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spice finch
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didnt see it before

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thank you very much

void void
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haha

potent fossil
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damn why did i ever stop using cinnamon

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truly god's preferred DE

golden gust
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.byof

limber knotBOT
golden gust
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I'll update it one day

ancient bolt
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I stopped using cinnamon like 2 days ago

stiff yarrow
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Gnome gang nossrptsd

spice finch
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There's not enough changes to call it fork haha

ancient bolt
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I'm...mostly fine with it

spice finch
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just want to try out how it works

ancient bolt
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miss some things

mighty storm
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also hello nossr

potent fossil
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well i was using budgie

ancient bolt
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but now my gnome system feels similar to macos which is nice

potent fossil
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and they should just rename that to bummer

ancient bolt
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so I can get used to this

potent fossil
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gnome 3?

ancient bolt
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yeah

mighty storm
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ayy hi demonwav swift

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wait wrong swift

potent fossil
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hmm

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its been a really long time since i tried that

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ima throw it on here and check it out

mighty storm
ancient bolt
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though putting the window close, minimize, maximize buttons on the left breaks shit which is annoying

void void
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eh i got used to it quickly

ancient bolt
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I just did a base gnome install with dash to dock with very little configuration + topicons to add back icons cause like, damn that's literally essential wtf gnome

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then I've kept nemo as my file manager so that fixes that issue too (issue being gnome's file manager is trash)

smoky python
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Plz

void void
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i just use parrotsec, it's setup exactly how i like it

stiff yarrow
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I just did a base gnome install with dash to dock with very little configuration + topicons to add back icons cause like, damn that's literally essential wtf gnome
@ancient bolt top icons?

ancient bolt
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but the biggest benefit of using gnome over cinnamon for me is everything is much smoother, animations and window management isn't choppy anymore, and stuff like recording / casting my screen doesn't flicker anymore

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cinnamon is nice but their core stuff is finicky

potent fossil
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QOL is nice

stiff yarrow
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Gnome 3 has been getting more stylish every update

potent fossil
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brb killing X and opening gnome 3

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gonna check dis out

smoky python
twin lagoon
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nick you're as irrelevant as songoda

void void
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you can just log out and switch the desktop environment

smoky python
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WHAT

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You are irrelevant

ancient bolt
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@stiff yarrow yeah gnome removed application icons from their top bar...gnome is just removing shit left and right

stiff yarrow
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Nick I don’t even know who you are

ancient bolt
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is the proper way to get it back ^

pulsar wigeon
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literally no one knows who nick is

twin lagoon
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lmao

stiff yarrow
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That seems neat I’ll try it out

potent fossil
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hmm, looks nice

ancient bolt
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Xorg doesn't work on the proprietary nvidia driver so I'm unfortunately stuck on that for a while at least

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but hopefully soon I can use wayland

twin lagoon
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uwot

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wayland on nvidia, never

stiff yarrow
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Nvidia doesn’t work in general on wayland

twin lagoon
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xorg should work fine on the proprietary nvidia driver

placid swallow
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sorry for the pain that you recives but how can i slow world generation to take less performance impact on cpu? Am I able it by lowering chunk-tasks-per-tick: 1000 ?

stiff yarrow
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I bought an amd gpu just to wayland alchemy

twin lagoon
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amd gpus are best

stiff yarrow
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Currently in fedora because I accidentally break arch all the time customizing it and I never make backup images because I don’t ever learn my lesson

void void
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i came back to debian cos it just works™️

potent fossil
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hmm yea gnome 3 is nice, but i hate the new settings

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and i cant stop the hot corner?

twin lagoon
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you can with an addon

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lulw

potent fossil
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r u kiddin me

twin lagoon
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.g gnome extensions hot corner

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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what the fuck :^)

pulsar fox
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ew gnome

twin lagoon
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this one actually

pulsar fox
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@twin lagoon DM?

twin lagoon
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y

stiff yarrow
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I like the hot corner alchemy

twin lagoon
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feel free to add

void void
median crane
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@twin lagoon im relevant eys

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??

twin lagoon
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don't download your stuff from shady minecraft sites

void void
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Its 9minecraft

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Chill

mighty storm
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which is... shady

quasi valley
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that's shady

twin lagoon
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9minecraft is shady

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lol

void void
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._:

mighty storm
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if it's not curseforge (or github) it's automatically shady in my eyes

twin lagoon
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either curseforge or github

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the rest is bad

void void
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._O

warm anchor
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He is the definition of shady himself it’s ok lol he runs big offline server /s

twin lagoon
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also true

warm anchor
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Also yeah that site is shady

serene bolt
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9minecraft is crap, get it from the source, they just copy peoples stuff and put a billion aids in front of it

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I meant ads, but aids works

mighty storm
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I believe it just downloads from curseforge anyway

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the actual "download"

twin lagoon
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oh no it doesn't

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lmao

potent fossil
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ok

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demon you sold me on gnome 3 thx

twin lagoon
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gnome 3 is epic

potent fossil
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this is mac like

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i enjoy

twin lagoon
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try dash to dock aswell

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if you want a dock

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.g gnome extensions dash to dock

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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was using plank but ill try that

twin lagoon
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there's also

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.g gnome extensions dash to panel

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
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for windows like taskbar

median crane
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

median crane
limber knotBOT
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eta for what, the shutdown of 9minecraft?

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god i hope soon

brave lichen
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.eta still works

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

mighty storm
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of course it still works but now there's no reason to use it

elder tree
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Is there a way to disable nether fog without optifine?

molten cloud
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pOTATO

spice finch
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I've seen on Aikar's live that IntellIJ doesn't find some classes, same happens to me. Is there any explanation for it?

finite wave
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Doesn't find meaning?

spice finch
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I mean in paper source

pulsar wigeon
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you mean sources or classes?

golden gust
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pretty sure that's covered in the contrib guide

pulsar wigeon
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sources that haven't yet been touched by the patch process have to be manually imported in the mcdev scripts

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yea that's covered

golden gust
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There is also the ./paper m command to throw all the untouched files into work/mc/ver/src or something like that, you can add that as a sources root in IJ

ancient bolt
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there can be times when intellij isn't fully indexed and just can't find a file that does exist

potent fossil
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god that dock @twin lagoon thank u

ancient bolt
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but that's typically in the middle of failed patch applies

potent fossil
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this is beautiful

twin lagoon
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dash to dock is best

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also get topicons redux

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or whatever the latest topicons is

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and appindicator support

ancient bolt
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it's hilarious how much of this stuff is essential system UI, but gnome has just removed it because "it's hard"

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and now extensions have to add this shit back in

twin lagoon
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gnome has some questionable design choices

ancient bolt
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from what I've read they've been removing a lot of this stuff because the code that implemented it was a dumpster fire

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and they decided from a maintainability perspective just chucking it and letting extensions handle it was the best option

potent fossil
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at least with extensions its nice again

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but bare gnome 3 is yikes

twin lagoon
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accurate

ancient bolt
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and maybe, maybe they'll look into re-adding support natively in a better way

twin lagoon
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default theme is a bit yikes too

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way too big title bars

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though it does look nice other than that

ancient bolt
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but the extensions cover it so well it's probably not gonna happen

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I use OSX-Arc-Shadow theme, looks fantastic

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and blue paper icons

golden gust
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it's somewhat annoying that it's basically a literally useless DE on the desktop unless you start stuffing it with addons

ancient bolt
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the above ^ is the same reason they removed transparency in the gnome terminal

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I have to install a gnome-terminal-transparency just to get that back atayhuh

twin lagoon
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is the best theme imo

twin lagoon
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manjaro meme

pulsar fox
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my old desktop

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ye before their massive security derp

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then I just went back to arch lol

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also back when we had datapacket sponsorship LOL

potent fossil
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wait, i can change the gnome 3 theme?

spice finch
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I've seen on Aikar's live that IntellIJ doesn't find some classes, same happens to me. Is there any explanation for it?
that's what I was talking about. I didn't understand contributing.md or that's not covered

pulsar wigeon
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errrrrr

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that's not even nms

finite wave
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Are you importing an incorrect version?

twin lagoon
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@potent fossil yes

golden gust
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either you opened the wrong think or IJ needs to reindex

twin lagoon
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install gnome tweaks

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head into extensions

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enable User themes

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restart tweaks, go to the appearance tab / first tab

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you can configure Shell themes from there

spice finch
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it is nms wiz

potent fossil
spice finch
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maybe I dont get you

potent fossil
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woot

spice finch
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pretty new in this topic

potent fossil
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oh god yes

pulsar fox
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had to hide discord monkaS

twin lagoon
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see you have taste because we use the same colour scheme

mighty storm
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hide discord 🤔

twin lagoon
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@pulsar fox create a traefik config

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removes the need for having all of those labels

limber knotBOT
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so is it just me or is sys lying regarding the 30% off? can't see a single offer where that is true, lol

pulsar fox
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the entire point of traefik is to have the labels wut

twin lagoon
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if you create a simple config you don't have to have 60 labels per container

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lmao

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while still retaining the ability to add an app and automatically proxying it

pulsar fox
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If I wanted to do that might as well use nginx lol

twin lagoon
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no you literally set some dead simple default shit in traefik's config

pulsar fox
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the entire point is to have configuration live along side container config

twin lagoon
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it works both ways

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but having a simple config file to define defaults makes it nicer tbh

pulsar wigeon
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cdfn, i mean playerjoinevent isn't nms. if you're not finding bukkit classes something is wrong with your setup that has nothing to do with importing mcdev.

limber knotBOT
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phoenix616, "This special offer gives you 25% off the price of a So you Start E3-SAT-1-32, E5-SAT-2-64, GAME-1, E5-SAT-1-64, E5-SSD-2-64, GAME-2, GAME-3, E3-SSD-1-32, E5-SSD-1-64 and E3-SAT-1-16 Dedicated Server."

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well they say 30%

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E3-SSD-2-32 and E3-SAT-2-32 are 30%

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and no, these aren't even 25% off

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50.41€ -> 41.64€ are not 30%

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thats what the page says 🤷

spice finch
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cdfn, i mean playerjoinevent isn't nms. if you're not finding bukkit classes something is wrong with your setup that has nothing to do with importing mcdev.
Maybe wrong scope? I opened only PaperSpigot-Server, should I open Paper instead maybe? I'll try

limber knotBOT
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@spice finch [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

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oh wow

pulsar fox
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yea, either way works, but my ultimate goal for my home stack is to have nothing but the stack files themselves and an environment file

limber knotBOT
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oh boy

twin lagoon
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uhoh 1.8

limber knotBOT
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they fucked up on their display

pulsar fox
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hence I try to keep as much as possible in labels

limber knotBOT
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they're indeed 30% off here

twin lagoon
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fair enough

limber knotBOT
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they display the price without VAT for their old price, but the price with VAT for the new one

spice finch
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that's what I'll need patches for, also I had it already built so peeposhrug

limber knotBOT
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was 59.99 with VAT before

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lmao

golden gust
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yes, you need to open the paper project itself

limber knotBOT
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might get myself one tho, is a big upgrade from my machine with hetz

pulsar fox
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oh boy, that spiral

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you start doing that Proxi you end up with 23 boxes half of which you don't even remember you have

limber knotBOT
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hey noo this is a cheaper machine with better specs than the one i have

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only 250mbps bandwidth tho :/

pulsar fox
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why doesn't the idea cli helper fork monkaHmm

limber knotBOT
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gonna wait until tomorrow to see if they forward the German VAT reduction xD

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also why am I only seeing now that they offer that, it seems like they started on June 18th Oo

spice finch
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Opened Paper instead of Paper-Server and it worked GWbopkePandaYayGif all classes are detected now

potent fossil
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@potent fossil you play rimworld right? have you tried the royal dlc?
@spare venture I am not a rimmer

median crane
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Ants

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YES

potent fossil
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What

median crane
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I bought ants

potent fossil
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Ok

mighty storm
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just go outside and get your own ants for free smh

median crane
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no

woven otter
smoky python
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Ikr 👀

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Check the poll

median crane
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what is that

smoky python
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Drama

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Fresh drama

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, old drama already tbh

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with how this community goes

median crane
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want drama

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?

smoky python
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No

median crane
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ants > thermites

smoky python
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I am good for now

median crane
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

median crane
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Petition to change goblins to ants

smoky python
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I once was fed to the goblins

median crane
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me too

mighty storm
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oh no

smoky python
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And boom

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The goblins where there before I knew it

median crane
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ah

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Mine was a bit more serious

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i dont remember the context

mighty storm
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i just didnt ask 👀

wide chasm
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Does anyone know why the bungeecord-api version now suddenly contains a revision number (R0.1) in 1.16? This wasn't the case for 1.15.

woven otter
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consistency? idk

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/s

mighty storm
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md_5 logic i guess

smoky python
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I agree with the duck

terse marsh
mighty storm
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Spigot

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SpongeForge is Plugin+Mods right?

void void
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spitgot

mighty storm
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ik thats why I said Spigot was missing lol

limber knotBOT
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yeah, SpongeVanilla vs SpongeForge

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API is Sponge and only supports plugins

terse marsh
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spitgot
@void void corrected, thanks

limber knotBOT
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thats like putting Bukkit instead of CraftBukkit or w/e

quasi valley
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glances at bstats

terse marsh
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Fabric = mods right?

mighty storm
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yes

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can I start my own stats called cStats?

glacial kelp
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Anyone aware of a way I can include dynmap regions into the TAB List plugin?

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Like in what Area you are currently in?

limber knotBOT
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bStats is open source, so yes

terse marsh
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added Fabric, corrected Spigot 🙂

finite wave
mighty storm
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im waitin

spice finch
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general is dead

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after few days of more than 20 people being on it

terse marsh
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moved SpongeForge from Mods to Plugins + Mods

mighty storm
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Are these just actively maintained versions?

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also is this Java only?

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you could arguably add Protocol translators and put Geyser

terse marsh
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interesting, adding now

mighty storm
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I mean there's also forks of CB like Project Poseidon which is a fork of CB beta 1.7.3

terse marsh
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refresh please

smoky python
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@terse marsh Check yives his website, there you can find most of the server software https://yivesmirror.com/, if you click on download

mighty storm
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also it's Bedrock -> Java

terse marsh
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corrected

mighty storm
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sweet

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also I think there's PocketMine

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idk how up to date it is

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oh yeah, proxies

terse marsh
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hmmm...where should I put Glowstone...

mighty storm
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I beleive it's plugins too?

smoky python
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Yeah

terse marsh
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I guess...because it's not "vanilla"

mighty storm
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Or "Official"

twin lagoon
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there's also Rift

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.g Rift minecraft

limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
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thx google

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eh only made it to 1.13

mighty storm
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thats just Vanilla with extra steps

smoky python
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I was just about to buy that game

terse marsh
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I bought it

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it makes you sick :))

smoky python
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I didn't, I need to focus more on my own projects

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I am already distracted too much

terse marsh
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refresh please

twin lagoon
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there's also Cuberite

finite wave
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Glowstone mentioned?, nvm it was.

smoky python
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And what is that other server software called that Gianluca uses for that survival server if I am not wrong?

twin lagoon
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Tuinity

smoky python
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Yes that one

terse marsh
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is Cuberite still maintaned?

twin lagoon
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if you want a list of maintained & relevant ones you shouldn't add cuberite & glowstone

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nor craftbukkit

smoky python
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glowstone is still maintained?

quasi valley
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just look for yourself

twin lagoon
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relevant

spice finch
smoky python
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Yeah

spice finch
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COULD YOU MAKE YOUR GITHUB DARK PLEASE

void void
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dark mode all the things

quasi valley
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sending random screen of commits won't give you anything

spice finch
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thats what i do lol

quasi valley
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actually look at commit history, what version it's stuck at, and a progress issue

smoky python
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Its like dead but still moving

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Its not relevant anymore to be on the list

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😔

nocturne summit
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Do turtles breed by themselfs or is that a thing that can be disabled?

smoky python
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U murder

green turret
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Jesus...

mighty storm
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@spice finch github doesnt have native dark, dont really have a choice...

void void
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use a dark mode plugin

spice finch
mighty storm
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and i aint paying $5 for dark reader

green turret
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Stop playing god Eric. Leave turtles alone.

void void
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yeah dark reader

nocturne summit
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So there is nothing server side to disable auto turtle breeding?

void void
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it's free

spice finch
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uh, why would you pay?

mighty storm
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unless you can get me a free version for safari :p

quasi valley
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save the environment!!

void void
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smh safari

smoky python
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@nocturne summit There probably is

dapper nacelle
twin lagoon
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use stylus

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.g github dark stylish theme

dapper nacelle
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its out

stable sun
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is spartan better than aac?

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://github.com/StylishThemes/GitHub-Dark -- StylishThemes/GitHub-Dark: Dark GitHub style - GitHub: "make themes : Parse the theme files and combine them into minified styles in the themes directory. make clean : Reformat github-dark.css to conform..."

serene bolt
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I like how they bothered to modernize the github UI but still didn't add a dark mode, like wtf

void void
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use aac

spice finch
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I like how everything for apple is paid

mighty storm
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that requires Stylus which is Chromium/Firefox only

twin lagoon
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well

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don't use a bad browser then

stable sun
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spartan looks good tho

void void
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just use firefox

serene bolt
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wtf are you using that's not chromium or firefox 🤔

mighty storm
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Implying I am using a bad browser?

void void
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we're saying it

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haha

mighty storm
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Internet Explorer, obviously

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what else would I be using

smoky python
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I used to have stylus but for some reason the dark version I used (2 years ago) didn't work

spice finch
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IE is dead for Windows greater than 8 prob

smoky python
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And that other styling addon that stole data

spice finch
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there's __ M I C R O S O F T E D G E__

quasi valley
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edge is pretty decent

mighty storm
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Edge is chromium now

quasi valley
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ye

spice finch
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indeed

void void
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it's like a worse skinned chrome

spice finch
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still, microsoft kappa

quasi valley
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doesn't matter if I'm selling myself out for Microsoft or Google

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but I prefer to be a Google sellout

smoky python
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Tbh, is it me or does all applications in the app store of windows feel wrong & looks wrong?

spice finch
mighty storm
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Is there a link that describes waterfall or just the downloads

quasi valley
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the windows store is just ugly

spice finch
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I use some of MS Store apps, Spotify, Termius and some stuff

void void
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windows is just ugly

spice finch
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if it's available from MS Store i simply download it from there

smoky python
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That time I opened the ubuntu software store

void void
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i avoided the ms store at all costs

smoky python
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I felt like I was in heaven

void void
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really slow

spice finch
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I like how it says internet speed in Mb and not MB, it makes me feel better...

smoky python
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All the apps I needed where there with a nice looking toolbar and fast

vernal moth
mighty storm
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nice

quasi valley
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sexey

vernal moth
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so you can insert the sender of a chat message using his display name component for example

spice finch
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wow, tests for minecraft?

vernal moth
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so his rank is inherited and stuff

void void
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minimessage updates partyparrot

mighty storm
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what was tux's proxy software called

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Truinity or whatever

twin lagoon
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wat

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tux's proxy software is Velocity

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Tuinity is spottedleaf's paper fork

pulsar wigeon
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lmao

mighty storm
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ahh see thats why i asked

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thats custom made right, not a fork?

twin lagoon
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tux's is his own yes

finite wave
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Velocity good stuff

vernal moth
spice finch
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thanks for arrows kappa

vernal moth
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I cant be arsed to write a plugin to test this, lol

pulsar wigeon
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tbf it's just testing an api vs strings

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not testing in game behaviors

spice finch
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yeah

pulsar wigeon
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WG has shitloads of tests for regions too

vernal moth
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yeah, this is 100% independent from MC

mighty storm
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what versions does it support?

vernal moth
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1.7.10 - 1.16

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I mean, the bukkit adapters do

mighty storm
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ah like Travertine

pulsar wigeon
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WE has a bunch of essentially math tests

vernal moth
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(talking about my lib olivia)

pulsar wigeon
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basically tests are easy as long as you dont have to interface with MC for them

spice finch
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Does someone know any plugin with good "game tests"? I mean mocked ingame behaviour

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Curious how it works

quasi valley
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you can't mock ingame behaviour without being ingame lol

spice finch
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uh

green turret
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WE has math tests?! Omg wiz this isn't school. Stop making me take tests!

vernal moth
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there is mockbukkit

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which does a good job at letting you test bukkit plugins

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it basically implemented parts of the bukkit api

pulsar wigeon
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yes mule pls solve these thousand randomly generated vector checks so we can compare your results with our code

spice finch
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I'll have to learn tests some day, it's good to know how to write them properly

limber knotBOT
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just write event-driven code, that's a lot easier to test ;)

spice finch
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but... writing tests for REST API seems to be easier than writing tests for minecraft

green turret
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Fuck

wide chasm
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Just fill in random results and then tell them their code is wrong

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Clearly the human brain is superior over such a dumb computer

green turret
#

It's the server's fault

quasi valley
#

of course it is cdfn, because you control whatever rest endpoint you have and don't have to start an mc server, having to connect your own mc client to in the worst case thonk

merry orchid
#

is there a plugin which allows or has a way to spawn a mob e.g wolf with the name of the person that spawned it? i tried mcstacker that sells a wolf spawn egg and have the wolf spawn with the player name but %player% etc of the placeholders dont work... please @ me if you know

mighty storm
spice finch
#

Opensource contributors, respect them alot 🙂

twin lagoon
#

this should be adjusted

#

it's not formally

#

it should be formerly

mighty storm
#

I didnt get everything from the gist someone made, but now there's stuff there.

#

bro it's a wiki

sick tendon
#

formally and formerly are way different

mighty storm
#

there

limber knotBOT
#

o​li​vi​a~​~: CraftBukkit is dead

twin lagoon
#

epic

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now remove craftbukkit & move paper to the top

mighty storm
limber knotBOT
#

also why use a green background for an outdated version?

quasi valley
#

the descriptions are all a bit eh

limber knotBOT
#

tbh it wouldn't be too wrong to list CraftBukkit with the Bukkit team as developers and their last release as the main version

#

Spigot has never mainly developed CB for distribution

#

(or at least list the last time BuildTools actually built CB lol)

smoky python
#

So paper is developer by papermc

#

and spigot is developer by spigotmc

#

So craftbukkit is developer by craftbukkitmc?

finite wave
#

yes

mighty storm
#

Before there used to be nothing below the first line, I just wrote it up quickly

#

to match the bedrock one

#

ill mess around with it, there's no CB for 1.16 right?

finite wave
#

I mean you can get the spigot one

wide chasm
#

You can get CB for 1.16

#

You just have to specify it.

mighty storm
#

Well there's Spigot CB and DMCA'd CraftBukkit

smoky python
#

Cheatbreaker?

wide chasm
#

Spigot CB is just a continuation of DMCA'd CB.

pulsar fox
smoky python
#

Ah

vernal moth
#

does it serialize to json or adventure or smth?

limber knotBOT
#

Spigot's BuildTools just doesn't build craftbukkit anymore as the target

vernal moth
#

but like, that resource has 31 downloads, I don't really care, lol

limber knotBOT
#

and of course Spigot's development goal isn't cb, it's spigot lol

slim nymph
#

you can call Spigots CB "SpigotUnsupported" lol

limber knotBOT
#

T​ob​os​hi​i: MineDown has that

#

runs

pulsar fox
#

nono, I mean, that lib has a backwards compat mode where if you use rgb and it's sent to a <1.16 client it converts it to closest minecraft color

vernal moth
#

ooh totally

#

adventure has that, so minimessage has that too

#

it will down convert hex to its nearest named color

pulsar fox
#

ah

limber knotBOT
#

does it do auto conversion?

vernal moth
#

yes

pulsar fox
#

didn't realize adventure had that

#

coolio then

vernal moth
#

it even hooks into viaversion

limber knotBOT
#

eww

vernal moth
#

so you can have a 1.15 sever and send hex messages to 1.16 clients, but downconvert for vanilla clients

limber knotBOT
#

yeah I wond bother with that, lol. that wouls require me actually adding methods to send messages xD

slim nymph
#

not worth the effort trying to use it in 1.15 lol

limber knotBOT
#

detection if rgb support is available on the server/proxy is the most I'll do

#

plugins can do the rest e.g. in my SLP fork I just check the ping version and convert depending on that

vernal moth
#

well, adventure has separate platform packages where all that is hidden away

#

it will also prefer paper api over spigot iirc

#

and falls back to reflection for CB

limber knotBOT
#

what does paper do for components? thonk

vernal moth
#

not much yet

#

see my tracking issue, bukkit almost nowhere exposes components

#

only for chat really

#

how does I merge a branch back into master without merge commit?

limber knotBOT
#

rebase?

mighty storm
#

based rebase?

vernal moth
#

yeah but what args?

#

git rebase master feature/adventure
Current branch feature/adventure is up to date.

quasi valley
#

just git rebase branch to rebase your current to the given branch

vernal moth
#

I just inverted the args

green turret
#

Rebase ❤️

quasi valley
#

I love people that merge the upstream branch for every commit it receives in a pr

#

for the little/simple prs that is

regal shuttle
#

What is Waterfall?

pulsar fox
#

A fork of bungeecord

quasi valley
#

a stream of watter rapidly falling down a cliff

regal shuttle
#

thx for definition

mighty storm
#

you mean water

quasi valley
#

no

#

watter

mighty storm
#

watter those

#

old meme

true sky
#

I swear that meme was like 2015/16 xD

worn ember
smoky python
#

PowerGPU claims that the new update of windows has some goods in for gamers

worn ember
#

dont really care tbh, i already run most games i care about well xD

serene bolt
#

requires the latest nvidia driver btw, needs the latest WDDM support

worn ember
#

nvidia?

#

no thanks

serene bolt
#

enjoy your AMD graphics drivers

worn ember
#

i am

#

lol

quasi valley
#

but you're also ded

worn ember
#

for you that would be pep

austere ivy
#

where is the minecraft map color palette stored?

#

I need it for pixel art on Minecraft maps

#

minecraft wiki isn't up to date for 1.16

quasi valley
#

uhm, it is

mighty storm
#

1.16 stuff should be there

#

if not it's on the 1.16 changelog

quasi valley
#
Minecraft Wiki

Maps do not store their information in the item - instead, their data value corresponds to the map number (ID) of a saved file. Their information is placed in the "data" directory within the world's save directory. Each map has its own file associated with its ID, and there is...

austere ivy
#

I know I checked that

#

I made a python script to rip the colors from the wiki

quasi valley
#

well that is up to date

austere ivy
#

I'm trying to make a palette for aseprite

fallen oracle
mighty storm
#

so close

austere ivy
#

how would you check/update that

#

THAT'S what I'm curious about

#

I want to be able to datamine it

quasi valley
#

it's basecolor * 4

#

with 4 stages of shade

fallen oracle
#

POGGERS We just went up to 42

mighty storm
#

The data for Java snapshots is current as of 20w19a.

austere ivy
#

where are the base colors

quasi valley
#

in that same article

mighty storm
worn ember
#

kek

austere ivy
#

let's pretend we didn't have the wiki

quasi valley
austere ivy
#

where are the base colors in the minecraft code?

#

or assets?

quasi valley
#

does it matter? just some materialtype class

#

but that's not colors

austere ivy
#

I want to be able to datamine it and put it into a color palette with Python so it can be constantly updated with each snapshot

quasi valley
#

then get it from the wiki from their base colors

#

that's all you need, it's simple maths to get the 4 shades of each base color

austere ivy
#

but what if we didn't have the wiki and I just had a copy of Minecraft

#

what then?

quasi valley
#

but

#

you do

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sick tendon
#

lol just ignore his question

grand pewter
#

ya

sick tendon
#

yikes

#

not nice

austere ivy
#

thanks I guess then I'll do that ._.

potent fossil
grand pewter
#

i mean its the best answer

#

unless he wants to research into it himself

sick tendon
#

yeah but it doesn't answer his question lmao

quasi valley
#

spacey

worn ember
#

u got gnomed

pulsar wigeon
#

he's not entitled to be handheld through shit

#

if you have a problem with that, answer the question yourself zaxarner

potent fossil
#

idk who thats about but i agree

pulsar wigeon
#

otherwise just mind your own business

austere ivy
#

you're right, I just want a starting off point that's all

sick tendon
#

didn't say he was. but maybe he's trying to learn something?

potent warren
grand pewter
#

wiki is a starting point

austere ivy
#

I just want to know where to research

grand pewter
#

not like everyone knows about base colors lol

austere ivy
#

okay, that's a good answer then, thank you

pulsar wigeon
#

telling other people off because you dont like their answer to someone else's question smh

grand pewter
#

kinda random thing xD

sick tendon
#

lmfao

#

that's funny

grand pewter
#

hey @ everyone where is the base colors in the minecraft code

#

crickets

mighty storm
#

just decompile and grep it duh

worn ember
#

oh oh its in the ChatColor Enum pepega

grand pewter
#

is it

celest coyote
#

"enum"

grand pewter
#

oh wait a second

pulsar wigeon
#

it's in chatcolor2 actually

grand pewter
#

i misread that as material

waxen panther
#

Hmmm

pulsar wigeon
#

all the colors are in there :^)

quasi valley
#

^

pulsar wigeon
#

all map colors are actually in chatcolor2

worn ember
#

can we bully mojang for CYMK colors now? So the apple fanboys can stop being triggered about shitty rgb colors

potent fossil
quasi valley
#

it's MaterialColor with mojang mappings btw, you're lucky I literally had to go through all the hacky map data stuff today lol

smoky python
#

Fuck rgb & CYMK, I just want every single color

void void
#

hello, i saw that skullmeta in paper has gameprofile api which allows you to set the custom gameprofile for the skull. how can i create a new gameprofile object using that api?

quasi valley
#

Bukkit.createProfile or something

void void
#

thanks

austere ivy
#

kenny that's really useful, I'll look there, thank you so much.

drifting plume
#

someone know how to change startup parameters when you got a pterodactyl server?

mighty storm
trail sky
#

Question: Does Paper work with VanillaTweaks?

woven otter
#

drama needs api :C

austere ivy
#

kenny is that in client or server?

#

or would that be in both? I'm not very familiar with minecraft's source

mighty storm
#

drama has api!

woven otter
#

oh

#

cool

#

thanks

placid swallow
#

If there is an online project developer it would be nice if someone of them can explain me what this do chunk-tasks-per-tick: 1000 Because I can't find it on the internet.. 🙂

vernal moth
#

ouch

quasi valley
#

best bet is to apply mappings to the client, since it is both server and client code

#

shame on you mini smfh

zealous wedge
#

the bukkit api died in 2014

chrome scroll
quasi valley
#

can confirm

zealous wedge
#

it was pretty nice back then

potent fossil
#

hmm, vivaldi is quite nice

mighty storm
#

Agree

spice finch
past sigil
#

Hey guys, you have any recommendation for a good anti afk plugin ? I was thinking about something likle a captcha comes after X hours

quasi valley
#

what if people have their chat very small

#

or even disabled

pulsar wigeon
past sigil
#

It's fine, they'll be aware of the system before joining anyway @quasi valley 😛

potent fossil
#

what kind of food should i order

void void
#

good food

#

preferably edible more than once

potent fossil
#

hmm

stuck vault
#

on https://papermc.io/downloads, what does "Updated Upstream (Bukkit/CraftBukkit/Spigot)" mean? does it upgrade papermc to a higher version of spigot or something?

austere ivy
#

decompiling isn't going so good

quasi valley
#

oh yeah uh you gotta use enigma 14. something, new is bork

#

Had to make local changes to make the newest work

vernal moth
#

@stuck vault exactly. Spigot did some changes, and paper pulled them in

austere ivy
#

0.14?

stuck vault
#

ohh ok, thanks

austere ivy
#

there are no prebuilt jars for 0.14

#

time to build

#

and there are no tags past 0.11 thonk

#

would 0.17 work or is that also bork

quasi valley
#

I think everything since .15 is bork lol

austere ivy
#

time to go through their commits then..? ._.

#

are they aware it is bork?

quasi valley
#

To tell you how bork it’s been; I pr’d a fix to the cli decompile command, which was broken and untouched for almost half a year aaa

#

Yeah they are, I have an open issue

austere ivy
#

who made it bork? git blame time?

quasi valley
#

the decompilers fail for some of the classes, but at some point they removed exception handling there and also don’t have any fallback in place

austere ivy
#

would 0.11 work

#

fork this I'm just gonna pull from the wiki

#

actually I just need that one class

#

I'll just get it myself

#

remap it myself lol

#

this file is 73 thousand lines

#

ahah, I've found it

void void
#

i'm currently using enigma 0.16

#

i just changed something so that index failures or smthin didn't crash the whole thing

vernal moth
fallen oracle
potent fossil
#

good merge

serene bolt
#

sweet

vernal moth
#

If you don't care, at least you get to see a nice kitty pic

fallen oracle
#

I am moist.

#

Very nice Mini.

pulsar wigeon
#

🤢

fallen oracle
#

Will be hardcore utilizing this when 4.0 comes out.

vernal moth
#

Der, more kitten

woven otter
#

very cool

#

thanks

serene bolt
#

the RGB gradients are one of my favorite things in minimessage, it just looks so good

vernal moth
#

Make Sure sound is on

#

Rez, ppl actually do those by hand

#

It has to be such a pain

serene bolt
#

oof yeah no kidding

limber knotBOT
#

there are enough websites to generate rainbows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

the difficult thing is to get it looking right in legacy colors. how do you solve that one?

vernal moth
#

I haven't written that code

#

I think zml did

zealous wedge
#

it needs improvement - it's ok but it's a bit too likely to choose greys

#

blame rgb

pulsar wigeon
#

don't use rbg

#

convert to hsl

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, you want to compare the perceived luminosity

pulsar wigeon
#

^^

zealous wedge
#

ya that's been on my list to do but gotta do math for that

limber knotBOT
#

but I was talking about making legacy rainbows look good too :P

zealous wedge
#

and there are lots of other things that have needed doing

pulsar wigeon
vernal moth
#

If legacy rainbows don't look good, I just blame the conversion code 😂

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, it's a "solved" problem

pulsar wigeon
zealous wedge
#

ya that's the exact page I used for adventures algorithm wiz

limber knotBOT
#

well I hand adjusted the rainbow in my MOTD to look good with legacy and RGB at the same time ;D

pulsar wigeon
#

WE uses crappy wool colors tho

#

at least color codes have actual rgb values you can match

limber knotBOT
#

but, uh, MineDown currently just uses the rgb channel distance for conversion because I don't really care too much about legacy support lol

vernal moth
#

But like, seeing how many servers are updating, I don't really think about legacy too much

pulsar wigeon
#

yea

#

legacy gross

vernal moth
#

If you want nice colors, just update your client

#

And it's still readable to olders, so it's fine

zealous wedge
#

I mean adventure supports all the way back to 1.7.10

limber knotBOT
#

I really only addid it because Proximyst mentioned it and I wanted to have a rainbow MOTD xD

pulsar wigeon
#

3.x doesn't does it

#

does 3.x even support 1.16

#

i think the CB adapter broke

zealous wedge
#

ya 3.x does - I fixed the cb adapter in 3.0.5

limber knotBOT
#

(and when I finish the Minedown adventure/text stuff I just fall back to that legacy ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

pulsar wigeon
#

o nice

#

might need to go update that then

limber knotBOT
#

just use 4 ;P

pulsar wigeon
#

can't yet

#

it's breaking afaik

vernal moth
#

Yeah it's breaking

zealous wedge
#

3.x might support 1.7 as well - there are references to it in the code

void void
#

Rate my new emoji

zealous wedge
#

and yall use components in the api ya?

pulsar wigeon
#

yes, we expose 3.x

#

we're getting rid of all the string stuff entirely

zealous wedge
#

though you relocate 3.x so it's already not compatible with other copies of the lib

pulsar wigeon
#

right, but our exposed api can't change without breaking

zealous wedge
#

ya

pulsar wigeon
#

i.e. if WE switched to adventure, WG would break

#

because WG expects WE to expose 3.x-relocated

zealous wedge
#

it's a funky design

#

but there's no way around it with how bad the bukkit dep situation is

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, one of the reasons WE always rolled its own shit for 10 years

vernal moth
#

I mean, hopefully this is the last major breaking change in a long time

zealous wedge
#

^

vernal moth
#

Since I expect many ppl to adopt it now, because how many ppl want to use hex stuff now and how shitty bungees impl is

pulsar wigeon
#

yea i mean we're 1.13+ already anyway

kindred storm
#

but there's no way around it with how bad the bukkit dep situation is

#

imagine

#

it's so sad

#

no one wants to install dependency plugins ;-;

pulsar wigeon
#

and hopefully the 1.14/1.15 crowd updates to 1.16 quick

#

couldn't care less about 1.8 and 1.12 crowds

zealous wedge
#

nobody should have to manually install dependency plugins anyways

#

package managers exist they're not a new concept

kindred storm
#

yeah but there is none for Bukkit

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, sorta

zealous wedge
#

there was bukget

#

and there's dependency downloader libs

pulsar wigeon
#

the real issue is that you can't even leverage jigsaw at runtime cuz everyone is on 8 still

#

so everyone has to relocate everything anyway

#

also required downloads for basic function is a big nono for me

#

i'd draw the line at downloading optional libs for certain configurations

#

eg special database adapters

zealous wedge
#

I mean you have to download the plugin in the first place

pulsar wigeon
#

yea but i mean the plugin should just work as is

kindred storm
#

then you can't download dependencies at runtime

pulsar wigeon
#

the idea of needing to download 20 libs at first startup is 🤢

limber knotBOT
#

isn't not-relocating solved with the paper class loader patch though?

kindred storm
#

that just makes things worse

pulsar wigeon
#

imagine everyone used paper phoenix

#

and a modern version at that

zealous wedge
#

paper class loader doesn't help not paper

pulsar wigeon
#

1.13 is down to 2.5% at least, 1.14 is still at 10% tho .-.

#

wrt WE stats, so 1.13+ only

limber knotBOT
#

imagine PRing to not paper

pulsar wigeon
#

already 25% on 1.16 tho, should easily overtake the 1.15 crowd in the next month

#

phoenix u twat

#

your prs hit spigot regularly

limber knotBOT
#

yes, that's my point

zealous wedge
#

why would you stay on 1.14, does it have any reasons to stay

pulsar wigeon
#

yea no idea

limber knotBOT
#

just PR it to spigot if you want the feature everywhere

zealous wedge
#

it's technically forge lts

pulsar wigeon
#

1.14 was a fucking dumpsterfire

#

well, i doubt that means much for bukkit stats

zealous wedge
#

lol I haven't prd anything since bukkit-bleeding

pulsar wigeon
#

are we getting modpacks on 1.14

#

is there enough surface for that yet

zealous wedge
#

not really

pulsar wigeon
#

figures

tall goblet
#

someone tested 1.16.1 #27?

pulsar wigeon
#

no, no builds are tested

#

they all run into the open fields and graze alone

zealous wedge
#

forge 1.14 made them reconsider the lts system

#

cuz nobody used it

waxen panther
#

eyes

void void
#

optfine still not have 1.15

#

i guess the devs were like fuck this

tall goblet
#

no, no builds are tested
@pulsar wigeon

I could test it by myslef but if someone already stress tested it, it would be obsolete to do

pulsar wigeon
#

don't ping me

#

yea, unfortunately as long as modpacks target 1.7.10/1.12.2 there's little reason to develop for 1.14

limber knotBOT
#

optifine test builds for 1.15 have been out for ages, lol

zealous wedge
#

optifine isn't an example of a good mod

limber knotBOT
#

also ^

#

fuck proprietary software

void void
#

what about the release builds

zealous wedge
#

it needs to be taken down

#

speaking of, if anyone wants to write a shaders mod

limber knotBOT
#

god, if I had even more time and more client-modding experience + an alcohol problem I would just rewrite optifine as an open source fabric mod, lol

zealous wedge
#

mcpatcher is still open source

spice finch
#

an alcohol problem
musthave for writing mods

void void
kindred storm
#

it would be nice to have an open-source optifine replacement

pulsar wigeon
#

that's basically the hope phoenix lol

zealous wedge
#

and that's where most of the non-shader pretty parts of optifine came from

limber knotBOT
#

I can't deal with client bull shit without drinking, lol

austere ivy
#

I frikn did it

#

for you all to enjoy

limber knotBOT
#

I guess it's better now that we have mappings thonk

pulsar wigeon
#

is mcpatcher still a thing?

#

hmm

zealous wedge
#

it's not maintained, but the repo exists

pulsar wigeon
#

oic

limber knotBOT
#

T​eh​Br​ia​n: why?

zealous wedge
#

it's actually a super neat system - - since it does patches onto an obfuscated jar

hazy veldt
#

PaperMC: Client Edition

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, not happening

limber knotBOT
#

fabric performance mods already exist ¯_(ツ)_/¯

zealous wedge
#

ya but optifine doesn't give performance

pulsar wigeon
#

well

#

don't 50% of people use it for perf and 50% use it for shaders

limber knotBOT
#

that depends on the machine I guess

pulsar wigeon
#

it's like opposite ends of the spectrum

zealous wedge
#

it's a shaders mod

pulsar wigeon
#

half the people with bad pcs and half with too good pcs

limber knotBOT
#

you can go from 15fps to playable with ~30 on bad machines with optifine

pulsar wigeon
#

idk i just hear constantly that ppl can't play new versions without optifine cuz their pcs suck

vernal moth
#

I think there is placebo involved

zealous wedge
#

I mean if you want a bit of clienty api, adventure can work on client players in the fabric adapter lol

hazy veldt
#

Yeah, when I had a potato long ago OptiFine was amazing

zealous wedge
#

these days sodium helps quite a bit

void void
#

did not bother with client mods back then i just set my render distance to 2

#

I get maybe 120 frames without optfine and 190 with, I mostly like little tweaks like cloud height editing

pulsar wigeon
#

is someone maintaining sodium etc?

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, all of the twearks optifine has are nice and probable the main reason why people use it nowadays on their gaming PCs

#

came for the performance (when they had a shit PC), stayed for the features (zoom, shaders, capes)

pulsar wigeon
#

capes 👀

austere ivy
#

forgot the name, let's say you have an RGB color 0 100 200, and you were just talking about ONE of those numbers, say, 200

#

what would that be called?

#

is it component?

vernal moth
#

Yep

austere ivy
#

phoenix616 the palette is so you can draw in other programs and put those drawings into Minecraft on maps without the colors being changed

vernal moth
#

It would be the blue component

austere ivy
#

alright that's what I kinda thought but I wasn't sure, thank you.

limber knotBOT
#

I just use dithering ¯_(ツ)_/¯

zealous wedge
#

jelly is still committing things to sodium - - but I don't think she has a new maintainer yet

austere ivy
#

what do you mean by that, phoenix?

limber knotBOT
#

creating new colors by using multiple (4) pixels that average that color

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think old comic book printing

austere ivy
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oh yeah well you can do that still

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but it's just that when you export your image you made in aseprite or gimp or whatever into Minecraft then the pixels get converted to the nearest color on the palette

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to avoid that you just use the colors on the palette ;p

limber knotBOT
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I guess you can dither it in gimp directly

austere ivy
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here's the source code for anyone who wants it, it's not very good lol

limber knotBOT
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still a bit more annoying as you have to re-do all images each minecraft update

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that's why I opted for just doing it automatically in a plugin and store the real, full color images

austere ivy
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hm that's a good point

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I'm just not skilled enough to dither ;p

limber knotBOT
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DitherLib works quite well

austere ivy
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Also is there any way to simplify this?

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for component in base_color:
    component = int(component)
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I tried for int(component) in base_color: but that doesn't work.

olive marlin
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You can map it or use comprehension.

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for component in (int(c) for c in base_color):
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Is it more readable - that's questionable.

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Also functional version:

for component in map(int, base_color) :
limber knotBOT
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TIL that calc(100vw - 200px) actually works in CSS now Oo

umbral parrot
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bad practice though

limber knotBOT
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ lets me center stuff fast

umbral parrot
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learn flexbox pepega

limber knotBOT
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I know that that's a think but I tried that first and it didn't work instantly and this does so idc lol

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I'm the only one who's ever going to see this (probably)

umbral parrot
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then you can just do

.center-container {
  display: flex;
  width: 100%;
  height: 100%;
}

.centered-component {
  margin: auto;
}
limber knotBOT
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what if I have <outer><div></div><div></div></outer> and want the inner ones aligned as columns

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tried that with flex and it fucked up everything, lol

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now I just position it relative with inline-boxes and it just works

umbral parrot
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like aligned in a row?

limber knotBOT
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no, they should all be veritcal columns

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like | | |

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I mean I know I can do that with margin: auto and wrapping the outer one into another container

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but that requires another outer container, lol

austere ivy
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theoretically, if I forked Paper, and I changed translateAlternateColorCodes to translate &#rrggbb instead of &x&r&r&g&g&b&b then would all plugins that use translateAlternateColorCodes support &#rrggbb?

umbral parrot
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.center-container {
  display: flex;
  width: 100%;
  height: 100%;
  justify-content: space-between;
}
.centered-component {
  height: 100%;
}

Not entirely sure on what you mean though

limber knotBOT
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don't worry, my way works just fine :)

umbral parrot
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aight, flexbox vey nice though

limber knotBOT
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T​eh​Br​ia​n: you would have to translate &#rrggbb to §x§r§r§g§g§b§b

tawdry sapphire
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hello everyone 😄

waxen panther
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hello

tawdry sapphire
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how are you?

waxen panther
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I am

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swell

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how are you

austere ivy
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phoenix616: that's a cost worth paying

tired ice
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so i want to delete all overworld chunks outside a certain area around spawn so they can regen with the new stuff, any ideas on how i can do that?

pulsar fox
magic river
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Someone tried to send me a scam credit report warning from an email @ayylmao.space

tired ice
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ah that is perfect thank you

hushed pebble
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Oh thats nice

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Is this tool made for juge deletions ?

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huge*

tired ice
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wow thats actually amazing tysm

magic river
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Deleting chunks and regions isn't a very hard problem

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I mean, you'd have to work at it to make it slow

pulsar fox
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@hushed pebble yes, if you zoom out far enough it just deletes entire regions instead of chunks lol

magic river
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I'd be more worried about the perf of its top down rendering of your world than about the deleting part 😛

tired ice
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you should see my dynmap 🙄

pulsar fox
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and if you are really worried about that just use the headless mode lol

hushed pebble
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I was wondering for performances

magic river
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It doesn't even need to actually delete the chunk data, does it? Can't it just mark the sections in the region file as unused?

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Even if it does delete the actual data it should go as fast as you can write to your drive but it probably doesn't need to so it'll just be updating a few indices and deleting whole region files where it can (which is basically free, the OS also just marks the space as empty and doesn't actually delete)

tawdry sapphire
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doing good thanks for asking!

pulsar wigeon
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yea you can just write to the region header

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the regionfile handling in MC will "reclaim" unused space

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ie it will just write new chunks to the unused blocks later

static badge
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you can do what worldedit does

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and not give a fuck about regionfiles currently in use by the server

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, WE doesn't touch regionfiles while the server has worlds loaded

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so, no

magic river
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It needs to receive several

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The packet that actually makes the screen go away is the teleport one (aka player position and look)

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But I believe you need to send them 9 chunks in a 3x3 centered on them as well or the client either refuses all inputs or doesn't leave that screen

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the wiki used to explain all this...

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It was a part of the documented login process, it took you through all the packets to/from and what order were needed to get the client in game

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Yeah but at the end it just says "switches to Play" and good luck, I guess

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It used to go all the way up to client drawing blocks and letting you walk around

smoky python
magic river
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Looks like you need 49 chunks and more than just the chunks and that one teleport packet

smoky python
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Guys i am rich

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i got that one too, nick!

smoky python
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LoL

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We are both millionaires 🙌

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contact him then zbk

slim nymph
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email him back and ask why he didnt spend some of those billions on using his real email provider to get encrypted email

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the answer is clear, he exploits anything from humans to free email services to minimalise expenses!

warm anchor
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Wow you are rich now

smoky python
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Aikar ur just jealous

slim nymph
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i think your confuising him with trump

warm anchor
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Can I have some Krappa

void void
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hm my spam is mostly free vouchers, bitcoin, prizes and the usual weird stuff

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all i know is i don't want to click on any of them