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acoustic pilot
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my thoughts exactly cat

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Not allowing Aussies to say cunt is like taking away half their vocabulary.

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Some dispensaries be looking more fancy than a Apple Store

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So many people locked up :<

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people using or selling?

acoustic pilot
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Both

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Although more emphasis on releasing the users

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IMO

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users yeah

acoustic pilot
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Dealers need to be screened

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Not all of them gonna be worth releasing

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some of these dudes sell sketchy shit or have caused lots of actual harm

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not to mention anyone affiliated with the cartels (who are big sellers, too) should remain locked up 😛

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but college dude just growing some pot and selling it to pay for his text books and tuition?

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he should be free

austere ivy
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Interesting though since I see both sides.

quick gust
austere ivy
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On one side, weed is harmless and is now legal, so why should anyone be in jail because of it?

acoustic pilot
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The headline is a tiny bit misleading, but the effect is similar.

quick gust
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if they think they gonna take my internet they got something else comin

austere ivy
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On the other hand he sold weed when he knew that it was illegal and he knew that he could get in trouble.

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Interesting little topic.

acoustic pilot
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Basically Trump's argument is that places like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube should be considered public forums and cannot operate like any other private entity with regards to free speech.

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Which, it's a ridiculous argument.

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wat's the definition of a public forum again

austere ivy
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I used to like trump but recently what he’s been doing is so dum.

acoustic pilot
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He's saying that Twitter should be forced to host all speech.

quick gust
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what lol

acoustic pilot
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And they shouldn't be allowed to take down speech that would hurt their business.

quick gust
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whatttt bro

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no

acoustic pilot
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It's a truly ridiculous argument they're making

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Obviously as a private entity Twitter is entitled to moderate its platform however it sees fit

austere ivy
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Hmm that’s interesting.. also very dum.

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I said I saw both sides.

acoustic pilot
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If someone says some thing in Twitter that is either against their policy or goes against public opinion, Twitter has a right to remove that content.

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Trump is arguing that Twitter should not have that right.

austere ivy
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How is that a bad argument?

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Didn’t he do something illegal and he knew that it was illegal? Even if it’s completely harmless it’s still illegal.

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Right I agree with that’s

acoustic pilot
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As a business Twitter is concerned with protecting its own reputation and will remove any speech it deems is harmful to that reputation and ultimately, their profits.

austere ivy
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That

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It doesn’t change the fact that it was illegal.

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I’m not making the argument he SHOULDNT be free, but ..

quick gust
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okay go to saudi arabia and show ur ankle in public and while ur getting hanged think about how u knew it was illegal at the time

austere ivy
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Are you saying that we should just ignore laws if we think they’re dum?

acoustic pilot
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Yep, a lot of bad laws were illegal very recently.

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Err, in place very recently, I mean

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Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's just.

quick gust
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Most people already do

acoustic pilot
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If it's unjust, people who were victim to that unjust law need to be freed.

austere ivy
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Yeah I get that. Some laws are dum.

acoustic pilot
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Or otherwise exonerated

austere ivy
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Ah I get it.

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If it was a dumb law beforehand then it shouldn’t matter after that kinda thing?

quick gust
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brian when can you check out my server

austere ivy
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I can see that.

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Whenever I move from my bed to my computer .-.

quick gust
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alright

fallen oracle
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@acoustic pilot Test run looks better. Is it supposed to say when the library is loaded though on the 2nd run after it's downloaded?

austere ivy
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It’s 5 feet away. So close, so far :(

acoustic pilot
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Yes modern society recognizes that a law was dumb, like really dumb, and we apologize to the people who were caught up by it by exonerating them

austere ivy
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Makes sense.

acoustic pilot
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@fallen oracle Nah, "loading" the library is really just adding the jar to the class path, it really doesn't need its own indicator

austere ivy
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Marry wanna is less dangerous than things like alcohol and tobacco.

fallen oracle
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Alright cool. Yeah the downloading definitely looks better.

austere ivy
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However it SHOULD be regulated because if you have marijuana before you’re 25 or so, your brain is not fully developed, and it causes memory problems.

quick gust
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by that logic anyone buying aersol products needs a special license

acoustic pilot
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I think 18-21 is going to be the reasonable age restriction argument, but I agree that people should be more educated about it and avoid habitual use until their brain has fully developed.

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The key is education

austere ivy
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Yeah.

fallen oracle
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Alright yeah Byte that's actually perfect if you want to make that an official release.

acoustic pilot
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Cool, yeah I'm eyeing maybe another change, not sure. But will do

austere ivy
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I mean we don’t sell alcohol to under 21.

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Marijuana shouldn’t really be any different..

acoustic pilot
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Well, that's only because the federal government holds highway funding hostage so that states have to set it to 21 😃

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There are states that would gladly set it to 18 if they could

austere ivy
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Especially considering that it causes memory problems with regular use under 23-26

acoustic pilot
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I wouldn't recommend it to someone who hasn't already developed a good sense of work ethic and social attitudes.

fallen oracle
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Just throw me a ping when you make it a release 👍

wide chasm
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Do they define adolescence and early adulthood with actual ages in that article, or is this the best we have?

austere ivy
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Somewhere else I think I heard the age 25 is when your brain stops developing.

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Let me find a source.

tacit violet
austere ivy
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The article is pretty informational though so if you have time, take a full look at it.

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Professional googler >:D

wide chasm
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That's great, but there's still no source that says "marijuana doesn't cause these issues when the brain has stopped developing". This only states when the brain stops developing and marijuana can have bad effects on people in their adolescence/early adulthood without actual ages.

acoustic pilot
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Good judgement is why I said I wouldn't recommend it to someone who hasn't already developed a strong work/study ethic.

austere ivy
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That’s the point that I was trying to make.

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I already.. said that.

acoustic pilot
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As if you haven't, it could lead you to neglecting those things.

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By executing poor judgement.

austere ivy
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I just said marijuana should be regulated so that it isn’t sold to anyone under 21.

quasi valley
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making it illegal wont stop people getting it

austere ivy
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If you read further down the article it shows you the ages they studied on.

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Kenny I never said that it shouldn’t be.. illegal

wide chasm
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That part still seems to be mapping a correlation of use to lower IQs.

austere ivy
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Just not sold to people under 21? I mean people will still find a way to get it.

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I get your point yeah.

normal sphinx
acoustic pilot
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We actually cannot know the long-term effects of cannabis on the brain

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Because there are no studies

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It's been illegal for so long that we have basically no studies conducted of the long-term effects.

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So we just don't know for sure.

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bet on the long term it turns ur brain into one big cannabis leaf

quasi valley
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meanwhile our health minister: is asked "why is cannabis forbidden?" - answer: "because it's illegal"

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primed for the leaf army Kappa

wide chasm
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Also the research tests based on IQ, which is also quite eww imo, but whatever.

acoustic pilot
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gonna genetically engineer leafless weed plants

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death to all leafs

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leafless weed plants

acoustic pilot
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leafs are just annoying, adding an extra step to your harvest

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ur annoying

acoustic pilot
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ur bronz

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ur bronze

acoustic pilot
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ur copper

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ur steel

acoustic pilot
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thx that sounds gud

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steel is literally below copper

fallen oracle
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Ur all trash

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glare ur literally, physically, mentally, actually, emotionally, retarded

fallen oracle
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Mfw he just got hotkeys for this shit

austere ivy
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@spotted

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huh

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austere ivy
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@spo

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what

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@static badge

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brian are you being intentionally retarded

austere ivy
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There we go

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Like father like son

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Alright see you later dad

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what

quick gust
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smoke weed every day

acoustic pilot
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yes

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smoke weed never

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you know how many leafs are murdered in poor conditions

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holy shit I can meme vegan this dumb shit

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perfect

random basalt
quick gust
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Would hypixel pay for mc accounts just to set a skin and use their heads as decoration blocks

quasi valley
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you can just set a skin and store their base values as far as I know

golden gust
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No lol

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Once you upload it to mojangs server you have the URL for it

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Once you have that info you can literally just save and and pull up that texture whenever you want

wide chasm
limber knotBOT
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mineskin <3

quasi valley
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ah well

worn ember
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papi

acoustic pilot
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poop

worn ember
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😦

fallen oracle
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Hypixel probably has their own shit anyway, no worries about ratelimits.

worn ember
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no u poop

acoustic pilot
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yes i do poop

round bronze
peak dirge
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Yay. Just engaged a consulting client. First thing I did: downgrade from 1.14.4 to 1.13.2...

fallen oracle
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Lol

unreal quarry
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smh, 1.14.4 isnt even that bad

limber knotBOT
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There are maaaannny deeper issues

golden gust
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fuck

fallen oracle
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Is discord shitting itselfo r is it just me

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.14 is pretty monkaMEGA

limber knotBOT
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Lots of them can be fixed with proper configuration

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Some of them are also down to mc just being funky and blowing ram like a crack wh... erm

worn ember
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yes

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crack hoe

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crack whore

worn ember
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wow how dare you

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ur a whore crack

worn ember
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your ass crack is a whore

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sudden oasis
fallen oracle
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@acoustic pilot What was the other change you were debating on making?

heady spear
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Hi pretty people xx

quasi valley
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did you just assume here is anyone pretty

celest coyote
heady spear
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Magma would be pretty if it wasn’t for his beard

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kashike is a pretty people tho so there’s someone at least

cosmic raft
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<3

quasi valley
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whats wrong with magmas beard thinking_eyes 😂

heady spear
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Everything

woven otter
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weeb

peak dirge
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Yeah, but we're pressed for time. It was easier to do a 1.13 downgrade rather than beat 1.14 into submission.

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I'm sure with time, 1.14 can become a stable release, but at this point, I'm hoping 1.15 delivers stability and performance improvements. My hopes aren't high though.

golden gust
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sees "1.14" and slams face into desk

limber knotBOT
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lol

mortal zinc
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so what did mojang goof up in 1.14?

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are they attempting to overhaul internal systems that ended up screwing up the release?

worn ember
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they pretty much just rushed it

pearl ibex
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What would you choose? A "Kingston" 64 GB SD card, a 32 GB REMAX SD card or a 32 GB one which is given along a Samsung phone?

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First two of 'em are 20$, the last one 15-25$.

wind sonnet
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Which is better?
intel xeon x7560 with 24 cores
Or
AMD Threadripper 2950X  with 4 cores

worn ember
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depends what you need

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i doubt many programs need/can use 24 cores anyway

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but its good for virtualization and stuff

austere ivy
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.flags

limber knotBOT
austere ivy
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Would Aikar's flags be any good for a void world?

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And 1.14?

urban mirage
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Those flags are good, yea

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You should use them

mellow radish
worn ember
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just always use them

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ez

ancient bolt
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fuck

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had something on amazong guaranteed delivery tomorrow

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changed the address and it went to tuesday

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now the tomorrow option is gone

acoustic pilot
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rip

void void
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who knows a /lobby plugin but i want only in survival they can say the command

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What lol

acoustic pilot
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a lobby plugin u stoopid or sumting?

void void
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Yes

acoustic pilot
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fkin nub simple, dont even noe lobby plugin

void void
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i will install chestcommand with a menu /lobby

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xD

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and a click CONFIRM TO GO TO LOBBY

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and thats it

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😃

azure patio
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my brain cells

acoustic pilot
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brain cell*

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u only got 1

azure patio
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true

wide chasm
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It's still plural when it's zero

limber knotBOT
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howdy howdy

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does 1.14 have incredible entity lag?

fresh granite
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yes#

tame surge
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hi!!

void void
celest quail
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Looking for advanced server owners for advice. I used to own servers 5-6 years ago, took a long break away from Minecraft and got back to it. Need some recommendations

azure patio
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:/ depends

golden gust
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I mean

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mfw tech knows something people seem to be missing

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Welp guys, we've seen it all

celest quail
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I'm totally lost with all the plugins and everything. Back in the days, you just had Essentials + WorldGuard and you basically were set

golden gust
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It's basically the same

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Just a lot more spread out and more horrible plugins like essentials + worldguard

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runs

azure patio
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stop running

celest quail
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Old-school server, survival with PvP but with claimable land

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Wondering if I should split my worlds, have one world for mining that I reset regularly and one world for building and all

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Is it really necessary? I've seen servers do that

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Is 1.14.4 that broken even with PaperMC?

golden gust
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That's just so that they don't have to reset the main world

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Nobody cares about builds in a mining world

austere ivy
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Currently using 1.14.4

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I'm getting better TPS than 1.12.2

celest quail
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But then, where would a player go if he wanted to do a skeleton (or iron golem) farm? Building world? (sorry for all the questions, I have been out of the loop for really long, there used to be only one world and cities when I played)

austere ivy
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not even kidding, but it must have something to do with the fact that I use a void world

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for actual chunk stuff, or for survival worlds, just use 1.12.2 if you can

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but survival nowadays is 1.14.4

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so, I asy to you, best of luck.

golden gust
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Really, no matter what you do there are compromises

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The game upgrades and any new blocks etc won't be in already generated chunks

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Having a world to the side that players just mine in and having a world where they can build is just one way to cop out of the hells of upgrades

void void
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sup ppl

quick gust
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sup simple wyd cutie

silent temple
languid sparrow
void void
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.kill DrugsAreBadMkay

limber knotBOT
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unleashes the armies of Isengard on DrugsAreBadMkay.

woven otter
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sup simple

void void
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sup duck got any quack

woven otter
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no only the finest bread

void void
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gae

woven otter
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can hook you with breadcrumbs

void void
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[x]doubt

woven otter
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no

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u

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garlic is new on the market. have you heard of it

void void
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no

woven otter
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i can hook you up

void void
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can i snort it

woven otter
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yes you can smoke it as well

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and inject it

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and it's legal

void void
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what about eat it

jade burrow
void void
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well

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vpn time.

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(again)

fallen oracle
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Did you see Twtich was advertising porn today via Ninjas channel?

limber knotBOT
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alright so let's present a hypothetical

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I have a Linux server running on an AMD FX-6300 and 6GB RAM

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why waste time with hypotheticals

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1.14.4 is eating my TPS for breakfast on this machine

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and we've already fully migrated to 1.14 because I'm stupid

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it's ok

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you'll be fine

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what would one need to do to make 1.14.4 playable for more than 2 players at a time on this update

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because once I get 3+ people my TPS starts to drop

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take some timings, pregen the world

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i've already tweaked the paper.yml file

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already pregened the world

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but did you do timings

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and there's always some entity causing it to lag

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yes

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🤔

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that's how I diagnosed it to be entity lag

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well

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fix your entity lag

void void
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you need a better cpu, really

limber knotBOT
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less entities

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there you go

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the fx-6300 is trash

void void
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and 10+G ram

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You want optimally 2300+

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yours is 1407

limber knotBOT
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i'm thinking about jumping to ryzen 3000

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the single core is incredible

void void
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ctrl+f the model there, and if it's >2400

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do eet

fair cosmos
limber knotBOT
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here's an example

void void
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did you mean ryzen 7 3800x

limber knotBOT
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well possibly

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I just mean one of the ryzen 3000 series CPUs

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probably a ryzen 5 or 7

void void
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it's also been running for 173 hours

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o.o

limber knotBOT
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yeah I rebooted it

void void
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try restarting once in a while

limber knotBOT
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things are good for now

void void
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more often than that tho

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like every 12-24 hrs

limber knotBOT
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ah

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i'll do a nightly reboot using crontab

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thank you

void void
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and yeah basically

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you have a shitload of entities

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and your cpu is chugging

limber knotBOT
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i'm just annoyed because 1.13 was fine on this PC

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i wish i could go back

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just world#isClientSide = true

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solve all lag problems for any cpu

void void
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backups (repeat Integer.MAX_VALUE times)

woven otter
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no eating simple

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that's illegal

void void
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i cant stand this police state any longer

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i will revolt

woven otter
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fucking cops

winter sundial
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I'm being told a 1.14 server is running no lag with 2.8 GHz, 4GB and a bunch of datapacks thonk

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Oh yeah and 16 view distance

limber knotBOT
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lemme see how my 110 plugin 1.14 serbur is doing

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20 tps

azure patio
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datapacks

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rage

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red hulk from 4 dimension runs

unkempt drift
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I like the idea of them. The fact that map makers can do really cool stuff within the world folder.

azure patio
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using datapack for server

unkempt drift
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No ik what you meant,

acoustic basin
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sethbling world edit detapack is better then normal world edit

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just wish it had perm support

void void
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hey wiz you hear that

cosmic raft
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sigh

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namecheap is down

acoustic basin
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???

void void
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I just loaded it @cosmic raft

austere ivy
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@cosmic raft namesilo is good too

void void
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Failed to get status.

void void
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o.o

cosmic raft
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try logging in

void void
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am i caching

cosmic raft
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goes to https://www.namecheap.com/status/500.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/sitefinity/cmsentrypoint.aspx

void void
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just logged in fine

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looking at my domains

cosmic raft
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do you use 2fa?

void void
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no

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that may be why

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Putin Learns Putin Behind Plot To Assassinate Putin - length 2m 56s - 24,881 likes, 409 dislikes (98.4%) - 603,826 views - The Onion on 2012.09.01

cosmic raft
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I wish I could transfer this domain to cloudflare

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sigh

austere ivy
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@void void

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Hold up hold up

void void
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wtf lol

cosmic raft
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good lord

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$17 for a .com now?

void void
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cloudflare $8 spongeeyeshappy

cosmic raft
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this domain is banned from cloudflare

winter sundial
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Ah the server I was told about was hermitcraft lul and the person was trying to get me to admit that 1.14 was runnable without lag with datapacks and 16 view distance

void void
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lolwut

winter sundial
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🤣

cosmic raft
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for violating a ToS apparently. I asked which one and got no response

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this was after being ignored in two issues

void void
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what domain is it o.O

cosmic raft
void void
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lmao

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are you being a cyber terrorist with ur domain

cosmic raft
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nope

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my friend's domain, which is only used for email for him

void void
fringe flint
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never heard of CF doing stuff like that

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spooky tbh

void void
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really have you missed the entire 8chan debacle

woven otter
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hmm interesting

fallen oracle
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Do French people smoke weed or oui'd?

void void
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they smoke crack

tired mirage
iron pivot
void void
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No one will ping me

azure patio
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@void void huh?

void void
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why is it that you suddenly no longer have an umlaut issue devon

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Because I am on my laptop now and not on my phone with the broken auto correct

spiral elk
fallen oracle
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Welcome

tame surge
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anyone here wants to play minecrafteux

void void
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I guess he has a discord now

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hi where can i download paper for 1.14 not 1.14.4

azure patio
void void
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beware, extremely buggy, and totally won't corrupt your worlds

unkempt drift
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haha. Why do you want 1.14 specifically? Plugin isnt updated?

void void
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^^

azure patio
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I don't see reason to use 1.14

void void
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same

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he probably want's to be able to connect to his server from his 1.14.0 hack client but in which case he could just use ProtocolSupport

pulsar wigeon
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why would you link a mirror instead of the official site

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??

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tf?

unkempt drift
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huh?

pulsar wigeon
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who is fionera and what the fuck are you on about?

unkempt drift
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unless I have the wrong official site, its working for me

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but on an original note, where are the 1.14 downloads on the site? Do you have to look back through the builds for 1.14?

pulsar wigeon
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mcmirror

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that's a shitty fucking mirror

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wtf are you looking at?

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stop using mirrors

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use official builds

unkempt drift
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oh right, the API. forgot about that

pulsar wigeon
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you're literally

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on a mirror

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of a mirror

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tf????

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it's paperclip

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it's a patcher

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tf?

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are you new here

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holy fuck you're retarded

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this is the same as every download

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except the old (eg 1.14) downloads aren't on the "front page" downloads

unkempt drift
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yeah, thats what I was looking for earlier. you have to use the site api to get them I guess

pulsar wigeon
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i mean you can use the jenkins too

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jenkins is an implementation detail tho

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the api is not 🙃

void void
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what the fuck is this shit

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im on eli5 and it wont let me post because it's not flaired

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but there is no way to select fucking flairs

fallen oracle
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Why the fuck am I getting emails from the chat control pro dude

void void
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kangarko?

golden gust
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wut?

fallen oracle
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"our servers almost crashed, better sign up for mine academy!"

void void
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you're kidding me

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he's going way too fucking far

golden gust
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not sure if joking or

fallen oracle
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I signed up to see what spigot course was but I have him no permission to send me spam about buying new products.

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Gave*

void void
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Well, he's in this discord.

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Tag him.

fallen oracle
void void
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Let's get an official response.

pulsar wigeon
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is there no unsubscribe link

void void
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(if not that's illegal)

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bold and underlined

golden gust
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ur illegal

fallen oracle
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There is actually but it's very blant

void void
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So not illegal, just sketchy as fuck.

fallen oracle
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It's at the very bottom of a long email

void void
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Oh yeah

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How long is this email

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Is it like his everscroller marketing sites that he keeps littering the web with

fallen oracle
golden gust
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tbh, stuff like that is generally in the footer

fallen oracle
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Maybe it's my fault and I left the option to email me on, I'd have to double check

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I just typically turn those off

golden gust
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(Can we also comment on how "cool" it seems to have come to say that stuff almost crashed your server? Like, wut)

fallen oracle
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I just found it weird he's trying to advertise more stuff to me.

void void
#

Lol.

#

It's kangarko. What do you expect?

fallen oracle
#

The email is about 5 scroll lengths

void void
#

He'll still send you advertisements after you're dead.

golden gust
#

Could you imagine if FB came out and was like "Yea, went down as people started using it"

fallen oracle
#

5 scroll lengths on phone from top to bottom

#

I mean I've seen worse

golden gust
#

"Maybe you'd be alive if you bought spigot course!"

#

runs

fallen oracle
#

I don't need no damn SpigotCourse. I need a [REDACTED BY ELECTRONICCAT]

#

Cause I have a bungee issue

golden gust
#

Yea

#

you should try doing bungee

void void
#

Don't give him fucking ideas

golden gust
#

Leave the rope at home though

void void
#

Everyone shut up kangarko is logging this channel to make hostile products that attack the mc community

golden gust
#

electronic at

fallen oracle
#

I just implemented MySQL into one of my projects but people are going to want bungee so I somehow gotta make the data always be the same cross servers and it's going to constantly be changing

golden gust
#

.rekt

limber knotBOT
#

☑ COR REKT

void void
#

@fallen oracle is just hooking into redisbungee an option?

#

then make it an optional feature to enable bungee support

fallen oracle
#

Probably not cause I can't guarantee they are using it

void void
#

well, hence an optional feature

#

they would need redis

fallen oracle
#

Yeah, but what about traditional bungee

void void
#

you can use messages i guess but ew

fallen oracle
#

What if they got a network with 2 servers and they want to load the plugin on each

#

Yeah messaging is ew

void void
#

only thing i really hate about messages is they don't work unless there is at least one player on sending server

fallen oracle
#

Ikr

#

There's gotta be some other efficient way to make the server load it into memory

void void
#

well for traditional bungee that's pretty much all you got

fallen oracle
#

Big sad

void void
#

redis is a great way to sychronize that. i wonder if there is an embedded redis server for jvm, so you can start one and just not care if they are already using redis

#

(kinda a meh idea)

#

(but it would work lul)

#

Well nvm

#

That defeats the purpose of redis outlasting the server

fallen oracle
#

I mean typically MySQL isn't an issue because you got like per-player data and they won't be on the same, but the issue with Guilds is that you could have people modifying data for a guild on multiple servers and only part of it would go through

void void
#

well tbh, in that case, people are online

#

messages are ok

fallen oracle
#

Cause 1 would override the other

#

Yeah that is true

void void
#

you can make messages pretty by designing a little api around it

#

doesn't have to be too bad

#

idk why it's designed so ew

fallen oracle
#

If there's a lib for it, I'd be willing to try it out. It just sounds like I'd need to make another jar for it

void void
#

i mean you can write your own api around it

#

but that's a good idea

fallen oracle
#

Probably going to be a tedious task no matter what I do

void void
#

what kind of data are you sending

#

format?

fallen oracle
#

Json

golden gust
#

Something hosting from the proxy is going to be your only real alternative to having a proper message broker

azure patio
#

couldn't it be done with queue?

fallen oracle
#

Well each guild is a json object

azure patio
#

like for the writing data

golden gust
#

Then again, even that creates its own kinda gross moments, especially if you wanna scale across proxies, whiiiich.. yea...

void void
#

You could use messages by default, or offer an option to upgrade to proper messaging

#

People who want best sync will use a broker and config it in the plugin

#

Also, consider msgpack to reduce the size of your payload (depending on how large the json is)

#

will increase speed a bit

fallen oracle
#

Currently data only loads once, which is on startup of server.

#

If I sent the whole json object it would maybe be 10-20kb

void void
#

msgpack will crush that

#

it's almost like zipping your data and sending that instead

golden gust
#

mysql

#

loading everything once

#

oh boi

void void
#

yeah i've yelled at him on th at before i think

fallen oracle
#

Well typically with MySQL on a single server, there's no need to read multiple times.

#

Just interval saving.

golden gust
#

use sqlite :L

fallen oracle
#

Lol that'd be a curve ball to introduce that and not MySQL

void void
#

introduce both?

fallen oracle
#

I could, yeah, so do I just ignore bungee support for now?

void void
#

i think that could be priority 2

#

well it depends on you as its your proj

#

but

fallen oracle
#

So do a release with MySQL and SQLite, see how it goes, then introduce bungee support?

void void
#

well what is the main issue?

#

do people want bungee first, or versatile storage options first?

fallen oracle
#

I get asked for MySQL all the time but that might not necessarily be due to bungee wants

#

So maybe they just want MySQL in general

#

Which then I could easily go with

void void
#

Wait what, is it not MySQL already?

#

Thought you said it is

fallen oracle
#

No

#

It's json

void void
#

Oh. To disk?

fallen oracle
#

Flat file json files, yes.

void void
#

Ah ok lol

fallen oracle
#

But I implemented a working MySQL system today

#

I could also do sqlite too

void void
#

Well yea, single servers will like sqlite, multiple servers will probably like to be able to use 1 mysql database over multiple instances (as well as messaging).

#

By default you could have them just query the db every time info may have changed. Which yes, sucks. That is whey they can then have an option to connect redis to all the instances for best sync

fallen oracle
#

Multiple instances will require messaging yeah because the data saves on intervals

void void
#

wats your gh

fallen oracle
#

I'll do basic MySQL and SQLite for now.

void void
#

hey this is bigger than i thought it was

#

(2.5k commits)

fallen oracle
#

I mean it had like 30k downloads before it went freemium

void void
#

r u rich

fallen oracle
#

This isn't small low level shit

void void
#

(u mean it was premium before?)

fallen oracle
#

No

#

It is freemium now

void void
#

rip

fallen oracle
#

When it was free, it had 30k downloads

void void
fallen oracle
#

?

void void
#

it's not indented as far as the others

fallen oracle
#

Ahh

void void
fallen oracle
#

Well the focus here is MySQL (no hate it's my first time working with it on a bigger project)

void void
#

will you accept a pr to use a much cleaner jdbi implementation slipperstars

fallen oracle
#

Of course

#

I'm using HikariCP btw. I'm open to it being more cleaner and abstract or whatever cause then it'll make the SQLite implementation easier, I think.

austere ivy
#

Made some things.

void void
#

jdbi makes it much prettier, i'll fork and pr

austere ivy
#

Very cool 👍

fallen oracle
#

jdbi? O.o

#

Is that different than jdbc

void void
#

it wraps jdbc

#

(and Hikari)

fallen oracle
#

If it's clean, go for it.

#

I'd be down to play with it

void void
#

I don't do dbs without it anymore

#

tbh

#

lol

fallen oracle
#

Woot

#

Let's do this

austere ivy
#

EPIC AMAZING

fallen oracle
#

Fancy

austere ivy
#

giving out uh

#

free wallpapers, here is a portafolio:

void void
#

oml I forgot I lost my ssh key

#

I keep reminding myself every day when I try to use something protected by it

#

I'ma have to go manually break into all my stuff

fallen oracle
#

lol

void void
#

fixin dis shit

#

boy

#

you have a gson instance in every provider

fallen oracle
#

Yurr

void void
#

1 instance mister

#

you shall be charged $5 for every instance i see

fallen oracle
#

It's only in the database classes

#

Only the actual guilds were going to mysql

#

I didn't make it yet for the challenges and arenas and cooldowns

#

I could just throw an instance of gson in the main class and you can grab it from there.

void void
#

good boy

fallen oracle
#

You can or I can, whichever you prefer.

austere ivy
#

@void void

#

some of my amazing work

void void
#

wat u want

austere ivy
#

truly stunning

limber knotBOT
#

out of curiosity

austere ivy
#

just 4 u

limber knotBOT
#

what channel on discord is this fed from

void void
#

shut up brian

austere ivy
void void
#

general

limber knotBOT
#

big thank

fallen oracle
#

waterfall-dev

void void
#

there is also paper-dev and paper-help on IRC

fair cosmos
#

haha

void void
#

and the others

austere ivy
#

glare no

fallen oracle
fair cosmos
#

So I don't want to spam #paper-help with a dumb question so here I go

void void
#

paper, paper-help, paper-dev, waterfall-help, waterfall-dev are all also on IRC.

fair cosmos
#

1.14.4 is shit right?

void void
#

yes

fair cosmos
#

it's not just me?

void void
#

no, it's shit

fair cosmos
#

perfect

void void
#

mojang fucked us

fair cosmos
#

i'm on an fx-6300 which is arguably terrible, BUT

#

1.13 ran like a dream on it

void void
#

thats why for 1.14 you need really beefy hardware

#

because they changed shit and make it insanely heavy

fair cosmos
#

it's upsetting because I can't afford beefy hardware

#

and my players are upset like "fix it"

slow hull
#

1.14.4 just completely fucked my server

fair cosmos
#

and rolling back to 1.13 is not an option to them

slow hull
#

I thought it was a configuration problem but no it just used like 3x the resources

void void
#

yup, thanks mojang

fair cosmos
#

and is it entity lag?

#

every single time I run timings it's either

void void
#

chunks mostly

#

1.13 is pretty bad too compared to old ones no?

fair cosmos
#
  1. Pillagers
  2. other entities
#

and I even pregenerated the chunks

fallen oracle
#

Simple, want me to make that Gson change real quick or you got it?

void void
#

you do it i'll pull it in

fallen oracle
#

Fucking hell making me open my IDE

#

The shit I do for you

#

Show you my meat and ope my IDE

void void
#

:-)

fallen oracle
#

Pretty luck guy

pulsar wigeon
#

wow showing off your meat

#

getting risquĂŠ in here

fallen oracle
#

IDE :B:roke

marble summit
#

Be careful he is actually under 18

fallen oracle
#

Who

#

Wiz is like 72, simple is like 25

austere ivy
void void
#

^

fallen oracle
#

Oh him

void void
#

That's a correct image. I see no meme here.

fallen oracle
#

I CAN'T OPEN MY IDE

#

OMG

austere ivy
#

Sorry.

#

Let me fix that.

fallen oracle
#

It's super fucking laggy idk why

austere ivy
fair cosmos
#

rip

fallen oracle
#

I'mgoing to blame Demon

austere ivy
#

Folks

#

Give me comic ideas.

void void
#

i added dumba$ to your pic up there

austere ivy
#

ok

#

Comic ideas?

unkempt drift
#

Paper

void void
#

yea draw paper logo

fallen oracle
#

I already gave IJ 8GB of RAM how much does this fucker need

void void
#

all of it

golden gust
#

Pretty sure that mcmmo causes IJ to crap itself

#

that would actually be kinda comical if it was creating some oddball leak somewhere, but like, I'm honestly sure that having that project open for too long specifically starts killing my resources

pulsar wigeon
#

glare did you just call me a grumpy old man

#

i'll have you know i'm 73 ok

austere ivy
#

wiz

#

ideas to draw

pulsar wigeon
#

draw a potato

golden gust
#

and then fork it

#

(proclaimed mbax)

void void
#

thats pretty old

golden gust
#

nou

fallen oracle
#

@void void Pushed

void void
#

aight boi

fallen oracle
#

Ima probs head to bed soon so I'll see what you did tomorrow.

#

Gotta get up at 5:30 for the gym

void void
#

aight ima design it so it's easy to add sqlite/mysql/pgsql watever u want

fallen oracle
#

Litty titties

#

And it wraps with Hikari so I can keep my pooling stuff?

void void
#

only gonna impl mysql tho

#

yea

fallen oracle
#

Cool

void void
#

it does it automatically, it turns it into just objects you call methods on

#

queries are abstracted to dao interfaces

fallen oracle
#

Alrighty

austere ivy
#

@pulsar wigeon

#

I don't know why but it doesn't look right.

#

Should I just start over..

#

it looks like a cookie LOL

void void
#

what the fuck is that

#

also better hope wiz doesnt devour you rn for the pingeroni

austere ivy
#

he ask for a potato

#

I give "potato"

#

I'm gonna restart

fallen oracle
austere ivy
#

why'd..

#

why is this made by md

fallen oracle
#

You mean drtshock?

austere ivy
#

well yeah.

#

I suppose, yes.

fallen oracle
#

md != drtshock

austere ivy
#

then does that mean drtshock != md?

fallen oracle
#

Yes

#

md = md

#

drtshock = Trent

austere ivy
#

:o

#

Wait what?

#

I thought drtshock was the group?

fallen oracle
#

No

#

M.O.S.S is our group.

#

drtshock is Trent

austere ivy
#

o_O

#

I'm in M.O.S.S.

#

I thought that was like..

#

WAIT WHAT?

#

What a confusing world this is.

void void
#

what the hell are you talking about

pulsar wigeon
#

blocked like 4 people so far today

void void
#

is brian one

pulsar wigeon
#

indeed

void void
#

😂

static badge
#

next up: wiz is steve shives kappa

fallen oracle
#

Sup gamers

void void
#

hi gamer

fallen oracle
#

HI GAMER

void void
#

hashtag gamers for life

ancient bolt
#

damn the boys is good

void void
#

is techable still around

#

is there a intellij support discord 😆

fallen oracle
#

nO

#

@ancient bolt IT WAS

#

I watched it in like 1 night

void void
#

could try googling your intellij query

tawdry coyote
#

that's like 8 straight hours dude

void void
#

I wouldn't ask here if I could find it elsewhere

fallen oracle
#

That's not much

void void
#

Nothing on their website about one and nothing in google

#

I am asking if anyone knows of one

#

you could ask your query here, theres a lot of intellij users

fallen oracle
#

Imagine going back to school tomorrow

void void
#

Then how do I disable automatic reindexing

#

I am working on moving a ton of stuff over to my expansion card

fallen oracle
void void
#

thanks

#

the magic of google...

#

haha

#

the question wasn't important that I was going to ask on their discord if they had one, I was more interested if they had a discord in general

fallen oracle
void void
#

yeah

ivory crow
fallen oracle
#

Welcome @ivory crow

ivory crow
#

Hello! 👋

fallen oracle
#

Are you here for sunrise yoga?

ivory crow
#

Ah, the thing is I'm actually from the southern hemisphere so I think I would be here for the opposite of that

fallen oracle
#

sunset yoga?

ivory crow
#

Yeah, pretty much

void void
#

im having issues bc of the table prefixes glare

fallen oracle
#

I can get you the hookup.

void void
#

less pretty >:(

fallen oracle
#

I mean you could scrap it but that might be an issue.

austere ivy
#

Simple, what is your avatar?

void void
#

take a guess

austere ivy
#

Tad creepy.

fallen oracle
#

It's me

austere ivy
#

;o

#

I knew it

void void
#

And also that you're storing json in mysql instead of the data itself

#

as now I need gson in the row mapper

#

prefix is not as big of a deal as that is atm

#

and i don't wanna statically access gson as gross

#

does anyone know how to change the default permission value and user of files uploaded in sftp?

fallen oracle
#

If I stored the data itself, that would be hell.

void void
#

not with jdbi though

#

lol

#

:P

#

so instead of 644 root it can be 755 (your-user) ?

fallen oracle
#

Oh it defo would

#

There's like 15 things that make up a single guild object

void void
#

oh boy

fallen oracle
#

Lots of maps and stuff

#

So you'd have to serialize those, etc.

void void
fallen oracle
#

You can just skip it and leave it as is if you prefer

#

I told you, they are big objects.

void void
#

well, are you okay with me accessing gson statically from Guilds? lol

fallen oracle
#

I don't fucking care lol

void void
#

lmao

fallen oracle
#

If it's too much work, just leave it as is, it already works

void void
#

i gawt dis

austere ivy
#

If you have a constructor with that many parameters..

#

maybe make a GuildFactory?

void void
#

brian, shush

fallen oracle
#

No idea what the even is

austere ivy
#

who am I to talk I have no idea what I'm talking about lol

fallen oracle
#

Unless you are referring to a builder.

austere ivy
#

Yeah a builder, that.

fallen oracle
#

I have that also.

austere ivy
#

Ah okay.

#

Glare what's something cool that you'd like to keep that I can draw.

fallen oracle
#

It looks like that because I delomboked it.

austere ivy
#

Something like something that you can use as an alternative avatar if you wish.

fallen oracle
#

Cat made me move away

austere ivy
#

I'm in a drawing mood so if you have any good ideas for something I can draw, yeh.

fallen oracle
void void
#

Depends how you feel about it

austere ivy
#

I can't do that D:

#

Also, is Lombok bad?

void void
#

yes

austere ivy
#

I was considering using it for the amount of getters I have but.. why's it bad?

fallen oracle
#

I would just hold off on anything simple, I am way too tired to agree to anything. I know what I have currently works and I don't want to make other stuff fuck up by trying to clean something up.

void void
#

because it makes your code less clear, and it's old as fuck

#

i mean it doesnt have to be done tomorrow and merged in, lawl

#

can stay in branch till your happy

#

but oki

#

back to practicing trig

fallen oracle
#

I like how I cheated tho

void void
#

on wat

fallen oracle
#

Gson works perfectly for both

void void
#

yea

#

it works, the way jdbi works is that is abstracts converting resultset->object, abstracts queries, and generally makes your life easier after initial setup

#

the result set abstraction is bothersome though, as you're using gson, it of course needs gson

#

but if you were ok with gson being static, then not an issue

#

and also, i figured out the prefixes, should be ok

fallen oracle
#

I mean if you want to remake the SQL to work as the object is intended, be my guest.

#

But after seeing the guild object

#

You might want to run

void void
#

that mapper already works

fallen oracle
#

It deals with a bunch of shit

void void
#

it just needed getGson to be static

#

that's all

#

no changes to how you get guilds

fallen oracle
#

I meant if you wanted to make it store the object itself instead of as json

void void
#

oh nah, fuck that, that would require a full db schema design

#

(which isnt a bad idea, but not strictly necessary)

fallen oracle
#

Yup

#

Okay Im not saying anymore since im half awake

void void
#

lmao ok

silent flame
#

Hello. I'm brand new to the Bukkit API and plugin development in general. I've been pointed toward this server fork, and I'm wondering what API benefits this project has over Spigot's API?

silent flame
#

I feel like this was a weary canned reply. Like a native tired of pesky tourists

#

I'll give it a read. Thank you!

static badge
silent flame
#

Hmm, long list of little things. Since I'm not overly familiar with Spigot, it doesn't mean a lot to me at the moment. Bookmarked it though

#

Are there any large-scale differences in core systems?

wind sonnet
#

Which is better?
intel xeon x7560 with 24 cores
Or
AMD Threadripper 2950X  with 4 cores

silent flame
#

The timings API is neat

void void
#

i made a big dark room for mobs

#

its like 10 blocks high ceiling

#

around 50 x 50

#

where do i wait for them to spawn in there

peak kite
#

do you get the sound change when you enter the area?

void void
#

yea i think so

#

i had like 20 mobs earlier but now it stopped spawning

celest coyote
#

make sure they arnt spawning underground

void void
#

am i okay to do paper reload in console

#

only affects the config right

merry talon
#

which is better, a cat or an apple?

cedar spade
#

cat eating an apple

celest coyote
#

this kills the cat

cedar spade
#

apple eating a cat

vestal jasper
#

this kills the apple

void void
#

whhat the frick

#

i cant combine Eff3 Unb3 + Eff3 picks?

#

"This kills the pumpkin."

vestal jasper
#

D:

celest coyote
#

lmao

#

"yOU JuST MURdERdd THAt PumKIN iN COLd BLood"

void void
#

"and I'll do it again too pepeburn"

celest coyote
void void
#

yea pretty much.

limber knotBOT
#

isnt suicide an confession?

void void
#

we know he was guilty

#

we wanted him to testify against all his friends as well

#

but he "commited suicide" before he could

#

coughkilledcough

#

hes just chilling at his island bunker

ember marsh
severe prism
void void
#

whats the best way to enchant stuff

#

1.12.2

#

books or items? high or low level?

worn ember
#

Yes

lethal fractal
merry talon
#

I'm astounded that youtube still doesn't have a video queue

#

when you aren't casting

vestal tulip
ancient bolt
#

YouTube has weird issues

#

Auto play doesn't work when casting from desktop

#

My biggest announce

#

Annoyance*

void void
#

my biggest annoyance is their retarded recommendation algorithm

ancient bolt
#

Funny thing about that

#

It's designed to get you to click things

#

And it's astonishingly good at that

#

Kinda sad that there's a departure between what consumers want vs what makes a company money

#

Capitalism is supposed to fix that by saying if consumers don't want it companies won't make money

void void
#

i mean, it's not very good in my case

ancient bolt
#

Just another thing capitalism fails at

void void
#

i refresh continually

#

until i finally get something worth watching

#

because it recommends worthless shit

ancient bolt
#

It works for most people

#

Tbh the recommendation system is one of the most advanced AI systems on the planet

#

But it's quality for you is proportional to the amount of data you give it

void void
#

i want STEM oriented videos. it's what i watch already. so why does it give me stupid bullshit like robots reading reddit (which everytime i see it, i tell it NO FUCK YOU), and like "my daily routine", and stupid travel vlogs

ancient bolt
#

But sometimes it just won't be great for some folks

void void
#

i once spent an hour clicking all the robots reading reddit and clicking not interested

#

and yet, it STILL gives me those from time to time

golden gust
#

maybe it knows you better than you know you

void void
#

cat why arent you asleep

ancient bolt
#

"from time to time" so you're saying it is learning

golden gust
#

and you're just lying to yourself

#

I woke up

cunning badge
#

The most issues people are creating are just hilarious

golden gust
#

kinda wish I hadn't

void void
#

i mean i never said it wasn't ai/couldn't learn

ancient bolt
#

I woke up because sleep apnea

void void
#

i just said it is fucking retarded

golden gust
#

u2

ancient bolt
#

But going to sleep again would ruin my day

void void
#

well i had a good sleep schedule going

#

and i fucked it agaibn

#

3:20am