to have something to do
void void
Twitter
quasi valley
waxen panther
sus
stray oyster
void void
such a shame
waxen panther
Just realised Kenny is a dinnerbone clone wtf
quasi valley
wow upsidedownist
vernal moth
oh god
and oh nice
leaf and aikar will have some work to do in 1.16.2 then ๐
oh wait
thats 2014
reee
waxen panther
lmao
twin lagoon
bruh moment
serene bolt
yeah that got me, I was going to be very surprised that 1.16.2 was gonna be that massive lmao
void void
someone needs to bully him to get those patches
void void
yeah i knew
novel shadow
Random questionL Do you need a registered LLC to make a paypal business account?
twin lagoon
no
they don't ask for your legal business info stuff
just a name but it doesn't have to be registered
vernal moth
it really made sense, since minecraft now actually supports multiple dimensions
cunning raft
hey @serene bolt can you poke md-5 with this https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-5989
opaque glade
I recevied this error
io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(1) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(1): UnpooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 1, widx: 1, cap: 256)
someone can help me?
opaque glade
I recevied this error
io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(1) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(1): UnpooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 1, widx: 1, cap: 256)
someone can help me?
serene bolt
limber knotBOT
@ancient bolt I'm unlikely to hate it lol
void void
so can people just use bots for this server or how does this work
serene bolt
IRC bridge
serene bolt
anyone can join and talk in IRC
limber knotBOT
IRC channel is #paper IRC.spi.gt
void void
i dont know what that means
limber knotBOT
like this
void void
is Hex Chat good?
void void
um not free
limber knotBOT
yeah it's free
void void
tried connecting does not work
is that whats suppose to look like
well i guess i need to be identified to a registered account
limber knotBOT
I've not used a client where you configure it with the protocol, plenty that register the protocol for URLs though
void void
finite wave
Ah spigot uses nickserv
void void
first you have to connect and then you can register
finite wave
,/msg nickser
void void
no thank u lol
finite wave
?
finite wave
lol
limber knotBOT
features IRC has which dumdord doesn't: color.
golden gust
worn ember
I don't remember asking :p
vestal jasper
@someone
mighty storm
dum cord has more features
@void void like what, banning people for no reason? lmao
At least I can customize my client
mighty storm
Poor that user
finite wave
Yeah
finite wave
Which one?
mighty storm
wdym
finite wave
Discord profile?
mighty storm
Ye
finite wave
Why not?
cedar spade
Did you link to GH?
void void
i mean they've only been pinged 5 times
mighty storm
Crashes
cedar spade
On public?
mighty storm
Not on TestFlight yet apparently
void void
ooh i can add my github now
finite wave
I had crashes yesterday but they just fixed themselves suddenly
void void
now do i want people stalking me on there haha
mighty storm
Latest
finite wave
Rip u then
mighty storm
how tf am i down to 13% since I've taken that screenshot
finite wave
Lol
mighty storm
It was like 14 jk 13%
limber knotBOT
More features being voice I guess?
mighty storm
Chat wise irc technically has more
finite wave
You donโt enjoy monochrome chat?
mighty storm
But considering it's internet relay CHAT, that's about the end of where it shines, although everything being entirely customizable is a plus
cedar spade
I like how Discord still refers to the YouTube link as YouTube Gaming
which has been dead for years at this point
mighty storm
Remember discord isn't "modern" it was just created recently
limber knotBOT
I don't get the point about monochrome chat?
mighty storm
Even MINECRAFT which is OLDER than discord has more colors
There can easily be a permission allowing color chat
Just like irc channel modes
limber knotBOT
You specify hex colours with Minecraft now though right?
mighty storm
It's absolute bs that there's been literally nothing new post nitro. They have thousands of great suggestions that they aren't doing bull with
Yes Jamie so now there's 16million more colors
Than discord
finite wave
16,8
limber knotBOT
role colours are annoying anyway
everyone needs different colours, or they just aren't that useful
mighty storm
See i don't like that
golden gust
I just wish that there was a way to change the "no role" color
mighty storm
I like the color = this thing
olive marlin
Just give everyone a role?
mighty storm
No no
golden gust
See, the way IRC does it is nice
mighty storm
Auto roles are awful
golden gust
aka: It's literally 100% down to the client
mighty storm
Do not ever use auto roles especially on a public server
limber knotBOT
Honestly the colours should be a clientside thing
Let the user decide how colours should show, whether random for everyone or depending on role, etc
golden gust
I love the fact that my IRC client deals with colors in a way that each person basically gets their own color, makes it easier to follow who's speaking when there is a lot of noise
limber knotBOT
There's no reason it had to be one or the other, just let people choose
molten fable
Hi! Is this actually a bug? Becouse I can understand that it's not possible in 1.16.1
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) dolphin + depth strider 3 = insane speed : Minecraft - 16 comments, 382 points - ObiBram, 1y ago
mighty storm
My client is the name color is random but the permission like op, voiced, etc are the same color and before the name
Yes it is, this is discord we're talking about, anything that doesn't make them money is crazy
golden gust
That's what pisses me off about stuff like nitro, etc
especially when they pushed back all the goals to make it harder
rip 50mb file upload limit
limber knotBOT
I figure their balance sheet should be healthy by this point, but how they make money is beyond me tbh
lament patio
golden gust
I can imagine that people are just going to get fed up of discord doing nothing to make way for the next advanced chat
mighty storm
They basically force you to buy nitro
Oh, want to make your experience worthwhile? Suck our dick
limber knotBOT
Nitro is the paid thing right, what do you even get?
mighty storm
And even then they still ban whoever they feel like
golden gust
cross server emotes
finite wave
mighty storm
Ironic
golden gust
and that's basically the only feature people likely care about
finite wave
Tihi
void void
yeah pretty much
mighty storm
Custom emojis are probably the worst part of discord
They should've just stayed for twitch subs
Not so fast
finite wave
mighty storm
It costs $25 to sell your game, the announcement channel is to promote your game
void void
or just use a normal channel...
mighty storm
If you have a dev license and not a game( they're gonna revoke it
limber knotBOT
The whole announcement channel thing is stupid, you'd just use a normal channel lol
golden gust
I mean, they do when they get to fuck their users over
void void
yeah most of what they do is automated
mighty storm
Every partner I've talked to has told me that, I wonder what else they know
golden gust
When it comes to actually addressing shit on discord... well, lookup the news...
limber knotBOT
Whereas the EsperNet guys are great
mighty storm
yes and they wont once they go through it
limber knotBOT
Atleast this IRC server isn't awful, seems to have been well maintained
mighty storm
exactly, so theyll happily revoke it with no way to refund it
didnt you say it was 2 months ago?
ahh im contributing to a project but they use
Method()
{
}```nonsensethen you get nonsense like
if()
{
stuff
}
else
{
stuff
}
void void
oh no
steel pulsar
if (
)
mighty storm
it's either everything on its own line or everyone on one line
steel pulsar
is collegeboard what US compsci students are forced to use
finite wave
Some people are weird
mighty storm
i got a 4 on the ap test and look at me im still bad at java
serene bolt
all throughout my years of school I was taught to put braces on new line for Java, so I did that for quite a long time before doing it the "normal" way
void void
its readable but in the sense that burn my eyes
limber knotBOT
GitHub Issue #5 (Closed**** by windy1): [WIP] API Specification
vernal moth
@wheat quarry ^
steel pulsar
owned
serene bolt
lmao
finite wave
I mean
serene bolt
I had a PR that I made 5 years get merged the other day, only comment was "Thanks for this fix!"
waxen panther
cedar spade
inb4 ore rebases on top of hangar
waxen panther
hangore
vernal moth
that thought crossed my mind already ๐
waxen panther
scala dum ๐
waxen panther
no it's not
finite wave
Yes it is
serene bolt
finite wave
Kotlin is better tho
warm hornet
but it doesnt work
golden gust
Scala is nice if you have a bunch of scala devs
The problem is that as a public project, it's not gonna get as much attention as something with java would
vernal moth
scala is unreadable
fallen oracle
Scala bad
waxen panther
even more unreadable than kotlin
serene bolt
CiscoLovee #paper-help
steel pulsar
what the hell is scala
List("Hello", "World").mkString("", ", ", "!") what the fuck
waxen panther
lol you should see what mini posted yesterday
steel pulsar
i'm trying to parse it in my head i can't
waxen panther
steel pulsar
i spent a year converting assembly files in 2004-2005
finite wave
Haskell
steel pulsar
now i don't remember much of it but i'm pretty sure i could understand that
this looks absolutely fucked
steel pulsar
oh it's haskell
finite wave
Scala was also made for a functional type of programming
vernal moth
List("Hello", "World").mkString("", ", ", "!")what the fuck
@steel pulsar thats really understandable tho? in Java it would be smth likeList.of("Hello", "World").join(",") + "!"
steel pulsar
oh so it's just a list example
i thought you had to do that for every string
since they used it as the hello world example
void void
wtf that language
blazing pumice
Hey guys. I'm experiencing an issue where sometimes users enter portals from the Overworld and no return portal spawns in nether
I'm running the latest version of paper but it's been happening for a few days, since older versions of paper
void void
blazing pumice
Oops I meant to be in that channel sorry
vernal moth
man, this playstation cake tweet blew up
referring to this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayStationUK/status/1281594192356147205
Twitter
void void
lmao
woven otter
cedar spade
EssentialsX XMPP 2.18.0 has more downloads than both GeoIP and AntiBuild
what
who even
WHY
unkempt drift
XMPP gaining traction finally!! ๐
vernal moth
do you know any of those?
cedar spade
Nope
I've put messages on one of the DBO changelogs saying "if you genuinely still use XMPP please get in touch" but never heard anything
cedar spade
I think in the 4 years I've been doing EssX support we've only had 1 actual ticket come in about XMPP (aside from the error messages from people who didn't set it up)
almost all of these are from Spigot releases
grave oxide
Nope
woven otter
potato
peak dirge
@austere ivy Play on Mineteria, we optimized everything for potato computers. I promise you can get good FPS even on a Pentium 4.
It's decently playable on my laptop with an i5-8250U and Intel UHD Graphics 620
void void
give minecraft more ram
austere ivy
2.5gb? 3
void void
like multimc for some reason gives a max of 2gb
peak dirge
he's using 2GB
golden gust
time to get a newspaper round
void void
give it 4gb