https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/15/error/170._TTD_.jpg this one's got a derpface going
#general
pulsar wigeon
upper flicker
amazon uses doggo slaves
millions of doggos pulling little carts around warehouses
end the suffering
limber knotBOT
I mean why not
fallen oracle
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
void void
cosmic raft
its not like they can't afford it
limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
hm?
cosmic raft
grumbles
cosmic raft
glad I don't have anything in .com other than the one I just manage for a friend
he pays :p
limber knotBOT
I just cancelled all my domains and bought a .com the other week
just have my good old eu domains
So my renewal price will just be higher than normal?
limber knotBOT
I also wonder
void void
he also wonder
woven otter
you should do drugs
limber knotBOT
you should burn a duck
shell vine
left swift
maybe eat a delicious burger
woven otter
you should put kenny right side up
heady spear
I wanna eat phanaticd
limber knotBOT
noone should do that
olive garden
this is getting out of hand
heady spear
sorry, I meant phanatic's d
woven otter
No you just want to eat the D part
left swift
sounds high in transfat and sodium to me
shell vine
left swift
burger would be better
woven otter
well see? I was right
heady spear
no
void void
very many homo
woven otter
you're straight as a curve
void void
LOL
heady spear
homos r gay
limber knotBOT
so r u
left swift
get anti socks
heady spear
no
shell vine
true
woven otter
u love d's
woven otter
wat
pulsar wigeon
straight as x^3
woven otter
straight as wiz
limber knotBOT
:aaa:
woven otter
we support you tho
limber knotBOT
we support the supreme overlord
pulsar wigeon
who dat
woven otter
supreme scrub
woven otter
too late
heady spear
by*** 😦
woven otter
ok boomer
shell vine
worse then being ducksexual
shell vine
anyone else watching this galaxy launch event thingy
woven otter
#justiceformagma
pulsar wigeon
i keep planning to unban him and then forgetting
stiff yarrow
did someone say 
heady spear
community wrecker 💔
olive garden
is magma the guy who humps everyone?
pulsar wigeon
also there's a distinct possibility that i unban him and he just comes back and says something rapey again cuz he thinks it's funny
limber knotBOT
magma just wanted to have wiz for valentine's day
shell vine
limber knotBOT
like, really hard
stiff yarrow
someone invent an equally cute meme worthy cartoon frog
olive garden
are you the guy whose girlfriend finds pepe emotes racist?
woven otter
stop the censoring 
shell vine
LOL
olive garden
2nd degree connections are a bitch
stiff yarrow
shes got a lot of hyper SJW LGBTAQ++++ friends
pulsar wigeon
imagine caring about other people's feelings :^)
woven otter
there
stiff yarrow
I spent 1 hour trying to convince her pepe was fine before I caved, should've gave a harder fight
olive garden
pin
woven otter
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ REKT to the Future
heady spear
last time I pinged him he blocked me then talked about having me blocked for ages
woven otter
wiz is lonely
pulsar wigeon
yea now i can just kick you
shell vine
❄️
limber knotBOT
very thonky
heady spear
nossr is more likeable than ever
stiff yarrow
thanks 
heady spear
if it wasn't for that mcmmo stuff
stiff yarrow
I only work on Always Sunny in Minecraft now
shell vine
not using pepe -1
stiff yarrow
hes pretty handsome I won't lie
heady spear
bro you're at 63 downloads now
woven otter
he's pretty gay too
pulsar wigeon
being bi is only partially gay
shell vine
so ur saying it can go out 
pulsar wigeon
ngl
heady spear
being gay isn't like edgy anymore so I don't like it
stiff yarrow
bisexual is the best sexuality
pulsar wigeon
olive garden
who wouldn't?
limber knotBOT
being z is pretty tacosexual ngl
heady spear
anyway so @woven otter we should light some candles for our fallen hero
woven otter
I changed my avatar for him
heady spear
on the flipside tho, he has finally started DMing me and he accepted my friend request
stiff yarrow
that reminds me this bar near a dance venue I go to has amazing tacos for 3 dollars
limber knotBOT
light some candles to make it more romantic
woven otter
I think everyone should do it too
pulsar wigeon
imagine not using compact mode
woven otter
imagine being an irc nerd
heady spear
I mean it runs in the family so who's to say I'm not borderline myself? 🤔
limber knotBOT
imagine being a duck
woven otter
imagine being upsidedown guy with glasses
limber knotBOT
tho on discord I don't have irc mode enabled 😂
pulsar wigeon
imagine being 🙃
limber knotBOT
yes that's very awesome
woven otter
limber knotBOT
unlike you casuals
heady spear
oooo so we found out my dad had money saved up, but then we also found out he's in debt, so our total inheritance turned out to be a photo album and an empty thing of whisky
limber knotBOT
filthy. casuals.
heady spear
I'm truly blessed
shell vine
stiff yarrow
imagine having inheritance
woven otter
that's always nice
heady spear
At least we didn't have to pay for the funeral arrangements
but now they won't tell us where they're putting him
which is like kinda weird? but okay, I guess
limber knotBOT
oO why
olive garden
could be a win-win for some
heady spear
so the state is paying for the funeral arrangements as he didn't have money and neither my brother nor I have enough to pay for it, but then they're doing this thing where they're putting his ashes in a collective place thingymabob
but a part of the deal is that you don't know exactly where. Like, you know which graveyard, but not where within it
and then they send you a letter <.<
heady spear
I'm hella freaked out by burials in general
tropic flame
seeing someone getting buried is... idk
that final moment of "aight... it's over... they're gone"
heady spear
I guess it's some sort of closure for some people, it's just idk... more miserable?
stiff yarrow
I thought seeing the dead body was that final moment
granted I've only seen one dead body in my life (that I'm aware of 🤡 )
heady spear
I haven't seen my dad since he passed, and I don't wanna be a part of any ceremonies or whatever. Not that we're having any, because he didn't want that
last time I saw him, which was like half a year ago, he wasn't nearly as sick as he was in the end and uh, I'd kinda like to hold onto that image of him
stiff yarrow
sorry for your loss 😢
heady spear
Thanks mate
lel look at me bitching in the paper discord once again. Whatever, you'll have to deal 😛
stiff yarrow
its okay I'm on drugs now that make me less of a meanie head
👼
also recently traumatized so maybe that has an effect 
heady spear
lel I have a fever and I'm mildly delusional
limber knotBOT
lel
heady spear
that doesn't sound very nice
Kenny I'm quirky let me be
I'm not like the other girls
stiff yarrow
I've been going to support groups and that helps 
limber knotBOT
that's what they all say, pf
static badge
You're not a girl
tropic flame
nossr, idk how it is at your place but at least here they give you like a day to see the body, and then the next day is the funeral
heady spear
so I'm definitely not like the other girls
heady spear
I don't really have a problem with death in general, and morbid shit doesn't bother me. I was at his place and cleaned up blood after they removed his body
but like, idk, casket funerals are so strange to me. It's this weird thing of trying to pretend that death is all peaceful and whatnot. I've been to a couple of funerals, and they've always made be feel far worse
limber knotBOT
I only was at one funeral, and that was lead by some religious church person in the most unsympathatic religious gibberish humanly possible
so I couldn't even really mourn there
brave bluff
cloud slate
dusky magnet
How to get rid of permanent lags on 1.15 😦
latent valve
pray
dusky magnet
Eh
topaz mortar
Update to 1.15.2 and either add entityTracker Fixer or look how to configure the stuff what ETF does as well.
quasi valley
woa that’s woke
upper flicker
yeah
they're just gonna be some bored ass cores
we can take all the thread limits off of pools and stuff and let them use 5000
doesnt mean those cores or the scheduler will actually be doing anything
but sure, theyre assigned 
pulsar wigeon
have network threads cpu-wait instead of io-wait
they'll be busy cores after that
:^)
void void
sonic creek
upper flicker
What in the fuck
green turret
Sing it to the tune of "we built this city"
void void
Z, don't you concur?
dapper nacelle
what should I use for making a REST API these days
void void
whatever you want?
green turret
Dropwizard
green turret
Stop it
dapper nacelle
void void
stop spamming IRC jesus
green turret
Swagger is for documentation
void void
swagger is aight
dapper nacelle
for some reason my ctrl + c doesn't work half of the time
dapper nacelle
I see so swagger is for documentation
green turret
I don't want him, you take him
dapper nacelle
Symfony has an API bundle
void void
i mean it helps you make sexy apis that are consistently formatted and named
but it aint something that you implement your api with
notice i said helps
not makes
because if you're a retard, you can still fuck it up
topaz mortar
With spring boot you can easily generate swagger documentation.
dapper nacelle
with Symfony too
void void
fuck php
void void
if you want to make a php rest api, see yourself out and go to codevision or something 
golden gust
Spring is love, Spring is life, how does simple, have hopes of a wife
void void
cuz she liek me
dapper nacelle
ah yes
void void
and my hot bod
golden gust
kek
green turret
If you hate Spring but like Jersey and Jetty, Dropwizard is awesome. Ratpack if you want Netty, Quarkus if you want hip, ktor if you want Kotlin + hip.
topaz mortar
Where is Mini when we need spring boot love.
dapper nacelle
the thing is
with Symfony I can set up the whole REST api withing 2 hours
if I knew how it all worked
void void
with spring boot you can do it in 3 minutes
annotate @RestController
make a method
annotate @GetRequest
done
lul
green turret
Or even less typing with Dropwizard!
void void
.g dropwizard
limber knotBOT
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green turret
And even even even less with Quarkus
dapper nacelle
in symfony you make an entity class, use some ORM annotations and put @ApiResource above it and its done
including swagger
topaz mortar
And using spring initializer.
dapper nacelle
and you can create the full entity class via the cli
green turret
But why are you asking if you have already decided?
void void
does dropwizard have built in support for creating discoverable microservices?
if so, i may check it out
(preferably to netflix eureka)
small field
whats a recommended java decompiler
topaz mortar
Fernflower
golden gust
procyon (luyton GUI), fernflower
topaz mortar
CFR
green turret
Dropwizard just wraps Jetty, Jersey, Jackson. It predates Spring Boot, I think.
small field
ty!
void void
o ok
eh im sure i can find a eureka discovery client impl that i could include and boom it'd be done
dapper nacelle
not having to recompile your code with php is an advantage to java
void void
ok dylan
why dont you just go off to php land you weirdo
shush
we're having adult discussions
dapper nacelle
I am already in php land
green turret
Spring Boot is basically the Spring folks going "our notoriously bloated piece of crap needs a 'lite' edition so people will use it".
void void
ok, well shush
dapper nacelle
I am enjoying it quite a lot
void void
ok
bye
eh mule, i quite like its "it just works" feel
but i've not tried the others
sooo, can't comment
dapper nacelle
oK lEtS mAkE tHe BaCk EnD iN eXpReSs
green turret
I think Dropwizard is very similar to Spring Boot.
void void
express is completely valid, dylan. please stop talking about shit you have NO FUCKING IDEA about
thank you
green turret
It's Koa now Dylan. Express is so last decade.
void void
every time you come in here, you lower this channels IQ into the negatives
green turret
You seriously like PHP?
void void
mule you havent been here to experience dylan.
dapper nacelle
php version 7.4 is clean
green turret
Isn't it Laravel now anyway?
void void
he had like 80 enum singletons for his spells.
golden gust
php ain't my prefered language
void void
in his stupid magic plugin
dapper nacelle
I do't
void void
send nudes cat
golden gust
walks off shuddering about php
void void
i've been traumatized with having to work with WordPress, creating small Rest APIs for each feature as a WordPress plugin.
it was absolutely fucking nightmarish
void void
stop sending your stupid php in here, we literally don't care. if you wanted to share the repo just send the repo link, we dont need individual fucking files. thanks.
dapper nacelle
no u
void void
im not even kidding, you borderline spam
send wrong thing twice, delete, send right thing, dump links
like, stop
green turret
What are some reasons you would choose PHP over the JVM or NodeJS? Like, I stick with the JVM if I'm making medium+ size services because the tooling is second to none and static types make things rigid where they need to be. NodeJS gives me the "up and go" velocity the JVM can't provide. Where does PHP fit in?
dapper nacelle
well I removed it, didn't I
dapper nacelle
I don't think IRC is relevant
void void
It is
dapper nacelle
I don't care
dapper nacelle
dapper nacelle
php fits in if all your pages are rendered backend
green turret
Wtf*
void void
mule you will very soon find out he has no idea what he's talking about in any actual capacity
he just knows the syntax, and that at a very small level
dapper nacelle
I know the syntax pretty decent imo
green turret
Server side rendering? Literally any web framework has that.
dapper nacelle
PHP has some typesafety, which is why I prefer it over JavaScript, but then you could argue that there is typescript
topaz mortar
Java Spring vs. PHP
Ist Like a
Sports car vs. a Tractor
dapper nacelle
well, not everything is staticly typed
so you can just enforce it where you need it
green turret
So you just want it sometimes?
dapper nacelle
it depends on what you are doing
green turret
Do you work on code with other people?
dapper nacelle
yes
green turret
How does that "optionally strong types" work in a team for you?
void void
dapper nacelle
when you can you should typehint
green turret
Because I've never seen it go anywhere but straight to "Any" spam.
topaz mortar
Dylan you're windows user? Backslash 🤮
dapper nacelle
yes I am
green turret
Dylan is your preference solely based on familiarity?
Not that there's anything wrong with that per se.
green turret
Yeah, just stick with that explanation then :P
dapper nacelle
I did watch a 2h tutorial on spring and it looked alright
topaz mortar
You sometimes want a dirty hack around?
dapper nacelle
^
limber knotBOT
nothing wrong with PHP
green turret
Familiarity is definitely one of the strongest arguments for choice of technology, especially in teams. There's nothing wrong with "everyone knows this tool, that's why we use it".
dapper nacelle
I was thought how to use Symfony at school because it appeared in more companies (in our region) then Spring
same reason why we were thought how to use Vue instead of some other frontend framework
green turret
There's something wrong with it if you make things needlessly difficult to the point where you're stagnating. Most people would probably not write a web server in Assembly, and most people probably don't write embedded software in JavaScript.
dapper nacelle
From what I understood Assembly is a frontend language, right?
limber knotBOT
lol
void void
green turret
But if PHP floats your boat, then row on. But why did you ask your initial question then?
limber knotBOT
you could probably use it for that, but I wouldn't really recommend it. Assembly is one of the most difficult languages to work with
dapper nacelle
all I heard about it that it could potentially replace javascript because its faster but its still too young
void void
there are multiple assembly languages, depending on the processor and its ISA, granted they share common opcodes
but still
green turret
That's WebAssembly
dapper nacelle
sAmE tHiNg
limber knotBOT
its not the same thing o.O
green turret
Definitely not
void void
lol
green turret
Assembly is to WebAssembly what car is to carpet.
dapper nacelle
ham to a hamster
dapper nacelle
maybe there were better solutions for Symfony
or maybe some new fancy thing that is easy to get in to
green turret
What kind of answer would make you ditch your current choice?
limber knotBOT
there is many software out there, that could replace Javascript. Only reason javascript is popular is because browsers made it popular unfortunately. Would be nice to have a universal alternative to javascript other then flash of course as that is another terrible one
green turret
You're already sitting in PHP with a boner for Symfony. Anything is "fancier" and "easier to get into" than that :P
dapper nacelle
I am not sure, I probably would want it to be simpler to set up then what I'd use otherwise and I would have to be familiar with the language
green turret
We could have had Dart now if Microsoft hadn't gone "NO, TYPESCRIPT" at Google.
limber knotBOT
even though you keep saying simpler that is still a vague statement. PHP is easy but can also be difficult. Really depends on what you are doing. Could use perl, ruby or python if you want to set something up quick and easy that doesn't require too much from the backend
all three of those are easy to learn too
green turret
And now everyone is stuck with bloated tool chains transpiling new language features to ES3 obscurity so IE6 doesn't get left in the muck.
green turret
I worked for a company where one of the clients had employees carry around two laptops. One for Win10 and one for WinXP. The XP laptop was for two very specific programs they had a company develop for them a decade ago that relied on some security vulnerability that was removed in XP SP2, and they could not get the budget to have it rewritten.
green turret
Yeah no dice
limber knotBOT
relies on a security vulnerability that is crazy lol
green turret
These computers were set and forget stuff. No one could set up a new computer or a VM and get them to work. When one laptop died, that was one fewer capable machines.
void void
REST is stateless. You shouldn't be using cookies in a REST environment.
dapper nacelle
well
void void
Frontend, different story.
green turret
That's why people care about IE6. Because sometimes that's the only browser they're allowed to use. However stupid that is. It's horrible :(
dapper nacelle
what if I wanted a part of my api to require you to be authenticated and authorized
void void
you use an api token.
limber knotBOT
Well, I can't imagine the software that is for xp being all the difficult to re-write
green turret
JWT
green turret
frostalf difficulty and budget are two different things. The budget required to rewrite the software was around 4m, and this government... department?... was only given 2m every year. Whatever they didn't use was "dropped".
limber knotBOT
4m to re-write a small application XD
dapper nacelle
I was running my backend and frontend server on the same network, different ports tho
green turret
It was not small.
limber knotBOT
that means its time to outsource and not go with a contract
green turret
Government stuff is very, very different from the private sector.
limber knotBOT
I am aware
and not all projects require bidding nor are they required to go with the lowest bidder either
green turret
I kept asking my then boss why we couldn't just do X or Y and he just kept saying "this is not a novel thought, but here's why it can't work that way". I felt pretty shitty at the end of it.
dapper nacelle
I never worked with API tokens before, from what I read I was getting that its stored in the database and you query for the user by that token. The client is responsible for clearing that token out. Does this mean if your token gets leaked you're screwed? or does the backend erase the token after x amount of time from the database
limber knotBOT
in either case, I highly doubt they need that large of a budget to re-write this xp program so whoever they have that is estimating the cost probably needs to go do more research or replaced
void void
dylan. stateless.
JWT, you put shit in it, sign with private key, send it to the user. they keep it, they send it back to the api on every request, api checks the signature. good? yay. then it checks the expiration, good? yay.
dapper nacelle
so clientside has full responsibility
green turret
It's not "an xp program" :P
void void
client has to send it.
limber knotBOT
you said it runs on xp
void void
client should NEVER unwrap it or even know how to unwrap it
limber knotBOT
so its a program from win 98 or 95? lol
if so then its even more simple to re-write lol
dapper nacelle
is this private key unique per client?
void void
no
you have 1 private key in your backend
when you make a jwt for a user, you sign it
send it down, signed
client gets it and just saves it. that's it.
they send it back, client reads the sig and makes sure it's valid
if all good, request continues; otherwise stop processing
void void
there is no public key in this case
green turret
It was a gigantic spaghetti system and the XP laptops were just one of the elements of it. Ever heard of "fex scripts"? I hadn't. There were 5m lines of undocumented scripts as part of this ridiculous semi-event based architecture. We had one guy wake up at 5 every Wednesday to run a script right after another one that ran automatically, take some output files and mail them to someone, print two copies and sign both, then snail mail one copy to another department. And I tried to come up with ways to automate and cut down. Client said "no, it's important that we don't change the process because doing so requires approval all the way from the top and they won't approve because it works fine now", boss said "they pay us to do it, so whatever" and my colleague said "I'm up at 5 anyway, so I don't mind". Didn't work there very long.
void void
but yes, the token can be shared. if people do that, they're screwed
as then someone can use their session
thats kinda how the roblox thing works lmao. you can copy your roblox token and have full access to someone else's acc, it's cute
golden gust
With JWT, there is a pub key
dapper nacelle
with you sign it you mean that you send your token along?
green turret
(the person who wrote the scripts worked for the client 3 years prior and now had a (sweet) deal where we could contact her about it a couple of hours every week for a hefty fee)
void void
not with symmetric jwt cat
dapper nacelle
public key is for encrypting and private key for decrypting, right?
limber knotBOT
@green turret I would disagree with the part that they wouldn't approve it and if they decide to not approve it could just report it to the treasury and then they would have to answer why they won't bother with it if it cuts on costs
just fyi ;)
green turret
Yeah that's not how it works :P
limber knotBOT
but, they would cut the cost on their budget to fix their software if they just straight hired 2-3 devs though
In government there is always someone who over sees the money part
doesn't matter what department
green turret
Sure
limber knotBOT
its called wasteful spending and there is an entire department for it that out ranks most other government departments lol
green turret
Well, 4m to fix something that works is a lot.
limber knotBOT
unless you can show it doesn't cost 4m
golden gust
Oh, you don't have to use asymettric keys, it's just generally common to afaik
limber knotBOT
which I highly doubt it does
golden gust
especially in cases where you want the client to be able to verify its own token and stuff
green turret
It does.
limber knotBOT
and what calculation are using to determine that? o.O
IE, where are you drawing your numbers from lol
green turret
Does it matter?
void void
yea cat, i used symmetric first until i discovered it has asymmetric so i switched
but symmetric is just signed with a nice long key
dapper nacelle
wait but doesn't the client have to have the key too?
dapper nacelle
how can it encrypt anything then
golden gust
only if you want the client to be able to validate the key
void void
you are not encrypting anything.
golden gust
It's not encrypted, it's signed
dapper nacelle
so you send plain text to the server
golden gust
header.contents.sig
void void
client should not really need or want to validate the key, it should just implicitly trust that the server has given them a valid key which they should send with further requests
but yes, you can
dapper nacelle
but if anyone intercepts the key
void void
this is why we use SSL
limber knotBOT
I think you are confusing connections with content
void void
as for users going into their cookies and ripping the token out and sharing it...
cant stop that.
just tell them not to be retarded
limber knotBOT
the connection can be encrypted while content is just plain
dapper nacelle
when you are connected via https is it automatically encrypted
limber knotBOT
usually just need the servers public key from the certificate to encrypt the connection
golden gust
the contents of packets are encrtpyed
The actual contents outside the encrtpyion layer are just plain
https just adds an extra layer around the http connection for security, past that layer, it's all plaintext in the tunnel
void void
the important bit there is that if someone was sniffing, they'd just see garbled text that they could do nothing with
dapper nacelle
developing the project I had in mind from start to end would require a shit ton of knowledge I don't have at the moment
you basically have to be the entire IT department
limber knotBOT
really depends on how the sniffing is done, Garak
you can easily sniff SSL traffic if the certificate isn't pinned and the user doesn't notice the certificate being wrong
void void
im far from a security expert, im just speaking in a generic sense. yes im sure there is some blackhat ass shit you can o
dapper nacelle
I don't even know where to begin with my web application
backend first or frontend
limber knotBOT
whatever you feel like doing? xD
rocky citrus
limber knotBOT
in most cases, both should be independent of each other
void void
oh god.
limber knotBOT
however, generally it is easier to create the backend since you don't have to worry about any GUI's
dapper nacelle
I thought it made the methods for the frontend to interact with the backend
dapper nacelle
I am aware
but it will save me a lot of time frontend
if I can get it to work
😂
celest coyote
writing an api is like 10x harder than consuming it
green turret
600k in dollars it seems, frostalf. But the whole thing had been going back and forth for years. Every year they would complain about the system and how much they were spending on it, time and money, and every year they'd get several quotes from several companies (they put up the job and companies bid on it), and it was never less than that. These departments don't have in-house developers for these things, because it's always "lots of work very quickly" - consultants. The company I worked for built this super simple queue system for when tax returns come in, and they were so proud of it. $250k budget, went over by 50k, and that was apparently pretty good. For a system that puts you in a queue to access a website.
limber knotBOT
well, I wasn't too far off on my estimate lol
limber knotBOT
So, in reality the most the budget needs for the upgrade is no more then $1m lol
that is still far less then 4m
green turret
Yeah it's 4m DKK :P
limber knotBOT
Ah
dapper nacelle
gn people
green turret
I don't think you'd want to work on that stuff. I mean it was such a clusterfuck of random servers running random scripts in this weird language, and no one really knew what was going on. Just "at this time every Wednesday this and this has to happen" and "we no longer have the source code for this stuff".
void void
wtf. someone help me with basic calculus plz
lim x->4 (x^2-7x+12)/(x-4) => lim x->4 ((x-4)(x-3))/(x-4) => lim x->4 (x-4)/0
so then i analyze the sign, it goes to neg infinity from the left and pos infinity from the right.
so the limit does not exist. no?
but apparently not
according to WA the limit is 1
.wa lim x->4 (x^2-7x+12)/(x-4)
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Limit: lim_(x->4) (x^2 - 7 x + 12)/(x - 4) = 1 - https://is.gd/wbFr2F
green turret
My boss kept saying "oh yes, this would be a good fit for Microsoft Dynamics" or "we could use SharePoint for this", trying to sell them some tacked on solutions. They just said "yyyyeah, we still can't get the budget approved..."
But in my current job I don't have that problem because all the legacy code is written by me, ohohohoh
Calculus is my cue for bed time I think. Good luck with the limits simple.
scenic roost
you got ((x-4)(x-3))/(x-4), the (x-4)'s cancel out leaving you with (x-3)
desert siren
ehm anyone can help me to compile a plugin from the github source code?
void void
sure for $20
desert siren
-.-
void void
WAHHH I WANT FREE THINGS, JUST HELP. U GET NOTHING, JUST HELP.
desert siren
yes i want free things
upper flicker
if it has a gradlew file in it, clone the repo and run ./gradlew build
void void
no stop Z
upper flicker
if it has a pom.xml file in it, clone the repo and run mvn package
void void
Z this is was my cash out opportunity
upper flicker
if it has neither, its probably dependent on being built in the eclipse ide
desert siren
lol
upper flicker
and you should skip it
desert siren
i'm triying to build in eclipse but when i try to export the project it says no projects found -.-
can i link the repo?
void void
upper flicker
uh sure
usually its just a matter of putting the right things in the output artifact
but I havent used eclipse in years at this point so
desert siren
This is the repo, is a fork of the original plugin and it's fixed (i hope)
https://github.com/MrEminent42/QuickSell
but no pom file in there
desert siren
lol
void void
you realize the one that the original plugin that the one you linked is a fork of, is actually more updated than the one you linked
and has a pom
i cant type coherently.
desert siren
the original has a pom. so...
void void
this is the original, and it's more updated
and has a pom.
that's what i was trying to say
desert siren
this is the original
void void
that's correct...
desert siren
oh interesting
void void
the one you linked hasnt been touched in 2 years whereas the original was updated 8 months ago
desert siren
yeah you're right, sorry
void void
going to school adios
upper flicker
no
rose mist
upper flicker
in case anyone wants some night reading https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-security/cia-crypto-encryption-machines-espionage/
pretty good article
mental oriole
How’re you all doing?
orchid raft
Z750 Only half way through (currently at work) super interesting thanks for the share
cerulean thicket
anyone know which plugin might have this specific message, i just tried scouring all my plugin configs for anything about a hopper limit and couldn't find anything obvious: To prevent server lag, hoppers are limited to 10 per chunk.
queen rapids
are you using lag assist
idle jewel
queen rapids
plugin
cerulean thicket
i am not
Plugins (16): CoreProtect, CrazyEnchantments, DiscordSRV, EpicRename, Essentials, EssentialsChat, EssentialsProtect, Harbor, LuckPerms, LWC, mcMMO, PopulationDensity, pvparena, Vault, WorldEdit, WorldGuard
PopulationDensity has a "Maximum Hoppers Per Chunk" setting in its config.yml
cerulean thicket
what a totally unrelated config option, huh.
shadow forge
mental oriole
@shadow forge Welcome
stiff yarrow
lifes been dark but it seems to be getting better 😛
upper flicker
mental oriole
nossr, are you okay
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf-uNKCJpAc
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Out of the Dark - length 4m 8s - 147 likes, 7 dislikes (95.5%) - 6,166 views - Matt Hires - Topic on 2014.11.08
mental oriole
Good bot
stiff yarrow
Only mildly traumatized
void void
whatcha children doing
magic river
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magic river
WSL2 is pretty nice
Too bad it breaks other VMs due to requiring hyperv
Virtualbox had hyperv support but it broke with the version of Windows that supports WSL2...
void void
why does Arrowhead water taste LIKE SHIT
void void
i guess so, idk i dont drink it often it's just what i have rn
it tastes so fucking bad
golden gust
Like, I've had some nice spring water, but some of it is just so fucking shit
void void
golden gust
it's literally tap water, filtered and tainted with minerals and crap
merry talon
yeah my tap water tastes better
golden gust
I honestly don't understand why people bother with bottled water, tbh
Like, I generally drink stuff like tea, but, tap water is okay
My flatmate drinks bottled water all the time, and it's nice to keep it in the fridge, but like, i kinda just miss having a standard water filter
limber knotBOT
boil your water, don't bother with bottled water in most areas*
pulsar wigeon
tap water isnt good for drinking in a bunch of places. that said those carbon filters are pretty good, would definitely take that over bottled
void void
yea i gotta invest in a tap filter
i dont like straight tap, even if it is potable
i just..idk
i cant do it
pulsar wigeon
just like, i get a letter at least twice a year from my water utility about how they suck at cleaning and monitoring and oops they violated the limit of some chemical or another
golden gust
lol
pulsar wigeon
but no worries they'll totally do better next time til the next letter 6 months later
golden gust
Before I left my hometown a few years ago, there was a boil warning in place due to some contamination of the water supply, turned out to be down to some farm or something like that
Beyond that, UK water is okay
pulsar wigeon
ur ok
golden gust
Saying that, you can defo taste that the water is shit in some areas, not to mention all our aging infrastructure... it's all fun
If I drank water more often, I'd have a filter, otherwise, it's k
void void
so when i say that arrowhead tastes like shit
golden gust
Kinda like dealing with simple
void void
i mean
void void
it tastes like fucking nothing
they've filtered out every possible mineral
bad, and good
pulsar wigeon
so, simple
void void
it's just. no. i need some minerals in my water
and no, i dont need flavors
just minerals
thx
spice geyser
Does someone know if holding a lootingsword increases the drop from killing a mob by one of your dogs?
void void
would that work
golden gust
he already ful of salt
pulsar wigeon
yes
pulsar wigeon
u dum
void void
:(
pulsar wigeon
drink pasta water
in addition to salt, you get some starches
mmm nutritious water
vestal jasper
"When did 
become the passive aggressive emote"
Not sure tbh Z it just kinda works, it's my goto pretty frequently.
golden gust
vestal jasper
y u thonk me
hard kernel
Morning cat
golden gust
coz u clearly dun thonk
pulsar wigeon
this channel full of donk and has not enough thonk
hard kernel
Can one of u fine lads link me the list of best machines again
pulsar wigeon
pls lend brain cells for thonk leaf
golden gust
Just go for a super modern i7 or ryzen 5 or whateveris the hype these days
hard kernel
Night wiz
golden gust
nite
pulsar wigeon
not u new2PC
golden gust
depends on what you're after, is earlyand bleh
hard kernel
Dm me
golden gust
ur gross
void void
u 2 bb
brazen rain
pearl thorn
void void
why does cod: mw need to randomly download 60 fucking gigabytes
what changed that caused a 60gb diff
golden gust
coz fuq u
wide chasm
I don't see the issue /s
granite socket
short yarrow
I got an offer from Microsoft even though I had garbage code for one of the interviews. Guess I did well on the other three
Man jobs make me nervous. I have no idea what I'm going into.
I just know I will be working on Azure and will probably use C#
void void
wel
well
if you know java, you know C#
it just has a few more lang features and its code style is a bit different (stupid imo)
as for azure, fuck it
it's basic cloud provider shit
you'll be fine
nice work
golden gust
god, I waited for the sun to come up before going out
it literally looks as bright as simples future outside
void void
:(
vestal jasper
was that a compliment? or do you live in the UK 
golden gust
I live in the UK
vestal jasper
nice
golden gust
rip
cosmic raft
N26?
void void
.g n26
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://n26.com/en-us -- N26 - Mobile Banking the World Loves — N26 United States: "Open an N26 account directly from your phone in 5 minutes and experience banking with no hidden fees. Yes, really — no minimum account balance, ..."
golden gust
TRANSPARENT
FUCK SAKE
Woulda banked with 'em just coz their card is transparent
ngfl
void void
quite honestly i liked Revolut's metal card more :D
basically like budget apple card
i used Simple bank for a while (interestingly similar to my name; but no, not the inspiration). it was quite nice, but all my debt collectors have figured out its my bank so i've unfortunately stopped using it for now
but you'd not be really sad if it turned black inside your wallet
im paying them off but they can fuck off trying to auto debit me
ill pay them when i comfortably can
golden gust
currently use monzo as their app is much better than natwest, and just, much easier to deal with in general, tbqh
All of the mainstreet banks are slowly improving their apps and stuff
pretty sure that one of them actually started up a sub bank sorta thing which is "app powered"
golden gust
Kinda crazy how this modern banking crazy is taking over 😄
void void
you couldn't transfer it outside nor transfer crypto from external accounts
so you're basically buying bitcoin worth RevolutCoins (R)
succccc
short yarrow
Revolut has cool cards but I heard they can be a bit sketchy
void void
o btw this guy in the grocery earlier used to be an asshole in highschool but i made him go to the back and find a product i couldnt find today i felt like a god
cosmic raft
N26 isn't available in Canada :(
short yarrow
Haha
golden gust
lol
void void
after he left i got on the phone with my sister about an irrelevant convo and he came back with the product and i gave him the wait lol hand motion while i finished my convo
i felt like a motherfucking god
i swear
short yarrow
😂
golden gust
mfw
short yarrow
How does paper/spigot get updated to the latest MC version?
heady spear
There’s a career fair at uni and it’s impossible to get anywhere
void void
Spigot updates. Someone on the contributor team takes a look and updates it. Submits PR. PR gets reviewed. Other reviewers look, fix if necessary. It gets pulled. Boom update. Thats paper.
As for spigot, md does it
But same process.
short yarrow
Do you have to decompile and deobfuscate the mc server jar to update?
void void
yes
well not deobfs
paper leaves comment hints as to what the method is
if necessary, the method is renamed
but...yeah, decompile is part of the script provided
we cant use mojangs official decomplation mappings bc weird license
so we use our own
short yarrow
Isnt the mc server jar obfuscated?
golden gust
Basically, spigot deals with remapping the jar and decompiling it and modifying it for craftbukkits changes
Then, spigots done over the top of that, then paper
Spigots process is basically locked away and hidden from the rest of the world, however
o, nice, the suns peaking out
short yarrow
Okay I just looked at the minecraft jar. How the hell can you identify new packets or new classes
void void
guys whats a datapack or plugin that adds vanilla-esque content
for example that make more uses for items/blocks (like how redstone is basically useless unless u build redstone contraptions)
golden gust
Well, we don't deal with remapping stuff, if it was up to us, we'd probably be using something saner than going DIY
But, upgrading mappings is partially automated, spigot only maps what they use too, which cuts down on a lot of the work for them
short yarrow
Mappings are just converting obfuscated class names to the readable one?
golden gust
The clusterfuck of this community is that you basically have multiple people repeating the same work
tbqh
tools like burger are pretty nice, tbqh, especially as they rip the jar apart
Saying that, mcp is nice and all, but slow af as it depends on forges team and just.. yea...
Yarn is the pretty new shiny thing and they often have mappings out on the hour, not 100% and heavily worked after that, but, they're faster for moving forward
short yarrow
I'm so confused how you can get mumbo jumbo to something readable. I'd like to think obfuscated names change every version?
golden gust
and then you have spigot, all on their own in their own corner
Yes, but that's a 3 way mapping job
If you know what mojang changed from a > b, you can just apply that over your own data
limber knotBOT
burger is mainly used to update wiki.vg
and the whole mapping thing will hopefully die sooon (tm)
short yarrow
so what is this burger you speak of
limber knotBOT
helen is sick so I didnt get an update on the legal stuff
golden gust
Spigot will still have their own mappings, I can't really see that changing, even if we get a "can use them however the heck you want" go ahead
limber knotBOT
I still believe that legal will get their shit together and allow us to use the mappings
if md doesnt want to do the work
I sure would step up to do it
and I bet others would too
golden gust
it's not about somebody stepping up to do the work for stuff like that
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you would need to get him to accept
limber knotBOT
sure, it would be a pretty big bang
golden gust
It's the whole "brining other stuff into the stack"
limber knotBOT
and every nms plugin will break
golden gust
Which, I seriously cannot see him doing
limber knotBOT
but the benefits are unheard of
do you think mojang will ever take them away again?
golden gust
No
limber knotBOT
if they went thru the pain with legal?
golden gust
it's getting md to accept such changes
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md accepting a diff 
golden gust
He'll probs find some way to disagree with their inclusion for some reason, e.g. legal, and say nop
limber knotBOT
it would be incredible sad
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it will be
limber knotBOT
because ideally, every mappings would just die
golden gust
am just not holding up much hope given md in general
limber knotBOT
and we would all use mojang mappings
at which market share percentage will paper fork off of spigot for good? :D
golden gust
We still have to maintain support for spigot stuff
limber knotBOT
spigot will soon drop to under 50% :D
golden gust
Saying that, if mojang did that
golden gust
Could probs basically adopt some of forges tools, etc
Well, yea, that would be the dream, lol
limber knotBOT
and we are pretty damm close
like, who would have thought that they would ever release mappings?
golden gust
I mean, it was a shocker, that's the say the least
I just know I upstream enough to know not to hold my hopes out much lol
limber knotBOT
we could prolly get the community to get out their pitchworks on the forums
that would be fun
:D
idk, we will see
I lljust keep harassing helen about it
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part of me wants nms to remain in spigot mappings 
prevent the plugin plebians from overusing
limber knotBOT
pull a md and log illegal access to console 😂
we would also all need to relearn to class names, the packages could ruin our diffs, etc, its not a small task to switch
golden gust
You shouldn't say shit like that
limber knotBOT
but once we are there, man
golden gust
We already remove the security manager from bungee :L
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remapping the patches will be easy
limber knotBOT
I mean not the remapping
the access level stuff
since we have package private stuff
static badge
uh huh that'll suck
limber knotBOT
lets remove package names from mojang mappings 😂
oak mantle
short yarrow
I'm looking at MCP mappings for methods. What's searge?
short yarrow
why is there a column with his name o.o
limber knotBOT
but you might be stumbling upon searge names, the format mcp renamed obfuscated methods to make them unique
function_141414_1 or smth iirc
limber knotBOT
if I understand this would thing correctly they should, yeah
thats the whole point of srg names
but I dont do mcp
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doubt all of them do
static badge
you should leave
short yarrow
okay I hope I'm getting this. mojang's obfuscated names get mapped to searge names which are mapped to readable names
static badge
yes
void void
aren't srg names generated programmatically? e.g field_<count>_<original name> ?
perhaps i'm wrong at the original name part
next bet would be incrementing characters (alphabet)
same goes with method and parameter names
short yarrow
to me it seems impossible to get obfuscated names to something readable