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heady spear
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That's the shittiest answer to that question lol

void void
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^ this

heady spear
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No, it's not always better. Completely depends on what you're doing.

gaunt trellis
heady spear
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I don't know if there's any plugin other than Multiverse that has kept up to date. MultiWorld was kinda lit back in the day, but that's been abandoned for 5 years

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Everyone seems to be using either Multiverse or Slime World Manager (although for very different reasons)

bleak urchin
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Hmm, will keep using it then

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Should I use Multiverse-Inventories, or PerWorldInventory?

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Both seem to be updated

heady spear
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PWI.

limber knotBOT
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neither, use BungeeCord

heady spear
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at least that is what I've been recommending to our users for years and that I will continue recommending

bleak urchin
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I'll consider BungeeCord/Waterfall, when I get a dedicated machine

heady spear
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although they're lame because they have no chance of corrupting your player data smh

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my per world inventory solution will be way more volatile

fallow peak
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How do I import an existing world using Hyperverse?

heady spear
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Right, we never added the import command 😛 You can use create with identical settings and it'll create the profile, and spigot will load the world. You can also load it with multiverse enabled and it will create the profile automatically when the world is initialised. Then you don't need multiverse anymore

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We need to add a better way to import worlds though I suppose

fallow peak
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Yeh ^^

bleak urchin
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Hmm, you're developing a Multiverse alternative

heady spear
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Ye, kinda

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I'm kinda excited to finish the per-world player data stuff. It doesn't crash the server anymore so I guess that's a good sign :]

bleak urchin
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Maybe I might end up using it if it's complete enough for 1.16

fallow peak
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You can use create with identical settings and it'll create the profile, and spigot will load the world.
/hv create <world> -> name of the world that already exists?

heady spear
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I think so, but I'd make like 95 backups before to be sure :p

fallow peak
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^^

heady spear
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/hv create <world> <generator> as it has no way to knowing the generator

fallow peak
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Should I make a suggestion on github?

heady spear
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Bukkit doesn't store it anywhere =]] But ye, multiverse importer will be the last thing before a release

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we need to match all other world properties first

bleak urchin
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brb backing up a world to my three computers, my PS4, my 3 phones, 3 iPods, my 3DS, my Wii and Wii U, Switch, XBox

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Oh, and another backup on my grandma's phone for an off-site backup

heady spear
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yes, that's recommended

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also backup your grandma just in case

bleak urchin
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Of course, I backup her everyday in case of coronavirus

worn ember
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@heady spear i lolled at that

heady spear
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Giving you even a tiny sliver of happiness hurts me

opaque radish
worn ember
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good

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seeing you hurt gives me more happiness

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so now you're doomed to suffer while i'm happy

golden gust
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i hope you trip

worn ember
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can you fix me some?

golden gust
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Nah

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you're the type of project that you just rm -rf and start again

worn ember
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recursive? thonkeng are there more

stiff yarrow
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Fixxxer - length 8m 16s - 3,829 likes, 195 dislikes (95.2%) - 352,854 views - Metallica - Topic on 2016.10.08

void void
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hope you trip

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inb4 ded buys this

worn ember
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my fat ass wont fit in that PepeHands

void void
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lol ur fat

golden gust
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He'd need a helmet too

stiff yarrow
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Can you heal what father's done
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine and I'm pain free
You jab another pin, jab another pin in me```
worn ember
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ok boomer

placid wing
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hi dose anybody want to join my first stream?

golden gust
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.g okdoki boomer

void void
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no

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhFnALbT5gs -- okidoki boomer - YouTube: "Jan 11, 2020 ... gib me candy you boomer aaaaaaaaa. Category. Gaming. Show more. Show less. Loading... Autoplay When autoplay is enabled, a..."

golden gust
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not that

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wtf is that

void void
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wtf cat

worn ember
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weeb

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) oki doki boomer - length 1m 3s - 165,041 likes, 6,782 dislikes (96.1%) - 3,812,492 views - senzawa on 2019.12.14

golden gust
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der

worn ember
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still weeb

wide chasm
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I don't know which one's worse

worn ember
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Show more. Show less. Loading... Autoplay When autoplay is enabled, a...

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i see scraping going on here

placid wing
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dose anybody want to join my first stream ill be doing minecraft, youtube (probably vine/try not to laugh) and maybe roblox 😀

worn ember
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can you not dude

golden gust
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not the place

worn ember
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this place is only for bullying dum cats

wide chasm
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Dark leave cat alone

void void
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hm, can someone suggest alternatives for graylog or elk stack?

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looking for something lighter

heady spear
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no

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the latest intellij update crashes so often omfg

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you can never run their latest updater, they're always poop

upper flicker
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2020.1?

heady spear
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yes

stiff yarrow
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I regret opening that video cat

heady spear
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I also had to reimport all projects D:

jagged egret
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I haven't had any issues with 2020.1 yet

stiff yarrow
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I've also had crashes, but it's a new shiny IntelliJ so I don't care

golden gust
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2020.1.1 is fine here

heady spear
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it's like this every update with them lol

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I opened a file, it froze and crashed 😄

golden gust
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2020.1 had a lot of weird issues in the EAP stage, but release seemed fine

upper flicker
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I had a ton of issues with the 2020.1 eap but havent had one with the release

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maybe Im just lucky

stiff yarrow
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I don't use the eap

heady spear
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I think ima do a reinstall

stiff yarrow
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I can blame everything on nvidia and x I'm pretty sure

golden gust
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flush caches first

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They did seemingly toy around with indexing in some form of manner

heady spear
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hm ye worth a shot

stiff yarrow
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as we all know running AMD means nothing bad ever happens in linux 😦

upper flicker
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tbh pretty much

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but the windows drivers are... not amazing

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mostly around opengl

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nvidia's windows drivers are way better

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shame their linux stuff is so awful

stiff yarrow
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😦

bleak urchin
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I wonder if the RX 580's OpenGL is better than my GTX 1050's OpenGL

stiff yarrow
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OpenGL is one of those nasty demons that can be implemented 10,000 different ways

bleak urchin
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wen eta mc with vulkan

void void
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probably never

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minecraft still runs on opengl 1.1

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gotta support all the potatoes

bleak urchin
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I'm 99% sure Minecraft discountinued OpenGL 1.1 support

void void
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and utilizes newer features by relying on opengl implementation detail

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which is mix-matching older and newer opengl api calls

pulsar haven
bleak urchin
void void
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that's not allowed by the spec; however amd/nvidia/intel opengl implementations on linux & mac allow that

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err not mac

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meant windows

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mac does not allow that; forces minecraft to run on 2.1

jagged egret
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isn't that better?

void void
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opengl 2.1?

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no fancy shaders then

jagged egret
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running entirely on one version

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as far as performance? or no

void void
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no

past lake
bleak urchin
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Alright, just two more plugin recommendations needed:

  1. DiscordSRV still the best one?
  2. Automatic broadcast plugin?
summer hamlet
jagged egret
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the first one is extremely subjective, the second you can google :P

bleak urchin
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There is just so many of them that I have no clue which one is the more recommended variant

upper flicker
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I know a lot of people use discordsrv, but I couldnt say much more than that

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automatic broadcast is kinda all over iirc

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some people just use skript, some people use cron, others just use generic announce plugin #24

bleak urchin
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If it ain't broke, don't fix/replace it I guess

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About DiscordSRV, my main complaint about it is that they change the wording of achievements for whatever reason

vestal jasper
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Afaik the claim is that the real messages are translatable in the client so the server doesn't know them?

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Even though afaik the server ships with us EN

bleak urchin
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Assembled the base plugins for my Season 2 server

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Now let's run it and see what will break devil

upper flicker
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lol good luck

bleak urchin
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Missing PlaceholderAPI, forgot to download that

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No fatal errors partyparrot

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A plugin is already asking me to update, despite having downloaded it today madpichu

ashen cliff
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3 updates a day or 🚪

wide chasm
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I think the max. I've reached on my plugin was 2 updates the same day.

celest wind
wide chasm
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"Hey can you add this?"
"Sure"
pushed update
5 minutes later
"Hey could you add this?"

ashen cliff
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8 updates in one day... nice one papermc.

wide chasm
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Never have to look into issues from users if the user is never on the latest version taps head

upper flicker
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lol

stiff yarrow
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when yay displays 37 packages to update
trissgasm

void void
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when nixos starts rebuilding whole system because of manual openssl version bump

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gentoo vibes right there

cosmic raft
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@stiff yarrow hahahahahahahahaahhaa

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you are funny

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Packages (452)

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to update

stiff yarrow
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I update daily 👀

cosmic raft
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I do not

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:P

vestal jasper
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I very much do not update daily

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I like playing the game "which updates need manual intervention that I missed"

stiff yarrow
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I live dangerously

stiff yarrow
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but #204 added some god tier API

limber knotBOT
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viper is dying from excitement as you can see

wide chasm
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I just auto update on my test server

stiff yarrow
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more than cool, its pure genius

wide chasm
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It's revolutionary

stiff yarrow
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loads up 10 IntelliJ environments to go check the implementation

wide chasm
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Sounds like a new API candidate

stiff yarrow
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I would definitely verify the event doesn't fire when the dispenser is empty first

wide chasm
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getItem is NotNull

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So I doubt that

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I guess it could return an air item, but that sounds pretty dumb imo

stiff yarrow
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well there's an opportunity to add API then

celest coyote
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go ahead

stiff yarrow
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you're better off just adding it yourself and submitting the patch

celest coyote
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or do both

stiff yarrow
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well then suggesting it is probably the correct route

celest coyote
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just do a pr and people can make suggestions and fixes to it

limber knotBOT
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by going down the nms rabbithole

celest coyote
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this is going to get ugly kazheek

limber knotBOT
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I'd suggest not doing something as generic as a triggerevent, cuz that's a lot of dirty places you would have to go down to

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or maybe not

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maybe I'm just an upsidedown guy

worn ember
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no u

trail basalt
rough rover
vagrant wave
proven hedge
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Anyone know how you can reduce Redstone Repeater lag?

stiff yarrow
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just noticed paper has a new discord banner thing 🕵️

upper flicker
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yeah hexed made it, its really nice

glossy berry
stiff yarrow
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🐝

woven otter
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buzz buzz

wooden spoke
cosmic raft
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heh

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Microsoft still running Windows Server 2012 R2 internally

sick portal
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I won't even touch that.

upper flicker
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we still have a few of those kicking around

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that was also the release that coincided with windows 8 and the awful start screen, so someone though putting that on a server was a good idea

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spoiler alert

void void
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at least it's R2

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R1's Hyper-V had huuuuge issues with running linux as guest os

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systemd-udevd basically deadlocked and made everything unusable

heady spear
cosmic raft
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@heady spear nice domain

heady spear
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package names will look derpy as fuck tho, se.hyperver ._.

cosmic raft
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could be worse

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one of mine is ugly too

sacred wharf
slim nymph
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make sure you use dyp in the package name for deletes your players

heady spear
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I don't really delete anything, I just mess them up a little

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but only if they're rude

fiery dome
potent fossil
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oh dear fucking lord

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i make an api so people can check resource info on spigot

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and then the fucks come out of the woodwork

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"ye, i hit it every 10 minutes in my plugin to check for new versions so users never have to miss out whatsoever."

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me: that's a really stupid idea and if I ever had a plugin that did that on my server i would remove it instantly

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"i DoNt SeE a RuLe AbOuT rAtElImItInG"

fallen sleet
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there should be a rule for ratelimiting then

heady spear
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isn't the caching extreme anyway

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or well, a lot more than 10 minutes

potent fossil
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its 5 hours

somber kettle
potent fossil
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im not even talking about hitting the api. hit it as much as you want. but putting polling on a 10 minute scale into a public plugin???

lean gale
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Moving to a new server (required) and seeking input on the one chosen, as we don't have much experience in determining what specs are needed for decent gameplay with a medium-sized playerbase.

Current: https://www.soyoustart.com/us/offers/1804sysgame06.xml

New: https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/rise/rise-limited-edition-1/

Ping me with input, thanks in advance for anyone who takes time to look!

potent fossil
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nobody wants their server doing that bullshit

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nobody

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ok im over it, gonna go make some coffee before i have an aneurysm

heady spear
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@lean gale define medium-sized. You're quite unlikely to be needing 64GB of memory for anything, but it depends on if you want to do other shit with the server as well.

The SYS server does have an SSD which is obviously very nice. Specs are nearly identical apart from that :]]

limber knotBOT
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"medium-sized palyerbase" can mean anything from 30 to 500 xD

slim nymph
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64gb if you run multiple servers on same machine 😛

heady spear
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The bandwidth difference is pretty extreme but I didn't run into problems when we used SYS. Someone else might have better inut on that 😛

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Oh ye true. I'd probably go for the SYS machine tbh

lean gale
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One server averaging 30 players, another planned to average ~70. That's the only two worth mentioning lol

gaunt notch
lean gale
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Issue with SYS is that they're supposedly getting rid of that option which is why we are looking at alternatives.

heady spear
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If you're getting it now, then it doesn't matter does it?

lean gale
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Wdym?

heady spear
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If you have the dedi before they get rid of the option you'll be able to keep it

limber knotBOT
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they don't cancel existing contracts, lol

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they would shoot themselves in the foot if they did that. you are overpaying for an old server after all xD

lean gale
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Oh, interesting. I'll check back with the owner on that bit of info. It's likely I misinterpreted.

limber knotBOT
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(depending on age obviously)

lean gale
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If the OVH one linked isn't a great alternative, what should we be looking at to either match or surpass QOL for players while maintaining the ability to run a few servers on the same machine? Is there anything specific that doesn't look good on the OVH server linked?

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I've got no experience in this stuff lol.

heady spear
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It has nearly identical specs to the SYS machine, but half the memory and crappy mechanical harddrives

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for the same amount of money :p

lean gale
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Oof, okay. Thanks for the input

heady spear
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We used the 6700 for a while and it has decent performance

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mind you, this was 1.14 so if it worked then it should work now 😛

lean gale
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Gotcha

zealous chasm
shell vine
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i camepopcorn i sawyee_fuckin_haw i camepepega i sawshrek_pardon i praisePepeHands the lordaikar then breakpepelaugh the lawpopo

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I takeraisedhand whats mineFeelsBanMan then takeweeeee some morekashike

potent fossil
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huh, nice. started in march seriously paying back debt every time i had money to do so

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am now over 60% done

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one account left (40% of my debt lmaooo)

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but i can do dis

rustic pollen
ivory radish
heady spear
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ye simple how dare u

granite salmon
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just pretend it's not there problem solved

heady spear
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i'm only like $30k in debt so far

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can't wait for that $60k by the end of uni 😦

pearl ibex
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Holy shit.

cosmic raft
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nothing

pearl ibex
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Wut?

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Lmao.

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That looked like some shitty kind of dirty talk. thonk

cosmic raft
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~limbo are you alive?

void void
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maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe? some resumes though: {0=>26, 2=>29, 1=>25, 3=>23}

cosmic raft
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christ

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29 resumes on a shard

limber knotBOT
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he can't modify my logs, lol

ivory radish
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and now to stare at a wall and wait for someone to answer in #paper-help yay

pearl ibex
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I still remember that time when I thought kash was an Indian guy, lmao.

void void
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I currently think kash is russian

pearl ibex
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Kash be like the Chad Indian guy.

void void
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based off the russian text looking song on spotify
oh he's german

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japanese?

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i've always taken the approach with languages that if i can speak it without thinking too much i'm good. so the way schools teach them is nearly always rubbish

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they teach to be writing monkeys, rather than being fluent in the language

limber knotBOT
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my school actually started by teaching speaking English for the first two years rather than writing it ;D

void void
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good, speaking a language is a lot better for learning than writing it

limber knotBOT
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(doesn't change the fact though that most of the other 10 years focused on writing :S)

void void
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they should really be teaching common sense in a language. so that the moment they say something wrong they can easily tell

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instead of trying to recall vocab and grammar stuff

limber knotBOT
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tbh. after sitting through all the vocab and grammer stuff it kinda makes sense to me and is helping me now, years after. but when we actually learned it it was annoying af. and I was reeeally bad at it xD

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like "the teacher has a talk with your parents at home"-bad bad

ivory radish
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why is phoenix using webhooks?

limber knotBOT
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why are you chatting with a bot?

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this goes both ways :P

ivory radish
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technically i didnt talk to you at anytime but ok 😃

void void
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to this day i have absolutely no idea how polish works. no idea how the grammar rules work or anything. but i can speak it fluently and read it slowly

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we have nearly 100 ways of saying if we're playing or not playing, and i can tell which one i'm meant to use

limber knotBOT
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tbh. most people can't do that for their native language, lol

void void
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i pretty much have two native languages, learn english at school and polish from parents and family

limber knotBOT
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I had the benefit of only learning German, English and French, and all of their grammar has a certain logic (imo)

void void
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ah french in school was an absolute joke

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to this day i just remember mon aniversere est

limber knotBOT
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(although I forgot almost all of French, lol. but probably because I never used it outside of school)

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it's insane that I could watch French movies without subtitles while I was in school and two years later I didn't understand shit anymore xD

void void
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haha, that's kind of the problem with learning vocab. it's a memory exercise rather than common sense

limber knotBOT
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yeah, I only started getting a grasp on English when I started watching movies and tv series in English or reading stuff on the internet

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and that was like 8 years into learning it, lol

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lol

void void
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whats wrong with it?

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I don't particularly like england. so many fat people and the customs are rubbish

granite salmon
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i dont like my own country either

void void
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i prefer poland a lot

granite salmon
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im in the uk

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yes and no

void void
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i don't think so yet

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we're meant to be properly out by dec i think

granite salmon
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semi-out

void void
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but it's probably going to be delayed as well cos of covid

cosmic raft
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wheee

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another new command

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~limbo uptime

void void
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Uptime: 37 seconds

granite salmon
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I heard they looking for an extension xd

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blaming it on covid

void void
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they should just cancel it tbh

granite salmon
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true

void void
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that marketing stuff they did was a scam about the vote

granite salmon
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same tbh

void void
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i remember when i used to think that the british channel had dried up

heady spear
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I wish the UK would just float off into the atlantic

granite salmon
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same

void void
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i thought that you could walk accross it camping in 3 days

granite salmon
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yes

void void
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I hate the US

granite salmon
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me too

void void
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don't get why there's so many songs about it being great

granite salmon
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you think we're fat?

void void
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i think 1/2 of USA is now obese

granite salmon
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😂

void void
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90% stupid

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block hospitals?

granite salmon
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woah what's all this fake news

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you're all fake

void void
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idiots

granite salmon
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oh yes that

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aha

void void
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hang on, what does hispanic mean?

granite salmon
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they all died of corona the following day

void void
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well hispanic usa people are more likely to be obese than non hispanic

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interesting

unreal quarry
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🇺🇸

granite salmon
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nou

void void
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shows so right here

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tho the Asians don't seem to be getting obese as much

granite salmon
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😂

unreal quarry
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I'll be glad the day people stop judging people by the chunk of land they were born on peepoJuice

granite salmon
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pizza mm

void void
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I mean yes it's bad that we're judging, but given that nearly 1/2 have a life threatening thing i'd say it's fair

granite salmon
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lmao

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dear god it's 1AM tf am i doing 😂

void void
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i mean ketchup isn't a bad subsititue when you run out of the tomato sauce thing, forgot it's name

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wait i'm talking about pizza

jagged egret
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ketchup on pasta is frickin disgusting

void void
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woops wrong food haah

granite salmon
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chocolate is what keeps me alive tbh

void void
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i've never had ketchup on pasta luckily

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when you run out of the good stuff you have to put on the garbage

unreal quarry
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That's fucking gross. Everyone knows ketchup best on cereal smfh

void void
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ketchup is nice

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i have ketchup on omletes

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what

unreal quarry
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Ketchup and eggs is no joke. Love it. But chili and eegs is better ;)

limber knotBOT
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ketchup is love

golden gust
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I used to use ketchup to cover the frozen chips my mother used to force upon us

void void
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ketchup is best for killing taste

golden gust
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I just... ketchup is tainted to me

void void
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i agree

unreal quarry
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Mayo or Miracle Whip? Go.

void void
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i don't get why people like their eggs liquidy. for me it's solid or disgusting

unreal quarry
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You don't drink eggs?

void void
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i don't need more muscles

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wtf microwave eggs

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i thought chemistry is cooking

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just don't lick the spooon haha

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i've found that nutella isn't all that good. tastes a bit plain

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well i'm going to go throw it out the windows then

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i'm sure the neightbours will appreciate free nutella

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i haven't drank coke in years pretty much. fizzy drinks are painful for me

ivory radish
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i stopped drinking cocacola and others from 2 years

void void
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something about those bubbles

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i pretty much only drink water and tea

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no sugar obv

ivory radish
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i drink sometimes soda but not the bad soda

void void
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all soda is bad

ivory radish
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i know

void void
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have you ever seen a healthy person drink diet coke?

ivory radish
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i dont drink diet coke

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like i stopped drinking coke but i still drink some types of fizzy drinks

void void
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whats that?

ivory radish
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a sweetener

void void
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oh those poisons

ivory radish
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yup

void void
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true, cola has a long history of including stuff that really shouldn't be in there

cosmic raft
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~limbo uptime

void void
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Uptime: 30 minutes, 46 seconds

cosmic raft
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glad my time code works

left swift
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gratz

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proud of u

cosmic raft
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lol

left swift
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<3

cosmic raft
#

channel.message("Uptime: " + Thyme.PRETTY_TIME.print(Thyme.duration(Thyme.YMWDHMS_METRIC, this.startTime, Instant.now())));

pearl ibex
#

Thyme

cosmic raft
#

yes

pearl ibex
#

My eyes.

cosmic raft
#

.g thyme

limber knotBOT
#

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cosmic raft
#

:-)

pearl ibex
#

Ew.

cosmic raft
#

Time is already a class in other things

#

so I used another spelling :P

pearl ibex
#

Thyme thinksmart

#

XD

cosmic raft
#

when is your next singing

pearl ibex
#

Idk. :P

#

My guitar is plugged.

cosmic raft
#

what about your uklalekelkel

pearl ibex
#

I can't plug that to my amp... yet.

cosmic raft
#

rip

#

going through withdrawl

pearl ibex
#

But still sounds good.

#

Hm?

cosmic raft
#

been too long since i have heard music

vestal jasper
#

Electric ukalele

pearl ibex
#

I could play some songs if you want.

#

Electroacoustic-ish.

cosmic raft
#

yay

pearl ibex
#

Now it's just acoustic.

#

:P

#

But it's not what you would call a normal uke.

#

It's called "Cuatro".

heady spear
#

next time use tajm

void void
#

wow turning off view bobbing is such a big difference

limber drum
cosmic raft
#

lol

#

@void void lets see your terminal though

void void
#

very good, which distro are you using?

upper flicker
#

distro fight in 3, 2, 1

void void
#

i've always been partial to ubuntu mate's desktop environment. very lightweigth and clean, and doesn't look like fisher price toys that the normal ubuntu now has

cosmic raft
#

@void void what distro do you use?

#

still ubuntu?

#

confused by that a little

void void
#

nah parrotsec, which is based off ubuntu mate

cosmic raft
#

ah

void void
#

are arch, the first distro i used

slender jay
#

why did i think it was a good idea to change dns records 🙂

void void
#

problem is i was 8 years old when i tried out arch

slender jay
#

as if propagation didnt exist

void void
#

so it was hell trying to learn it

#

never heard of nixos

#

just upgraded my 4 nixos based systems from 19.09 to 20.03

#

what's the advantage of nixos?

#

why do you even use parrot

#

do you work as a pentester or...?

#

i'm interested in it

#

and i really like the theming and the way it's set up

#

vanilla ubuntu mate looks like a beige pc

unreal quarry
#

oh, linux flexing 😮

#

my turn

cosmic raft
#

wtf that font

unreal quarry
#

xterm's default ^_^

void void
#

xterm is bad

unreal quarry
#

xterm best term

void void
#

gnome terminal for life!

unreal quarry
#

gross

upper flicker
void void
#

what?

upper flicker
#

have you not been welcomed into the temple?

void void
#

probably not

idle frigate
#

@slim nymph Just wanted to let you know that your new java flags works A LOT better on our server. We were previously running into GC issues where the old gen gc would freeze the server for 1-2 minutes after 1-3 hour of uptime with 160+ players even though there were no memory leaks with plugins. Now it only takes 8-10 hours to reach full memory usage and old gen gc would only take 10-15 seconds 🙂

upper flicker
#

thats not the worst summary ever tbh

#

there are many many many articles online about it

lament patio
slim nymph
#

@idle frigate if your using the 12GB+ modifications, fall back to the base set and itll likely get rid of all the old gens

queen rapids
#

omg temple os

ivory radish
#

still no answer to my error rip

queen rapids
#

the greatest operating system known to man

void void
#

of coures the creator had regular manic episodes. that seems to be how most religous stuff begins

upper flicker
#

the real crime there is cmd

idle frigate
#

Yeah, we were using the 12GB+ modification since we were using 18GB of ram. So going back to default would help with the old gen gc?

void void
#

eew no sudo on cmd

jagged egret
#

here's mine

idle frigate
#

That man behind TempleOS is smart but also really insane

jagged egret
void void
#

brillain pc iso

upper flicker
#

think iso wins

cosmic raft
#

ah we doing windows too? let me get mine from there

void void
#

and of course that optilex named pc, tho mine's named parrot

jagged egret
#

lol my pc is a potato

void void
#

no wonder it's on linux then

jagged egret
#

nah linux is just better

#

used linux before I switched to this pc

void void
#

and it's way better for potatos

jagged egret
#

true

void void
#

my old laptop can barely run windows, but it can handle ubuntu mate like a champ

#

as long as i don't open minecraft

#

beat this lol

#

actually nothing to flex :(

lament patio
#

Sadly, Linux just dislikes my hardware

void void
#

would be better than my pc if that macbook didn't thermal throttle

#

yeah the sad life of laptops after all

jagged egret
void void
#

they throttle a lot

#

also high temperature increases chance of expanding battery

#

i mean my old laptop was passively cooled, just a humble N5450

jagged egret
#

how does linux dislike your hardware

#

i don't understand

void void
#

running my laptop 90+C most of the time ended up with expanded battery

#

windows dislikes my hardware

#

bottom was dented lel

#

got top case replacement tho

#

was that a macbook as well?

#

the same machine i sent few moments ago yes

fallen oracle
#

When it comes to modded MC, is there any useful flags client-side that help with RAM usage?

jagged egret
#

sounds like wrong drivers

upper flicker
#

-XX+UseLessRamDaddyJavaPlease

fallen oracle
#

Lol

#

Didn't know if client side was also GC relates

#

But modpacks do use more RAM

upper flicker
#

not really anything to use less ram

#

you can give it less ram, but youll increase gc pressure

cosmic raft
upper flicker
#

that may or may not be okay

cosmic raft
#

there is my laptop

jagged egret
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) The new Windows Terminal - length 45s - 63,840 likes, 1,904 dislikes (97.1%) - 2,324,269 views - Windows Developer on 2019.05.06

upper flicker
#

pft dumb microsoft still advertising ps6 when ps7 has been out for like two months

#

yes its pretty nice

#

miles ahead of the old conhost windows

cosmic raft
#

that is what that screnshot I just linked is using

#

lol

upper flicker
#

not particularly feature filled yet

jagged egret
#

claro

fallen oracle
#

I use that

upper flicker
#

oh yeah emojis are in their advertising

#

because windows is famously terrible with character encodings

#

it is gpu accelerated however which is interesting

#

thats kinda niche in other terminal emulators

worn ember
#

I haven't even tried wsl yet

merry talon
worn ember
#

No.

upper flicker
merry talon
#

i really like windows terminal

upper flicker
#

wsl2 is very fast so long as you stay in the vm filesystem

void void
#

alacritty is gpu accelerated as well

upper flicker
#

if you cross over to the windows filesystem its slower than hell

#

far slower than wsl1

void void
#

however works quite shit on windows & osx tbh

upper flicker
#

alacritty is what I meant by niche

void void
#

osx doesn't even allow launching multiple instances of it 😩

worn ember
upper flicker
#

iterm is probably the most popular terminal emulator with gpu acceleration support

slim nymph
#

neofetch
neofetch: command not found
The best neofetch

void void
#

yeah

upper flicker
#

and I dont think its even on by defualt

void void
#

yeah

merry talon
#

I can copy 30M files between WSL2 and windows instantly

void void
#

you need to turn off bunch of knobs to get it working

upper flicker
#

cool

merry talon
#

so i dunno

upper flicker
#

slow as fuck

#

it literally uses a network bind to do all the transfers

merry talon
#

..o

upper flicker
#

microsoft is trying to figure out a better way but theyre advice is basically "dont do that"

void void
#

i wonder how many hops does it have

worn ember
#

4

void void
#

0 or thousand between microsoft datacenters as well

upper flicker
#

though I do think duct taping a decent cli environment onto windows is a great thing

void void
#

FCaaS

#

file copying as a service

slim nymph
#

you prob go through an antivirus scan on open, then a firewall scan, then the antivirus sees data coming in from network and scans it again

upper flicker
#

shame the rest of windows still comes with it though 😉

worn ember
#

Antivirus in 2020 PepeYikes

slim nymph
#

windows defender is antivirus

upper flicker
#

the av layer in windows is deep down at the filesystem layer

#

it doesnt need to hook into the network bind thing

#

its got it before it ever gets there

worn ember
#

Well as long as it's not Avast or norton

slim nymph
#

what if code runs shell directly off network code and doesnt touch fs

upper flicker
#

its still a fs

#

its just not like a local one

#

its an abstraction for whatever is actually backing it

void void
#

lol ok wtf

#

wait kaziks pc has 60 days uptime

#

iterm2 disables gpu when you enable font ligatures

#

suc dic

upper flicker
#

theres a bunch of stuff it disables yeah

void void
#

sad is that not many places support ligatures...

#

intellij does, ok

upper flicker
#

nirvallica: windows 10 hibernates now on standard shut down

#

its pretty easy to get crazy uptimes

void void
#

iterm does kinda (when you don't care about fast rendering speed)

#

but emacs doesn't

#

:(

upper flicker
#

pft emacs

void void
#

u n l e s s you run mac port

#

some japanese guy invented that support there

#

vanilla doesn't smh

upper flicker
#

pretty cool some guy added that to the port

cosmic raft
#

i don't even like ligatures

#

so does not matter to me

upper flicker
#

I go back and forth on them

#

right now Im using them, I may stop next week or next month, or just whenever I switch and forget to turn them on

#

its not really something I care too much about

stuck badger
#

how to i view other breaks in nodejs debugger

#

i made a break on one file and i cant view it

#

setBreakpoint('rules.js', 10)

void void
#

js monkaS

stuck badger
#

i deleted a fiile but its ru8nning atm

void void
#

@void void sorry for wait responjse but I'm on Lubuntu

stuck badger
#

holy fuck

#

i got it back

jagged egret
#

Is anyone here familiar with netty

void void
#

kinda

#

what's the question

jagged egret
#

I want to make TinyProtocol support #sendPacket without running the packet through it's own packet listener

#

just like ProtocolLib's #sendServerPacket() filters boolean

stuck badger
#

vs code is a fricken god

void void
#

.g tinyprotocol

limber knotBOT
hollow acorn
void void
#

tricky situation hmm

heavy belfry
jagged egret
#

@heavy belfry where is my pizza

mint cradle
heavy belfry
#

🍕

jagged egret
#

noms pizza

void void
#

now iso is fat

jagged egret
#

ya estuve

potent fossil
#

why do you keep speaking spanish

jagged egret
#

habit

#

I still speak it sometimes so it's weird switching between the two

potent fossil
#

i could understand it being a habit if he had just said something...in spanish, but he said it in english after you already spoke english

#

i think you just love speaking spanish peepoJuice

jagged egret
#

ah si, la verdad es que si

#

:P

upper flicker
#

@potent fossil ¿Qué?

jagged egret
#

I'm trying to not lose it for when I leave again at some point

potent fossil
#

get Tandem

jagged egret
#

Ooh interesting

potent fossil
#

you can talk in spanish to ppl there, in return it's expected that you're going to talk english to someone who wants to learn

#

but ye, is nice

void void
#

is it normal to already regret the move to lubuntu?

potent fossil
#

yes because lubuntu is trash

jagged egret
#

the heck is lubuntu

void void
#

is it normal to regret the mobe to linux

potent fossil
#

ubuntu but with the lxde desktop

upper flicker
#

ubuntu + lxde

potent fossil
#

i believe

jagged egret
#

yes but then you learn

potent fossil
#

no linux itself is great

jagged egret
#

and then linux is the best

void void
#

I've been on linux for about 2 1/2 hours now

potent fossil
#

lubuntu is trash

upper flicker
#

I'd prefer xubuntu if you wanted a lighter weight de distro on ubuntu

#

but whatever

#

use what you like

void void
#

and I kind of regret this move but I'm so fucking sick of windoes 10

potent fossil
#

btw i use gentoo

void void
#

I just wish that windows doesn't have the bullshit it has kekwhyper

jagged egret
#

i use just pure ubuntu

upper flicker
jagged egret
#

:ubuntu:

#

:(

upper flicker
#

should add all the little distro logos as emotes so people can fight in style

potent fossil
#

no, fuk arch. it duz 2 much for u

#

gentoo

#

if u dont compile ur own kernel, ur trash

upper flicker
#

gen2 dumb

#

what is this 1994

#

pls

void void
#

z750

#

how was your first few days on linux?

upper flicker
#

uh different but much enjoyed

#

I started using linux because the android emulator ran like shit on windows

#

and that was before they had x86 images available, long before

#

so I was just happy to have a usable environment

void void
#

I switched to linux because I'm sick of windows 10 fucking restarting my PC every 1 hour

#

and random BSODs

upper flicker
#

Ive been on windows a ton because wfh these last few weeks, havent had any of that

#

just a lot of the normal windows bs

#

working in windows env annoyances etc

#

though I am on insider preview slow ring... for work... because... I am a smart person

void void
#

I'm also a GFX person

#

and that alone really wants to make me go back to windows

#

but I told myself that I will learn a lot if I stay on linux

upper flicker
#

I mean, you gotta go where your tools are

#

you will learn a lot staying on linux but if you cant do anything there either...

void void
#

Is there like a dual boot thing?

upper flicker
#

yes you can dual boot quite easily

void void
#

Where I can boot into windows for GFX related crap and have linux as my main OS

#

Because I think this move will be good for me in my development space

upper flicker
#

install linux to half the disk and install windows to the other half

#

I have separate disks for it but its basically the same concept

rain yew
#

Someone knows what "-XX:+AlwaysPreTouch" is for? It seems to conflict with pterodactyl

potent fossil
#

yea it means pre touch the memory, aka load it all up for use.

#

in ptero, it will cause you to OOM

#

because your mem usage will immediately max out (as intended by the flag...)

rain yew
#

I see, thanks

toxic loom
slim nymph
#

@potent fossil you know you totally just made them remove the flag with all that instead of saying how to resovle it lol >_>

potent fossil
#

i thought that WAS how you resolve it

#

(for ptero)

slim nymph
#

@rain yew youll want to keep that flag, you need to ensure your Xmx is at least 1G lower than the containers memory, and disable OOMKiller for safety

#

nope, just gotta give container overhead

potent fossil
#

right short of reducing how much ram you can end up using

slim nymph
#

taking that flag off is WORSE than lowering Xmx

#

and still leaves you at risk of crash

potent fossil
#

fair enough

slim nymph
#

thats like one of the most important flags

#

linux has this nasty bugfeature called Transparent Huge Pages

#

and that flag should save you from THP

#

because we know that no host knew to go disable THP

rain yew
#

I'll take that in consideration, for now I'm just using pterodactyl for test servers and I refuse to give ssh access to strangers.

#

Thanks btw

void void
onyx steeple
#

only suckers give ssh to strangers

#

or geniuses

#

nobody in the middle

potent fossil
#

hey gsand have you seen the cloud that hides from suckas

#

ok im the sucka bc i cant type

#

forget it

vagrant kernel
vivid ivy
#

think i just found my new favorite plugin

left swift
#

Interesting

merry talon
#

i hate when people try to make mods as plugins

scarlet flint
void void
#

* * INVALID PLUGIN.YML! {insertforgemodhere} HAS BEEN DISABLED! * *

potent fossil
#

what

rain yew
#

Is there any benchmark that might tell you how good is a vps for mc hosting? I had 2 vps with 12000 score on geekbench 4 but both had completely different cpu usages.

merry talon
#

well.. you need to look at the single threaded score

potent fossil
#

if springer made all dem books free, would i be legally allowed to put them up for download on my fileserver

flat zephyr
#

Anyone know if there are any statistics on the percentages of servers running various MC versions?

pulsar wigeon
#

.bstats

merry talon
#

am a bot

pulsar wigeon
#

tybot

#

go back to mining bitcoin for me

stuck badger
merry talon
#

the only thing i mine is these users' personal data

#

well first of all how does the bot respond but then keep timing latency

stuck badger
#

i made the edit wait 2 seconds

flat zephyr
#

I assume there's a fairly precies timestamp on the user message it could compare it's response to

stuck badger
#

so the emoji can look sexy

merry talon
#

lol

stuck badger
#

yea brennan

#

p simple

#

i just stup my color scheme today

merry talon
#

looks good aside from the js logo

stuck badger
#

oh really

#

i though that looked nice

#

ill remove an see what it looks like

merry talon
#

well it just doesn't seem relevant

#

unless your bot is something to do with JS itself

stuck badger
#

i have a ;js

#

i can search docs

#

then there is this empty space

#

damn footer

#

i think that look nice

potent fossil
#

we get it, you can make embeds

stuck badger
#

im pretty sure anyone can make embeds

merry talon
#

you can remove the header to make it smaller

stuck badger
#

size doesnt matter

potent fossil
#

oh really 👀

stuck badger
#

what my cousin said

#

she was referring to my smarts

potent fossil
#

stop talking, you're digging yourself an even deeper hole

rain yew
#

well.. you need to look at the single threaded score

I know but, overall cpu usage is way higher. Not just one core.

slim nymph
#

dunno, drop it

wraith siren
olive garden
#

good job

cedar spade
#

not using a Discord bot to spam you with every stack trace you encounter

fickle pecan
hollow tangle
void void
#

bloodmasked is one of them

#

xd

heady spear
#

someone burped really loudly in the middle of our zoom lecture 🙂

#

I love these morons that don't turn their mics off 😄

woven otter
#

Does anyone know if there's a database with all possibly hacked Minecraft accounts that these Minecraft alt generators use in order to ban them?
just ask them if they are using alts. Surely you can trust people /s

safe plover
magic pier
void void
fluid sorrel
turbid idol
void void
fathom sail
sonic frost
charred lake
shadow portal
green atlas
void void
proven lily
#

mission accomplished boys

#

cya next year

granite salmon
#

so many joining

latent valve
#

BOT RAIDD RUNN

potent fossil
void void
gaunt ridge
lime lagoon
void void
limber knotBOT
#

And then ppl yell at us for giving those ppl asylum

#

How can you watch shit like this and not wanna help?

plain portal
void void
sharp zenith
modest marlin
rare vault
prime pawn
#

So I want to start making my first modular project. Any idea where I should start, or what resources I should use? Such as spring.io

limber knotBOT
#

one of our online courses is streamed on.. twitch

prime pawn
#

😂

#

Probably not the best platform to be streaming a course on.

limber knotBOT
#

but yeah apparently our uni doesnt have any platform to stream for 300 people without it crashing to pieces, so it's twitch

prime pawn
#

Hm, even Youtube would be better lmao

#

You could probably even create a private Facebook group and stream in there 🤔

limber knotBOT
#

oh god facebook

prime pawn
slim nymph
#

mixers better anyways

prime pawn
#

Hell, you can use Discord even now 😂

limber knotBOT
#

then we have smaller courses where we'd like to see each other, which also crashes with like 25 people with thei cam on

upper flicker
#

careful, mixer v twitch is still oof controversy

#

because you know, people like to fight on the internet

golden gust
#

inb4 skypes revival

upper flicker
#

someone ban cat

prime pawn
#

Make a private Discord server, make users authenticate themselves (hook into your website where you offer the courses or whatever, dunno the ramifications) then give perm to authenticated users to view your stream.

slim nymph
#

well easy battle, who has webrtc and who doesn't 😉

limber knotBOT
#

pretty sure discord dies pretty quickly too

#

and shit quality unless you pay

#

and... >discord

prime pawn
#

Ooft, alright

upper flicker
#

I mean for like a small private stream you could probably do just about whatever and be alright

#

discord has been having some hiccups lately though, thats fair

slim nymph
#

i just know from livestreaming for hours, which id expect a 'course' to be, the latency build up on rtmp sucks so badly

limber knotBOT
#

with these things where you just have a single person streaming, it's currenty 300 viewers

prime pawn
#

What if you revised your structure, did videos instead then separately answered questions? Have a little "faq" per-video where questions get added to it afterwards/allow people to ask questions after.

limber knotBOT
#

that'd work I guess. but then there's still the problem of "in person" seminars

snow hornet
prime pawn
#

Generally services and organizations that provide "in person seminars" online have their own platform they use for this 🤔

#

Okay, what if you disabled Twitch chat, set up some sort of add-on

#

That lets people ask questions

jaunty dove
golden gust
#

This lockdown thing is only gonna last for so long, not really sure people are gonna bother tryna develop stuff like that

jaunty dove
#

hey everyone,
have any of you had a bug where a steve player pops in to frame for a millisecond and then dissappears

slim nymph
#

and cat just jinxed entire world

jaunty dove
#

even if no one is on the server

golden gust
#

I mean

prime pawn
#

What I mean, is I think an extension to allow viewers to ask questions for Twitch would already exist

golden gust
#

This lockdown came about the same time I actually found a group of people I love hanging around with

slim nymph
#

@jaunty dove on login?

golden gust
#

It's like sods law

jaunty dove
#

no only on login

prime pawn
#

Cat, have you made a modular project before?

jaunty dove
#

just at random points

slim nymph
#

oh then i dont know, login can be explained though

jaunty dove
#

here's an example when people are connected

slim nymph
#

there is a split time where you now login to server but before the next packets are sent

jaunty dove
slim nymph
#

maybe ski nservers failed

#

using bungee?

jaunty dove
#

but those people arent actually there - and they disappear immediately

#

nope, no bungee - just single server with latest paper

slim nymph
#

you walked up to them?

limber knotBOT
#

oh my god colored chat components

#

finally

jaunty dove
#

they are there for like 5ms

#

cant walk up to them

pulsar wigeon
#

is it an offline mode server

jaunty dove
#

this is a frame from a recording

slim nymph
#

you got like 2 of them there

#

was it moving

prime pawn
#

I wonder if those entities are only there client-side or server-side

jaunty dove
#

nope, not moving - just a freeze frame

pulsar wigeon
#

inb4sr

jaunty dove
#

i've had multiple people mention it

#

offline mode? - explain?

prime pawn
#

Server may have removed the entities but the player has yet to receive the packet updating it, forgot what packet it was though

jaunty dove
#

people connect to it with a dedicated IP so i'd say no?

slim nymph
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seems like theres 2 emmets there. are they vanished?

jaunty dove
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nope

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emmet hasnt even been there before - has no perms to either

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its got me as one of them 🙂

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half the time it frightens me! xD

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im casually mining and some steve jumpscares me xD

prime pawn
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Isn't there like a bug report you can fill out?

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It would ask how to replicate it, server settings and plugins?

jaunty dove
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literally no idea how to replicate it! xD

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it just happens, i can list all the plugins and settings though - where abouts?

wide chasm
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The new chat color stuff is pretty neat, ngl

prime pawn
jaunty dove
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ta

ivory radish
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maybe its a plugin

prime pawn
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It'll be hard to resolve, if you can't replicate it.

jaunty dove
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thought it might be a plugin yeah - not sure how to work out which one though

prime pawn
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Usually, you'd try to replicate it and take out one plugin at a time to try work out which one(s) is causing it.

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But since you can't replicate it... yeah.

ivory radish
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take a backup, take out one plugin each time

jaunty dove
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yeah, id have to just wait until it happens - with 1 plugin less each time xD

ivory radish
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yeah

jaunty dove
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maybe ill start the server from a backup and host it locally

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so i dont actually affect the server 😛

prime pawn
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Those same people who tried joining, if they helped you could you replicate it?

jaunty dove
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its not specific to them, but ill port forward and ask some mates to join with me xD

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problem is, i need to be watching it to see if it happens xD

ivory radish
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do other players see it?

prime pawn
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Do you use a plugin to allow compatibility to older versions?

jaunty dove
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other players see it yeah - with or without any permissions

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and no, nothing to allow compatibility i dont think

latent valve
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do u have skinrestore?

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or what ever it called

jaunty dove
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nope

do u have skinrestore?
@latent valve

prime pawn
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Can you list your plugins for us?

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lol ty

jaunty dove
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xD

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some added more recently, and can confirm its not them

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DeadChest, DeathCoords, DNotify, Elevator, Harbor, IslandWorld, RickROP, SlimeChunk, SilkSpawners

pearl ibex
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MassiveCore... hmm...

jaunty dove
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those are exceptions

worn ember
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i'd honestly disable all and see if it still happens

jaunty dove
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MassiveCore... hmm...
@pearl ibex
not sure what that one is - think it was a dependency

prime pawn
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I feel like the easiest way to resolve this, would be to add a packet listener, listen for the packet that updates entity metadata

jaunty dove
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i'd honestly disable all and see if it still happens
@worn ember
trueeee

prime pawn
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And list which plugins used that packet

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Over what time

upper flicker
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massivecore is a dependency yeah

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usually for factions

prime pawn
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And try to match it, for when the incident happens again

upper flicker
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the massive factions version

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there are other forks that dont use it

jaunty dove
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i dont have factions xD

worn ember
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then why do you have it

pearl ibex
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@jaunty dove That's not your problem, I think.

upper flicker
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have any of the Massive* whatever plugins?

worn ember
upper flicker
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its like their core thing iirc

worn ember
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i have a windows server test tomorrow

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plz kill me

upper flicker
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do it all on server core

peak dirge
jaunty dove
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how can i get a packer listener to the server?

worn ember
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its a theoretical test PepeHands

pearl ibex
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What does DeadChest do?

worn ember
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place a chest when u die

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duh

jaunty dove
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lmao

upper flicker
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we used to use cenotaph for that

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back in my day

prime pawn
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Did you get any alerts from your anti-cheat when the incident occured?

jaunty dove
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hackerman stealing all my plugins

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Did you get any alerts from your anti-cheat when the incident occured?
@prime pawn nay

upper flicker
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plugins probably dead or something now that was like 5 years ago

prime pawn
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I'd make one for you, but I'm a little busy trying to work out how to make a modular minigame framework :/

worn ember
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my sister is posting ethot pictures and its triggering me

prime pawn
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I've never made a modular project, ever xD

jaunty dove
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sheesh xD

limber knotBOT
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apparently cindy has a fork, Z

jaunty dove
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my sister is posting ethot pictures and its triggering me
@worn ember and who is your sister? xD