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magic pier
upper flicker
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just need one of those for this channel

limber knotBOT
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r8 me like one of your french girls z750

upper flicker
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0/10

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too much beard

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maybe if I was into vikings

void void
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too hairy*

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leave remaining for him to figure out :^)

limber knotBOT
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only in the places that matter mikro

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69craft

honest wing
limber knotBOT
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man I'm probably going to reach 50k lines of code on my project this year

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I should celebrate that somehow

golden gust
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Yes, with a rm -rfv

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the -v is so you can see the enjoyment coming back into your life

limber knotBOT
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so mean

woven otter
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uh oh 2 can't connect with 2 discord servers

violet crescent
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Hello, the last version of waterfall support the 1.15.2 version ?

golden gust
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At least use the correct channel....

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(and like... read...)

void void
woven otter
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wiz not doing his job again smh

violet crescent
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Sorry .....

atomic rapids
nimble roost
latent valve
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why everyone want 1.15.2 support aka bungee pl etc lol when it litterly just came out

serene peak
true canyon
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Because they're impatient. May be helpful to get an announcement up reminding people things take time. ๐Ÿ™‚

golden gust
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People don't read them anyways

latent valve
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1.15.2 when ---> kicked
Cat make the bot kick anyone who say 1.15.2 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

amber cosmos
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๐Ÿค

latent valve
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Instead of letting wiz do all the dirt work ๐Ÿ˜‚

amber cosmos
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fisho0 โค๏ธ wiz

latent valve
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If you rly love him. Ping him

amber cosmos
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xD

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I did that during 15.1 (I didn't say two) and got kicked (again).

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fisho0 is learning.

latent valve
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I ping him by accident cuz discord is g4why
ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ gonna at-wizjanyyyyy but it ping him lel

violet crescent
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@latent valve @true canyon I'm not impatient but i want go in my bed :p

true canyon
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You want go in your bed

violet crescent
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And in the big discord i can't read all text ;x

true canyon
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Do you need to visit the restroom?

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Or do you enjoy doing it in the bed

violet crescent
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??

true canyon
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As long as it's your bed I guess it's ok

amber cosmos
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move your bed next to your computer and keep the screen on your face. you can do both.

violet crescent
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Ahaha

sullen island
violet crescent
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Because every minecraft update I go to bed before waterfall is updated

amber cosmos
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get a longer chord for your keyboard and you're laying like a pea in a pod.

violet crescent
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And it is that my criticism but I came 2 times asked something on the discord I was wrongly answered

amber cosmos
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what are u looking forward to tomorrow?

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anything planned?

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what's for breakfast?

violet crescent
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I'm not english, so read all the news of a discord with so many members no thanks

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The restart of my server is at 3h

latent valve
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Wut

amber cosmos
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okay I have to go back to work now baii

violet crescent
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Nothing in a hurry it's just a question or you can answer me without telling me: Must read is not the right channel ...

latent valve
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Is dat google translate or smt ๐Ÿ˜ณ

violet crescent
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I use that if i'm angry lol

golden gust
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o.O

visual zealot
civic rune
torn flare
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guYS Why iSN'T 1.16 RELASED ON PAPER YET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Jk. Good luck to you all. I'm sure you love release days

latent valve
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okboomernofunny joined the server

violet crescent
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..

torn flare
violet crescent
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Good mentality here

torn flare
woven otter
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what the hell is this

minor badge
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quackers

latent valve
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It quack quack quackkkkkk quack quackkk quackkk

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Ok quack?

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๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿฆ† pepega

minor badge
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and there went not only my braincells

woven otter
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marina and the diamonds

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are you a fan proxy

somber moon
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I'm a bit late to post this but for those of you that haven't seen it, better late than never:

woven otter
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oh fuck off

latent valve
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Holly shit

minor badge
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@woven otter yes

granite salmon
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Old

minor badge
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@golden gust as you talked last u get the ping

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can u clean our screens

woven otter
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oh nice. kash, cat and I like her too.

golden gust
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  1. please don't ping
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  1. Morons
woven otter
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u hurt the cat proxy

minor badge
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ok i will now only ping him in irc ๐Ÿ˜Ž

latent valve
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  1. instead of pinging cat ping wiz cuz he take these action reallll seriously
  2. pray
lavish fossil
swift flume
sleek reef
jaunty vessel
frozen crescent
placid thicket
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if you had a bot spam that <insert version> isn't ready yet once an hour, how many people do you think would still ask?

static badge
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a lot :>

granite salmon
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^

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who reads lmao

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you have to be kidding

limber knotBOT
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the only right move is to not allow new people to join until the new version is ready and kick everyone mentioning the version automatically

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runs

placid thicket
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that has potential for a lot of false positives and bad PR

limber knotBOT
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who cares, lol?

quasi valley
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Big brain strats

limber knotBOT
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te important people are on irc anyways

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runs

worn pasture
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run faster

quasi valley
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He doesnโ€™t need to, you canโ€™t catch him from discord anyways

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Iโ€™d also be using irc from mobile if I could be bothered to send my thelounge pw to my phone aaaa_helpme

void void
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bruh my mondays are gonna be fuckacko.

11am-12:20pm history
12:45pm-5:20pm chemistry

grinchwut

quasi valley
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Chemistry lefbad

void void
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yeah pepeshake

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i know

quasi valley
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Got rid of that as soon as I could in 10th grade

granite salmon
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History = lies

void void
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i wanted physics but it was full so i guess im doing chemistry

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and bc im taking this class, that means I'll have to take chem 1, 2 and chem for engineers later

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would have been phys 1,2,3 + phys for engineers

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:/

latent valve
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History contain a bunch of death ppl and a bunch of lies

void void
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yea thanks its not like im learning history for the first time

quasi valley
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Studying history is a bit different to school history

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No idea how so many places still teach ducking myths

void void
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its 1 class for a requirement, im not 'studying history'

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i could give less than a fuck if for the entire sem we watched barney and were brainwashed into believing that was hitler in ww2

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as long as i get my a

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it's college, not at a uni though

quasi valley
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Similar enough

void void
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point being?

tranquil cipher
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when is it being updated to 1.15.2

quasi valley
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I got a nice 4,0 in American history because holy butts do I find learning things by heart boring

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Now it will be updated an hour later

winged citrus
pulsar hearth
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does anyone know mac's equivalent of ctrl

quasi valley
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One time asking equals one developer having a seizure

upper flicker
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command everywhere but the terminal

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in the terminal control still sends signals

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which is super nice

pulsar hearth
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i have a friend who i tried 'teaching' to control q entire stacks of items

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but apparently mac doesnt like that

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could it be something configurable?

latent valve
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.eta @tranquil cipher

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

upper flicker
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I dont remember what it is on mac, I thought it was configurable though

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try control, try option, try command

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one ought to work

hidden gorge
upper vigil
limber knotBOT
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TIL you can read any file on the server via holographic displays

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Like

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What the actual fuck

void void
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LUL

limber knotBOT
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I just talked to somebody who got his server taken over via stuff like that

upper flicker
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inb4 someone grabs /etc/shadow and just brutes it over a few days with a couple dictionaries

void void
quasi valley
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Like again or still read any files

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Lmao

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Pretty sure that was a thing 2 years ago.. and one year ago

limber knotBOT
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is hillary clinton back on the presidential race?

humble crest
icy apex
dapper nacelle
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@EventHandler
private void onInventoryClickEvent(InventoryClickEvent event) {
    ItemStack clickedItem = event.getCurrentItem();
    ItemStack cursorItem = event.getCursor();
    Player player = (Player) event.getWhoClicked();
    player.sendMessage("clicked!");
    if (clickedItem != null && cursorItem != null && ItemTag.IS_WAND.isTagged(clickedItem)) {
        ItemUtil.getPersistentData(cursorItem, "spell", PersistentDataType.INTEGER).ifPresent(spellId -> {
            player.sendMessage("clicked on wand");
            event.setCancelled(true);
            // remove cursor item
        });
    }
}
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upon clicking with the cursorItem on the currentItem the cursorItem transforms into a duplicate of the cursorItem

limber knotBOT
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#paper

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not #paper-dev

dapper nacelle
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inventory drag event stuff

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oof

woven otter
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yeah but you can do that only if you have perms though right Mini?

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I mean it's still fucked up

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but

red root
muted pelican
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hi ! what's the best plugin to use for multi world management ? i'm using multiverse for my paper server but it seems so outdated and buggy

rare herald
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Well that's weird, my spigot-1.15.2.jar file seems to have yeeted itself

granite salmon
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wut

limber knotBOT
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Another exploit was used to get those perms

granite salmon
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it's out?

limber knotBOT
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Yes, few minutes

granite salmon
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nice

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oh yeah is there any major fixes in 1.15.2 or just generic stuff

unreal quarry
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Remember kids, if you use a spigot jar with your paper worlds you'll lose all that paper metadata ;)

granite salmon
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huh

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what metadata does it use

celest bane
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Good thing my server admin already did that one time for some reason

merry talon
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yeah you shouldn't put the security of your host OS in the hands of a minecraft permissions plugin

granite salmon
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i noticed saplings can grow beehives if flowers are near

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which is very nice

trim steeple
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Do they also grow bees

limber knotBOT
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I don't get why spigot readded the vanila gui

unreal quarry
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Pssh, purpur does that in 1.15.1, but without the flower requirement :p

pulsar wigeon
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wait what

rare herald
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nogui time

pulsar wigeon
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gui is back? lul

rare herald
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mhm

pulsar wigeon
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is that an accident

granite salmon
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nshire it would be like a new tree generating so yes?

limber knotBOT
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No it's mentioned in the post

quasi valley
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How does that even look like, I never came to actually see that until now lol

unreal quarry
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Wait, he readded the GUI?! That asshat.. I literally just added that back in purpur last week. :/

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Robbed, yet again

granite salmon
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copying you

quasi valley
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Md stealing purpur patches confirmed

granite salmon
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yes

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i say we launch legal action

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very nice new game rules

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keep up the work in that regard mojang

quasi valley
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Yeah itโ€™s nice that they add game rules for all those little things

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Also snowball damage with the future combat update for example

granite salmon
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BuT mY 1.8 pEeVeEpEe GaMeRuLe

static badge
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did we re-add server gui in .2 or something

golden gust
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md apparently re-added it

woven otter
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Mini another exploit? Related to what if you can talk about it?

granite salmon
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snowball damage eh?

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time to make them insta kill and blame the players for making it have too much ice in it

quasi valley
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Or rather knockback, not like its taking half a heart

static badge
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fuck

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how annoying

granite salmon
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wasn't snowballs and eggs broken for ages

quasi valley
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Iirc yes, but itโ€™ll properly go into that update with said gamerule

hasty fjord
granite salmon
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i won't lie 1.15.2 is very nice

limber knotBOT
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No I will not go into more detail

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I already said too much

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There will be a post mortem

quasi valley
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The Minecraft policeโ€™s gonna catch mini

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But yeah making exploits public is pepega

limber knotBOT
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It was discussed under Microsoft nda

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So mircosoft police will hunt me down ๐Ÿ˜‚

woven otter
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oh looks like it's enough

peak dirge
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The Minecraft community in general has a very poor security reputation

quasi valley
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A holo exploit discussed under Microsoft NDA?

woven otter
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no perm exploit

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holo exploit was a different exploit

granite salmon
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wait ahat

quasi valley
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Ah

granite salmon
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what

limber knotBOT
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The whole channel and everything in it is under NDA

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les fix dis

pulsar wigeon
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holo display is just doing dumb shit by exposing file system access via commands

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unrelated is a perms exploit to get access to the commands

limber knotBOT
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!quiet MiniDigger

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am fixud

granite salmon
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mini

limber knotBOT
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!unquiet MiniDigger

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The Holo exploit was already patched iirc

granite salmon
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is that the one michael sneaked in to

peak dirge
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Few people bother to responsibly disclose issues

limber knotBOT
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We sneaked him in, ye

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fix ur dum hostmask u dum

granite salmon
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๐Ÿ˜‚

woven otter
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I guess it will be fixed soon then yes?

limber knotBOT
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Is it fixed?

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I still don't understand irc modes after all those years

hard kernel
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any1 wanna make some money?

woven otter
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yes

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give money

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now

limber knotBOT
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You has +x or whatever it was set

quasi valley
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More often that not itโ€™s a handful of people being like โ€œoh no one knows of that yet, so I can just sneakily abuse it and everyone else will be fineโ€

hard kernel
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duck dm me

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i like ducks

limber knotBOT
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bttr

quasi valley
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I think he wants to abuse you, duck

limber knotBOT
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Now it's right?

woven otter
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Kenny can I abuse ViaVersion bugs

limber knotBOT
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ye

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I always forgot if it's +x or -x

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MiniDigger (~MiniDigger@electroniccat.smells.minidigger.me) joined the channel

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The Holo stuff is an actual feature

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It's just stupid

golden gust
woven otter
limber knotBOT
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Lightbans as a similar stupid feature

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Allows you to run SQL via a command

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Very nice

pulsar wigeon
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actually, i don't see the issue with the holo code

quasi valley
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Wat

pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
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It's fixed

pulsar wigeon
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where is bug

limber knotBOT
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The server used an old version

pulsar wigeon
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oooh

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lmao

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rekt

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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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โ˜‘ The Arekters

pulsar wigeon
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2 years old

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tfw hit by 2 year old bug

quasi valley
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Smells like a 1.8 server

pulsar wigeon
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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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โ˜‘ java.lang.RektPointerException

woven otter
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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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โ˜‘ REKT-it Ralph

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I can't wait for the postmortem

woven otter
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when is that

limber knotBOT
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When it's done

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They still evaluating damages

pulsar wigeon
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evaluating damages?

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o-o

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this sounds pretty bad

limber knotBOT
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Well, they need to know what kind of data the attackers got

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PII, u know, gotta disclose that to authorities and stuff

woven otter
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evaluating damages
lefbad

winged citrus
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I would like a plugin where players can place ONLY an eye of ender which has a custom name
also I would like it to trigger a command or something when all of the portal frames have eyes

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if anyone can make that for me it would be great

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dm me

woven otter
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well do you want to pay though

winged citrus
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it would only take about 10 minutes

pulsar wigeon
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so, $100

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?

woven otter
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doesn't change my question

winged citrus
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uh

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maybe a dolalr

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, you're looking at at least a billable hour

void void
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whee just ordered food

pulsar wigeon
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if "it would only take about 10 minutes" just do it yourself

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lmao

quasi valley
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Fatty

placid thicket
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hang on, someone explain what is happening?

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what got breached?

woven otter
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Honestly starting price is 10$

quasi valley
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The pentagon

winged citrus
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wizjany im trash t java and i mess up something every time

void void
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he said he wants a plugin, they said you gonna pay? he said 10 minutes.
they said ok?

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that's whats happening

pulsar wigeon
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that's why devs who know what they're doing charge big bux

void void
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its another person who doesnt respect development time and thinks its just a hobby that can be contracted for low prices because devs arent human or something

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nothing new

placid thicket
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the pentagon got hacked? what kind of hack?

woven otter
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I hacked you yes

limber knotBOT
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One last thing before I go to sleep

pulsar wigeon
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tf are you smoking lol

placid thicket
limber knotBOT
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Because they had discord linked to mc

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Discord is also rip

static badge
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wtf got rolled

woven otter
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because it was a bot that had perms?

limber knotBOT
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Anyways, solution to all this: don't use any public plugins

quasi valley
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Synchronizing Admin perms is stupid

clear merlin
quasi valley
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Thatโ€™s their fault then

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๐Ÿ˜‚

static badge
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why do people give bots more perms than they should have

limber knotBOT
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This is all their fault, yeah

pulsar wigeon
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yea definitely a lot of things they did wrong

limber knotBOT
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But it can happen to everyone if you are not careful

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For us devs it's easy to look down on them, you can only really protect yourself if you would be able to attack yourself

rose mulch
limber knotBOT
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I believe worldedit and worldguard are some of the last public plugins we use, gonna get rid of those too

acoustic gust
limber knotBOT
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We only use region detection anyways, better be save

placid thicket
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okay, actually confused what is going on now >.>

woven otter
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nothing go to sleep

placid thicket
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but i just woke up

quasi valley
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go to sleep again

woven otter
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yes

limber knotBOT
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Prime reason to go to sleep

placid thicket
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nah, today is the one day a week i have to do something >.>

quasi valley
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Not being asleep is quite a good reason to go to sleep

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The public ones we use are we and wg as well, plus protocollib ||and our precious protocol hacks||

celest coyote
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You mean disgusting

pulsar wigeon
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why do you guys use those shitty ๐Ÿšฎ plugins

lapis shale
woven otter
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Via is the worst plugin

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well

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all Via plugins

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is what I mean

limber knotBOT
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Right

quasi valley
limber knotBOT
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Protocolsupport ftw!

unreal quarry
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For once, I agree with the duck

limber knotBOT
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is this a crossover episode?

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the dumdums team up

granite salmon
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i gave up on protocol hacks

woven otter
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magma ur the biggest dum dum here

limber knotBOT
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you're electing me to leader of the dumdum league?

void void
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yea, because you are

woven otter
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yes

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indeed

void void
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couldnt even figure out placeholder api on stream

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i had to help

limber knotBOT
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alright you heard them, give me OP

hard kernel
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hi simple

void void
hard kernel
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๐Ÿ˜›

limber knotBOT
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I'm about to lead these fools

pulsar wigeon
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so..just you?

woven otter
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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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โ˜‘ REKT in pieces

hard kernel
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^-^ how much anime do u watch

limber knotBOT
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watching anime? what am I, a fucking amateur with shit taste?

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I read the manga

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you fucking pleb

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perish the thought

elfin quest
granite salmon
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WELCOME

quasi valley
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Magma is prolly just an old hentai addict

limber knotBOT
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how'd you learn about my love of grandma hentai

quasi valley
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too specific

void void
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mods rule 1 broken

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i mean rule 2

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but also rule 1

quasi valley
limber knotBOT
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that's fine, those are the discord rules

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I'm an irc user

quasi valley
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The rules donโ€™t even include advertising do they thinking_eyes

limber knotBOT
void void
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rule 3 is mods decide

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so they do

hard kernel
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only anime ive watched is pokemon as a kid

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weeb

somber bough
quasi valley
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Alright time to sleep, good night poopl

void void
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sleep?

golden gust
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my brain went sideways

void void
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.kill kennytv

limber knotBOT
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snacks on kennytv's dismembered body.

void void
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permanent sleep.

golden gust
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I thought that you said that you was going to poop

pulsar wigeon
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cat your brain is permanently sideways

golden gust
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u shud tri dat simp

quasi valley
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oO

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โ€œGood Night, em gonna poopโ€

woven otter
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what with cat brain

lapis shale
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wHeN gOnNa UpDaTe To 1.15.2

granite salmon
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enjoy ban

lapis shale
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sad

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noises

woven otter
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what's 1.15.2

limber knotBOT
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when are we going to downgrade to 1.0

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that's the full release that Notch intended

woven otter
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is minecraft still being updated? thonk

lapis shale
limber knotBOT
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(^-^) What we Do Here is Go Back - Otis McDonald - length 1m 56s - 50,093 likes, 511 dislikes (99.0%) - 1,717,813 views - Great Random Music on 2016.08.08

drowsy oxide
hard kernel
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.kill new2pc

limber knotBOT
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crushes new2pc with a huge spiked rock.

hard kernel
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ty

frosty hazel
void void
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I did //setnear 1.7e7 water and my server crashed idk why ๐Ÿฅด

true canyon
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I still don't understand irc modes after all those years
Just wanted to brag that I do understand them

golden gust
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Yea

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but

limber knotBOT
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I mean google is a thing

upper flicker
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wow look at mr bigshot over here

golden gust
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do u kno dah regex?

limber knotBOT
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runs

void void
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@wheat quarry ๐Ÿฅฐ

limber knotBOT
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trying to ping a bot

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wat

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pinging

void void
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Imagine pretending to be a bot ๐Ÿคฏ

limber knotBOT
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speak for yourself

void void
true canyon
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OMG REGEX IS FUN

ivory sable
grim brook
fierce patio
dim plank
golden gust
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) FULL-FAT Babybel versus 250V cheesemageddon. - length 5m 16s - 747 likes, 12 dislikes (98.4%) - 5,299 views - bigclivedotcom on 2020.01.21

past turtle
woven otter
unreal quarry
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Brigadier isn't in anyone's maven repo

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Afaik

woven otter
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yes that is very interesting

normal night
merry talon
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the problem with irc modes is that they vary by network

woven otter
void void
wet spire
hard kernel
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AMD Ryzen 9 3900x or i9 9900k for minecraft?

proud lance
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probably the 9

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cause the extra cores

celest coyote
#

depends on if you are overclocking the i9 to 5G

merry talon
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i dont think so

void void
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There's Almost no difference between the 2

merry talon
#

the ryzen 9 can overclock too

hard kernel
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i thought less cores more clockspeed is best for minecraft

proud lance
#

thats not how that works

celest coyote
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ryzen can't overclock much

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they are already factory tuned

latent valve
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how stable is ryzen compare to intel ?

void void
#

There's no difference in stability

proud lance
#

they are probably both stable

celest coyote
#

both are stable

merry talon
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if you're running either of those chips you will be running into software limits

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so more cores means you can run more servers

violet hazel
celest coyote
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if you arn't bothering to overclock the 9900k to atleast 5Ghz, just go for the ryzen

crystal compass
void void
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Ryzen is cheaper and for any multi core apps better and practically the same in single threaded applications

proud lance
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I am assuming we are talking about minecraft server hosting and this is comparison from a provider

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not for some home server

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or minecraft the game

hard kernel
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if im only running 4 servers why would i need more cores?

void void
#

For Minecraft there's genuinely no difference between an i9 and r9

clear merlin
#

incase you want to run more java applications

proud lance
#

because each server runs on a separate main thread, and elements of the servers do support multithread

celest coyote
#

paper recommends more than 2 cores per server

hard kernel
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yea both would be stock i think i would break the TOS if its even possible to overclock a rented box

proud lance
#

so yeah then the ryzen

celest coyote
#

go for the ryzen then

void void
#

Ryzen honestly dominates

hard kernel
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if i already have the i9 just keep it?

celest coyote
#

yeah

void void
#

If I ever run a factions server again I'll probably rent a ryzen box

celest coyote
#

not a big difference

proud lance
#

only if you plan on running more servers

void void
#

Factions loves cpu

proud lance
#

but it wont do much for making the existing ones run better

hard kernel
#

kk just checking in case there is a huge difference.

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thx for the help

void void
#

There's Almost no difference at stock speeds for most purposes

celest coyote
#

thinking about buying a 3900x for myself :>

proud lance
#

I might make the switch to ryzen

celest coyote
#

would be quite a big upgrade from 4670k

void void
#

Ryzen absolutely smokes Intel in multi threaded workloads though no doubt

proud lance
#

if intel continues this trend

void void
#

In terms of when I built my new pc ryzen was a no brainer

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I didn't even think about it, I just went ryzen

merry talon
#

still a no brainer

void void
#

No one expected ryzen to be as good as it was when it came out

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It kinda came out of nowhere

hard kernel
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im not sure about how fast ur internet needs to be to home host a server. i have 300mbps dl 30mbps up

void void
#

Amd: hi Intel you want competition again you seem to be slacking do I need to teach you a lesson again

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Home hosting a public server is a bad idea

latent valve
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bottleneck prob be your upload

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well depend on playercount chunk etc

void void
#

No wrong

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It's just a bad idea

#

You'll get ddosed
Over and over and over again

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I know because I did it before a long time ago

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do people still say a vps is cheaper than a shared host?

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because it's not

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It is if you get it from the right place

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Contabo has hella cheap vps hosting

celest coyote
#

shared hosting is garbage

void void
#

where are you guys getting these good vps's

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I used contabo for quite a whole

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While

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what does kickash32 use

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Idk

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Contabo is cheap
60gb ram 10 core vps with 1600gb of ssd storage for like 30 bucks a month

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And I honestly never had a problem with them

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but that's a big server. i dont think you can get deals like that for a small server

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like seriously if you need 2gb of ram then how would a vps be cheaper than a small shared plan from extra vm

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What are you running on a 2gb server

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paper of course for like 10 players

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What version

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1.15

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I'd recommend at least 6gb for that

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geeeeez

charred hound
void void
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for 10 players?

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how come

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Yeah 1.15 loves ram

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Especially if you're going to run any plugins 6gb is the minimum I'd say

upper flicker
#

no it isnt

void void
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it's 10 lol

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nah jk what is it z7

upper flicker
#

depends what youre doing

void void
#

10 players, vanilla + essentials and like 4 other plugins

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most of the time there's only like 2-3 online but it can get up to 10. with 2gb so far i've had 20tps still

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maybe a few times it dipped below that

celest coyote
#

yikes, didn't even know it could start with 2GB

void void
#

it can start with 1

celest coyote
#

if it works for you, then thats great

void void
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my mc username is 1GB dont @ me

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It could start with 512mb probably it just wouldn't run slfery well

merry talon
#

lol 2gb is just fine for that

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even 1gb would likely be

celest coyote
#

I couldn't start 1.14 early paper builds with 2GB

void void
#

i wondered what z750's recommendation was since he's a dev

celest coyote
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so I upped it to 4GB

upper flicker
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if it works fine at 2G by all means leave it there

merry talon
#

well I dunno about 1.14

celest coyote
#

and then 6 GB cause why not

void void
#

yeah 1.14 was BAD! by the time 1.14.4 came tho it was mostly back to normal

upper flicker
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may keep an eye on your CPU usage, might be working the garbage collector a bit hard

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but if it runs it runs

void void
#

1.15 is even better than 1.14.4 although not as good as 1.12 i hear

upper flicker
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at 10 players the load is not that crazy

celest coyote
#

I noticed my cpu dropped by a lot by increasing ram

void void
#

1.14 ran crap no matter how much ram you gave it

upper flicker
#

maybe if they're flying around

void void
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that's the thing z7 im using shared hosting so i can use up to about 150% of my "cpu" at times and as long as its not ALWAYS at that load im good

celest coyote
#

yeah I know 1.14 ran like crap

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but I couldn't even connect with 2g

void void
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Not to mention the fact 1.14 was littered with bugs in general

remote fiber
void void
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1.14 made 1.13 look like the most optimised update ever

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yeah i started a new map on that version and nobody even played because it just crashed all the time ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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My fps is great in every version except 1.14 lol

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if you went into the nether you just fell through the void ๐Ÿ˜‚

charred hound
#

early 1.14 builds: would crash every hour or so with 1GB and 2 players with no plugins
last 1.14.4 build: server runs 30 plugins on 1GB just fine with 2 people taking some schematics and such

celest coyote
#

you mean tps?

void void
#

Some plugins caused serious problems on 1.14 too

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A couple plugins caused mobs to spawn completely invisible and unhittable even though they could hit you

celest coyote
#

yeah I remember that

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dumb TAB plugin

charred hound
#

@void void 2g should be fine for that, so far have had up to 18 players on 1.15.1 with 4GB and 26 plugins so with your lesser needs shouldnt be an issue

void void
#

The irony is that same plugin worked perfectly in 1.15 with no update

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It was just 1.14 it didn't work in properly

celest coyote
#

1.15 is basically 1.14 with bug fixes

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1.14 had major under the hood changes

void void
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i'm thinking about getting 3gb even

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1.15 fixed like 700 bugs

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Lol

limber knotBOT
#

bees

upper flicker
#

tbh I still dont like giving hardware advice

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because some people are going to push their stuff to the ragged edge and the general advice will be too little

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and some people do creative mode block placing and can run on a pi

limber knotBOT
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1.15 added a bug

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so you know

void void
#

I think if there's one thing everyone agrees on here it's that 1.14 was terrible

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tru z750

limber knotBOT
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s/1.14 was/fortnite is

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Correction, <DiscordBot> <13Iโ€‹caโ€‹nLโ€‹evโ€‹itโ€‹atโ€‹e โ€‹//โ€‹ Sโ€‹piโ€‹goโ€‹tEโ€‹ssโ€‹enโ€‹tiโ€‹alโ€‹s> I think if there's one thing everyone agrees on here it's that fortnite is terrible

void void
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fortnite was good tho

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I mean I can't disagree fortnite is the worst game in existence

upper flicker
#

oh boy here we go

void void
#

why does everyone over 14 hate it

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its just a game

sand vale
#

ripoff of fallout 4

void void
#

I uninstalled fortnite after playing one match

upper flicker
#

probably the community

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also the scummy vbucks thing

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but I guess they arent alone in that

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lots of games doing that crap now

void void
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I just find the whole br concept boring

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Minecraft isn't boring because it has endless possibilities

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tru but i play overwatch and its the same type of game over and over but its still really fun so i can see why poeple like fortnite even tho i don't really

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Overwatch isn't br though

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in fact it was pretty fun to squad up with friends when it came out but now you would just get stomped by some sweaty pro in every game

crystal compass
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

#

(RoboMWM) Epic Game Store, Spyware, Tracking, and You! : PhoenixPoint - 1,050 comments, 2,344 points - notte_m_portent, 10mo ago

void void
#

what's the eta on 1.14.4 build 243 ๐Ÿค”

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need that shit asap

upper flicker
#

wat

void void
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

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1.15 is just a better 1.14

#

yep

#

1.15 server performance isn't the best but it's miles better than the 2 versions before it

#

anyone remember when mojang added a bunch of features in 1.4.4 and it was like not a new version but it had new shit

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Major versions that is

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it was either 1.4.2 or 1.4.4 i dont remember

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but they added mob heads and enchanted books

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like without updating to 1.5 ๐Ÿ˜‚

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and fireworks(?)

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Anyways imma sleep now as its 2 am and I have work in the morning lol

#

gn

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Gn

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ah it was 1.4.6 added enchanted books and fireworks but not mob heads

proud lance
#

1.15 server performance isn't the best but it's miles better than the 2 versions before it
waitwhat

#

1.13.2 performs better

merry talon
#

overwatch is the kind of fun that crippling alcoholism is

void void
#

lmao

#

not wrong

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get drunk every night but at what cost

#

extra vm is respected shared host right?

austere ivy
void void
#

ctrl-shift-r

upper flicker
#

someone cant read

austere ivy
upper flicker
#

also idk what github is doing

static badge
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I requested a review

#

so it probably thought u should now the build failed

upper flicker
#

wat

static badge
#

oh wait

#

that isn't even my pr

#

KEKWHYPER gh

solar needle
static badge
#

maybe because you were a committer in the pr?

#

well

upper flicker
#

idk but that is ๐Ÿšฎ

static badge
#

an author of a commit

grim rock
wide citrus
#

do any linux servers actually run on a gui?

latent valve
#

Window user reeeeeeeee

#

pepega ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Maybe idk ยฏ(ยฐ_o)/ยฏ

upper flicker
#

all 12 linux desktops

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and yeah there are actual servers that run with xorg

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not generally the preferred way to do it

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but there are edgecases, noobs, and other situations where it may be needed

narrow belfry
static badge
#

plebian uis

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run arch without ui

limber knotBOT
#

hey people who did PAPI placeholders, if it parses when using the PAPI command then the placeholder should be set just fine right?

upper flicker
#

the build server used to be headless arch

static badge
#

what is it now

upper flicker
#

its just like everything else except the packages are so fresh you get compat issues in the other direction

wide citrus
#

now it's windows server 2003 gui

upper flicker
#

ubuntu 18.04

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because lazy

static badge
#

ubuntu Pog

upper flicker
#

yeah meant to do debian

wide citrus
#

the circlejerk is strong here

upper flicker
#

but I uploaded an ubuntu iso

static badge
#

did you

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accidentally

upper flicker
#

I almost did centos

static badge
#

or what

upper flicker
#

but ehhh

#

like muh debian based

#

yeah I literally misclicked and walked off

static badge
upper flicker
#

and my upload is typical murican crap

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so I decided I just dont give a shit

#

ubuntu, debian, hannah montanah linux, run whatever makes you happy

#

besides, that ten year lifecycle means I can be lazy for a long time

static badge
#

.g hannah montanah linux

limber knotBOT
#

I just updated to 1.15.1 and every time I place a hive or nest I get a console error "Unknown property facing for block minecraft:bee_nest"

upper flicker
#

.1 or .2

static badge
#

yeah .1 or .2

#

we just did .2

#

and who knows about what md69 changed for mappings

tranquil cipher
upper flicker
#

there are quite a few mappings changes from the diff I saw

static badge
#

there was a legacy thing md69 fucked up on apparently

upper flicker
#

ooh lets see what that is

tranquil cipher
#

Most of my plugins dont work

static badge
#

no

upper flicker
#

lol

static badge
#

your plugins are out of date

upper flicker
#

not all of them

static badge
#

and md69 fucked the thing up to deal with it

#

is the tl;dr;ar

upper flicker
#

new build in a minute

tranquil cipher
#

Ok thanks @upper flicker

static badge
#

they don't define the newer api version peepoJuice

sharp sentinel
#

The field that was missing has nothing to do with outdated or deprecated stuff

#

It's Material.values() that breaks

#

Which is completely valid for new plugins to use

#

It's Spigot's shitty layered-on compatibility layers that broke

upper flicker
#

hey man I told them to just break it for 1.13.2

#

but noooooo

limber knotBOT
#

Are the errors I'm getting worldedit or the server?

upper flicker
#

theyre the server if youre on .2

sharp sentinel
#

I mean if the compatibility layers worked I wouldn't have an issue with them ๐Ÿ˜›

limber knotBOT
#

I'm on 1.15.1

upper flicker
#

oh

sharp sentinel
#

The fact that half the time the compatibility layer actually doesn't work makes it worse than nothing IMO

upper flicker
#

no idea then

#

shit has been running fine on 1.15.1

sharp sentinel
tranquil cipher
#

Its because paper hasn't updated yet that's what they told me @sharp sentinel

limber knotBOT
#

They keep happening.Now it's Unknown property facing for block minecraft:chest

sharp sentinel
#

Means you're running a version of WorldEdit that doesn't support your MC version

tranquil cipher
#

I'm using the latest worldedit version.

limber knotBOT
#

So that is worldedit

sharp sentinel
#

Well, yes, but it's fixable by you actually updating

tranquil cipher
#

worldedit-bukkit-7.1.0-SNAPSHOT-dist.jar

limber knotBOT
#

Oh, who were you talking to?

pulsar wigeon
#

shasta -> you need to wait for paper to get the latest spigot patch

#

fatherwh0 -> if you're on 1.15.1 still you're just running outdated WE

sharp sentinel
#

You, FatherWh0

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean

sharp sentinel
#

You don't even need dev builds

#

The last 2 releases on dbo support 1.15.1

pulsar wigeon
#

there's a dbo beta/rc for 1.15.1 already

#

only need dev for .2

tranquil cipher
#

Ok someone tag me when paper updates

cosmic raft
#

ugh

upper flicker
#

just pay attention to help

#

itll be in the next minute or so

tranquil cipher
#

is 65 the update

latent valve
limber knotBOT
#

Thanks for the info.

void void
#

Sup

#

Is this a problem on my end?

static badge
#

what's with dl's breaking on updates boys

void void
#

I got build 64

upper flicker
#

idk works here

#

I can blow out the CF cache once, could be some edge device

void void
#

Lmao, I'm trying to understand you, I really am.

#

I understand "edge device" i think

upper flicker
#

try it now

void void
#

Lol, I will.

#

It doesn't work still, I'll just stick with build 64

upper flicker
#

you dont want to do that

#

64 has problems

void void
#

Oof

#

Ok, nvm

upper flicker
void void
#

Alright, I have it on the box now. Thanks, Z750!

#

I should probably update protocol support too.

upper flicker
#

should probably bump up the priority on that api cache header bug

#

but it's saving me 6.5TB of traffic a month so still worth

#

anyway, yeah you should probably do a once over of all of them and see what needs updated and what doesnt

void void
#

Damn that's more than I use per month on 1 Gbps FTTH

#

I use like 3 TB/mo

#

Lol the best part is that my ISP doesn't care if you host servers. lol

upper flicker
#

we're hovering around 10TB/mo outbound

void void
#

Damn

upper flicker
#

it fluctuates a little

#

but that's where it is now

static badge
#

10TB is nothing until you see all the weird shit on cat's computer

#

nothing if

#

you've seen

#

fucking grammar

sleek tree
void void
#

I don't think I really know what grammar is to be honest. lol

#

I'm just kidding, I know what it is.

#

I know the amount of bandwidth I use is small numbers lol.

#

Apparently, on a busy day, my server will peak at 24 Mbps send rate.

#

I've never seen those numbers before. I'm glad I don't have a 12 Mbps upload anymore.

upper flicker
#

my home upload is awful

#

as is my traffic limit

#

which is idiotic but there's no other game in town

#

yay monopoly isps

static badge
#

ah yes

#

the united states of america

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isps are free to fuck you

void void
#

When I move i'm gonna have a 400/20 Mbps internet connection.

upper flicker
#

tbh it didnt sound like isps were a ton better up north in the great white maple leafy

void void
#

I might have to put my server on an OVH box.

static badge
#

oi

#

I'm trashing ur country right now leave a message after the beep

upper flicker
#

beeeep

static badge
#

no I have to say it

upper flicker
#

beeeeeeeeeeeeep

static badge
#

it's NOT RECORDING

upper flicker
#

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

static badge
#

mfw literally retarded

upper flicker
static badge
#

oh wait I'm not here

void void
#

??

static badge
#

this channel is always retarded welcome

void void
#

Oh lol

#

Off topic: know what I can't stand?

static badge
#

people asking when 1.15.2 is out?

void void
#

When players get on your server and the first thing they say.

static badge
void void
#

"Can I have staff?"

waxen panther
void void
#

All fucking week long. lol

static badge
#

minecraft players Pog

astral depot
static badge
#

"im from pmc"

latent valve
#

will there be 1.15.3? ahha from mojang

sharp sentinel
#

Wait how is paper hitting that kind of bandwidth

void void
#

1.15.3 will be out tomorrow

latent valve
#

u funny eh

sharp sentinel
#

Oh I guess Paper is significantly larger in file size to WorldEdit

void void
#

I think that was when there was 1000 mobs

upper flicker
#

paper is 40mb

#

yeah its a pretty chonky boi

void void
#

I used to think 40 Mb was big

static badge
#

used to think 2 inches was big

void void
#

Like when I had 3 Mbps DSL

static badge
#

I mean what

waxen panther
#

chonk'd

void void
#

What do you even do with 2 inches?

#

Nevermind

sharp sentinel
#

Lol I tried loading CloudFlare to check EH bandwidth (excluding Maven), but CloudFlare is giving me HTTP 429 errors on page load

void void
#

I don't want to turn this into NSFW

sharp sentinel
#

Oh wait lol these stats don't even include downloads oof

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We serve 140GB a month excluding maven or builds

#

Funnily enough 44% of requests are JSON though ๐Ÿค”

void void
#

I ran into a problem idk how to fix

#

Per World Inventory isn't switching the gamemodes when you go to Creative. :/

#

Everything I try to do to fix it is to no avail

pale river
#

I like having the server GUI by default. Showing RAM and mspt is useful.

#

MSPT is a better way of measuring performance than TPS, because you don't know how good or close to lagging your server is when it is at 20 TPS.

merry talon
#

no

#

schedule your own task a few seconds after to run /timings off

unborn nebula
trim steeple
#

oof garbage collector is triggering every few seconds

static badge
#

flags?

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player count?

trim steeple
#

4 players

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[20:14:32 INFO]: Plugins (17): BlockyLog, CoreProtect, dynmap*, Essentials, EssentialsChat, EssentialsGeoIP, EssentialsSpawn, GriefPrevention, GriefPreventionDynmap*, HeadsPlus, HoneyPopulator, LuckPerms, NerfPhantoms, SmoothSleep, SmoothTimber, Vault, WorldEdit

snow flint
trim steeple
#

"C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_231\bin\java.exe" -Xms1G -Xmx2G -jar paper-65.jar -o true

pulsar wigeon
#

.flags

limber knotBOT
sullen iron
#

Pack it up

merry talon
#

is there no HTTP header used to specify how long the requester should expect the same resource to be available?

cosmic raft
#

X-You-Should-Expect-This-To-Be-Available-Until

void void
#

Who's Taylor?

#

My name is Andrew, btw.

limber knotBOT
#

slaps kashike around a bit with a large trout

#

Sweepyoface: :)

#

Sweepyoface: what kind of pizza do you get

sullen iron
#

Ah, Pirch. The nostalgia...

merry talon
#

what kind would I get if I had a choice of any pizza?

#

i dont understand the question

limber knotBOT
#

yes

merry talon
#

if I don't have to pay for it; pizza hut

#

if I'm paying for it; grocery store frozen aisle

#

:D

limber knotBOT
#

what kind though

#

pepperoni? etc

sullen iron
limber knotBOT
#

die

sullen iron
#

Bot?

limber knotBOT
#

How about kiwi and pineapple? =D

#

beep boop

sullen iron
#

lol. Uppity bot

pseudo moth
#

Huh, it does claim I'm a bot. Interesting.

sullen iron
#

I was about to threaten replacement with a very small shell script

merry talon
#

yes pepperoni

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sometimes bacon is acceptable

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If it's done right

#

but never, ever pineapple

sullen iron
#

or kiwi?

merry talon
#

no fruit is acceptable

void void
#

Or is that just a wierd thing I do? lol

sullen iron
#

yeah

sand vale
#

just you

sullen iron
#

mumbo

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) I made a Walking House in Minecraft 1.14 - length 10m 23s - 381,203 likes, 7,629 dislikes (98.0%) - 9,773,011 views - Mumbo Jumbo on 2019.06.11

static badge
#

mfw slime blocks

void void
#

its actually really dumb, that video

static badge
#

ugh how much trouble have those things caused

mortal zinc
#

@static badge

#

btw

#

that time we talked a few days ago about the benchmark stuff

#

remember when you said it would be difficult?

static badge
#

quote me

#

I don't

mortal zinc
#

let me see

static badge
#

literally what was it about

mortal zinc
#

comparing paper vs spigot vs craftbukkit

#

i figure lump in vanilla too

sullen iron
#

slime block machines got way more obnoxious with the introduction of honey blocks

void void
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vector u dum fuk its trying to autocomplete it for you but you screenshot it and got mad bc wrong results

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press your name and youll get the results you wanted

mortal zinc
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yeah

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well that's good to know

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uh huh and you know I'm not the only person to say that'd be difficult

void void
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anyway this calc class should be fun. required $140 subscription to online math website where all the homework problems are

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and "we prob wont use the book lol so if you bought it :/ try to return it :///"

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mortal zinc
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difficult coming up with what you'd need to do to benchmark in the first place?

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i'd imagine that's the biggest hurdle

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if something such as what i mentioned is difficult, that would mean pulling it off would make a great payoff, and something that would be more convincing than, say "Paper is much better than Spigot in performance!"

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spigot could destroy us in some situations given the "stop ticking shit" patch

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also like server workloads

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how tf u emulate a survival surver

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server

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fuck me

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cat what fucking disease did you bring upon me

mortal zinc
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right, and expecting the same outcome across different server builds isn't reliable

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sheesh, am i jumping into a rabbit hole, because i'd rather go elsewhere if this'll turn into chasing my tail

crystal compass
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bro

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copy and pasted a String

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and you make & check for that string

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and it isnt the same

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wtf is going on

mortal zinc
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"blah" == "blah"

?

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pulsar wigeon
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dont == strings

crystal compass
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I show how I make the itemstack & how I check

mortal zinc
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i was wondering if he was doing that based on what he said

crystal compass
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lul

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I am so mind boggled

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as to how its not working

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i dont understand? which part is not working

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your equalsIgnoreCase

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?

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What is Utils.chat

crystal compass
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It literally suddenly stopped working

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3 days ago

void void
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Ok

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What is utils.chat

crystal compass
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translate code

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Thonk

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ItemStack monsterspawns

then comparing against current

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What is current

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Sorry, I figured I wouldnt copy pasta everything. It is e.getcurrentitem() on InventoryClickEvent

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and I already did debug msges

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to make sure its the right inv etc etc

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i would do this

System.out.println(current.getItemMeta().getDisplayName());
System.out.println(Utils.chat("&fMonster Spawning"));

just to see what they both output