wiz what are your alternatives to netty?
#general
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pulsar wigeon
even if large networks had stats on, they don't have 10s of thousands of servers lmao
netty
why would you want an alternative
mortal zinc
impressive 1.7.10 is down to 1.6%
wiz appears that way, although i don't know his daily routines, or how many people he has to deal with
void void
Good it deserves to die. I wonder when 1.8 will lol.
pulsar wigeon
even higher on modern versions
~36% for 1.13+
quarantine lol https://i.imgur.com/tTZiL6b.png
wide chasm
Yeah, saw that increase by I thought it was 15k or something
void void
That's not quarantine that's just recommendations/mandatory shut downs.
pulsar wigeon
oh look we have a fucking pedant here
noun
noun: quarantine; plural noun: quarantines
a state, period, or place of isolation in which people or animals that have arrived from elsewhere or been exposed to infectious or contagious disease are placed.
"many animals die in quarantine"
verb
verb: quarantine; 3rd person present: quarantines; past tense: quarantined; past participle: quarantined; gerund or present participle: quarantining
impose isolation on (a person, animal, or place); put in quarantine.
because all the recommendations/mandatory shut downs aren't imposing isolations
void void
Most people are not being isolated they just can't do as much.
pulsar wigeon
are you retarded or being serious atm
void void
isolation would be like being sectioned off in a hospital or to be required to stay at your house, etc.
golden gust
the general advice is to don't leave the house unless you have to
You can't just lock people inside, etc
mortal zinc
for california that's the order, where i live
golden gust
literally won't work in any capacity
pulsar wigeon
2:01 PM] FriendlyPerson: isolation would be like being sectioned off in a hospital or to be required to stay at your house, etc.
correct
like, people are actually being told to stay home outside of doing important things like getting groceries
void void
I got you but you can still be socializing with up to 10 people at 6 feet apart from each other and such.
mortal zinc
i'm curious to know the kinds of people you hang out with wiz whom you never have to insult
worn ember
does bstats run on the proxy? or just the individual servers?
wide chasm
Individual servers
worn ember
bad
wide chasm
But also proxy
pulsar wigeon
worn ember
stevehead ๐คฎ
mortal zinc
because you must insult people pretty regularly in other places too tbh
isn't it expected that some people don't know as much as others, and perhaps be ok with that? just my two cents
pulsar wigeon
how about you keep your opinions to yourself
especially when they're completely wrong
wide chasm
Here we go ๐ฟ
worn ember
its time
merry talon
it is certainly not a hash nor any reasonable encoding
mortal zinc
well your opinions are hurtful to others, so no i don't think i want to keep mine to myself
merry talon
it has whitespace
worn ember
wiz gonna mald
golden gust
This one time, I compimented a friend, and she automatically threw it back to me like I'd insulted her without thinking
mortal zinc
i'm pretty sure no one you insult thinks the intention was the same as your intention for insulting them
but may i ask why you do that?
is there anything you get out of it?
does it help them get better at knowledge, or does it make them feel stupid? i'm trying to find the intent of this
you do it ALL the time
pulsar wigeon
is there anything you get out of this?
or are you just trying to feel like you're doing something good
fyi i get people quite often telling me that they managed to figure things out after receiving my guidance
mortal zinc
i just want to understand
pulsar wigeon
so yes, it does help people get "better at knowledge" if they are actually willing to learn
mortal zinc
actually i think your intent is to help people in a way
pulsar wigeon
and the people who just want to get spoonfed answers can fuck off
golden gust
people need to pull their fingers out more and actually RTFM instead of expecting people to think for them
faint robin
golden gust
1.14+ has especially shown how lazy server owners are
mortal zinc
hmmm
i think there is a kind of respect i have for that kind of thinking, it's just quite abrasive
reminds me of something my brother-in-law would do
wide chasm
Lazy server owners are the best server owners /s
mortal zinc
but i completely agree with you
pulsar wigeon
literally couldn't give a shit what you think about it m8
golden gust
purrs
cunning badge
mortal zinc
you don't deserve someone like me to question your motives so why should you care
you're absolutely right
pulsar wigeon
this place is basically a meme war already tbh
speaking of quarantines like
we need to do a better job of purging #memes with copious amounts of fire
mortal zinc
lol
pulsar wigeon
lmao getting ready to take a shower an i just realized my "tomorrow outfit" has been sitting folded on the chair for the past week
cuz i've been working from home
weeee
golden gust
I spend lots of time dedicated to projects like this and mcMMO, as well as being somewhat involved in various parts of the community, etc . The least I can ask is that people actually bother to pull their finger out of their asses and RTFM and use their brains, 1.14+ was a maaajor "fuck you" to anybody who believed that server owners aren't lazy af
wide chasm
Were there people that believed server owners aren't lazy?
Well, maybe the server owners I suppose.
mortal zinc
has 1.15 yet addressed the issues 1.14 had?
golden gust
not 100%
mortal zinc
performance
golden gust
but, the issues are will documented all heck all over the community
*well
Not to mention the optimization guide, the advice that I seem to repeat almost daily
At this point in time, I mostly ignore timing reports from people
'lest I start banning people for refusing to fix stuff yet begging for their hands to be held
stiff yarrow
I predict a lot of adults are going to become friends/enemies with their neighbors due to this massive working from home experiment
wide chasm
He doesn't ignore timing screenshots, though.
runs
mortal zinc
@golden gust This one time, I compimented a friend, and she automatically threw it back to me like I'd insulted her without thinking
thing is, people don't take too kindly to compliments for some reason
golden gust
don't ping
mortal zinc
right
pulsar wigeon
that has nothing to do with taking kindly to compliments either
mortal zinc
it's my understanding that not taking compliments is you doing a disservice to yourself
golden gust
also, I'm a brit
wide chasm
@dense island, this isn't the place for looking for people to join your realms.
pulsar wigeon
some people just know how to bring the bantz
golden gust
insulting one another is like, 70+% of convos
mortal zinc
lol
well the thing is i allow compliments because i think that will help me in the long run
golden gust
i just find compliments weird
mortal zinc
it's like, people want to reach a certain bar and until they do, they refuse compliments, am i making sense for everyone else?
stiff yarrow
well the thing is i allow compliments because i think that will help me in the long run
@mortal zinc didn't know you had to ask someones permission before complimenting them
golden gust
But, part of that's why I'm attending mentoring sessions
stiff yarrow
it's like, people want to reach a certain bar and until they do, they refuse compliments, am i making sense for everyone else?
@mortal zinc anecdotal and definitely not the case
mortal zinc
@stiff yarrow i don't need to lol
void void
wide chasm
Well that was a quick ban.
pulsar wigeon
hella yikes there
mortal zinc
not the case? well help me out then, what is the case?
wide chasm
I think he survived almost two whole minutes lol
stiff yarrow
most people accept compliments
pulsar wigeon
oh, did you not catch his message
stiff yarrow
probably varies drastically by culture, language
mortal zinc
idk from my experience people tend to shrug them off, but people do accept them
stiff yarrow
that contradicts your previous argument
wide chasm
Ime people don't really know how to react to them.
mortal zinc
welcome to the human race, we contradict ourselves all the time
stiff yarrow
well you contradicted yourself into agreeing with me so 
mortal zinc
i think i was speaking to the people who shrug off compliments, not that NO ONE accepts compliments
worn ember
Thank you for the life lesson no one asked for ๐
mortal zinc
people don't know what they want
pulsar wigeon
way to generalize
i know exactly what i want
ten million dollars in my investment accounts and a cute anime catgirl waifu
(just kidding of course, everyone knows wolf girls are best waifus)
wide chasm
Why did I think it was a good idea to google that
pulsar wigeon
ten million dollars?
wide chasm
No the wolf girl cat waifu thing
Although, ten million dollars could be scary as well, who knows
mortal zinc
@stiff yarrow my argument was about the people who shrug off compliments, and in my experience that tends to be a lot of people, enough for me to bring this up in the first place ๐
pulsar wigeon
you know what's scary? how unfathomable it is to comprehend the amount of money the superrich have
stiff yarrow
Okamimimi
mortal zinc
well, does knowing what you want mean you will always want it?
wide chasm
No
pulsar wigeon
presumably i'll stop wanting to have it once i have it, but idk if that was supposed to be a philosophical question
wide chasm
mortal zinc
@worn ember just to respond to the lesson no one asked for, I think that's a really condescending way to look at it
pulsar wigeon
good for you
mortal zinc
old stuff
wraith orbit
pastel skiff
what sign shop plugin do people recommend?
void void
I wished I know what timezone that spigot anti malware person is in so I could have an idea how long I would have to wait for support. As it erroring out on my local PC.
waxen scaffold
mortal zinc
sorry if i was a bit harsh earlier wiz, i would never react that way to someone who doesn't know as much as me, so it's a complete opposite tactic, and if it works for you then that's nice, but i try to consider someone's feelings when choosing how to act
do unto others as you would have them do unto you, that's what i try to live by
void void
^indeed and you can't know what one person is going through just by being on the opposite side of the screen as of the other person. A lot of people forgets/don't care to understand that on the Internet. But as soon as it in person they act differently. Probably because people physically seeing them.
ember crag
always assume 24+h response time for help. they're all pretty much volunteers.
wide chasm
If you expect no response, you'll never be disappointed ๐
void void
Yea but this is pretty important to make sure all of the plugins I downloaded are 'clean". Can't just run them and hope for the best right?
wide chasm
Could decompile them and check yourself if you know Java.
ember crag
where did you download them from?
wide chasm
Or run them on a clean test server first and see what happens.
void void
That is true and from SpigotMC and Bukkit Dev. I could but then I would have to pay, wait for the VPS to be provisioned (managed) and fire it up there. As I don't wanna risk my own Linux Mint installation.
ember crag
then make a chroot for testing?
worn ember
Virtual machine?
wide chasm
If the plugin from Bukkit Dev is old (~1 year or older or so), it's very likely clean - they used to scan all files on Bukkit Dev manually.
ember crag
if it gets buggered up, delete and start over
void void
no idea how and yea good thing about BukkkitDev it's pretty darn reliable. SpigotMC however... Yea.
worn ember
Can plugins "escape" the server dir? I suppose they can right?
wide chasm
Yes
void void
Normally if they are ran yes.
wide chasm
They can pretty much do everything, unless an OS or something else is blocking them.
ember crag
when I run a test server it's in a chrooted environment so my production server is undisturbed
but a vm should work just as well
void void
Though now that I think of it Linux Mint DOES use limited users and such so it's not like the plugin got ROOT.
wraith orbit
Anyone have a list of good plugins for every server to have?
wide chasm
If you want FriendlyPerson, feel free to DM me the links of the plugins and I can throw them through a decompiler for you and have a look.
void void
alright cool thanks there. Yea that sucks that websites do that.
limiting the game or spreading the loads across servers.
pallid wedge
void void
How big it exactly anyways?
lament patio
50 should be doable with high end hardware
Mob limiting? Well, the spawn limits configs, FarmLimiter and if that doesn't cut it try something like EntityTrackerFixer
Also, btw, ideally CPUs for Minecraft hosting should have high single core performance
smoky yoke
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void void
SO that's NOT state of art hardware lol. Go for a top shelf Ryzen if you want amped up specs or... A 9900(k) would works if those are not aviable to you (as much as I HATE intel it's hard to find Ryzen solutions)
mortal zinc
i'd be curious to know if a virtual machine setting could be used to screen plugins for maliciousness. Just look at all the criteria to determine if a plugin is malicious and see if you could build a system that could automatically take care of all that criteria
there may need to be some manual inputs for such a thing though
void void
Indeed TotalVirus is a thing but that's doesn't ALSO deal with Minecraft related intrustions and such.
mortal zinc
but if there are parts that could be automated, that might be a good thing
void void
That why AntiMalware was made by that person. So thankfully they just helped me figure out how to do it.
golden gust
somebody has a tool that tries to scan for things like setOp, etc
issue is is that you're more looking for specific code
not behavior
golden gust
would be pretty easy to have something that only trips so often, meaning that a VM type thing wouldn't do shit
void void
pulsar wigeon
ez check:
is it a well known, open source plugin? it's k
no? don't use it. who cares if it's malware or not at that point.
wide chasm
Code specific checks are pretty easy to bypass if you're willing to put in a bit of time to see what such tools are actually looking for, though. Humans checking the code is a far better (although more time consuming) option.
pulsar wigeon
(as an addendum to the first point, if it's not a well known plugin but still open source, check it yourself and build it yourself)
void void
that scanner thingy is open source yes.
pulsar wigeon
talking about the plugins, not the scanner thingy
void void
Oh yea if possible of course. Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet though. Thankfully the premium plugin I am plan buying is indeed open too. Which is a plus in both directions since the dev is still "paid" and the code is visible.
mortal zinc
at work i use a tool that helps to automate business processes (electronic form + workflow), so my work puts me into that mindset, so merely wondering if the process to check for malicious plugins could be automated in part
wide chasm
I could just look at that tool, find out what it checks for, replace my method call with reflection or something else and now it passes as clean.
pulsar wigeon
yeaa
mortal zinc
you could automatically strip away all the code that isn't necessary for commands, and leave yourself with all the relevant code, means you dont have to scan the parts of the plugin that aren't necessary, if that's even feasible
wide chasm
It's definitely nice and better than nothing, but not a replacement for people that check it.
wide chasm
Plugins usually do a lot more than just execute commands.
pulsar wigeon
you think that plugins can't execute malicious code without a command being run?
mortal zinc
well i'm just generalizing. I don't know all the entry points for malicious activity
pulsar wigeon
all of them
you can literally chuck malicious code in your clinit
literally the jvm loading the class executes code
mortal zinc
now this might not be adequate enough, but take all the known entry points that have been used by malicious plugins, and use a tool to strip away everything that doesn't have to do with those entry points, and when a new entry point is discovered, account for that, but that might be problematic in itself as a new entry point would go undetected until people discover it
pulsar wigeon
๐คฆ
wide chasm
Everything can be an entry point, though. Don't forget that I could just grab JNI and then do some weird trickery there to run malicious code.
pulsar wigeon
you're too hung up on "entry points"
mortal zinc
well, if nothing i said makes sense, at least i tried
wide chasm
It's just way too hard to detect this stuff. Besides, even if you could theoretically strip away code that is not invoked from an entry point (which means that there is unreachable code in the plugin, which doesn't happen in any plugin that's semi-competent), you still need to check for malware, which isn't very easy.
void void
Well the tool is keep reasonably up to date at least. Better than having no scanner for sure lol.
mortal zinc
anyone familiar with how bukkit worked with the plugin queue for checking malicious code? did they use a system that kept track of all queue items, with a file browser to view the plugin code?
void void
So unless you pay thousands for an audit every quarter like a "real business" it just isn't going to happen. Even Rack911 doesn't promises any higher than 99.9% "cleanness".
wide chasm
I'd assume they use a queue and just decompile the stuff manually. I know Spigot does it like that for premium plugins.
void void
Indeed there no automation like I think Bukkit does both?
mortal zinc
i wonder how they do that
pulsar wigeon
..decompilers?
void void
They have a lot of rules about obf. and such
If you do it to much they won't let you post it even on premiums.
mortal zinc
i'd just build a tool that for each plugin, decompile it and has a file browser so that i could check the code that way, but since they use a team for that stuff, the tool would have to use a system designed for collaborators
wide chasm
Well Spigot and anything hand-made for their forums usually isn't the case. Anytime something that's even slightly custom for the forums is needed, it's basically a no, so I don't think they would implement such a system that's pretty complicated.
void void
they probably won't more because of the devs not them.
wide chasm
Bukkit may have, but even that I doubt.
void void
since devs often don't like "sharing their code for fears of losing $$$"
pulsar wigeon
curseforge has had systems for this for years
void void
Well that becuase they have the system already in place and paid you outright
mortal zinc
i'm amazed https://dev.bukkit.org/ still exists
pulsar wigeon
that said wow itself sandboxes all the lua that runs, so they don't really do manual code review
wide chasm
dev.bukkit.org is a great plugin hoster, better than Spigot imo.
void void
so you have to agree in order to get your payouts.
Agreed
Where as Spigot people are like "no I would't agree since then I can't sell my plugin" which not true. You CAN sell open source you just gotta get people willing to pay than to self compile.
One way to do that would to only gives support to buyers and not self compilers or something similar.
wide chasm
There are some that do that, but most don't. I just stay away from closed source plugins tbh.
void void
Me too if I can help it.
pulsar wigeon
you can always help it
void void
Yea I think it's becoming a bit more accepted even M$ is doing this for Minecraft minus of course the copyrights and such.
so it's not techcially open source but at least the code is there to see for modders and such.
wide chasm
The mappings are a nice step in the right direction, although the licensing definitely need a change, toehrwise it's just gonna cause more issues long term.
void void
Exactly though it just a hot seller that they unlikely going do this any time soon since they will be "scared" to lose money.
wide chasm
I thought Mini had been talking to DinnerBone or someone to get that license changed, but that's probably gonna take a while if it will ever happen to begin with.
pulsar wigeon
it's in the works
whole jewel
pulsar wigeon
mini talked to helen, the community manager
void void
like to a non commercial type right?
limber knotBOT
imagine usage rights are granted and people start selling jars with actual mojang mappings
glances at mcmarket
void void
can't licenses include or not include commercialization though as part of usages? Hence why there open source for both?
wide chasm
You can throw anything in a license you want, whether it will hold up in a legal process, who knows. But restrictions against selling should be possible afaik, but ianal.
pulsar wigeon
OSI definition says nothing about commercialization
thus saying "open source" doesn't mean anything in that regard
chances are that MC will not be open source nor available source until microsoft is done with it for good
(ie probably never)
we're only discussing the usage rights of the mappings
twin lagoon
speaking of minecraft
void void
Everything like a life span that's what we can all agree on. All games dies eventually. So usage rights will be likely lossen up but not open source?
wide chasm
I don't think the entire game will ever be open source, but who knows.
twin lagoon
speaking of mojang & licensing
wide chasm
There are parts of the game open source, so that's at least something
twin lagoon
i don't think paper would allow a PR that backports 1.16 stuff to 1.15, would they?
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-153904 this is a bit of an issue
twin lagoon
it's a bit of an essential bugfix
it's planned for a snapshot 1.16 release
asked helen about it
void void
does anyone know how to make it where it doesn't say default after the prefix in chat when using essentials
or where I could change it?
pulsar wigeon
All games dies eventually. So usage rights will be likely lossen up but not open source?
what old games do you know became more legally open just because they were old?
just count those and compare that number to all the ones that don't
Ty: you probably should ask in the essentials discord
void void
where is it
I looked for it
Never said they did but I mean they do die period is a fact.
pulsar wigeon
void void
can you link that to me please
twin lagoon
.g moss discord
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twin lagoon
enjoy
pulsar wigeon
.spoon
limber knotBOT
Spoonfeed a newbie for a day and they'll come back with more questions. Teach them to find their own answers and you'll both be better off: you won't get stuck answering the easy questions and they'll be much more productive than before.
mortal zinc
i wonder how much of #bukkitdev (via IRC) was not spoonfeeding
limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
wide chasm
lol
wide chasm
Dumb cat
golden gust
limber knotBOT
ah yes, german memes
fallen eagle
u are a cat not a dog ๐
limber knotBOT
wait, you're not supposed to use sand paper?
golden gust
the image preview thumbnail was bad ๐ฆ
wide chasm
pets cat
limber knotBOT
KennyTV: the best kind :)
worn ember
wide chasm
Saw someone complain about the obfuscation rule changes on Spigot, thought I'd check out his plugins to see if he's using an obfuscator, turns out his resources are Skript lol
pulsar wigeon
skript is basically obfuscated right?
it's reported that 90% of people who tried to read skripts end up dead within 3 days
latent valve
Hand over some script to zizzany
wide chasm
Tbh I never got the easy to read part, since for me it's just harder to read than Java. Although that may be because I'm just not used to Skript.
pulsar wigeon
thatwasajoke
pulsar wigeon
wide chasm
Well that uses text, I have seen worse.
pulsar wigeon
knock yourself out
livid swan
pulsar wigeon
malbolge is a personal favorite
wide chasm
Malbolge is hell, but A0A0 is hell that you can sort of write a program in.
The best one is FiM++. Language based on the TV series My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic that has Java interop.
Yes
There's an interpreter written for it in Scala.
Or a compiler, don't know what it was.
There's also a spec. in Google Docs.
Tbh, one of the most mature esolangs I've seen (other than Brainfuck or Malbolge)
pulsar wigeon
brainfuck
mature
wide chasm
Should write my next plugin in it, since it has Java interop.
worn ember
why is flint and steel called flint and steel if its actually flint and iron 
wide chasm
Well I meant that Brainfuck has quite extensive documentation around it and that there are quite a bit of tools for it.
wide chasm
Yeah, that's what I was looking for.
If the payment for their IDEs is my soul, they can have it.
pulsar wigeon
well, time to go shopping. wish me luck.
limber knotBOT
and he was never seen again
pulsar wigeon
the one thing i don't even need
wide chasm
some say he's still looking for toilet paper to this day
limber knotBOT
went shopping for food, first sing the shoplady said was "we don't have any toilet paper left, sorry"
s/sing/thing
wide chasm
Doesn't matter, I heard toilet paper is the crazy new thing now.
limber knotBOT
Correction, <KennyTV> went shopping for food, first thing the shoplady said was "we don't have any toilet paper left, sorry"
toilet paper is the new gucci merch
lament patio
Apparently Discord can ask you for a photo of your ID and face now if they think you're less than 13
Interesting
forest kestrel
heady spear
intellij dumdum
intellij freezes as soon as I open project, doesn't respond to anything
Intellij EDU works tho <.<
worn ember
kenny, ur upside down
limber knotBOT
no u?
worn ember
pearl ibex
I'm currently thinking about using VSCode instead of IntelliJ.
stiff yarrow
eww
worn ember
i'd replace my brain before its too late
agile tulip
Hi, I have issue with uuid. Somehow server stored old uuid (from server creation period). When I connected this server to waterfall, it has stored old uuid of me, and doesn't let me add my nickname to whitelist. I have offline mode server. I tried removing everything from playerdata etc. How can I manually delete old stored uuid of my nickname?
queen rapids
remove whitelist.json
agile tulip
I did that
Still, server uses my premium uuid, over one that has been remembered on bungee, in plugins such as luckperms
limber knotBOT
kashike lmao
MiniDigger: :D
Saw a similar post, saying to be careful where you buy your flower, unserious ppl might stretch it with cocaine
These corona jokes are amazing
heady spear
This year is a fucking nightmare and itโs not even April yet
limber knotBOT
Hey, April best month
heady spear
First my dad died, then a murder virus flipped the entire world upside down and now everything is fucked up
And now my medication is wrong so Iโm tired all the fucking time. Like Iโm not feeling 2020 so far
limber knotBOT
Sorry to hear that
I know the tiredness thing, it's the worst
But just know, the world and everybody on it will bounce back eventually
Smth smth what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
I learned that last year
heady spear
Idk the entirety of 2020 is like a prolonged nightmare lmao
heady spear
Iโm super worried about my relatives tho, idk if I can handle losing anyone else rn. I should build a box and put them in there until 2022
limber knotBOT
And turn this year into something actually good
heady spear
On the flip side, the climate is improving
twin lagoon
the climate is improving for 6 months
heady spear
Dolphins in Venice as well, thatโs cool
twin lagoon
watch it burn down as soon as the virus is gone
heady spear
I mean itโs probably going to get even worse
limber knotBOT
It's interesting
heady spear
People will need to make up for all lost productivity
limber knotBOT
It shows that humans don't really need all that BS
Makes you reconsider properties
heady spear
People in China could finally see the sky, that must have been nice
olive garden
inb4 reinfection in 3 days
limber knotBOT
and then you hear people in finance talking about.. their finances, as if we didn't have an epidemic right now
worn ember
same tbh
quasi valley
pearl ibex
flint lagoon
pastel skiff
what sign shop plugin do people recommend?
knotty nebula
Can someone recommend a good group chat plugin for 1.15.2?
limber knotBOT
ChestShop (disclaimer: I'm the maintainer of that ;D)
jolly crown
Iโm pretty sure McMMO has a built-in party thing now
pastel skiff
Best plugins thnx
void void
slim falcon
agile tulip
Hey, can anyone help me with two uuid's issue? Somehow server has online, and offline uuid for my premium players [{"name":"Pjo_PL","uuid":"offline-uuid","expiresOn":"2020-04-21 01:21:51 +0200"},{"name":"Pjo_PL","uuid":"ffe4af68-8c1a-4918-8924-470366de5c8d","expiresOn":"2020-04-20 22:32:39 +0200"}]
I just added this server to my waterfall, and I don't know what's the issue
I have multiple servers on this network running fine with one uuid per player
It's for mc 1.15.2
It's my first time on this version
All of my servers are offline mode
for whitelist somehow it uses my online uuid ``` {
"uuid": "ffe4af68-8c1a-4918-8924-470366de5c8d",
"name": "Pjo_PL"
that server is not recognising
So I can't join to this server when it's whitelisted
I've never delt with such an issue. I tried everything, and now Im kinda hopeless
So please help me
golden gust
Do you have non-premium players?
golden gust
Glhf
void void
lol
golden gust
Stupid plugins which handle that mess are known to cause stupid issues
agile tulip
Im using lp
void void
the fix is stop supporting people who dont pay for the game
agile tulip
So I don't think it's stupid
golden gust
Nothing to do with LP
agile tulip
But there is litteraly not one premium server that has more than 100 players
But there are non premium ones with 2-3k players
golden gust
If you go for a janky setup, you endure the pain of walking on the shot foot
agile tulip
In my country
knotty nebula
Can someone recommend a group chat plugin?
agile tulip
Yep xd
void void
yeah
agile tulip
I don't get it
void void
they can afford the fucking game
agile tulip
But that's how it works
knotty nebula
IRC?
void void
get over yourself
agile tulip
I just tried to blend it
So I did that
There is no way of having successfull online mode server in my country
void void
The point is @agile tulip we don't support cracked minecraft.
I'm sorry to hear that
But you can't get help here
We don't support piracy
Please go away
agile tulip
Offline mode is in minecraft for some reason
knotty nebula
No that's a prank Stanley
Took me long enough
twin lagoon
and it's great
void void
Yup, that doesn't mean we support it
twin lagoon
for development purposes etc
knotty nebula
Exactly
latent valve
.g spigot partychat
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/parties-an-advanced-parties-manager.3709/ -- Parties - An advanced parties manager - Spigot: "Synchronize data between different servers in the same network; Dispatch to other servers: broadcasts & party chat. Friendly fire protection."
latent valve
smh there a more lightweight one
agile tulip
So you can't give help on offline mode server? It's like half of all servers
void void
ChatControl
It's premium, but I believe it'll do what you want
has channels and parties
@agile tulip offline mode is not intended for hosting a public server, it's there for development and debug purposes.
the answer is no.
we will not help you.
you can go somewhere else.
latent valve
It's like half of all servers
still it offline server n we dont support piracy
void void
party looks nice
latent valve
tbh 2fa kinda nice if mojang decide to f it up again
void void
i used 2fa for admins on my servers
golden gust
Youdidnt configure your server properly
golden gust
Either you have a stupid plugin breaking stuff, or you didn't configure offline mode properly
void void
i dont run any servers atm and haven't for a while, but when i did i think we did yea
latent valve
ah okie
void void
cat just let him go away in peace, shoot him point blank and walk away like a gangster
golden gust
Either way, we don't care to support such setups, they cause their own set of issues, and if you wanna shoot yourself in the foot with such a setup, that's on you
void void
ur being 2 nice
golden gust
I gotta get me a shotgun
void void
you should see the stupid shit i had to do with fucking project reactor last night
just to check a boolean and fire off a network request
cant use regular control flow, no sir
return repository.existsByAccountId(accountId)
.filter(exists -> exists)
.switchIfEmpty(Mono.error(new ResponseStatusException(HttpStatus.NOT_FOUND, "Profile not found")))
.then(repository.findByAccountId(accountId));
i guess it's not that stupid, but... yikes. i just wanna if (bool) { ok } else { fuck u } not that shit
agile tulip
Could you only tell me if there is anything new in uuid in 1.15.2?
Anything changed since 1.14.4?
pulsar wigeon
offline mode
agile tulip
Yea, but anything in uuid assignment or handling?
golden gust
๐คทโโ๏ธ
cobalt surge
shrug
pulsar wigeon
billy would be extremely disappointed in you, you know
knotty nebula
Best free anti cheat apart from matrix?
latent valve
ncp
austere ivy
what's more clear for a boolean: isNounEnabled or enabledNoun
might be confusing since isNounEnabled would be the name of the getter, but enabledNoun sounds a bit weird.
because Noun sounds a bit weird, here's a more real world example: isFlyEnabled or enabledFly
austere ivy
this is in the context of a player wrapper (uuid stored private final, just holding data, that kind of thing)
that's what I thought, thank you.
cosmic raft
@void void that hurts
can you not do this?
return repository.existsByAccountId(accountId)
.filter(exists -> exists)
.switchIfEmpty(() -> Mono.error(new ResponseStatusException(HttpStatus.NOT_FOUND, "Profile not found")))
.then(() -> repository.findByAccountId(accountId));
is that...not what i did
cosmic raft
() ->
austere ivy
and the getter for enabledFly would be isFlyEnabled over getEnabledFly, correct?
void void
the fuck is the difference if i just pass it or if i pass a lambda
no you can't do that, it doesn't accept a lambda
cosmic raft
your way you always create an error and find by account id, lambda only does it if the supplier is called
that's dumb
void void
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
void void
you telling me even if the error is being called, that my db is being called to find by account id anyway?
it's literally spring webflux
that uses project reactor
cosmic raft
what does findByAccountId return
void void
a Mono<UserProfile>
cosmic raft
is this on github
void void
no
cosmic raft
and what does findByAccountId do inside of it
void void
it's literally just an interface method in a ReactiveMongoRepository provided by spring
idk what it does
it's abstract as hell
void void
Future
cosmic raft
let's just replace boolean with Mono<Boolean> because who cares about sanity
void void
right
cosmic raft
let's also replace all if statements with methods
void void
i was searching for like an hour on how to test that
test as in, test the boolean's value
cosmic raft
.unlessItIsAMondayOrFriday()
.hourIsNot(Mono.of(Hour.of(13)))
.notALeapYear()
i'm waiting for these to become real
if they aren't already
pulsar wigeon
what are you giving for it
void void
wut u want
pulsar wigeon
$550
void void
nah but i owe capital one $1200 and they sent me a letter saying they'll take $546 if i do it before the 29th of march
north pond
void void
but i dont get paid until like the april 4th 
limber knotBOT
don't you have some zero interest loans now that corona is a thing? ๐ค
steel crag
pulsar wigeon
point is you can borrow $546 interest free to pay capital one, and then pay that back apr 4th
pearl ibex
@cosmic raft
pulsar wigeon
good ol "fuck you" pings
void void
wiz, yes, but...
pearl ibex
My man. Wanna hear some shitty music? :>
cosmic raft
sure
void void
Hello everyone! o/
Since is an off-topic argument as specified in the rules in #404345080917262369 I can write it here so I hope to not "hurt" anyone by doing so.
I was looking for a Java Coder for a challenging plugin request, I will be paying 30$ not less not more, who is interested send me a friend request and talk in private.
Thank you.
This is not the place to do paid requests
Also "challenging", "$30"
these two things do not go together
I can't see any proper section dedicated to comission requests.
Please if you tell me where I can post it I would be glad.
Sorry, that's my price.
That's right, we don't do them here in this discord at all
You can go to Spigot's site
They have a forum for it
Don't they have a discord?
no
They don't
I came here actually searching for it.
magic ice
void void
Ok thank you
but they use way superior chat platform
drumroll it's irc
they have IRC and I do believe you can ask in their channel
but here, we don't do commissions
I didn't notice that on Spigot, thank you all.
austere ivy
and the getter for enabledFly would be isFlyEnabled over getEnabledFly, correct?
or isEnabledFly?
ah, I've got it
the getter will be getIsEnabledFly, best of both worlds /s
latent valve
hax human cant fly
austere ivy
kash this is in the context of a
class Player {
private boolean flyEnabled;
public boolean isFlyEnabled() {
return flyEnabled;
}
}
I guess that works, it is nice how is is directly prepended to flyEnabled, however if the player has fly enabled wouldn't you say that they "enabled fly"
or
actually you know what, flyEnabled works perfectly, I'll switch it from enabledFly to that.
void void
brian
stop being in analysis paralysis
just name the fucking var and move on
ok, thx
cosmic raft
@austere ivy yes
class Player {
private boolean flyEnabled;
public boolean flyEnabled() {
return this.flyEnabled;
}
}
celest coyote
mortal zinc
credit score, the karma of credit cards
winged prairie
ionic river
I'm having issues with my server crashing before it even restarts. I can't figure out what the problem is.
void void
You ran out of memory @ionic river
warm owl
story of my life
ionic river
weird. I tried to fix it on the host, but can't figure out how to lol
void void
You lower the heap size to java (Xms/Xmx)
ionic river
thanks
static badge
The good thing about cornavirus is that when a vaccine arrives the anti-vaxxers are gonna get nuked off this planet
fallow peak
[01:04:36 ERROR]: Error authenticating igorlgas with minecraft.net
io.netty.channel.ConnectTimeoutException: connection timed out: sessionserver.mojang.com/99.86.226.169:443
Is this a problem with mojang?
ionic river
That sucks. CubedHost doesn't allow me to manipulate the run.bat at all
void void
If they don't let you modify the ram, but are running out of ram themselves
That is a bad sign and means you need to move hosts
Big time
mortal zinc
if you guys have 3+ hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMCKbngDp8s
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Flat Earth Debate | Nathan Thompson & FTFE - length 3h 27m 36s - 379 likes, 35 dislikes (91.5%) - 4,130 views - Modern-Day Debate on 2020.03.05
mortal zinc
i'm amazed at the amount of denial one has to have in order to believe in flat earth
warm owl
it makes you wonder, are these people actually convinced the world is flat or are they like the ultimate trolls?!?!
fallow peak
[01:04:36 ERROR]: Error authenticating igorlgas with minecraft.net
io.netty.channel.ConnectTimeoutException: connection timed out: sessionserver.mojang.com/99.86.226.169:443
it was a ddos attack
fiery apex
tacit spruce
vestal jasper
fiery apex
Uh, Is it possible to play paparmc multiplayer?
void void
that's literally what it's for?
vestal jasper
so is that a yes? @void void
void void
YES
vestal jasper
Nice job retard
vestal jasper
Ok
Furry Fanfic character
vestal jasper
Theyre a fan of furries
Idk fuck you
You'd know about fanfics wouldn't you
Fucking furry
static badge
ur the one talking about fanfics furry
ember crag
Well, it's official. Laid off until the 2nd.
Likely longer, but that's the official number now.
void void
gray cloak
ember crag
But my monsters will be glad we're home.
ancient bolt
so you went from cancerous leaves to viral leaves
static badge
obtuse shuttle
mortal zinc
leaf i feel like if i insult you in jest, even if it was warranted, then i'd still end up losing IQ points
static badge
you can't lose IQ points
mortal zinc
why not
static badge
can't go negative can you
cosmic raft
@void void dance! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH47vqGy6xA
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) ะกะบััะฐะตัั, ะฐะนะฝะฐะปะฐะนัะฝ - length 2m 39s - 68 likes, 1 dislike (98.6%) - 2,820 views - Bonapart - Topic on 2020.03.04
void void
there is literally no sound to this
cosmic raft
playing from discord
cosmic raft
^_^
rocky holly
haughty vale
void void
any1 know NBTexplorer?
zealous knot
I hope you're not expecting any1 to answer
void void
found a solution online anyway
wow
amazing
its like the internet has answers to most questions
crazy stuff
woven otter
wow what?
void void
wow
woven otter
that sounds impossible
zealous knot
simple fucking sucks lmao
void void
why u being mean 2 me
heady spear
I've spent like 10h trying to get my player NPCs to walk in 1.15, they just refuse to lol
all other npc types are walking just fine, and player head movement works
they just don't.... walk <.<
heady spear
this shit has been working since 1.12, why would it break now
void void
are a noob
heady spear
go get your thyroid checked
heady spear
maybe you'll be nicer when it's working
zealous knot
city look into NCP, that shit gave me aids too when i was working with NPCs
the default anti cheat shit also randomly autistifies NPCs
rubber bands them or prevents them from moving
void void
did you just create a verb that means to make something autistic
heady spear
I've disabled move and teleportation events for NPCs so they wouldn't trigger anything
heady spear
I don't even use NCP .-.
zealous knot
just fucking disable all anticheat you retarded cock engulfer
heady spear
Also, they're all constantly pathfinding, just not moving. 1.15 probably changed something dumb
I DON'T USE ANTICHEAT
zealous knot
BUT YOU JUST SAID YOU DISABLED NCP EVENT SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE U ON ABOUT
static badge
not using an anticheat
do you know what kinds of cancer you can achieve with just a door
you have no idea
zealous knot
enlighten me pls
heady spear
I even tried using spigot instead of tuinity, so I can't even blame leafy
I mean it's probably his fault either way
but now it's harder to justify blaming him
zealous knot
what the fuck is tuinity
heady spear
fuck my toe
this is annoying
ima just study instead
or go buy 500 rolls of toilet paper
latent valve
yes
olive garden
what does that matter?
woven otter
Atlas 
latent valve
ooof
they just add back permission for jesus yesterday
๐ฅณ it been gone for so long
heady spear
wtf they're trying to track down the people infected with corona at afterski, because the ski resorts refuse to close. They be like "We won't close until they tell us to. Doctors in the area have asked us to close, but it's their job to track down the infected people, we are not responsible for this". Didn't we learn anything from italy wtf
this is how we got corona into Sweden in the first place
woven otter
bye bye Sweden
void void
yea
apparently on 2/5th of americans are actually staying home as asked
the other 3/5 are not changing their schedules whatsoever, continuing to go out in public
heady spear
I'm moving to denmark
heady spear
A Swedish influencer basically told her followers to come join her at an after work
so like 200 people gathered "in protest of corona"
void void
what the fuck
heady spear
yeah because the fucking virus is going to care about your protest
void void
static badge
fake news
heady spear
I hope she gets it
static badge
link or fake
zealous knot
the hairdresser near my house got a $15,000 fine for staying open 
void void
.g swedish protester coronavirus protest covid-19
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/11/21174674/greta-thunberg-coronavirus-climate-change-protests-online-covid19 -- Greta Thunberg urges climate protests to move online...: "Mar 11, 2020 ... Activist Greta Thunberg urged protesters to listen to experts who recommend that people avoid big public gatherings amid novel..."
zealous knot
ol' greta
static badge
greta
heady spear
i no find link, i might look later
zealous knot
void void
wait, are they actually that clear though?
static badge
what a good ps
void void
holy shit they are clear now
they're clear since covid-19 bc nobody is using them viper
it's been reported on the news
and places in china where the smog is usually so bad that the sky is just grey
the sky is blue again
woven otter
zealous knot
honestly this meme is like one of the most elaborate to come out of this fucking virus lmfao
how does one even think about doing this
heady spear
I honestly believe corona is fake, someone just made it up to save the environment
woven otter
corona actually helping the environment lel
heady spear
ima go be super social rn
zealous knot
@heady spear said every boomer ever
heady spear
our prime minister told people to buy take away to save local businesses
bitch everyone got fired, no one can afford food
zealous knot
Here they shut down everything but supermarkets and local food product stores, so while everyone is is anti socially sitting at home, i can't enjoy that experience because i work at a local food store 
heady spear
cough at people and you won't need to work for long
zealous knot
- risk getting corona
heady spear
ItS jUsT a CoLD
latent valve
Cough cough cough
heady spear
yOu aRe YoUnG
zealous knot
honestly i probably have it by now just not developing symptoms
zealous knot
you need a therapist
woven otter
city needs a dick
zealous knot
aren't you from italy?
void void
yea he's in the danger zone
heady spear
rip
heady spear
when all italians are dead, can we use the land for something useful?
void void
do you partake in the quarantine concerts viper
zealous knot
on a regular day i dont even get 3 hours 
Why doesn't italy use those massive planes they use to extinguish wildfires to dump disinfectant on entire regions
grizzled vortex
i bet you 10 bob and a pinch of goat shit you hold the stakes in your mouth that my server is better than yours
same
10 bob and a pinch of goat shit is the stake of bet
void void
how about
we dont give a fuck about your server, it's probably trash
and your mom is a hoe
grizzled vortex
better than yours
void void
fuck off
grizzled vortex
i'll get the mods to ban you
void void
ok
left yacht
do I win a prize?
21.03 06:44:45 [Server] INFO Data purge successful.
21.03 06:44:45 [Server] INFO 1,081,533,379 row(s) of data deleted.
wait
left yacht
Pretty surprised it didn't crash if I'm going to be honest
left yacht
yes
void void
FUCKING TRASH
gaunt aurora
how much RAM is needed for 20 players? Server 1.15.2
left yacht
it's our 500+ player factions server. Purge it once a month to ensure it doesn't become 300+GB. It literally took 8 hours to purge that much data.
void void
left yacht
3800X machine with 960GB nvme drives.
zealous knot
bruh
left yacht
it did it though, usually it crashes.
void void
i lold
left yacht
dude 160GB databases are a meme
void void
latent valve
database for peasant just use txt file to store all data
latent valve
what even in that? u store map on db? xD
left yacht
coreprotect in mysql
latent valve
left yacht
5 billion rows in total on this server
sometimes @still smelt
sometimes I just purge it directly on mysql
twin lagoon
and i thought my 51GB dynmap was big
left yacht
depends on how I feel
twin lagoon
throw it in mysql lmao
left yacht
it's not as crazy as coreprotect
twin lagoon
if it works it works
left yacht
you'll hate towny then
void void
i mean, the actual file ext doesnt matter... it's the format of the text inside
a yml file is just a text file, in a specific format
you can definitely write in a specific format in a .txt and read it in a specific format from your code
the file ext is not important
i promise you, it's not
it is kinda weird but who knows
sure
why not?