#general

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finite wave
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?

mighty storm
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thats just paper and spigot

pulsar wigeon
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please dont abuse the bot

mighty storm
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poor korobi 😢

median crane
pulsar wigeon
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...

vernal moth
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bypassed
@median crane it only warns once because it expects some level of sanity

median crane
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it expects some level of sanity

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you got me there

finite wave
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That's a lot of trust in the spigot community

vernal moth
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but this is the paper community

finite wave
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Buut, a lot of people are spigot newbs

sick tendon
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Love the changes

worn ember
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hurdur

short yarrow
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don't play mc enough to have an opinion!

dense field
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Of couse, North is developer of Vanilla, spigot is Vanilla, Paper is spigot >> Notch notch contributed to Paper 5% of code kekwhyper

cedar spade
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mmm yes North

twin lagoon
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lmao

pulsar wigeon
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dude idk if you're just trolling or what but stop

minor badge
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He wouldn't be able to respect other humans enough to stay lol

dense field
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90% real md5 sits here from the second account

lavish nova
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Actually the JDK is sponsored by Oracle so Paper is Oracle software... folks pay up your license fees

cedar spade
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helo

pulsar wigeon
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alrighty we're done here

minor badge
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NMS is net.minecraft.server, the package of the vanilla server. It's very volatile and changes w/o any guarantee of backwards compatibility at all, and has to be deobfuscated. The names aren't necessarily easy to use, nor mapped very often, resulting in it being more challenging to use.

mighty storm
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ew

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they dont really care about 3rd party server implementations

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or arguably multiplayer at all

tame pendant
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Tuinity should be renamed to TuinityPaperSpigot because it's based off PaperSpigot which is based off of Spigot

limber knotBOT
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@tame pendant [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

tame pendant
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And then Purpur can be PurpurTuinityPaperSpigotBukkit

limber knotBOT
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@tame pendant [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

sick tendon
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stop

fallen oracle
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If you trigger the bot again, it kicks you.

tame pendant
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o

true canyon
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and has to be deobfuscated
Worth clarifying that most of NMS in the context of Bukkit forks isn't deobfuscated which makes it worse 😄

tame pendant
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is there a cooldown or is am i just not allowed to say the word for life?

fallen oracle
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Correct.

minor badge
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It's been like that for years; they don't make it severely obfuscated or anything, merely change names. @raven granite

pulsar wigeon
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yes

waxen schooner
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aren't the old 1.7 versions still called PaperSpigot?

limber knotBOT
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@waxen schooner [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

waxen schooner
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can you not please bot

pulsar wigeon
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there are no old versions

sharp venture
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What made the change to paper from paperspigot? legal things?

limber knotBOT
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@sharp venture [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

sharp venture
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me?

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Woah

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I was just curious

vernal moth
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you guys were told to drop the topic ages ago

sharp venture
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I’m new to the disc

vernal moth
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really no need to continue any of this

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we are known paper as we dont want to be affiliated with spigot, we dont need to annoy spigot with paper users asking for support

sharp venture
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Makes sense

limber knotBOT
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@raven granite [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

pulsar wigeon
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papermc is the org, paper is the bukkit-fork server

mighty storm
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that would be hilarious and i would like to see that

dry whale
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Any chance of 1. 16 today? 🙃

mighty storm
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no because there's not even a spigot 1.16, did you mean 1.16.1? if so, maybe, maybe not, who knows

pulsar wigeon
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...

finite wave
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The rule was added because morons go, 1.16 when?!?!

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But it was already answered a million times

slate seal
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I mean yes but also open your eyes and your mind

pulsar wigeon
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we don't need to have a discussion about this

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thanks.

finite wave
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Okay daddy

latent valve
pulsar wigeon
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maybe you should just drop it

waxen panther
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Ban viper

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Pls

limber knotBOT
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removes Debian from broccolai's system.

dry whale
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Ok... Sorry, not gonna do that again🙃

latent valve
waxen panther
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Will donate to engine hub 4 viper ban

cunning raft
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^

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same

waxen panther
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Go fund me for viper ban

hard kernel
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stream link?

mighty storm
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what stream

hard kernel
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k

mighty storm
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afaik no one is live rn

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we're just vibin

hard kernel
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ty

latent valve
hard kernel
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dank memes wiz

upper flicker
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@still smelt ?

finite wave
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Wiz is the greatest

rough crane
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I tried to generate the overworld, radius 10000

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no error during the generation, the final folder was ~15 GB

cyan root
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why are there so many people in vc who are muted lol

mighty storm
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not epic enough

spice finch
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Anyone knows site where I can render 3D player's head by its skin in base64?

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Like that but with Base64

rough crane
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Why would you ever use that plugin
I mean, is there any other one?

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I didn't even enable the weird features like async mode, hybrid mode or anything

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just a basic sync generation

magic river
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Just grab that image and base64 encode it?

spice finch
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You didn't understand - I want to generate .jpg from base64

void void
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ye lol

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what

spice finch
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render 3d head

void void
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convert png to jpg

spice finch
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damn

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i dont know how to explain xD

rough crane
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he doesn't want the 2d head, but a 3d render

void void
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you want to take textures base64

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then render it into 3d skull?

magic river
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@rough crane there used to be a script that could do it even on vanilla, it modified the spawn area, started the server, waited for it to generate the new "spawn" chunks, shutdown, repeat

void void
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correct?

spice finch
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indeed

magic river
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Let me see if I can find it

void void
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cravatar is open source iirc

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go look at how its renderer works

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it's basically simple math

spice finch
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oh, ty 😉

magic river
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That one actually worked way better if you did it on vanilla too since craftbukkit and such took a lot longer to start

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Although it only works for the overworld so... hmm

void void
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that shit is pretty trivial to do, you can even do it in browser without any external libraries

rough crane
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eh, it's not ideal indeed

void void
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draw image parts to canvas and export as image/jpeg

rough crane
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I guess my players will just generate the chunks manually then

void void
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Fast Chunk Pregenerator sounds shady

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i've had luck with ChunkMaster

magic river
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The old WorldBorder plugin had pregen built in to it

rough crane
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yea but it's quite old now

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I used it back when it was relevant

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I guess I can try chunkmaster

magic river
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60 players, how much RAM would you guys think the server would need? Asking for a friend 😛

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It's a survival server

worn ember
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why do people always ask that

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like we would know any better lol

magic river
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I haven't run a server since 2012, I literally have no idea 😛

worn ember
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depends on the plugins you use

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

magic river
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I think I last measured RAM usage for a server in like 2014 when I was making chunks use less RAM

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And that was just with me on it

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Sure but this server is probably using too much RAM which can cause long GC pauses when it finally all gets used up

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So I'm looking for a sane number

worn ember
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shouldnt if you have the right flags

magic river
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I don't know the flags being used either 😛

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But yeah, I suppose if you tune G1GC correctly it probably wouldn't

worn ember
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i'd say about 6-10 gb for 60 players but thats just an estimate from someone that hasnt ran any servers that arent modded lul

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might be too much

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idk

austere star
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is 4gb overkill for 10 people?

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running on ubunut

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server

spice finch
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wouldn't say

fervent dew
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Definitely not overkill, but if well optimized and with limited plugins you may be able to scrape by passibly with 2-3

limber knotBOT
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join waiting room

fervent dew
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if your CPU is robust enough

void void
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looks like it

pulsar wigeon
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bruh it's literally been like that for fucking days

fallen oracle
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Disabled for now. We are still getting like 750 join a day.

void void
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ah, i thought the join waves had gone

worn ember
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stop swearing wtf

void void
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no u

fallen oracle
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Nah, we're about to hit 11,000.

pulsar wigeon
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fuck you too ded

worn ember
void void
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damn, how long until discord server crashes haha

wide chasm
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Well, the Minecraft discord has almost 500k users, so I expect it to sort of hold up for a while.

tame pendant
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I have a few questions, not trying to suggest anything, just curious. Is there like a list of bugs on paper 1.16? And about the lighting bug, I saw some commits related to fixing that. Was it fixed or was it just lessened?

finite wave
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Paper will release a stable version once the bugs have been sorted out, it is not recommended to use the current unstable builds.

tame pendant
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I know that. That's not what I was asking

void void
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so basically you can assume for now that it's burning down

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yeah its a public server

minor badge
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We won't give any promises regarding the fixlight command, but it'll likely work

void void
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*regions

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i wonder if theres any servers running the infinity snapshot ha

spiral garden
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is it just me or does spigot 1.16.1 run with a bit less RAM usage compared to 1.15.2?

limber knotBOT
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probably, mojang improved stuff internally

spiral garden
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i'll do a quick comparasion once spigot 1.15.2 builds (ugh buildtools)

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yeahhhh nevermind

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1.7GB (1.15.2) vs 2.1GB (1.16.1) on a completely fresh server

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so it's getting worse 😃

tame pendant
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typical mojang

minor badge
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mojank

spiral garden
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seriously how is it getting worse every version

dapper nacelle
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havent played 1.16 yet

mighty storm
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looks like a starbound block

dapper nacelle
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I see

worn ember
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looks like insert game with blocks here

dapper nacelle
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smh, come back when you are on the FBI watchlist like me

worn ember
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*disallow list

void void
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i've torrented linux distros, so i'm definetly on some kind of list haha

mild rune
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Except torrenting linux distros is a valid way of downloading them

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Torrenting isn't illegal, it's the downloading and sharing of copyrighted content

void void
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you get put on the list either way, meh anyway

mild rune
unreal quarry
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Want to get on every watchlist ever? Go to Walmart and buy condoms, duct tape, rope, a water hose, and a gas can.

finite wave
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Eh,

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Go america

chrome scroll
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go to walmart.

blazing nebula
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what is rpg-7

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no

green turret
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Me neither

warm anchor
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I’ve never play Cod or battlefield either

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-7 -- RPG-7 - Wikipedia: "The RPG-7 is a portable, reusable, unguided, shoulder-launched, anti-tank rocket-propelled grenade launcher. It—along with its predecessor, the..."

The RPG-7 (Russian: РПГ-7, Ручной Противотанковый Гранатомёт – Ruchnoy Protivotankoviy Granatomyot) is a portable, reusable, unguided, shoulder-launched, anti-tank rocket-propelled grenade launcher. It—along with its predecessor, the RPG-2—were designed by the Soviet Union; it...

green turret
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I did play Duke Nukem 3D though!

worn ember
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oh i got one of those laying around

quick pasture
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Same just under my pillow

worn ember
green turret
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And like 20 other FPS games that all have RPGs

left swift
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u got put on watchlists when u started being a furry

cedar spade
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I agree with the database and with putting people on watchlists

left swift
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i saw it md

limber knotBOT
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Reminder for TheViperShow: Download Paper 1.16

worn ember
cedar spade
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specifically 1.16

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not 1.16.1

limber knotBOT
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DiscordBot: Reminder set for 6 months from now.

short yarrow
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.remind

limber knotBOT
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[-d] [-w <who>] <when> <message...>

vestal jasper
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.remind -d -w 273258543132442624 365d furry

limber knotBOT
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DiscordBot: Reminder set for 12 months from now.

short yarrow
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what's -d

vestal jasper
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Leaf

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-d is discord

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It's an irc bot

short yarrow
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ohh

frozen cedar
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Im trying to settle an argument. Is Paper a fork of spigot, yes or no.

kindred storm
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yes

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you can tell because paper pulls from spigot as upstream

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paper patches are applied on top of spigot's

frozen cedar
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Thank you

short yarrow
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why would you even have to argue about that

vernal moth
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dont forget that the avg IQ in the greater mc community is like 30

woven cove
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paper is a fork of spigot although it takes a million years to make.

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u do know iq ranges right? cause 30 wouldnt make sense for them.

vernal moth
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oh right, lemme correct that, its 29.85

woven cove
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id like th know what iq scale that even is then

vernal moth
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the miniscale, obviously

woven cove
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then the lower number on that is probably the better

vernal moth
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its actually reverse exponential

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actually, the scale is kinda distributed like this

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.mini

limber knotBOT
vernal moth
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but mirrored

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) xkcd: Ballmer Peak (1 October 2007)

vernal moth
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am sure you can tell on which axis

granite salmon
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Aikar back at it again

formal oxide
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is 1.16 cool i havent played it yet

brazen adder
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Woops

worn ember
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its rather hot actually

potent fossil
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The hottest

worn ember
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aww tnx

austere barn
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A lot of Minecraft developers use Linux v:

worn ember
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laughs in windows

vast idol
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Windows 95 for life

worn ember
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wait forge is on 1.16 already? thonkeng

limber knotBOT
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yep

worn ember
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fast bois

waxen panther
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well

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fast for forge

magic river
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I think they got there before Paper 😛

worn ember
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ig their rewrite paid off

pulsar wigeon
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i mean this is standard tbh

magic river
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Although I think they dropped the async chunk load patch at some point so their diff is pretty much just API stuff

pulsar wigeon
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there's just some weird lingering stigma because 1.13 took so long

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(due to tooling overhauls and such)

worn ember
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i dont remember forge updating within the same week tho

magic river
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Every so often Lex uses an MC update as an opportunity to rewrite some part of Forge even if the underlying MC part didn't have a significant change

worn ember
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then again, i never really followed releases for forge

magic river
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Those updates take forever

worn ember
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yea

magic river
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Otherwise they're basically however long it takes to get FML done plus a couple hours

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And I think FML is at most a day

pulsar wigeon
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yea i mean mcpconfig can be updated in less than 10 minutes

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lex did it for a snapshot once just to prove a point

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it's mostly just that forge has looots of api and patches

worn ember
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👏

pulsar wigeon
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and they'd rather have a stable api on a stable release than just update quickly to every version that barely gets used anyway

worn ember
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now if only mc devs had the same thought process :p

blissful badge
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Is 1.16 here yet

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The site was confusing

finite wave
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...

waxen panther
peak dirge
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1.16.1 is very unstable right now. You’re better off staying with 1.15.2.

void void
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is anyone having issues with 1.16.1 client?

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I'm getting like under 60 fps

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I have over 300 in 1.14, then 200 in 1.15, and then 1.16 kills everything

signal sedge
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is there a server where i can get help with the spigot api and stuff

meager kernel
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IS there any reason i am not allowed in general chat..?

median crane
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does paper expose netty or its internal?

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I'm working with 1.8 at the moment

vernal moth
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I have a new plan on what to do when I feel like shit

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get absolutely drunk and play league all night

median crane
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@vernal moth

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did you see

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poppy exploit

vernal moth
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no

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also, next game is my first support game this entire season

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first time getting autofilled

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in 250+ games

frigid glen
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Wow.

ocean bison
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wtf how

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I constantly get support lol

crystal compass
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Quit league and your mood will get better

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I got up to plat 3 as an adc main n quit because i was smashing too much shit irl

vernal moth
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the game is actually pretty calming

ocean bison
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lmao

pulsar wigeon
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just turn off chat and emotes

vernal moth
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excuse me

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wtf

fluid drift
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Sup guys

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Damn

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Aikar has another live

hard kernel
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i think my top laner was the feeder digger

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i think my PC is shitting the bed. Suggestions for under $1500?

vernal moth
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3500x + 2070 super

hard kernel
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this amd

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?

vernal moth
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the cpu is, yes

hard kernel
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ok i look

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right now i have i7 with 1080ti

vernal moth
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lol no need to updgrade then

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unless your i7 is as old as aikars 😄

hard kernel
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think my gpu might be dying

lament patio
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Track down the faulty part and replace it tbh 🤷‍♂️

grand pewter
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theres a 3500x?

lament patio
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Well, yeah, depending on the i7

grand pewter
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i thought it was just 3300x and 3600x

hard kernel
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i was just playing league and there were weird visual effects every time i last hit

waxen panther
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reinstall league

vernal moth
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I mean the ryzen 5

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is that 3600x?

grand pewter
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i think so

vernal moth
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yes it is

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I have a 3900x, really happy with it

grand pewter
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im running on a 3700x atm, is great

hard kernel
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well when a team fight happened my screen went black

grand pewter
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good enough for me

hard kernel
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and pc wouldnt respond

vernal moth
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update gpu drivers

hard kernel
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ok ill look if they need update

grand pewter
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3900x has moar threads

vernal moth
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all the threads!

hard kernel
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says they are up to date

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the drivers

vernal moth
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holy shit I played 12 games of league today 😂

hard kernel
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i played 4

vernal moth
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time to go bed

hard kernel
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with my bronze friend

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what rank u

vernal moth
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gold

hard kernel
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same

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but u eu

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right

vernal moth
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Ye

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Am mostly just vibing

hard kernel
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im sup main thresh

vernal moth
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I play like once a month nowadays

hard kernel
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haha same

vernal moth
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Am draven otp

hard kernel
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since i got gold i just been chillin

vernal moth
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750k points or smth stupid like that

hard kernel
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haha too bad ur not in NA

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would play some w ya

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i think 450 on thresh on my main

vernal moth
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I don't really play with others anymore, they are either tryharding or tiling or whatever

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I just wanna get drunk and throw some axes

hard kernel
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tryharding or tiling lel says draven

vernal moth
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It's my way to zone out if life's a mess

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You will never see me tilt

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Am the most chill guy you will ever know

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My Ex always said I have a "I don't give a fuck" mentality

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Don't fuck with me and I don't fuck with you

hard kernel
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i dont tilt no more... i used to be hella flamey but now i just mute all if i fk up

vernal moth
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Some may say that I did smoke wwwaay too much weed in school so that's why am always chill now

hard kernel
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and when my adc is bad i just roam

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as an adc main how does autofill feel

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like when u get auto filled sup

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filled adcs are the worst

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AMD Ryzen 9 3950X this just overkill? i searched best cpu this one came up.

vernal moth
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As I said, today is my first time this season I got autofilled

mint yew
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i was curious when 1.16.1 paper would be out lol

vernal moth
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When it's stable

waxen panther
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my sources say 2023

vernal moth
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

vernal moth
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AMD Ryzen 9 3950X this just overkill? i searched best cpu this one came up.
@hard kernel yes. Even my 3900x is overkill

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If you just wanna game, get a 3600x

somber whale
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how is it possible they don't have an estimation date

vernal moth
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Or 3700x I guess

mint yew
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ill fight the goblins glady. i just wanna idea how long ill have to wait cause spigot and vanilla is giving me issues

vernal moth
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how is it possible they don't have an estimation date
@somber whale because we want to make sure we don't put out broken builds?

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Aikar is sitting in voicechat chat and streaming on twitch right now

waxen panther
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it's a free project, people are working on it constantly and when it's done, it'll be done. they don't owe you anything. anyway zzz this is talked about 100 times a day and it's a pointless conversation

vernal moth
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So if you wanna see progress, join there

somber whale
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yeah that's what i though so well i thank you for your hard work

hard inlet
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Hi, I wanted to know if when paperspigot 1.16.1 comes out, just deleting the nether would be fine, I am not very informed if something would happen when leaving the overworld as is

limber knotBOT
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@hard inlet [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

mint yew
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ighty. any temp fix for an overloaded spigot server? lol

vernal moth
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Point is, it's done when it's done. The fast majority of the work was done in the first two days, working 24/7

waxen panther
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wait on 1.15 Allsmiles

vernal moth
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Generally, you really don't want to update to a new version in the first days

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Like, I would wait at least a week or two

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Let others find the issues

loud reef
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as I patiently wait for 1.16

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I wonder why I cant join vc general chat

vernal moth
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It's locked cause ppl are dum and scream

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Just waiting room and ppl will move you

sick tendon
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They have a waiting room so they can take note of all the names that come in. That way, when someone starts mic spamming or swearing to ruin live streams, it's easier to determine who it was.

hallow geyser
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😱 📣

potent fossil
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i love how every release we have to say the same shit over and over

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should just set up an automatic repeating spambot

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but then they'd just go to a different channel and ask there anyway

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no, problem not solved

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we have a bot

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

potent fossil
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no one listens

somber jackal
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You should make it read all messages and if it says eta then it will mute & msg them teh info

potent fossil
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well im not staff

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but i've been here through MANY releases

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and it's always the same despite what we do to combat it

somber jackal
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Your name is colored thou?

potent fossil
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yes, it is colored

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doesn't mean im staff

pulsar wigeon
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bruh is this dude still arguing

potent fossil
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idk how long it's been going, personally i just logged into my PC for the day ¯_(ツ)_/¯

somber jackal
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Nah wiz, we was just debating a bot that reads full message for if it contains eta then it auto mutes them

warm anchor
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kicking them is better than muting

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if they have ability to read to begin with, they wouldnt be kicked so a kick message wont do shit

waxen panther
pulsar wigeon
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the only reason a kick isnt enough is cuz people like you keep going on about shit after i've kicked you already

potent fossil
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the kick is because yall dont read the readme...

warm anchor
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as a matter of the fact, someone just did an hour ago

potent fossil
#

or you do, and ignore it

#

thinking you wont be kicked

#

then you get kicked and go

warm anchor
#

so it worked then you read after. Why is there still discussion lol

mint yew
#

from what im hearing theyre about to release paper 1.16

void void
#

so long to read

viral hornet
#

oh ronski

true canyon
#

Hi RonSki! Hope you're well.

potent fossil
#

hey wiz, since you seem like you have your credit under control and I already annoyed Me

pulsar wigeon
#

lol sure

potent fossil
#

how long 2 keep balance on credit card? bc i have one that i didn't use for over a year while i was paying off the other shit, so the online account page says the statement date is like earlier 2019. I just used it and put like 200 on there, but the statement date didn't update. So I asked, and they said the next statement is July 8th, but there would be $0 due. So when teh fuk do I pay

pulsar wigeon
#

wut

#

i mean i literally just have mine set to pay in full every month automatically

potent fossil
#

It already hit my credit report, so I can pay right? I want to hold it on there only as long as I need to to get my credit score raised due to making an on time payment

#

:'(

#

ok

pulsar wigeon
#

you don't want to be holding a balance month to month if you can avoid it

#

cuz that means you're paying extra in interest

#

you are literally paying extra money to hold a balance

golden gust
#

last I recall, the general advice for building credit was to pay more than your min, but, take advantage of being able to spread it out, but, also ^

potent fossil
#

yeah i know, but you should only pay after you get a statement with the balance updated right? otherwise, it's like you never used the card

#

at least that's my shitty understanding

celest coyote
#

generally you get charged interest after 3 weeks

golden gust
#

mainly as spreading it out just gives more datapoints or something iirc

potent fossil
#

to be clear, i can pay it right now, i have the money

#

i just want whats best for my credit score

#

bc its low atm, need 2 raise

pulsar wigeon
#

uhhh pretty sure they report usage not just current balance

#

so even if it's $0 they should report that you used $x in the past month

#

but not 100% ¯_(ツ)_/¯

unreal quarry
#

Also, you want to make sure you keep using it. An unused card will get closed. And part of your credit score is longevity of accounts.

potent fossil
#

hmm ok

#

yea, im going to use this one more often for clothes, but only in small bursts

#

im not going to maxed out land ever again

#

that was hell :)))

glossy mulch
#

So I see there's 1.16 build on the papermc download page but don't see anything in the announcements.

golden gust
#

It's basically one of those weird ones hidden behind all the computers, etc

pulsar wigeon
#

i literally have a credit card that gives me $30 at the end of each quarter if i a) use it once per month at least and b) pay off my balance every month

golden gust
#

They're writing it

true canyon
#

Yeah, you can pay as soon as the statement comes in (or, heck, earlier) to no difference.

golden gust
#

Have a level of patience...

potent fossil
#

Patience

pulsar wigeon
#

so i spend $5 a month on a twich sub and i get $15 for free every 3 months

potent fossil
#

thats the thing mbax, i have no statement yet, so thats why i was wondering if i can pay before that and still have the benefit of an "on time" payment being sent to the credit bureaus or if nothing would happen due to paying too early

#

but it seems like i can

#

so, i prob will

true canyon
#

You totally could pay earlier, but why? 😄

unreal quarry
#

I don't think they look at payments, just balance

potent fossil
#

fair point

austere ivy
#

What is up with these damn fireworks!?

potent fossil
#

idk i have a lot of anxiety around that being that i just pulled myself out of huge debt

#

sorry for noob questions

#

:D

austere ivy
#

Dog started barking like nuts waking me up ._.

wooden blade
#

That's been in the news lately. shrug

unreal quarry
#

I wish I could get out of debt. Everytime things look good I fuck up tho lol

potent fossil
#

lots of fireworks around here, too. woke my dog up and she started having bad anxiety; so i went out to ask them to stop but the other neighbors were already out there

#

dude who lit off the firework threatened to pull a gun on the neighbor who asked him to stop

#

so i called police, was fun

viral hornet
#

Jesus

#

poor doggo 😦

potent fossil
#

yeah my dog never has a good time during july 4th firework sessions

#

but we're prepared for that and give her benadryl (which is safe for dogs, vet told us to do that...)

#

we're not prepared however for random fireworks on random week days

austere ivy
#

we give our dogs benadryl too

#

also during bad thunderstorms

unreal quarry
#

is benadryl drowsy? i thought it was just for itches

austere ivy
#

it's drowsy too

#

it's an antihistamine

potent fossil
#

i mean, its the same stuff as zzzquil

austere ivy
#

I'd take it but it knocks me out, zyrtec and claratin is non-drowsy

#

is it?

potent fossil
#

its diphenhydramine

#

yes

pulsar wigeon
#

depends on which you get

#

the old benadryl ones were not drowsy

#

apparently they mainly sell a drowsy one now

potent fossil
#

vet told us specifically to get the diphenhydramine active agent

austere ivy
#

simple did you know diphenhydramine off the top of your head?

potent fossil
#

which is sleepytime

#

yes, i take that to sleep too

unreal quarry
#

like once a year my entire body starts itching for no reason for like 3 days. i have to pump benadryl like its water, but never felt drowsy from it :3

austere ivy
#

huh that's crazy, I never would've thought

void void
#

unsever mute me

#

tff

potent fossil
#

see on front, diphenhydramine hcl

halcyon needle
#

Hmmm

void void
#

A birdie told me that Paper 1.16 is out on jenkin monkaS

viral hornet
#

Yep

potent fossil
#

it may be out...you probably still dont want to run it...

#

but ok

#

you will anyway

viral hornet
#

First release is on the website

potent fossil
#

im aware

#

you probably still dont want to run it

#

:))

viral hornet
#

oh that was to Kazi lol

celest coyote
#

its pretty stable :8

#

but no guarantees

void void
potent fossil
#

im giving it at least another two days

#

and just keeping tabs

#

i mean hell, aikar is still streaming

carmine hinge
#

how is mc 1.16 itself doing

#

is it slower/faster?

unreal quarry
#

.tryitandsee

limber knotBOT
celest coyote
#

slightly worse than 1.15

carmine hinge
#

thing is billy

warped spear
#

client side 1.16 seems better than 1.15

carmine hinge
#

cant really see w/o running it on prod

warped spear
#

server they feel about the same

viral hornet
#

slightly worse than 1.15
q_pepesob

carmine hinge
#

what'd they do to lighting

lament patio
#

These piglin sync chunk loads aren't looking great mojangthink

onyx void
#

ty for paper 1.16

austere ivy
#

that's big cool

old badge
#

yay

void void
#

lets goooo

#

@true canyon hello there, I am doing well

waxen panther
#

Good luck staff

tropic flame
#

Just seeing how much time of slowmode this has

true canyon
#

👍

tropic flame
#

5 seconds, aight

void void
#

why we have slowmode now

regal onyx
#

Nice job team :)

waxen panther
#

Have a guess

void flower
#

❤️ Paper devs

pulsar wigeon
#

because all you kiddies are about to start spamming

void void
#

y'all spammed like shit?

tropic flame
#

Because of new announcement. It's just 5 seconds anyway

void void
#

what's all the fuss about

tropic flame
#

It's doable

rare herald
#

@wet cairn hi

void void
#

owo 1.16.1 paper

wet cairn
#

I'm surprised I wasn't pruned, I don't think I have ever been active here

nocturne arrow
#

amazing

potent fossil
#

That rule didn't even change

#

Yes

rare herald
#

Wasn’t being enforced lol

potent fossil
#

Ever since demon asked me to stop, I've been consciously avoiding it

#

overall, good move, but yea i was using it a lot lol

static wagon
#

ima wait a little longer before updating 1.16 seems really unstable

shell root
#

heck yeah! thanks yall for your hard work. my server is super excited to upgrade

void void
#

release already???

static wagon
#

damn the team works so hard

potent fossil
lilac zinc
#

heck yeah! thanks yall for your hard work. my server is super excited to upgrade
@shell root f a c t s

static wagon
#

keep it up! paper is the best!

rare herald
#

🧻 🎉

void void
#

speaking of demon my fucking panel daemon is so shitty setup that it don't even load server list on my panel website lmao

past leaf
#

daaang that's crazy, only days after spigot's release

warm anchor
#

They basically worked nonstop

void void
#

also good job paper for not rushing 1.16.1 out

magic ice
#

🎉

void void
#

unlike spigot smh ❤️

neon tapir
#

Gggggg

outer parcel
void void
#

Hue

tiny viper
#

Aaand the arch Linux AUR package for papermc has ALREADY been marked out of date

static wagon
#

light mode?

void void
#

because barty, panel easier to use rather than sftp and nano

ebon dust
#

light mode DansGame

sick tendon
#

They did rush. These guys running on 4 hours of sleep lmaooo

golden gust
#

nano

#

leave

void void
#

my admin uses it lmao i dont

slate seal
#

Really appreciate everything Paper team ❤️

outer parcel
#

what do you use over nano? vim?

void void
#

where do I donate to @cosmic raft tho...

#

no i use sftp to change configs lmao

outer parcel
#

not u

remote garnet
#

1.16 time

void void
#

well that was before i installed pterodactyl and stole got a theme

golden gust
#

I don't even remember what happened this morning

warm anchor
#

lol

outer parcel
#

lmao

void void
#

im ashamed of myself

#

look at me, i have a network on fucking 1.8.8

cunning raft
#

pepega chat

waxen panther
#

@void void you can do it on his github

outer parcel
void void
#

players wanted my skyblock realm to be on 1.8 so i give to them 1.8 realm

#

I am kashike's #1 fan

#

even thoguh i had to recode my custom plugins

#

1.8's shit idk why people love 1.8 and it's skyblock

waxen panther
#

I am broccolais number #1 fan

rare herald
#

Not sure I’d even consider 1.8 PVP a pro, but that’s just my opinion

full ruin
#

paper 2.0 when (/s)

void void
#

it was 1.15.2 with protocolsupport and bitches spamming #suggestions begging to fix the bugs that comes with protocolsupport cross version support

#

had enough and rollbacked the realm to 1.8

halcyon needle
#

Yeeeees 1.16 babyy

void void
#

speaking of skyblock, @spare venture why i have to use custom recourse pack to join bartyrealms skyblock smh

warm anchor
#

lol

void void
#

oh yeah bartyrealms is smp community

waxen panther
#

simp community

ripe sphinx
#

Just want to give a huge thank you to all the devs who have poured hours into getting this update out for us so quickly.
Thank you Aikar, Leaf, Mini, etc!

void void
#

so i'd expect that the skyblock server ain't competitive and more like classic skyblock no competition

hazy hemlock
#

donde descargo 1.16?

waxen panther
#

there is no competition in minecraft

void void
#

might hop on at some point bro

hazy hemlock
#

donde descargo 1.16?

magic ice
#

beta 1.7.3 be where it at though

golden gust
#

This is an english community

potent fossil
void void
waxen panther
#

no runes in my general chat

void void
#

también la comunidad es inglesa pero soy hispanohablante, puedes decirme 😄

potent fossil
#

ingles...

hazy hemlock
#

I only see 1.15.2

golden gust
#

force refresh the page

viral hornet
#

@waxen panther ᛋᛟᚱᚱᚤ ᛒᚱᛟᚲᚲᛟᛚᛁ

lavish panther
#

Papermc is very epic

magic river
#

No 🌮 , only 🌯

waxen panther
#

wtf

#

stop talking in Australian

ripe sphinx
#

LOL

viral hornet
#

if I was talking Australian it probably would get deleted due to words used

void void
#

didnt spigot release their 1.16.1 1 day after mojang did?

#

fkin rushers

#

this is why i love paper

ancient bolt
#

new rules give wiz more firepower

summer barn
#

Looking forwards to getting My server on 1.16.x gotta wait for a lot of plugins tho

ancient bolt
#

y'all better watch out

lapis marlin
#

Can I just give a major major thanks to @slim nymph, @static badge, and @vernal moth? Y'all are the best...

waxen panther
#

oh god

viral hornet
#

:stressed:

pulsar wigeon
#

ooof

#

like those pings

waxen panther
#

I am SHAKING

ancient bolt
viral hornet
void void
viral hornet
#

@void void you're important

placid egret
#

lmao my friend thought /reload was a good idea on a medium sized server, turns out that wasnt a good idea

brave lichen
#

Is anyone familiar with scarpet?

void void
#

rip

reef fulcrum
#

guys

placid egret
#

lol

reef fulcrum
#

how much GB of RAM should I do
for a 2-player survival MC world on 1.16.1 paper
(no plugins)

lapis marlin
#

uhm

summer barn
#

2 - 3

lapis marlin
#

why was i kicked?

golden gust
#

You need to use the bungeecord chat API

round sleet
#

guys im getting worse performance on paper than spigot

summer barn
#

@reef fulcrum

golden gust
#

Theres also some areas where it doesn't work properly

reef fulcrum
#

3 GB should be good?

lapis marlin
#

can I get my swifty role btw

round sleet
#

or does paper not sugarcoat /tps

waxen panther
#

Ah yes PaperCord

viral hornet
#

@round sleet saying that here won't really get you far, seek support in #paper-help. Timings, etc

golden gust
#

tps is a bad metric anyways

lapis marlin
#

also, why was I kicked?

atomic ibex
#

When will spigot paper be getting the 1.16 update????

waxen panther
#

Probably pruned

void void
#

where is StellarPaper

golden gust
#

We also have better averaging on that, etc

ripe sphinx
hearty ingot
#

mcheart thanks for keeping paper updated and blessing us all with good tps

limber knotBOT
#

@hearty ingot [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

void void
#

my tps went to 40 before

#

tps was like 1 for 20 minutes :/

hearty ingot
#

there's a plugin somewhere to set the tps to higher than 20

void void
#

just spoof it lmao

summer barn
#

my tps has been well above 20. after a lagspike

lapis marlin
#

no answer as to why i was kicked?

#

i literally sent out a thank you

sharp sentinel
#

Time to test the Redstone event again 😄

warm anchor
#

LOL not viper

summer barn
#

@lapis marlin Probably bc you pinged admins

lapis marlin
#

@sharp sentinel sorry to ping but can I get my swifty role back

static badge
#

you were kicked for being a furry

lapis marlin
#

oof

sharp sentinel
#

I can't change roles

lapis marlin
#

oh, who can?

shut marten
#

spotted

cunning raft
#

@sharp sentinel sorry to ping but can I get my swifty role back

void void
#

jódete perras furries son los mejores!

sharp sentinel
#

next person to ping me gets their banned role back

cunning raft
#

😳

viral hornet
whole bramble
#

@slow kraken Gottem

cunning raft
#

i sponsor u me it's okay

golden gust
#

@Me4...

lapis marlin
#

ah yes im very funny lemme copy somebody because im original

#

heeeehe

viral hornet
#

@MrWorldeditMan 🥺

slow kraken
#

k @whole bramble

atomic ibex
#

I'm so confused is 1.16 paper out yet or not

void void
#

@StellarSpigotDeveloper make StellarPaper pls i like backdoors

summer barn
#

Yes

lapis marlin
#

it is

mighty storm
#

no, 1.16.1 paper is out

lapis marlin
#

read the announcement

shut marten
viral hornet
#

how are you confused by the announcement

atomic ibex
#

Yh but my server hasnt updated yet

austere ivy
#

what if they can't read :(

atomic ibex
#

Its still 1.15.2

golden gust
#

Well, yes... Unless the server is updated, it's gonna still be 1.15.2

sharp sentinel
#

Imagine if you tried to use your plugin on 1.16.1 but Spigot said redstone event broke

atomic ibex
#

I already showed the announcement to my devs they said it's not out

reef fulcrum
#

How many gb of ram for 2 player surviavl 1.16.1 with no plugins on paper?!

hearty ingot
#

bad tps? just play faster pepega

reef fulcrum
#

some1 tells me 4 gb D:

shut marten
golden gust
#

I mean, it's literally there on the site, so, like 🤷‍♂️

summer barn
#

@reef fulcrum id recommend 2 - 3

ivory sable
#

wait what, redstone event still not fixed in spigot?

atomic ibex
#

@shut marten ok lemme ask em

golden gust
#

4G is basically my "I'm running this for an actual production server"

ivory sable
#

was there even an issue created?

sharp sentinel
#

I didn't make an issue yet nah

golden gust
#

for a few friends, if you're not being stupid, 2G should be fine

sharp sentinel
#

I wanted to look into it properly first

cosmic raft
#

now

#

everybody

golden gust
#

another issue?

cosmic raft
#

listen to the 1.16 theme song!

#

.1.16

void void
#

no!

limber knotBOT
viral hornet
#

😍

robust folio
#

Wooo Paper didnt break anything on my test server

unreal quarry
#

set cardboard on the ground and starts break dancing

golden gust
#

so far

static badge
#

kappa just you wait

summer barn
#

still uses 1.7.10

robust folio
#

yeh well plugin wise everything works the tps is just spiking but I expected plugins to break

summer barn
#

for a modpack

sharp sentinel
#

Oh wait, redstone event actually works now 🙌

#

They fixed it

#

Or maybe Paper fixes it :P
Who knows

flat oriole
#

I'm so going to drop this on prod and let no one know

atomic ibex
#

My dev told me to go fuck myself since it was too hard to implement 1.16 paper

#

:(

slim nymph
#

sounds like you need a new dev

atomic ibex
#

Ye

real wren
#

so my server is prob not gonna explode if I update to 1.16 paper

#

ye?

summer barn
#

wouldnt update yet

real wren
#

ah ok. So treat it like a windows update?

summer barn
#

Id wait to see if 1.16.2 or something

kind plaza
#

I dont see the 1.16 download ;-;

summer barn
#

is coming.

tiny viper
#

Round of thanks for everyone who contributed or helped in general, thanks everyone :p

real wren
#

Well I'm on spigot 1.16.1 and it's fine. I heard paper provides better performance though

shut marten
#

@kind plaza try doing a hard reload (CTRL+Shift+R on Firefox)

summer barn
#

I dont update my servers to new versions until about 2 weeks after paper /spigot comes out

#

just to make sure that a lot of the initial bugs areironed out

atomic ibex
#

I'm looking for a mc java server that's on 1.16 any suggestions?

shut marten
#

Shoko, make sure you test things before making the leap

pale river
#

Especially 1.16 paper

kind plaza
#

If i delete the vanilla 1.16 from my folder, and replace it with paper will we loose our stuff?

shut marten
#

take a backup

kind plaza
#

How do i backup ;-;

golden gust
#

create a copy of the server somehow

#

depends on how you're hosting it, etc

warm junco
#

1.16.2 won't change anything significantly

sharp sentinel
#

1.16.2 adds a mob lol

fallen oracle
#

V true

sharp sentinel
#

Adding features in a dot release

cunning raft
#

New mobs mid-cycle pepegahammer

tiny viper
#

Bruh moment

cunning raft
tiny viper
#

Commit to production and go immediately nap

#

1000%

waxen panther
#

poglin brutes: poglins but with 2x more lag PogU

cunning raft
#

what the fuck

grand pewter
#

lol

potent fossil
#

wow that was retarded

#

that text is stored in some table by the 84770752 identifier, the text at the end is just for SEO

#

you'd have to go input it yourself on memegenerator

thorny totem
#

as soon 1.16.1 gets stable, it will be the main branch, correct? For now I'm using --branch x) and thanks for all the hard work guys, paper rocks!

#

and that MapLike spam, guess Mojang will release out 1.16.2 ThinkingMio

potent fossil
thorny totem
#

welp sorry xd

potent fossil
#

and yes it will be moved to master later

kind plaza
#

We switched over to paper no problems so far!

summer barn
#

why was i kicked?

kind plaza
#

idk i was randomly kicked earlier too

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

potent fossil
#

make sure you are reading the rules...idk why you were kicked (its not up for discussion)

#

but...just...keep those thangs in mind

cunning raft
#

4Weird 🖐️

summer barn
#
    a) Language or content which can be reasonably considered discriminatory.
    b) Content which is pornographic, distasteful, or excessively violent.
    c) Spamming or excessively sending messages, including repeating questions or links too frequently.
    d) Trying to buy or sell services or hire developers. This is not a marketplace.
    e) Formatting your username to be difficult to read, to impersonate others, to advertise, or to be inappropriate.
    f) Pinging server staff, moderators, or contributors.```
keen crow
#

PagChomp we have 1.16.1 paper

summer barn
#

i didnt break any of those

potent fossil
#

You don't think you did

#

It's up to moderator interpretation, and not for discussion

#

Just accept it and shh about it

cunning raft
#

i didnt break any of those
PauseChamp who asked

summer barn
#

I only want to know why so i can avoid in the future

kind plaza
#

:PauseChamp: who asked
@cunning raft I did sir

cunning raft
#

how old are you

#

am interested

kind plaza
#

who?

cunning raft
#

you

static badge
kind plaza
#

Younger than you probally

cunning raft
#

under 13?

kind plaza
#

no

#

yo like same

cosmic raft
#

@summer barn rule (d)

summer barn
#

i wasnt?

#

thats not what i was doing

lapis marlin
#

yo im so confused

potent fossil
#

apparently it's up for discussion even though it's not

cunning raft
#

4Weird 👉 ModTime

cosmic raft
#

you asked which one, now you know

#

end of that discussion now

lapis marlin
#

kashike

#

can i get access to posting cute cat pics

waxen panther
#

hmmm

#

a furry with cat pics, kinda sus

lapis marlin
#

. . .

shut marten
#

:/

lapis marlin
#

god if people actually knew what a furry was

mighty storm
#

will they be cat cats or human dressing up as cats

lapis marlin
#

the world would be 1% smarter

#

an actual cat. im not the type of person to shitpost fursuiters

mighty storm
#

good enough for me

waxen panther
#

sus

idle meteor
#

am i blind or is 1.16 just not showing up on the site for me, i click the link and it just shows me the 1.15.2 downloads and nothing else

summer barn
#

ill bring up a related, but different topic

#

you guys rules are quite vague

waxen panther
#

force refresh your page

lapis marlin
mighty storm
lapis marlin
#

i meant a LITERAL cat picture, jesus

idle meteor
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ah okay thank you!!

lapis marlin
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thanks

mighty storm
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nice p- probably shouldnt finish that

lapis marlin
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his name is Miso, like the soup

mighty storm
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god i love cats

lapis marlin
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we named him that because he looks like (you guessed it!) miso soup

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me too lmao, but a fox / raccoon is my favorite animal

summer barn
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Otters, foxes, Red panda aremine

lapis marlin
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red pandas are so cute

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i know yall are gonna be like "blegh" but i have a foxcoon (fox / raccoon hybrid) as my fursona and a red panda fursona for my discord bot

mighty storm
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red pandas arent red or pandas

lapis marlin
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^

summer barn
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red foxes arent red either

lapis marlin
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yeah

summer barn
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they are orange

mighty storm
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foxes catpleading

lapis marlin
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foxes are

mighty storm
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cute

lapis marlin
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SO CUTE

waxen panther
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viper 2

lapis marlin
summer barn
lapis marlin
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i love otters too

summer barn
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so. Ive been working on a modpack

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1.7.10 still. the title screen says 225 mods. I basically am making a fork of FTB infinity evolved expert mode

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im taking a ton more mods.ive already made at least 200 more recipe changes

lapis marlin
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neat

summer barn
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the end is now gated behind 100 hours of gameplay

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without gregtech

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its moreso for me and a couple friends

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Not really

lapis marlin
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i mean

summer barn
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I have a few videos, but not a lot

lapis marlin
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i have 300 subs lmao

summer barn
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I have like 10

lapis marlin
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neato burrito

mighty storm
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i have 0, do yall just really like subway?

lapis marlin
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subway is good

mighty storm
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why would you buy 5000 subs from subway

lapis marlin
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really good. i love subway

wet fog
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damn bro, this is a quick 1.16 release

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respect ✊

summer barn
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eye of ender needs a chemical reactor

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rip

heady spear
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Yikes insane thunderstorm and I need to walk home from the gym D:

wanton oak
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It pisses me off so much when people don't realize that when Mojang releases it, Spigot can start, and then once Spigot finishes, Paper can start, and then once Paper finishes, its forks can start

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Highlighted just like the announcement but I've had that in my head for a while

waxen panther
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The average server owner has 11 brain cells

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just laugh @ them

summer barn
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wdym?

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how are average server owners dumb?

waxen panther
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??

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Spend 30 seconds in paper help

summer barn
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ah

wanton oak
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lmfao he's not wrong

summer barn
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ill have been a server owner for 7 years this september :D

lapis marlin
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The average server owner has 11 brain cells
@waxen panther 10, considering paper 1.16 just dropped

wanton oak
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Honestly if you have to hire others to do stuff for you either you 1) don't have the needed skills to do it, 2) are too lazy to do it, or 3) (this is the category mot people fall under) have no fucking idea what you're doing and don't know how

waxen panther
wanton oak
summer barn
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Our staff work together to run the server

wanton oak
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it's also how dumbasses work

summer barn
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I dont call all the shots by myself bc i choose not to

wanton oak
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then they shit on everyone else when it's not a problem we can fix

lapis marlin
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honestly

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I am not a developer for Java

summer barn
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yea

lapis marlin
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I mean, I made one plugin

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But that took SO fucking much cherry coke y'all have no idea

wanton oak
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smh it's not hard if you know what to do

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aka if you have experience kappa

lapis marlin
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i work in javascript

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on discord bots

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its really good

wanton oak
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I just played around with a phone running Android and my god you can see the Java in it

lapis marlin
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and also fucking SHIT

wanton oak
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Discord bots are fairly simple, you just gotta know what does what you want

lapis marlin
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yeah

wanton oak
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Then it's just a puzzle until it works

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as with most things tbh but other things are a lot more complex

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Discord bots are just annoying

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excuse me what

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kudos to him for the patience but my god wtf is wrong with him

lapis marlin
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i do hope what you said is a joke

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that would be so fucking painful

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is it just like a simple 1 command bot or is it full featured stuff

wanton oak
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yeah

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wtf

lapis marlin
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like, for example, my bot does roleplay (its a furry server, shut up), all sorts of moderation, custom verification, and general commands (including an emote stealer, emote enlarger, avatar viewer, help command, etc etc etc)

wanton oak
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my god you need jesus

summer barn
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While i do happen to be furry. My server isnt geared towards that. its a general Minecraft server

lapis marlin
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well, mine is

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It's a furry / lgbtq safe haven

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my MC server isn't for furries

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my discord server is.

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I run a network (telegram, [shitty] website, discord, minecraft)

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Yes, although LOTS of people will argue that

gaunt storm
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yesss paper

summer barn
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the core definition is OK.

lapis marlin
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The definition of a furry itself is a fan of anthropomorphic (walking and talking) animals

heady spear
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No it’s not

lapis marlin
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okay @heady spear what's a furry to you

summer barn
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Its what some ppl do that ruin it for everyone :(

gaunt storm
heady spear
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I dun need to justify my opinions to u

lapis marlin
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The furry fandom itself is art-focused and cosplay focused, except with fursuits (your custom character as a suit)

heady spear
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I have a cool rank so my opinion is v important

lapis marlin
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Imagine like, roleplay but as your animal character

waxen panther
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Too many furries in general today

lapis marlin
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I have a cool rank so I'm entitled - Karen

gaunt storm
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does anyone have the direct download for paper.jar for 1.16.1

heady spear
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I’d rather be a Karen than a furry

gaunt storm
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the website doesnt have download

wanton oak
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why would you encourage furries

lapis marlin
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and why do you dislike furries?

heady spear
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Same reason I dislike ticks

wanton oak
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actually on MC-Market my name is CreeperKaren

heady spear
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And mosquitos

lapis marlin
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if you bring up the csi episode or the weird shit with animals, your opinion is invalid

wanton oak
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I'm the residential Karen

waxen panther
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Love u city

heady spear
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I hate u