general

[twin lagoon]

lmao

[uncut moss]

i noticed lol

that's stupid

also tf is this bot they're using

[minor badge]

a very very common bot

[uncut moss]

never seen it before

looks like a russian scam

[heady spear]

Lol you’re really reaching there bud

[uncut moss]

lol ik

[heady spear]

I'd be kinda annoyed if you joined my server and talked about how other forks of the projects are better

very understandable

[vestal jasper]

mfw not knowing yagpdb

[waxen panther]

It's everywhere

[uncut moss]

🤷 i wouldn't care but each to their own ig

[vestal jasper]

and you've been on discord for 4 years

[waxen panther]

You would care

[uncut moss]

longer than 4 years

[vestal jasper]

8/29/2016, 8:49:33 AM

actually not

[uncut moss]

i have an older account from like sep 2015

[vestal jasper]

unless this isn't your first account

[waxen panther]

if you had spent as long on a project as he has you would absolute care if someone kept saying a fork was better

when did i join vic

[vestal jasper]

12/29/2016, 5:30:27 PM

[uncut moss]

care sure but i wouldn't get triggered about it

[heady spear]

But it's not only that lol, people join Spigot to talk about how trash it is, and how Paper is so much better etc, not realising that Paper is a fucking Spigot fork

[vestal jasper]

I'm 5/22/2016, 9:49:19 PM

[uncut moss]

i also never said spigot was bad

[heady spear]

I never said you did.

[waxen panther]

2016 gang

[vestal jasper]

The point is after getting all the criticism and people saying X is better, you don't want to hear about X period no matter what

[uncut moss]

craftbukkit better

[heady spear]

Honestly if I were to start a server on my own I'd use CB

all these dumdum forks ruin gameplay

[vestal jasper]

nah city run your own fork

you love doing that

:)

[waxen panther]

ikr

hMod

all the way

[heady spear]

it doesn't do very well for vanilla gameplay

[uncut moss]

just use vanilla

[heady spear]

unless you want zombies phasing through walls

[waxen panther]

You're saying thats not vanilla

[heady spear]

Redstoning on anything but the vanilla server kinda blows tho ngl

paper is the worst, keeps fixing "issues" and the fixes ruin everything!!

[vestal jasper]

insert statement about how the fix-0-tick setting doesn't fix 0 tick farms but disables them

b-but it's a feature not a game breaking bug D:

[heady spear]

Back when I played on plot servers (plotme ftw) we used CB because Spigot ruined too many mechanics

was unusable

[vestal jasper]

does HV run on cb

[heady spear]

prolly doesn't

[vestal jasper]

:^)

[heady spear]

I wouldn't use that tho, no reason for multiple worlds and gamerules cover everything

spent half the night re-creating vanilla bed mechanics though, that was fun

PlayerBedEnterEvent can suck my dick, honestly.

So fucking dumb

[cosmic raft]

@heady spear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1swt-byECxY

[merry talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/vuejs/comments/gjl4lt/i_got_tired_of_having_to_babysit_my_little/

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) I got tired of having to babysit my little brother as he studied for... : vuejs - 9 comments, 104 points - tritetetra, 22h ago

[merry talon]

Electron - it felt overkill to make a website for this, so I settled on a desktop app instead

come again?

[uncut moss]

well

[void void]

[uncut moss]

making a website would be more effort

[merry talon]

how

[uncut moss]

it's more work?

[merry talon]

it's static

it's not

[uncut moss]

lol nvm he's using vue and electron

ok that's stupid

[merry talon]

look at this shit https://github.com/triangulated-tetrahedrons/branspell/blob/master/package.json

he could just auto push it to GH pages

[brazen adder]

GUYS

GTA V is free to download until 21 may

[potent fossil]

old news

[brazen adder]

😦

[void void]

zomg gta v

[potent fossil]

zomgzomgozngogogmgongomg

[brazen adder]

free game dont mind if i do 😉

[cosmic raft]

Huh

THis is a cool game

https://store.steampowered.com/app/270210/Melodys_Escape/

Steam

Melody's Escape

Run, jump and slide to the rhythm of your own music library!In Melody's Escape, advanced audio detection algorithms transcribe the energy that you feel when listening to music into a synchronized gameplay experience, with a captivating and dynamic obstacle course. The game wil...

Price

$4.99

Recommendations

4230

▶ Play video

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Melody's Escape - Run, jump and slide to the rhythm of your own music library!In Melody's... - Indie - released 20 May, 2016 - $4.49 (was $8.99)

[vernal moth]

Apperently my npc plugin triggers optifine capes

Very cool

How the fuck is one supposed to debug that?!

[left swift]

Is there a mc user with nolan

[vernal moth]

That's not the real name

It's an ender pearl

Npc is the name of the profile

[twin lagoon]

well

don't use Npc as the name then

[vernal moth]

But like, shouldn't it use uuids?...

[twin lagoon]

actually wait

capes are a toggleable skin part right

[vernal moth]

Oh, good idea

I think I send 127

I want 126 I guess

Let's hope optifine respects that

Lol

[void void]

it does

[frigid ferry]

Anyone have huge lagspikes when crossing chunk borders for certain chunks in certain directions?

[heady spear]

@cosmic raft omg

[cosmic raft]

:D

[void void]

@frigid ferry are you in an amplified world?

[frigid ferry]

no

It's a plot world made by P²

[void void]

wow teachers are stupid

quite a few of them can't even zoom in on a photo

[left swift]

Boomers amirite

[olive marlin]

@frigid ferry server side or client side FPS drop? If the second, then see MC-162253 and paper 3360 ticket.

[frigid ferry]

FPS drop

[void void]

server side fps drop hehe

[vernal moth]

Wow, I had 1k users on my mapping viewer in the last 28 days

On Google analytics, so excluding ad block users

Glad so many ppl like that hack jobs, lol

I guess I really should spend some time to make it better

[limber knot]

and make it dark 👀

[vernal moth]

That's easy actually

[void void]

yes, dark theme all the things

[vernal moth]

I used quasar for that,didn't I?

Quasar has inbuild dark mode

[void void]

wow wtf

who'd even use ctrl-c/x/v with emacs

[latent valve]

[waxen panther]

TempleOS is best tho

[left swift]

[void void]

wtf

[left swift]

Small emoji with words big emoji alone

[void void]

rules

there we go

:nixos:

where

nuke bsd

wait what

my school is still using flash

[slim nymph]

@vernal moth it needs love. like searching for block.java is impossible lol. and is param names not included?

[limber knot]

nope, only nms and spigot class names

guess it needs filters and shit

[slim nymph]

it needs to have extension i think and maybe regex in general

[upper flicker]

no nixos because I couldnt find an easy grab and go transparent background logo for them

and I was too lazy to crop it out

[limber knot]

https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniMappingViewer/issues/10 heh

[void void]

cos lower end server stuff is always cheaper

[limber knot]

oh its not your issue

ill create an issue for v2 I guess

[void void]

yep, high end server stuff is always at a premium

sound about right

its just always like that with servers, they payed a large premium for that chip upgrade so you get to too

[limber knot]

if anybody else has improvement ideas for minimappingviewer -> https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniMappingViewer/issues/55

a view/whatever that doesn't tell me "no spigot mappings found" if I don't even care about spigot mappings (only want to look at moj mappings) :D

[elfin mantle]

where did i go wrong

[minor badge]

KennyTV, you stank

[left swift]

No avi andy

[cunning raft]

hey phoenix if you're in the chat, does chestshop's Breeze config system have a repo anywhere else?

[limber knot]

no

or well, not that I'm aware of, lol

[cunning raft]

yeah i didn't see it under Acrobot's github so i didn't know if it was hiding somewhere

[upper flicker]

fucking rip https://about.fb.com/news/2020/05/welcome-giphy/

[left swift]

[cunning raft]

Makes sense

Giphy hides behind a giant company like facebook

because sooner or later they are going to get sued for copyright

[limber knot]

giphy was dead the moment they added a shitty gallery

[cunning raft]

but this doesn't look good for people who use Giphy that aren't facebook

Facebook and maintaining public apis don't mix

[limber knot]

companies should just setup their own host if they need video hosting so badly -.-

or, you know, use any of the paid options that don't include some shitty social network

e.g. streamable is only $29/mo with unlimited videos and length

[void void]

How do I fix that ''waiting for chunk'' issue when generating new chunks with an elytra?

you talking about waiting for a new chunk to generate?

[pseudo onyx]

Can I use Paper for rlcraft?

New to server hosting

[fallen oracle]

Probably not. Iirc that's modded.

[pseudo onyx]

So what can I use to reduce lag in an rl craft server

[quasi iris]

@void void i think it is enabled by default but do you have the option in paper enabled that prevents players from walking, flying, whatever into unloaded chunks? going into unload chunks iirc breaks async chunk loading so they added that feature as a workaround

[twin lagoon]

lag is a feature

[pseudo onyx]

lmao

aight thanks boys

[void void]

lags a feature where i play on

10 - 15tps is the sweet spot

tho last half hour has been at 2tps so ye

[normal mulch]

Does anyone have a good plugin for making chest guis?

[left swift]

.g spigotmc chest gui

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-gui-inventory/ -- Creating a GUI Inventory | SpigotMC - High Performance...: "public ExampleGui() { // Create a new inventory, with no owner (as this isn't a real inventory), a size of nine, called example inv =..."

[normal mulch]

I mean plugin

I am not trying to code a plugin

is there anything already made?

[limber knot]

@P​ro​xi​my​st​ I may have stunken, but you stink

[left swift]

Google it

[vernal moth]

Fyi

Mojang updated the commercial usage guidelines again

With clarification for virtual currencies

[heady spear]

I want to be able to have huge flashing ads ingame, why is that not allowed

I think it's very unreasonable

[wide chasm]

Get 200 points by watching this ad!

[cunning raft]

you can charge for access to your server now

didn't know that

[vernal moth]

You could always do that

[cunning raft]

Thought the EULA banned that a long time ago

[void void]

why don't more servers do that then

[cunning raft]

I know Mineplex got in trouble for that

with their beta server which was donors only

[blazing nebula]

really?

[cunning raft]

yeah

this was years ago

[wide chasm]

Because no one is gonna pay a fee when you haven't ever played on the server before, Nirvana.

[blazing nebula]

I thought that was always allowed

[cunning raft]

they could have done something else idk

[void void]

true, it's a miracle that other services survive then

[blazing nebula]

It was also meant for patreon servers and such where only patreon supporters could play

[void void]

maybe it needs a free trial

[wide chasm]

Yeah, most services have free trials.

[vernal moth]

I am pretty sure charge for access was always fine

[vernal moth]

As long as the charge is equal

[cunning raft]

lmao they put mixer before twitch

[wide chasm]

Don't know what Mojang's stance is on offering a free trial for paid servers, though.

[void void]

i'm sure like everything with making money they don't like it

[blazing nebula]

wait you can't pay for promotions?

[vernal moth]

Wat

[cunning raft]

you can

just has to be very clear

[vernal moth]

Guys please

[blazing nebula]

ah gotcha

[vernal moth]

Just read it

[cunning raft]

yeah it's a quick read

[blazing nebula]

where

[cunning raft]

https://account.mojang.com/terms#commercial

[vernal moth]

Mojang wants you to make money

[blazing nebula]

did it update?

[void void]

lmao they put mixer before twitch

ordered alphabetically?

...

wait

no

[cunning raft]

youtube is first

[void void]

nvm

ye

[vernal moth]

Lmao

[void void]

if mojang wanted you to make money, pay to win would still be allowed

[vernal moth]

Pay to win is kinda allowed now

Read it

[blazing nebula]

was it ever allowed tho it hasn't been for a while

[vernal moth]

Also, they just want a good player experience

[cunning raft]

sell entitlements that affect gameplay provided that they do not adversely or negatively another player’s experience and provided they do not give a competitive gameplay advantage.

A competitive gameplay advantage is something that, given identical skill levels, time investment, and circumstances, can cause one player or group to perform better than another.

That's pretty anti pay-to-win

for multiplayer stuff at least

[blazing nebula]

The Shaft 🤣

[cunning raft]

if a server does solo campaign based things

with no leaderboard

i guess you could charge for better weapons, etc

[vernal moth]

We have an RPG server with no direct pvp

We can sell alllll the thing

S

Every Towny server or shit like they

Can also sell all the things

[blazing nebula]

become competitive by adding gameplay elements such as a leaderboard. rip every servers leaderboard

[vernal moth]

That may get further explained too

Analytical stuff may be fine

[blazing nebula]

Mojang should just:

1. Allow P2W
2. Require payments be through Mojang where they take a cut
3. Profit

It could be integrated right into minecraft like how steam purchases work

[vernal moth]

But like, if this affects you, talk to brand management

No that would be shit

[cunning raft]

^

[vernal moth]

As it's a bad player experience

[blazing nebula]

How

Oh

p2w

[void void]

integrating it would mean having official mojang plugins

[vernal moth]

Mojang already processes payments for bedrock partnered servers, just fyi

No it wouldnt?

[cunning raft]

that's a good way to kill the entire java playerbase

[vernal moth]

You just get APIs

[blazing nebula]

I've seen some servers do p2w well, and some do it really badly

[void void]

well how else would you integrate that into the 1.8 stuff they're still running

[cunning raft]

I've seen some servers do p2w well, and some do it really badly
and they get blacklisted and have to go thru dns hell

[vernal moth]

Why would mojang care about 1.8?

[blazing nebula]

I've heard blacklist is easy to bypass (don't have any experience with it myself)

[void void]

cos most servers would refuse to update cos pvp

[vernal moth]

It's not a mojang issue?

[cunning raft]

oh?

[vernal moth]

They just need to patch the srv bypass and we would be fine 🤷

[fallen oracle]

Wouldn't they have to go back and do it for all the versions tho?

[pulsar wigeon]

nothing

[blazing nebula]

oh sorry

[pulsar wigeon]

jesus

[limber knot]

they just need to actually pursue legal actions, lol

[cunning raft]

they just need to actually pursue legal actions, lol
yeah idk why they aren't

considering they're under microsoft now

[limber knot]

because bad PR and no money n it

*in

[cunning raft]

true

[vernal moth]

They send out C&D letters now tho

[blazing nebula]

and its a ton of effort for what

[vernal moth]

Not for eula shit yet

[blazing nebula]

legal action is expensive

[vernal moth]

But alt sites and shit

[blazing nebula]

although once they win a few times, everyone would get scared and back down

[cunning raft]

Alt sites

[fallen oracle]

👋

[cunning raft]

glare had a very compelling application

[void void]

someone messed with the order of his roles wasn't it

[blazing nebula]

i just like glares pfp

[void void]

i swear glare was a mod before

[pulsar wigeon]

only for like 3 days

[void void]

why only 3

[cunning raft]

barty every time you ask for CMI migration

one commit gets reverted from the migrator

[fallen oracle]

So like, the CMI is kinda there but like

I can't get it to actually run, something with IDB. Waiting for Aikar to look at the error I posted in his lib channel.

If he can solve it, I can get it working.

It's throwing some HikariCP pool errors

So if he has an idea on how to fix it, I'll happily get it ready for you to test.

I wouldn't do that, I don't mind waiting for him to respond.

I left a message yesterday morning, I'm patient.

Been working on some MCBanners stuff.

[upper flicker]

@fallen oracle can I share your application video? So as to inspire others

[fallen oracle]

Sure, why not.

[upper flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395279435538104320/709915186961842256/Glare_For_PaperMC_Mod.mp4

[limber knot]

I hate that discord doesn't allow direct video playback -.-

[cunning raft]

did you just copy paste from okbr or did you make that glare

it does phoenix

[limber knot]

no, it doesn't

[fallen oracle]

No I didn't make that haha, but I just felt it fit perfectly. It actually just came across my desk while I was talking to Z.

[limber knot]

you have to download the video instead of viewing the URL in the browser

[cunning raft]

ohhh

[pulsar wigeon]

oh, the cdn, not the app

[fallen oracle]

I really don't know where it came from but it came across my desk about 10 minutes after I told Z I wanted to apply for mod.

Maybe a discord staff member was watching our chats.

And helped me slide in.

[upper flicker]

You didn’t send it to me until like 2 days after though

[fallen oracle]

Oh rly?

[upper flicker]

Ye

[fallen oracle]

I don't remember many timeframes this week. 15 hours of exams.

[upper flicker]

We’d already discussed it internally when you sent me that

[fallen oracle]

Ahh

[upper flicker]

It was so bad we had to basically start over

[fallen oracle]

Lol

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean, seems mostly true tbh

[cunning raft]

#staff smh

[pulsar wigeon]

lmao jroy thinks he's all cool seeing hidden channels

doesn't even know what he's talking about

[cunning raft]

shhh wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

bans barty

[upper flicker]

wiz is cool despite the fact he can ban you

[cunning raft]

😳

[pulsar wigeon]

tru

they deserved it

probably, tbh i didn't even realize you ever had friends

[cunning raft]

anymore at least

after they pinged wiz

[upper flicker]

@pulsar wigeon

[fallen oracle]

😮

[static badge]

@pulsar wigeon

[cunning raft]

bye z

nice knowing you

[upper flicker]

:’)

[upper flicker]

Leaf gone doe

[pulsar wigeon]

so r u

[upper flicker]

Yep there it is

[void void]

wait was that glares mod application video

[pulsar wigeon]

you just don't know it yet

[upper flicker]

What’d you throw me out of enginehub

[pulsar wigeon]

yea

didn't expect you to find out that fast

[upper flicker]

Nothing of value lost there

[pulsar wigeon]

figured you'd have forgotten about it entirely

[upper flicker]

Except my pretty name

[void void]

fight fight fight

[upper flicker]

Tbh I kinda want my pretty name back

brb rejoin

[twilit frigate]

i just hosted an event on my server and no one turned up ;c

[void void]

do you not like the Z name

[static badge]

I don't think I'm even in eigenhub or whatever

[pulsar wigeon]

new discord feature

[void void]

poort Z

[pulsar wigeon]

for cool servers

[static badge]

enginehub

[pulsar wigeon]

aka not you barty

[static badge]

confusing it with the other server

[pulsar wigeon]

yes

[upper flicker]

I added that before they sent us the public servers message

[pulsar wigeon]

like paper and enginehub

[upper flicker]

Since like three other servers got it a day before us

But it was there so whatever

[fallen oracle]

I think Aikar is playing with us Barty, he just updated IDB

Oh nvm that was last night. Didn't look at commit time.

[upper flicker]

Oh yeah I should fix our server icon too

[woven otter]

I heard that there was "ping wiz" party

[void void]

wait chargeback

what

[pulsar wigeon]

barty do you want to get kicked too

smh

[void void]

wiz is high and mighty right now

all hail wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

yall running out of fucking jokes here

[cunning raft]

wiz, why do you dislike pings so much. asking honestly

[pulsar wigeon]

"haha ping wiz haha"

[cunning raft]

can anyone actually ping you?

is there a valid reason to ping you?

asking honestly

[upper flicker]

I ping wiz when I’m lonely at 3am

[static badge]

wiz

[upper flicker]

He just tells me to fuck off

😦

[pulsar wigeon]

yea have had like 1 or 2 valid pings where moderation was needed

[static badge]

you know what makes pinging you so funny

[pulsar wigeon]

cuz apparently i am only mod around ever

[static badge]

the fact you go on about it like it's the end of the world

[void void]

1 or 2 out of how long you've been a mod

[pulsar wigeon]

i don't even tho leaf

[static badge]

sure

[pulsar wigeon]

every one just constantly thinks it's hilarious to crack jokes about it

[static badge]

keep telling yourself that

[cunning raft]

why don't you like them tho wiz

[waxen panther]

Stefvan is a good mod

[pulsar wigeon]

i literally don't do anything except telling people not to

[static badge]

I only tell them not to

[pulsar wigeon]

wouldn't be an issue if you kids didn't make it one

[static badge]

removes z from enginehub

[limber knot]

just ignore pings

[void void]

damn them kids. get off my lawn

[pulsar wigeon]

nah, blackhole is

[upper flicker]

That even looks good on mobile tbh

[pulsar wigeon]

pretty sure he only has 1 message in this server ever

[static badge]

.g enginehub discord

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://discord.com/invite/enginehub -- EngineHub: "EngineHub's official Discord. We make Minecraft mods like WorldEdit, WorldGuard, CraftBook, CommandBook, and more! | 7283 members."

[static badge]

perfect

[upper flicker]

Wow bot not being garbage

[waxen panther]

A server where wiz has even more power?

[pulsar wigeon]

that's surprising

[waxen panther]

[pulsar wigeon]

eh, technically my powers are essentially the same

i guess there i have more weight tho

[static badge]

you can't remove z from here can you

so you don't have the same powers

[pulsar wigeon]

es

[upper flicker]

Not without revealing that we’re a puppet state

[pulsar wigeon]

public servers actually

[static badge]

puppet state

[pulsar wigeon]

as in browsable from the discovery shit

it's verified + opt in for public

you can get verified and opt to not be public

[limber knot]

kinda strange that it doesn't work on the website

[void void]

oh the server only has 4 boosts

[pulsar wigeon]

higher than you have barty

:^)

[upper flicker]

They dunno

[pulsar wigeon]

yea they've been super washy with it

[upper flicker]

All of it is frozen and they’re redoing it or something

It’s been super random

[pulsar wigeon]

most of us got in with the "open source project" ticket

[cunning raft]

it's been frozen for like a year

[woven otter]

pinging wiz is the best joke tho. you can't argue with that

[pulsar wigeon]

but i think they got overwhelmed with those so they started cutting down on shit

[woven otter]

like we have an entire culture built around it here

[cunning raft]

pinging wiz is the best joke tho. you can't argue with that
it's at this point

[woven otter]

is it

[upper flicker]

An entire culture of poking the bear then crying when it bites your hand off

[static badge]

bites

hits

[void void]

brilliant culture

[static badge]

[cunning raft]

haha i pinged wiz i have a mental disorder

[woven otter]

why would you cry Z

[upper flicker]

Autocorrect failed me

[static badge]

watch out josh

[void void]

needs autocorrect smh

[static badge]

you know z pinged him 5 mins ago

[cunning raft]

lmao

z you don't count

[upper flicker]

Only reason I can type so fast on mobile. Just lean on autocorrect and make it do everything

[cunning raft]

my statement applies to whitenames only

[static badge]

using black theme

[woven otter]

crying as Z

[upper flicker]

Barty if it makes you feel better, we can’t use custom emojis in our welcome screen because we aren’t boosted enough

[void void]

typing on mobile sucks, at least it's not on t9 anymore

[woven otter]

ur literally an eye that's all you do

[upper flicker]

So clearly verification doesn’t get you everything

[static badge]

wait what

you need boosts for that

[pulsar wigeon]

yea

it's dum

[upper flicker]

Yeah it’s super inconsistent

I’ve no idea why

[cunning raft]

aren't you supposed to have all the perks

wtf

[pulsar wigeon]

yea it's ridiculously high

[upper flicker]

I don’t even like paying for nitro classic.

And there are people who pay to self boost their whole server

pepega

[cunning raft]

i still only pay for emotes and because i don't want to pay the more expensive version down the road

[pulsar wigeon]

people need to stop shoveling over cash to discord so they learn how ridic this is

[static badge]

emotes are the only good reason to pay

ah yes

[pulsar wigeon]

but as long as people shell out they're gonna keep adding more retarded shit

[static badge]

we all know discord is gonna explode due to inability to profit

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean, they would if people didn't buy emotes basically rofl

[cunning raft]

cr1tikal's video on discord really summed up my thoughts

[limber knot]

they only need to give people the ability to self host a server while still using their account system and client ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar wigeon]

they were seriously struggling to make profit early on

[upper flicker]

never going to happen phoenix

[pulsar wigeon]

investors mustve been knocking at their door demanding roi

[upper flicker]

Never ever

[pulsar wigeon]

that's how you get them tho

[limber knot]

it would safe them massive amounts of cost while still allowing to profit off of the user data

[pulsar wigeon]

make everything free at the beginning to get everyone on your platform

[upper flicker]

For a self hosted federated thing you should just go to riot or whatever

[pulsar wigeon]

then charge for dumb shit people will roll over for

[limber knot]

I mean Teamspeak is going that route ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper flicker]

It’s never ever coming to discord

[limber knot]

s/riot/matrix

Correction, <DiscordBot> <07Z​75​0> For a self hosted federated thing you should just go to matrix or whatever

runs

[static badge]

you know what we need

irc

and teamspeak

[upper flicker]

Yeah I couldn’t remember what the proto was

[limber knot]

but uh, matrix communities aren't as nice as discord guilds yet

at least they have encryption I guess

[upper flicker]

I thought people preferred mumble with irc because open source

And someone said better voice quality(?)

[cunning raft]

ltt did a vid on that i think

years ago tho

[limber knot]

afaik TS voice quality is on par nowadays

they also expose channel topics when hidden ;)

[cunning raft]

the new discord api changes are stupid as fuck

[upper flicker]

Tbh most people don’t care as long as it’s not full robot

[cunning raft]

marking the join event as privileged

but you can still listen to join messages discord itself makes

wtf

[upper flicker]

Check your privilege

[pulsar wigeon]

are we listing off all of discord's issues?

cuz we could be here for days

[limber knot]

so you can actually get private information and exploitthrough the topic

[cunning raft]

cuz we could be here for days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh7_POC2ueQ

because bots and moderation?

[pulsar wigeon]

cLiEnTsIdE sEcUrItY

[limber knot]

imagine a company that has the link to a public google sheet with all ther contact info or even passwords in a channel topic or something xD

[static badge]

just ban the 3rd party clients kappa

[cunning raft]

[upper flicker]

Tbh that’s part of why I don’t tweak the client. Discord is all over on what they’ll do

[static badge]

your bot should also auto nick me btw

[upper flicker]

Keep hearing random horror stories about people getting banned

[limber knot]

they get banned for doing stupid spam shit

[upper flicker]

Then what happens to the guild if I’m banned

[static badge]

yeah no it ain't worth using the 3rd party client

lol I think nobody becomes the admin

[cunning raft]

I would never modify the discord client as it would:

1. be unethical
2. violate tos
3. upset the discord dev

[limber knot]

iirc guilds get deleted if the owner is banned or something ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper flicker]

The other devs have server admin now, presumably they just transfer full ownership to them

[static badge]

simple was rightly banned for a dox attempt

[upper flicker]

But I’m technically the owner

[static badge]

oh I meant owner

[upper flicker]

idk not worth the risk

[static badge]

probably what happens is owner is just gone kek

durr hurr banned acc still owner

I doubt they thought it through

[cunning raft]

i move all the discord servers i own to a separate account i never use

in case i get banned

[static badge]

kek

[upper flicker]

Thanos snap the guild right out of existence randomly

[waxen panther]

Just don’t get banned

[cunning raft]

idk

[static badge]

maybe the guild dying would be a good thing

[waxen panther]

Also they do transfer ownership if the owner is banned

[static badge]

go back to irc

[cunning raft]

i try not to get banned lmao

[static badge]

free of all the plebians

[cunning raft]

go back to irc
if only

[upper flicker]

You’re free to go use irc and ignore like half of them

[limber knot]

nothing stopping you beyond the willingness to cater to plebs

runs

look maybe if your bot was trash and dropped half of the messages

I could do that

but nooooo

you have to make it work

[upper flicker]

lol

[cunning raft]

the discord ratelimit is fucky tbf

[limber knot]

make it function

[upper flicker]

I’ll make a leaf4irc fork that just randomly shits itself if you want

[limber knot]

I mean it's in kotlin so what do you expect, pull requests?

kek

I still have leafChat 2 installed

[static badge]

I think

[upper flicker]

You installed it?

I just ran it directly

[static badge]

I'm a windows user

installing it and running it is the way

[waxen panther]

[fallen oracle]

@spare venture

[cunning raft]

System.out.println

nice bait

[fallen oracle]

I fixed it by removing support for MySQL

[cunning raft]

some 12 year old on my server got angry because i said his uuid in chat

[magic ice]

[static badge]

kek

[cunning raft]

len is not defined

[static badge]

sure that works

but

using list.removeIf is better

ah yes

[cunning raft]

tf

oh yeah that makes sense

[waxen panther]

The grading for code at my college meant that you had to do everything as verbose as possible

[cunning raft]

isn't the only reason you're allowed to because of covid

i doubt they're going allow that next year

wish i had access to google when i took mine

they said using an IDE is not advantageous since the implementation of getters aren't shown
wut

[waxen panther]

That’s dumb lol

[cunning raft]

ahhh i got yeah

[waxen panther]

Our uni gives full access to the whole source of the exams

[cunning raft]

i mean the ap cs exam is not very realistic

normally at least

[waxen panther]

Idk what ap is

What level is that

[cunning raft]

you don't hand write code

[waxen panther]

I’m British

[cunning raft]

High School

[worthy zenith]

the cs ap exam was a joke when i took it

[waxen panther]

Ahh

Makes sense

We had to hand write ASM in HS

Absolute aids

[cunning raft]

if you know java tho it's easy asf

i took it freshman year hs

oh that's

i didn't even have to take the ap class

hardest ap

APs are standardized what r u on

some teachers prob make it better or worse

yeah

enough

[waxen panther]

American education sounds weird

[cunning raft]

School is literally pay to win

A private organization said i did better at this exam so i should have a higher chance at getting into this college

the system works!

ok that's enough politics for #general today

yes

[pulsar wigeon]

driving an hour a day also sounds expensive

at least interms of time if not money

[cunning raft]

they could make students apply for an educational license to jetbrains

and clion for free

[granite salmon]

lmao people like that

dumb

[ember crag]

Good luck getting a refund for digital goods. ;)

That's one of the easiest things for a buyer to lose on.

[upper flicker]

this is why you dont purchase digital goods

the only goods you should be purchasing are tacos

[waxen panther]

You mean I shouldn't have bought paper?

damn

[limber knot]

Z750 is gonna get scurvy from his monolithic diet

[static badge]

tacos are bads

not goods

[waxen panther]

leafs are bad

[upper flicker]

youre thinking of leafs

[static badge]

no I'm thinking of tacos

and they're pretty bad

[limber knot]

i was reminded the other day of the tragedy that is the fact that you can't get good fish tacos where i live

[upper flicker]

yeah but here's the thing about fish tacos

even the best fish taco is not as good as a normal taco

[static badge]

z

can you tell me the point

of comparing a trash dump to a trash heap

[upper flicker]

idk, I wasnt talking about maple leaves vs pine leaves

[static badge]

wtf

[limber knot]

i like fish tacos because i don't like cheese but i'm sure that's an even more controversial opinion

[neat smelt]

@still smelt you liar, the site dosnt load ):

[uncut moss]

chicken taco > * taco

[void void]

ha Technical Advisors COmpany

TACO

hu they even got a fake award

[vestal jasper]

I do not enjoy the 3 fucking sidewalk blockades on my way to work

[void void]

yes

[blazing nebula]

How do you define a type that is a class implements an interface (If I have class C and interface I, I need type that is C implements I)

[void void]

i don't use .commodore files

i use brigadier directly

what are you on about

[blazing nebula]

@still smelt trying to use this in a map and that didn't work

[void void]

have you actually done any statistics to back that claim?

[pulsar wigeon]

file thing looks dumb honestly

[waxen panther]

eeeeeeeeeeh

[fallen oracle]

Timings AI would be kinda cool. Like it would scan the report when you upload and when you view the page if something is within the threshold, it would say something like "You have a lot of mobs, try XYZ to fix it".

That's true.

Scrap that idea.

[upper flicker]

that's another wish list idea

aikar has talked about it in the past

hell, about as long as there's been timings

[fallen oracle]

Z which bot in here would be best to implement a thing to auto turn long stuff into a paste.gg link?

[upper flicker]

I mean, everyone constantly posts that optimize guide on spigot forums

[fallen oracle]

I saw the IRC connection one is in Rust, don't know rust.

[upper flicker]

that thing is pepega for vanilla shit

the irc connection one?

[fallen oracle]

Korobi

[upper flicker]

thats just a bot, he doesnt do the irc connection

I didnt think he was in rust but good for them

[fallen oracle]

I think it is at least, unsure.

Just don't know what bot in Paper would handle that paste thing

If it's in a language I know, I could try it.

[upper flicker]

either be korobi or a new one

I have a lot of random wishlist/nice to have stuff that'd probably clump together and make a new one

the discord<->irc bridge itself is the wrong place for a lot of that

[fallen oracle]

Ya

I might try to finish my PR for timings to tell them they're outdated. I just have to move some stuff around iirc.

[blazing nebula]

wait is there no way to apply multiple conditions to a wildcard?

that is not a riddle

[kindred storm]

you bet I sure would

1 million euros?

[blazing nebula]

I have no use for euros, I only take freedom currency

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: $1.08 million (US dollars) (15/05/2020) - https://is.gd/UF83M9

[blazing nebula]

but it's not freedom currency, i'd get it in euros

[wide chasm]

I'd take the chance

.8ball did I get the million euros?

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... You're kidding, right?

[wide chasm]

... Is that yes or no?

[kindred storm]

that's unfortunate

[void void]

.8ball am i smart?

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Without a doubt

[void void]

woooh

[pulsar wigeon]

wow, the bot is so nice

it makes dumb people feel good about themselves

[void void]

shush wiz, shush

[celest coyote]

.8ball is wiz lying

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... My sources say no

[celest coyote]

confirmed

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Concentrate and ask again

[granite salmon]

Damn this bot is accurate

[slim nymph]

Heard yall like entities:

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... You're kidding, right?

[blazing nebula]

ahhahahh

[granite salmon]

REALLY good

[blazing nebula]

perfect

[slender jay]

damn

[blazing nebula]

it technically is a programming language though, like the first definition on google says A programming language is a vocabulary and set of grammatical rules for instructing a computer or computing device to perform specific tasks. which HTML fits

[slender jay]

And yet its name says otherwise

[celest coyote]

.8ball are all webdevs mentally insane

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Concentrate and ask again

[celest coyote]

.8ball are all webdevs mentally insane

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Don't count on it

[celest coyote]

dang

[blazing nebula]

.8ball is 8ball accurate

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Yes

[celest coyote]

atleast 1 web dev thats not insane

[blazing nebula]

damn okay

[celest coyote]

.8ball is coronavirus real

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Outlook good

cats /dev/random into kicash32's ear.

[celest coyote]

jokes on you, my ears are already shot

[fallen oracle]

Anyone good with regex? Trying to match timings regex with this git-Paper-\d+ but git-Paper-"b0a9e61" isn't hitting it. Now, something like git-Paper-280 is hitting it.

But I think I need to incorporate it to match commit hashes too, eh?

Yup that works

Yeah cause for some reason it's saying it doesn't match in the code but in the regex teser it does.

[twin lagoon]

what language?

PCRE (PHP)?

[wide chasm]

[0-9a-f]{7}

[celest coyote]

there are different variants of regex so you gotta use the right syntax

[twin lagoon]

that

[wide chasm]

To match numbers or a-f seven times

May match incorrect stuff, but should always match correct stuff.

[twin lagoon]

\b[0-9a-f]{5,40}\b

[fallen oracle]

React

JS

[twin lagoon]

for an SHA1 hash

[wide chasm]

Replace the \S+ with what I typed and that should be it.

[slim nymph]

well, you ultimately only want numbers glare

and ignore hashes

just label hashes as "Custom Compile"

[fallen oracle]

Okay so then I'll just leave it as the original

[uncut moss]

gläré is valid pronounciation in swedish

[fallen oracle]

That means I need to change the data set you give

[uncut moss]

sounds like some disgusting food

[fallen oracle]

Now the real question is how to decompile this because stupid windows isn't letting me decompile the report to json

[wide chasm]

I usually just avoid regex as much as possible, Viper.

[uncut moss]

i hate regex

trying to figure out what random uncommented regex does is

hard

[celest coyote]

my current work project involves multiple lines of regex :x

safe to say 100s of lines

[twin lagoon]

wat

[uncut moss]

there's so many more tlds than that

[celest coyote]

why are you matching specific domain

[wide chasm]

Regex is hard to read, hard to understand, potentially a performance bottleneck and the matcher has a lot of quirks that are unintuitive.

[celest coyote]

match arbritrary domain

[twin lagoon]

hi bart

[fallen oracle]

Nice.

Still doesn't match that LOL

[tulip inlet]

dont you need \\d

[uncut moss]

console.log("here");

i think what 56738 said

[upper flicker]

I mean, you only need to match what you care about

[uncut moss]

gotta escape the backslash

[upper flicker]

Not a huge fan of regex but when you need it to be configurable there aren’t a lot of better options

I don’t know what random joe blow user is gonna want

[olive marlin]

Viper I sent you the regex yesterday.

[uncut moss]

firefox doesn't check if there's a valid tld and it's fucking annoying

[upper flicker]

I think they were going to start

I think

[uncut moss]

annoying af when trying to search for something with dots in without spaces

[olive marlin]

Fun fact - a single space is a valid domain.

[upper flicker]

There was some drama about that

But yeah that gets me all the time

[static badge]

yeah that's an annoying firefox issue

[fallen oracle]

matches: null

Pog

[olive marlin]

Yeah, it matched all valid domains, from what I've tested and read in RFC.

[upper flicker]

Yeah that Firefox thing is marked as resolved in 77

[olive marlin]

I think all perms will match it too.

[upper flicker]

So when that comes out in a few months

[uncut moss]

oooooo it's been bothering me for a long while

[upper flicker]

A bunch of people are pissed about it on hacker news

[upper flicker]

Probably doing weird shit like rolling fake tlds with local dns

Which has been a no no for years now

Anyway, there’s an off for the fix too in flags

[heady spear]

why do I see Swedish

no one is allowed to be Swedish in here, that's my thing 😠

[uncut moss]

sorry

[olive marlin]

In ff you can prefix the search with search engine to use.

[slim nymph]

@fallen oracle your suppose to do /git-Paper(\d+)/.matches()

[olive marlin]

Just have the perms plugin.domain.xxx.com?

[fallen oracle]

Just realized a slight flaw in this

I only set the flags for latest or not if the latest build isn't cached.

So I need to split this out

[waxen panther]

[uncut moss]

broccoli

[void void]

Im tryna get a friend to switch from spigot to paper*. Anyone willing to explain why paper is better so I can screenshot it and send it to him 😄

[uncut moss]

moar optimize

many better

[uncut moss]

async chunk loading

idk if spigot has that now tho

but he doesn't lose anything on just trying it

[waxen panther]

yes hello am broccoli

just tell him it's better™️

[mortal zinc]

paper actually has a core development team that care about the product they're building

spigot is just md_5

contributing to the paper project is a whole lot better imo

[limber knot]

at least md pulls PRs

runs

[mortal zinc]

both do

lol

[waxen panther]

[vestal jasper]

Tbf paper has been incredible with pulls lately

Compared to what it was afew months ago

[limber knot]

👀

[cunning raft]

everyone's stuck at home

i wonder why

[fallen oracle]

POG

Except it's not setting the color on that

[twin lagoon]

why would you check for the git version though

i'd probably do Unofficial build

[fallen oracle]

There we go. It's colored now.

[uncut moss]

how does intellij searching 200+ files for a specific term instantly work

or < 3 secs

[pulsar wigeon]

indexing

[uncut moss]

wut

how can you index stuff for random terms

if i just type in "fihe9t8u2er892ehf 9"

it'd still find it fast

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean, if that term is actually in a file

yes it's indexed

it indexes your entire workspace + dependencies

why do you think it takes so long to start

[uncut moss]

it doesn't really

also doesn't use that much memory

or well it starts projects you've already opened before pretty fast

probably saves their indexed stuff on disk

[pulsar wigeon]

u don't fukin say

[uncut moss]

lol

still, doesn't really use much memory

[pulsar wigeon]

i didn't say it does

[uncut moss]

hmmm

indexing stuff for random terms is still weird

[fallen oracle]

Okie, PR updated.

[pulsar wigeon]

it's..not random

if you actually have a variable called "fihe9t8u2er892ehf" there's going to be an index entry for that

[fallen oracle]

When you're on the latest build, it'll show this

[twin lagoon]

https://open.spotify.com/track/612JlaWJl5l6VIrcBck5QB @cosmic raft

[uncut moss]

@pulsar wigeon not talking about variables

i'm talking about just text, anywhere

[waxen panther]

glare a hero

[pulsar wigeon]

dont ping me

[fallen oracle]

So the issue with that is cross version

I'd have to check if they were on 1.15.2

Or 1.16 and then calculate it on that

[uncut moss]

dnd is a thing but sure

[pulsar wigeon]

i didn't ask if dnd is a thing

i said don't ping me

[uncut moss]

i'm not going to keep track of who i can and can't ping, but i'll try my best lol

[fallen oracle]

This is one of the few times I've worked with ReactJS so Aikar might have to clean it up a bit but it shouldn't be waiting on this to run for it to render the timings.

[waxen panther]

I'd love to have a appearing offline but with dnd option

[fallen oracle]

It also uses a browser cache so after you view it, it will pull from that so it doesn't hit the paper API every time you refresh the page.

[twin lagoon]

glare is our lord and saviour

[fallen oracle]

Props to Aikar for showing me how to do browser cache in React tho

Saved me a lot of time

[vernal moth]

Who is glare?

[twin lagoon]

did someone say browser cache?

ln -s /dev/null that bitch

[fallen oracle]

The warp is probably the same issue barty

[neat yoke]

Anyone ever get this issue on boot..

[fallen oracle]

Sending u an updated jar

[uncut moss]

nice

[fallen oracle]

Much better

And it converted 22,000 users?

[void void]

i forgot, who is that alternative to OVH starting with a H with the bad cooling?

[limber knot]

Hetzner

[void void]

ah thanks

[slender jay]

H with the bad cooling

[uncut moss]

dedicated so expensive 😦

[fallen oracle]

Hey Aikar, is there a specific reasoning for using such an old version of NodeJS for Timings or is it just because it's not updated. So if you were to update to the latest react, you'd also go to the latest NodeJS LTS?

[cosmic raft]

Not really when you think about what you get for your money

[uncut moss]

yeah i know

also dedicated is way overkill for me

why does ovh not say which cpu they're using in the vps stuff

only how many vcores

[limber knot]

because one usually does not care about CPU performance in a VPS

or if you do you just buy more when you notice that you need more

[uncut moss]

i want to buy a vps to learn how to use one

because i'm bored

and because i couldn't get screen to behave last time I tried

[celest coyote]

.8ball will minecraft be multithreaded by 2022

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... You may rely on it

[celest coyote]

[olive marlin]

If you want VPS just for learning, and not to run production server, for me hcloud is the best. Using it for all my tests, despite having a dedi in OVH.

[uncut moss]

could also just set up a VM and fiddle around with it

i just wanna learn the linux command line

[olive marlin]

For me, the best was just switching to Linux. Was planning on dual booting but fell in love in just a few hours lol
You can also look into something like https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/

[uncut moss]

nope

i hate linux

as daily driver pc OS

[magic ice]

.8ball will minecraft be multithreaded well in 2022?

[olive marlin]

Everyone has their preferences - no OS is perfect.

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... You may rely on it

[magic ice]

[olive marlin]

I quite liked Linux Mint Cinnamon edition - stuff just worked.

[kindred storm]

.8ball will minecraft be multithreaded AND thread-safe in 2022?

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Ask again later

[olive marlin]

But yeah.

[uncut moss]

I've tried several distros

[olive marlin]

You can checkout the bandit over the wire.

[uncut moss]

Not a fan of any of them, windows works well for me

[neat smelt]

.8ball will minecraft be multithreaded AND thread-safe in 2022?

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Cannot predict now

[neat smelt]

):

[olive marlin]

And in hetzner you can get the VPS for like 3USD/month or so.

[uncut moss]

hetzner has vps?

[olive marlin]

Hetzner cloud?

[celest coyote]

.8ball will Paper minecraft server be multithreaded AND thread-safe in 2022?

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Cannot predict now

[celest coyote]

dang

[vestal jasper]

.8ball is leaf retarded