you gotta have a strong meme game
#general
fallen oracle
Isn't it like Monday or something? It's time for work, time to be productive.
waxen panther
mine are like 90 emotes, 10 actual servers, with 3 of them being servers i talk in
pulsar fox
@twin lagoon Join the-eye discord where we ping 25k people 4 times a week 
left swift
Oml
vernal moth
Barty just stop please
twin lagoon
i counted them
woven otter
wiz is mean 😭
twin lagoon
49 @quasi valley
twin lagoon
no wait
umbral parrot
we need pepe_sleep
twin lagoon
i forgot my own ones
umbral parrot
michael
twin lagoon
depends on the day
waxen panther
pulsar fox
waxen panther
finite wave
twin lagoon
fallen oracle
pulsar fox
lol
left swift
Yes I too like to have 30 variants of the same emote
pulsar fox
when I legit have like 34 unread pings on the-eye
twin lagoon
is the-eye still slow as fuck
acoustic granite
Lol
fallen oracle
I haven't seen a ping there in awhile, I might've turned it off.
acoustic granite
How about that new inbox feature?
Anyone using that yet?
"Mark as read. Mark as read. Mark as read. Dammit. They keep coming!"
pulsar fox
shouldn't be slow but larger downloads will randomly fail when the nic drops packets
pulsar fox
ye the nic is still fucked
pulsar fox
new hardware online soon™️
fallen oracle
™️
real kestrel
How is the papermc progress for being stable for 1.16?
twin lagoon
give it a try
left swift
Yes
heady spear
i ping glare sometimes to remind him that i exist
real kestrel
i did caused alot of errors so came back to 15.2 and thoiught i would see if you guys make more progreess
heady spear
otherwise he might forget and get another ebf
quasi valley
but do you really?
pulsar fox
https://s.56k.pw/a/G6zND5d.png
still pushing 8gbps though lol
twin lagoon
@pulsar fox so have you tried archiving it in ipfs?
i'm sure someone mentioned it already in the eye discord
pulsar fox
pulsar fox
umbral parrot
he did that to me too
he kept asking for an invite, joined, said it was shit and left 
within around 5 seconds
twin lagoon
i only join the best discords
stray oyster
Discord be like; hol up just a second; you’re about to ping over 3000 people are you sure you want to continue?
More accurately; hol up you’re about to ping 800 bots 400 second accounts 50 actually active people and annoy the rest of the people that forgot this server existed or is in their server list
pulsar wigeon
pinging everyone is a good way to get rid of inactive users 
pulsar wigeon
usually get a few hundred leaves when you do that
pulsar fox
nah, for us people just complain and post memes
void void
do a few @ everyones over a few days and the server will prune itself off people
pulsar fox
we did just prune inactives, went from 25k to 20k...now already almost back up to 21k lol
pulsar fox
We like being honest, plus it also helps out Dyno a bit
twin lagoon
dyno is so bad
pulsar fox
lord knows it needs as much help as it can get
smoky python
Anyone know what disto this is?
heady spear
ThE ApI sTruGgLeS aFtEr 10k
smoky python
That one looks so beautiful
limber knotBOT
I mean it's nano... so probably debian based
shell is most likely zsh with a custom theme + some plugin
pulsar fox
we have to put in support tickets with them like 5 times a week lol
limber knotBOT
or some other "cool" shell
smoky python
Thanks guys 🙂
twin lagoon
we replaced dyno with warship (the one active in LinusTechTips discords) a month ago or so
10/10 stuff
private bot but if you're interested jake can get you set up
pulsar fox
Can it do most of what Dyno does?
twin lagoon
for us we only care about moderation & uptime
pulsar fox
We use it primarily for moderation, logging, and ranks
twin lagoon
ok for ranks you'd have to stick to dyno
moderation & logging warship can handle nicely
pulsar fox
oh, well ranks is the part dyno has the most trouble with
it randomly gets desynced an people stop accruing points
then we have to put in a ticket and they kick the mongodb or something and it fixes it
limber knotBOT
mongodb 👀
pulsar fox
memedb
umbral parrot
why do people love mongo so much, I don't understand it
fallen oracle
Since when the heck was ALT + L a keybind in Minecraft 👀
void void
wut
fallen oracle
waxen panther
hipsters will use any db with a fancy name
cedar spade
Isn't it just L by default?
fallen oracle
I've never modified my keybinds before.
limber knotBOT
or L I guess 
fallen oracle
Ahh yeah it works with L too.
pulsar wigeon
yea it's L by default
which happens to have been worldedit's reference card gui for the forge mod
kek
smoky python
why do people love mongo so much, I don't understand it
You are missing out
I love Mongodb
vernal moth
Mongo is for lazy ppl who don't understand relational databases
smoky python
I've heard about postgres
twin lagoon
postgressql is literally best of both worlds
you get proper SQL
and you have the ability to get json document stuff
like mongodb
smoky python
oo
vernal moth
No
vernal moth
At least use Maria
smoky python
Should look into that tbh
finite wave
Maria does not like to be used, she is a human too
smoky python
I use databased so much, but I actually never spend time into it
Guess thats why my love for Mongodb
vernal moth
Again
smoky python
Yup
vernal moth
Mongo is for lazy ppl who don't understand relational databases
@vernal moth ^
smoky python
Well, I know what I gonna do tmrw
finite wave
I use MariaDB cause i want to use mysql but i will get yelled at if i don't atleast use mariadb.
vernal moth
Postgre is clearly superior to any other sql db
We migrating at work right now
Which is fun
Cause we have tables with billions of entries
finite wave
microosooft
smoky python
Are ORMs bad?
waxen panther
bajillion
vernal moth
So when I mean right now, I mean since 2 years
Are ORM's bad?
@smoky python meh, really depends
green turret
The mapping challenge is hard, so ORMs are hard. It's a leaky abstraction.
vernal moth
Generally you want to be in control how your tables and queries look like
Most orms allow you that kinda ok
But you can't just design some java dtos and throw them at a orm and expect to get a good database layout
You need to design your data structure with the DB in mind
green turret
Hence why the abstraction is leaky.
ancient bolt
You also can't trust that the ORM is going to generate the most optimal queries either
when performance is too tight you often have to drop down to writing them directly yourself - further removing the abstraction
green turret
I think the biggest issue with ORMs is that they make promises of "ease of use" and "same language as you're already working with", but at the end of the day, if your data or your access patterns are just a little bit complex, you have to dig into and really understand what the ORM is gonna do. So people often end up trying to figure out how to get the ORM to write the query or the layout that they know how to write manually.
ancient bolt
I much prefer an object mapper, but nothing more
let me write the query, just give me a library to map query results to objects
this is my favorite https://jdbi.org/
green turret
Yes!
waxen panther
idb 
green turret
JDBI removes most of what is annoying with JDBC and leaves you with something a bit simpler but still close to the database.
smoky python
Guess I go for something like that. It will improve my knowledge too
vernal moth
I use hibernate, since that's in spring, and I don't need to manage big stuff anyways
ancient bolt
I wrote basically the equivalent of jdbi from scratch at a company I worked for a couple years ago. was really fun
green turret
Yeah Hibernate is pretty horrible.
vernal moth
Just some stuff for our printing jobs, some temp context storage, some short urls
I don't think any of those tables will have more than 1k entires
tall goblet
What jdk version is best for running a paper server? Which are running best, or does it not matter?
I hava a low powered eco friendly pc.
green turret
Is it solar powered?
tall goblet
what make you think this way. it consumes less power
green turret
Hmm, how big a solar panel would you need to power a gaming PC?
oak mortar
My home power is "Solar powered" meaning that the power company is enforced by law to invest every penny they earn from me into solar power.
green turret
Mathemagical!
latent valve
bruh
spice finch
WTF
cedar spade
IRC never forgets
smoky python
Amen
heavy jetty
Anyone here experienced with creating discord webhooks? Github says that everything's being delivered successfully, but nothing's showing up on Discord
oak mortar
The wiz is a lot sexier than I thought... (trying to make light of this situation)
green turret
What happened? I am dumcord
tall goblet
What jdk version is best for running a paper server? Which are running best, or does it not matter?
I hava a low powered eco friendly pc.
I thought this was a basic easy to answere question.
twin lagoon
11
smoky python
its easy
quasi valley
14
green turret
6
umbral parrot
21
heavy jetty
Not sure, it says everything's successful but it's clearly not
olive marlin
42
smoky python
just add /github at the end of the webhook url
spice finch
go with trend, jdk8 > *
smoky python
Ew
twin lagoon
wat
cedar spade
garbagemule
green turret
It's not so much about whether or not it's easy to answer. It's just that it's more interesting to find out how many solar panels to drive a gaming PC.
quasi valley
jdk 8 
finite wave
🧿
cedar spade
dalvik or bust
smoky python
tall goblet
I've already installed jdk 8. I will keep that way I guess
finite wave
smoky python
Delete him
green turret
🚮 🐎
heavy jetty
oh... I guess that worked, thanks Nick
spice finch
man
green turret
I love it!
spice finch
but I was joking
quasi valley
hatrez, at least update to 11
smoky python
Np @heavy jetty
tall goblet
hatrez, at least update to 11
@quasi valley
Ok, will do. Thank you!
green turret
It looks like 3 or 4 "domestic solar panels" would be enough to drive a gaming PC, according to "the eco experts". Assuming the sun is out while gaming I guess.
umbral parrot
wanted solar panels but my roof has like 12 sides
heavy jetty
Is there a way to make it send an update when a project is moved from one column of a project (e.g. Development/Backlog) to another column (e.g. Development/In Progress)
I have it set to send everything, but nothing's getting sent when I do that
waxen panther
I don't think the projects tab has any related webhooks
heavy jetty
aww alright ty
finite wave
That thing is still alive?
umbral parrot
look at how scuffed my roof is https://img.legendeffects.co.uk/Xc5Or
thats a new shape in itself
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.quora.com/How-many-houses-are-there-in-the-world -- How many houses are there in the world? - Quora: "A lot, there's about 7.5 billion people in the world many of them live in cities so they may live in an apartment, condo, duplex, etc. and the others..."
smoky python
That didn't answer my question
wicked sail
is there a way to change the name color?
woven otter
.wa How many houses are there in the world?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
woven otter
:C
smoky python
There are no houses
woven otter
.wa Why are you running?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
finite wave
.g How many houses are there on our earth.
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://theconversation.com/the-world-needs-to-build-more-than-two-billion-new-homes-over-the-next-80-years-91794 -- The world needs to build more than two billion new homes...: "Feb 28, 2018 ... By the end of this century the world's population will have increased by half, ... changes has been the rise in one and two-person..."
woven otter
Okay it's pissing me off
green turret
It's at least 7 houses
woven otter
ancient bolt
@green turret is a mathematician confirmed
smoky python
It's at least 7 houses
Facts
green turret
Mathemagician* !
smoky python
I wish I was able to answer my math test like that
How much is 55*58 = At least more than 100
green turret
"The important thing here is that it's probably more than plenty."
umbral parrot
First - define the "developed world". For purposes of this discussion, I will assume it is the top 1/3 of the world. So, let's say approximate 2.5 billion people live in the developed world.
Now, estimate the number of people that live in a family unit - With the average family size of 4 persons, then note that only 1/3 or so will have all of their children at home and that some are single (etc), lets say that there is approximately 2.5 people per dwelling. So now we have about 1 billion dwellings.
Now, estimate how many of those are "houses" (as opposed to apartments, etc) - looking at just the USA, that is about 90%, and it seems fairly representative of the developed world, so let's go with 900,000,000 houses in the developed world
So I was right.
smoky python
Yes... But no
green turret
My answer even takes into account the rest of the world.
smoky python
Actually your answer is the most accurate one
Animals have houses too
That website didn't even include those
ancient bolt
I think the most accurate way to answer this questions is to first define what a house is. If we make the definition of a house specific enough we can assume that only one such house exists
In fact, due to the fluctuations of quantum mechanics one could argue that no houses can actually exist to meet such a specific definition
smoky python
Everything that is made by a living entity and has a place to sleep is a house
void void
so a random hole an ant made is a house?
void void
.g how many ants are there
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29281253 -- Are all the ants as heavy as all the humans? - BBC News: "Sep 22, 2014 ... But no-one knows how many ants there are in the world. The BBC Four documentary claims they number not 10,000 trillion but 100..."
latent valve
Ant will take over the world
void void
ok it's settled, there are at least 10,000 trillion hourses on earth then
smoky python
.g how many snails are there
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.snail-world.com/ -- Snail Facts and Information: "There are many types of snails, but they fundamentally differ because they are aquatic or terrestrial. The former are adapted to live in the sea or..."
smoky python
.g how many snails do exist?
void void
.wa snails on earth
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.snail-world.com/ -- Snail Facts and Information: "It does not last as long as it may seem. While moving, snails leave behind a trail of slime, a lubricant they produce to allow them to go on any..."
(DiscordBot) No results.
void void
hm
smoky python
.g how many snails are in the world
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.snail-world.com/ -- Snail Facts and Information: "There are many types of snails, but they fundamentally differ because they are aquatic or terrestrial. The former are adapted to live in the sea or..."
smoky python
Okay 60k
pulsar wigeon
pls stop bot abuse
lament patio
r/botsrights
pulsar wigeon
this isn't your personal google spam channel
lament patio
Bots are people, too
woven otter
it should be
serene bolt
"Avast Password Manager" wonderful antivirus bloatware you have there
smoky python
😠
void void
avast bloatware
smoky python
U don't know what else I should use as anti virus
void void
mcaffee!?
smoky python
Thats even worse than Avast
void void
exactly
lament patio
I had a friend who bought McAfee premium
void void
i like bitdefender
smoky python
You meant your ex-friend
void void
or linux 
lament patio
I had
serene bolt
I've used Nod32 for like 15 years now, it's the only AV that doesn't slow everything down considerably when compiling / doing dev work for me.
fallen oracle
If you are a student, you can apply for Malwarebytes Premium licenses for 4 years and it only costs $5.
smoky python
ooh, thats intresting
void void
When launching a Minecraft server, what specs of the CPU is important? Base Frequency?
twin lagoon
real men just deactive defender
smoky python
WOW
twin lagoon
bech that's the last thing from being important
void void
Really?
Aren't you supposed to have a really high Frequency pr. core beacuse minecraft servers are single threaded?
void void
@twin lagoon What is then important? lulw
twin lagoon
IPC
serene bolt
IPC
void void
and what is a good value for that?
void void
From my experience, paper 1.16.1 is pretty stable
smoky python
intel xeon dual
twin lagoon
probably
smoky python
Just get the server Linux used for his MC server
serene bolt
Linux
void void
Linus you mean?
That’s overkill
Especially for the version they are running, 1.12
@twin lagoon Where can I read more about IPC on processors? Like I looked at this one, on a server but I can't seem to find any stats related to IPC.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/52585/intel-core-i7-990x-processor-extreme-edition-12m-cache-3-46-ghz-6-40-gt-s-intel-qpi.html
Dual i9
No
Ryzen 3 3300X does the job too
And it’s cheaper
oh.
nowhere
serene bolt
homehosting minecraft servers 
smoky python
void void
I thought he was talking about > homehosting minecraft servers :monkaS:
@serene bolt it’s possible and I do it
Internet in the Netherlands is excellent
Over fiber and such
serene bolt
well no shit it's possible, it's just not generally a good idea
finite wave
I get more proper redundancy from ovh
void void
2014? 
void void
twin lagoon
probably bad
serene bolt
4790K is like the only pre 2016 CPU I can think of that's still decent for MC servers
void void
but I guess all CPU's too old
twin lagoon
both of those lineups are cheap
void void
@twin lagoon 2011 too old? XD
@void void I run on a i5 650 and it works fine
It’s even older xd
twin lagoon
and at how many players
twin lagoon
at how many players & how playable is it @void void
smoky python
If you don't have a budget just get an Aternos server
serene bolt
i5 650.... for MC server hosting... uhhh....
twin lagoon
because i doubt you're getting a decent chunk view distance
and normal tick rates for everything / spawn rates
nimble hill
void void
@twin lagoon Whats the difference between AX and EX?
twin lagoon
the specifications...?
void void
Yes, but in terms of performance.
twin lagoon
ax is better
void void
like its the same price
haughty bear
uh why is mysql bad?
void void
so i was wondering, what would get me the furthest
haughty bear
ok
void void
at how many players & how playable is it @void void
@twin lagoon 20tps, 5 players max xD. Tho to be fair, my Athlon XII 250 could handle that too with 1.14
void void
My goal for when the server opens is around 20 players at once
a raspberry pi can handle 5 players
@twin lagoon not with all 5 people generating chunks at once
smoky python
Kinda depends what for gamemode type it is
vernal moth
Mfw Trump was banned from twitch
void void
survival
smoky python
Then get a good processor or whatever they recommend you because you will need it
You don't want your server to lagg to its death because 5 people are exploring the world
and the rest of the people are not able to login
true canyon
quartz peak
.Intelli
true canyon
nobodies buisness got harmed by it
void void
You don't want your server to lagg to its death because 5 people are exploring the world
@smoky python it can handle it so no lol
If the server lags and has issues then I might replace it
umbral parrot
ehhh but that aint true though is it https://img.legendeffects.co.uk/vwF6p
void void
Bandwidth is not an issue tho, neither is ping: 250/250Mbps over optic fiber
umbral parrot
if I was able to do it then others have too
vernal moth
Am so done with all of spigot
vernal moth
Yes
waxen panther
mds essay really pissed me off
quartz peak
be better off getting a ryzen 3400g (that has a integrated gpu) than using a rasberry pi for a server
waxen panther
well yea..
void void
be better off getting a ryzen 3400g (that has a integrated gpu) than using a rasberry pi for a server
@quartz peak or just use your old intel desktop from 10y ago
quartz peak
that works too lol
void void
It’s free, try it, and if it’s not broke don’t fix it
Because that’s a waste of precious money
quasi valley
bardy is the only person that could need 3 separate pr attempts to edit a readme https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3699
crystal compass
any multi-world plugins updated to 1.16 yet?
void void
Use waterfall instead
quartz peak
or if you are ballsy enough to do it make a cluster cloud of rasberry pi computers XD
waxen panther
even his pr is annoying to read lol
void void
or if you are ballsy enough to do it make a cluster cloud of rasberry pi computers XD
@quartz peak id rather finish my arcade after getting dusty for 2 years
wind skiff
Hey. I need help with Paper 1.16.2. Where would I go for that?
quasi valley
into the future
smoky python
@vernal moth Don't be sad here is a coupon for 73% off the best available spigot course https://memeacademy.org/referral/6sq5d4f
waxen panther
omg lmao
quartz peak
lol
quasi valley
LOL
spiral garden
oh are we talking about meme academy again
quasi valley
LMAO
finite wave
What is the fix lighting cmd again?
quasi valley
I didn't even see that haha
void void
./paper fixlight
waxen panther
do you think he knows you can update prs instead of making new ones
stray oyster
Don’t do GitHub desktop kids
quasi valley
or that he himself can do that
cunning raft
idk i think he "nailed it"
waxen panther
waxen panther
it's been a fuckin week dude
spiral garden
on another note, that gProtector guy finally managed to rip off my protocollib-less code for packets
waxen panther
chill out and go look
crystal compass
boi
stray oyster
I don’t think you actually need a plugin for that other than to load the worlds at all
👀
crystal compass
you think i'd be asking if I didn't look 👀
waxen panther
Seems like you've already got your answer then
cunning raft
NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT YOUR MULTI WORLD PLUGINS
waxen panther
why bother us
cunning raft
STOP ASKING
stray oyster
My 1.16 paper server has multi worlds without a designated plugin 👀
waxen panther
what a brave soul
smoky python
Internet rule 34.3 & 35.3 & 29 & 30 are so true
cunning raft
M 
DS CLEAN UP THE MESS 
spiral garden
god bless innovation
true canyon
waxen panther
cunning raft
waxen panther
what are those screenshots from donotspam ?
crystal compass
WDL
waxen panther
the code ones
smoky python
An white IDE
spiral garden
my plugin's code compared to another one called "gProtector"
which is supposedly "better"
waxen panther
ah lmfao
cedar spade
lol wiz
spiral garden
by adding some hacked clients which will definitely not change their brand as soon as they find out
and 300% more errors
crystal compass
It's probably your white IDE skin
waxen panther
sam wtf are you talking about
spiral garden
i don't like Intelli's dark theme
waxen panther
lol isn't that the fucking green one
crystal compass
one sec
spiral garden
all the colors are kind of washed out on the dark theme, I don't like that
waxen panther
man hating on white themes while using a green one 
pulsar wigeon
are we doing the kangarko thing again here today
waxen panther
the material dark themes are more legible
proven lily
whats wrong with kangarko
smoky python
ew
waxen panther
I use a light theme at work though, much easier to read in sunlight
spiral garden
^
limber knotBOT
I don't like your theme either DoNotSpamPls
spiral garden
i should have expected that coming
waxen panther
no
waxen panther
when im at work i can't just move into the shade lol
crystal compass
I keep my monitor on eye saver permanently though, headaches
That light be yellowish
spiral garden
y'know, I'm not even mad that this guy is ripping off code 1:1, just disappointed - some of the features are a pain in the arse to implement properly
vernal moth
Mfw I just want to go to sleep this this day has been a mess on so many levels
spiral garden
and he is just like "yeah this is mine now"
vernal moth
And I get called by a friend and she forces to leave the house
crystal compass
What is the best light theme?
smoky python
The normal one?
crystal compass
intellij light
limber knotBOT
eclipse colors, IntelliJ default themes are ew
limber knotBOT
i use visual studio for dark, eclipse for light
spiral garden
i'm just going to leave this here
if (getPlugin().getServer().getPluginManager().getPlugins().toString().contains("ProtocolLib")) {
gMain.log.info(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "&5[TIP] &7Since version 2.2, the use of ProtocolLib isn't necessary to run gProtector."));
}
lmaoo
quasi valley
LOL
limber knotBOT
lol lemme hop on discord real quick
crystal compass
gMain.log.info(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "&5[TIP] &7Since version 2.2, the use of ProtocolLib isn't necessary to run gProtector."));
crystal compass
What theme is that
spiral garden
he could have just used if (getServer().getPluginManager().getPlugin("ProtocolLib") != null)
but that is too hard apparently
crystal compass
or just skip that entirely
spiral garden
^
crystal compass
holy shit
what
oh
Which plugin are you using?
Ah
I've had some good success with that, but others say worldborder is better
idk
crystal compass
..
quasi valley
donotspam: https://i.imgur.com/44JVO7y.png
rare herald
😂
crystal compass
if(isRipOffOfEzProtector(this){ logger.info("get fucked"); }
smoky python
Bet that gProtector has something like this; https://i.imgur.com/NzQWZI7.png
twin lagoon
oh my fucking god
quasi valley
lmao
twin lagoon
#paper-github is just filled with bombardy
stray oyster
twin lagoon
mighty storm
geez @rare herald didnt have to bless us with that giant changelog ❤️
why'd we go from 2.x to 19.x lol
stray oyster
Now where is that screenshot
crystal compass
ow
limber knotBOT
Dropped the 2 😬
crystal compass
gg's on the coreprotect update
rare herald
Thanks
mighty storm
yeah looks awesome, ill try it out in a bit
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coreprotect open source when
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no
smoky python
Omg it is not
bruhh
Why is that
Incase someone griefs the code? And you can't rollback it anymore?
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because freemium bad gpl stupid
quasi valley
@twin lagoon that's not a bruh moment, that's a bruh life
twin lagoon
an epic bruh moment*
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tf do u mean "grief the code" tho
smoky python
It was a joke lmao
waxen panther
phew
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just dont accept prs which change the history lol
void void
kekw
twin lagoon
yeet
rare herald
To re-post a comment of mine from yesterday:
Source code is already available to everyone who volunteered to help cleanup the code for OS release. The new update is utilizing the new codebase, which is an exciting step forward. However, there’s still quite a bit of work that needs to be done to meet the release roadmap (including multi-language support).
But there’s certainly no rush, and our contributors are free to take things at their own pace. If you’d like to speed things up, you’re more than welcome to contribute yourself.
void void
you don't get it
rare herald
Info has been in the announcements channel on our Discord server, but if you're interesting in contributing the refactor, you can shoot me a PM.
woven otter
kang kang kang
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only thing i see in the announcements is how to pay money
i call any user of it a customer as with any other plugin 
"downloader" just doesnt have the same ring to it
crystal compass
hm
tawdry coyote
i call the people that download my plugins, "victims"
spiral garden
@quasi valley yeah I saw that - to those people I would say "PR or shut up"
it's not like there are any blocking operations anyway
quartz cloak
My server just updated to paper 1.16.1 and when I tried to break bedrock it didn't work. It worked fine on a singleplayer world. Anyone else having this issue?
smoky python
Your single player world is probably broke
void void
bedrock breaking is patched iirc
upper flicker
no
singleplayer world is fine
allow-perm-block-break-exploits: false
flip to true and restart
quartz cloak
Thanks!
void void
cosmic raft
public enum MuchBetterBoolean { Ya, Nah }
Yope, Nope
smoky python
actually, sometimes I can't choose
public enum MuchBetterBoolean { Yes, Maybe, No }```public enum MuchBetterBoolean { Ya("1"), Nah("0") // TODO stuff}
void void
whats good clock speed for minecraft?
smoky python
20 * 60 seconds
void void
holy crap
wide chasm
wut
cunning raft
Locked & Limited 🔫 
true canyon
Pinged you on behalf of voice chat.
finite wave
Oh it was only on 1.16
heady spear
they explained that one of the reasons was the amount of chargebacks that were generated
this moron is serious, yikes
who have I not called a moron today
it's starting to lose meaning
finite wave
Someone gonna comment on the space here? https://i.imgur.com/icAmu6g.png
heady spear
ohi ur here lol
potent fossil
what in the world did i miss
pastel galleon
Stad it may seem like a joke or something like that. but the guy on the phone at paypal was not joking, neither are the people that had their account shutdown already
pulsar wigeon
is this for real lmao
doesn't spigot's premium resources directly interact with the paypal api to do transactions
wouldn't that er...
wide chasm
That would be an interesting turn of events
finite wave
PaymentWall incoming
pulsar wigeon
but if paypal doesn't want to deal with all the chargebacks and shit and just shuts this down lmao
woven otter
interesting 
smoky python
Soon we will all be using paysafecards
rare herald
I wouldn't take the word of a PayPal phone support agent to mean much lol
cedar spade
is spigot really problematic enough for them to bother?
pulsar wigeon
that's honestly quite hard to believe no offense
wide chasm
Sounds like a stupid move on PayPal's part, but it's PayPal.
pulsar wigeon
idk who mechy is and idk who he talked to but that would be quite something really
heady spear
the only thing I know they straight out ban is porn
cedar spade
I doubt it's actual policy, probably someone confusing support staff
wide chasm
I'm going with the garbage support route as well
green turret
Hello
woven otter
what porn
wide chasm
Hi garbagemule
woven otter
is that prohibited
green turret
garbage support, how can I help?
heady spear
yes, paypal doesn't allow that apparently
warm anchor
PayPal has support? Since when
woven otter
what about onlyfans
smoky python
Oooo
heady spear
onlyfans is just cc too I think?
rare herald
PayPal support doesn't know shit
woven otter
😭
warm anchor
This discord offers better support than PayPal ever did
cedar spade
hello wastepaperbaskethorse
woven otter
what if I wanted to pay to see belle's nudes
wide chasm
Hi garbage, could you please tell paypal that they're garbage, thank you.
green turret
Hahahahha
smoky python
Fuck money, I trade stones
heady spear
@woven otter just give them your card details
smoky python
And ducks
heady spear
ez pz
finite wave
Ehm
pulsar wigeon
duck would download bathwater
smoky python
I'll just imaginate then
green turret
Dear Notch, why can't I pay for Spigot plugins for my Paper server with PayPal? Yours truly, kangarko
pulsar wigeon
it's always been his dream to be a rubber duck in z's bathtub
waxen panther
general too lewd (another siren emote redacted due to over emote complaints)
woven otter
@heady spear https://i.imgur.com/foQ8tiq.png
heady spear
o
umbral parrot
smoky python
Wtf put a password on it
void void
um
heady spear
i mean belle is pretty hot
finite wave
Keep this in the fanclub city
twin lagoon
bombardy-github
woven otter
it's always been his dream to be a rubber duck in z's bathtub
z doesn't love me anymore
😭
umbral parrot
took him 4 prs and multiple retries to add 17 lines.
wide chasm
Well, to be fair, the one time I contributed to Paper with an addition of 20 characters it took me 5 attempts, so...
void void
i mean i know he said "new to github", but thats just ridiculous
quasi valley
@spiral garden https://i.imgur.com/HlYr0aH.png
pulsar wigeon
clearly u suk too stef
quasi valley
I'd love to just respond "mine are open source =^]"
marsh sequoia
Yoh
umbral parrot
marsh sequoia
Can u not break bedrock in PaperMC?
median crane
who is that
marsh sequoia
In survival that is
pulsar wigeon
"Hi,
Since you are new to the Java and Bukkit ecosystem, I'll save you the trouble of decompiling my plugins. Here is my github where you can see all the source code: ..."
".. I hope you can learn something by reading it."
quasi valley
woven otter
void void
how tf did it take him that long to PR 17 lines
olive marlin
@marsh sequoia you can disable the fix for bedrock breaking. Search for perm block exploit.
wide chasm
Well, you're not wrong wiz 🙂
pulsar wigeon
ik :^)
chrome scroll
quartz peak
Yo found an error with paper when using nether portal in creative mode https://pastebin.com/aUPCSuK0
woven otter
let's see if it actually affects spigot
quick pasture
@quartz peak MapLike errors are vanilla
kindred storm
no way
spiral garden
@quasi valley eZP is licensed under the GPL, so he is legally obliged to provide the source code under the same license
spiral garden
but thats too hard a concept :^)
median crystal
Is it true that PayPal no longer supports payments to Minecraft Mods/Plugins?
wide chasm
It's Songoda I'm doubting everything tbh
wide chasm
But, like, check the ToS I suppose
twin lagoon
everything they post is bullshit
woven otter
more drama after kang
median crystal
What do you mean Michael?
twin lagoon
songoda has done plenty of harmful things
their plugins shouldn't be used
nor should they be trusted
quartz peak
I just delete world_nether to get the new nether right?
wide chasm
Yep TnStriker
quartz peak
ight ty
wide chasm
Make sure that your players are out of the nether though
quartz peak
hmmm well time to dm them lol
twin lagoon
@median crystal not going into full details here but it basically comes down to being manipulative and trying to get things done by sending nudes & self-harm to underage
their plugins run horribly aswell
true canyon
That's an unnecessary remark.
median crystal
hahaha
wide chasm
If we could leave it at that, that'd be great.
smoky python
😂
marsh sequoia
Yea it's me @magic mesa lmao
magic mesa
Hey, didn't expect you to be here
smoky python
I respect stef
marsh sequoia
lmao
smoky python
He is a professional welcomer
true canyon
My suspicion is songoda got banned from paypal and is reframing the situation
worn ember
me: blacklists lava
my plugin: the floor is lava
latent valve
@minor badge get ignoredddd
pulsar wigeon
.-.
latent valve
void void
ping
worn ember
everyone is always "why is wiz banning me"
But no one is ever: how is wiz doing 
void void
i though proxi was a taco hater
latent valve
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@latent valve i det minste er jeg ikke svensk :)
void void
now she likes it?
warm anchor
#wizjanyLifeMatters
pulsar wigeon
she is the biggest taco fan :^)
latent valve
Kek
smoky python
Wiz will never ban me because I post cat pics
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i ate tacos today actually
worn ember
betrayal
smoky python
I keep #adorable-pets active
void void
lo
pulsar wigeon
yea idgaf about your cat pics tbh
smoky python
WTF
warm anchor
Lol
smoky python
U monster
warm anchor
Savage
quasi valley
sassy
void void
wasn't it michael who was keeping it alive before
void void
revolution!
smoky python
He doesn't know that, I would like keeping it that way
void void
quick delete your messages
vestal jasper
Some day I'll have pur back
void void
why do you not have it
vestal jasper
Idk. Kash gave me it once and ig my cat pics at the time were low quality
void void
sup jimbos
latent valve
F
woven otter
it gets interesting
void void
wat
twin lagoon
good
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fucking bout time
haughty bear
wait, can someone explain what happened?
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all people selling plugins can tbh
haughty bear
I'm curious
median crystal
GC
twin lagoon
yes
median crystal
GC did post it
woven otter
some guy on that songodacancer
median crystal
The author of AdvancedEnchantments
pulsar wigeon
wonder if they'll start hitting random people on spigot resources unaffiliated with songoda?
that seems like a pretty targeted message
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/LcQj2iE.png
will this get me banned
green turret
The wording is a little weird. "Minecraft plugins are associated with songoda".
latent valve
void void
yeah that part confused me
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it probably violates the #1 rule of acceptable policies tbh :>
green turret
Yeah I hope so too. Fuck if I'll be associated with songoda for making a plugin.
haughty bear
so you can't sell premium plugins through paypal?
pulsar wigeon
not entirely sure yet
quick pasture
dont jump to conclusions
woven otter
what's the first rule proxi
green turret
Songoda can't
pulsar wigeon
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You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
- violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation.
woven otter
too late
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wiz pls confirm
latent valve
Duck cant read what did ya expect from a duck
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thanc
quick pasture
woven otter
rude fucc
green turret
Imposter!
worn ember
thats one fat duck
woven otter
stray oyster
I hope he doesn’t chicken out on that responsibility
woven otter
wait actually
stray oyster
👀
green turret
It's a chicken-duck hybrid, also known as a chuck.
stray oyster
quasi valley
or a Dicken?
green turret
Ahahahaha
stray oyster
norris Flashbacks
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/oei2USj.png
this is a keyword.
clearly there's is nothing about minecraft plugins in the acceptable use policy
umbral parrot
"I think "Minecraft plugins" It's the name of the API, in paypal. You know, paypal admits to create your own API to your account."
from spigot
and that makes sense
worn ember
nuggets are good
worn ember
potent fossil
so wait what? paypal has banned all plugins/mods (incl spigot) or just songoda?
smoky python
🎷 Just do it
potent fossil
how about freelance
twin lagoon
seems to be just songoda
if it's just songoda no one should give a shit
that's a good thing
potent fossil
correct
cedar spade
PayPal hasn't changed their policies at all
potent fossil
then what drugs is brianna on now
serene bolt
i think the email is just badly worded, I personally think it's "any plugins associated with songoda.com" but I guess we'll see
smoky python
I mean, in theory.. It could effect every plugin that is not following the GPL right?
cedar spade
Songoda got banned by PayPal for whatever reasons, but I doubt they were banned for selling plugins