#general
vestal jasper
pulsar wigeon
just preallocate optionals
pulsar wigeon
lol
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rolled
vestal jasper
O discord being retarded ok
pulsar wigeon
let matthew deal with that shit anyway
sk didnt deal with it either
youtrack license expired every year and we had to wait 2 weeks for him to renew it :^)
vestal jasper
So when did you guys join and sk leave
pulsar wigeon
ive been around since the beginning pretty much
vestal jasper
Nice
pulsar wigeon
matthew started doing craftbook early on but wasnt active with we/wg til 1.13
cuz when 1.13 hit i had no interest and was playing other games
vestal jasper
Understandable
vestal jasper
Why
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the first list should be an array
this.b = (List) IntStream.range(0, ChunkTaskQueue.a).mapToObj((j) -> {
return new Long2ObjectLinkedOpenHashMap();
}).collect(Collectors.toList());
At least it's fastutils it's practically o(n)
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public static final int a = PlayerChunkMap.GOLDEN_TICKET + 2;
vestal jasper
:^)
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but welcome to functional garbage
woven otter
good one
vestal jasper
Not functional when watchdog triggers when you have 3 people on
lime cove
vestal jasper
No
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yes
vestal jasper
Mfw
woven otter
https://pastie.io/fkfcql.cs#L12
can someone explain why does it check if bungeecord mode is enabled 🤔
vestal jasper
Because of your formatting. 
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something about server is actually offline since bungee does auth etc
idk bungee shit that's a cat question
vestal jasper
I impulsively fix formatting I paste in
floral mesa
I believe its to check for the actual UUID
something with bungeecord mucking with auth
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obviously
split marlin
woven otter
is it me or you can choose a filename for spigot or paper config files
turbid birch
upper flicker
Pretty sure you can with the runtime argument yeah
Not really tried it though, never seen anyone do it
zenith hazel
void void
ayy who here is knowledgable about sponge's ore platform? can i resize the icon using params or is there no support for that? (https://ore.spongepowered.org/<author>/<plugin>/icon)
wraith pivot
pulsar wigeon
best asking them
there's literally a channel dedicated to ore on the sponge discord
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hear it's a goldmine over there
pulsar wigeon
leaf if you make that joke one more time today
woven otter
.rekt
limber knotBOT
upper flicker
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me_irl
celest coyote
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wat
wide citrus
does paper have multi-core optimizations?
void void
cosmic raft
@celest coyote why the fuck would someone name a baby north
upper flicker
In the parents defense, they are both morons
queen rapids
in the parents defense, their last name is west
cosmic raft
the parents are also dumb as bricks
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ur a brick tbh
pulsar wigeon
someone fork concrete and just call it brick
and just brick the machine it runs on
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limber knotBOT
void void
pulsar wigeon
is that trying to say that it's pausing 6 seconds for gc?
if so, bad
don't really understand what it's counting tho
i guess young gen ran twice 5ms and 4ms, and then oldgen ran for 6s?
within that one tick
safe arch
vestal jasper
.flags
languid cypress
Moving my convo to #paper-help
limber knotBOT
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languid cypress
I have those already it doesn't look like it does anything with serial/parallel/concurrent settings for gc threads
woven otter
hi magma
limber knotBOT
how do you know whether you-re developing carpal tunnel
limber knotBOT
mine sort of feels like DOMS but only for my hand
Hibernate can, yes
But like, it's never what you really want to do
Adding new fields is save, the rest I would be very coutious
that's some very good typing there MiniDigger
simpleauthority ^
woven otter
hmm why aren't my breakpoints working in paper-api 🤔
limber knotBOT
Shut up magma, let professionals talk 😂
i mean, meh. is it safe enough to just go maintenance mode, take db backup, do the migration manual, then start up app with the needed entity class changes?
bc, if so, i'd really rather not try to fuck around with migration code like flyway or something stupid
however im not really sure what the exact table structure it expects for its mapping annotations 
or do you let it ddl auto on first run to get db ready, then set it none
woven otter
someone share your run configurations for paper pls
olive garden
what are you trying to do? are you running the paper jar from the IDE?
limber knotBOT
I guess it's save to let hibernate do its thing if you backup and stuff
i mean im trying to figure out the easiest way tbh, because i need to use an Entity but I don't really know exactly how that entity should look if I'm writing the SQL myself
I guess if I @OneToMany another entity inside, it expects a standard foreign key on the other item pointing at a field in this entity.
im asking you bc ur a spring dude
so
HELP NOOB
thx
woven otter
@olive garden yea
olive garden
I have never done that, so I'm afraid I can't help you
limber knotBOT
i can hardly understand this https://youtu.be/w12DsiqpxEg
(simpleauthority) Spring Boot Database Migrations with Flyway -Example | Java Techie - length 14m 2s - 77 likes, 2 dislikes (97.5%) - 3,794 views - Java Techie on 2019.03.04
golden gust
Flyway is ❤️
limber knotBOT
how do you keep your jpa entity in sync when you make a change
i dont know these annotations n shet it wants
and how it translates to the sql id write with flyway
golden gust
I would imagine that you would just update your entities to match the layout after your changes
flyway runs the commands to deal with migration of the format and stuff
limber knotBOT
yea but what kind of 'layout' does JPA expect, given a db with a say a user_profile table that has a foreign key on a user_id pointing at a user table
hypothetically if i added that
hmm ok couldnt really understand vid but i can understand the shit he wrote
and good man put it on github
so ill try it
limber knotBOT
I kinda wanted to write my own simple version of data fixer upper
To handle that shit
But like, I never got anywhere
sharp sentinel
Some guy wearing full ghostbusters costume just sang the ghostbusters theme at this bar I’m at 🤔
limber knotBOT
Madlad
void void
MiniDigger, what's the best way to check if save() on a crud repository is resulting in a unique constraint violation
im currently catching DataIntegrityViolationException, casting its cause to JDBCException, called getSQLException on that, and literally checking the SQLState for 23000
It's...
Not beautiful.
plus ill have to hardcode other switch branches for other random errors
limber knotBOT
No clue
void void
sweet
limber knotBOT
I don't do much db stuff
void void
wow ur not spring lord at all r u
limber knotBOT
I just invoke a Microservice that invokes 10 other microservices that then do db shit
Or worse, cobol shit
golden gust
nou
heady spear
Lol simple doesn’t know how to do anything
golden gust
dats y people say he's simple
void void
well, we did get sponge banners today
https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/sponge/auction/banner.png
thanks to ore, it's less ugly
(as compared to https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/spigot/1177/banner.png)
HAH @heady spear is that 4 stars I see
woven otter
simple knows how to do simple stuff
heady spear
Do u have author banners yet
void void
for sponge?
void void
heady spear
That’s very off tho
heady spear
PlotSquared has 300k downloads and FAWE has over 100k
void void
mm might be a logic error in the counting code, @fallen oracle wrote it :^)
heady spear
Is spiget just super outdated or something
void void
could be, or there's a problem
heady spear
It doesn’t seem to have all resources either
void void
or i bet spiget isnt sending all the resources to us
golden gust
inb4 spiget got blocked
void void
first they were sending too many now they're not sending enough
void void
yeah spiget is seemingly only giving 3 resources
maybe there is a param hold on
nope
there is but it doesnt seem to be working
sweet
heady spear
Nice
sharp sentinel
So I’m now scheduled to sing a Taylor Swift song on a karaoke machine lol
You Belong with Me to be specific
woven otter
make some waves
void void
sounds fun @sharp sentinel dont fuck it up
errant crypt
sharp sentinel
I mean that’s the plan 😂
granite salmon
1000tps
woven otter
why would you care about hytales tick rate anyway
dusk drift
Interested what they went with
limber knotBOT
what makes you think that any of this is final?
woven otter
you assume it's a real product /s
granite salmon
it will take longer to release than dyescape
limber knotBOT
thats for sure
quasi valley
2021
wide chasm
How long has Dyescape been WIP now?
quasi valley
golden gust
Since the beginning of time itself
Dienns sole purpose for birth was to bring dyescape to the world
wide chasm
Well if it's been that long I expect it to have released by now, I'm gonna file a complaint.
golden gust
I think it's just a scam to try to create the largest discord
Tryna set a record for the most amount of people in a server waiting around for something
limber knotBOT
see, I would create hype about the announcement I wrote with dennis yesterday
but its pretty boring 😂
wtf is happening, the bf of my best friend is trying to get me to come to them later, the first time he messaged me in like half a year. thats after I said no to her
hes called dennis too, so thats relevant to this convo
dusk drift
Minecraft is literally killing its self on Java with its performance
limber knotBOT
the Hytale server will be in Java as well lol
dusk drift
Shit like the pillagers and chunk shit shouldnt happen on such a large project, doesn't matter about notches shit code
granite salmon
That’s the idea
dusk drift
I bet my life hytale will be more performant than java edition
limber knotBOT
ahh thought you ment "because of Java" not "Java edition"
yes Java edition is shitting itself indeed 😂
golden gust
Me2
limber knotBOT
ur ded again?
golden gust
implying there exists a time when I'm not dead
Got an appointment in a few hours at the doctors \o/
void void
edgy
limber knotBOT
british*
limber knotBOT
just throw some apples at the doctor and see them running away in fear, cat
limber knotBOT
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told ya
void void
but tbh i think you need a certain amount of java skill to appreciate how it helps, it would make me feel sad to see a noob java dev using spring and then not knowing how to do those things himself or with a less helpful framework
limber knotBOT
I certainly wouldn't know how do fuck around with rest servers without spring/retrofit/.. :aaa:
.. or it'd just be a hell of a lot uglier
void void
new spring proj, add spring web, go to src folder, add new class called MyController.class
@RestController
public void MyController {
@RequestMapping("/") public String index() { return "Hello world"; }
}
run. done. lul
oh you said without
im too high for this
limber knotBOT
yeah 😂
heady spear
limber knotBOT
you prolly want to use GetMapping, not RequestMapping
heady spear
This is cool. I like crystal, it’s fun to use
limber knotBOT
does somebody know why my field isnt working?
like, I even registered the component FieldHandler globally
but for some reason it doesnt work recursively here
components: { "field-handler": FieldHandler }, fixed it
vue is stupid sometimes
void void
golden gust
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ reQt
craggy condor
limber knotBOT
god save SO
"In summary, this does not look like an issue with Vue.js, but a webpack / es6 limitation based on current info. I may be wrong, please keep exploring further!"
fuck webpack
pulsar wigeon
fuck js frameworks in general
pulsar wigeon
😊 didnt know you felt that way mini
limber knotBOT
its just the JS tooling thats killing me
stares at his node_modules folder
states at his gigantic webpack config
cosmic raft
and home from work again today
it feels like I'm going to pass out when I stand up and sit up
this is wonderful
cosmic raft
I feel like I'm going to hit the floor
dapper nacelle
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could be dead
dapper nacelle
hm.. do controllers in spring always return Strings?
golden gust
They return what you want them to return
dapper nacelle
in Symfony its different
golden gust
e.g. can return a RequestBody or something like that iirc
dapper nacelle
in Symfony you always return a Response
there are shortcut methods like $this->json(["some", "json", "array"])
golden gust
Honestly not used spring in a while, or done much for that matter, tbh
dapper nacelle
does Spring have ORM?
golden gust
But, it uses jackson and stuff, so you can easily return an object and it'll throw out json for you
Yes
golden gust
Not really used their mvc stuff, it's been on the todo list, but pretty sure they support twig
dapper nacelle
I noticed the Paper site using Twig
cosmic raft
JTwig, yes
golden gust
(if anybody has some good material for UI stuff with spring, lmk; I'll bookmark it for when I can)
dapper nacelle
can you create your own twig functions?
cosmic raft
yes
limber knotBOT
ok so I actually have a programming question
pulsar wigeon
ah yes, cat's list of things to do when he rises from the grave
dapper nacelle
lazy loading?
not sure if that's actually needed in java
for PHP its a must have
since for every request to the server all the code is interpreted all over again
limber knotBOT
I have a cancelable event that is built on top of a damage event, is there an easy way to cancel both my event and the underlying event through the .cancel() method invocation?
golden gust
phpfpm can cache compiled php iirc
dapper nacelle
PHP will have a JIT in the future
cosmic raft
Pass the parent event to the child event and call cancel on it too, magna
dapper nacelle
if they clean up the STL it would be a very good language
peak dirge
php
would be a very good language
you wish
dapper nacelle
My school forced me to learn PHP
golden gust
php is okay
Like, It gets a lot more flack then it deserves these days cos it was a fucking abomination
cosmic raft
Korobi's site is powered by PHP
golden gust
These days it's just a clusterfuck of legacy messes, but; "it works"
dapper nacelle
I'd wish I learnt Spring Boot at school
but its rather similar to how the PHP framework Symfony works
so it will take me like 2h to learn Spring
peak dirge
Can't decide what's more evil: Spring or PHP
golden gust
I gotta decide what I wanna use as a front-end for my uni project \o/
cosmic raft
use wordpress
golden gust
oh god
dapper nacelle
lol
peak dirge
We're redoing our server's web store. I wanted to use Svelte, but it looks like we're going to get React instead. Which is fine.
golden gust
See, I was toying with node.js stuff a good while back, and it was okay, I guess
I fucking love scss and jade
Or pug I think it's called now
Don't think I've done anything with twig but that looked okay too
cosmic raft
@golden gust https://github.com/korobi/Web/blob/master/src/Korobi/WebBundle/Resources/assets/sass/application/irc/_base.scss
scss is great
dapper nacelle
one thing I should learn someday is websockets
craggy condor
golden gust
waterfall is to bungee as paper is to spigot
golden gust
dapper nacelle
you never heard of either?
golden gust
Waterfall is a dev cycle thingy
void void
we've talked about this before.
void void
its been a conversation like 15 times now
dapper nacelle
yeah he sure is simple
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is it a waterfall because it's falling
pulsar wigeon
what retard are we talking to today
i always feel like the crew of the mystery van with these blocked users
unmasking the villain
pulls off mask "oh it was just some retard all along"
void void
cat i took 7 dabs and drank a cbd sleep drink and im sitting here dehydrated as fuck and i want ice cream
golden gust
says it all, really
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cbd?
pulsar wigeon
weed oil
void void
the goods of the weeds without the high
golden gust
basically, the non-psychoactive part of weed
pulsar wigeon
yea
golden gust
Basically: pointless
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void void
it does relieve pain tho, i am buzzing
but also i took 7 dabs
so idk which im feeling
tbh
pulsar wigeon
imagine wanting the medicinal part of a plant that gets you high without getting high
pulsar wigeon
u should get high on a cliff
dapper nacelle
0_o
pulsar wigeon
and then get low quickly
cosmic raft
what was that song called
limber knotBOT
you should get high because that'll be the highlight of your entire life
cosmic raft
.yt high for this kygo
limber knotBOT
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cosmic raft
there it is
limber knotBOT
I'm already high enough
limber knotBOT
hey, highest runs after high right?
sturdy crystal
pulsar wigeon
magma being able to see your nose at all times doesn't mean you're high
it means you're fugly
wide chasm
Yes, highest runs after high
limber knotBOT
hi it's me ur doc for $5 I'll write nice recommendation letter
well then wwhy is this trolling me by running i nthe wrong order
yeah this is 100% running after
@dapper nacelle you can use whatever templating engine you want with spring
wtf
dapper nacelle
which engine do you recommend?
limber knotBOT
I really just want to quit now
so this only works in the right order when my first event is in normal and my second event is in highest
the kinda default is thymeleaf, which is incredibly powerful (you can basically write Java in them), but its also slow
what kind of nonsense is this
really depends on what you want
I like easy text based ones like handlebars
dapper nacelle
I only really used twig before
limber knotBOT
like how is that even supposed to work
I have a history of headaches but how can they prove in the new year that I had a headache today
a note is dumb
olive garden
new year is just a social construct
limber knotBOT
prison is just a social construct
and now being asked if I can come in in the afternoon even when I'm staying home because I'm sick
I want a new job :/
what's your job kash?
I sort packages in a warehouse and similar things.
I don't like it.
who does?
I did.
you liked sorting packages in a warehouse and similar things?
do you have a tetris fetish?
is that your main gig? or just an on the side thing?
dapper nacelle
pseudo haven
based
wispy crescent
woven otter
Upsidedown kenny
limber knotBOT
duck duck
pokes KennyTV
that's weird
eats Vertanzil
do entity damage events still fire when a player blocks an arrow with a shield?
I know but if we ignore him ^-^ he might go away.
is that actually supposed to do that?
Yea because its still trying to damage the player
can you uncancel it? lol
or is the shield damage prevented when cancelling
limber knotBOT
did you throw an apple into their face like I suggested?
golden gust
Not yet
woven otter
u are boring
limber knotBOT
You are a duck
golden gust
.g Monty python witch test
limber knotBOT
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I think Vertanzil is a witch
he talks about brooms suspicously often
Brooms are <3
hits Vertanzil with a broom
limber knotBOT
takes 🦆 stuffs it into the rectum of KennyTV and burns them both.
ducks are jesus?
wow now you overcooked my dinner
wide chasm
No, Jesus was a duck.
woven otter
yes ducks turn water into wine
limber knotBOT
are you not streaming tonight ^-^
wide chasm
Hey
limber knotBOT
I find it impressive that a few people down the street I saw setting off fireworks at like 2 pm are now again (or still??) doing that
like, did they just buy way too fucking many fireworks
woven otter
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/worldeditsui-visualize-your-selection.60726/
Didn't know this exists and you made it Kenny
woven otter
maintenance plugin?
limber knotBOT
let me try something
.g spigot maintenance plugin
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ohh up top
pulsar wigeon
they are both gross upsidedown plugins
i should make WE turn everything upside down if it detects SUI
woven otter
*upside down plugins
limber knotBOT
wow upsidedownist
whore
this fancy "super secret settings" thing doesnt exist anymore does it?
pulsar wigeon
iirc at some point the menu item was removed
but it was still possible to toggle the settings with a mod
unsure if the code for them exists at all anymore tho
limber knotBOT
I'll just make a mod that does nothing but enable the upside down setting lmao
mellow raven
void void
fallen jungle
This place just keeps on growing
How can I see how many people there are in total?
pulsar wigeon
6268
fallen jungle
You didn't just scroll over all 2181 online members to see the number of people offline did you?
There must be a way to see member count that I'm just not aware of
pulsar wigeon
no
lol
i manually counted each person
just to make sure the headers were correct
pulsar wigeon
scrolling all the way wouldn't be too hard tho
fallen jungle
No wonder it took you so long
pulsar wigeon
there's a thumbtrack you can drag
fallen jungle
there is, but it stops loading the profiles at some point for some reason
limber knotBOT
pokes wiz in the eye
pulsar wigeon
it just shows placeholders while things load
woven otter
duck what duck
pulsar wigeon
ur last
limber knotBOT
pokes 🦆
void void
use unicode space
cosmic raft
gotta love LSL
//// Get string until first whitespace
string firstof(string str) {
return llList2String(llParseString2List(str, [" "], []), 0);
}
leftover support language?
woven otter
least sexy language
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
Lemons smell Lovely
cosmic raft
Linden Scripting Language :P
woven otter
Lvertanzil Sucks Lverymuch
woven otter
u hump things u sicco
limber knotBOT
Ducks are my favorite
woven otter
ur not
limber knotBOT
is there a way to flip vertically in worldedit?
/deform rotate(x,x,90)
Double /
woven otter
//flip U ?
limber knotBOT
flips 🦆
unreal quarry
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
limber knotBOT
deform doesn't work
woven otter
Billy
woven otter
now you can sing "forever in debt to your priceless advice"
upper flicker
🦆 🍲
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😋
woven otter
🌮 🍲
limber knotBOT
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QUACK
anyone have any suggestions on splitting out a regular paper server into a waterfall configuration?
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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cedar spade
toss the paper into the river upstream
it'll find its way down into the waterfall eventually
woven otter
Vertanzil QUACK QUACK
woven otter
mock mini
woven otter
cosmic raft
@golden gust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Rp_0hoNTY
limber knotBOT
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woven otter
MARINA
cosmic raft
yes :)
woven otter
she has awesome songs
void void
heady spear
I’ve a fever feel bad for me
limber knotBOT
no
heady spear
Fuck u 😦
limber knotBOT
die queitly
heady spear
I’ll scream u bitch
limber knotBOT
Scream like the litle bitch you are
heady spear
Ur turning me on
limber knotBOT
you dont need to get any hotter
heady spear
I wonder how long it’ll take before I start writing 2020 instead of 2019
I’ll mistakenly write 2019 for at least the first two months
limber knotBOT
I don't even write dates anymore
heady spear
You’d never get a date
woven otter
wow city u r rude
sinful adder
mellow raven
limber knotBOT
latent valve
Hey!!! 1.13.2 still betta than 1.14 :p
Dont talk shit abt 1.13 or else i will send anti-furry squad to hunt ya leaf
upper flicker
I mean I guess it'd be a bug
I know we did some simple stuff moving around world gen init for custom gens in 1.14
but I thought he was using the vanilla one
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Bukkit.createWorld(new WorldCreator("%arg-1%")).environment(Environment.NORMAL))
probably vanilla
whatever the fuck %arg-1% means
upper flicker
yeah I dont know then I guess
static badge
is the init even called after the spawn chunks or something
idk don't have 1.13 src
celest coyote
do we have paperchunk info in 1.13
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no that's 1.14
only added that shit to help debug chunk issues
and the current chunk system in 1.13 doesn't have "ticking" status type stuff
golden gust
I mean, I dun get what they're tryna say
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"performance loss"
heady spear
Happy Easter my dudes
swift geode
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ho ho ho ho ho ho ho hi hi hi hi hi hi hi he he he
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leaf your people are here
limber knotBOT
*eats Z750 *
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what
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a damning indictment of how little progress intel has made in the last several years
peak dirge
Zen 3 is going to pretty much eliminate the limited edge Intel has in gaming.
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nvidia needs the same treatment 
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giv tacs pls
celest coyote
rumors say next year ryzen is gunna be a bigger boost from 1000 to 3000
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we'll see
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competition good
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yes competition good
peak dirge
I heard that AMD has managed to pack 8 cores into each CCX, which for all practical intents and purposes means that the latency advantage Intel once enjoyed in gaming is pretty much eliminated for most people
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8
peak dirge
And hey, we'll see the Epyc processors popping 128 cores not before too long
I know Linus would drool over that shit
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linus torvalds
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flip flops or nvidia finger
peak dirge
I'm sorry, Linus Sebastian.
fallen oracle
Lol
woven otter
happy new year for UTC+2
celest coyote
can't wait to compile mc in 1 second
peak dirge
Though AMD is going to hold off on adding more cores, because software hasn't caught up yet.
upper flicker
thats fine Ill take what they're giving us now
peak dirge
AMD's mobile efforts are a backwater still, but once Zen 2 arrives on mobile, I think things will improve for them on mobile.
upper flicker
still rocking a 4 core cpu over here
very overclocked but still
really feeling the need for cores
peak dirge
I went from my iMac with 4 cores/4 threads to my Ryzen 5 3600 with 6 cores/12 threads and I very much enjoy the extra cores
celest coyote
my phone literally stopped playing audio a few days ago
if I try to make calls the entire UI crashes
peak dirge
My Samsung phone gave up the ghost this summer. I went and bought an iPhone instead...
RIP shitty phone September 2017 - June 2019
celest coyote
im tempted to get a lenovo e495 since its on sale rn
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.g lenovo e495
limber knotBOT
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swift geode
MyAngelAku SekundäraccountToday at 8:09 PM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ho ho ho ho ho ho ho hi hi hi hi hi hi hi he he he
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what are you going on about
upper flicker
you could at least not include the date copy pasta in your spam man
peak dirge
I'm torn between getting a ThinkPad or a MacBook Pro. The ThinkPad appeals to me because I can run Linux on it, but the MacBook Pro appeals to me because I'm not a true hipster until I've got a MacBook Pro.
upper flicker
thats a great site youve got there lenovo
I got a mbp last time when my linux laptop died
mostly just because I never had one and I decided I needed to try it once
I quite like it
thinkpad would probably be close behind it though
peak dirge
Right now I have an Asus VivoBook F510UA, and it's shit.
upper flicker
no one ignores the googs
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wtf is google duo
cosmic raft
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is it google and his waifu googla
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.lmgtfy google duo
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://is.gd/3tuNDe
peak dirge
Yeah, it runs Windows 10 (duh), Ubuntu 18.04 (actually worked out of the box!), FreeBSD (but just barely), but the processor chokes if I try to start a Minecraft server, and even the 24GB RAM and 500GB SSD I put in are not enough to really negate the fact the CPU is extremely weak.
Also, the battery life is pretty terrible (I usually get 3-4 hours at best).
upper flicker
if you want to run windows natively skip the mbp
it runs, they have drivers, its just not great
when I need it I can run it in a VM no issue but I wouldnt bother natively
peak dirge
I have a desktop and do not care if I have to virtualize Windows 10. If I truly need the native performance, my desktop has Windows 10 and I can use that.
unreal quarry
own a city? want to get rich? make people pay 21 toll roads to get in, and 21 tolls roads to get out.
lmao
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wtf
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killed so many hours in cities skylines
not quite as much as civ
but its getting there
peak dirge
The problem is that the MBP is... 💰 💰💰
limber knotBOT
Didn't the spiffing britt do something similar
peak dirge
The ThinkPad is more like 💰
graceful wyvern
ahh yes the spiffing brit method, toll city
unreal quarry
its not me lol its biffa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ujQFSkU94
limber knotBOT
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celest coyote
I wrote macbooks off after 2015
the new ones have just garbage keyboard and trackpad
peak dirge
Apparently the 2019 MBPs are much better
upper flicker
the trackpad is miles better
I carry a 2012 for work
its annoyingly bad in comparison
fallen oracle
Ahh. Does the main game have enough content to enjoy for awhile without getting all the DLCs?
celest coyote
im still using a 2015 model but it has gpu issues and damaged charger
upper flicker
I also have a 2017mbp and I know demon has a 2016(?)
we havent had the keyboard issues, its definitely shallow though
would totally pick up a 2019 if it just fell from the sky
if I sold it and then turned around and put the money into a 2019 it probably wouldnt be all that expensive
but thats a ton of work
peak dirge
If someone gave me a 2019 MBP I would use it, no questions asked. Same thing if someone gave me a ThinkPad.
graceful wyvern
im looking to upgrade from my 2015 (brought in 2016) to a 2019 16" mainly so i can get the internal gpu
upper flicker
anyway, Id likely also consider one of dell's precision laptops
which are basically just the business-y xps
you start getting into money again there
peak dirge
I could sell my 2017 Retina iMac to get about a third of the cash I'd need
upper flicker
but youre comparing with mac so its only fair
peak dirge
In fact, I'd be more than happy to move from that machine, because it's just too slow for my needs
upper flicker
the fact that they still sell imacs to this day with hard drives is mind boggling
especially with how bad apfs handles it
peak dirge
A lot of it boils down to the Fusion Drive, but the CPU also leaves something to be desired
The 2019 MBP would have a better CPU and have an SSD by default. No problems there.
celest coyote
I could get used to the trackpad but I don't think I could use the keyboard
just too shallow
upper flicker
the 2019's is deeper but its still shallow
tbh I dont have a great way to quantify it other than I got used to it
I dont really mind it now, and it I still use a mech at my desk and a crappy oem keyboard at work so idk
my work 2012 mbp does feel pretty spongey now though
still plenty usable though
I think its more of a stability thing
doesnt feel as stable as they go down, but other keyboards dont have that issue
I think its a known thing with that era mbp
I do love that laptop for work work though, no dongles
dont mind so much on my personal one as Im not plugging in random shit all the time
wish it had hdmi like the 2015mbp but then I'd lose the ethernet port
damn you apple
fallen jungle
Happy new year
golden gust
tbh, I just bought a cheap dongle for hdmi
Woulda been nice if it had a HDMI port, but the dongles are so cheap that it's not really a major kick in the teeth
upper flicker
on my personal stuff I just moved stuff over to usbc and it was a non-issue
golden gust
Right now I'm using that dongle to plug a second display into my iMac
upper flicker
I have a dongle for when I travel but I dont use it much
at work though its not like I can say "hey yeah replace this whole setup it doesnt work on my macbook pro"
this isnt san francisco, that level of hipster bullshit wont fly
golden gust
I mean, you just gotta start growing a beard and going starbucks all the time
Soon they'll expect it from you
fwiw, I literally just spent the last 5 minutes tryna find my wire cutters
There where like, a rulers length away from where i was looking
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this is why a carry a pocket knife with pliers and a screwdriver built in
idk if you can get the license for that over there though
golden gust
lol
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yeah cheap jab but funny
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yes
cosmic raft
I like my little Samsung portable SSD - came with USB-C->USB-C and USB-C->USB-A cables
golden gust
Kinda wanna get a pocket knife, tbh; only fear was that I'dlose the damned thing
twin lagoon
sigh
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they should just sell them with SSDs
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only hdds?
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they're apple, they already charge a premium
golden gust
Well, it's actually not a true SSHD
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even better
golden gust
as in, there is literally a SSD in there along with the HDD
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SSHD? shit tier hard drive?
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weird
don't most regular harddrives these days have a cache
really makes me wonder if a bigger cache is worth it
golden gust
Not exactly a cache
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its not like 16G or 50G
golden gust
I mean, it is
golden gust
But it's not like your typical dram type cache, it's basically a small SSD inside the HDD
upper flicker
well the idea is frequently used stuff like your OS sits on the cache
and its all self contained
since no one will ever set that up themselves that you care about as an OEM
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but like with an ssd you just put your os on it
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yeah and most people cant find stuff if its not in their documents folder
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hm good enough
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the latest versions of macos require apfs which isnt great for spinning disks
because the metadata isnt in the first xyz whatever sectors where a spinner could easily get to it
its just interspersed with files all over the disk
not an issue on an ssd, kind of an issue on an hdd
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am I reading this right, apfs is apple's file system
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and they didn't optimise it for hdds and they use them?
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directory listing is significantly slower under apfs than hfs+ on spinners
among other things
you betcha
they originally billed it as "ssd optimized"
then they made it the default like two years later apparently without changing it
and its great on an ssd but it is def slower on a spinner
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weird
mossy vessel
ancient bolt
I applied for the wrong apartment number
so I cancelled my application
went to submit another one
now it won't let me submit any applications
what a shitty website
merry talon
@cosmic raft I was looking at reviews for those things and read that they aren't all that fast after the cache
it's not a traditional ssd
cosmic raft
mine has been fast enough, i just didn't want another portable hdd
they die so easily
merry talon
yeah better than that for sure
also they're fucking tiny
I never realized until I saw one on a store display
ancient bolt
wait I didn't realize you could still buy a mac with a spinny disk
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all the eu fuckers
queen rapids
yea
was going to buy a new imac but the base model still had a spinny desk so im holding off for next year
celest coyote
woven otter
is it still 2019 in leafland
void void
merry talon
Other manufacturers do this too
I.e. a 240g ssd boot drive and a 1TB HDD
with a 2080ti and 9900k starting at $3499
no reason to not go all NVMe over like $1k
devout gorge
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I just swiped an intel nvme SSD and bought a usb c enclosure because it was on sale
unreal quarry
I wish my bike would go on sale. It's still $10k
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Gonna trade one in or expand the collection?
unreal quarry
Probably trade in to lower cost. Not like I'd ride the r3 when there's a zx6r next to it ;)
Actually, I think I'm going to strip down some of my mods on the r3 and sell it private sector
limber knotBOT
Happy new year everyoen
woven otter
Happy new year
sleek trail
limber knotBOT
america always was a bit of a backwards place
no universal healthcare, randos can have guns, they have trump for a presiden
t
granite salmon
👀
wide chasm
I've learned from English literature that you should blame the American dream for that.
limber knotBOT
MANIFEST DESTINY
so you're both wrong
I just almost died
only almost? shame
imagine how great of a way to start 2020 that'd be
:*
woven otter
is that smoke
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what's the video showing
woven otter
smoke
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a lotta smoke yeah
quasi valley
My place had a lot less fireworks but a lot more smoke
woven otter
smog
quasi valley
You’re smog
limber knotBOT
Nah, not near a city
woven otter
you're upside down
granite salmon
Mini in australian fires
limber knotBOT
Na, Autobahn
granite salmon
Mini thy death hath been prepared
Ngl
it is quite sad
if someone dies on 1st
but it does happen
quasi valley
People driving their car around the new year are lunatics
granite salmon
Lol weak
quasi valley
I would if I could ngl
quasi valley
Our neighbors really love fireworks and all the loud things especially
deft pawn
cosmic raft
You almost died because of fog? Was there a neurotoxin in it?
woven otter
it's german fog
cosmic raft
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granite salmon
i never seen such thicc fog
limber knotBOT
I question your music choices, MiniDigger.
quasi valley
Sido 
void void
quasi valley
Nothing objectively, just far off my own taste 😂
limber knotBOT
It's like the only German rap I listen too
To*
But yeah, my taste is all over the place, from German rap, pop, to stuff like greenday and linking park, Eminem and some deadmau5, Van Buren to Skrillex, I got it all
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woven otter
good one bot
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poggers bot
limber knotBOT
MiniDigger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES7gg_39OZo
enjoy
(kashike) Звонкий - Голоса - length 3m 30s - 123,464 likes, 5,853 dislikes (95.5%) - 26,489,470 views - Velvet Music on 2018.12.04
slim stag
limber knotBOT
I do t listen to music I don't understand
tropic flame
sage kettle
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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tropic flame
That's a nice song, kashike
cosmic raft
@tropic flame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIriwVhRPVA
limber knotBOT
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woven otter
mikro that jabel thing is nice
pulsar wigeon
what's in 9 that it compiles down to 8?
9 is so old now i dont remember what it had
besides jigsaw
pulsar wigeon
r u fukin new here
limber knotBOT
urgh
limber knotBOT
I need to guarantee a spawn on a chunk I'm manually loading
do I have to listen to it actually fucking loading
limber knotBOT
not sure of what you mean by that but by the tone of what you're saying I'm getting the feeling the answer to my question is yes
can I just point out how retarded that is
pulsar wigeon
ie it is still loaded on another thread but if you call something that requires the chunk MT it will block til that async thread is done and the chunk is ready
what, how retarded you are?
limber knotBOT
well I'm calling a spawn and seemingly that doesn't call a chunk load when you ask it to spawn in an unloaded chunk
so fuck me I guess
also how is it 2:30 am already
limber knotBOT
yeah sure doesn't matter
pulsar wigeon
idk, call getChunk
limber knotBOT
it'd still get it in async numbnuts
pulsar wigeon
getChunkAt(x,z) blocks and returns the completed chunk
there's getChunkAtAsync that returns a future
limber knotBOT
hey uh when you say blocks does that mean the code after it only ever runs once it's completed?
cosmic raft
no he means that tacos sing
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spawn calls should load chunks in 1.15
limber knotBOT
brah that's literally the first thing I tried and it doesn0t work
limber knotBOT
sure but at least I'm not paying for my next coffee
woven otter
wiz yes
pulsar wigeon
yea it probably does leaf
limber knotBOT
spawnLocation.getChunk() my code runs after that
pulsar wigeon
he's just fuking it up
limber knotBOT
read 'em and weep https://i.imgur.com/TdhJQSw.png
pulsar wigeon
doesnt .load() force load lol
ie add a ticket that sticks
or was that just load on world
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and does that add the entity to the world
limber knotBOT
if you're talking about my code yeah