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acoustic pilot
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Calling an election dissolves the current parliament, I believe

void void
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build tool? ๐Ÿ˜ NO MAVEN! Angery ONLY GRADLE! Angery

acoustic pilot
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And it would put the election at a date that is disadvantageous for a EU deal

upper flicker
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its kinda something that only makes sense within their system

static badge
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need our resident tea drinker

acoustic pilot
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Boris is trying to force a hard-Brexit

upper flicker
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in the US, being able to casually trigger new general elections whenever would be super weird

acoustic pilot
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The EU is open to making a deal, so are MPs

upper flicker
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you also cant casually close the congressional body in the US

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but again, different systems

acoustic pilot
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If they can get secure Brexit delay, I think they'll go for a general election.

limber knotBOT
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Hi tea drinker here

upper flicker
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tbh Im about 95% sure even as someone literally an ocean away, the only reason they didn't put the brexit vote back up to the populace is they'd know they'd lose

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thats certainly what it seems like

acoustic pilot
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It'd be interesting what a second referendum would even look like

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Because yes/no is really vague.

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Next one, if there is a next one, would have to be more specific.

upper flicker
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there wont be another one with the conservatives in power

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so it'd have to be after a general afaik

limber knotBOT
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How can I help you @SpottedChonk

acoustic pilot
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Conservatives don't have a majority right now.

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Boris fucked that up.

upper flicker
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yeah but they cant force a new referendum with the slight majority they have

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afaik

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the conservatives probably hold enough without to stop it

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think it takes 2/3

limber knotBOT
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Wtf why would someone say they need me then go poof

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People these days

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you're actually irrelevant

acoustic pilot
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I don't know if Labor and the new Independents can form a majority coalition.

upper flicker
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Have a taco for the troubles Tea ๐ŸŒฎ

worn ember
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Politics get the chat going

limber knotBOT
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Thanks z

static badge
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remember the no politics rule hyperkappa

limber knotBOT
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Tacos and tea ๐Ÿต

void void
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takes away Tea's taco

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runs

upper flicker
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yeah we're gonna have to make a separate politics channel when the US shit gets going

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because thatll get spicy fast

ancient bolt
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what's paper's nexus repo url?

acoustic pilot
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I'm pretty sure though that the Independent MPs in Parliament right now won't rally behind Corbyn, though.

ancient bolt
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nvm I found it

upper flicker
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right as I go check

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smh

static badge
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how to ask a question part 0

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ask the question

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find the solution

upper flicker
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thats the right way anyway

worn ember
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:nopolitics: emoji when

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void void
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:yespolitics: emoji when, so I can spite dark

worn ember
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Don't make me kill your dog

void void
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No need

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.kill DarkEyeDragon

limber knotBOT
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smashes DarkEyeDragon's head in with a baseball bat.

void void
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Now you can't.

worn ember
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.kill ๐Ÿ•

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

void void
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That's right asshole

static badge
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wow

worn ember
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Pussy

acoustic pilot
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Labor and the 20+ conservatives who Boris booted from the party could probably get together, I'm told Ken Clarke is well respected ๐Ÿ˜›

worn ember
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.kill nokotlin

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

worn ember
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Good boy

static badge
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.kill โ™‹

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

worn ember
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.kill humanity

limber knotBOT
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gags and ties humanity then throws them off a tall building to their death.

static badge
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hey z wanna know why retarded's an adjective

worn ember
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Noun

upper flicker
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because it describes you so well?

static badge
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because Z750 is a noun

worn ember
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Get it? Cuz it sounds like nein

limber knotBOT
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Itโ€™s a verb

upper flicker
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low effort

worn ember
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Z z me rollin z hatin

static badge
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personally I think it's brilliant

upper flicker
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just going back to how well it describes you

worn ember
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that's low effort

upper flicker
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your calling that low effort

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is low effort

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that's low effort

woven otter
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u

upper flicker
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that's the lowest of effort

woven otter
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u

worn ember
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got me some nitro

woven otter
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need some nitro here

worn ember
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in fact it's so low not even ur sr is at that level

worn ember
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beat my wolfysteak

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mfw

woven otter
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ur slow

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am busy making three prs

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definitely didn't screw anything up kappa

worn ember
woven otter
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sucks

worn ember
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yes you do

woven otter
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u

static badge
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thankfully two mistakes cancelled each other out

worn ember
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thats not how it works

static badge
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it was actually

worn ember
woven otter
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but then another mistake showed up

static badge
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no it was just two that cancelled each other

woven otter
static badge
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like how two incredibly dumb braincells cancel each other out to be nothing in the end

woven otter
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is that why ur nothing

static badge
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no

woven otter
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this tbh

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.leaf

worn ember
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couldnt possibly be spam right

void void
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its not even the same email it was sent from, wat

worn ember
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ikr

dusk drift
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I mean, if you reply it just confirms ur email is active and it'll go into the spam list

worn ember
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its already in the spamlist

void void
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It's funny because spam always call you "dear" like that's a normal thing to say

dusk drift
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It is?

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idk anywhere else but UK its normal?

void void
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in endearing conversation, sure

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not in someone you're emailing for the first time

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and if you guys do that, you're fucking weirdos

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and stay away from me

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gets pm from the cat immediately after i say that

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oh boy

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"Dear X" is normal

"Hello, dear" is not

void void
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The Resident is so bad but at the same time so mesmerizing

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Doctor: touches necrotic toe
Toe: falls off
Doctor and Patient: surprised_pikachu

abstract wave
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does anyone know if eZProtector is editable? I mean, can I add plugins by their ID name on the config.yml to block them off?

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or it's just the preset ones

terse silo
limber knotBOT
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hey is there anyway i can download papermc 1.8

void void
limber knotBOT
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thanks

void void
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you will not be supported

limber knotBOT
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another question. does jdk 12 work with it?

upper flicker
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probably not

limber knotBOT
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well is there anywhere i can get jdk 8 from?

void void
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oracle

limber knotBOT
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hm

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is it required to login?

limber knotBOT
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yeah it's still asking me to login

upper flicker
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there you go

void void
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no it's not? it pops up asking you to accept the license

limber knotBOT
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alright thanks

upper flicker
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after you accept it redirects to a login

void void
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oh lol

ancient bolt
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@cosmic raft has the mcp version scheme format changed? is the mc version always appended to the date / stable version now?

upper flicker
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oracle bad

void void
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did you know? java is installed on billions of devices but they dont make it easy!

upper flicker
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The color purple causes cancer

void void
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cancer is no joke, z

limber knotBOT
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just to clarify, i need the jdk not the jre correct?

void void
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to run it you just need jre

keen dawn
limber knotBOT
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okay thanks

keen dawn
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Hey! does anyone know how to help with getting anti xray set up?

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I'm using paper Spigot

peak dirge
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Anti-xray can be enabled in the paper.yml file

void void
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It's at the bottom of that file. You just turn it on.

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Engine mode 1 = fast, but ok; Engine mode 2 = still fast, but slightly slower; and great.

keen dawn
void void
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scroll down...

keen dawn
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WAIT

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I COULD DO THAT

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ALL ALONG

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:O

void void
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what???

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scroll?

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._.

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oh my god

keen dawn
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ayyyyy

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I got it

void void
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wow

keen dawn
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Big brain moment

orchid pelican
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When you donโ€™t scroll in a configuration file with 100+ lines

worn ember
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lmao

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glad i'm no the only big brain here

static badge
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our config is too big

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too much chonk in the config

worn ember
upper flicker
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Please see our config details in chonk0.yml chonk1.yml chonk2.yml chonk3.yml through chonk524.yml

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oh btw they move around between files

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glhf

void void
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why stop at chonk524

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tbh splitting up the files per type or doc inside the yml might go pretty far

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we'd just need to do all the work to change it to whatever

upper flicker
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we could just switch to a sane config system that allows comments too

static badge
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which reminds me I do need to rewrite concrete's config

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yeah that'd work

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concrete's config is bottom tier

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per world, no default section

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i'll figure out something and then shove it down here

void void
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comments are for noobs

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would really like to auto update the comment if the config changes too

plain needle
keen dawn
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( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

wheat zephyr
plain needle
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hello!

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Could I get some help?

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I just updated from PaperSpigot 1.12 to PaperSpigot 1.12.2

limber knotBOT
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@plain needle [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

void void
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.ask

limber knotBOT
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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

plain needle
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kk

pulsar wigeon
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if you want support you should prob upgrade to 1.14 instead

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tho god wtf people were still using 1.12.0??

plain needle
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Basically, I've just upgraded from 1.12 to 1.12.2. I do plan to update to 1.14 soon, but not immediately

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our players played on 1.12

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so we continued to support it

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Basically, I now have a problem I didn't have before

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Randomly, my servers are crashing

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I have not been able to discern a pattern to the crash

keen dawn
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Need help, my server keeps crashing when I enable anti xray. (using 1.13.2 and serverminer)

plain needle
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The thread stack seems to only point inside of non-plugin code :I

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It's really really bad atm

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It's been crashing every so often

peak dirge
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Well, 1.12.2 is not supported any longer

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1.13.2 is reasonably stable, if you're willing to entertain an upgrade.

void void
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the screenshot doesnt show a crash exactly, just a big freeze

plain needle
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Well, that's kind of the problem

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the big freeze is a problem in of itself

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The freeze leads to a crash basically

void void
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does it eventually keep going or does the spigot watchdog kill it?

plain needle
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I think it gets killed

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but 15 seconds is enough time that our own crash detector safely shuts down the server

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and even if it wasn't, 15 second lag-spikes would be absolutely unacceptable

void void
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i know, i'm just pointing out that the screenshot may not show everything that's needed to get help

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since it's not the crash itself

plain needle
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Well, that's all the information I have though

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It's a "crash" because the game gets shutdown

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there is no crash stack-trace

void void
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are all the dumps showing the same trace?

plain needle
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one sec

void void
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a log snippet would be easier to deal with

plain needle
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No, it's not

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but it always points to World.java

void void
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could you get the section of the log containing all those stack traces?

plain needle
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sure

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It's like it's doing everything insanely slower

void void
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sweet pic spam

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In the future, it's in a text file in the logs folder.

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.paste just paste it...

limber knotBOT
void void
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Actually, not a bad idea to just paste it anyway.

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looks like its the initial lighting of a chunk being generated

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your server is generating new chunks right?

plain needle
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No

void void
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that's weird that it's show this then

plain needle
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hrmm

void void
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Chunk.o is only called when a new chunk hasnt been lit yet

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so it possible someone is doing something dumb like flying around at sonic speeds generating chunks?

placid thicket
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is it possible that it could be related to mass relights by a plugin like worldedit? or is that an unrelated call?

void void
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i dont know how that works with worldedit

plain needle
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We do have FAWE installed

void void
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if someone was doing edits you'd see the commands though right?

placid thicket
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world edit has a bad habit of not reporting its commands

void void
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uh... ok

plain needle
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It's not worldedit

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err

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commands

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not worldedit commands

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blame wiz kappa

plain needle
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It's way too frequent

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It's like every half hour

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every single server

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has this problem

void void
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the best answer i have is that new chunks are being lit

placid thicket
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world edit /regen when? </sarcasm>

void void
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why it's taking 25+ seconds? not sure.

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could be a lot of chunks i guess

placid thicket
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only thing that comes to mind is a massive amount of chunks, perhaps a player cannon

pulsar wigeon
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fuck you too spotted

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you fat furry

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11:31 PM] flanigomik (1.14.4#186): world edit has a bad habit of not reporting its commands
what the actual fuck are you smoking?

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you realize the server itself logs every command used, and in addition we have a logging mode that tells you exactly where and on what region each command was used?

static badge
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wtf

plain needle
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The thing is, it shouldn't be generating ANY chunks

void void
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i read the relevant code, all that's all i know

plain needle
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I'm not sure what the relevant code is :/

static badge
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pretty sure there was some dumb shit from 1.12 -> 1.13 that forced lighting to be re-calc'd on load

void void
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he's on 1.12

plain needle
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1.12 -> 1.12.2

static badge
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might've been that

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there was some bullshit somewhere something to do with 1.12

plain needle
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one sec, I'll post code that I think is relevant

pulsar wigeon
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hmmm you just made me think of jamon iberico

plain needle
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dunno what that is

pulsar wigeon
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it's ok, unrelated mostly

void void
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isnt that really expensive? what's it like

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jamon iberico is

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FUCKING DELICIOUS

pulsar wigeon
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really fucking good

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had it when i vacationed in spain

void void
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i can't find it anywhere near me, only been able to find it in spain

pulsar wigeon
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so it is less than "really" expensive since it's local

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like you could see the legs hanging up to dry in the back of the restaurant places

void void
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yea

pulsar wigeon
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shit's rad

void void
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traditional carnicerias

pulsar wigeon
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eating tapas all afternoon/evening

plain needle
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Basically, this code has been in use for a long time

pulsar wigeon
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anyway bedtime

plain needle
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It's never had any problems,

pulsar wigeon
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gl with whatever idk even

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i just saw andalucia and went on a tangent

void void
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damn now i want to go to spain

plain needle
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but something makes me think this is what's causing the crashes

void void
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europeans are lucky to have so many places close by

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right

worn ember
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We gotta deal with different languages every border we cross tho

void void
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so

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ill be fucked if that stops me from visiting other countries

worn ember
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So fuck anyone that doesn't speak my language

void void
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@plain needle maybe this realm template isnt lit or something? idk

worn ember
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Kappa

void void
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not my codebase

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@worn ember now you sound like an american

plain needle
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I'm not sure, I don't think it's really using the template atm

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there aren't any new players coming in at this hour

worn ember
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I mean we have American warheads. Might aswel be one

plain needle
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it's using existing realms

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Well, I don't actually know how this would effect existing realms

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What I've done is I've disabled realms

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if no crashes happen

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then it's likely something regarding that

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the question is... what

void void
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@worn ember theres no borders to cross here

plain needle
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nothing major has changed recently

worn ember
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Yes.

void void
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there's australia and theres ocean

worn ember
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Sounds great

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Except for the part where everything tries to kill you

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And shitty internet

void void
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yes that is pretty accurate, on the daily i'm searching my house for venemous spiders and i could die at any moment

worn ember
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Lmao

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Worst I've gotten was a harmless big spider

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Like you know. Those nasty big brown ones

void void
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Btw Kneesnap you're in the offtopic channel, if you want a channel that is by topic obligated to help you go to #paper-github

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erm

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that one

worn ember
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And those annoying stinky bugs that literally make your entire house smell like shit when you kill them

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Hate those

plain needle
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kk

worn ember
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Cuz you can't kill em x.x

shell vine
austere ivy
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I just had sabra and now I just feel good

void void
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wat

limber knotBOT
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I have a question

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is it illegal to shoot an RPG at a car at 6:30 alarm if their car alarm has been going off for 30 minutes

queen rapids
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is anyone on macos catalina by chance

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lol

void void
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yes

warm furnace
sturdy dock
shell vine
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buy some ear plugs

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best purchase

dusk drift
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I have some but they feel weird in my ears

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and I cant sleep coz of that

void void
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@MTM123#2128

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wtf phone

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@woven otter

queen rapids
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simple, can you try saving a webarchive for me? command s on a safari page, save it to desktop, then try opening it? i tried doing that for a spark profiling page but when i try to open it i get this dumb "The operation couldn't be completed. Operation not permitted" error.

void void
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worked for me

queen rapids
void void
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i did google though

queen rapids
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happens on google as well

void void
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I think you need to give Terminal the Full Disk Access permission

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Nvm mine is off and it worked

queen rapids
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NSPOSIXErrorDomain:1

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is the error code

void void
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do you have antivirus

queen rapids
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no

void void
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i have no fuckin idea then

queen rapids
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its so weird, only happening on web archives

void void
zealous knot
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31 domains tho.

void void
shell vine
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most my threats were ukraine bigeyethink

zealous knot
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Ukraine is a big threat ngl

broken cypress
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Hi know here anybody a good tutorial for auto backups and serverrestarts?

zealous knot
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A CRON task and rsync?

limber knotBOT
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I concur; a cron task to handle it should be just fine. Using EasyBackup + AutoRe like we do could also very well be possible, though, even though I'm no fan of em :p

void void
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Proxi is cute when they say they concur

limber knotBOT
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no u

void void
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no

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U

limber knotBOT
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what the frick

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simpleauthority, did u have any idea Masa, who seems decent on the forums, doesn't know how to code for shit? i'm looking thru MaSuite and growing a tumour

void void
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Proximyst, most people on Spigot are like that

limber knotBOT
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simpleauthority, bruh he goes new Home().getMeAnotherInstance()

void void
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What the fuck

limber knotBOT
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also reads the config on EVERY usage of it

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doesn't know how to use try-with-resources either

void void
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What the fuck is this. I've never seen this person before but I'm disgusted

limber knotBOT
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ye its infuriating

void void
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Same with more popular devs tho, take songoda for instance

woven otter
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i'm a dragon not a duck

void void
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Has no fucking idea what they're doing, tried to call me out on my code because they didn't understand, and then confessed that a certain someone on Spigot who they dated taught them to code

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And I lost my shit

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The typical saying "lots of people can hack something together, but not many can truly write code" is ridiculously true

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I should have been sleeping hours ago

woven otter
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yes go away simple

void void
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Duck you, fuck

quasi valley
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duckist

woven otter
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Duckist

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rude simple

limber knotBOT
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simpleauthority, oh how i hate songoda with a passion

void void
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For real. I don't hate the code as much as the personalitt

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Personality

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But the code is bad tol

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I can't fucking type

limber knotBOT
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ye i had to rewrite a few of their plugins for a server lo

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l

zealous knot
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Oh good morning ducc.

void void
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hai proxi

limber knotBOT
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hello mikro

void void
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anyway i generally avoid plugins on spigot (except ones i've gone through and verified or modified) and prefer to write everything myself

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because of absolutely shit code

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lots of people can hack something together, but not many can truly write code

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absolutely true

quasi valley
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looking at the latest resources and seeing ivan again

woven otter
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hello mr fix

limber knotBOT
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thats sadly not the most effective way of doing stuff for a larger server, mikro :(

woven otter
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also is this another songoda related drama

limber knotBOT
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nah this is masa related

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also mikroskeem, endersync sucks so much ass im disgusted to admit we're using it

woven otter
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who's that

limber knotBOT
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i had to compile like a trillion mc versions to add support to 1.14 smh

void void
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thats sadly not the most effective way of doing stuff for a larger server, mikro :(

indeed

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but helps to build frameworks what i can build my shit against

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tada

limber knotBOT
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ye for sure

void void
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i use my own i18n framework to support plugging in localization from anywhere and everything gets automatic text components support as well

quasi valley
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tho we obv also use biggies like we and essx, because you'd be stupid to do all of that yourself aaaa_helpme

void void
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we makes sense

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essx... not so much

limber knotBOT
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essx + cmi is just a pain honestly

void void
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CMI LUL

limber knotBOT
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we use its alias + portals functionality, thats about all

void void
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just use clojure scripting fam

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:^)

limber knotBOT
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it's not like it affects us in prod as we dont plugman reload or whatever there usually, but in testing i dont wanna reboot every other second

woven otter
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what did you do

heady spear
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The surgeon fucked me up

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Lol fuck I just gave you my ssn

woven otter
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irc

heady spear
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IRC can have fun with that lmao

woven otter
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was you appendix removed or smth

heady spear
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My thyroid

woven otter
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oh shit

heady spear
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And apparently my parathyroids too because my calcium levels are fucked up

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Was supposed to be sent home in Thursday

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Now theyโ€™re giving me calcium via IV for 12h lel

void void
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oof proxi, that smells bad

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My thyroid

oof^2

woven otter
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thay sucks city

heady spear
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At least Iโ€™m not in pain

limber knotBOT
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mikroskeem, ye it's annoying as hell too

heady spear
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My everything feels weird tho lmao

calm flume
neat quarry
limber knotBOT
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Isnt there a kind of "chat-history" in IRC?

heady spear
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Yes

limber knotBOT
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just use a bouncher

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and i totally misspelt that but oh well

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ah what?

worn ember
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@heady spear oh hi mark

limber knotBOT
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To see the history, lukas, you'd need to be connected to the server when those messages were sent.

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The server doesn't keep track of messages for you. As soon as the server has delivered a message, it is gone from the server.

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(Kottizen) Numb3rs' description of IRC - length 1m 41s - 4,277 likes, 793 dislikes (84.4%) - 1,365,514 views - mircea2s on 2009.11.11

unreal quarry
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Wtf did I just watch?

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Lmao

grand slate
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disgusting

neat cliff
dapper nacelle
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that moment when you finished your API, implemented something like 50 times and decide to change it

vestal jasper
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or when you have to change it numerous times

quasi valley
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lol you can now disconnect other people in voice channels (if you have the perms of course)

static badge
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about time it sounds like

quasi valley
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we used the subtle sound and mic mute buttons to troll each other before, now we can just disconnect each other a little less subtlely ๐Ÿ˜‚

vestal jasper
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you no longer have to create a channel, move someone to it, and delete the channel

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nice

void void
static badge
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essentials

void void
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yikes wtf

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apple pls

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if you want to use old opengl functions, you can't get opengl 3.x+ support

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so i had this "amazing" idea to play with minecraft and its opengl support

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got 4.1 version but as literally everything uses GL11 then rip

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OpenGL on Metal when lul

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wait a fuck....

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.g opengl on metal

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://moltengl.com/moltengl/ -- MoltenGL | Metal performance with OpenGL ES: "Get Metal performance with OpenGL ES. MoltenGL is an OpenGL implementation that runs on Metal, giving you the performance of Metal, in the proven..."

void void
limber knotBOT
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Metal is apples way of not using Vulkan, right?

void void
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yes

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there's MoltenVK

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.g MoltenVK

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://github.com/KhronosGroup/MoltenVK -- KhronosGroup/MoltenVK: MoltenVK is an implementation ... -...: "MoltenVK is an implementation of the high-performance, industry-standard Vulkan graphics and compute API, that runs on Apple's Metal graphics..."

void void
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.. lemme try this

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.g opengl on vulkan

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2018/10/31/introducing-zink-opengl-implementation-vulkan/ -- Introducing Zink, an OpenGL implementation on top of Vulkan: "Oct 31, 2018 ... Zink is an OpenGL implementation on top of Vulkan. Or to be a bit more specific, Zink is a Mesa Gallium driver that leverages the..."

Collabora | Open Source Consulting

Zink is a Mesa Gallium driver that leverages the existing OpenGL implementation in Mesa to provide hardware accelerated OpenGL when only a Vulkan driver is available.

void void
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"how many levels of abstractions are you on right now?"
java: "idk like 3 my dude"
me with apple's broken graphics stack: "you're like a little child, watch me"

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opengl (zink) -> vulkan (moltenvk) -> metal

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fucking emu on top of emu

static badge
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this is why you don't use mac

void void
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yeh

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bleh, zink implements 2.1

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might as well continue running mc on broken drivers

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and non-conformant 2.1

pearl ibex
#

Do any of you use Konsole? (KDE console)

frosty swan
languid narwhal
pearl ibex
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Stupid KDE console doesn't let me install a cool theme. ping

merry talon
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yes

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it kinda sucks

austere ivy
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what do you guys think

old badge
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nice

void void
quasi valley
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asking a question twice because you cant be bothered to scroll up again aaaa_helpme

keen dawn
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my bad

quasi valley
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tho I should add that you should search for EssentialsX, not Essentials

dusk drift
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look on the wiki for essentialsX

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give everyone the perm

crystal compass
#

Is there a way to share data across two bungee servers?

quasi valley
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some form of messaging

crystal compass
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With plugins like Luckperms,Jobs,Mcmmo

quasi valley
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databases?

static badge
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PogU violating rules

keen dawn
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๐Ÿ˜ซ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

golden gust
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@red dune feel free to not spam every discord with an advert, plzthx

static badge
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ah yes the resident tea drinker

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how's brexit going 4 u boys

quasi valley
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bloody well, I imagine

golden gust
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I can hardly brain right now to follow it all

static badge
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rip

golden gust
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But basically, everything is on fire

red dune
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Just putting the server out there for criticism. Didn't see anything here saying no advertising. My bad @golden gust.

static badge
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LUL

limber knotBOT
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Needs more tea tbh

static badge
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that is some interesting way to say "I want to advertise but need something to hide it behind"

red dune
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Trying to see what people think. The server is in beta. Just needing some criticism to better the negatives.

woven otter
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shh let him advertise

red dune
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Right. I mean I'd pay too. It's not like I'm some kid spamming servers in full caps and then asking for donations from every player that joins.

limber knotBOT
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test

quasi valley
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but you are some kid spamming it on multiple discords with the awesome excuse of "oh sorry, I didnt read the rules"

dusk drift
woven otter
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it was just a prank bro

quasi valley
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ur just a prank

woven otter
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it was a social experiment

vocal delta
fossil herald
austere ivy
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@keen dawn lp group default permission set essentials.tpa

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something like that?

keen dawn
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no still can't seem to find it

heady spear
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Some lady at the ward pooped the toilet out of order and some nurse forced me to drink laxatives

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So this will be a lot of fun I reckon

dusk drift
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what the fuck is going on ion ur life

heady spear
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I wish I knew

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Went in for a routine surgery and now I live at the hospital lol

worn ember
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Haha

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Weebs are weak

heady spear
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Not my fault my surgeon removed some extra things lol

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Stupid Russian with a girly name

woven otter
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cyka blyat

acoustic pilot
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Got back from the dentist and fortunately I only need a deep cleaning and a couple fillings. Not bad for a first checkup in 6 years lol. They tried to also sell me something that would cost me $850 but a quick Google shows that shit is a scam lol

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So the total work next time I go will be like $200

warm furnace
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did waterfall patch the future entity desync dupe

ancient bolt
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what did they try to sell you?

acoustic pilot
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Perio Daily Defense trays

ancient bolt
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the fuck

acoustic pilot
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$425 per tray

ancient bolt
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never heard of that

acoustic pilot
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Custom molded to your teeth

ancient bolt
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my dentist appts cost $20 and they don't try and sell me anything

vestal jasper
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They better gold plate that shit for $400+

acoustic pilot
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This is a budget dental called Western Dental, they try to sell it to everyone I think

ancient bolt
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googling, it's custom molded to your teeth

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so yeah that's actually a reasonable price for the work that's being done

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now whether you actually need that is a different story

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oh @acoustic pilot already said custom molded

acoustic pilot
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Right, seems you don't, or rather it's not effective as a treatment compared to alternatives

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I've checked r/Dentistry and some other sites

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They all seem to say there are better ways to deal with it than trays

ancient bolt
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what is it they are trying to treat?

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the website for the product is hilariously vague on wtf it does

acoustic pilot
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Well the person said I should get them because I will be getting a deep clean but didn't explain other than that, which makes it even fishier because I've gotten a deep clean before and this was never mentioned.

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Note, it wasn't the dentist recommending this himself, and the person dealing with the financial aspect of it said it's something I should Google and choose for myself

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The dentist only mentioned a deep clean and 2 fillings

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Which would cost me $200

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So I'm fairly sure it's just Western Dental trying to upsell

ancient bolt
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my dentist recommends me to get custom molded teeth guards because I grind my teeth in my sleep. apparently I've worn way like 2mm of enamel already or something like that

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which I think is the correct treatment, but yeah expensive

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so I won't do that for a while until I can afford it

acoustic pilot
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I do have a $4000 creidt line with CareCredit, but I'd rather not use it if I don't have to

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They wanted me to consider financing it with a 12-month no-interest CareCredit promotion.

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But at this point from what I'm reading, using trays to treat gum disease (which the dentist didn't even say I had) isn't even effective

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(which is their entire purpose)

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Worst case I'd need surgery to deal with bad cases of periodontitis (which I don't have to my knowledge), or there are alternative ways to deliver the medication without trays, either way I don't want to pay $800 for something I don't need so when I do go for my next appointment to get the cleaning and fillings done, I'll just ask the dentist I suppose.

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The Academy has concerns about the promotional claims for the efficacy of this product and believes that they could be misleading to dentists and patients. The Academy is unaware of any randomized, controlled clinical trials evaluating the efficacy of the therapy that have been published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal with a generally accepted scholarly reputation.

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The Academy = American Academy of Periodontology

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Oh another thing this dental practice tried to sneak under my nose was a waiver of my constitutional right to sue for malpractice, and agree only to neutral arbitration. Of course it was optional, and I didn't sign it.

limber knotBOT
#

hi guys, could you check out my khantent

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snort

worn ember
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Tf

crystal orbit
void void
celest coyote
woven otter
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lol okay

hard kernel
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Sir cat

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Lol

tropic flame
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๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ธ 0 - 1 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น (Euro 2020 Qualifiers)

slender herald
minor iron
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Byteflux :P sorry to hear

acoustic pilot
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Sorry to hear what? lol

grizzled hearth
#

Anyone can point me out how to "redirect" a subdomain to nexus? like repo.domain poiting to ip:8081

ancient bolt
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put it behind nginx

acoustic pilot
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yeah sounds like you're talking about a proxy, not redirect

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have a single nginx proxy all of your web stuff

grizzled hearth
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Thats why the quotes xd

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I see, thanks!

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Any tutorial or info on how to set it up and/or config?

acoustic pilot
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Just google something like "nginx reverse proxy"

tropic flame
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๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ธ 0 - 2 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

woven otter
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yes

tropic flame
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๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ธ 1 - 2 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

void void
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we dont need updates on whatever game you're watching

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thanks tho

limber knotBOT
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ya probs boring 2

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unless it's hockey

woven otter
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i agree with that guy who has "simple" as a name

tropic flame
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soccer

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Euro 2020, qualifiers

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well...

void void
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it's football (soccer)

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in which case

tropic flame
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You successfully unsubscribed from Logics's Score Updates!

void void
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we really dont need updates

limber knotBOT
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did u just admit u r spam bot

void void
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I don't remember subscribin

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So thx

tropic flame
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what

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no lol i'm hooman

woven otter
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it should be opt in by default

tropic flame
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yes

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just like bStats

woven otter
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bStats are opt out though

tropic flame
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idk where but at least on Paper when i install plugins, bStats is enabled by default

woven otter
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wait did I get it in reverse

tropic flame
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isn't Sponge the one where it is reverse?

woven otter
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no you did

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bstats are enabled by default so it's opt out

ancient bolt
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i wish kotlin had a regex literal

tropic flame
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ok by this point I'm confused so im just gonna agree

ancient bolt
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javascript's // literal is quite nice

void void
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tru

ancient bolt
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having to double escape everything is a pain

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and doing """...""" to not have to escape is ugly

void void
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/[A-Za-z]/.test("input") is hawt

keen dawn
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could anyone help me with giving everyone access to /tpa and /sethome? can't seem to find it on the wiki

void void
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.g essentials permissions list

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://essinfo.xeya.me/permissions.php -- permissions - EssentialsX Info: "Someone with this permission will not be ignored, even if they are on another persons ignore list. Essentials, me, A permission designed for admins,..."

void void
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for tpa essentials.worlds.<worldname> for each world that they can tpa to each other in
and essentials.tpa, essentials.tpacancel, and essentials.tpaccept and optionally essentials.tpahere (last one allows reverse tpa)

and... essentials.sethome.

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all you do is search in that page.

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aint hard

keen dawn
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but when I do that command you have to be OP to have access.

void void
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thats why you assign perms...........

keen dawn
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and what's a good plugin for that?

void void
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LuckPerms

woven otter
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no

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GroupManager

void void
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.kill Duck

limber knotBOT
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crushes Duck with a huge spiked boulder.

void void
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do not blaspheme in my house

woven otter
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.kill simple

limber knotBOT
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beheads simple with a chainsaw and uses their head to play baseball.

woven otter
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LuckPerms is the true blasphemy

void void
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.kill Duck

limber knotBOT
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turns Duck into a snail and covers them in salt.

void void
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"no u"

woven otter
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no u

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.kill simple

limber knotBOT
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rams a grenade launcher up simple's ass and lets off a few rounds.

woven otter
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that's nasty

void void
#

๐Ÿ˜

keen dawn
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it is possible for someone to pass me their config for luckperms?

void void
#

...

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it works out of the box

tardy lynx
#

What's the packet sent to the client to set their armour bar?

acoustic pilot
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Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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CDs have been murdered by streaming. Just goes to show how many people buy physical albums now.

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Pretty much no one as far as the whole industry is concerned.

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The RIAA report says that in the first half of 2019, vinyl record sales accounted for only 4% of overall revenues. Paid subscriptions to streaming services like Spotify and Apple Music, meanwhile, accounted for 62%.

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I bet Taylor Swift's album sales account for a huge chunk of CD sales lol

ancient bolt
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i bought a physical album of taylor's new lover. never used the CD, i just have it. I downloaded it as soon as it was released

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yeah she's one of the few artists that retains CD sales

acoustic pilot
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She's the only one really succeeding with CD sales

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Yeah

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Maybe in 20 years from now, CDs will have more sentimental value lol

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I wonder why Vinyl is growing, though

ancient bolt
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someone posted on the taylor swift subreddit they had bought lover as a cassette tape

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so she even sells those

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I wonder why Vinyl is growing, though

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hipsters

acoustic pilot
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Damn audiophiles

ancient bolt
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lol who was the wannabe audiophile in here the other day who thought a dac was a sound card?

acoustic pilot
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Basically CDs are dying so fast that vinyl is catching up lol

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Billy and Sonorous might be interested to know, since we had a discussion about this the other day.

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Just reinforces my argument on why Tool caved into streaming.

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Taylor Swift is a pop star anomaly who is basically the only person pulling off major CD sales.

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Swift fans go the extra mile, they buy merchandising and multiple formats.

ancient bolt
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yeah she knows what she's doing

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this go around she released 4 deluxe editions, all of which containing a journal which has diary entries from different points in Taylor's life, and one of 4 different posters

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some people legit bought all 4 just to have each poster

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no one actually guys the CDs for the CD, taylor just has loyal fans and give other incentives to buy the CD by packaging it with other stuff

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though if I saw a Lover casstte tape I'd 100% buy that for the meme

acoustic pilot
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Yeah she knows her fans and how to market to them. Nobody is even close to doing as good as her on CD sales

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Almost everyone else has to rely on streaming

#

Her fans are also quite literally fanatical

ancient bolt
#

that's also why taylor's been so vocal about how shitty streaming is for artists - she's said plenty of times she's perfectly fine but 1000s of other artists just get fucked over hard by streaming

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I try my best to be fanatical

acoustic pilot
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There are worse things to be fanatical about, so why not lol

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The demographics for her fanbase is also very diverse in age, culture and country.

ancient bolt
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eh it's not that diverse

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mostly white women age 20-35

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mostly being probably like 50-60%, it's certainly very diverse

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but a huge portion of it isn't very diverse lol

acoustic pilot
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Yeah it'll definitely appeal to that group more, but still leaves a lot of room

ancient bolt
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as we all know I am a white woman age 20-35

acoustic pilot
#

Just a glance any way, I've noticed that a lot of fans also tend to be young dudes

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As well as older women

ancient bolt
#

the demographics of swiftie & redditor are interesting

acoustic pilot
#

Pretty impressive for a female pop star to have a large male following

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Well, a pop star in general, I mean

ancient bolt
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reddit skews it hard male tbh

pulsar wigeon
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^^

ancient bolt
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at her concert it was like 90% female

pulsar wigeon
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do the survey on facebook instead

ancient bolt
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and im sure most guys were with their gf

unreal quarry
#

saw theres a live stream of "state of sponge".. clicked on it to see what its about.. first 60 seconds i hear "ummmm" like 7 times while they're talking about minigames matches or something. closed out tab.

ancient bolt
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they're developers, not public speakers

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

static badge
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all I know is I rated the post and my emoji got removed

ancient bolt
#

Also sponge is in a lul right now so they're doing the best they can I suppose

static badge
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weren't u on one of those

acoustic pilot
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2 everyone pings from Sponge discord within 4 hours of each other lol

static badge
#

seen worse from other servers

acoustic pilot
#

Me too but I leave them when it happens

ancient bolt
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yeah my bit on SoS was full of "uhm"s too

static badge
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u were there for mc-dev weren't u?

ancient bolt
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of course

static badge
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is sponge still recovering from 1.13

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I think they're still on 1.13

unreal quarry
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did they ever make it to 1.13?

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i thought they were still on 1.12

static badge
#

yeah I think they did

ancient bolt
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no, the FG3 conversion is hard as hell

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i got FG3 support in mcdev working last night

tropic flame
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this caught me off-guard

ember narwhal
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EntityTrackerFixer updated hmm novoicThonk

peak dirge
#

Based on Shodan searches:

4,638 IPs report a BungeeCord server
2,204 IPs report a Waterfall server
245 IPs report a Velocity server
Can't find anything solid on LilyPad, going to have to change my MAC again to unlock more searches. But I'd guess probably not as many as Waterfall.

worn ember
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@tropic flame that's what she said

tropic flame
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yes @worn ember

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btw, the second NPC I battled after that one was the boyfriend

peak dirge
#

Needless to say, Waterfall has had some great uptake... but it's still early days for Velocity.

tropic flame
#

F

worn ember
#

Velocity is bad

peak dirge
#

๐Ÿ˜ข

void void
#

how many MikroCords lmao

peak dirge
#

probably none at all

void void
#

wait i have shodan pro

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lol

#

you were wrong

peak dirge
#

that's a lot XD

void void
#

noshit it is

unreal quarry
#

velocity is to bungee/waterfall what sponge is to spigot/paper. its the project we all need, but too different to really switch to.

peak dirge
#

I'm thinking seriously about just integrating BungeeQuack into Velocity

dapper nacelle
#

I accidentally opened IntelliJ pepescreech

void void
#

k

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don't integrate it

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it's absolutely different proxy software, intended to be better than bungee and not supposed to emulate it :p bungee plugin channel emulation using a plugin is good enough

#

i bet that it doesn't take that much to implement bungee api on velocity either

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just few hacks here and there, maybe even bytecode transforming. that's all

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transforms mikro's bytecode

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java.lang.VerifyError: Bad type on operand stack in runtime

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you fucked up

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ok then

#

manually edits mikro's bytecode with notepad++

#

reminds me one minecraft launcher

#

what disabled mojang's dumb server blocking thingy

#

hahaha

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it used hex based patching

#

i remember that

#

yea

peak dirge
#

squidhq

void void
#

squidhq uses transformer, no?

peak dirge
#

but now everyone uses SRV records

void void
#

aand java agent

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honestly srv records aren't hard to block, just mojang doing half assed job as always ๐Ÿ˜’

peak dirge
#

yeah, but nobody uses SquidHQ now, since SRV records work on the client and you can easily generate DNS names on demand on domains Mojang will have a tough time outright blocking

void void
#

I'm.... kinda addicted to The Resident but at the same time it's pathetic

crystal compass
#

@tropic flame Love emulating the old pokemon games

tropic flame
#

@crystal compass yeee i like pokรฉmon

hallow coral
cosmic raft
#

hmm

#

SSD for $59.99

#

enclosure is $29.99

#

or a external SSD is $99.99

pearl ibex
#

Kash! o/

#

Any Linux wise guy on here? I'm having a bad time with OpenJFX. thinking_gun

arctic delta
pearl ibex
#

I actually installed it, but I think I need to set some kind of environment path stuff. Tbh i'm super confused.

void void
#

What do you mean?

pearl ibex
#

Well, I kinda need JFX 11, so...

void void
#

So what you installed it and need it in your path?

pearl ibex
#

I have OpenJDK since it came bundled with Debian.

void void
#

What is the exact issue you need help with

pearl ibex
#

But the thing is: after I installed OpenJFX, it didn't got recognized, so I think I need to set some path variable or something like that. (Just moved to Linux today)

#

Recognized by the app, I mean.

#

It is installed, AFAIK.

void void
#

What are you typing that isn't recognized

#

Is it a command

pearl ibex
#

Basically java -jar jar.jar kind of stuff.

void void
pearl ibex
#

But then I get this error saying OpenJFX is not installed. Same thing happened on Windows when the path variable was not set.

#

Uhhh... Do you think it would be a problem if i installed it from apt?

#

I'm just gonna install Chocolatey. thonk thinking_gun

#

Oh, wait. Chocolatey is a Windows-only thing.

#

Dang.

void void
#

Have you tried restarting your pc yet

#

Or logging out and in

#

It probably made the vars and they haven't applied yet

pearl ibex
#

Do you know of a reliable way to get OpenJFX 8 in Debian 10? Looks like that's the problem i'm facing.

#

I need OJFX8. :P

#

Tried downloading the .deb file from Debian's website and got nothing but a "this thing doesn't exist lmao".

#

I'm thinking about installing the one from Ubuntu.

limber knotBOT
#

I am really annoyed that secretlab gave me an invalid tracking number for my chair shipment

unreal cypress
limber knotBOT
#

Crazy people say crazy things

jagged egret
#

Does anybody know how I could listen for inbound and outbound packets synchronously

#

I know ProtocolLib just cancels and resends outbound packets if they're not seen by the main thread

#

Some error message about invalid packet ID

proud cape
spiral heart
acoustic pilot
#

Interesting, looks like Cox raised my download another 50mbps, so up to 200mbps now.

#

Second time now. Started out with 100mbps

#

They are pushing gigabit pretty hard on me, and I would consider it, if it didn't come with a contract. Right now I'm no longer bound and can leave whenever I want without penalty ๐Ÿ˜›

hot gorge
#

I'm on Cox 1000/30 with no contact

#

119 plus tax

acoustic pilot
#

I'd have to get a 12 month agreement which is also a promotional offer for $99/mo and then it turns to $120/mo after that.

#

There's an early cancellation fee, I don't think the 12 months is optional

#

At the moment it's $94/mo for 200mbps which is OK by me though.

#

I mean still expensive, but no other choice in my area.

#

Spectrum is available in my area, cheaper and less scummy, but my apartment has an exclusivity deal with DirecTV, I was lucky to get Cox before they signed that deal lol

shell vine
#

i got gigabit fios for 70 a month + 10 for router rental ๐Ÿ˜‰

acoustic pilot
#

paying for rental

#

lol

#

Verizon's gigabit is cheap though, yeah.

#

Don't know why people are still falling into the ISP hardware rental trap.

#

Get your shit off Amazon and stop letting them milk you.

unreal quarry
#

i like the rental because if it breaks its a free replacement

#

or if tech upgrades, free replacement

#

i dont think i keep the same modem for more than 6 months, ever

acoustic pilot
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These things don't break and are typically one-time purchases.

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Had mine for years.

cosmic raft
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They do break.

acoustic pilot
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Your ISP will maintain a long list of certified modems you can choose from, just pick one that will last into the future.

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DOCSIS 3.1 is the standard for a lot.

cosmic raft
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I know two people who have had their DOCSIS modems just flat out die. You don't get a choice of what modem you get.

void void
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they break if you visit naughty sites ๐Ÿ‘€

unreal quarry
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last time i bought a modem docsis 3.0 replaced it within 6 months and had to buy a new one or go back to rental. i just went back to rental and stayed there. not worth buying one if i can just keep getting a new one handed to me

acoustic pilot
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DOCSIS 3.0 are also $30.

unreal quarry
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not when they were new

acoustic pilot
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3.1 will last another 5-10 years.

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So do the math really on the cost

cosmic raft
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Thankfully I don't have to deal with DOCSIS modem crap

acoustic pilot
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You could even afford to replace one and still come out ahead

unreal quarry
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i would love to go fiber, kash. but i legit have 2 choices. at&t uverse, or comcast cable.

acoustic pilot
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It's a bit like pet insurance, it's designed for them to come out ahead, not you

cosmic raft
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.g at&t uverse

limber knotBOT
acoustic pilot
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Every locality in the US pretty much only has 1-2 choices within a 10-30 mile radius.

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They are micro-monopolies.

wraith oracle
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I've only heard bad things about internet providers in the US

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what's up with that

unreal quarry
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because they're all bad

acoustic pilot
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They are set up like turfs

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Each ISP gets their own turf

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It's highly anti-competitive.

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FCC doesn't do shit about it.

cosmic raft
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CAD$75/mo (USD$57) for 300/300 fibre here.

unreal quarry
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$150/mo for 250/10 unmetered here

queen rapids
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$60 a month for gig internet for me ๐Ÿ™‚

acoustic pilot
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Metered bandwidth, another lovely scam.

unreal quarry
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would be $100/mo, but i hit their max cap of 1TB/mo often, so i pay $50/mo extra for unmetered

acoustic pilot
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US ISPs do it so they can sell you "unlimited bandwidth"

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Metered bandwidth should be criminal.

cosmic raft
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newegg has the same but sold out

queen rapids
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product/null

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lol

cosmic raft
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yeah I did that

queen rapids
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o

queen rapids
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true

tawdry coyote
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think I got the 512gb ssd for like 89

cosmic raft
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shoving product names into urls is dumb

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"friendly" urls are dumb in general

acoustic pilot
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They weren't when they were first being used.

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They had SEO value

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Not so much these days though

cosmic raft
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yup

acoustic pilot
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Google has gotten smarter that it's irrelevant now

fringe flint
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webpass in SF is a godsend and i truly feel for anyone stuck with xfinity/some other cable provider

acoustic pilot
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But it might still rank better on less developed search engines

fringe flint
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i wish america would get better w/ the internet

acoustic pilot
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Not that anything other than Google matters ๐Ÿ˜›

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Webpass sucks because it's wireless.

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But I get that some people like it

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Because it's cheap and accessible

fringe flint
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within SF tho it's all fiber to the buildings

cosmic raft
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whereas

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urls like this i'm okay with

fringe flint
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i get 0.2ms to cloudflare and google pops here lol

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it's beautiful

acoustic pilot
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Google Fiber is Fiber, but Webpass is wireless to my knowledge.

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Webpass is what Google rolled out in cities that they couldn't roll out Google Fiber

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Because it's cheaper

fringe flint
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nah they run fiber now

acoustic pilot
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And they didn't need to lay fiber

fringe flint
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sure they still have the microwave stuff

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but if ur lucky you can get fiber

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and it's the same price lol

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$35/m basically for gigabit

unreal quarry
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here is houston theres fiber literally everywhere. comcast spent like 20 years rolling it all out. but they stopped at the pole. from the pole to the house is cable still. which is a pita

fringe flint
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that's a bummer

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at that point they might as well let u pay to run a line to the pole if u opt-in

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so silly

unreal quarry
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they do. $500 deposit, $500 install fee. and its like $300/mo after that

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not really residential friendly

fringe flint
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$300/m is whack

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if u think about it you're doing them a favor future-proofing ur house for their fiber network lol

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i mean even some quality cat6 would work depending on the distance

acoustic pilot
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These fucks were given $400 billion in tax payer money to build infrastructure but swindled it all. They all deserve to be taken to court.

fringe flint
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but i'm pretty sure at that distance fiber is more economical

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smh comcast

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awful customer experience/pricing, but their backbone isn't bad fwiw and you get decent routes everywhere

hot gorge
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Verizon did the same thing Byte

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They deployed like 30% of the proposed fiber

unreal quarry
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verizon makes me mad. they advertise fios everywhere. but i cant find anywhere that they actually have lines at. i've put random addresses in their "check availability" things on the site and legit everything comes back "sorry, not in your area"

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lol

hot gorge
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That's because they took the subsidy and ran.

void void
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yea not in my area either

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same for google fiber, though i havent checked that in at least a year