according to him, i have no idea
#general
void void
according to be it's anything involving the governance of a region(s)
to me*
and google agrees
but watever
plain karma
reef crown
cursive whale
pearl ibex
Good ol' ./paper jar` ./paper jar. :>
Whoops.
I should get some sleep.
./paper patch
./paper jar
Almost forgot how to get NMS. :P
urban mirage
timber jewel
void void
void void
jagged egret
hello
limber knotBOT
how do you use paper?
jagged egret
uhh
pearl ibex
I run it from a launch script. :P
limber knotBOT
haha, juuuuust kidding.
limber knotBOT
Yes, it's me.
pulsar wigeon
he mostly hangs in moss discord
onyx steeple
ah
slim nymph
well, i was planning to buy a new couch before this meltdown. even more needed now
been in this seat so much getting upand down the faux leather started tearing off
dire hound
onyx steeple
Yeah, leather match is the way to go.
slim nymph
my pc desk is not idea ot put my laptop on
onyx steeple
That's not good
slim nymph
i need to commit this code and just work on dayjob stuff from pc though
onyx steeple
I've been working out every day
for the past week
I'm gonna do the saitama workout for a month
slim nymph
while everyone is all depressed eating cookies and getting fat, gsands all lets work out
onyx steeple
@spare venture do bodyweight fitness
Hell yeah!
do cardio, listen to music or a podcast for 1 hour
winter bay
onyx steeple
@ancient bolt How's the thug life?
Do hand stands @spare venture
or yoga-like excercises.
onyx steeple
bear crawl
eternal trout
ancient bolt
@onyx steeple pretty isolated right now lol
onyx steeple
@slim nymph This pause is a good time to reflect and make life changing choices.
ancient bolt
did you hear I moved to california
onyx steeple
@ancient bolt you have the internet.
ancient bolt
yeah i mean not much ahs changed
onyx steeple
What city are you in?
eternal trout
can you use 0 tick farms in papermc?
ancient bolt
san jose
slim nymph
@eternal trout there is a config to turn that bug back on
but you need to accept that they are ending
they are gone in 1.16
eternal trout
shhhhhh
slim nymph
get your players to just accept it now
eternal trout
i need it temporarily
slim nymph
'need'
eternal trout
ill build a bigger cactus farm in a few
onyx steeple
@ancient bolt dang, that's far.
slim nymph
you confused the word need with want
cosmic raft
well
onyx steeple
well well well, a wild kashike appears.
cosmic raft
I've bought a new keyboard. Will be a while before I get it though
ancient bolt
lol yeah moved 1500 miles
cosmic raft
yes gsand
slim nymph
its a block update that triggers growth, a 0 tick farm manages to break and trigger the block update in same tick
onyx steeple
It is me, don't kick like last time ๐
slim nymph
real gsands would have an avatar, better kick him
cosmic raft
hehe
lost yarrow
onyx steeple
That's part of the charm, @cosmic raft, the mystery.
ancient bolt
nice
onyx steeple
how about... github?
ancient bolt
im playing with superglue right now
cosmic raft
just have to get it from minidigger when he gets it now
slim nymph
how about an avatar!
ancient bolt
i now have superglue on my fingers fuck
slim nymph
or real proof, where did you i and lax eat at together
taking too long to answer, obviously looking it up, ban
cosmic raft
@ancient bolt https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Ducky-One2-RGB-TKL
got this, but ISO-DE
ancient bolt
or real real proof, what is Z750's least favorite taco?
nice, I've been eying that one for a while
let me know how it is
ancient bolt
/r/mechanicalkeyboards has a lot of good things to say about it
slim nymph
is there an /r/membranekeyboards
onyx steeple
@slim nymph I was logging into github
Well, if you insist. There were multiple places in Anaheim.
There
cosmic raft
there what
ancient bolt
what
cosmic raft
if it's really you
ancient bolt
what am I looking for
onyx steeple
"It's me"
cosmic raft
write "kashike and demonwav are the best"
fallen oracle
Who is Fred and what did they do to 5 hour energy?
ancient bolt
mfw we both went for "the best" lines
cosmic raft
kek
onyx steeple
Refresh the page ;D
onyx steeple
worn ember
Who?
slim nymph
fakegsand
worn ember
Is that supposed to be someone important?
slim nymph
It's him.
onyx steeple
or is it... ;D
worn ember
Uh... Ok?
onyx steeple
How do you add people as friends on here?
vestal jasper
right click add friend
worn ember
Ctrl+r
vestal jasper
annoying
worn ember
Shitty apocalypse
vestal jasper
I'm at high risk of getting covid because retards have to get their board games and makeup
onyx steeple
Just wait, the people that recovered will turn into super zombies in a few months.
zicarious... corona or zika?
onyx steeple
vestal jasper
at least I'm only expected to cashier for 5 hours and not 8 now
onyx steeple
That's everywhere, if you're in Cali, you can claim partial unemployment benefits.
as far as I'm aware.
vestal jasper
I'm required to go to work unless my doctor says otherwise
vestal jasper
I'd rather not leave my job atm though
vestal jasper
I'm only expected to cashier for 5 hours now because we close down our department's registers 3 hours before store closing due to covid
worn ember
Belgium lol
onyx steeple
How much is housing?
slim nymph
trump cant have no monthly socialism you know, its eating him up to do a one time socialism
onyx steeple
No, it's a preview of next years taxes.
worn ember
I think housing here is easily around 800 a month
slim nymph
well yeah but cali salaries do almost double lol
slim nymph
cali making 200k as an engineer, man thats C suite here
onyx steeple
@worn ember lots of people work in San Diego and live in Mexico
onyx steeple
LOL
jagged egret
i just wrote a java application that generates nostalgia
onyx steeple
Only 90's kids will get it.
jagged egret
this morning in the shower I had an idea for an app that would monitor your notifications to compile a list of most-played songs every month
slim nymph
._. you making me feel old, im not a 90's kid
ancient bolt
@slim nymph my salary in california is more than double what it was in OKC, but my rent is more than triple
slim nymph
or do you mean kid during the 90's
jagged egret
poking around in Google Play Music I discovered that google already tracks you to no end, and you can download that as a JSON and parse it
onyx steeple
@slim nymph kid during the 90's
slim nymph
yeah ive heard that demon, can afford fancy cars but cant afford rent
onyx steeple
those born in the late 90's are "Zoomers"
slim nymph
since you can buy the car outside cali
zoomers are way later than that....
zoomers are post 911 lol
90's are still millinials
ancient bolt
My car is a black 2010 Honda Insight, it's not pretty, but I've paid it off and it's mine
onyx steeple
a Mercedes lease is 400 a month, average rent is 1600
ancient bolt
so I'll keep ti for a while
onyx steeple
lots of people have 2-3 roommates and a BMW
ancient bolt
I'm priviledged enough to be able to make enough to live alone in a nice apartment, but it's similar quality to what I had in OKC
onyx steeple
Same
ancient bolt
and yeah it was under 1k / month in OKC
onyx steeple
Nothing wrong with living with family
slim nymph
my mortgage is 1k/m~ roughly
ancient bolt
plan right now is to move back to OKC soon
slim nymph
yes
ancient bolt
and buy a house
slim nymph
i could get it cheaper if i refi though
prob down to like 800
but im considering going to 15yr instead
so would go up but not much
onyx steeple
I went to Houston in february, I was amazed how cheap things were
ancient bolt
living here in a big expensive city isn't for me
it's just too fucking expensive and too many fucking people
worn ember
Living isn't for me
slim nymph
should come here like i suggested before so ic an have more people to hang out with ๐
its in the middle
onyx steeple
What state?
worn ember
ancient bolt
lol OKC is in the middle too
slim nymph
raleigh nc
worn ember
Y'all dying of corona yet?
slim nymph
im dying from not drinking my corona yes
worn ember
I see the US is now the epicenter lol
slim nymph
so thanks for reminding me to go get one
onyx steeple
California appears to be flattening the curve
onyx steeple
Florida... everyone's gonna die.
mortal zinc
anyone here think it would be a good idea to ask md_5 if he ought to revert this commit? https://github.com/craftfabric/CraftBukkit/commit/453f49abd955310900ee5d2b3062753bb29924e9 (taken from a different repo that was not DMCA'd as a result of the original repo being DMCA'd)
ancient bolt
california was quick on the ball, as one would expect
worn ember
Rip NYC
ancient bolt
it's really nice to live in a place not run by idiots
slim nymph
lol vector
ancient bolt
but also rent is 3k / month so
slim nymph
not gonna happen. md5 has made it more of a PITA than wolve did even
slim nymph
he now breaks mappings mid version
expects you to build an adapter for every version break he does
mortal zinc
besides the thing that requires -DIKnowWhatImDoingISwear to not make the server nag of new updates?
ancient bolt
glances at PaperMCP
jagged egret
._.
ancient bolt
was supposed to fix that
onyx steeple
@ancient bolt yeah... that's how it is. 3K leases with increases of the limit every year.
slim nymph
well we are winning the war right now for 1.15 lol, keep pushing to like 70% then we can just break off
ancient bolt
@mortal zinc don't worry I gotchu https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/Spigot-Server-Patches/0165-Fix-this-stupid-bullshit.patch
mortal zinc
how often will he change the mappings?
slim nymph
when ever his butt gets an itch
ancient bolt
idk I think breaking compat with spigot wouldn't be a good idea even once we have the majority
mortal zinc
HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU STRAIGHT COMMENT OUT THE 20 SECOND TIMER
slim nymph
why? we get to start fixing his issues
ancient bolt
lots of plugins haven't been updated in years and rely on NMS
and people will complain and go back to spigot
worn ember
Their loss
slim nymph
plugins that havent been updated in years on nms dont work anymore
ancient bolt
that's a fair point
mortal zinc
just build a plugin almost like ViaVersion except something that translates
ancient bolt
and if we ever did mcp we'd include a compat mapping layer anyways
worn ember
Or just don't make nms plugins
slim nymph
not talking about redesigning the real api
ancient bolt
so it doesn't matter
the only difference would be moving completely away from spigot's build process
which would make switching to mcp easy as hell
mortal zinc
it intrigues me that md_5's operation is still going after all this time
slim nymph
well yeah we could redesign everything build, go from a pure mcp. I think we would need tier level of patches
slim nymph
MCP
Tier 1: Base + Security
Tier 2: API
Tier 3: Performance
Tier 4: Features
mortal zinc
true
ancient bolt
I could easily build that without any of the issues we have with integrating spigot's build
mortal zinc
but if he opened up a bit perhaps he'd realize the paper guys have more in common with him, you think that's accurate to say?
worn ember
Tier 5: Tacos
mortal zinc
or is md_5's direction entirely different to your vision?
onyx steeple
Tier 6: Salsa
ancient bolt
md5 was included in the rest of the minecraft community for a while, including the post-bukkit-death discussions
onyx steeple
Tier 7: Exotic Meats
worn ember
hes an idiot
I'd argue you do have that in comon
ancient bolt
but he was a dick to people and no one wanted to work with him and he went off on his own
ancient bolt
And now the MC community it split pretty much between Not-Spigot and Spigot
We interact with and share work between Forge, Sponge, Velocity, etc
Spigot is the only project off on its own
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
mortal zinc
i suppose there went out the window any hope i had of bridging the divides... I tried a few times though
slim nymph
weve had this convo with you before lol
mortal zinc
yeah
ancient bolt
it's not really our problem that spigot is so intent on being separate
it doesn't hurt us and we don't really care
slim nymph
theres one way for us to get together with spigot
for him to step down and us take over
onyx steeple
@slim nymph may or may have been a factor
worn ember
Or for md to have an "accident"
onyx steeple
in the creation of this project.
worn ember
๐
slim nymph
what?
mortal zinc
@slim nymph was a big factor in getting me to switch my server software from CraftBukkit to paper, only I ended up forking it and called my custom server papyrus :3
worn ember
slim nymph
i actually asked to join the spigot team when he launched 1.8 and said he was looking for people to join.... didnt even get a response
mortal zinc
lo and behold I ended up donating a few of our custom events / code to paper XD
slim nymph
you know, not like i wasnt the largest contributor to the project with the most improvements
ancient bolt
yeah everyone in paper was active with spigot in the early days
we were ignored & pushed away ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
onyx steeple
When the split happened, a few people expected what happened to happen.
worn ember
This is deep down memory lane
mortal zinc
i didn't know where to turn, was looking at glowstone for a bit, then lucked out when md_5 said he was taking over the bukkit project
slim nymph
but hey ive fought hard, and now: https://aikar.co/papersig.png?2weffwtret
ancient bolt
Aikar has been paper's cheerleader for a while lol
mortal zinc
oh hey aikar remember this? https://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/5tcx5l/what_paper_is_why_i_use_it_and_why_you_should_too/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) What Paper is, why I use it, and why you should too : admincraft - 17 comments, 24 points - AlphaBlend, 3y ago
worn ember
Are the forums still as dead tho?
slim nymph
yeah, got a random person poste dthe other day lol
spigot community is more plugin devs than admins
slim nymph
spigot discord is code vision v2
worn ember
True
worn ember
I've been behaving :)
onyx steeple
"ey how you instal papre!"
worn ember
All the brainlets don't get past wiz lol
onyx steeple
He whips the llama into shape!
ancient bolt
I like that spigot hangs around
onyx steeple
erm
ancient bolt
it gives a place for some of the more toxic people to go
slim nymph
lol...
ancient bolt
if spigot went away they'd all come here
onyx steeple
I haven't banned anyone ever!
vestal jasper
Me 
ancient bolt
k I banned him
jagged egret
that's... the same thing
mortal zinc
i know, just not an official title
merry talon
did that use to say paper?
merry talon
why even keep that message if he's going to change it
slim nymph
i love how he kept my personal server advertisement lol, but papers wasnt ok
i wonder what he would say if i asked him to change attribution to Aikar of PaperMC
fallen oracle
Oop, wiz just got tagged.
ancient bolt
Don't ever forget he was always allowed to use timings v2
he chose not to for...
idk
no reason
vestal jasper
onyx steeple
spite is a reason
ancient bolt
โค๏ธ @vestal jasper
slim nymph
sadly when he moved it he took away me cheating to get a free backlink from spigots domain lol
vestal jasper
hi
onyx steeple
@slim nymph Marketing GENIUS!
slim nymph
i was toally linking to timings from my spigot profile using a spigot redirect which doesnt get ref=nofollow'd
ancient bolt
did banning you remove your nitro lol
onyx steeple
@slim nymph Which email marketing provider do you recommend?
slim nymph
_> i may be a bit biased there
onyx steeple
;D
ancient bolt
I would recommend not using one based on PHP
slim nymph
If it's for non profit, or general non commercial activities, we just launched a nice free plan to help with covid19 communication ๐
slim nymph
@ancient bolt php for most part has not hurt our architecture. its made some designs questionable sure, but im pushing to rewrite stuff in node.js where applicable
my framework is so badass, its a joy to work with
im doing amazing things with it
ancient bolt
every JS dev ever
slim nymph
i reallllly hope i can get it open sourced
well i write JS like java lol. to the "JS leaders", theyll hate this framework
I'm a rebel when it comes to the js ecosystem
ancient bolt
oh so it's probably a lot better
I had an idea for a stats server I'm going to try and write in rust
I want stats on mcdev but I can't use any prebuilt thing because that would pull too much info and people probably wouldn't like it
slim nymph
typed (well its js, compile time only), oop, interface based design
ancient bolt
so if I write something simple to only track like 2 varaibles then that would be nicer
slim nymph
using multi process for concurrency and IPC for communication, but node 12 has worker threads now, hope to move to them
pure garden
Is it possible to edit how many players are required to skip night cycle?
onyx steeple
Probably.
fallen oracle
Aikar I never checked but does locale have json support?
slim nymph
player.setAffectsSleeping() or something
pure garden
true
slim nymph
locale has nothing to do with minecraft glare
its a locale framework for strings
but ACF's use of locale no does not support json
fallen oracle
Alrighty. Just trying to see best way to implement json messages in a shape or form with acf
Kk
slim nymph
you could use locale in your own json messages sure
fallen oracle
Ehh it's not that big of a deal I don't like messing with the inners of acf in case I break something
slim nymph
or you could register a custom handler to deal with sending messages
fallen oracle
Ooo true
ancient bolt
okay gonna cook dinner / do dishes or something
slim nymph
onyx steeple
@ancient bolt make tacos.
slim nymph
you can create your own BukkitComandIssuer that extends it, tell acf to use your version
pure garden
Possible to extend the day time duration
slim nymph
then itll be your job to determine if its a json message or not and send it differently
maybe do some prefix :JSON:{foo}
vestal jasper
"it's typed, well, compiletime"
ah yes typescript
onyx steeple
@pure garden probably.
slim nymph
@vestal jasper well were actually using flow lol. at the time we were bandwagoning everything else facebook, and flow can be partially used in your project. it integrates better with babel and other "current supported js syntax". since TS is its own language.
Easier transition path.
do like some elements of flow over ts, but also like some elements of ts over flow. but ts is winning clearly
ts requires all or nothing to use, not possible to do on an existing project, where as flow can be introduced to an existing code base and start typing as you go.
vestal jasper
makes sense
onyx steeple
@ancient bolt I usually get chicken, a bit of butter, carrots, potatoes, tomatoes, wrap them together in aluminum foil, put them in the oven at 350ยฐ for 40 minutes.
slim nymph
and TS made a bad design choice that will annoy me lol
foo(val?: number = 1): void {} is invalid in TS
which is wrong!
val? says the parameter is optional, and if it is supplied, it must be a type of number. default of =1 is an implementation detail. impl details should not affect api spec constraints
onyx steeple
Woah, I just checked out the hypixel game website.
Game looks like what everyone hoped minecraft would become.
terse nova
Hypixel tempbanned me because my account was hacked ๐
fierce dune
Which versions of worldguard and edit should i be using for a 1.8.8 server?
jagged egret
ew
slim nymph
https://hytale.com/news/2020/3/progress-update-march-26-2020 why are we still touching minecraft ._.
i want this lol
the cool stuff i could do for my server with hytales power man
we have a pretty good custom mob system that doesnt rely on overriding nms
but hytales looks even nicer
mojang be like yo heres a new ai system, have some streams
well considering how popular the launch video was...
they have a pretty good chance at success long as they dont bone the marketing launch
merry talon
tbh with the sheer number of massively overhyped games in the past that bombed
slim nymph
they need to make the launch massive. TV ads, hit everything kids loo kat
merry talon
I'm waiting til release to get excited at all
slim nymph
and make the game free to download
major marketing launch with a free game.... will be hard to screw that up
it has everythin people like about minecraft but better quality
eager crater
is it something different from just Minecraft with mods?
magic ice
best part about hytale imo is that their server software is gonna be provided shared source
slim nymph
@eager crater oh boy welcome to the enlightened future: https://youtu.be/o77MzDQT1cg
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Hytale - Announcement Trailer - length 2m 23s - 470,855 likes, 11,631 dislikes (97.6%) - 55,613,907 views - Hytale on 2018.12.13
slim nymph
this is being made by Hypixel
merry talon
did they say it would be free?
slim nymph
they said in the past they hadnt committed to whether or not it would be free
limber knotBOT
maybe a recorring payment model
eager crater
also thanks for all your hard work on Paper it really helped my server out ๐
slim nymph
they can make more money on servers gsand
merry talon
well if you take a look at fortnite and other free games as of late
slim nymph
overtaking MC in sheer dominance is a key factor here
merry talon
free makes MORE money
slim nymph
"mom, can you buy me this game" -> "I already bought you minecraft"
limber knotBOT
Yeah, I guess you're right
eager crater
Infiniminer called and wanted it's global dominance back
slim nymph
i just hope they eventually get a linux client for launch ๐ฆ
even if it requires mono
i know asking for non mono client is too much to ask for lol
jagged egret
mono?
slim nymph
.NET on linux
client will be in C#
server is in java
see the good thing is, its being built by a company that knows a thing or 2 about high performance needs of running large servers...
theyve said some promising things about multihreaded server software
jagged egret
i imagine
slim nymph
java has never been minecrafts problem. its been the team writing the code
jagged egret
yeah
eager crater
based on paper and optifine's results there's obviously a lot to optimize there
the wife was like "so it's like if Minecraft was more like WoW" and I'm like "Possibly if Roblox lured WoW into a dark alley and rooted through it's pockets for loose plot"?
void void
hytale gonna cring
onyx steeple
@eager crater definitely
eager crater
is cring good or bad?
eager crater
Looks epic. Okay, so to clarify, it's a new codebase, but it's essentially the same you'd get with like CrazyMC and a shader pak?
void void
idk looks kinda ugly
onyx steeple
Eh, it has potential
void void
looks like mobile game
eager crater
'cos Minecraft is a beauty queen ๐
void void
roblox is clusterfuck
onyx steeple
regardless, roblox is popular
eager crater
ya get it so it can be halfway decent on my kid's tablet and it may have legs
limber knotBOT
is hytale even...like...any closer to being out than it was 2 years ago
limber knotBOT
sure whatever
void void
the release date is 2021
eager crater
ok so maybe a silly question but is there a view distance to ram calculator out there somewhere or do I just have to remember the formula
void void
just deditate 10 gb wam
eager crater
โ
void void
can u even mine and place blocks in it
slim nymph
its like, an actually competent development team is actually making a game for a change
yes
void void
disgusting
day 2 of hytale release: minecraft texture pack mod is released
day 3 of hytale release: minecraft total conversion mod
slim nymph
i like the art style. it has the minecraft feel, but more complexity
you could prob rebuild mc in hytale i bet
eager crater
the big chunky ore blocks looked... juicy?
slim nymph
who's gonna be the one to write a world converter ๐
void void
ye
slim nymph
the ability to use custom art assets on a server side mod that the client automatically downloads ๐คค
servers will control everything more than we have in MC, but with more artistic power
you can make custom item models, custom mob models
client doesnt have to download anything
void void
nice
slim nymph
and my understanding is you can even do custom UI's too
void void
i wonder if ping will be annoying
slim nymph
why would it
slim nymph
thats not so much the games fault lol
void void
hypixel is aids with ping
slim nymph
and having the servers source code is going to be nice. still iffyness on legal for a project like this though
onyx steeple
Just download more RAM
slim nymph
well youll be able to run your own server
void void
yea
like from my PC or does hytale host it for me
same as minecraft like
cos roblox i think they host the gamemode for u
not sure tho never tried to do roblox server or gamemode coding
mortal zinc
is it that mojang is too cautious to add more multi-threading into the game? what's their main issue with the project?
slim nymph
please explain to me why roblox is popular with > 10 yr olds now. my brother is playing it, been hounding him for it
fallen oracle
Apparently you can make really good money on the development side of it.
slim nymph
i think him playing roblox made microsoft switch his account into child restrictions. he all of a sudden was locked out of Teen games on xbox lol
I had to go unlock it for him
void void
It's a nice intro to dev.
idk roblox is weird af
i cant even figure how u find games
Kids ca make their own games on there
fallen oracle
Phantom Forces was the shit.
void void
the reccommended ones suck
yea call of duty game i played that a bit
takes a while to unlock stuff tho
all the cool guns and mods
fallen oracle
I was a god until they did an update and I left for like 3 years.
void void
the recoil is pretty nuts
fallen oracle
I did play a game of MW today, I was trash.
But I mean that game has paid for all of those devs colleges.
slim nymph
its bad enough dealing with theyoungness of minecraft. i couldnt imagine roblox
fallen oracle
It's actually better. They aren't old enough to complain.
mortal zinc
@slim nymph what do you see with the incompetence of the mojang devs?
slim nymph
did you really just ask me that
mortal zinc
i guess at this time they have like 7 or 8 devs working on java edition?
void void
they make cringe bee mob for an entire version update
slim nymph
have you not updated minecraft int he past 4 years
have you not seen the pain we've dealt with for the past few years fixing the game
mortal zinc
well, what's the context, are you talking about performance, or how they do things internally? yeah I haven't updated past 1.12.2 tbh
slim nymph
code quality, performance, choices. not talking about features
keeping fry on the team
void void
who fry
slim nymph
a mojang dev who is destroying the code one update at a time
void void
did he make bee mob
slim nymph
no, hes the one responsible for DFU and Streams and who knows what else new
void void
do they just get devs from microsoft or do they recruit minecrafters
slim nymph
neither?
void void
ik they try to hire optifine guy but declined
slim nymph
'minecrafters' is too broad of a term
merry talon
they hire like any other tech company would
void void
when u apply to mojang u gotta showcase ur mega builds xd
mortal zinc
the deepest I've ever gotten into CraftBukkit is restoring the beta aether into Minecraft 1.3.2
but also having to maintain my fork
so yeah, I have a slight idea what you guys are dealing with
slim nymph
when i launched my 1.15 update, servers barely made 10 tps
when 1.12 was perfectly fine at 20
and thats after months or was it a year after paper had already been working on 1.15 too
@onyx steeple are you genuinely looking for an ESP or did you only ask out of a joke knowing i work for an ESP lol
onyx steeple
;D
At some point, I'll have to use those services.
Well, not me, but a friend.
@merry talon oface?
merry talon
of ace
slim nymph
well our support is good. other esp's dont give as much human support. thats what we are known for. and people love our templates/ui.
onyx steeple
0-face
slim nymph
my primary focus is now on our automation stack
stray mantle
onyx steeple
You work for the one that starts with an i, right?
mortal zinc
aikar how did you get into performance code?
mortal zinc
well that's really good
merry talon
I've never understood why none of them offer both marketing and transactional emails
slim nymph
but, starting mc work in 2012.... shit wasnt great. tps was always 10
merry talon
why make me go with two separate services for email
slim nymph
@merry talon ugh... yeah i know. im actually gonna push to rewrite our mail stack with the business goal of saying we can add transactional mail support
merry talon
heh
slim nymph
ive actually already fully wrote out the design spec lol
ive told my boss i want to do it, i went ahead and wrote a document on the entire plan
just gotta get past current projects to then see if can push that
merry talon
good luck with that
slim nymph
i have a great boss who pushes for good ideas ๐
onyx steeple
How big is your team, @slim nymph ?
slim nymph
i literally have spent past 2 months writing a massive re-architecture of part of my frameworks core message delivery system
6 devs, 2 product, 1 dev manager, 3 ops, 3 qa
though my boss doesnt manage product or ops, but hes a connector for entire team
actually wait he might products manager now, idk lol
my framework is a base design on pubsub, and we used apache kafka for event delivery. kafka has bit us in the ass big time, well specifically the node.js client, and maybe lack of experience on the server side for ops, dunno. so im finishing up getting us off kafka and completing my dream
built a mesh network where each member knows about other members subscriptions, and can pass events directly to known subscribers, and automatic load redistribution ensuring entire cluster is even load
can spin up a horizontally scalable application with so little effort ๐
green turret
I decided to bravely just jump for the Catalina update on my Hackintosh. I shouldn't have done that.
green turret
Since I have to start over again now, should I try to just install Catalina from the get-go or go with Mojave? Mojave worked fine for the couple of weeks I used it until I decided to update, but maybe a fresh install will work?
Didn't they specifically say that names should align with the forums? What if your Discord name doesn't? :P
green turret
Ahh
Okay serious question: Is it possible to identify people based on their farts? I was wondering if it would be possible to introduce a third authentication factor in the form of a biometric sensor that checks farts. So if anyone ever wanted to break into my shit (heheh), they'd need to fart on a device or force me to do so.
green turret
Welcome to the loudness wars!
limber knotBOT
It's even better with sound
merry talon
now deploy it at 3 am
ashen yacht
slim nymph
these changes to Zoom are going to be annoying and unnecessary. whats so hard locking meetings to only members within an org....
im sure our monday standups gonna be some confusion
magic ice
somber viper
noble musk
void void
hexed heart
fallen oracle
So, fun fact about that, I have an exam in 2 weeks and they are requiring me to have my camera on. I'm going to record my background and have myself come in with a nerf gun and see if my procture is actually watching or not.
undone steppe
void void
so like, what about ppl who dont have cams
maiden swan
fallen oracle
Ikr. I don't have a cam.
void void
I do but I unplug it and hide it
limber knotBOT
why would they force you to have a cam?
to prevent cheating?
that doesnt really solve cheating at all, lol
unless its a 360 camera of your room ๐
verbal bone
wide chasm
Course prerequisites: a 360 degree camera /s
digital parcel
olive garden
> turn your camera on
> no u
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welcome to vaargs blow
void void
varargs create dum array smh
ancient bolt
this is why I prefer using C
quasi valley
manic trout
sweet wagon
olive garden
use your fingers
twin lagoon
use aluminium foil
bonus poinits when wrapping it with a bit of coloured electrical tape
golden gust
you can get that in cable form from china
next cargo
void void
wide chasm
I have to submit an assignment for History of Science today, but the textbook which is required for it hasn't arrived yet, so this is gonna be fun.
blazing urchin
olive garden
What should I look into if I want to detect specific methods during compilation time in eg. a Maven plugin? I kind of want access to an IntelliJ PSI-like structure probably
woven remnant
karmic gull
ruby mason
fresh quiver
gloomy magnet
limber knotBOT
For some reason I read History of Magic and now I'm thinking of what all the science replacements would be for Hogwarts classes
Like, Potions is obviously Chemistry but Transfiguration should probably also be Chemistry?
gloomy magnet
twin adder
latent valve
look fun lol
twin adder
fuc
cedar spade
When were the org.bukkit.metadata APIs added again?
Got several PRs to review that use them but I can't remember which metadata API was which
queen tusk
timid finch
how to get
MinX:
MaxX:
MinZ:
MaxZ:
of my world?
any cmds or such for so
world center at x: -5149 z: 3638
border is 3k
pulsar wigeon
min x = center x - radius, max x = center x + radius...
worn ember
limber knotBOT
-.-
open dragon
ebon marlin
slim nymph
Did paper get advertised somewhere, sure is a lot of new people lol
void void
every day a lot of people appear like this
slim nymph
phoenix they could be talking about the new metadata api, i dunno how to tell em apart though
package wise i mean
glad tinsel
limber knotBOT
probably with 1.16 coming somewhat closer again
and paper being great of course ;)
limber knotBOT
hopefully our saviour wiz will be there to keep it clean
void void
praise wiz
worn ember
Would anyone know if its possible to set a "contract" in intellij that indicates that a returned collection is immutable?
void void
no
olive garden
it is possible
olive garden
check out the newest version of intellij annotations
void void
or whatever collection, List, Set etc etc
worn ember
java has Collections#unmodifiableMap but theres no way for intellij to know its unmodifiable, so i cant fix my code where i do try to modify it
i guess i'll just have to search for the usages then
void void
just wanted to point that out
limber knotBOT
why would you not know whether your given collection is modifiable or not
from the usage point
worn ember
i'm just doing some code cleanup and getting rid of mutating my list from getters
so it'd be nice for intellij to show me where i do this
wide chasm
@Unmodifiable and @UnmodifiableView should cover immutability and unmodifiability iirc
olive garden
yeah, you're right
worn ember
hmm i cant seem to get those annotations to work tho
i've added jetbrains annotations lib tho
wide chasm
Please don't ask questions across multiple channels.
worn ember
proven hedge
wide chasm
copper cradle
dusky saffron
cunning badge
@void void Custom logger config of log4j?
slim nymph
@void void set disconnect reason to empty and kick them with the message instead
limber knotBOT
mfw one of my plugins is having issues to resolve dependencies ;_;
slim nymph
?
cunning badge
If you want to stop them before joining your server you could use the AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent
Oh nvm ๐
latent valve
jagged egret
is it possible to make an item appear in this grid every time a player opens their inventory?
jagged egret
that's what i meant
green turret
Aren't inventory opens client side?
As in, the client doesn't send a packet to tell the server that an inventory is being opened.
jagged egret
depends on the inventory
all inventories minus the player's are opened by the server
green turret
Well this specific inventory you're interested in ๐
jagged egret
Yeah that's why I'm asking
'cause it seems like the window items packet is used to update the player's inventory, and I dunno if the client would listen to instructions to set the crafting grid and result
static badge
it will
jagged egret
cool
static badge
just use the right inventory
jagged egret
ye
humble ridge
velvet garden
Hm, are there any plugins available that automatically enable whitelist if the server crashes and restarts without vital plugins enabled (a sort of server integrity checker)?
or has anyone ever spotted a plugin like this
slim nymph
seems like a good idea. i do that in my fork itself lol
except i shut the server down
if plugin is not enabled
though that only detects issues at start, not misbehavior post start
limber knotBOT
I think he refers to proper runtime crashes
slim nymph
theres no such thing as a perma crash at runtime
limber knotBOT
@Kโopโo9โ42โ https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/requiredplugins.67281/
stuck lava
slim nymph
if the plugin is loaded post enable, its the plugins job to handle errors
velvet garden
Oh nice, this is exactly what I was looking for. Yeah, our host's out-of-diskspace system is kinda janky. Sometimes it doesn't work and the host runs out of disk space, crashing the server and corrupting some config files
dapper nacelle
wait viper that is illegal
velvet garden
then multicraft detects the crash and tries to automatically boot the server up without permissions and worldguard LMAO
slim nymph
i tried to find a good social distancing gif, found this https://tenor.com/bbHuF.gif
limber knotBOT
ahh alright I just understood what he wanted wrong
dapper nacelle
wtf is that gif
cold pumice
...
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aikar
golden gust
mfw
limber knotBOT
lol
cold pumice
No ๐
static badge
you don't need to tell us about this teletubby fetish
wide chasm
We already know about it
timber vine
limber knotBOT
a giant telletubby crashing into earth
slim nymph
please tell me that show is dead
cold pumice
So that's what happened? Dang
static badge
.g teletubbies
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletubbies -- Teletubbies - Wikipedia: "Teletubbies is a British children's television series created by Ragdoll Productions' Anne Wood and Andrew Davenport for BBC. The programme focuses..."
wide chasm
I'm fairly certain it's still airing here
limber knotBOT
didn't some kid cut their belly open and the show had to do bai bai? :>
static badge
still alive
worn ember
that shit was godlike
limber knotBOT
every day.
wide chasm
Religiously
cold pumice
Looks like the final episode date was 2001
wide chasm
You'd know all about that, wouldn't you Kenny?
peak nimbus
wide chasm
Tinky Winky was apparently a gay role model, wtf
slim nymph
says there was a revival of the show in 2015, still ongoing
pulsar wigeon
- yea i can't kick him since z removed supreme overlord
pulsar wigeon
- that seems like the correct usage of the word i guess?
wide chasm
It was pretty much just a copy of what is said on the wikipedia page
at stupid people now
limber knotBOT
cuz they suck
slim nymph
nitro boosters get them
limber knotBOT
every server hiding them behind boosts or ranks are cowards
wide chasm
So... is that thing not just an April Fools joke?
slim nymph
i spend more in a single day on fast food than nitro lol
static badge
nitro is literally 50/year
pulsar wigeon
static badge
err classic is 50
worn ember
yeah but i dont have an actual income
static badge
real is 100
limber knotBOT
I looked onto the discord twice, one of those I saw andrew pinging wiz lmao
worn ember
occasionally i get to take money from minecraft kids for a commision
slim nymph
im still on classic so i lost my boosts
wide chasm
Oh that guy
limber knotBOT
fun guy
worn ember
who?
pulsar wigeon
dw about it
worn ember
ohhh
wide chasm
He was already great when he joined here /s
worn ember
i think i remember him
he was the dude that starts raging when he doesnt get help instantly right?
and starts pinging random people
limber knotBOT
also do people here just get notable for.. existing longer? :aaa:
wide chasm
No that's all the other 7000 people in here Dark /s
limber knotBOT
just throw away your table
wide chasm
I think notable is just for "you have done something that a lot of people know about"
worn ember
better go jump of your minecraft house now
limber knotBOT
than you have no table!
cold pumice
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
worn ember
I have created clearchat, its pretty much known everywhere
void void
.rekt
wide chasm
gives no table role to Dark
limber knotBOT
โ Great Rektspectations
farts loudly in mikroskeem's general direction.
I have a broadcast plugin, does that count?
lavish nova
i once committed in spigot
wide chasm
Yes, but you are bot so it cancels out
limber knotBOT
wow bottist once more
worn ember
meh rating is 10 on the spigot forums, thats good enough right?
limber knotBOT
one day the bots will rise
static badge
committing gets ya nowhere
worn ember
ok no more commiting
limber knotBOT
committing game end?
worn ember
well in that case it does get you somewhere
limber knotBOT
and build a wonderful treehouse?
wide chasm
All trees need a treehouse
true canyon
The no table role is for users who have a long established history of only having chairs.
worn ember
they wont tell me what email i used to register and i cant find their confirmation email anywhere so i cant enter the auth code
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
limber knotBOT
andrew must've had a fat chair then
worn ember
lmao i just found this gem from 2017
oh cmon bruh
they disabled the security for 24hours for me
sent 6 days ago
limber knotBOT
lol
worn ember
i mean, to be fair it did take them 6 days to reply in the first place
cunning badge
So how do I force an enum being loaded before another so I can reference it?
wide chasm
You mean a specific entry? Or the entirety of the enum?
limber knotBOT
did you do cross references?
wide chasm
Put it above the first one. Entries are loaded in order iirc.
cunning badge
In the constructor the enum returns null, later it returns the enum correctly
Wdym with above?
in the hierachy?
wide chasm
Oh yes, for a single enum was what I was thinking about.
limber knotBOT
and you are completely certain that there are no references the other way around?
cunning badge
Yes
limber knotBOT
hm
woeful jasper
wide chasm
Afaik the enums are intialized on class load, which should happen upon invocation of something in that class.
olive garden
issues with enum initialization? are you calling external stuff from the enum constructor?
limber knotBOT
he's referencing enum B in enum A's contructor
static badge
treat the individual enums loading as static final fields
cunning badge
I even tried loading the class using a classloader
olive garden
shows us enum A, B constructors
cunning badge
But well ... I guess it has to do with the changes I did in the ValerosClass itself
Dont kill me:
olive garden
that's not the constructor
cunning badge
I know I never said it is
olive garden
fine, bye
limber knotBOT
he already sent them in defv a bit earlier
worn ember
https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/677998925944193041 quick reminder that this exists
olive garden
I checked the last half hours of chat, it's not there
worn ember
๐ now make it hack the FBI
olive garden
are you a university student, Viper?
wide chasm
He already made it hack the FBI; "Banana" is the result of it working /s
Understandable, all my passwords are also Banana.
worn ember
mine is BaNaNa
olive garden
I personally use B4nanna