general

[minor badge]

i like var

it's only for local variables so it's not that big a deal in terms of api and whatnot

[static badge]

var is there so when you're lazy you don't type out the full type when declaring a type

declaring an lvar *

[minor badge]

it was kinda useless with intellij's variable from expression feature tho

[static badge]

I don't like it because it just makes code harder to read

[olive marlin]

Would be nice to be able to write var, and then process it to replace var with real type.

[minor badge]

i find it easier to read, so guess it's just personal preference again

there's for sure an intellij plugin for that around, prof

[olive marlin]

I need to find one for Kotlin.

[minor badge]

search va[rl] , cursor on all, word ahead and use the inspection thing to specify type explicitly

[cedar spade]

seeing the Switch at 1080p highlights how crap the font rendering is in the system menu

also I forgot to mention the monitor arrived

[viral hornet]

@void void where is that 😍

[twin lagoon]

hi camm

[cedar spade]

Okay so

I measured up the space between my desk and shelf to see if the monitor would fit

Turns out the monitor on its stand is 1cm higher than the description states

The top of the monitor is actually level with the bottom of the shelf, so it won't go under because of the shelf fittings

Time to reshuffle my desk aaaaaaaa

[void void]

PS5

[cedar spade]

Also leads to this amusing situation where my old monitor is lower than the new one

And significantly shorter

[void void]

OK nobody cares

[wide chasm]

I care

[ashen cliff]

Welcome to my world, fitting 2 21 inch monitors on the sides of a 19 inch laptop monitor.

[spice finch]

I also bought second monitor, with stand its higher 1.5cm than first one.. so annyoing

i put book under it

and its about the same now

[warm anchor]

Monitor arm is sometimes expensive but totally worth

[spice finch]

Im thinking about it

but my desk is really short

[worn ember]

laughs in old boxes and own made stand

[spice finch]

and IDK if it'll fit well there

[warm anchor]

A good one can extend backward so you actually gain more desk space!

[spice finch]

also oen of my montiors doesnt support stands

so I'd have to change it i think

[worn ember]

are you sure your stand doesnt support the monitor instead?

[spice finch]

I mean there are no holes

for mounting it

[warm anchor]

With enough of power drill, every monitor supports it

[worn ember]

make a hole

[ashen cliff]

Glue.

[viral hornet]

hi michael

[worn ember]

i have 3 different monitors xD

[spice finch]

@ashen cliff imagine monitor falling off the stand after gluing it

[twin lagoon]

hi cammy man

[spice finch]

[worn ember]

then you didnt glue it good enough

[cedar spade]

excuse the dust and wallpaper

[worn ember]

too late, i already judged you

[spice finch]

[cedar spade]

I'll probably look for a book or something

[warm anchor]

I mean he doesn’t get paid to clean his desk. No worries

[ashen cliff]

Nobody cares.

[robust tiger]

As for a rather bugfix version (1.16.2) they are changing a lot of technical stuff

and they finally fixed nether flora

[compact pulsar]

Can someone tell me if fog is server-side or client-side in 1.16?

[worn ember]

Since we flexing cx

top image quality and all

[void void]

i really need to get a 2nd monitor

[cedar spade]

...fog?

[neat smelt]

its clientside

[cedar spade]

Fog has always been clientside

[worn ember]

ye i've turned on the fog machine in my room

[void void]

nicee

[worn ember]

client side fog

[void void]

nice server

is that rtp plugin public

[worn ember]

yes

[cedar spade]

you know what other RTP plugin is public?

[void void]

time to have fun

everythings public if you have good friends

[cedar spade]

insert subtle promotion for EssentialsX

[worn ember]

doesnt even have multi world support smh

[cedar spade]

2.19

probably

[void void]

om my gaud you have like 10 thousand folders

[ashen cliff]

folders

[void void]

where?

[warm anchor]

FastAsyncEssentialsX when?

[worn ember]

its called structure

[void void]

i created one for like 2 hours

[worn ember]

what happend after those 2 hours?

did it self destruct

[void void]

it still works

[cedar spade]

@warm anchor EssentialsX 2.18 :p

at least has proper support async chunk loading

[warm anchor]

[azure flower]

bit late but

[void void]

screenshot

[worn ember]

lol

its cuz my pc was in sleepmode

[void void]

can barely read that

the server overloaded?

🔥

overloaded? question mark?

[worn ember]

[13:48:59 WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 29053436ms or 581068 ticks behind

[opaque glade]

my server crashed from a player -> https://pastebin.com/AVfXSAu6

anyone can help me?

[ashen cliff]

1.8.8

[void void]

1.8, i ain't helpin

[opaque glade]

or i need to use bungee?

[ashen cliff]

90% it's one of the stupid book exploits.

[worn ember]

i'm going to blame fdfsdfsfsfsf

[opaque glade]

no,it s a bedwars server

[azure flower]

Who sent too many packets :(

[worn ember]

F

[ashen cliff]

You don't actually need books for the book exploit.

[opaque glade]

or I need to use waterfall?

ohh

[warm anchor]

That’s the beauty of a decade old code and unsupported version

[worn ember]

"no books for the book exploit" lol wat

who named that exploit

[ashen cliff]

Book channel exploit.

So book exploit for short.

[worn ember]

#book

[opaque glade]

it s a plugin to repair this?

[worn ember]

thats not a thing

[opaque glade]

or I need to use waterfall?

[ashen cliff]

Some people actually called it Jessica or some bs.

[void void]

i mean too many packets can be done using a lot of things

books are just for dummies

[worn ember]

could always update to a non 5 year old version

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

oh yep its a book thing, server crashed when the signed it

[warm anchor]

DRAGON THATS ASKING TOO MUCH /s

[worn ember]

REEEE

[opaque glade]

can I use waterfall to stop this?

or I need to use a plugin

?

[twin lagoon]

1.8 rip

[void void]

you can fix it by updating 👍

[warm anchor]

You don’t get support for outdated version sir.

[cedar spade]

critical bugfix

[worn ember]

yuck

nasty bug

[cedar spade]

literally gamebreaking smh

how did essentials go for so long with this bug

[spice finch]

[void void]

me

[spice finch]

[worn ember]

tf is that

[spice finch]

fast internet speed

it took only 32 minutes to download gradle wrapper and download few dependencies

[waxen panther]

bruh

gradle isn't that big

how do you even use discord

[void void]

by using it

[waxen panther]

Ah thanks for clearing that up

[void void]

np

[twin lagoon]

hi brocc

[waxen panther]

Hello Sir Michael

[spice finch]

it was 63MB iirc

[worn ember]

Hello thank u for using indian tech support, i'll be your scammer host today

[neat smelt]

what are you using? depleted celular data?

[true canyon]

Gradle is just evil

[void void]

depleted

wonder where u learned that word from

[spice finch]

wonder what the fuck it means

[void void]

lol

[worn ember]

it means depleted

[void void]

it means ran out of

[spice finch]

it makes no sense in polish

I mean this sentence

[neat smelt]

as if you cant speak english lol

[worn ember]

english is noob language

too ez

[spice finch]

german >

[void void]

have you tried studying english in school

bruh

[worn ember]

yes Captalizing words is Nice

[neat smelt]

deutsche sprache schwere sprache

[spice finch]

I mean I'm studying english but im not that good using it

trying to practice it anyway

that's why some of my sentences might have no sense

[neat smelt]

i mean, atleast i can understand someone, its fine

my english also isnt the yellow of the egg

[void void]

nice metaphor

[mental meadow]

do you know the word heartcircleruntogetherbreak?

[spice finch]

now I do

[worn ember]

tnx for nothing

[mental meadow]

Herzkreislaufzusammenbruch

[spice finch]

[void void]

that word

doesn't exist

[spice finch]

German has so many words-written-like-that-which-makes-no-sense

[neat smelt]

yes i know that word, i'm from germany

long words are fun

[waxen panther]

Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft

bruh

[neat smelt]

Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
Aufmerksamkeitsdefizithyperaktivitätsstörung

welcome to my ted talk, thanks

[mental meadow]

you can just chain nouns together and it makes a new word, isn't that beautiful

[spice finch]

no

[mental meadow]

then you are a Schönheitsverweigerer

[wide chasm]

It is

[cosmic raft]

hallo

[wide chasm]

The one thing English needs

[spice finch]

Only me having issues with sending messages on this guild?

[wide chasm]

(If you ignore the other things English needs.)

[spice finch]

Well it works now

[mental meadow]

German language pros: you can chain nouns together
cons: it sounds ugly af and we don't have gender neutral pronouns or anything

[wide chasm]

Isn't Das gender neutral?

Oh wait

Nvm

[cedar spade]

Imagine having gendered articles

[mental meadow]

das is not an pronoun, it's an article

[wide chasm]

Yeah lol

[worn ember]

Das Hund

[wide chasm]

You're a Hund Dark

[neat smelt]

*Der Hund

[worn ember]

kaaskop

[mental meadow]

The only gender neutral pronoun we have is "es" and that is usually used to describe things and not people, altough I have seen a lot of people start to use it and reclaim it now

[wide chasm]

That... that sounds wrong

[worn ember]

we have "it" lul

[mental meadow]

They

[cedar spade]

In English people tend to use they

Which is fine

I think it's been a thing for ages anyway so idk

[worn ember]

@wide chasm do we have gender neutral terms?

[wide chasm]

I've made a habit of just using they for people in English

Not that I know of

[neat smelt]

english: the
germany: der, die, das, ein, eine, einem, einer, dem, den

[mental meadow]

"They" in german would probably be "Sie" which unfortunately is the same as "she", "sie", just without capitalisation

[worn ember]

wow dutch is homophobic

wait thats the wrong term

smh

i cant think

[cedar spade]

wat

[wide chasm]

'Ein', 'eine' and 'einem' are 'an' and 'a'.

[waxen panther]

sus

[wide chasm]

English should scrap 'a' and only use 'an'
runs

[worn ember]

i dont see an issue with that

[minor badge]

"they" is not "Sie", "they" is "sie"

[limber knot]

anybody here has freemarker experience?

trying to pass a list/sequence to a macro

[worn ember]

.ask

kappa

[limber knot]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

<@breadcrumb path=root.getActiveNavPath()/>

`For "." left-hand operand: Expected a hash, but this has evaluated to a sequence (wrapper: f.t.SimpleSequence):

==> root.getActiveNavPath()`

why is it expecting a hash (their dum term for object) and doesn't accept my list/sequence?

[worn ember]

4 mins to build an RTP plugin

(with expired cache)

[cedar spade]

EssentialsX only takes 1m14s to build

[spice finch]

feels maven man

[worn ember]

you dont have much dependencies i think?

many*

[cedar spade]

1m41s is the longest with expired cache

on GitHub at least, I think Jenkins is a bit quicker

we depend on Spigot, Vault, PaperLib and our compat layers for 1.8.8+ and 1.13+

[worn ember]

i depend on spigot, vault, paperlib, and like 5-6 protection plugins

so i need to download their entire api every time too

which is annoying

[spice finch]

why every time

[worn ember]

maven roasting me

welle very time the cache expires

[spice finch]

yeah so not that often

[worn ember]

still 4 minutes is a long time

[spice finch]

it is

[worn ember]

idk how but my fat jar is 410kb lmao

[void void]

is that big?

[worn ember]

for a simple plugin, yes

[void void]

damn

i usually play around with stuff thats at least 4mb

[worn ember]

i mean, just think about how many lines you need to get 410kb

[void void]

i think its usually mostly dependencies

[worn ember]

yeah

but i dont use 99% of their API

i just need to validate a location

and thats it

and the scope is provided too

so i dont think it should even shade

[spice finch]

you can exclude when shading

[worn ember]

provided is excluded

[spice finch]

youre right

xD

[worn ember]

the original jar is 64kb

[void void]

google makes thicc librarys haha

6mb dependency

6/7 of the jar

[worn ember]

i think its the jetbrains annotations that make it so big

[quasi valley]

don't tell me you're shading them

[worn ember]

should i also mark them as provided?

[quasi valley]

yes

they aren't runtime annotations

I think I'll start using this for incomplete issues https://i.imgur.com/Y7YFp2m.png

[worn ember]

lol

[minor badge]

jetbrains annotations arent even that big

should be a couple kb at most

[worn ember]

its down to 392kb now

[charred hound]

@worn ember yo I love your rtp plugin, much “better” than betterRTP

[worn ember]

lol tnx

[void void]

why not just open up the jar as a zip and see whats biggest

[worn ember]

im doing that

but most are just like 1kb files

and not even that many

well ACF properties files are like 94kb

i mean, size doesnt matter right

[bleak urchin]

It matters with my potato upload speeds :(

Uploading Dynmap and DiscordSRV is always a pain

[void void]

how much upload speed you got?

[bleak urchin]

Right now 3mbit, but a few months ago I had 1mbit

[void void]

wait a minute

[bleak urchin]

My current download is 20mbit by comparison

[void void]

youre a beaner so it makes sense

amo sudamerica 😎

[bleak urchin]

A Puerto Rican specifically

[void void]

i see

upload speeds have always been a pain

[worn ember]

[void void]

i got the same as you, 3mbit

[worn ember]

just use your server to download it directly

[bleak urchin]

Can't do that on shared hosts

Also can't wget with spigot either

[neat smelt]

i have a uploadspeed of 1.4

ping goes brrrr when i upload a file

[neat smelt]

1200ms brrrr

[void void]

what

what host is that?

[bleak urchin]

Any shared hosts

[worn ember]

ah yes, math

[peak dirge]

Floating point accuracy

[worn ember]

thats not floating point lol

its just scientific notation i think

or whatever its called

[peak dirge]

I see it now

Damn it takes you far

[worn ember]

yeah, between the vanilla worldborder

so if you dont change its pretty big

[bleak urchin]

I hate scientific notation

[worn ember]

29,999,984 blocks apparently

[bleak urchin]

I only see a point for it with numbers beyond a quadrillion

[worn ember]

meh

i get why they do it, but its still a bit annoying

[limber knot]

Why are you teleporting people 16 million blocks out?

[void void]

-1.6x10^4

[worn ember]

Villager suffocated in a wall ah yes, suicidal villagers

[void void]

darkeyedragon did you study computer science in school?

[bleak urchin]

Anybody here with an MX Master mouse?

[twin lagoon]

i have the mx master 2s @bleak urchin

[bleak urchin]

How's the responsiveness/input lag? Everyone I looked it says it shouldn't be used for gaming, but is it that bad? I have a Logi M510 and I barely notice any jitter nor input lag

Surely if the M510 is good enough for me, the master 3 should be about the same or better

[twin lagoon]

i've used it as my primary mouse for a year or two now @bleak urchin

including a variety of games

such as call of duty modern warfare, csgo, rainbow six siege

logitech excels in wireless mouse technology imo, there's no noticable inputlag, responsiveness is excellent

i highly recommend the mx master series, my brother has the 3 and it's great

i plan on picking up the 3 soon aswell

[bleak urchin]

I see

[twin lagoon]

battery life is 👌 aswell

[void void]

🍔 😋

[bleak urchin]

Not as impressive as my own mouse with 2 years

The MX Master 3 has USB c at least

[twin lagoon]

well yeah but rechargable >

[worn ember]

darkeyedragon did you study computer science in school?
@void void not really no. I studied graphical design in highschool and now app development in college

[void void]

bukkit side interest?

[worn ember]

Wym?

[void void]

do you code the plugins for fun

[worn ember]

Oh yeah. I enjoy programming.

[quasi valley]

no ded only does it for the money

that greedy cuck

all of the 0 cents everyone's getting

[worn ember]

Shut up. I could go work a week and make more than everything I've made from plugin dev cx

[spice finch]

Kennys upsidedown his mind doesn't matter

[cedar spade]

well you won't be able to sell plugins on hangar

[worn ember]

Booo

[spice finch]

Wtf? 1 star

[quasi valley]

*when it's done

[worn ember]

*if it's get done

[cedar spade]

it's using spring it'll be easier than ore v2

runs

[worn ember]

Why didn't they just use php

Or even better. ASP

Or even better better. ASP Core

[spice finch]

Perl for life

[worn ember]

I mean. Any of those are still better than whatever they're using now cx

Change my mind

[cedar spade]

express

[worn ember]

ah yes, it was very express indeed xD

couldnt get it working in over 2 hours so i just expressed it away

[void void]

what do you think

[worn ember]

hot

[bleak urchin]

I opened the LibsDisguise plugin to check which version it's running (it autoupdates without renaming), and uh

version: 10.0.15
build-date: 08/07/2020 06:11
build-number: 666

[zealous wedge]

ayy it's Satan's number 🖤

[slim nymph]

what are you talking about @worn ember

[worn ember]

i mean, i'm just saying lol, i was just wondering why my jar was so big lol

[slim nymph]

i was talking about the "why didnt use php"

[worn ember]

ohh

[spice finch]

hangar

[worn ember]

i thought you meant about the paperlib thing

[slim nymph]

why didnt who? the sponge team?

[worn ember]

yeah but it wasnt serious

i was memeing

[slim nymph]

java devs using java solutions

https://giphy.com/gifs/homer-simpson-head-exploding-26gseQZ5oUvc2mkFi

[void void]

gore

[quasi valley]

scala

[worn ember]

that looks disgusting

[quasi valley]

let's just pretend aikar sent this

[slim nymph]

there, less graphic version

[worn ember]

im just saying they shouldve used something i can work with obviously 😉

[void void]

balloon popping omg

[slim nymph]

well go back a few years and tell the sponge team that

[quasi valley]

no, now we can just scream at mini :D

[worn ember]

well thats kind of a paradox

cuz then i wouldnt know sponge existed yet

anyway lasagna time

[void void]

what is sponge

[slim nymph]

wait why did you start a new repo @vernal moth ._. starting over really isnt the solution. it looks like had ore pretty much near ready to go

[void void]

yes im starving too

[zealous wedge]

🧽 is 🧽

[quasi valley]

he's trying to take ore and throw it into spring

[slim nymph]

"port" ?

[quasi valley]

not completely starting over

[vernal moth]

Just wanting to give it a try and see how it goes really

But ore isn't maintainable for any of us

[slim nymph]

is there a scala to java converter

[vernal moth]

Don't think so, lol

[slim nymph]

then how is it a port, sounds like a lot of rewriting

[vernal moth]

Even if this doesn't get anywhere, which wouldn't be surprising, I still get more insight into the Scala ore

So I feel like investing a few evenings in trying doesn't hurt

[quasi valley]

'port' was just me misusing english :p

[twin lagoon]

kneny has the pepega load screen been implemented yet

[vernal moth]

I only worked one evening on it zet

Well, port fits quite well

[cinder python]

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/edit-scala-code.html

[quasi valley]

I mean it does include changes, it's not like it's 1to1 code

[vernal moth]

The idea is that just adopting everything ore did is still easier than starting from scratch

[cinder python]

may not be the version ya need tho

[vernal moth]

Idk, I will reevaluate next week on how to proceed

[worn ember]

use ASP and let M$ generate everything for you lol, it has user authentication and everything

[slim nymph]

@void void https://www.spongepowered.org/ it's a "let's build a new ecosystem" that spawned after the bukkit legal drama.

[vernal moth]

So does spring

[slim nymph]

dont be dumb dark

[worn ember]

i dont use spring

so i wouldnt know

[quasi valley]

cuz ur a dum dum

[slim nymph]

our goal isnt for you to know it lol

[waxen panther]

[worn ember]

😢

so mean

[void void]

aikar

did u drop ur coffee cup

lol

[slim nymph]

were not gonna go paying MS to launch paper servivices

what?

[void void]

noting

[worn ember]

you dont really have to, you can just install the runtime

Azure is big doo doo anyway

[slim nymph]

theres 3 worlds, open source, microsoft, and apple

we live in the first one

[worn ember]

🤔

[slim nymph]

only reason people use ms technologies is for the ms support contracts

[worn ember]

and cuz they're forced into it in college

(me)

[slim nymph]

thats where you learn "this shit sucks" and not pay attention

[gloomy warren]

that's sad

[slim nymph]

i totally buzzed out during MS stuff in school as I knew i wouldnt be using it

[worn ember]

i still gotta pass my classes lmao

and my ASP teacher is some mongoloid who things he knows everything cuz he can work with ASP

[slim nymph]

write a VB.net program that downloads java and IntelliJ and give it to professor

[serene bolt]

lmao

[worn ember]

VB

[void void]

i did some vb

[worn ember]

i member the VB days

[slim nymph]

I did VB4 then VB6 then finally VB.net

[worn ember]

the whole .NET eco system is so confusing

you got like 50 frameworks

[slim nymph]

why?

[void void]

Dim int1 As Integer

lol

[worn ember]

and they're all the same but they also arent

[void void]

ListBox1.Items.Clear()

that was 4 years ago lol

[worn ember]

i kinda like WPF

but ASP is just horrible

excuse me ASP Core

[gloomy warren]

I'm glad I don't have to make anything with web development 😄

[worn ember]

hmm idk, but i think my teacher had a more impressive graph of all the shit MS pumps out

[vernal moth]

I never came into contact with MS software Dev stuff before this last project

Ported our user accounts to msft azure ad b2c

It was such a shit project

Double the time

Than planned

Should have just used keycloak

[gloomy warren]

"the microsoft c++ compiler does compile that project, gcc is garbage" - that are the best guys

[worn ember]

i gotta retake all my ASP classes

well if i fail my retakes in august

so no thanks

[vernal moth]

I mean, mircosofts compiler is actually way better than GCC in benchmarks

[worn ember]

they have some good stuff, but they always manage to fuck it up somehow

[hallow kernel]

Can I ask for help regarding a plugin I was making, in this server?

[void void]

you could use #paper-dev if its for spigot

[vernal moth]

Sure, #paper-dev

spigot

Lol

[hallow kernel]

Yes

Ok

[vernal moth]

I hope it's for paper

[worn ember]

(just say its for paper kappa)

[hallow kernel]

Spigot

Should I ask at Dev or help?

[void void]

dev

[quasi valley]

I read that in the head and shoulders knees and toes rhythm

with a very fast second "and"

[cedar spade]

apparently I got orange and purple the wrong way round

[minor badge]

whats up with the kodamilla guy smh

[serene bolt]

I love how vibrant the colors on signs are now, soooo much better than the old gross dark shades before

[cedar spade]

better

also EssX's /editsign is a godsend

[worn ember]

good job patting yourself on the back there 😉

[cedar spade]

It wasn't my feature :p

[worn ember]

it is pretty epic tho

[cedar spade]

no more Minecraft data command fuckery

[minor badge]

bruh

editsign since when

i'm gonna use that so fucking much

[cedar spade]

uh, like a couple weeks ago

[minor badge]

[cedar spade]

supports &#rrggbb too

[cedar spade]

I think JRoy added it

[minor badge]

jroy is a chad

[bleak urchin]

Say, how can you even fit a reasonable amount of text when using &#rrggbb

[minor badge]

they use components

well, it should anyways...

dunno if that api is merged or used

[cedar spade]

EssX cheats and uses md_5's section-x format

we'll use components eventually

[quasi valley]

minimessage wen

[cedar spade]

he says

hang on why are there different versions of that song online

"orange and purple and blue" is what I knew and apparently that's not wrong

[twin lagoon]

[worn ember]

i thought edit sign was always a thing?

or it used to be long ago

[void void]

Anyone that uses MacOS and can help me please, yesterday my Minecraft was having trouble, so I deleted it , but for some reason some apps wont load, the ones downloaded from the Appstore have no problem, and so do the ones that I downloaded before yesterday, but the apps I download now wont load, they keep bouncing in the bottom fast access bar, and then they will simply freeze and say they are not loading. I tried reinstalling all these apps (Minecraft actually, from Minecraft.net but nothing happened, I also downloaded other Minecraft launchers to see if something could work but its not only Minecraft, as I told its with any app I download from Safari.

[cedar spade]

there was a plugin called iPyronic's Sign Editor ages ago

[worn ember]

yeah maybe i'm thinking of another plugin

thought it was part of essentials

like in 1.5.2

[cedar spade]

was really neat back in the day, idk if anyone ported it to 1.14+

I don't recall Essentials ever having that tbh

[worn ember]

[bleak urchin]

How new is /editsign? It's the best thing ever

[worn ember]

literally scroll up

[cedar spade]

Added on 1st July

[bleak urchin]

uh, like a couple weeks ago
Right

[cedar spade]

so less than a couple weeks :p

[void void]

Anyone that uses MacOS and can help me please, yesterday my Minecraft was having trouble...
@void void I tried posting it on some subredits but no one answered

[minor badge]

9 days is more than a single week, therefore it is plural thank

[worn ember]

wat

[cedar spade]

in English isn't anything that isn't 1 plural?

[bleak urchin]

It's more than a week, but less than a fortnight

[cedar spade]

ie 0 days, 1 day

[worn ember]

couple means multiple weeks, this is more than a week

nothing more

dum dum proxi

[minor badge]

its not 1 therefore it is plural

[worn ember]

but it is 1

1 week and days

[wide chasm]

I.e. 1.something weeks

[minor badge]

1.3 or smth weekS

[cedar spade]

1.29 weeks

[worn ember]

wtf

english is dum

[cedar spade]

yes

it is

[worn ember]

let me eat 1.5 sandwiches

[minor badge]

and https://owo.whats-th.is/4G3wpoR.png couple allows 1.29 weeks to be couple

[cedar spade]

"one and a half sandwiches" is literally valid English

[minor badge]

the feature was added a couple of weeks ago, mr pinapl

[worn ember]

in dutch its singular

[wide chasm]

You're singular

[worn ember]

u can be my plural

[cedar spade]

I'll single your ular

[minor badge]

in norwegian it's plural apparently

[worn ember]

yuck

[steel pulsar]

if anyone has any experience with codecademy: is it Good

[bleak urchin]

The Java course is kinda meh, at least what the free version shows you

It teaches you the fundamentals, but not much else

[steel pulsar]

right

[worn ember]

i'd say jetbrains course, but from what i saw it also only really does the basic to intermediate

[quasi valley]

imagine using the first definition found on google

[steel pulsar]

i went through all the w3schools stuff on Java

[quasi valley]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/couple

two or a few things that are similar or the same, or two or a few people who are in some way connected:

[worn ember]

cam bridge

[quasi valley]

"a couple of" for < 2 makes no sense 👀

[wide chasm]

Intermediate should be a good enough starting point imo and they have a bunch of projects you can work through.

So I'd say JetBrains course if you have the money for it.

[steel pulsar]

how much is it

[wide chasm]

I think currently $25/month.

[worn ember]

i mean, this is the most challenging in jetbrains

[steel pulsar]

do i have to pay for each one

[wide chasm]

No, if you pay $25/month you get everything afaik

[bleak urchin]

Those "challenging" projects are more than what codecademy gives you

[wide chasm]

(Would recommend to do the Algorithms course alongside Java.)

[steel pulsar]

yeah seems worth 25 bucks why not

[worn ember]

i think you can get a month free?

[cedar spade]

the official commit log for /editsign ™️

[worn ember]

or something free at least

[wide chasm]

It was free until January 2021 but only if you signed up before July 1 iirc

[worn ember]

complete the course in 2 months and its free

[minor badge]

@quasi valley the SCREENSHOT shows that i used the 3rd definition

[steel pulsar]

neat

thanks

[quasi valley]

even worse

[worn ember]

who's kenny again?

[cedar spade]

I only know Knenwald Television

[marsh horizon]

Does anyone know about a plugin to change nickname/tab/tag that supports hex?

[steel pulsar]

dude they have a intelliJ integration this is great

i mean obviously sinc its the same company

[cedar spade]

Hertz: EssentialsX :p

Give people essentials.nick and essentials.nick.rgb permissions and then they can use /nick to set their nicknames, using &#rrggbb to support RGB

[spice finch]

[quasi valley]

that's md's and my job

[cedar spade]

0/10 only me and kneny are allowed to use that meme

[waxen panther]

where do i join the cult

[quasi valley]

you can't

[waxen panther]

toxic

[wild ravine]

Are you guys wizards? I got Paper installed today and the chunk gen lag is completely gone. We can fly around smoothly with Elytras now.

We were on the vanilla jar before (latest version) and it was absolutely atrocious

[waxen panther]

Yes Aikar and co are certified level 5 microsoft wizards

[spice finch]

he's lying

[vernal moth]

Can confirm that aikar is a wizard

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@quasi valley hanger whan

[cedar spade]

hanger naow

[minor badge]

thank

[mighty storm]

good afternoon

[cedar spade]

o/

[unkempt drift]

need a hanger emote on here asap

[mighty storm]

rory has walked in

[mental meadow]

Hewwo

[mighty storm]

hiii

based businesses?

[unkempt drift]

yeah, that is an interesting one

[mental meadow]

I still don't get it tho, why is that legal

Then I remember

'Murrica

[unkempt drift]

wdym why is it legal? its just a bunch of business who are registered in delaware (I think)

[mental meadow]

feudalism and capitalism at its best

[unkempt drift]

states can make their own laws regarding taxes

[mental meadow]

I mean, just registering a business somewhere in delaware doesn't sound as bad as over 285k businesses all registered at the same adress

[unkempt drift]

ok.. but still all it is is businesses looking for where to pay the least taxes (which is really a goal everyone has) and seeing that delaware is the answer

so some other company, decided that we will make a business out of registering other businesses in our building

[mental meadow]

Yeah sure, I obvs get that, that doesnt make it less shady tho? I mean it is the same in Europe, with most businesses either in Ireland or Luxembourg because of nice tax laws

For example, if you are like 100% based in California, but a registered in that building in delaware, sure you pay paxes there, but where you actually do stuff, use up ressources and infrastructure you don't

[unkempt drift]

how is it "shady" tho? I don't understand how doing something 100% legal is shady. If someone doesn't like it, then change the law. but obviously not enough people in Delaware have that opinion.

its interesting for sure, and its kinda an example of how totally WACK the us tax system is

[mental meadow]

how totally WACK the us tax system is
fixed it for you

😄

[unkempt drift]

well I disagree w/that, have no issues w/lots of how the U.S. works but there are a fair few things that are totally stupid

[sinful sorrel]

Obv not a lawyer or legal expert by any means but it’s not as simple as “I want Delaware taxes so I’ll register there”. There are still a lot of laws regarding whether your business still has to be registered in the state you do most/all of your business in and whether your subject to those taxes and regulations as well

[vernal moth]

I don't care if you legally or illegally avoid taxes

It's wrong

Pay taxes where you earn your profit

It's as simple as that

[unkempt drift]

I absolutely disagree w/that. Its the governments job to collect taxes, not for companies to offer up money.

[vernal moth]

The extend to which big companies go to fuck over the countries they make money is is insane

[unkempt drift]

the countries should just fix their systems

[quasi valley]

if you have to justify what you do with "it's not illegal", that's defacto shady

[unkempt drift]

tax them more

[vernal moth]

It's not as easy as that

And you know it

[mental meadow]

amazon has more power than most of the countries in the world how would they force them xD

[vernal moth]

Not much we can do about tax Haevens

[twin lagoon]

http://store.steampovered.com/app/45634/team_fortress_3

[vernal moth]

And all this Irish dutch double bullshit

[quasi valley]

oo

[vernal moth]

This time I actually spotted the url

[cunning raft]

@twin lagoon fuck you

[mental meadow]

I fell for it

[quasi valley]

speampovered lmao, good thing I didn't click

[twin lagoon]

it got me too aswell the first time

lmao

[unkempt drift]

"steampovered"

yeah

[mental meadow]

Just click on everything

[vernal moth]

It's a good habbit to check urls before entering

[mental meadow]

That only works if you aren't a dumbass like me tho

[vernal moth]

Anyways, back to tax fraud, thankfully the EU at least somewhat tries

[mental meadow]

But I use NoScript, so I'm usually safe

[mighty storm]

Anyways, back to tax fraud
what the heck happened here

[quasi valley]

machine maker thinks avoiding your tax laws in the places you actually operate isn't shady 👀

[mighty storm]

just be me and earn no money so you dont have to pay taxes

[unkempt drift]

I totally agree w/the statement that tax systems have so many loopholes that companies can jump through and that they should be fixed, but I don't think its wrong for companies to use/exploit (whatever you want to call it), them. The government created them when they passed tax laws

[mental meadow]

Legal != morally ok, ethically fine

[quasi valley]

abusing loopholes is abusing loopholes

[mental meadow]

When you find a loophole to kill someone it doesn't mean you should do that and that it isn't wrong

[vernal moth]

The goverment didn't create them

[bleak urchin]

You sound like someone who also defends duping exploits

[vernal moth]

Companies developed them

[unkempt drift]

wdym developed?

[minor badge]

@quasi valley uwu

[mental meadow]

Have you heard of lobbyism

[vernal moth]

These tax fraud systems (they would call it tax avoidance) are extremely complicated

They take a bunch of lawyers and ppl to setup and a bunch of time

Just read shit like this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement

[mental meadow]

One politician of the left party in germany once suggested that politicians should have the logos from the companies they get paid from on their dresses like footballplayers, and tbh that would be hilarious

[vernal moth]

You don't come up with that in a day

One politician of the left party in germany once suggested that politicians should have the logos from the companies they get paid from on their dresses like footballplayers, and tbh that would be hilarious
@mental meadow relevant https://caching-production.jetzt.de/attachments/cjy5pfeol00sz0n37ppb0yaph-bildschirmfoto-2019-07-16-um-12-55-54.full.png

[mental meadow]

Nico Semsrott is awesome

even tho his party is bad, he is funny

[vernal moth]

Fun fact, I had to work with 2 of those companies already

Why is his party bad?

[mighty storm]

it has no beer, what kinda party has no beer

ha funy joke

[mental meadow]

They often use ableism as a selling point, voted against the ban on conversation therapy, etc.
And, tbh, voting for a party that is completely satirical while people are being oppresed and stuff like that shows a certain kind of privilege that I just don't have

[cedar spade]

I love the "legal = moral" mentality that lots of people in the UK and US seem to show

[vernal moth]

They use satric as a medium to make those thing obvious, give them a stage

[cedar spade]

and by "love" I mean can't stand but whatever

[waxen panther]

fuck you mini

posting a link like that

livid

[quasi valley]

it's not really "in the us or in the uk", it's just whereever people like to have unfair advantages over others

[vernal moth]

The vote on the van if conversation therapy was just the red and green thing they did for votes that aren't important, aka where one vote doesn't make an difference Martin voted once green once red

Holding that against him and his party is dum

[neat smelt]

i love nico semsrott

he is funny

[waxen panther]

That's like literally every country MD, wouldn't say it's an us / uk thing

[worn ember]

And all this Irish dutch double bullshit
@vernal moth

[vernal moth]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement @worn ember

[worn ember]

wtf

why does that exist

[vernal moth]

Full name is double Irish with a dutch sandwich

It's a tax avoidance scam

[worn ember]

nice naming tho xD

i thought you meant the netherlands was like a tax haven or something

[vernal moth]

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/double-irish-with-a-dutch-sandwich.asp

I mean, they are, because of their off shore territories

[worn ember]

taxes are pretty high tho

i think

i dont live there

[vernal moth]

The Netherlands are the highest ranked on the tax heaven list out of all of the EU

[worn ember]

well time to move 50km

[cedar spade]

tax haven more like tax heathen amirite

[quasi valley]

[cedar spade]

[worn ember]

are shitty drawn avatars the standard now? xD

[wide chasm]

It's okay, politicians say we're not a tax heaven

[vernal moth]

https://nomoretax.eu/netherlands-tax-haven/

[quasi valley]

[cedar spade]

only for me, kash and kneny

[wide chasm]

Politicians are of course always right, therefore there's no need to change the system

[cedar spade]

and anyone else I feel like drawing 👀

[vernal moth]

That's the fun thing, no country hates to be a tax heaven

That's why we have the EU to take care

[quasi valley]

am special

[worn ember]

i wish belgium thought like that

[cedar spade]

meanwhile in the UK

[queen rose]

how hard would it be in law terms to prevent tax heavens 🤔

[vernal moth]

Extremely?

[worn ember]

here they're like: more taxes is better, yes?

[vernal moth]

Impossible?

[limber knot]

TAXES!!!!!!!!!!

[wide chasm]

It doesn't matter anything if politics doesn't do anything

[potent fossil]

guys, for a second plz stop being retarded

it is not a tax HEAVEN

[limber knot]

we must have them 4 all dem eeevvvilll corporations from which i am beholden 2

[cedar spade]

You can't just write a law to ban tax havens, it doesn't work like that

[potent fossil]

it is a tax HAVEN

[cedar spade]

Was gonna say ^

[queen rose]

what's the difference?

[potent fossil]

heaven is a religious term

haven is not

[worn ember]

kaas and koeken

[queen rose]

still a tax heaven aka in you're not paying for it

[vernal moth]

Heaven is haven in minilang you dum dums

[wide chasm]

Even if by some account you could literally pass a law saying "No tax haven" and that'd fix all problems, if the law doesn't pass it doesn't change.

[vernal moth]

You should have learned at this point

[cedar spade]

there's no Heaven Island level in Hitman 2, but there is a Haven Island

that's the difference

[mental meadow]

heathen

[mighty storm]

br

[worn ember]

i just ate and i'm hungry again, what is this madness

[mental meadow]

did you eat enough

[worn ember]

yes

[cedar spade]

enough isn't tangible therefore you can never eat enough

[worn ember]

you must be american

[cedar spade]

plot twist: am not

[quasi valley]

american synonymous to fat confirmed

[worn ember]

theres a difference between fat, and being fat in america

[vernal moth]

Being fat in Europe means being normal in the US

[cedar spade]

Everyone in the US is a hat

[worn ember]

👏 mini gets it

[void void]

damn

[vernal moth]

Like, literally, the avg weight in north America is 80kg, while it's 70kg in Europe

55% overweight here, 75 in north America

[queen rose]

55% is still a lot 👀

[void void]

and 75% is just ridiculous

[vernal moth]

It's easy to be overweight by that definition

[wide chasm]

If you're just gonna look at weight, then yeah

[worn ember]

isnt it based on BMI?

[vernal moth]

It is

[worn ember]

then thats valid imo

[limber knot]

maybe europeans r just shorter cccc:

[wide chasm]

BMI is better than weight, but still not perfect

[cedar spade]

The best metric is how many burgers can you eat before throwing up

[queen rose]

i don't eat too many

[cedar spade]

I don't think I've ever eaten more than 2 burgers in a meal

[queen rose]

haven't had one in like 3 days lol

[wide chasm]

If I don't eat anything else, 2.

[cedar spade]

And they were small patties

[vernal moth]

Can't find a metric for avg height in Europe, but America and Germany have the same avg height

I have never eaten more than 1 burger in a meal, lol

But then again, I have never in my life eat a burger at McDonald's or Burger King

(and I wouldn't call what they serve a burger either)

[wide chasm]

I've had McDonald's, not Burger King, though

[quasi valley]

same

but it's been like 2 years since the last mcdonalds visit

[cedar spade]

Honestly, if my experience is anything to go by, McDonalds is far better quality in mainland Europe than in the UK

[wide chasm]

The quality definitely varies across countries

[vernal moth]

This was the last burger I had, self made

[cedar spade]

I went on a trip to Poland last summer and had 5 McDonalds' in the space of 10 days, and I don't think I've had one in the UK since

[wide chasm]

Like, German McDonald's I've been to were generally meh

[vernal moth]

This was my last burger in a restaurant

[queen rose]

the mcdonald here sucked

[vernal moth]

That's how burgers need to look

[serene bolt]

that looks so good

[cedar spade]

actually scratch that I think it was 4 McDonalds' and 2 pizzas for lunch in Poland

[vernal moth]

That's quality

And quality is expensive

[cedar spade]

ye actual proper burgers are great but you don't want to have more than 1 in a meal

[vernal moth]

Such a burger with fries will run you at least 10 euro

At my fav place it's like 14

[wide chasm]

A burger definitely makes you feel full

[finite wave]

A burger should be nice and easy to eat + taste nice.

[cedar spade]

also the best pizza I've ever had in my life was from a place in Krakow

hi lax pls buy me a pizza thanks

[vagrant niche]

If you combine 4 burgers into 1 bun, it's only 1 burger

[solid beacon]

ello

[cedar spade]

preferably shipped from krakow to the middle of england

[vagrant niche]

🍍 🍕

[vernal moth]

I don't think I ever ate a burger with two patties

[cedar spade]

same

[solid beacon]

I've eaten one with 15

[cedar spade]

what

[wide chasm]

tf

[vagrant niche]

In n Out 4x4, yum

[solid beacon]

(and I'm not American)

[vernal moth]

Murican spotted ^^

Uuh

[quasi valley]

ah yes, "NC - USA"

[solid beacon]

But... I am in America

[vagrant niche]

4 patties into a burger

[solid beacon]

and it WAS in America

so... yeah

[potent fossil]

4x4 is 4 burgers and 4 cheese slices in between

[solid beacon]

partially guilty as charged 😉

[vagrant niche]

Delicious

[vernal moth]

The worst I ever ate was a 500g schnitzel

[potent fossil]

but in n out will do any #x# for you

provided you pay

[wide chasm]

500g my god

[potent fossil]

:P

[slim nymph]

@muted storm and so im not "discussing paper" there, Ivan is banned here so he couldnt discuss it here anyways. But that topic def had no context to paper, he just happened to link timings is all as his 'proof'

[vagrant niche]

Ye 4 is my max simp

[vernal moth]

Because some friends thought it was funny to go to that xxl restaurant

[cedar spade]

It would take 19 hours to get from Krakow to where I live

[solid beacon]

probably the biggest meat protuct IU ever ate was 52oz steak

[vernal moth]

It was absolutely disgusting

[solid beacon]

and I did that in the UK

[wide chasm]

.wa 52oz to kg

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 1.474 kg (kilograms) - https://is.gd/DVYmhG

[waxen panther]

uk is stupid

[solid beacon]

That's 1474g

[spiral garden]

i saw Ivan being discussed

[wide chasm]

That's... ridiculous

[solid beacon]

1.47Kg

[vernal moth]

That's just disgusting

[solid beacon]

yes it was

I did it once

never again

[spiral garden]

imperial measurements

ugh

but even worse is @cedar spade on pizza

[wide chasm]

If I ever go to a restaurant it's usually 200-250g

[quasi valley]

I've never actually eaten md on pizza

[finite wave]

md?

[quasi valley]

pinapl

[solid beacon]

anyways - back in a sec - and I'm come say hello properly instead of just barging in on food topics 😉

[quasi valley]

[wide chasm]

I ate it, it was disgusting, never ate it again

[solid beacon]

Anyways - general paper question. Where are the typical bottlenexk

CPU? memory? latency?

[waxen panther]

yes

[olive marlin]

Agree.

[cedar spade]

latency

[solid beacon]

latency was where I pegged it from a brief review

[cedar spade]

You're gonna have to be more specific

disk latency? network latency?

latency between RAM and CPU?

||(the last one is a joke btw)||

[neat smelt]

there is a latency between ram and cpu

[solid beacon]

Well, I assume that minecraft is event driven like most other gaming servers

[potent fossil]

he said its a fucking joke

further explanation NOT required

(that was to oberfail, who feels the need to be captain obvious every fucking day)

[wide chasm]

starts 2 hour lecture

[cedar spade]

ehhhh, that's very broad

[wide chasm]

Minecraft has a general tick loop, so a lot of stuff isn't event driven unless you consider a tick an event.

[solid beacon]

in almost every server I run I get "X took Y milliseconds" type warnings

[limber knot]

life is a tick loop

[solid beacon]

so I'm starting to think its me ;)

[worn ember]

i bet ur response time is high Robo

[solid beacon]

yeah - I've written gaming server engines before so I'm not unfamilar with the tradeoffs

[void void]

Hello

I am looking for a plugin to log in to the paper server

[quasi valley]

wat

[worn ember]

[waxen panther]

ah yes

[spice finch]

AuthMe Reloaded

[waxen panther]

cracked™️

[cedar spade]

Did you mean: EssentialsX

[void void]

1.16?

[worn ember]

1.8

[waxen panther]

1.17?

[void void]

AuthMe Reloaded this work on 1.16

[cedar spade]

1.161.0

[quasi valley]

I know something even better than a plugin; logging into your premium account

[potent fossil]

we dont do cracked servers here

go away

[cedar spade]

https://offlinemo.de

[potent fossil]

can we get that as a command

[wide chasm]

That video is the best thing to ever grace this community

[neat smelt]

please

[dusk drift]

That fucking video

[neat smelt]

that video is amazing :D

[waxen panther]

[cedar spade]

I appreciate how one of the screenshots dates from my birthday

tfw you a message you posted

couldn't be me

[wide chasm]

#paper-help

[void void]

is about paper?

[worn ember]

its about books

[mighty storm]

oh god oh fuck what the hell

[finite wave]

Oh, you got an onlyfans?

[spice finch]

[finite wave]

Where do we subscribe

[spice finch]

Link us your only fans

[mighty storm]

sure it's here https://github.com/sponsors/chew

[spice finch]

Scam

Not only fans but some github

[finite wave]

Is that like patreon but on github?

[worn ember]

confirm it

[spice finch]

proxi has that too i guess

idk how to do that but im curious

[neat smelt]

will i get cat pictures when i pay?

[mighty storm]

yes

[spice finch]

[minor badge]

i do not have gh sponsors, cdfn

i sponsor city, but havent registered myself for it

[worn ember]

proxi has an only fans?

[minor badge]

no

[quasi valley]

yes but only with birb images

[golden gust]

all proxi brings is horror and tragedy to the world

[spice finch]

sorry this misslead me

[golden gust]

prove me wrong

sips tea

[minor badge]

i give city money ;w;

[spice finch]

it means taht you're sponsoring someone prob 😄

yeah sorry

[mighty storm]

i cant prove you wrong, that's on my $5 tier

[minor badge]

it does, cdfn

[finite wave]

Did you fix up that tardis plugin?

[mighty storm]

i fixed a build once

[potent fossil]

MineAcademy shill in Spigot

[mighty storm]

right now im going through my code and commenting it

[potent fossil]

😭

It never stops

[finite wave]

Too bad minecraft doesn't have small things u can push

[mighty storm]

i contributed to the wiki a lot

[limber knot]

ur code not gud enuf 2 self document??

[quasi valley]

ever more the reason to ping mini everyday @potent fossil

[finite wave]

I only ever document shit if it is super obscure

[mighty storm]

I'm really just adding a license but I need to be more than just "add license"

[potent fossil]

whatever, at this point as long as his advertisements arent fucking everywhere then fuck it

stupid kids gonna get mommy to buy it regardless

[mighty storm]

on my $10/mo tier ill make you a plugin (limited to 200 lines)

[neat smelt]

200 lines a day