maybe you dont have enough games?
#general
worn ember
limber knotBOT
thx
true canyon
I've defintely made one before. Maybe it's just sad.
worn ember
are you logged in?
true canyon
Yep, and tried logged out too
celest coyote
hey billy are you willing to code up some new API PRs that will prob never get merged cause the project leaders are lazy?
true canyon
Oh well, time to just play more
celest coyote
:kappa:
peak dirge
hmm... here's a project to work on: async chunk loading in CB 1.7.3 beta 🙂
pulsar wigeon
i mean it'd be really nice if spigot just made the existing event cancellable
wouldn't need any new shit then
static badge
async loading is ez once you get it done 
limber knotBOT
kashike u should make ur bot able to highlight multiple lines like github
pulsar wigeon
you'd know all about being easy leaf
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mfw
limber knotBOT
link to highlight multiple lines on the web logs that is
worn ember
small mantle
celest coyote
dark did you make any process or are you still being dum
pulsar wigeon
is he ever not
limber knotBOT
suppose it's too late to delete the entity at this point
If he doesn't want to make it cancelable he should at least fire a BlockFromToEvent like when water breaks skulls and stuff
or w/e
peak dirge
the other thing to do is to do some remapping magic so that Canyon can ship modern Google Guava instead of the ancient guava-collections thing
limber knotBOT
@BillyGalbreath where sauce of ur claims plogen
peak dirge
Well, I'm no fan of keeping this Guava release from early 2010 around: https://github.com/google/guava/wiki/ReleaseHistory
might have to do some ASM stuff to rewrite old plugins to use a different Guava prefix
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2010 
peak dirge
Bukkit used to be on Guava 10 for a long time
grand slate
no.1 meme
woven otter
just noticed that #paper-help is not #general
limber knotBOT
channels are a construct
pulsar wigeon
we had so many fucking shims to deal with that BS in worldedit
woven otter
heh
pulsar wigeon
cuz forge was up on 18+ at the time
static badge
ship ur own guava
void void
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all packets
dapper nacelle
@void void#5591
void void
I just changed inner tubes on 7 bikes to go camping
void void
No
woven otter
she is on cooldown
void void
You pinged her just fine but put in #5591 för no reason
dapper nacelle
there are 2 arisas
woven otter
that's not the real Arisa
dapper nacelle
what do you mean "on cooldown"?
pulsar wigeon
will the real Arisa please stand up
void void
🤔
woven otter
yes
woven otter
do a scratch test
pulsar wigeon
the real joke is buying an ipad
void void
I didn't buy it, I got it as a present. I haven't used it in 5 years until now
robust quest
void void
Not the same person
Scroll above
Yeah the id is different
Why'd they get cooled down
Hehe
@void void
That's why he got cooled down?
She
He could've said no homo first of all
And prob not
Oh
Well
She's done a lot of weird stuff lately
don't know and don't care
woven otter
she wasn't banned afaik
quasi valley
Just thrown into a shadow realm
limber knotBOT
r u sure dis is a she, cuz there's been multiple instances of he's trying to be she's
one who is quite infamous 2
quasi valley
And that’s a hella compressed image
limber knotBOT
9k.png
woven otter
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) xkcd: Digital Data (20 May 2016)
quasi valley
That’s essentially all of reddit’s meme subs 😂
opal cliff
void void
limber knotBOT
wut
woven otter
@grand slate oof
limber knotBOT
would it murder you to just send the counter?
grand slate
why would u ping me for that
void void
woven otter
sarcastic purposes
void void
because I did muhahaha
limber knotBOT
thats not a counter
void void
then idk what you mean Tea
limber knotBOT
that an image, which doesn't even show the totals
woven otter
I think there's some truth to what wiz said
https://i.imgur.com/6iNz7NZ.png
grand slate
@void void i implore you to see reason, this is not a viable project any longer
idk when you started this, i presume years ago, it looks like it, you need a new project
woven otter
but does it work in practice
void void
Why would I create a whole new project
when this is running our entire 14 minigame network
woven otter
if anything that project needs a rewrite from scratch
grand slate
because nobody sticks to one project for that many years, unless it's successful or good
void void
which it is
grand slate
WAIT this is in production
void void
yes
grand slate
void void
it's not good but it's successful and I am making money
grand slate
holy shit, when my server releases i'll be rich then if that can make money
void void
well, the code is not good I mean
by a professional 100% perfect standpoint
the code works and it works great compared to older iterations
grand slate
ngl, not being rude, it's not perfect by any standpoint
grand slate
dw the current one is making me die lol, it needs a complete rewrite
void void
it is horrible
grand slate
the current one is horrible...
grand slate
a complete rewrite, done properly
woven otter
by a professional 100% perfect standpoint
grand slate
i should have specified done properly
void void
well I need ideas
grand slate
you've been programming probaby longer than me, doesn't that embarass you? I know if i look at code of mine from last year it embarasses me
void void
since all I have right now is me needing to further abstract minigames
fierce owl
woven otter
Chris time doesn't matter. Everyone learns at different speed. Butthe fact that he acts as if he knows everything and doesn't want to admit it's bad is the saddest part
void void
as seen in the rewrite PR, I took in lots of feedback from many people in this community, and put it into use. if you, Chris, could also provide feedback on what I need to improve that would help instead of just bashing it
woven otter
yet you still don't want to admit it's bad
void knot
hi i am from turkey my english very bad and litte my problems websend connects on my website but does not send commands
websend version 2.5.7
papermc version paper-175 1.14.4
@golden gust @cosmic raft
woven otter
oh god
void void
how can I admit something is bad if I don't see it as bad myself.
to me this looks worlds better then it did a week ago, not to mention a year ago
woven otter
@void knot don't ping people with any roles here unless they have given you their permission
okay that's a fair point
it's just the way you act
that's my concern
void void
for me to see it as bad, I need people to explain to me what is bad about it instead of just saying the code is shit and not saying specifically what code and what I can improve
void knot
@woven otter sorry 😦
woven otter
you have said that it's for sarcastic purposes or whatever but I find that hard to believe
grand slate
@void void ok real criticism:
You are using unsafe async tasks,
You aren't using OOP principles correctly
Your use of Optionala
Ridiculously long conditional statements and classes
That's from reading comitts, idk what i'd uncover if i read the whole thing
void void
well, my sarcasm is not like yours, I have asperger's syndrome, ocd, and ptsd.
like I said earlier, I throw out counter claims to see if people can back up their claims-
not to be rude but to see if their claims hold ground and if so I can implement it
my sarcasm is me saying async write to file is ok, when I know very well it's not just trying to get a reaction
and that can be applied to a lot of other things I say
grand slate
Okay, well, it's good you know it's not okay. Time to fix it :d
void void
I only made it async temporarily as I am moving everything to a db instead of flatfile
and currently flatfile save takes about 30 seconds since of how huge the file is
so I made it async
so it doesn't lag the server
limber knotBOT
lol
woven otter
30 seconds to save what exactly?
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void void
what happened to leaf?
limber knotBOT
If you're looking for contributions, may I suggest commenting your code.
woven otter
he got kicked
that happens often
the discord bot even gives him his roles back
so yeah
void void
the config was much bigger a couple weeks ago before I did a purge
Zed I am already working on commenting it
that's what I am doing right now
woven otter
what's in even in that config
limber knotBOT
Cool :) It's always hard to jump into a big project and understand what's going on.
void void
instead of me explaining it, let me just show you 😆 , it's horrible how much I could simplify it and put it into the player data files instead
ignore the trails part, that whole thing was removed from the config now since it didn't need to be in there
woven otter
damn you cat
void void
yes it's horrible
if I was to stay in flatfile I'd rewrite it to use the player data files instead of half and half
but I am moving to db anyway
limber knotBOT
I write json in yml files
fallen oracle
Why are you saving the IPs as #x#x#x#?
void void
because I couldn't figure out how to have periods, and I really didn't care enough to figure it out and just threw it in like that
worn ember
just save it as a string? lol
fallen oracle
config.setString()
void void
ah
limber knotBOT
I'm also using a large codebase in production which I initially wrote when just learning to code, and have to suffer the horrible design choices I made years ago. It's painful :P
void void
see like I said I really didn't care enough to try to figure it out
I could've figured that out in a google search
fallen oracle
I ended up moving away from the bukkit API awhile back
For configs at least.
It was just too annoying.
golden gust
that's why one day I just opted "fuck it" and started rewriting stuff
void void
I so want to burn this code so bad
fallen oracle
Interesting
limber knotBOT
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woven otter
switching to Configurate was the best day tbh
limber knotBOT
I say-ay, what's going on
Aye, but a full rewrite takes a lot of time. Sometimes it's just better to suffer relatively minor pain in maintenance costs rather than take the risk and large block of time rewriting it properly
I rewrote my configuration file system recently
took me over a month
it now has around 250 configuration files
fallen oracle
limber knotBOT
oh how nice glare
I hope you give them a 4-pack
Was it just one configuration file before? :S
it was about 10 I think
I say 250 but it's really not that much
I just made it so each item has its own config file
woven otter
that's alot
limber knotBOT
so does each mob type and each enchant type and each potion effect type
void void
I guess this will have to do, since I am running short on time. this code needs to burn
limber knotBOT
they're all organized into folders so it never really feels overwhelming and you always get a decent idea of where you need to be
It sounded like you have one option per file for a moment there
nah I think the fewest options I have in a config file is 3
if (file.exists()) then config option is true!
and that's mostly because I've not finished fully implementing them
woven otter
!stats
limber knotBOT
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irc 4 lyfe
woven otter
but irc is irc
limber knotBOT
precisely
huh, irc increased
even with arisa flooding chat with random weeb stuff
woven otter
it was at 6% at some point
wooden blade
No thanks, I'm perfectly fine living in the 21st century.
void void
if a class extends the class you are checking instanceof does it still work?
I have a class named Player extending the super class Skyfight
I am using that Skyfight.Player class as the minigame class, hence why it is extending Skyfight
Will Skyfight.class.isInstance(map.get(player)) return true assuming map.get(player) returns a Skyfight.Player class?
limber knotBOT
I'm not fine with you living in the 21st century tho
wooden blade
I'm fine with me not caring, about whether your fine with you living in the 21st century
limber knotBOT
I want to talk to your manager
wooden blade
He's too busy looking for that memo
wooden blade
C'est la Vie
limber knotBOT
I'll have you know I have 10 million followers on grindr
worn ember
so ur big gay
wooden blade
But zero on Bumpr
limber knotBOT
I also have 50 million on christianmingle
wooden blade
But you've easily got 40 million on farmersonly, just from those sheep spawners
limber knotBOT
yeah I call my followers the sheeple nation
wooden blade
Sheeple are sheeple, so why should it be?
limber knotBOT
I bet you don't even have any 4chan stalkers
wooden blade
That's a good thing
wooden blade
You should believe everything you read on the internet, except this statement
woven otter
@void void yes.
Also you should reconsider the names because from perspective of inheritance they don't really make sense
wooden blade
Shoes are so gauche
limber knotBOT
true, I only wear stilletos
void void
okay thanks
limber knotBOT
is you can't kill someone with your shoes then why are you even wearing shoes
woven otter
What's with the UUID, Object? Do you actually have a Map like that?
void void
yes
you either store say Factions.class or new Factions(), the former if you just want the server to know the player is in the factions minigame, or the latter if you also want to store data for that player in that minigame
woven otter
I think you need to rethink the design of whatever that does
void void
so I should have a redundent array to store data if I need to?
this allows one array to be multipurpose
and use the same amount of memory
and I can access everything from one place
woven otter
I mean when I saw those minigames and now when I see this you can make it so much better. I though you could have a superclass of Minigame then each of your minigame could be a subclass and actually store the data what it needs. Like, for example, what players have joined and what not
The way you do it atm is pretty messy
limber knotBOT
who here runs an email server
woven otter
why? are you looking for vulnerable email servers?
limber knotBOT
no imma run one
I was gonna do exchange but that costs $$
so am looking 4 next best thing
woven otter
why do you need one anyways
limber knotBOT
idk if there are any mail servers that implement exchange activesync protocol
cuz i want 2 control my email
and no possibility of rogue support accounts gettin in 2 it
void void
i believe iRedMail offers activesync, but you need to make sure you install SOGo when it offers
limber knotBOT
imma guess the mail app in nextcloud is just a client
void void
yea might be a caldav server too, but no mail server functionality
iirc
Omg finally
I have little hope in this working without a hitch
limber knotBOT
thanks simplydum, dis may b gud. doesn't seem 2 run on windows tho :c I may wsl2 dis or something.
void void
k?
It would be nice if you stopped using this channel as a linkdump. Provide some context pls
grand slate
Skorllorrreee, how do u even pronounce it
void void
score-lore-gaming
woven otter
cosmic raft
@static badge
void void
and I got mcMMO-Classic to compile with the api changes, yay
static badge
optionals need to be burned in hell
grand slate
Optionals can be good when used properly
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and left for the rats
grand slate
But they rarely are used properly 😔
void void
Literally, the only case in this (https://github.com/SkorrloreGaming/SkorrloreGaming/commit/6a127b659eb8258de107d00f725b24b7c4dd4550#diff-17232dfd382ef342bd8233532e26b1ecR790) where it's null is the bottom. So why optional lmao
They're literally enum constants
pulsar wigeon
cuz he's fucking retarded
grand slate
Rarted*
void void
not null at the bottom*
woven otter
as I said you need to think about how to design things
void void
no, the optional just wraps null for you so you dont have to nullcheck.
it's still null
pls
void void
well yeah
static badge
no 
void void
sigh
woven otter
people usually just make another enum value as a default one
void void
and I did have that but my purpose here is to make HUB not a minigame
woven otter
in your case why wouldn't you just add ServerMinigame.UNKNOWN as a default state
or then HUB is the default state
void void
enum Something {
NONE (null),
ONE (1),
TWO (2);
private Integer value;
Something(Integer value) { this.value = value; }
public Integer getValue() { return value; }
}
Then you're not testing == null, but == Something.NONE
but, meh
woven otter
^
pulsar wigeon
no simple, no logic allowed here
grand slate
l o g i c no
void void
Alright I need some food. Gonna find that 
woven otter
like there are part in your code that should belong to Minigame class (if it exists)
void void
I can't relate.
woven otter
https://github.com/SkorrloreGaming/SkorrloreGaming/commit/6a127b659eb8258de107d00f725b24b7c4dd4550#diff-a280610cef1d2d329b89ccb295a1c54fR1945
see in this case you could've eliminated that isPresent call and just compare the current minigame directly
void void
Minigame is an interface
limber knotBOT
more methods to have a one-liner call is better than a one-liner comparison?
woven otter
apparently
honestly a class would make more sense since you have worlds per minigame, players per minigame etc
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
this is what happens when you are coding on 2 hours of sleep and don't test before push
woven otter
too bad you have IJ's inspections turned off
grand slate
how have you even got yourself a SO
pulsar wigeon
lack of braincells
grand slate
o.o
worn ember
daddy wiz
void void
I was so absorbed in this minigame update that I forgot that-
I have to still match minigame type to a minigame class
woven otter
i give up
worn ember
can we plz ban the letter combination sk
woven otter
yeah
worn ember
should use streams to look even gooder
yes
and use fancy words like dependency injection and concurrency
and flex your lambdas
true god programmer
void void
I'm just waiting for someone to say "don't give him any ideas"
worn ember
💩
late timber
void knot
tawdry coyote
if you really want to flex your skills just use streams/lambdas and write one liners for everything ezpz
woven otter
turn all of your code into one liner
tawdry coyote
wonder if i could rewrite the entirety of paper in one line 🤔
woven otter
try it
void void
codegolf paper
pulsar wigeon
better off just making a program that folds classes into a single source file and removing all whitespace
if that doesn't already exist
pulsar wigeon
tho..i think javac requires that public classes be in a source file with their own name?
dunno on what level that requirement is
void void
that's correct
pfft push all the classes into single file
Fold all classes, mind originally main class, wrap in new main class
class x {
static class a { ... }
static class b { ... }
...
}
ez
ye
for extra pain encode it in ISO-8859-1
not utf-8
void void
bytecode transform plugins
pulsar wigeon
LUL
woven otter
also turn everything you can into static methods
void void
uhhh
smells like clojure to me
and use tabs hehe
now go kys
lmao
wait no don't
that's perfect idea
suicide by 5 shots to the back of the head
woven otter
that's mean mikroskeem
void void
so sorry to hear about your suicide tomorrow
pulsar wigeon
also isnt there a class size limit of like 64kb?
void void
well
void void
inner classes are separate classes
pulsar wigeon
er, class file*
void void
64kb otherwise yeah
pulsar wigeon
i guess compiler will spit out main$a$b
void void
yep yep
void void
smells like clojure to me
every func, variable etc. are compiled down to classes
in clojure
imagine entity id counter being a separate class
F U N C T I O N A L
woven otter
okay this looks like something very fun to experiment with
only 255 dimensions of an array
void void
Okay I hate optionals now
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LUL
woven otter
but why
void void
-.-
pulsar wigeon
cuz he's fucking retarded
woven otter
need more optionals
void void
Turns out you cannot use get() at all if there is not a value present and I was designing my code assuming it would just return null
WHAT THE FK
kek
That's the ENTIRE POINT of an optional
just use .orElse
woven otter
I rate this 9/11
void void
if you want null lmao
Do some research before changing your entire structure i s2g
yeet.orElse(null)
and if you wanted null anyway why change it
woven otter
no simple
woven otter
research is overrated
woven otter
fuck that shit
static badge
tbh yeah the entire point of optional is to throw if null
void void
Still not working
Using orElseGet
Like, he wants null, so im gonna fucking use optionals and call get() and expect null!
instead of just returning fucking null!
orElseGet expects a supplier
noshit it'll blow
Yeah I see that now but my laptop died
excuses excuses
So I'm disconnected for 3 days
i swear to god this is some top level dumbassery
pulsar wigeon
i've been saying this shit for weeks simple
woven otter
No it's methods approved by the top notch developers
pulsar wigeon
imagine java language designers coming up with the entire concept of optionals
woven otter
you don't understand anything smh
woven otter
it's all a joke tbh
void void
Okay I get it, I'll make it always check if it is present and use ? optional.get() : null
Sarcasm
I'm going to remove all the optionals
pulsar wigeon
you should just remove all the code
void void
Once I get back on the computer
I used to say teaching yourself how to code was great. But now I see the absolute FUCKING horrors that occur
woven otter
wdym simple
woven otter
oh scratch that
void void
You learn enough to be fucking disgusting and then stop learning I guess because you think you're great or something
Those that keep learning are nice
But those that stop, I despise
pulsar wigeon
devon, i have a perfect guide for you:
git checkout --orphan newbranch
git rm -rf .
git commit --allow-empty "Initial commit."
git push -u origin master --force
void void
git branch -D master as well
pulsar wigeon
yea delete all your local branches
void void
I learned about optionals first in sponge development where optionals are used everywhere
pulsar wigeon
you won't be needing them anymore
void void
optionals aren't that... great
worn ember
Yeah. They're optional
void void
But what I'm saying is
pulsar wigeon
meh, they are a design decision
void void
You didn't learn Optionals
pulsar wigeon
have to use them correctly
void void
You learned of Optionals
pulsar wigeon
which he obviously wasn't
void void
i don't like optionals personally, annoying to use in kotlin atleast
woven otter
optionals in kotlin 🤔
void void
yes indeed
pulsar wigeon
you don't need extra objects for it
void void
kinda Dark, from what I can see through a surface read of its docs
but for example when you need to write something against sponge api
which utilizes optionals
pulsar wigeon
yea true
void void
then it's not nice
worn ember
I dont really get their use
pulsar wigeon
optionals are exactly c#'s nullable
woven otter
Optionals are only great for ifPresent tbh
void void
I don't use c# enough, only ever used it when I worked for the bank. Those guys all had microsoft boners
yeah, true duck
pulsar wigeon
main difference is c# allows value types everywhere
raw vector
worn ember
Just add a nullcheck and be done with it
pulsar wigeon
so you can do Nullable<int> aka int?
worn ember
Yeah
pulsar wigeon
meanwhile Optional<Integer>
void void
stop
pulsar wigeon
value types are slated for java in like....
1.13 or 1.14?
there's some stuff coming in valhalla soon
we'll see how it goes
void void
also i remember leaf had an issue with WeakReference
I'm getting pretty hyped for valhalla tbh I need to go check it again
pulsar wigeon
in 20 years, when mojang switches to it :^)
worn ember
C# has some nice syntax sugar over Java. But their absurdly long class names ruin it sometimes lol
void void
you must create new weakref object if you need to set value coz u can't set the value
void void
so i suggested AtomicReference<WeakReference<X>>
pulsar wigeon
OMEGALUL
void void
just imagine
static badge
void void
pulsar wigeon
yea memory-limited references are super special
cuz the referent has to have jvm-level hardcoding
too bad we can't just do like @WeakRef public Object referent;
and have the jvm treat arbitrary annotated fields like WeakReference's referent
unsure if that's a design or technical thing
¯_(ツ)_/¯
woven otter
maybe lombok has that feature
void void
Lombok 
woven otter
cancer
pulsar wigeon
@WeakRef public T referent; -> public WeakReference<T> _lombok_referent; and convert every access of referent to _lombok_referent.get()
technically could work
hot gorge
Seemed to be less weeby in here today. Maximum great
void void
The weeb shit got replaced with retard shit
hot gorge
Need Glare to post more rib pics
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/v7SmIrT.png
I guess that's why
void void
I feel like they did get kicked
But not sure
They were being really unnecessarily rude last night but I just went to bed
hot gorge
I would have kicked a sooner for weeb gif spam lol
vestal jasper
guild
void void
If I remember properly someone was trying to get rid of phantoms with a command block and arisa just starting ripping into them
static badge
who knows why though
void void
I was like ? wtf
static badge
left or kicked? dunno ask the mods :>
void void
Calling them names and shit
static badge
riot time
void void
Just for using command block lol
wait arisa got kicked?
hahaha oof rip irc side
Yeah :p
Interesting that it doesn't paste those links after a bit
Lol I don't understand Spigot's stance on account removal
They will now remove your account, but you're not allowed to come back!
Whatever, tardnuggets.
peak dirge
needed to deal with some school stuff again!
That yielded a completed Nand2Tetris project.
ancient bolt
I'm hooooome
peak dirge
🌮
void void
iiiinteresting.... guess my world's auto-save-interval was set to -1. Not sure what that means lol. I didn't recall that but maybe I skipped over reading that before
rare niche
acoustic pilot
wheee, am back https://i.imgur.com/hVawezh.png
hot gorge
I just backlogged to see the mess. Wasn't worth it
limber knotBOT
Don't you have a phone Kash? ^^
void void
Barcodes are just standardized special fonts, can make a reader from anything really
hot gorge
I use assest tiger for all our barcodes on gear at work.
It's pretty cool. Each code has all kinds of data attached, pictures, serials
void void
I used this boi to read account numbers from barcodes on some papers customers mailed back to us https://github.com/zxing/zxing
hot gorge
Then through the asset system we can check out equipment as it heads onto trucks to go to events
hot gorge
NFC tags are better don't@me
void void
Well for permanent assets sure I'd agree
austere ivy
RPAN was so fun.
hot gorge
I wonder how powerful of a tag I can get. Like, stick one onto a speaker and be able to scan it while it's in it's roadcase
austere ivy
What'd you all think?
pale cape
sick hatch
austere ivy
What’d you folks think about r/pan?
peak dirge
@static badge So, I think I can add a form of async chunk loading/saving to Canyon. Generation is probably going to be difficult...
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yeah gen will be spooky
unborn jasper
peak dirge
yeah now I do want to do async chunk loading, at least
static badge
gl with that one
peak dirge
was going to do something more complex, but yeah, we have CompletableFuture, so I don't even need to write tricky concurrent code that updates the status
static badge
tbh loading is that special thing where you can really just store what's being loaded
and load most of it off-main
peak dirge
so I can make the native path use a CompletableFuture and block if it's a call I can't get the result from immediately or can't wait until the load has completed
static badge
there is some weird stuff you will need to work around like adding entities to the world
peak dirge
I'm only off-loading I/O and the NBT deserialization
static badge
not sure if MC loads it as a read-only chunk then converts?
oh
you could look at how it's sort of done for .14 where it constructs a read-only chunk
where entities aren't added but they're all constructed and such
so you just post the entity additions to the main thread and yeah
peak dirge
I want to do with the same approach first, because doing 20% of the work yields 80% of the results, as I said
static badge
yeah I guess it does :>
peak dirge
The remaining 20% can be chipped away at later
void void
I give up, keeping the optionals, so much stuff is already using the new system
just adding the isPresent check
stiff yarrow
@cosmic raft link me to one
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how's ur intern cat going nossr
stiff yarrow
jealous much?
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jealous 
stiff yarrow
I only offer intern positions to those with write access to paper after all
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austere ivy
Do I have write access to paper?
stiff yarrow
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no that'd be a catastrophe
stiff yarrow
have you leveled up enough to work on my spaghetti farm
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do it no balls
austere ivy
Yes
stiff yarrow
I only experts in noodle appendages may enter
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wat
stiff yarrow
link me to some of your recent projects
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new mcmmo dev
austere ivy
I mean I salt my water before I cook pasta so I mean I’m basically Gordon Ramsey here.
stiff yarrow
anywyas if you show me what youve been doing lately I will consider it based on that
austere ivy
I’m an open book so I’m I’ll learn anything, blank canvas.
stiff yarrow
I don't have time to teach you anything
static badge
does brian even write code
stiff yarrow
you have to be self sufficient
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.g tehbrian github
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austere ivy
That’s my arch nemesis, Brian Pearson.
pulsar wigeon
why the fuck is that a topic
austere ivy
I don’t know.
pulsar wigeon
this is why he's blocked
stiff yarrow
more or less if you are above a certain competency level than I don't mind more devs
static badge
mfw wiz is literally steve shives
stiff yarrow
maybe submit some PRs first and link me to some work you're proud of
austere ivy
I haven’t made anything I want to show people but I’ll submit some PRs and I’ll go from there?
stiff yarrow
sure
static badge
I haven't actually seen brian's code
stiff yarrow
same
static badge
very interested
stiff yarrow
maybe he is a tensai shounen
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.g tensai shounen
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static badge
yeah less weeb more english pls
acoustic pilot
nani
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stiff yarrow
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oh
stiff yarrow
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natural calamity; disaster
stiff yarrow
stiff yarrow
both are pretty apt
static badge
both?
see folks this is what being a weeaboo does to your mind
it confuses natural disaster with genius since all weeaboos are natural disasters
stiff yarrow
btw anyone consider getting a mac for laptop I highly recommend it A+
void void
wait, nossr is a mod 👀
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nossr's always been mod 
peak dirge
ok, done tackling the server side of things for a bit
static badge
being a mod for paper is literally worthless
stiff yarrow
I think my only moderator actions are kicking leaf
austere ivy
I have a MacBook, it’s better than any other laptop I’ve had my hands on. In terms of specs to price? Awful. But it’s nice to type on, I like the trackpad, and the screen is nice.
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graceful wyvern
kicking leaf must be your mod initation
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god damn it
void void
you beat my time by 4 seconds
stiff yarrow
wheres your purple
stiff yarrow
austere ivy
There goes his contributor role can we have an F in chat?
stiff yarrow
I thought we had a bot for this
static badge
it's dead
pulsar wigeon
it's broken
and you just abused your mod powers
way to go nossr
you've fucking doomed us all
you retard
stiff yarrow
its actually part of the requirements to be a mod
austere ivy
Does this mean I can leave and rejoin and be free of my curse? :D
stiff yarrow
1 spotted leaf kick per day
vestal jasper
I like how much leaf values his ability to spam reacts since he can't do it 99% of the time
austere ivy
See I understand how leaf gets the no emotes role but why me? :( I mean I used to yeah but I don’t anymore.
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vestal jasper
stiff yarrow
well I see why leaf got the no reactionsrole now
vestal jasper
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ah feels good to have emotes
stiff yarrow
the smallest bit of power goes straight to his fur infested mind
vestal jasper
@static badge
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void void
aww
austere ivy
void void
the fake Arisa was kicked too
austere ivy
:D
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less weeaboo is always good
stiff yarrow
that is abuse of the system brian
vestal jasper
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void void
wait nevermind, for some reason discord is case sensitive in mention autocomplete
austere ivy
Unlike leaf I don’t spam emotes but I would like to react to messages from time to time. I however don’t have my dumb-taco-hater role however that is a compromise I am willing to take.
stiff yarrow
who
void void
sksksk
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Arisa
stiff yarrow
who?
stiff yarrow
nope
austere ivy
I’m free! I’ve matured! Long gone is the self that used to spam emotes! Long gone is that old self! I’m free!
vestal jasper
I like how my cat was fed an hour ago and now he's asking other people to give him food
static badge
your cat is a fatass
vestal jasper
he is
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Arisa is without shame
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow link you to one what
stiff yarrow
barcode boi
stiff yarrow
define 1D
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rip emotes
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow https://www.scansku.com/au/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/03/1d_2d_barcodes_android-min.jpg
for example
stiff yarrow
Ahhh
static badge
what do you need that for
stiff yarrow
inb4 you say use your phone
stiff yarrow
what happened to the guilt free kicking of spotted bot
austere ivy
flint cairn
lyric pivot
rugged adder
wooden blade
I agree, but I have to say The > Teh
limber knotBOT
Would anyone know how I can stop all new chunk generation in my default world? It's not borderd and it's too late to add a border. I had a plugin called StopGen but it broke with 1.13. Even though new players are rtped to a different world my default world has grown out of control since that plugin broke.
I do hope this is not the wrong place to ask this.
void void
Why is it too late to border
limber knotBOT
Players have homes at extreme coords.
void void
So your idea instead of just bordering right outside of their extreme coords is to stop new chunks, leaving a broken world around them?
limber knotBOT
Yes, they understood why the chunks around them were missing when StopGen plugin worked.
They didn't mind.
limber knotBOT
As of 1.13 it spammed stack traces and crashed the server while new chunks formed.
void void
Seems like that's all there is unfortunately. It would be nice to see the stack trace, I'd try updating it tomorrow maybe if I knew the errors (and it's still reasonably possible).
Doing some school work right now tho
limber knotBOT
I can reproduce the errors and get a pastebin of the errors.
void void
That would help for me to take a look tomorrow
quaint kayak
limber knotBOT
Actually, I was remember wrong. i've tried so many plugins... It's a single error:
"Failed to setup NMS - plugin will not work and will be disabled" "Disabling StopGen"
void void
oh ok it's not really an error
just needs the NMS for 1.13 and .14 added
ill do it tomorrow
limber knotBOT
That would be awesome. You can contact me on discord if you prefer: https://discord.gg/0pkUOvkI9vRNj1Vw @FatherAdmin#1708
void void
joined, I'll let you know tomorrow
limber knotBOT
Thx
I've had a few others look at it but they said too much has changed and they'd have to rebuild it from the ground up.
void void
Yeah, I only had a surface look, but it doesn't seem like NMS is strictly necessary
limber knotBOT
or does it actually cause the stuff to not be generated
Oh I think I understand, it allows for other generators to be used prolly
so it's just a void generator beyond a certain radius
It doesn't allow any chunk generation. It's not generating air or such..
void void
Right, void.
He's saying the reason that it's NMS is that it won't conflict with another generator should you choose to use one.
limber knotBOT
hmm, looked at it some more, I'm guessing it overwrites the chunk loader and returns a dummy NoChunk object on load
void void
Yeah when the world is init'd it sets the chunk provider on the server
sour reef
void void
so in fact, actually, it may just override any other generator actually
sour reef
what is waterfall and how does it compare to bungeecord?
void void
Answer the question "What is paper and how does it compare to Spigot?"
Then replace paper and spigot with waterfall and bungee.
void void
Lots of changes, too many to type out. It adds mechanics changes, async chunks, and other PRs that reduce lag and generally make the game better.
limber knotBOT
it's a fork with more features and performance
limber knotBOT
yes
limber knotBOT
yes
sour reef
-_-
void void
Micro optimizations for speed, better threading, better ping, forge support. And best of all, a wide audience that can PR to it.
Many more things
Like I said too many to type out.
void void
Pull Request. It means to allow you to change and submit it for review. And Paper in general will accept most PRs as long as they are well intentioned and done properly.
Unlike Spigot.
No it will work fine.
sour reef
so in my IDE i dont need to add waterfall to my build path?
void void
Not unless you want to use specific waterfall features in your plugin.
Otherwise it will work fine.
Same for Paper.
limber knotBOT
neato bing https://i.imgur.com/xXFLVFZ.png
sour reef
Okay cool so i just replace my spigot jar with paper jar and my bungeecord jar with waterfall jar?
void void
Yes
sour reef
so its built off bungeecord and spigot thats what a fork is?
void void
It will run all bungee plugins, and paper will run all spigot plugins. no problem
Yes fork means we are just making changes on top of those.
They literally are bungee and spigot, just with changes.
vestal jasper
all spigot plugins made by devs who aren't retarded *
limber knotBOT
void void
Waterfall that includes 1.8 support.
1.7*
(Also snapshots, if time permits, I guess.)
It just has more protocols.
vestal jasper
1.14
sour reef
Okay
any idea whats wrong?
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO java.lang.NullPointerException: null
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.SuperPlayer.Managers.InvManager.getBlackInvTitle(InvManager.java:61) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.SuperPlayer.Managers.InvManager.createHopperInvBlackTitle(InvManager.java:85) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.Lobby.Utils.LanguageManager.openGUI(LanguageManager.java:92) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.Lobby.Listeners.OnJoinLobby.StartPlayer(OnJoinLobby.java:40) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.SuperPlayer.Listeners.OnJoin$JoinCallback.<init>(OnJoin.java:130) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.SuperPlayer.Listeners.OnJoin.createNewPlayer(OnJoin.java:81) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.SuperPlayer.Listeners.OnJoin.onJoin(OnJoin.java:64) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.SuperPlayer.Listeners.OnJoin$1.run(OnJoin.java:49) ~[?:?]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_14_R1.scheduler.CraftTask.run(CraftTask.java:84) ~[custom.jar:git-Paper-17]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_14_R1.scheduler.CraftScheduler.mainThreadHeartbeat(CraftScheduler.java:452) ~[custom.jar:git-Paper-17]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.MinecraftServer.b(MinecraftServer.java:1111) ~[custom.jar:git-Paper-17]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.DedicatedServer.b(DedicatedServer.java:418) ~[custom.jar:git-Paper-17]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.MinecraftServer.a(MinecraftServer.java:1057) ~[custom.jar:git-Paper-17]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:902) ~[custom.jar:git-Paper-17]
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_211]```Capitalized package names
sour reef
As fas as everything above the onJoin lines it looks fine in code
sour reef
WHats underneath null is always the linecausing the error right?
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO java.lang.NullPointerException: null
24.08 06:18:04 [Server] INFO at Core.SuperPlayer.Managers.InvManager.getBlackInvTitle(InvManager.java:61) ~[?:?]```
jaunty oriole
solar cypress
chrome junco
void void
RoboMWM sorry i'll name it Nucleus kappa
wraith wharf
Lemon juice = Lemonade?
void void
no
wraith wharf
Good, now I should give a big middle finger to all who taught me so
But how about drinks that were made from limes?
Limeade?
void void
Lime juice is the natural juice of a lime, same for lemon
Limeade, lemonade are those juices + sugar
It's a sweet + sour drink
The others are just sour
wraith wharf
That's what I learned from real life
void void
When you say <Fruit> + Juice, you are referring to the natural juice
Otherwise, there will be a specific name
wraith wharf
From what I have learned in the text book these two terms are mixed together
void void
No not really
wraith wharf
Thus this confused me a lot
void void
Limeade is limes, Lemonade is lemons
wraith wharf
really, a, lot
void void
But sometimes Lemonade is just generically used to refer to limeade, as they taste pretty similar
That may be why
But it's not 'correct'
just understood
wraith wharf
Maybe someday I should try out some lemon juice
void void
You typically don't drink those
wraith wharf
Unsweetened taste of life
void void
You either use it to make lemonade or you put it on food
It's way too sour
Can make you throw up
wraith wharf
I mean I can eat a whole peeled lime so what could go wrong?
void void
Lemonade doesn't /have/ to have sugar. Lemon juice + water will be lemonade, but meh taste
Same for limade
You wanna dilute it with water
wraith wharf
Ah, okay
void void
Don't just straight up chug the juice
Also yea eating a lemon or lime is not the same, the juice from a bottle is highly concentrated
Many lemons are squeezed for that not just one
So it's fucking sour as fuck
wraith wharf
whAt coUlD go WrONG
void void
@wraith wharf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxlJrMRkfEw
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) One Man. Three Bottles of Lemon Juice. | Furious Pete - length 6m 11s - 83,643 likes, 4,810 dislikes (94.6%) - 8,528,038 views - Furious Pete on 2013.04.17
void void
Just enjoy
void void
void void
@wraith wharf https://youtu.be/lxlJrMRkfEw?t=239
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) One Man. Three Bottles of Lemon Juice. | Furious Pete - length 6m 11s - 83,643 likes, 4,810 dislikes (94.6%) - 8,528,038 views - Furious Pete on 2013.04.17
void void
watch right there lol
wraith wharf
I mean I would only take a mug of it if I want to try that out
void void
I demand a recording
wraith wharf
Not 3 fucking bottles of lemon juice
void void
It's actually really good for your liver
That is
If you can get it past your stomach without vomiting
wraith wharf
soy? soy sauce
wooden blade
Yo, no soy; marinara! Soy, Capitan?
wooden blade
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(DiscordBot) Los Lobos~ La Bamba~ FULL HQ - length 2m 22s - 9,882 likes, 315 dislikes (96.9%) - 3,516,696 views - Lilla Badics on 2009.06.25
wooden blade
I know it's marinero