steam has a handy dandy return policy so that’s nice
#general
stiff pike
zealous wedge
i got 1000 games for $20
potent fossil
u wot
mighty storm
but they weren't steam keys just DDL
stiff pike
most of them are crap
zealous wedge
steam is not all of gaming
stiff pike
but there were some gems like celeste and night in the woods
potent fossil
right, let me just download Origin 
stiff pike
yo if you want free games just use the epic games launcher
stiff pike
free games every week
potent fossil
i only download that shit when i want that one oddball game that only distributes via Origin
stiff pike
they gave away gta v, ark, watchdogs, celeste and a bunch of other stuff in epic games store
potent fossil
yea they always giving shit away over there
btw if anyone wants No Man's Sky it's 50% off on Humble Bundle now. I know at release it earned (rightfully) a bad rap but I must say, my official review is that it's much better now and I recommend it, so if $30 (50% off) interests you and seems like a good investment, then I recommend it
stiff pike
potent fossil
Only get if you really enjoy exploring
potent fossil
VR is nice, but a little janky
potent fossil
xbox controller doesn't work in it, the ship is controlled via the hand controllers (which, yes, super cool)
stiff pike
oh you mean in nms
potent fossil
but i'd prefer to use my xbox controller. hands get tired holding them up to hold on to the throttle and stick in the ship
stiff pike
ooo sounds cool
potent fossil
yea nms
but great game
i somehow spent 90 hours in it already
still plenty to do as well
stiff pike
honestly if you’re releasing a vr game in 2020 without vr controller support you’re doing something wrong
wow 90 hours
potent fossil
i mean, i would like for them to add xbox controller support to the vr version
if they did, i'd be playing vr nms exclusively
but yeah, good shit
stiff pike
lol
potent fossil
theres crossplay, so you can play vr, save, then exit and switch to normal game and you'll be where you left off
seamless, same for switching to console from PC or vice versa
stiff pike
slick
that’s actually cool
yo unrelated note but have you guys heard of geyser mc
they’ve setup a minecraft plugin/server thing that allows cross play between minecraft java and bedrock on any server
that’s insane
unreal quarry
geyser is nice, but still too early for regular use, imho
stiff pike
really? no problems for me yet
unreal quarry
last time i tried it, console couldnt even walk up slabs without jumping lol
couldnt see ender crystals, and many other entities
stiff pike
nah probably fixed now, i’ve got quite a few bedrock players on my server
and they don’t have any problems
most bugs were spigot/paper problems
you just had to update your server
alright gtg cya dis
*guys
dapper nacelle
the new banner looks cool
rare herald
Yeah Billy, I was just playing around with it on my dev server, and it had a number of issues
I do like the idea though and Geyser does seem like one of the more promising projects at the moment
Not sure what I did wrong, but half the chunks wouldn’t even load when connecting from my phone 😬
fervent dew
Anyone have the latest Multiverse build? Their Jenkins be down...
viral hornet
Someone needs to take Intelli's table again
sharp sentinel
players are dumb is my best guess
We get reports that WorldEdit commands don't work every so often, and it's because they've full on disabled chat & commands
viral hornet
I thought there might have been a hotkey for it that people are accidentally hitting, seems there isn't.
unreal quarry
my guess is their friends/siblings changing it on them. you know, the whole "i hacked your shit" thing kids do
glad shell
Do you know if you can update 1.16.1 having a map of 1.15.2? I don't want to update the world from scratch when updating, someone please confirm me
heady spear
ur brain has permanent slow mode so ur probs used to it
glad shell
Do you know if you can update 1.16.1 having a map of 1.15.2? I don't want to update the world from scratch when updating, someone please confirm me
vestal jasper
If MiniDigger got moderator would he be minimodding all the time?
glad shell
I updated my world from papermc 1.15.2 to version papermc 1.16.1 and my world was reset and my users' survival progress was lost 😦
heady spear
👀
golden gust
logs?
glad shell
golden gust
.paste
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
golden gust
throw the contents on the paste site
golden gust
corrupted world?
glad shell
yes
1.15.2 and 1.16.1
all the progress of my users was lost 😦 I have to buy a backup of my hosting
rare herald
Lol
golden gust
well, if the region file is corrupted, it's going to regen the chunk
golden gust
if you upgraded to 1.16, then tried to run on 1.15, that would probs do it
viral hornet
I have to buy a backup of my hosting
um what
void void
glad shell
nono, try to update to 1.16.1 having the papermc 1.15.2
void void
Currently backing up everything :)
golden gust
You provided a log from 1.15 screaming about busted world data
void void
You know, without backups you are essentially screwed now :P
glad shell
Is that from the 1.16.1 tube that I change again to 1.15.2 how do I get logs when I install 1.16.1?
urban depot
Thank you so much to all the devs for doing that! The dedication is absolutely amazing!
golden gust
that I change again to 1.15.2
glad shell
😦
golden gust
If you mean you literally ran 1.15 after 1.16, yes, those loaded chunks are gone for good
viral hornet
Even if he reverted to using 1.16?
rare herald
It’s funny when people downgrade and expect nothing to go wrong
viral hornet
Why did you go backwards to begin with?
vast idol
Omg never do anything without saving a backup, ever
golden gust
the server already regenerated those chunks
rare herald
See it way too often
golden gust
mojang modifies the format saved on the disk somewhat often these days, especially as they're messing with stuff
void void
Omg never do anything without saving a backup, ever
@vast idol this. I used to take no backups, and the server crashed at one point... lesson learned from that
golden gust
they probs removed a heightmap or something
viral hornet
@void void remove it pls
void void
no
glad shell
Does this mean that you can no longer upgrade from 1.15.2 to 1.16.1 without losing loaded chunks? previously papermc from 1.14 to 1.15 did not lose loaded chunks and it worked without problems, because now it breaks the world and destroys it
void void
@viral hornet removed ;)
viral hornet
@glad shell zzzCat is saying the chunks breaking was because you went from 1.16 BACK to 1.15.2
You can't go backwards
Going from 1.15.2 -> 1.16.1 should not have corrupted your chunks, going backwards is what made them cry and explode
glad shell
but I had 1.15.2 and I wanted to update to 1.16.1
quasi valley
you said "Is that from the 1.16.1 tube that I change again to 1.15.2"
glad shell
I'll buy a backup and then I'll go back to 1.16.1 and see it break the world, and I'll give them logs to believe me
viral hornet
When you get the backup, make sure you download and store it yourself. Backup the backup
glad shell
I said that because already when going from 1.15.2 to 1.16.1 and seeing that it broke the fragments I had to put the 1.15.2 back
I do not keep backup copies since my world weighs 30GB and my internet is not good to re-upload it
Hello gianfranco
Access to our automatic backups is an optional feature on our Minecraft server plans that you did not request when purchasing your server. If you want to take advantage of backups, you will have to purchase the backup plugin. It is available in the following options depending on the number of backup days you want to have access to:
1 day backup $ 0.99 / month
2 days backup $ 1.49 / month
3 days backup $ 1.99 / month
4 days backup $ 2.49 / month
5 days of backups $ 2.99 / month
6 days of backups $ 3.49 / month
7 days of backups $ 3.99month
Once access to backups is purchased, you will be able to access backups from previous days.
Please let us know how you want to proceed.
I'll buy one day 😦 I have left
void void
boy
magic river
It's too late now though, unless they were doing backups and just not letting you restore without paying
void void
you can always take a backup from the server and dump it on your own device
viral hornet
Ah, I took your original messages as if you're paying for the backup they were already doing, my bad.
magic river
Oh yeah, rereading it that does seem to be the case
They were doing backups anyway, they charge you to access them
subtle bridge
Aight so
magic river
Hopefully anyway
subtle bridge
You know how spigot has BuildTools to update your server to the latest Spigot? Does Paper have something like that??
viral hornet
No because paper isn't stoopid
tranquil bone
viral hornet
You can just download the latest build directly from the website: https://papermc.io/downloads
subtle bridge
FFFFF
glad shell
xd
subtle bridge
Yes, I know, I know.
viral hornet
Then why did you ask 
tranquil bone
Only Camm has to use buildtools 
viral hornet
Bobcycle i'm still angry at you for griefing my house on the test server 😠
Nitro boosters should bypass it but we don't Michael 😦
twin lagoon
tis a shame
tranquil bone
I love you Camm, but it's tough love
rare herald
I mean, if you’re using the 1.16.1 builds, the devs will generally want you to be using the latest build
tranquil bone
You have to learn to build
viral hornet
tranquil bone
spice finch
Basically easier than using build tools 
latent valve
golden gust
forgot about that
vestal jasper
If you're gonna kick me for my jokes at least lmk they're bad I had a heart attack thinking I did something actually bad
golden gust
I couldn't even put into words how bad that was
latent valve
bad cat
vestal jasper
Tbf though he does prepend all his projects with Mini
latent valve
viral hornet
Vic why 😦
Someone said on voice "Oh it was Vicarious" and I said "No surely not Vic, he's not that stupid"
But it was you Vic, it was. 
vestal jasper
1.0.0, 1.0.1 (server only), 1.1, 1.2.5, 1.3.2, 1.4.7, 1.5.2, 1.6.4, 1.7.10, 1.8.8, 1.8.9 (client only), 1.10.2, 1.11.2, 1.12.2, 1.13.2, 1.14.4, 1.15.2, 1.16.1
fun fact, ignoring early versions, most major versions stop updating at even numbers
strange aspen
Ey
viral hornet
👏 we 👏 need 👏 1.16.2 👏
vestal jasper
Ignoring versions that only exist on either the client or server, only 3/16 versions stop at odd numbers
also jfc what the fuck did they do to 1.7 and 1.8 where they patched them so many times
latent valve
that how 1.8 performance is good
sharp sentinel
They did the UUID migration midway through a version
latent valve
oh slowmode 
// time to edit message n send
sharp sentinel
Hence why there are so many around them
vestal jasper
7/16 end at 2
golden gust
many security things around that time iirc
vestal jasper
True
golden gust
Yea, 1.7.6 added UUID support iirc
strange aspen
Lolwhat
void void
Hey guys, if let's say I'm running a 25 to 100 players server, do I need to setup mysql? Or sqlite (flatfile) is enough. This server is a standalone server (Not Bungeecord)
void void
I'm still confused with connection pool and max connections. I mean I know what does are but the problem is how many do I have to set if let's say 100 max players on the server?
rare herald
Depends what you’re using it for. MySQL has more third party tooling which makes it easier to use
magic river
Unless you're writing out gigs of DB data or trying to use the DB from multiple processes sqlite is fine
But you can't poke at the DB while the server is running
rare herald
Amusingly, SQLite actually handles writing gigs of data with more ease than MySQL
MySQL read speeds are a bit better though
void void
Hmm okay, I think I'll try to setup mysql. In mysql I can edit easily the tables. But for let's say 100 players, how many max connections and connection pool do I have to set per plugin?
I have set 1000 Max connections on my mysql config
rare herald
1000 is fine
void void
Sorry, I'm still newbie with database stuff
rare herald
You can fine tune it if you want, but not really necessary if it’s not a shared server
void void
So if its just a standalone server no mysql is needed?
golden gust
generally you just set it to a sane max
bearing in mind that you don't want your plugin using all of the connections
void void
Hmmm okay okay. Last question, regarding with java, does upgrading to java 14 (from java 8) gives significant performance on servers or mc client itself?
rare herald
Significant, no.
But I’d still recommend it
Java 8 is getting pretty old at this point
Using 14 on my personal server and no issues thus far
Plus I’m using the newer garbage collection options 👀
stuck lava
u no java 6? 😦
void void
Hmm, okay. I'm a programmer too but on python and c#. I want to develop my own plugins too hehe, Just gonna start taking tutorials next week for java programming
And I've read java 14 gives a lot more than java 8 so.. I had to ask
stuck lava
but all joking aside... is there really noticeable performance increase?
like going from 8 to 14
warm junco
I haven’t noticed one
void void
Is java 15 a thing? xD
I see some java 15 on internet but it says its experimental or somethin lol
stuck lava
void void
Oh.....
stuck lava
why 15 tho? u can get 16 EAB
void void
Lmao java 15 exists
Well what's the stable java then? I don't want to slap some recent java version without knowing its stable lmao
stuck lava
welp, 8 is pretty stable 😂
rare herald
void void
Ty for the link. I'll save this
Wait what did you use? OpenJ9 or Hotspot?
Send help >.<
rare herald
Hotspot
warm junco
open j9 breaks some stuff
stuck lava
what about openjdk vs oraclejdk question?
warm junco
especially old plugins
stuck lava
There is no real technical difference between the two since the build process for the Oracle JDK is based on that of OpenJDK.
When it comes to performance, Oracle's is much better regarding responsiveness and JVM performance. It puts more focus on stability due to the importance it gives to its enterprise customers.
OpenJDK, in contrast, will deliver releases more often. As a result, we can encounter problems with instability. Based on community feedback, we know some OpenJDK users have encountered performance issues.```and tbh I can confirm those issues, performance and stability with openjdk
sadly
void void
Welp, If I got some problems I can still change to java 8 I guess lmao
rare herald
Did Oracle write that 😆
stuck lava
I had issues on openjdk8
stuck lava
mostly JVM crashing with P2 plugin for example
golden gust
often stuff like that is due to sqlite and plugins bundling different versions
stuck lava
yea that was the case... but why did it cause issues with openjdk and not oraclejdk lol
golden gust
god knows
could be anything stupid like plugin load order changing
issue is that CB shares classes between classloaders, etc; so it ends up creating weird issues if you have plugins pulling in different things
fluid drift
Lmao java 15 exists
@void void java 18 exists lol
void void
What
fluid drift
Aikar said that Oracle just released java 20
rare herald
I.e. they decide they want to bundle a newer version of SQLite. Then they stop maintaining their plugin. And people keep using it. And things start getting really freaky
Just don’t do that 😢
fluid drift
Ah yes
void void
It still needs 1.8? Lol
potent fossil
chrome fulcrum
*Except COVID, causes of death shown account for ~7% of global deaths annually
Interesting footnote. So not leading cause of death total. Just surpasses everything on that list
potent fossil
Near the end of May I created a bar chart race using Flourish Studio. I used data from the Global Burden of Disease Study to find major causes of global death that were similar or lower in magnitude to COVID. The aim was not to show that COVID had become THE leading cause of death globally (because it hasn’t) but instead that it has reached a magnitude of global death on par with other well known diseases like malaria, and it has done so in an extraordinarily short period of time. You can see below how that sucker takes off around late March.
magic river
Ok, so I misread that page then 😛
potent fossil
I think I agree that the chart was not well made in that case... However, this page (https://rpubs.com/tonynick/covid_bar_chart_race_1) states he's remaking a few more graphs of the same data I guess.
ivory radish
Hi
potent fossil
Ho
quasi valley
He
hushed pebble
Thank you so much to all the paper team for their work
ivory radish
Mhm
potent fossil
buy them beer
hushed pebble
I will
potent fossil
donation emails in #announcements
hushed pebble
I will too
urban depot
So, NBTExplorer is outdated and doesn't work on the latest version of Mac so I can't use it- are there any other ways of accessing NBT data?
unborn sigil
okay, i installed paper 1.16.1 and now i have stable cpu usage(15-20%) and 20 tps.
urban depot
or the playerdata file
magic river
Use /mspt, it'll give you better perf data than /tps. 50ms is one tick but if you're running your ticks in 10ms you can't tell the difference between that and 49ms with the /tps command.
urban depot
How are people changing playerdata?
latent valve
Nbteditor
urban depot
Or something like https://irath96.github.io/webNBT/
Thanks!
magic river
That one was fun, apparently it's been broken since whenever Spigot got rid of the Bukkit commands (1.13?)
Either that or Spigot used to patch it and forgot for 1.16
cosmic raft
magic river
must resist jokes
twin lagoon
hi kashike
inner wadi
god them warnings are annoying 😄
urban depot
One of my plugins that i'm testing uses a BukkitTask to run every second and freezes the paper 1.16.1 jar - i'm just wondering what's going on
It's only an AFK plugin.
merry talon
lol every second is far too frequent for that
safe barn
Does anyone know how to execute plugin commands with vanilla minecraft commands where the plugin doesn't accept a target selector? Is there a workaround/plugin that makes this possible?
twin lagoon
.1.17
limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
10/10 
potent fossil
The server itself does not support that and likely not on the roadmap any time soon @safe barn
However, this might work https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/psudocommands-add-the-target-selector-to-plugin-commands.56738/
safe barn
Thank - I'll check that out.
potent fossil
(reason server doesn't support it is that it would require a massive rewrite of the command system)
magic river
The server used to support a limited subset of the target selector syntax for plugin commands
Guess that got dropped at some point too
rugged zealot
Hello, out of curiosity, does paper change any mob behavior or spawning?
Thinking of adding quality of life plugins, but don't want to ruin the farms on the server.
magic river
It didn't have all the features and it didn't work 100% the same way for the bits it did support but it was close enough for the common uses
spice finch
it changes spawn limits afaik
rugged zealot
As in limits them or increases them?
spice finch
depends on config
potent fossil
didnt know that, not sure why it would've been dropped unless it was too problematic
or maybe it was dropped when brigadier came out
twin lagoon
dynmap go brrrr
potent fossil
i really dont remember
magic river
I wrote it, it kind of sucked 😛
potent fossil
oof
heady spear
magic river
But making it work right requires API changes, you need to be able to feed the raw selector bits into the plugins and get them to make an API call to resolve them
magic river
Instead I was resolving them then issuing multiple commands, one for each thing it resolved to
magic river
But that broke on the commands that expected selectors to be like running one command with multiple arguments
potent fossil
do those API changes need to be breaking?
dull halo
Hey hi
potent fossil
hi
magic river
It was using Mojang's command API for resolving them so it should have had full support for the various refinements you can do to the selectors
magic river
It was the worst kind of changes, the command API wouldn't change but the semantics of it would
vestal jasper
WHY IS THE VERSION TAG AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FILE
dull halo
I come here because I suck 😅
dull halo
I need help please ...
magic river
You'd just get an @e for an argument and have to call the method to resolve it but there was no way to opt-in to this happening to your plugin
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
dull halo
thx
rugged zealot
What is the best setHome plugin?
potent fossil
What if we made it something like the onTabComplete
vestal jasper
best is subjective
potent fossil
and if they don't handle it, then it's just unhandled
vestal jasper
find one tailored to your needs and that you like
rugged zealot
I just need sethome 😄
vestal jasper
don't strive for good, strive for great :^)
potent fossil
like if they don't override it, then the arg just comes in as the raw selector
but if they do, it can be replaced
magic river
But since how the command deals with getting an array of results for a selector is going to be different for some commands... actually yeah, we could have had an onCommand2 or something that had a default impl that expanded the selectors and issued multiple calls to onCommand
Then a plugin could provide their own if they wanted special handling
potent fossil
Right
magic river
Damn, only 6 years too late 😛
vestal jasper
oh god does dynmap really not expose the addition of map markers through the api
potent fossil
I mean, I wonder if it could be done again as a paper PR. The question would just be how to do it cleanly
magic river
And now bridadier makes it more complicated, I think
tough jacinth
when switching to, for example, 1
1.16 this time: is it OK to keep my old config files, or better to let it create new ones and change those?
potent fossil
You can keep your old (server) configs. You need to update plugin configs if the author has said so, otherwise keep the old ones.
tough jacinth
I guess across several version I would have several options in there which are no longer relevant? but maybe that's no problem?
potent fossil
Paper removes obsolete options afaik
stray oyster
sigh. time to yeet paper on my test bench and see how many plugins 1.16 broke
granite salmon
Wait, there are per world difficulties?
tough jacinth
how stable does the current 1.16 paper release to be?better to wait another few days?
potent fossil
imo, wait like 2 days
but do what you want
it's "released"
i have it running on a test server only, updating plugins
in a few days, ill move the new jar over, along with updated plugins
and that'll be that
urban depot
When updating a world to 1.16.1, is it a good idea to download it and optimize it in singleplayer after converting it to vanilla format?
potent fossil
Mm, I don't think there would be a benefit to it. Just run --forceUpgrade.
urban depot
Wdym
queen zodiac
just updatet from spigot to paper, love it 😍
potent fossil
so you start the server like this, normally:
java <flags> -jar paper.jar
when you need to upgrade chunks after upgrading, do this ONCE:
java <flags> -jar paper.jar --forceUpgrade
after it runs, remove the --forceUpgrade and ur good to go.
that upgrades all chunks to the new version
urban depot
Are you sure that won't risk corruptions or weird chunks?
potent fossil
None more than downloading it and running it on single player.
ALWAYS take a back up in any case.
If you don't, you're dumb.
urban depot
Yeah i back up everything
potent fossil
Then you're fine.
urban depot
Is it quicker than singleplayer?
potent fossil
forceUpgrade is a supported upgrade pathway.
I mean
It's probably very similar
It loads all known chunks, updates it, then saves it.
Probably, SP does the same thing.
magic river
Should be the same code doing it on both
urban depot
I'm doing all of them in singleplayer and its already at 18% for 370953 chunks
potent fossil
I think paper will do that for you, but I'm not certain on that
urban depot
Ah, I'll try both ways anyway
Just to be absolutely sure, was I correct to move everything from world_nether to DIM1 in world and everything from world_the_end to DIM-1 in world?
For vanilla.
worn ember
Allo
void void
hlllo
potent fossil
Uh, I think so yes @urban depot
urban depot
Great! Thank you!
potent fossil
I can't be certain. I don't convert between paper and vanilla :p
But it sounds right
urban depot
Ah, ok
worn ember
I would like to thank myself for waiting so patiently while everyone else worked hard on the update. Thanks myself
(On a serious note, thanks everyone for making paper greater (get it cuz it went from 1.15 to 1.16)) Amen.
vernal moth
Did my PayPal get leaked or why have a received random transactions? 🤔 😂
Oh, should have read #announcements
potent fossil
yea it's leaked in #announcements
cedar spade
ono paypal leak
vernal moth
Why don't ppl add their name to the transaction :/
potent fossil
how rich are you now mini
void void
ono free money
vernal moth
I can't even thank them
vernal moth
I think @rare herald is one of the donors? So if it was you, thank you! 
rare herald
Welcome ❤️
worn ember
👏
potent fossil
mini, go check DMs
vernal moth
Am on it, I have like 20 notifications to wake up to
potent fossil
worn ember
mr famous
oak mortar
Just got you guys a cup of coffee! Thanks for all the hard work!
twin lagoon
mini is such an alcoholic now
vernal moth
Thank you @oak mortar
cedar spade
mini 11am beer cam when
vernal moth
Oh yesterday was actually pretty alcoholic, I felt like shit so decided to get absolutly shitfaced and play league all day
twin lagoon
noticed
vernal moth
And I don't even regret that 😂
cedar spade
also hangar when
vernal moth
I plan on working the week on hangar
cedar spade
Oh yeah I forgot
vernal moth
Today I need to figure out stuff with kash
worn ember
lemme know when you manage to merge sponge's master
cedar spade
Good thing I didn't ping today :p
vernal moth
Oh I don't mind pings
cedar spade
Nah me and Kenny were only going to start pinging tomorrow
thorny totem
vernal moth
I just woke up, gonna drive to my parents now, get food and chill with my sis, then doing minimessage/kyori work and then the week is all for hangar
Pls do md
hard kernel
thanks guys 🙂
vernal moth
That's like the only way I do shit 😂
thorny totem
cedar spade
Fair enough haha
hard kernel
how do i sign up to hangar
cedar spade
If you need help with testing Hangar btw ping me
worn ember
as long as you finish it idc how you do it
potent fossil
@vernal moth my DM is asking if you want me to buy you a meal, so if you're gonna eat wat u want boi
noble lodge
Anyone has this problem? villagers in certain chunks will not learn a profession, in other chunks they do!
cedar spade
@hard kernel you can't right now, neither sign up option is working
Unless you fixed that mini
hard kernel
ok thanks.
worn ember
give the man some space
worn ember
viral hornet
Went over your head completely
hard kernel
its recommended to wait til 1.16.2 to put this on production server right?
worn ember
did it?
quasi valley
@cedar spade so we have to do each a ping a few hours apart each day for maximum effect
vernal moth
I mean, sign up is working
But you don't get a email
I get the email into a mail dump 😂
vernal moth
When we test it, I can manually confirm emails and stuff for the beginning
latent valve
hard kernel
queen zodiac
@vernal moth thx for paper 1.16.1 it runs sooo smoother than spigot 😍
empty falcon
great job ty 4 paper ❤️ now I forgot about xray users
vernal moth
Thank you @latent valve
latent valve
🍻
vernal moth
.gui
limber knotBOT
The server will now show the vanilla GUI by default on supported systems. If you do not want this behavior, use the --nogui argument after -jar paperclip.jar.
vernal moth
The poll is gone?
latent valve
yea i think z remove it or cat
median crane
Anybody knows if its possible to make a global packet listener for protocolib?
vernal moth
Don't
It will break everything
Some dude on the issue tracker did that for some stupid anticheat and was wondering why players where randomly invisible 😂
serene sentinel
nice 1.16 paper is out 🥳
vernal moth
There are many packets PL can't handle properly
median crane
really?
ancient bolt
See #announcements
median crane
@vernal moth does that apply to all versions or its something that occurs on the newer ones?
livid plume
would anyone know how to copy/paste worldedit schematics with the stair rotation and such correctly?
vestal jasper
recursion in deserialization in CMI
twin lagoon
CMI
vestal jasper
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/67541601/85945036-a925de00-b943-11ea-8b7c-94201127c8d6.png
I'll go with "shoving Location objects into GSON" for $3000, alex
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3649 for context
potent fossil
Ah yes. Closed source. My favorite. I want a big ol spoon full of closed source. Gonna go sip me some CoreProtect tea.
potent fossil
minor badge
he wont lol
viral hornet
@rare herald confirm? 
minor badge
been saying that for a while i believe
worn ember
💩
minor badge
i mean making stuff open source isnt some process
you add a gitignore, ensure no secrets are in there, and push
potent fossil
yeah he just doesnt want to
worn ember
what? I always need to exclude my porn
potent fossil
lol
viral hornet
Maybe I was thinking of CoreEdit?
Or maybe I was just really under the influence and completely misread something
worn ember
of baby juice?
minor badge
those 2 are more likely tbh
worn ember
me thinking of a new plugin to make that is just the same plugin but with a slight difference
Is this "copy paste"?
viral hornet
yeah baby juice 
worn ember
juice made of babies
vestal jasper
This cat is begging for ice cream so fucking hard
worn ember
careful, wiz is always watching
stray oyster
dont
vestal jasper
I do not deserve this suffering you are bringing me
potent fossil
what the fuck is ig
heady spear
irongolem u nutjob
worn ember
instagram kappa
potent fossil
oh
heady spear
let's free the world from closed source crap
worn ember
shouldnt you finish hyperverse first?
heady spear
although we should use the coreprotect approach and just make everything static
for convenience
viral hornet
What is irongolem
heady spear
Hyperverse is finished already lol
worn ember
CP alternative
vestal jasper
A golem made of iron
viral hornet
I mean, I don't think there is any alternative atm?
worn ember
that name is whack tho
vestal jasper
Why not contribute to prism :^)
viral hornet
actually no, PRISM is around again
heady spear
just open sourced and not bad
Prism is cool
I wanted my own plugin tho
that's kinda how all my projects start, I just take an idea and copy it
and then bully the developers until they abandon their projects
viral hornet
WorldEdit -> FAWE
heady spear
and then I spend a couple of years building up the community and then I monetise the plugin
and then I make a shit tonne of money
candid spindle
Taco
worn ember
i think everyone just laughs about anything you make city 😉
heady spear
ok but i pay my rent with plot money
worn ember
oh, what happend to being poor?
heady spear
am a block game capitalist, almost as bad as those awful anticheat developers
candid spindle
I just eco give myself 20 mil to pay my rent
heady spear
I'm poor, not homeless 👀
heady spear
we split it 4 ways tho so I'm still poor
candid spindle
Thats sad
candid spindle
thats even sadder
viral hornet
OOOO haha
worn ember
@candid spindle nah he gets anime booty every week
heady spear
so the $9000 we've made has been split to 4 people, and then sales tax on top of that
woven otter
imagine buying plotsquared
worn ember
imagine not compiling from source
viral hornet
How much does Spigot (if anything?) take from premium resources
heady spear
nothing
golden gust
compile from source
viral hornet
oh okay
candid spindle
9000$
woven otter
spigot takes your soul
vestal jasper
@viral hornet old cat let young cat lick him once and didn't attack him
golden gust
give city bucks
candid spindle
:O
golden gust
erm, both options just sound back
viral hornet
@vestal jasper are you okay bb?
golden gust
did what?
vestal jasper
You know what
viral hornet
I'm concerned and confused about what you just said
heady spear
$9k for 6 years of work is pretty lame ngl
golden gust
oh, lol
vestal jasper
You or Kash
worn ember
@heady spear just be like those opensource premium plugins, where you exclude the pom or gradle file lmao
golden gust
i mean, if you wanna blame poor innocent kash
vestal jasper
Idk anyone else who would nick me
heady spear
guys i know u wanna give me all your money
vestal jasper
Kash has a history of silent trolling
heady spear
I mean you get exclusive entertainment from me daily
worn ember
@heady spear all my money eh?
viral hornet
entertainment is a big word
heady spear
if you have time to set here and read my messages then you can send me a little money
woven otter
nice try city
heady spear
if you can't afford that then you can't afford to sit here and read my messages okay
worn ember
thats all my money xD
vestal jasper
I have $30 usd
twin lagoon
thick torrent
o update
vestal jasper
City I'll sell you my kit plugin
woven otter
you sound like one of those sluts that have onlyfans account
worn ember
my bank account has like a whopping 1.38euro too
viral hornet
cries in poor
worn ember
im rich
twin lagoon
what are we talking about
heady spear
Michael give me money
twin lagoon
ok
heady spear
I want it
twin lagoon
link
heady spear
wait ima start an onlyfans
woven otter
don't simp for city
twin lagoon
too late
viral hornet
City is talking about people giving him all his money shit
heady spear
where I pose in bikinis
twin lagoon
no more money for you
viral hornet
heady spear
i have great tits D:
twin lagoon
hot
thick torrent
:0
void void
Eyyy guys I have a question, on mcmmo using MYSQL, if let's say on average I have 50 players on my server, How much "max-connection" and "connection-pool" should I set?
thorny totem
heady spear
if u want better performance then git rid of mcmmo and buy my plugin
twin lagoon
link
viral hornet
You have a mcMMO alternative or
heady spear
no
twin lagoon
worn ember
he does not (yet)
viral hornet
fuk u
void void
Hahahahaha
worn ember
its probably on the list too
heady spear
yes
viral hornet
Have you considered just PR'ing to the current one
heady spear
no
thorny totem
stretMMO™️
viral hornet
Making it finally reach that 2.2 update
viral hornet
trash
heady spear
ur trash
viral hornet
daddy
heady spear
that's it I'm muting u again
thorny totem
worn ember
cityweebtrash confirmed
thorny totem
Would be Hyperverse superior to MV-Core? 🤔
viral hornet
omg
3 hours?
😂
https://i.imgur.com/kTaY5Vg.png
Guys, this is what you get for BUYING his plugins, don't do it
worn ember
aboose
heady spear
I mean HV has gotten really good feedback so I guess it depends on who you ask
thorny totem
City, instead of saying "no u" you've should gave him a 
card
viral hornet
I'm reporting you to spigot
thorny totem
nice, might give it a try on a test server
twin lagoon
ew dyno
thorny totem
oh thats fine xD I usually wait between 1-2 months for 1.16.1 updates, or else 1.16.2 >.>
heady spear
If I have time I'll test it tonight and push the 1.16 update but like, I'm busy being productive and stuff
thorny totem
IRL stuff aswell
heady spear
by being productive I meant that I bully people on the spigot discord
viral hornet
Stop bullying me
finite wave
Yo this dude https://i.imgur.com/3uYhqar.png
heady spear
paper has awful support
one time when I asked for help they swatted me and then sent a dead squirrel to my P.O. box
100% true story
void void
what else are we meant to do
finite wave
If you wanna rip at him go over there lol https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-is-paper-better-than-spigot.448107
thorny totem
@viral hornet Yes, usually to wait a stable release, I guess I might do that early in a month (till August)
thorny totem
I mean, production ready usage
heady spear
y
latent valve
worn ember
oh i've been there
heady spear
latent valve
heady spear
worn ember
politiks
woven otter
stinky
peak dust
loving it
void void
ooh new server banner
heady spear
duck stop being afk
woven otter
no u
vernal moth
@vernal moth does that apply to all versions or its something that occurs on the newer ones?
@median crane yes
lapis apex
Me: downloaded paper-7
Paper: paper-10 release
deep void
aye thanks for the fast update guys, I don't even think all my plugins updated yet haha.
but I really appreciate the hard work 🤜🤛
dusky harbor
hey
tnt boosts doesnt work on my server
the player doesnt get pushed
disable-explosion-knockback: false
..
worn ember
..
woven otter
..
dusky harbor
funny xD
foggy elbow
you're on paper 1.8.9 right ?
dusky harbor
yes
vernal moth
1.8.9, lmao
dusky harbor
1.8.8
woven otter
it's not supported
worn ember
that is indded funni
foggy elbow
woven otter
update to latest supported version
vernal moth
foggy elbow
paper 1.8.9 is not supported
woven otter
stop the factions nonsense
dusky harbor
anyone has an idea why?
latent valve
worn ember
latent valve
Or 1.15
vernal moth
No we don't, and this isn't the place to get support for old versions
woven otter
people should really start dropping support for 1.8.x on their plugins
twin lagoon
woven otter
or we could blame protocol hacks
worn ember
lets blame notch
foggy elbow
I got an interesting question that would be cool for sooo much users, it's some tests of the stability of 1.16 ( but not test it with 2 players by loading chunks, but some tests of real "big servers" with test with +60 players, to know what is laggy in this version, what has been patched since 1.15 ), and make it as an "official post" so it will be easier than having to answer to all player about 1.16 perfs 🙂
finite wave
Blame bukkit
azure thorn
Ty everyone for making paper! much love ❤️
woven otter
np
worn ember
paper stress test event
woven otter
it's easy to tear paper in half
worn ember
not if you fold it enough
woven otter
well what if we don't
woven otter
❤️
worn ember
hasnt been for days
worn ember
pizza time
dusky harbor
🍕
woven otter
seems like you aren't even using paper but some fork of paper
dusky harbor
im using paper
cedar spade
papier mache
dusty rock
Thank you to the team for the hard work recently
cedar spade
no, their hard work before 1.16 is invalid ||/s||
hushed fjord
Sorry if it's known, I haven't been reading all the messages here, but any word on the stability of the new 1.16.1 Paper build? I did read some people mentioned it overwrote chunks? 👀
vernal moth
They are early builds, you are expected to do backups
But they should be reasonable stable
hushed fjord
Yeah ofc, I did a backup just now but I figured I'd ask since I didn't wanna have to sit here and upload it which would take way longer lol
finite wave
Reminds me of the 1.13 release
cedar spade
shh wrong channel
tired ice
worn ember
.optimize
stiff yarrow
Anyone got recommendations for a North American dedi rental service with high end specs ( the ones that matter for Minecraft like single thread perf ) tag me if so 🤗
viral hornet
^
wide chasm
If nossr specifically asks to be mentioned then it's fine
unreal quarry
its wiz. i'd rather play it safe 😛
thorny totem
@vernal moth *hugs*
golden gust
pings are just harder to read for me, depends how I feel as to caring with reading them
golden gust
get's super annoying when you're in a convo and they ping you every message, etc
vernal moth
Yeah, ppl just should be stupid and ppl shouldn't ping without a reason
hard kernel
whoa nice banner
worn ember
i ping mini every message
stiff yarrow
I like pings because chat moves too fast sometimes and I can’t be bothered reading all the old messages
finite wave
@vernal moth okay.
unreal quarry
oh, i agree, nossr. but that gets us kicked here 😦
golden gust
any reason to kick billy
stiff yarrow
You can ping me since I’m specifically asking I guess 
median crane
@stiff yarrow ?
minor badge
Pings are fine for me because I have notifications turned off and the yellow mixes fine with transparent background
latent valve
can u even turn off notification for ping?
the ping bubble or smt thta show on server when someone ping u
median crane
man
latent valve
minor badge
I mean I don't hear it or see it, EDok
latent valve
ah i dont hear it either only see the
i think max i got was like 20k or smt from someone spamming while i was asleep
hard kernel
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
latent valve
@worn ember wanna play some dota?
latent valve
ah xD same also just started
urban depot
Does anybody know how to get the player's dimension in a plugin? Does getWorld() work somehow?
finite wave
Hmm, somewhat.
urban depot
nether
finite wave
yes
urban depot
Check if they're in the nether
potent fossil
getWorld().getName().equals("world_nether")
or use config to let them change it if the name is different
urban depot
Are you sure it wouldn't think that's the same as world because it's a dimension of the same world?
potent fossil
just generally 'in the nether' and not a specific nether? then yes, check dimension type as cat said
urban depot
getWorldType is depricated...
unborn sigil
any methods to optimize entities?
latent valve
finally a normal nickname reduce them
prime coral
lol
prime coral
bukkit.yml should have a method
thorny totem
Yes we see them Bom
finite wave
Yes bombardy
prime coral
But there are some optimaziation guides
potent fossil
general.
limber knotBOT
okay
potent fossil
paper-help goes to paper-help, paper-dev...guess, paper->general
wide chasm
Smells like ban evasion
potent fossil
could be :>
limber knotBOT
if any mods can see this can someone send me a message on discord (BomBardyGamer#2274) and tell me why I was banned please?
potent fossil
lmao
blissful stag
bruh
potent fossil
you fucking twit
limber knotBOT
only way I could get through
limber knotBOT
how else can I appeal?
potent fossil
forum???
limber knotBOT
also didn't think IRC counted
heady spear
yes, as I told you, ban evasion is the best way to get unbanned
limber knotBOT
lol
limber knotBOT
I literally got banned for no reason though
electroniccat daddy
was just casually chatting in general and boom I got disconnected
wide chasm
There were three reasons listed in the audit log
limber knotBOT
and they were?
heady spear
stop flexing stef
we know you can read the audit log, but there's no reason to make the rest of us feel bad smh
limber knotBOT
lol
potent fossil
this is prime entertainment
wide chasm
Interrupting people in voice chat; talking about what seems like scamming peoiple out of a logo; making other uncomfortable by talking about spanking - something like that.
limber knotBOT
ah okay yeah I did all that I suppose
blissful stag
oof scamming people
heady spear
omg stef leaking internal info
potent fossil
heady spear
demote him
wide chasm
City you're just jealous you're not mod
heady spear
no
limber knotBOT
didn't know the last one made people uncomfortable, didn't know saying that I took a screenshot of a logo from WIX logo maker to avoid paying for it was against the rules, and I already apologised for the talking over people
blissful stag
Now ban him :kappa:
heady spear
ok a little
wide chasm
See
heady spear
b...but
potent fossil
something something ban evading to appeal something
limber knotBOT
well I just wanted to know why I got banned
heady spear
break one more rule to prove that you're not going to break rules
blissful stag
XD
potent fossil
viral hornet
Break the ultimate rule.
heady spear
bro it's too big brain for you to understand
blissful stag
can someone add a kappa emoji here
limber knotBOT
okay yeah maybe it was a little dumb city
heady spear
limber knotBOT
but what else was I supposed to do?
limber knotBOT
didn't know you could appeal on the forums
heady spear
I would make an appeal to the UN
This is a clear violation of human rights and the paper administration team needs to be put on trial
potent fossil
you also didnt know you could appeal on discord (you cant) but you did anyway
limber knotBOT
true
heady spear
You’d take them to international court
limber knotBOT
can't I just have one last chance?
potent fossil
idk im not staff
viral hornet
it displayed -1 out of -1 servers for me at first lmao
wide chasm
No
heady spear
Reminds me of that Ariana song