why coreprotect doesn't load in paper
#general
prime idol
olive garden
that does seem fine
void void
Hey can anyone help me with what I been asking in here the past couple of times?
prime idol
this is what it says
[Server thread/ERROR]: Could not load 'plugins\CoreProtect-2.18.2.jar' in folder 'plugins'
@soft burrow what
void void
I am asking about "Anyone here can help me figure out if there a viable replacement for this abandon ware https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/tos.100/ ? I feels like if I increase the feed backs like that they will be able to understand better to agree to the rules."
I am having troubles finding a similar replacement.
@prime idol ^
jagged egret
"you can't set a password you've used before" MOJANG LEMME RESET MAH PASSWORD
rare herald
@prime idol Please provide your startup log
rain sun
Does anyone know how to quickly make a minecraft map render? worldborder 3% 2 hours render..
jagged egret
make it smaller?
rain sun
no:)
jagged egret
then no
rain sun
15000x15000
void venture
Count how many blocks that is
And you'll realize why it takes so much time
The only thing you could do is upgrade your hardware
rain sun
The most interesting thing is that on a system with a hard disk and on a system with an ssd the speed is the same
fallen jungle
Then you're not disk bound
jagged egret
memory leeks
ashen cliff
Yeah. Start generating a world, you see ram just vanish.
fallen jungle
Is that... surprising..?
You're creating a new world..?
Like massive quantities?
jagged egret
which shouldn't be in ram..?
ashen cliff
Yes, but it gets unloaded.
hybrid basin
fallen jungle
wdym world shouldn't be in ram
of course making a world takes a lot of ram
but after unloading, then yes it should eventually get freed
keyword eventually though, does it never get freed?
ashen cliff
Some things just don't. That's why I said leaks.
pulsar wigeon
what doesnt
fallen jungle
Have you been able to find out what exactly doesn't get freed
ashen cliff
No idea, just start mass generating a world and check.
pulsar wigeon
you can say leaks all you want but without a heap dump showing something specifically leaking..
jagged egret
lee3ks
pulsar wigeon
ram usage is not indicative of a leak
ashen cliff
I'll look into it one day.
bleak spoke
tacit oxide
jagged egret
VNC only will show a gray screen :(
I don't want to install gnome because I already have the native desktop environment
hoary brook
surreal crag
normal tendon
hardy elk
void void
woven otter
.remind
limber knotBOT
[-d] [-w <who>] <when> <message...>
woven otter
.remind -w @woven otter 19h Add reminders to duck bot so I don't have to use paper for reminders
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 19 hours from now.
olive garden
๐
cosmic raft
that's not how @woven otter
woven otter
not how what
limber knotBOT
duck bot
woven otter
shh
limber knotBOT
can it quack?
woven otter
no ๐ฆ
latent valve
woven otter
it exists because I need it
void void
I am confused why do people still use multicrap?
limber knotBOT
no one needs ducks that canโt quack
ashen cliff
Anyone got a IP abuse report bot handy?
Would really need one for one of our IPs right now.
void void
You can probably ring someone up to make one for you.
Benefit of custom that you can get into any API you might need it for as well.
woven otter
hey can kazheek explain to me what he meant
I really don't want to ping you
I only ping Z from the blues
elder tree
What is the difference between paper and waterfall?
upper flicker
paper is the server software that runs plugins and the game itself
waterfall is a proxy that lets you tie lots of paper servers together
@woven otter
woven otter
wow that's rude
jagged egret
@woven otter
elder tree
Wait tie them together as in work together or tie together as in they can move players between instances?
jagged egret
As in you can move players between instances
upper flicker
move players between instances
woven otter
you are raping it
limber knotBOT
pheonix if you want I can make an HQ version of that logo
upper flicker
players connect to waterfall -> waterfall manages what actual server they end up on
limber knotBOT
but allmost all of my logos are hand-painted by me ;_;
upper flicker
so players can flip between say pvp and creative or minigames or whatever without reconnecting
theres a lot of other stuff you can do thats just an example
limber knotBOT
ok rip, don't want to interrupt your collection then
thanks for the offer though :)
elder tree
@Z790 thanks for the explanation. I might take a look at it.
limber knotBOT
yeah I just bought a graphic tablet and I wanted to try it for something useful
I don't know if I'm good at drawing
elder tree
So that I can host a creative/survival combo
limber knotBOT
I actually made some good drawings in the past that took me several hours, if you want too see them -.-
woven otter
Z can you ping kazheek because I really need closure and if you ping him then the only blame is on you.
jagged egret
he only works for tacos
upper flicker
@woven otter
woven otter
void void
wiz is getting shit talked in spigot, iz fun times
i've got a new policy, block everyone who brings up the 1.8 pvp argument
dont do it stef
wide chasm
:(
void void
look at this subhuman bullshit https://reeee.ee/WHj4GO.png
wide chasm
Lol
upper flicker
lol man the 1.8 butthurt is real
wide chasm
"developers are too lazy"
upper flicker
one day theyll realize no one would care if they wouldnt act like spoiled children and harass everyone to support them
void venture
lmao
pulsar wigeon
simple y r u bringing spigot drama here
void void
they are seriously being so asinine it's ridiculous, i have them all blocked now
hi marco
twin lagoon
it's idriz
void venture
what server is that one?
twin lagoon
that guy got banned here afaik
void void
he did
the convo started with him shit talking wiz about how he was banned for nothing
wide chasm
I think I'm glad I haven't joined the Spigot guild
void void
so i quoted him and he started getting 1.8 defensive
i was actually protecting wiz
on the front lines
upper flicker
lol
kindred storm
limber knotBOT
yummy
exotic kayak
inland cedar
pulsar wigeon
tends to happen when someone clicks a link in their browser and it joins with their browser before opening with the desktop client
raven notch
blazing haven
slate sequoia
ashen cliff
That's just how YT works.
They feed you weird stuff, just to you start binge watching it.
mighty epoch
Hello
Any idea to have dynmap IP on subdomain without needing dedicated server?
near bane
raven notch
limber pendant
void void
i've pretty much got ablocking attidude with youtube
show's me someone/something i've never heard of, even if i would probably like it, block
raven notch
Hello everyone, I am new to the paper community. I am glad to be a part of this and hope I can help out where I can. ๐ I would just like to thank all the developers that put so much hard work into making a more optimized version of spigot. It definitely helps.
vapid pier
void void
what
pulsar wigeon
viper missed the party already
void void
smh my head
raven notch
Hi Viper, Thanks! I am a developer for my job. I do know a little but I wont comment until I learn a little more on how paper works.
ember warren
ashen cliff
Wiz probably has a direct feed of every ping that happens here.
knotty nebula
Just to kick people
void void
ah yes continue pouring oil into fire ๐
worn ember
Wow that's mean
worn ember
Nono. I hope you get your head bashed in by bowling ball
void void
no u
worn ember
No u no u
void void
no w
worn ember
No x
void void
worn ember
Does x even come after w?
void void
no, it's before
worn ember
Lmfao I tried
worn ember
void void
take the L
worn ember
When I started working as order picker I had a hard time cuz all the does were labled alphabetical
*rows
queen rapids
adios
unreal quarry
I had trouble pronouncing shit as a child. "Ella minnow pea" was part of my alphabet
static badge
what's ella minnow pea
pulsar wigeon
lmnop
static badge
wow a section of the alphabet
pulsar wigeon
kids singing the alphabet tend to say those letters very fast
so they kinda become an amalgam
to be fair, leaf is still a child
void void
lul
static badge
jaunty ingot
jagged egret
whenever I click 't' to open chat it effectively double-presses it. Same with / - anyone know a fix?
upper flicker
I was seeing that a while ago too
pulsar wigeon
sounds like a client issue
upper flicker
no idea if its still there but yeah its all client side, not aware of a solution
jagged egret
oh woo there are whole bunch on the bug tracker - all Ubuntu, most of them gnome lol
same environment
pulsar wigeon
anywhere from hardware -> os -> lwjgl -> mc client lol
iron zephyr
cosmic raft
wheee
look at me being productive today https://bugs.mojang.com/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=kashike
void void
good question what my login is
cosmic raft
lol
ashen cliff
How many 7 year old duplicates?
pale lodge
cosmic raft
@void void tl;dr: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-67824?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel activity section
pearl vine
void void
wew
merry mural
jagged egret
what's the link to download paper? aquifermc.org or something right?
upper flicker
you have been gone a long time havent you iso
jagged egret
yes
upper flicker
fallen oracle
o.o
upper flicker
wb
fallen oracle
That url is really that new?
fallen oracle
I completely forgot about the old url ๐๐
upper flicker
aquifer is probably a bit older than a year tbh
fallen oracle
Ya
upper flicker
it goes back to at least sept. 2018 based on the site repo
void void
what was the purpose of aquifermc domain anyway?
upper flicker
shared forums space for paper and waterfall
because neither project really wanted to run forums
fallen oracle
๐๐
upper flicker
yeah Im still not thrilled I lost that one
jagged egret
.flags
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
Non
fallen oracle
Paper does a lot of traffic
worn ember
@void void mikropp
jagged egret
also gracias @upper flicker it's been awhile here's a taco ๐ฎ
upper flicker
void void
@worn ember but u have nanopp
void void
which part
void void
i mean budget didn't allow for a real owl
so they used random pigeon and CGI to mask it up
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
worn ember
Smh
void void
ah yes, shit
i wonder how reliable icloud is from the browser
i have to send my piece of mac scrap metal to warranty repair; butterfly keyboard started showing how shit it is and some keys work poorly now
shell vine
void void
umm why can't I install openjdk 13 on my Debain 10 VPS? I tried "apt install openjdk-13-jdk" and it said that it unable to be located.
void void
I am not sure since i been trying to find guides online and none of them mentioned exactly how to do this.
for like the last 15 minutes...
upper flicker
there's one called openjdk-13 but I have no idea if its in 10 or just unstable
void void
Looks like that's must be in the unstable then as it doesn't seems to be there either.
unreal quarry
fun fact: you dont have to "install" java. all you have to do is 1) download it. 2) uncompress it to a common location (debian uses /var/lib/jvm/ as a common location for java). and then 3) (optional step, if you want it to be default) update your java symlinks in /usr/bin/ to point to the new java
pulsar wigeon
fun fact: that is true of the vast majority of software that doesn't require registry keys or something weird
installers are just there for the convenience of doing those steps for you (and shit like creating shortcuts, registering file associations, etc)
unreal quarry
you'd be surprised how many people dont know that ๐
just trying to be helpful
i'll sit back down and shut up, though
mighty storm
molten sonnet
tepid imp
floral grotto
pearl ibex
void void
Anyone willing to help me debug my VPS setup? For some reason my control panel is taking forever to load even though the deamon is running AND the firewall have port 8080 open. Yes DNS prorogation is also completed as well.
void void
It's not loading error time out on my browser.
But it loads for a REALLY long time before doing that.
merry talon
check the logs of your panel/web server
dreamy elk
jagged egret
does anyone know of a good guide or where I can get started with making a custom world generator?
knotty nebula
how do you disable permissions for players to see plugins?
@void void get a plugin for that, there is no .yml settings
unreal quarry
I'd strongly advise against it though. Hiding plugins from players doesn't do anything except blind them from the features they are able to use
void void
there is a way
set perms for bukkit.command.plugin to false
also if you disable plugins
it prevents copycats of your server from arising
@spare venture btw your server is awesome
merry talon
copycats aren't a thing
unreal quarry
I knew this was about copycats lol
merry talon
if your server isn't unique enough that people can replicate it by installing the same plugins
unreal quarry
If your server can be copied by just looking at a list of plugin names, you're doing something very wrong
merry talon
your server fucking sucks
they also don't need to not know
so stop wasting your time
pulsar wigeon
oh man is it opinion o'clock here in paper's premiere shitposting channel
merry talon
no
void void
i don't want core plugins to be exposed
pulsar wigeon
i need to go to bed. can all yall kids make sure to play nice
void void
yikes
Eh it could be my experience too
Cause I know some friends whose servers were copied
because they had really nice ideas
unreal quarry
Imo, the plugins list should be a badge of honor. Showcase what your server is about and can offer.
void void
eh
you have a positive view on humans
if you have an idea
they will steal it
just like how thomas edison stole from tesla
how they gonna steal a publicly available plugin
xd
putting a bunch of plugins to a server isnt an original ideas
not necessarily steal a public plugin
it's about using the plugin
for ur server
^
especially anti-cheat
why do they need to see my anti-cheat
pulsar wigeon
you can steal an idea without knowing the plugin list
pulsar wigeon
you're making a lot of disparate arguments atm
void void
that will stop 99.99% of hack guaranteed
true
you already got told how to do it, why continue to sit here and argue
i swear this is joke central
ik
pulsar wigeon
cuz it's opinion o clock simple
void void
well tbh arguments are fun
they stimulate ur brain
i see nothing wrong with arguing
not the ones that happen in paper
pulsar wigeon
why do you care. you spend all your time shitposting in spigot anyway
pulsar wigeon
runs
merry talon
barty is the reason corporations have huge security holes everywhere
void void
wdym
merry talon
things should be known up to a point
merry talon
obscurity is a bad attitude to have
void void
ok would you give personal information to a random stranger?
it's like that
*relative to that
i understand giving information on plugins to moderators
but for players idk
unreal quarry
No it's not lol.. it's more like letting a stranger see what kind of jeans and t-shirt you're wearing... Nothing personal about a plugins list
void void
eh thats subjective
in my viewpoint it's like telling your birthday and name and etc
it's all relative
based on your level of privacy
unreal quarry
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
unreal quarry
You do you
rare herald
Anyone use ViaBackwards or ProtocolSupport? (On a 1.15.2 server for backwards compatibility). Curious if theyโre worth installing ๐ฌ
void void
I can't think of any major server that allows /pl though
pulsar wigeon
o boi time for more opinions
unreal quarry
Is intelli baiting? :O
void void
anyway thx for being as helpful paper
ill come back for any more questions
also is tuinity worth installing?
rare herald
Well, I generally yell at people to update, but I have a few people who mainly play on older servers
unreal quarry
We're not allowed to talk about forks here
rare herald
So genuinely curious lawl
merry talon
I can't think of any major server that allows /pl though
that's not relevant if you aren't running all of your own plugins
you aren't a major server
void void
NOOOOO THE PLAYERS KNOW I HAVE SILKSPAWNERS INSTALLED TO SERWER
so basically install bunch of plugins then not tell any of the players
unreal quarry
They're just sheeple, sweepy ^_^ reminds me of this one kid that joined my server years ago and was like "this server sucks because your plugins are showing" then left lol
void void
^
like a tutorial
im not saying im a major server
im just saying major servers disable /plugins for a reason
it would really be nice for people not to see what anti-cheat i am running too
unreal quarry
thinking players read stuff on first join
unreal quarry
I'm just a guy with a beard
pulsar wigeon
actually just a beard with a guy
unreal quarry
No lag ^_^
void void
how tf did u optimize it
unreal quarry
No players, too
unreal quarry
Lmao
void void
how come u have no players
arent u good at plugin deving?
i run Purpur for the mob riding and no other reason
unreal quarry
Cause it's all just fun and games for me ^_^ not a business
void void
well if you are good at something
never do it for free
i like to fly my bees around the world
๐
mortal zinc
a server owner who also develops plugins on the server, isn't that a cool combo?
void void
owning a server is really hard and so is developing plugins imo
i have a bee named Mr Buzzbuzz who is the equivalent of my WOW Mount
mortal zinc
doesn't read the context here, just pointing out a random thing
pulsar wigeon
simple you just gave me ptsd
void void
good
i would argue that starting a minecraft server was easier back then compared to now
pulsar wigeon
fucking 6 alliance horses
unreal quarry
@void void set the generic.flySpeed of your bee to like 5 ;)
mortal zinc
post-EULA enforcement
pulsar wigeon
i fucking quit before the bee grind
void void
true
mortal zinc
i wonder how that all worked out though
unreal quarry
No lie there
unreal quarry
I'm anxiously waiting for hytale, tbh.. cause I have some ideas... And I want to be the first to implement them ^_^
void void
starting a new server
its fucking hard
make hytale servers to become the new hypixel
^_^
@unreal quarry
wait barty
how tf did you go from 0 players
to around 50ish consistently
i hit around 8-10 players in peak times
unreal quarry
I had 38 players once
void void
what type of server did you have?
unreal quarry
Sometimes summer doesn't kick off right and skips a year
void void
if you say mini-game server I will be sad
unreal quarry
Survival
void void
YES
unreal quarry
It's the only way to play ^_^
void void
the thing is, you have to really make yourself unique
mortal zinc
i was a dev of a server for around 6 1/2 years, and owner of it for over 3. We developed our own features in one massive plugin (450+ files), 4 total developers over all that time
mortal zinc
one of the devs was working on a minigame system
unreal quarry
I was unique, but I'm a pretty transparent guy. Now there's quite a few people using some of my most unique stuff
mortal zinc
I got rid of it soon after taking owner, that was a dumb decision
now that i realize how popular minigame communities are
but we also developed on our own fork of CraftBukkit
void void
I like SMP, Towny, Factions.
Those type of servers
I guess that was my slice of cake.
unreal quarry
void void
skyblock or bust
no not hypixel tier skyblock, minions concept sucks ass imho
skyblock and u tntcannon other ppls island from urs
gotta love shitty skyblock solutions
void void
smoky harbor
void void
i miss older minecraft servers
trail escarp
gloomy chasm
untold ingot
peak dirge
Going to be experimenting with tweaking my OpenJ9 flags in response to new flags being posted recently. It may be time for me to re-evaluate my current flags.
I should be able to get some GC logging starting Friday
torn cypress
fleet pulsar
ebon plinth
Who else has piles and piles of back ups that you're too afraid to delete and you're hoarding them even though they are ancient and useless? ๐ ๐
tame pendant
I don't see a reason to keep one that's 2 weeks old if I have one that's 1 week old and I haven't experienced any new problems
dusk drift
๐
void void
idk i just have shitton of zfs snapshots lying around
they don't take considerable amount of disk space either so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
xz -T 0
though 7zip and xz should provide similar, if not identical compression ratio; both use same algo
unborn oar
limber knotBOT
Been using it locally for a month or something, krusic: it's definitely nice and worth using. My main problem so far has just been no support for Java 14 :p Also been running it on a few servers for a couple weeks, it's as stable as ever even there.
vestal jasper
MiniDigger ty for mentioning baby driver a couple weeks ago. Just saw it, fun movie.
deep slate
vestal jasper
Nabbed the blueray for $10 yesterday 
limber knotBOT
It's more than a fun movie, if you look closely it's a masterpiece
It's a Edgar Wright move after all
vestal jasper
I like the attention to detail
vestal jasper
Pulling off his left earbud and the music only plays from the right. The grafitti.
Prob other things I'm to mentally exhausted to notice.
limber knotBOT
If you like that, take a look at the worlds end
vestal jasper
I should rewatch it this weekend when I don't feel like passing out
limber knotBOT
Oh there are way more ^^
The more you watch it the better it gets
Just the opening scene is worth it
vestal jasper
I don't watch movies often. I'm extremely picky with the movies I watch.
wide chasm
I just watch what Netflix recommends.
Which is why I've seen some... interesting stuff.
olive garden
such us?
the tank movie "Fury" where raping a German girl is considered a good act, or?
limber knotBOT
mikroskeem, assuming Minecrell is still checking the plugin-yml repo, I've PR'd fixes for your issues xoxo
oh he's even in IRC, huh
pong
void void
you ain't gonna get away from minecraft
limber knotBOT
it's like 15 line changes smh
14 too many!
for 3 issues though!
then it's still 12 too many
shush
cunning badge
Maybe interesting for those People who updated to Intellij IDEA 2020.1 RC and use Lombok: https://github.com/mplushnikov/lombok-intellij-plugin/issues/775
There you can download the new version thats compatible with the new IntelliJ version
cunning badge
void void
shell vine
does that work 
golden gust
I have doubts it would work for vanilla gen
olive garden
.ball does Viper use black magic to host his server?
.8ball does Viper use black magic to host his server?
limber knotBOT
shakes the magic 8 ball... Don't count on it
olive garden
seems legit
golden gust
.895
golden gust
I just use .exec for running mysql commands
limber knotBOT
It's fixed but I didn't care to fix my review since the author didn't care to respond to our pm where we disclosed the issue to him ๐คท
If I don't get a thanks he gets to keep his review
Yeeeep
ashen cliff
He can just cry to the mod team to remove it.
worn ember
@olive garden Fury was a great movie tho
ashen cliff
Even valid shit got removed when people cried enough.
limber knotBOT
I don't care ๐คท
', (SELECT sleep(1000))); -- %
That's the query I crafted btw
Just enter that into chat
ashen cliff
Should have added that to the review.
limber knotBOT
oy
hot sluice
you guys manually typing from the bot api? xd
twin lagoon
irc bridge
hot sluice
gonna pretend i know what that is to sound cool
twin lagoon
.g irc
limber knotBOT
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blazing skiff
limber knotBOT
that preview image
balmy sky
hot sluice
when apples logo looked like that ๐
limber knotBOT
LOL one of our uni courses will be streamed on twitch ๐
empty oar
limber knotBOT
@thevipershow https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/supadupabroadcast-with-json-tellraw-messages.22247/
Altho I guess I should update that
To use my new char format
Chat*
limber knotBOT
Why wouldn't a broadcast plugin not work on 1.15?
I just want to add a new format to it
smoky coral
clear matrix
heady spear
guys my plugin has 9 downloads ๐ฎ this is exciting
upper flicker
grats
verbal galleon
jagged egret
does anyone know of a good guide or where I can get started with making a custom world generator?
no
I've done a little before and I remember I didn't need NMS
but never enough to get like, actual terrain going
iirc
fallow peak
guys my plugin has 9 downloads ๐ฎ this is exciting
it's so hard to find a simple chat plugin
looking forward to implementing range chat
green turret
You'd have to make 30 extensions for each one
golden gust
the API works
it just kinda sucks and doesn't represent vanillas system well
and has a lot of quirks because bukkit
jagged egret
ah
limber knotBOT
soul campfire in the new snapshot <3
upper flicker
tbh a lot of the new stuff feels really weird for mc
but its a cool weird so itll be fun
probably anyway
limber knotBOT
@still smelt i'll download your plugin :D
jagged egret
no but now it's not unsupported
now that the nether actually has stuff besides just frikin netherrack they should make it use the whole world height
ok so when a player teleports, there's no "loading world" screen - would it be possible to have a player switch worlds without a loading world screen?
limber knotBOT
the one you can't get downloads on, lol
sage condor
limber knotBOT
ok i sent you in private
jagged egret
i want to see it pls
void void
void venture
You have to make it clear
upper flicker
mfw you can look at usb devices from your mc server 
void venture
If I rapidly scroll down through that page, I don't really see something that says "report issues here"
upper flicker
theres a button on the sidebar for it
not seeing a lot of issue reports in the reviews though which is interesting for spigot
upper flicker
do not lower yourself to supporting the lowest common denominator of moron
this isnt a paid plugin
void venture
You've got a point
upper flicker
there's one stacktrace in the discussion
what issues do you think exist that arent getting reported?
limber knotBOT
any statistics on that button in the sidebar? cuz I've never noticed it myself until I uploaded a plugin and filled those fields lol
upper flicker
tbh my guess is most people miss it
void venture
@still smelt you don't have to be skilled to create a premium plugin
upper flicker
but again, not a paid plugin, if they cant find it thats on them :^)
void venture
Otherwise, there would be actually good plugins in that section
wide chasm
We can't have that happen! /s
jagged egret
what are the extremes of possible coordinates for chunks?
limber knotBOT
15?
upper flicker
chunk coords or block coords in a chunk?
chunk coords, the extremes of coords are infinite, effectively just to the farlands though
so just math that up and youve got your range
jagged egret
isn't the max of a worldborder 30,000,000 or something like that?
upper flicker
farlands the generator being buggy not so much anymore
farlands the game shitting itself still there
there is a default worldborder there
it might be 30,000,000 that sounds right from my bad memory
but there is no max that I recall, you could just change or remove it
upper flicker
30 million is probably a safe assumption though too
not sure why you need the range but eyyyyy
jagged egret
"by default, its center lies at coordinates X/Z: 0, with a width and length of almost 30 million (29,999,984) blocks from both ends."
I'm trying to figure out the shortest number of bits I can use to store the x, z coordinates of a chunk
wide chasm
Yeah 21 bits should be enough per coordinate. So 42 bits, for both, so should be able to store it in a long.
olive garden
the size of the world is 30 000 000 - (-30 000 000)
it extends 30 mil in both directions according to him
wide chasm
Oh yeah, one extra for the sign bit.
olive garden
:)
wide chasm
So, 22 bits per, 44 total.
jagged egret
no need for a sign bit, gamepedia says with and length of 30,000,000, no?
pulsar wigeon
in each direction
wide chasm
It is from -30 000 000 to 30 000 000 for both x and z
olive garden
nevermind, I misunderstood your quote
jagged egret
a ver
olive garden
so yeah, probably 30 mil, and not 60
pulsar wigeon
because most people have no clue what an apothem is
merry talon
sounds like some skyrim shit
void venture
lol
wide chasm
It's the line from the center of a polygon to the midpoint of one of its sides.
Definitely didn't check Wikipedia just a second ago ๐
olive garden
are you sure stef?
wide chasm
I'm as sure as Wikipedia is
left swift
jagged egret
highest possible block is 29999983 y 29999983
olive garden
I'm pretty sure it's a line from the center of a polygon to one of its side in a way that it forms a right angle with said side
left swift
Calculating the speed of which your mind can process the words being typed into the discord chat
jagged egret
and lowest is -29999984 y -29999984
wide chasm
If you have a polygon and draw a line from the center to the midpoint of a side, is it even possible to not get a right triangle? Can't think of a situation in which that would occur.
Wikipedia says "regular polygon", so probably add that restriction ๐
pulsar wigeon
trigary, center of the midpoint is the only place that would form a right angle
olive garden
what is the center of a polygon? is it the average of the coordinates of its corners?
jagged egret
creo que si
wide chasm
Sounds correct to me
pulsar wigeon
can actually just be defined as the center of the circle which circumscribes its points
that's the cool thing about regular polygons. they are pretty much just circles with less than infinite sides
olive garden
can actually just be defined as the center of the circle which circumscribes its points
Really? Triangles are hard lol, I can never memorize all this stuff
pulsar wigeon
left swift
What was the name of a triangle where 2 sides where the same? Iso something?
jagged egret
isoceles
left swift
Ty
jagged egret
ye
pulsar wigeon
which is not a regular polygon btw
left swift
I just saw the pic and started thinking about it for some reason
olive garden
left swift
Time for the weekly math portion of general chat
olive garden
circle in the middle: center of polygon
circles in the middle of the sides: represent the middle of the individual sides
yellow lines: they form right angles with the sides
pulsar wigeon
at least it's not calculus this time
olive garden
so the midpoint of the side is not bound to form a right angle when connected to the center
wide chasm
I think the constraint is for regular polygons
olive garden
What was the name of a triangle where 2 sides where the same? Iso something?
are 2 sides the same here?
upper flicker
good lord look at all this math shit 
pulsar wigeon
only equilateral triangles are regular
left swift
I found geometry so fun I took it twice
olive garden
oh okay
left swift
olive garden
๐
wide chasm
Proofing stuff in maths is the most fun stuff. The entire class failed when we had to do that, so they upped everyone's grades with 20% ๐
pulsar wigeon
should probably note that the right angle midpoint thing only applies to regular convex polygons too
jagged egret
there are so many cool math proofs
wide chasm
So then there were 3 people or so that didn't fail.
pulsar wigeon
regular concave polygons (stars) don't follow that either
jagged egret
see: Cantor's Diagonalization Argument
carmine canopy
eager isle
left swift
Were you one of the 3 people stef
wide chasm
Sadly no. I got a 39% or so in the end ๐
But I've done some proofs for uni, that went better
left swift
Gratz
Always triggered me when people used dots to indicate multiplication instead of *
jagged egret
dot product is the dot
ashen cliff
EU
jagged egret
multiplication is not
left swift
Or called it "timesing"
unreal quarry
I had an experience like that, stef. But it wasn't math. We were tasked with creating detailed instructions on how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Everyone failed.
jagged egret
ok but there's clearly one correct way to make a pb&j
wide chasm
You can probably write dozens of pages on how to do that and still not be very precise
left swift
What's the correct way
unreal quarry
It was to teach us that even the most mundane tasks have more details than anyone realizes at a glance. It was my first life lesson that got me on track to becoming a critical thinker and programmer ^_^
left swift
I need this essay done by 5:00pm est tonight thank you
ashen cliff
"Define define"
left swift
I can use ketchup to make a pb and j?
ashen cliff
Well yes, but no.
jagged egret
i was describing the right way to do it, not writing detailed instructions
left swift
I liked math too but I hated doing homework so I failed all my classes dropped out and got GED and went to a tech college
unreal quarry
Teach showcased every single one of our instructions by following them precisely. He never made a successful pb&j sandwich that day. Most instructions ended up with jar of pb and jar of jelly between two loafs of bread
left swift
pulsar wigeon
i'd like to imagine the teacher...yea that
acting like a complete dimwit but following the "instructions" to the letter
left swift
Must've tasted good
wide chasm
I wish my teachers were so precise. They have given me assignments that were completely ambiguous, so for every exercise I had to write several times "Assume x" at the start of the problem, just to not make it ambiguous.
unreal quarry
He was my fav teacher ever. He was the type that would do things like "I'll allow you to pull on the cord to unplug that, only if you can prove to me you can throw it back into the socket the same way"
vivid ivy
jagged egret
this is why banning is better than jailing
vivid ivy
not my screenshot, just thought it was hilarious
jagged egret
ah
vivid ivy
bro i crashed your network just for fun, c'mon man
void void
anyone know plugin so that people can't name items/tools etc bad names?
ashen cliff
I reported you to your ISP for spamming on my server, as a joke bro.
jagged egret
limber knotBOT
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jagged egret
kek
void venture
Can someone tell people Minecraft isn't The Sims
void venture
I have better things to procastinate on
eager crater
1934: Hitler invades Poland. Chamberlain assures Britain that the incursion is "just a joke, bro".
livid crown
last haven
kind vector
vivid ivy
Lmao
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: Add reminders to duck bot so I don't have to use paper for reminders
jagged egret
@woven otter i do believe that's yours
ashen cliff
Wait... what if you tagged everyone in the reminder?
woven otter
don't think you can
ashen cliff
upper flicker
it shouldnt work, there may be some very interesting way around it if you abuse some unicode depending on how discord parses it
void void
no stop
upper flicker
be a pretty quick ban at that point though
void void
we don't need that rage popping out again
upper flicker
theres a tweak I need to make that would stop it but I havent gotten there yet
upper flicker
last I used it you just dragged and dropped the plugin
void void
...does discord 10min cooldown not work?
upper flicker
it took care of most of the hard work for you
void void
yeah, I'm using server.pro, I installed it
normally it creates a dynmap folder, there you set the port
but for me, it doesnt create a folder, just Dynmap-3.0-beta-5-spigot.jar
ashen cliff
What server version are you running?
void void
Spigot 1.15.2
void venture
server.pro huh
void void
yeah, I run a small <10 player server, just all I need, very user-friendly, so I don't really mind
On one of my previous servers I also installed dynmap, there it did create a folder, but this time it doesnt
ive looked up many things but never found out why
jagged egret
can you paste your log file in a paste site pls
void void
Sure
here is the dynmap console output
Gives an error, saying it might be on the wrong version, it isn't
limber knotBOT
dynmap is outdated
cobalt surge
Why you talking over there cat
void void
lol
I guess it might be, I downloaded the "1.15.2" dynmap, even though the one I downloaded was tested on that version
huh guess this one works, made folder at least
let me try pasting in the port
cobalt surge
You crazy cat you.. ๐
limber knotBOT
there is no command
upper flicker
VSC
jagged egret
VSC but choose what you want
void void
definitely vsc
upper flicker
vim
void void
emacs
upper flicker
no 
limber knotBOT
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upper flicker
like windows and WSL
just duct tape on a better system since yours is bad :^)
use whatever though Im mostly memeing
onyx steeple
the WSL duct-tape is very disappointing though
jagged egret
so if I wanted to make a world generator that made floating islands but generated using vanilla structures & resources like trees and ore generation, what should I do
limber knotBOT
mod the server
upper flicker
I thought I saw something go through bukkit a while ago that added some way to delegate back into vanilla gen
limber knotBOT
runs
upper flicker
but I dont think its that granular
flint shore
upper flicker
you couldnt do islands with like vanilla structures on them afaik
without nms land
jagged egret
I can re-implement stuff from the server I just don't know where to start and what to go with
upper flicker
probably could in sponge though
onyx steeple
Hey Z790, it's been a while, eh
limber knotBOT
it seems to allow toggling caves, decorations, mobs and structures: https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/commits/6a4242cb72fba34b45bb584f75c12da1acd0beb2
upper flicker
hiya gsand
limber knotBOT
I really wish I had the caves toggle back when I generated my custom worlds ;_;
upper flicker
hey everyone who really loves/really hates that we're called paper, gsand is the guy to blame right here
glhf
/runs
upper flicker
we're running out of fluid based puns to base project names on
jagged egret
acknowledge the pun pls
limber knotBOT
then the next fork would've gone with "Tub"
jagged egret
is an sql database or a flatfile faster for storing information about each chunk
limber knotBOT
depends on what you want to do with it
pulsar wigeon
don't do IO on main thread
jagged egret
claro
pulsar wigeon
boom, ez
onyx steeple
@upper flicker yo yo yo, dm me
tawdry oak
limber knotBOT
so this is weird
upper flicker
large allocations should always result in larger GC times
are you saying Java 11 regressed on G1?
compared to 8?
oh you mean memory allocations
pulsar wigeon
large heaps or large allocations?
upper flicker
I thought you were saying object allocations
short yarrow
anyone know why systems that using cobol don't get updated/ported?
pulsar wigeon
$$
upper flicker
more expensive to rewrite than to keep duct taping along
pulsar wigeon
aikar has been trying to look into what's causing large objects, there's a recent commit for that
upper flicker
many of them are 'scheduled' to be rewritten but project scope grows, project goes over time, out of budget, finally delivers and then isnt what they really wanted
short yarrow
Ahhh I see
upper flicker
think stereotypical government project
short yarrow
yeah I know government systems use cobol
upper flicker
pretty much every bank transfer goes through some cobol at some point as well
everyone agrees its not ideal its just the cost/benefit stat that execs/c-levels/and other managers look for isnt there
void void
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=15212aad7fd6499486bf1cae5f29a2ef can someone help?
slim nymph
L oh L
short yarrow
does spigot have a discord server o.o?
pulsar wigeon
yes
short yarrow
oh wow lol when did that happen
upper flicker
april 1st
short yarrow
haha
void void
why don't you make your own plugin
Or have someone make it
the way you want?
to you
void void
to stop people xraying
pulsar wigeon
๐คฆ
frozen jacinth
void void
I've always tested the idea in my spare time, if I would actually have to use it, I can just perfect it
golden gust
there are certain aspects of anti-xray which are unviable with the server
At least, unviable without going crazy with stuff
void void
Ive tried multiple things but the most effective method imo, is to have every block hold a var, idk what the number was but just the amount of blocks you can find underground, set the var to the block it was, like diamond ore, gets variable diamond, then have the blocks all turn into a random block, leave of redstone block
jagged egret
wat
void void
once the blocks touch air, they revert to their previous block
Like hypixel used to do
golden gust
e.g. hiding chests is doable, but do you really want the server doing "can X see this TE" all the time, as well as things like air blocks being a crazy quirk of open world generation stuff, no real fix for that without lots of crazy work and killing the clients performance
short yarrow
Anyone know how anticheats stop/detect combat hacks? Like combat hacks seem extremely hard to detect and a ton of false positives
golden gust
because they are
it's generally all rule based, etc, e.g. how far can a player reasonably travel in so long
flint tangle
void void
Is there a way to change perspective on dynmap: surface
golden gust
issue is that you then have to provide means to compensate for things like TPS loss, etc, so you end up inducing a lot of extra crud into your calcs/checks, which often goes one way or the other
either you're over-zelous, or let more things slip
jagged egret
so I just ran sudo apt install mysql-server and it never prompted me to create a root password
I can't proceed with the installation bc it asks me for the password now o.o
no thanks
limber knotBOT
lol why not
mysql_secure_installation for setup
although out of the box it should have no password
jagged egret
that's the commadn that prompts me for the password
limber knotBOT
and you really should use mariadb. it's a drop in mysql performance that isn't slow.
twin lagoon
it doesn't have any password on debian's installers
limber knotBOT
@twin lagoon this megamind has something against mysql
jagged egret
I press enter, it says "enter password for user root" and then it says "access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'"
twin lagoon
mysql sux
limber knotBOT
and yeah not starting w/o loading privileges
slim nymph
the irony here is md5 acted like plugins can do it better. anythin a plugin can do, server can do better. the difference is we CHOOSE not to do the full level because its more intensive. we can provide good enough light weight anti xray w/o a huge hit.
Not like plugins have access to something that server doesnt
limber knotBOT
starting w/o loading privileges*
short yarrow
So when you visit the server list, does a packet get sent to all the servers on the list so they can send back their MOTD?
jagged egret
yes @short yarrow
slim nymph
@jagged egret check /etc/mysql/ for a .cnf file about debian
it has maintenance credentials in it
limber knotBOT
that's unnecessary and a misuse of the deb maintenance creds
slim nymph
maria or percona yes should always be used over normal mysql
limber knotBOT
maria is a drop in replacement
slim nymph
Airee well if he doesnt have access to root at all lol
limber knotBOT
mysql is just objectively worse in all cases
that doesn't sound like the situation @slim nymph
jagged egret
it's empty
limber knotBOT
it's not drop in for more modern mysql versions btw, anything before mysql 10 can be replaced directly iirc
slim nymph
oh wait, i know what it is, its the localhost vs 127 shit
i think i had samei ssue recently
jagged egret
nvm it's not empty i'm just an idiot
limber knotBOT
but mariadb is default for mysql in most distros nowadays ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
i demand an explanation as to why @jagged egret is determined to use a software that is worse in every way
jagged egret
bueno I'll use mariadb
limber knotBOT
yay
jagged egret
i thought it was some other db replacement like mongodb or something like that
limber knotBOT
ahhh
jagged egret
not cross-compatible
limber knotBOT
it's basically paper for mysql, except not at all