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haha
.byof
Template for building your own fork of Paper - based on Aikar's fork - https://github.com/electronicboy/byof
I'll update it one day
I stopped using cinnamon like 2 days ago
Gnome gang 
There's not enough changes to call it fork haha
I'm...mostly fine with it
just want to try out how it works
miss some things
also hello nossr
well i was using budgie
but now my gnome system feels similar to macos which is nice
and they should just rename that to bummer
so I can get used to this
gnome 3?
yeah
hmm
its been a really long time since i tried that
ima throw it on here and check it out

though putting the window close, minimize, maximize buttons on the left breaks shit which is annoying
eh i got used to it quickly
I just did a base gnome install with dash to dock with very little configuration + topicons to add back icons cause like, damn that's literally essential wtf gnome
then I've kept nemo as my file manager so that fixes that issue too (issue being gnome's file manager is trash)
Plz
i just use parrotsec, it's setup exactly how i like it
I just did a base gnome install with dash to dock with very little configuration + topicons to add back icons cause like, damn that's literally essential wtf gnome
@ancient bolt top icons?
but the biggest benefit of using gnome over cinnamon for me is everything is much smoother, animations and window management isn't choppy anymore, and stuff like recording / casting my screen doesn't flicker anymore
cinnamon is nice but their core stuff is finicky
QOL is nice
Gnome 3 has been getting more stylish every update
nick you're as irrelevant as songoda
you can just log out and switch the desktop environment
@stiff yarrow yeah gnome removed application icons from their top bar...gnome is just removing shit left and right
Nick I don’t even know who you are
is the proper way to get it back ^
literally no one knows who nick is
lmao
That seems neat I’ll try it out
hmm, looks nice
Xorg doesn't work on the proprietary nvidia driver so I'm unfortunately stuck on that for a while at least
but hopefully soon I can use wayland
Nvidia doesn’t work in general on wayland
xorg should work fine on the proprietary nvidia driver
sorry for the pain that you recives but how can i slow world generation to take less performance impact on cpu? Am I able it by lowering chunk-tasks-per-tick: 1000 ?
I bought an amd gpu just to wayland 
amd gpus are best
Currently in fedora because I accidentally break arch all the time customizing it and I never make backup images because I don’t ever learn my lesson
i came back to debian cos it just works™️
hmm yea gnome 3 is nice, but i hate the new settings
and i cant stop the hot corner?
r u kiddin me
.g gnome extensions hot corner
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what the fuck :^)
ew gnome
@twin lagoon DM?
y
I like the hot corner 
feel free to add
Found my shaders
don't download your stuff from shady minecraft sites
which is... shady
that's shady
._:
if it's not curseforge (or github) it's automatically shady in my eyes
._O
He is the definition of shady himself it’s ok lol he runs big offline server /s
also true
Also yeah that site is shady
9minecraft is crap, get it from the source, they just copy peoples stuff and put a billion aids in front of it
I meant ads, but aids works
gnome 3 is epic
(DiscordBot) https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/ -- Dash to Dock - GNOME Shell Extensions: "This extension moves the dash out of the overview transforming it in a dock for an easier launching of applications and a faster switching between..."
was using plank but ill try that
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for windows like taskbar
.eta
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

.eta still works
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
of course it still works but now there's no reason to use it
Is there a way to disable nether fog without optifine?
pOTATO
I've seen on Aikar's live that IntellIJ doesn't find some classes, same happens to me. Is there any explanation for it?
Doesn't find meaning?
I mean in paper source
you mean sources or classes?
pretty sure that's covered in the contrib guide
sources that haven't yet been touched by the patch process have to be manually imported in the mcdev scripts
yea that's covered
There is also the ./paper m command to throw all the untouched files into work/mc/ver/src or something like that, you can add that as a sources root in IJ
there can be times when intellij isn't fully indexed and just can't find a file that does exist
god that dock @twin lagoon thank u
but that's typically in the middle of failed patch applies
this is beautiful
dash to dock is best
also get topicons redux
or whatever the latest topicons is
and appindicator support
it's hilarious how much of this stuff is essential system UI, but gnome has just removed it because "it's hard"
and now extensions have to add this shit back in
gnome has some questionable design choices
from what I've read they've been removing a lot of this stuff because the code that implemented it was a dumpster fire
and they decided from a maintainability perspective just chucking it and letting extensions handle it was the best option
accurate
and maybe, maybe they'll look into re-adding support natively in a better way
default theme is a bit yikes too
way too big title bars
though it does look nice other than that
but the extensions cover it so well it's probably not gonna happen
I use OSX-Arc-Shadow theme, looks fantastic
and blue paper icons
it's somewhat annoying that it's basically a literally useless DE on the desktop unless you start stuffing it with addons
the above ^ is the same reason they removed transparency in the gnome terminal
I have to install a gnome-terminal-transparency just to get that back 
is the best theme imo
manjaro meme
my old desktop
ye before their massive security derp
then I just went back to arch lol
also back when we had datapacket sponsorship LOL
wait, i can change the gnome 3 theme?
I've seen on Aikar's live that IntellIJ doesn't find some classes, same happens to me. Is there any explanation for it?
that's what I was talking about. I didn't understand contributing.md or that's not covered
Are you importing an incorrect version?
@potent fossil yes
either you opened the wrong think or IJ needs to reindex
install gnome tweaks
head into extensions
enable User themes
restart tweaks, go to the appearance tab / first tab
you can configure Shell themes from there
it is nms wiz

maybe I dont get you
woot
pretty new in this topic
oh god yes
see you have taste because we use the same colour scheme
hide discord 🤔
so is it just me or is sys lying regarding the 30% off? can't see a single offer where that is true, lol
the entire point of traefik is to have the labels 
if you create a simple config you don't have to have 60 labels per container
lmao
while still retaining the ability to add an app and automatically proxying it
If I wanted to do that might as well use nginx lol
no you literally set some dead simple default shit in traefik's config
the entire point is to have configuration live along side container config
it works both ways
but having a simple config file to define defaults makes it nicer tbh
cdfn, i mean playerjoinevent isn't nms. if you're not finding bukkit classes something is wrong with your setup that has nothing to do with importing mcdev.
phoenix616, "This special offer gives you 25% off the price of a So you Start E3-SAT-1-32, E5-SAT-2-64, GAME-1, E5-SAT-1-64, E5-SSD-2-64, GAME-2, GAME-3, E3-SSD-1-32, E5-SSD-1-64 and E3-SAT-1-16 Dedicated Server."
well they say 30%
E3-SSD-2-32 and E3-SAT-2-32 are 30%
and no, these aren't even 25% off
50.41€ -> 41.64€ are not 30%
thats what the page says 🤷
cdfn, i mean playerjoinevent isn't nms. if you're not finding bukkit classes something is wrong with your setup that has nothing to do with importing mcdev.
Maybe wrong scope? I opened only PaperSpigot-Server, should I open Paper instead maybe? I'll try
yea, either way works, but my ultimate goal for my home stack is to have nothing but the stack files themselves and an environment file
oh boy
uhoh 1.8
they fucked up on their display
hence I try to keep as much as possible in labels
they're indeed 30% off here
fair enough
they display the price without VAT for their old price, but the price with VAT for the new one
that's what I'll need patches for, also I had it already built so 
yes, you need to open the paper project itself
might get myself one tho, is a big upgrade from my machine with hetz
oh boy, that spiral
you start doing that Proxi you end up with 23 boxes half of which you don't even remember you have
hey noo this is a cheaper machine with better specs than the one i have
only 250mbps bandwidth tho :/
why doesn't the idea cli helper fork 
gonna wait until tomorrow to see if they forward the German VAT reduction xD
also why am I only seeing now that they offer that, it seems like they started on June 18th Oo
Opened Paper instead of Paper-Server and it worked
all classes are detected now
@potent fossil you play rimworld right? have you tried the royal dlc?
@spare venture I am not a rimmer
What
I bought ants
Ok
just go outside and get your own ants for free smh
no
@smoky python https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZUZ-rln-qI
👀
what is that
No
ants > thermites
I am good for now
.eta
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
Petition to change goblins to ants
I once was fed to the goblins
me too
oh no
i just didnt ask 👀
Does anyone know why the bungeecord-api version now suddenly contains a revision number (R0.1) in 1.16? This wasn't the case for 1.15.
md_5 logic i guess
I agree with the duck
Is anything relevant missing from this list: https://gist.github.com/Razva/e7304fb80a210639107a35838dee2832 ?
spitgot
ik thats why I said Spigot was missing lol
spitgot
@void void corrected, thanks
thats like putting Bukkit instead of CraftBukkit or w/e
glances at bstats
Fabric = mods right?
Anyone aware of a way I can include dynmap regions into the TAB List plugin?
Like in what Area you are currently in?
bStats is open source, so yes
added Fabric, corrected Spigot 🙂
Forever alone https://i.imgur.com/lqhyt7D.png
im waitin
moved SpongeForge from Mods to Plugins + Mods
Are these just actively maintained versions?
also is this Java only?
you could arguably add Protocol translators and put Geyser
interesting, adding now
I mean there's also forks of CB like Project Poseidon which is a fork of CB beta 1.7.3
refresh please
@terse marsh Check yives his website, there you can find most of the server software https://yivesmirror.com/, if you click on download
also it's Bedrock -> Java
corrected
sweet
also I think there's PocketMine
idk how up to date it is
oh yeah, proxies
hmmm...where should I put Glowstone...
I beleive it's plugins too?
Yeah
I guess...because it's not "vanilla"
Or "Official"
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thats just Vanilla with extra steps
I was just about to buy that game
refresh please
there's also Cuberite
Glowstone mentioned?, nvm it was.
And what is that other server software called that Gianluca uses for that survival server if I am not wrong?
Tuinity
Yes that one
is Cuberite still maintaned?
if you want a list of maintained & relevant ones you shouldn't add cuberite & glowstone
nor craftbukkit
glowstone is still maintained?
just look for yourself
relevant
seems like
COULD YOU MAKE YOUR GITHUB DARK PLEASE
dark mode all the things
sending random screen of commits won't give you anything
thats what i do lol
actually look at commit history, what version it's stuck at, and a progress issue
Do turtles breed by themselfs or is that a thing that can be disabled?
U murder
Jesus...
@spice finch github doesnt have native dark, dont really have a choice...
use a dark mode plugin
and i aint paying $5 for dark reader
Stop playing god Eric. Leave turtles alone.
yeah dark reader
So there is nothing server side to disable auto turtle breeding?
it's free
uh, why would you pay?
unless you can get me a free version for safari :p
save the environment!!
smh safari
@nocturne summit There probably is
its out
is spartan better than aac?
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I like how they bothered to modernize the github UI but still didn't add a dark mode, like wtf
use aac
I like how everything for apple is paid
that requires Stylus which is Chromium/Firefox only
spartan looks good tho
just use firefox
wtf are you using that's not chromium or firefox 🤔
Implying I am using a bad browser?
I used to have stylus but for some reason the dark version I used (2 years ago) didn't work
IE is dead for Windows greater than 8 prob
And that other styling addon that stole data
there's __ M I C R O S O F T E D G E__
edge is pretty decent
Edge is chromium now
ye
indeed
it's like a worse skinned chrome
still, microsoft 
doesn't matter if I'm selling myself out for Microsoft or Google
but I prefer to be a Google sellout
Tbh, is it me or does all applications in the app store of windows feel wrong & looks wrong?

Is there a link that describes waterfall or just the downloads
the windows store is just ugly
I use some of MS Store apps, Spotify, Termius and some stuff
windows is just ugly
if it's available from MS Store i simply download it from there
That time I opened the ubuntu software store
i avoided the ms store at all costs
I felt like I was in heaven
really slow
I like how it says internet speed in Mb and not MB, it makes me feel better...
All the apps I needed where there with a nice looking toolbar and fast
did a new thing for minimessage, now supports component placeholders https://i.imgur.com/kWD7124.png
nice
sexey
so you can insert the sender of a chat message using his display name component for example
wow, tests for minecraft?
so his rank is inherited and stuff
minimessage updates 
lmao
tux's is his own yes
Velocity good stuff
wow, tests for minecraft?
@spice finch sure, coverage > 80% https://i.imgur.com/fyGoJl2.png
thanks for arrows 
I cant be arsed to write a plugin to test this, lol
yeah
WG has shitloads of tests for regions too
yeah, this is 100% independent from MC
what versions does it support?
ah like Travertine
WE has a bunch of essentially math tests
(talking about my lib olivia)
basically tests are easy as long as you dont have to interface with MC for them
Does someone know any plugin with good "game tests"? I mean mocked ingame behaviour
Curious how it works
you can't mock ingame behaviour without being ingame lol
uh
WE has math tests?! Omg wiz this isn't school. Stop making me take tests!
there is mockbukkit
which does a good job at letting you test bukkit plugins
it basically implemented parts of the bukkit api
yes mule pls solve these thousand randomly generated vector checks so we can compare your results with our code
I'll have to learn tests some day, it's good to know how to write them properly
just write event-driven code, that's a lot easier to test ;)
but... writing tests for REST API seems to be easier than writing tests for minecraft
Fuck
Just fill in random results and then tell them their code is wrong
Clearly the human brain is superior over such a dumb computer
It's the server's fault
of course it is cdfn, because you control whatever rest endpoint you have and don't have to start an mc server, having to connect your own mc client to in the worst case 
is there a plugin which allows or has a way to spawn a mob e.g wolf with the name of the person that spawned it? i tried mcstacker that sells a wolf spawn egg and have the wolf spawn with the player name but %player% etc of the placeholders dont work... please @ me if you know
https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_server_software alright, actually added some stuff here
Opensource contributors, respect them alot 🙂
I didnt get everything from the gist someone made, but now there's stuff there.
bro it's a wiki
formally and formerly are way different
there
olivia~~: CraftBukkit is dead
also why use a green background for an outdated version?
the descriptions are all a bit eh
tbh it wouldn't be too wrong to list CraftBukkit with the Bukkit team as developers and their last release as the main version
Spigot has never mainly developed CB for distribution
(or at least list the last time BuildTools actually built CB lol)
So paper is developer by papermc
and spigot is developer by spigotmc
So craftbukkit is developer by craftbukkitmc?
yes
Before there used to be nothing below the first line, I just wrote it up quickly
to match the bedrock one
ill mess around with it, there's no CB for 1.16 right?
I mean you can get the spigot one
Well there's Spigot CB and DMCA'd CraftBukkit
Cheatbreaker?
Spigot CB is just a continuation of DMCA'd CB.
@vernal moth I remember someone talking about this in VC the other day but I don't remember if it was in regards to MiniMessage, but any thoughts on adding backwards compat like this lib: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/hexchat.80672/ ?
Ah
does it serialize to json or adventure or smth?
Spigot's BuildTools just doesn't build craftbukkit anymore as the target
but like, that resource has 31 downloads, I don't really care, lol
and of course Spigot's development goal isn't cb, it's spigot lol
you can call Spigots CB "SpigotUnsupported" lol
nono, I mean, that lib has a backwards compat mode where if you use rgb and it's sent to a <1.16 client it converts it to closest minecraft color
ooh totally
adventure has that, so minimessage has that too
it will down convert hex to its nearest named color
ah
does it do auto conversion?
yes
it even hooks into viaversion
eww
so you can have a 1.15 sever and send hex messages to 1.16 clients, but downconvert for vanilla clients
yeah I wond bother with that, lol. that wouls require me actually adding methods to send messages xD
not worth the effort trying to use it in 1.15 lol
detection if rgb support is available on the server/proxy is the most I'll do
plugins can do the rest e.g. in my SLP fork I just check the ping version and convert depending on that
well, adventure has separate platform packages where all that is hidden away
it will also prefer paper api over spigot iirc
and falls back to reflection for CB
what does paper do for components? 
not much yet
see my tracking issue, bukkit almost nowhere exposes components
only for chat really
how does I merge a branch back into master without merge commit?
rebase?
based rebase?
yeah but what args?
git rebase master feature/adventure
Current branch feature/adventure is up to date.
just git rebase branch to rebase your current to the given branch
I just inverted the args
Rebase ❤️
I love people that merge the upstream branch for every commit it receives in a pr
for the little/simple prs that is
What is Waterfall?
A fork of bungeecord
a stream of watter rapidly falling down a cliff
thx for definition
you mean water
I swear that meme was like 2015/16 xD

PowerGPU claims that the new update of windows has some goods in for gamers
dont really care tbh, i already run most games i care about well xD
requires the latest nvidia driver btw, needs the latest WDDM support
enjoy your AMD graphics drivers
but you're also ded
for you that would be pep
where is the minecraft map color palette stored?
I need it for pixel art on Minecraft maps
minecraft wiki isn't up to date for 1.16
uhm, it is
1.16 stuff should be there
if not it's on the 1.16 changelog
well that is up to date
I'm trying to make a palette for aseprite
Climbing quickly.
so close
how would you check/update that
THAT'S what I'm curious about
I want to be able to datamine it
We just went up to 42
The data for Java snapshots is current as of 20w19a.
where are the base colors
in that same article
already there
kek
let's pretend we didn't have the wiki
https://i.imgur.com/36dK0qR.png are new
I want to be able to datamine it and put it into a color palette with Python so it can be constantly updated with each snapshot
then get it from the wiki from their base colors
that's all you need, it's simple maths to get the 4 shades of each base color
lol just ignore his question
ya
thanks I guess then I'll do that ._.
yea, am pretty happy with it
cant believe how bad budgie is in comparison to gnome 3 after properly modifying it https://i.imgur.com/XPsrptV.jpg
yeah but it doesn't answer his question lmao
spacey
u got gnomed
he's not entitled to be handheld through shit
if you have a problem with that, answer the question yourself zaxarner
idk who thats about but i agree
otherwise just mind your own business
you're right, I just want a starting off point that's all
didn't say he was. but maybe he's trying to learn something?
Waterfall is not updated for the latest version of Minecraft.
wiki is a starting point
I just want to know where to research
not like everyone knows about base colors lol
okay, that's a good answer then, thank you
telling other people off because you dont like their answer to someone else's question smh
kinda random thing xD
just decompile and grep it duh
oh oh its in the ChatColor Enum 
is it
"enum"
oh wait a second
it's in chatcolor2 actually
i misread that as material
Hmmm
all the colors are in there :^)
^
all map colors are actually in chatcolor2
can we bully mojang for CYMK colors now? So the apple fanboys can stop being triggered about shitty rgb colors
kangarko denies PaperMC Discord's attitude is too vanilla
it's MaterialColor with mojang mappings btw, you're lucky I literally had to go through all the hacky map data stuff today lol
Fuck rgb & CYMK, I just want every single color
hello, i saw that skullmeta in paper has gameprofile api which allows you to set the custom gameprofile for the skull. how can i create a new gameprofile object using that api?
Bukkit.createProfile or something
thanks
kenny that's really useful, I'll look there, thank you so much.
someone know how to change startup parameters when you got a pterodactyl server?
oops
Question: Does Paper work with VanillaTweaks?
drama needs api :C
kenny is that in client or server?
or would that be in both? I'm not very familiar with minecraft's source
If there is an online project developer it would be nice if someone of them can explain me what this do chunk-tasks-per-tick: 1000 Because I can't find it on the internet.. 🙂
best bet is to apply mappings to the client, since it is both server and client code
shame on you mini smfh
the bukkit api died in 2014

can confirm
it was pretty nice back then
hmm, vivaldi is quite nice
Agree
Hey guys, you have any recommendation for a good anti afk plugin ? I was thinking about something likle a captcha comes after X hours
It's fine, they'll be aware of the system before joining anyway @quasi valley 😛
what kind of food should i order
hmm
on https://papermc.io/downloads, what does "Updated Upstream (Bukkit/CraftBukkit/Spigot)" mean? does it upgrade papermc to a higher version of spigot or something?
oh yeah uh you gotta use enigma 14. something, new is bork
Had to make local changes to make the newest work
@stuck vault exactly. Spigot did some changes, and paper pulled them in
0.14?
ohh ok, thanks
there are no prebuilt jars for 0.14
time to build
and there are no tags past 0.11 
would 0.17 work or is that also bork
I think everything since .15 is bork lol
To tell you how bork it’s been; I pr’d a fix to the cli decompile command, which was broken and untouched for almost half a year 
Yeah they are, I have an open issue
who made it bork? git blame time?
the decompilers fail for some of the classes, but at some point they removed exception handling there and also don’t have any fallback in place
would 0.11 work
fork this I'm just gonna pull from the wiki
actually I just need that one class
I'll just get it myself
remap it myself lol
this file is 73 thousand lines
ahah, I've found it
i'm currently using enigma 0.16
i just changed something so that index failures or smthin didn't crash the whole thing
In case ppl here care https://twitter.com/xMiniDiggerx/status/1278076747955810305?s=19
MiniMessage is now part of the Kyori organization! https://t.co/1ra8xkXiK7
With the move, the project has been refactored into a more convenient api, added support for hex colors, rainbows and gradients and a new placeholder system, that allows components.

sweet
If you don't care, at least you get to see a nice kitty pic
🤢
Will be hardcore utilizing this when 4.0 comes out.
Der, more kitten
the RGB gradients are one of my favorite things in minimessage, it just looks so good
oof yeah no kidding
there are enough websites to generate rainbows ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the difficult thing is to get it looking right in legacy colors. how do you solve that one?
it needs improvement - it's ok but it's a bit too likely to choose greys
blame rgb
yeah, you want to compare the perceived luminosity
^^
ya that's been on my list to do but gotta do math for that
but I was talking about making legacy rainbows look good too :P
and there are lots of other things that have needed doing
A simple equation to determine the approximative "distance" between two colours.
If legacy rainbows don't look good, I just blame the conversion code 😂
yeah, it's a "solved" problem
here's WE's :^) https://github.com/EngineHub/WorldEdit/blob/master/contrib/craftscripts/draw.js#L104
ya that's the exact page I used for adventures algorithm wiz
well I hand adjusted the rainbow in my MOTD to look good with legacy and RGB at the same time ;D
WE uses crappy wool colors tho
at least color codes have actual rgb values you can match
but, uh, MineDown currently just uses the rgb channel distance for conversion because I don't really care too much about legacy support lol
But like, seeing how many servers are updating, I don't really think about legacy too much
If you want nice colors, just update your client
And it's still readable to olders, so it's fine
I mean adventure supports all the way back to 1.7.10
I really only addid it because Proximyst mentioned it and I wanted to have a rainbow MOTD xD
ya 3.x does - I fixed the cb adapter in 3.0.5
(and when I finish the Minedown adventure/text stuff I just fall back to that legacy ¯_(ツ)_/¯)
just use 4 ;P
Yeah it's breaking
3.x might support 1.7 as well - there are references to it in the code
and yall use components in the api ya?
though you relocate 3.x so it's already not compatible with other copies of the lib
right, but our exposed api can't change without breaking
ya
i.e. if WE switched to adventure, WG would break
because WG expects WE to expose 3.x-relocated
it's a funky design
but there's no way around it with how bad the bukkit dep situation is
i mean, one of the reasons WE always rolled its own shit for 10 years
I mean, hopefully this is the last major breaking change in a long time
^
Since I expect many ppl to adopt it now, because how many ppl want to use hex stuff now and how shitty bungees impl is
yea i mean we're 1.13+ already anyway
but there's no way around it with how bad the bukkit dep situation is
imagine
it's so sad
no one wants to install dependency plugins ;-;
and hopefully the 1.14/1.15 crowd updates to 1.16 quick
couldn't care less about 1.8 and 1.12 crowds
nobody should have to manually install dependency plugins anyways
package managers exist they're not a new concept
yeah but there is none for Bukkit
i mean, sorta
the real issue is that you can't even leverage jigsaw at runtime cuz everyone is on 8 still
so everyone has to relocate everything anyway
also required downloads for basic function is a big nono for me
i'd draw the line at downloading optional libs for certain configurations
eg special database adapters
I mean you have to download the plugin in the first place
yea but i mean the plugin should just work as is
then you can't download dependencies at runtime
the idea of needing to download 20 libs at first startup is 🤢
isn't not-relocating solved with the paper class loader patch though?
that just makes things worse
paper class loader doesn't help not paper
1.13 is down to 2.5% at least, 1.14 is still at 10% tho .-.
wrt WE stats, so 1.13+ only
imagine PRing to not paper
already 25% on 1.16 tho, should easily overtake the 1.15 crowd in the next month
phoenix u twat
your prs hit spigot regularly
yes, that's my point
why would you stay on 1.14, does it have any reasons to stay
yea no idea
just PR it to spigot if you want the feature everywhere
it's technically forge lts
lol I haven't prd anything since bukkit-bleeding
not really
figures
someone tested 1.16.1 #27?
eyes
no, no builds are tested
@pulsar wigeon
I could test it by myslef but if someone already stress tested it, it would be obsolete to do
don't ping me
yea, unfortunately as long as modpacks target 1.7.10/1.12.2 there's little reason to develop for 1.14
optifine test builds for 1.15 have been out for ages, lol
optifine isn't an example of a good mod
what about the release builds
god, if I had even more time and more client-modding experience + an alcohol problem I would just rewrite optifine as an open source fabric mod, lol
mcpatcher is still open source
an alcohol problem
musthave for writing mods

it would be nice to have an open-source optifine replacement
that's basically the hope phoenix lol
and that's where most of the non-shader pretty parts of optifine came from
I can't deal with client bull shit without drinking, lol
I guess it's better now that we have mappings 
it's not maintained, but the repo exists
oic
TehBrian: why?
it's actually a super neat system - - since it does patches onto an obfuscated jar
PaperMC: Client Edition
i mean, not happening
fabric performance mods already exist ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ya but optifine doesn't give performance
that depends on the machine I guess
it's like opposite ends of the spectrum
it's a shaders mod
half the people with bad pcs and half with too good pcs
you can go from 15fps to playable with ~30 on bad machines with optifine
idk i just hear constantly that ppl can't play new versions without optifine cuz their pcs suck
I think there is placebo involved
I mean if you want a bit of clienty api, adventure can work on client players in the fabric adapter lol
Yeah, when I had a potato long ago OptiFine was amazing
these days sodium helps quite a bit
did not bother with client mods back then i just set my render distance to 2

I get maybe 120 frames without optfine and 190 with, I mostly like little tweaks like cloud height editing
is someone maintaining sodium etc?
yeah, all of the twearks optifine has are nice and probable the main reason why people use it nowadays on their gaming PCs
came for the performance (when they had a shit PC), stayed for the features (zoom, shaders, capes)
capes 👀
forgot the name, let's say you have an RGB color 0 100 200, and you were just talking about ONE of those numbers, say, 200
what would that be called?
is it component?
Yep
phoenix616 the palette is so you can draw in other programs and put those drawings into Minecraft on maps without the colors being changed
It would be the blue component
alright that's what I kinda thought but I wasn't sure, thank you.
I just use dithering ¯_(ツ)_/¯
jelly is still committing things to sodium - - but I don't think she has a new maintainer yet
what do you mean by that, phoenix?
creating new colors by using multiple (4) pixels that average that color
think old comic book printing
oh yeah well you can do that still
but it's just that when you export your image you made in aseprite or gimp or whatever into Minecraft then the pixels get converted to the nearest color on the palette
to avoid that you just use the colors on the palette ;p
I guess you can dither it in gimp directly
still a bit more annoying as you have to re-do all images each minecraft update
that's why I opted for just doing it automatically in a plugin and store the real, full color images
DitherLib works quite well
Also is there any way to simplify this?
for component in base_color:
component = int(component)
I tried for int(component) in base_color: but that doesn't work.
You can map it or use comprehension.
for component in (int(c) for c in base_color):
Is it more readable - that's questionable.
Also functional version:
for component in map(int, base_color) :
TIL that calc(100vw - 200px) actually works in CSS now Oo
bad practice though
¯_(ツ)_/¯ lets me center stuff fast
learn flexbox 
I know that that's a think but I tried that first and it didn't work instantly and this does so idc lol
I'm the only one who's ever going to see this (probably)
then you can just do
.center-container {
display: flex;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}
.centered-component {
margin: auto;
}
what if I have <outer><div></div><div></div></outer> and want the inner ones aligned as columns
tried that with flex and it fucked up everything, lol
now I just position it relative with inline-boxes and it just works
like aligned in a row?
no, they should all be veritcal columns
like | | |
I mean I know I can do that with margin: auto and wrapping the outer one into another container
but that requires another outer container, lol
theoretically, if I forked Paper, and I changed translateAlternateColorCodes to translate &#rrggbb instead of &x&r&r&g&g&b&b then would all plugins that use translateAlternateColorCodes support &#rrggbb?
.center-container {
display: flex;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
justify-content: space-between;
}
.centered-component {
height: 100%;
}
Not entirely sure on what you mean though
don't worry, my way works just fine :)
aight, flexbox vey nice though
TehBrian: you would have to translate &#rrggbb to §x§r§r§g§g§b§b
hello everyone 😄
hello
how are you?
phoenix616: that's a cost worth paying
so i want to delete all overworld chunks outside a certain area around spawn so they can regen with the new stuff, any ideas on how i can do that?
Someone tried to send me a scam credit report warning from an email @ayylmao.space
ah that is perfect thank you
wow thats actually amazing tysm
Deleting chunks and regions isn't a very hard problem
I mean, you'd have to work at it to make it slow
@hushed pebble yes, if you zoom out far enough it just deletes entire regions instead of chunks lol
I'd be more worried about the perf of its top down rendering of your world than about the deleting part 😛
you should see my dynmap 🙄
and if you are really worried about that just use the headless mode lol
I was wondering for performances
It doesn't even need to actually delete the chunk data, does it? Can't it just mark the sections in the region file as unused?
Even if it does delete the actual data it should go as fast as you can write to your drive but it probably doesn't need to so it'll just be updating a few indices and deleting whole region files where it can (which is basically free, the OS also just marks the space as empty and doesn't actually delete)
doing good thanks for asking!
yea you can just write to the region header
the regionfile handling in MC will "reclaim" unused space
ie it will just write new chunks to the unused blocks later
you can do what worldedit does
and not give a fuck about regionfiles currently in use by the server
It needs to receive several
The packet that actually makes the screen go away is the teleport one (aka player position and look)
But I believe you need to send them 9 chunks in a 3x3 centered on them as well or the client either refuses all inputs or doesn't leave that screen
the wiki used to explain all this...
It was a part of the documented login process, it took you through all the packets to/from and what order were needed to get the client in game
Yeah but at the end it just says "switches to Play" and good luck, I guess
It used to go all the way up to client drawing blocks and letting you walk around
Some of it is on https://wiki.vg/Protocol_FAQ
Looks like you need 49 chunks and more than just the chunks and that one teleport packet
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