not email
#general
acoustic pilot
they would've sent multiple summons
urban mirage
True
acoustic pilot
not showing up means losing by default so i can only assume she simply had the wrong address on record or just didn't check her mail for a prolonged period
they can confirm that the mail was delivered
oh lmao
urban mirage
Hope you get all solved bro
acoustic pilot
it really depends
azure patio
acoustic pilot
but you shouldn't ignore a fucking court summons
like yeah, debt collectors can sometimes be ignored
but a court summons? c'mon
so I guess even if they shouldn't be able to collect that debt, the fact that she didn't show up to even say that meant they won by default, I guess.
urban mirage
acoustic pilot
That's gonna count as delinquent debt too to credit agencies
Less learned I guess lol
Although "dont ignore court summons" really should've been learned a lot sooner
I got a rough idea, boomers gonna boomer lol
urban mirage
π€
acoustic pilot
Interesting that it took almost a decade after the small claims ruling.
For the govt to actually do anything
urban mirage
In Germany, this would have been issued within a week max.
They donβt fuck around when thereβs money involved
Everything else they literally donβt care about
They just want the mula and thatβs it
acoustic pilot
I guess it just goes to show how over burdened courts are.
acoustic pilot
millennials > zoomers
worn ember
as long as they dont start mumble rapping i can live with it
worn ember
cuz its sad xD
@acoustic pilot https://youtu.be/1lmpGxQnjqk watch this and you'll understand
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Vin Jay - Mumble Rapper vs Lyricist - length 3m 16s - 444,534 likes, 10,271 dislikes (97.7%) - 9,163,478 views - Vin Jay on 2019.02.23
acoustic pilot
i actually listen to pretty much all rap
young thug prob my favorite mumble rapper
worn ember
i really dont like mumble rap
everything else is fine for me too
i will literally shoot you barty lol
woven otter
literally
worn ember
lyrics are what makes rap so good though
worn ember
how can you enjoy rap if you dont even understand what they're saying
acoustic pilot
i can appreciate rap with good beats and flow even if the lyrics are subpar
worn ember
i mean, sure, im all for that but most mumble rap is just bitch this bitch that, you suck, i rock
very repetetive and boring
acoustic pilot
in banging beats with badass flows lol
i mean can you really say Plug Walk is a shitty song, for example?
if you actually appreciate rap, that is
worn ember
you dont even know what i listen to xD
acoustic pilot
right but by your standards, a track like Plug Walk is garbage
but can you listen to it and actually say that?
I picked that because it's on the extreme end of mumble rap
worn ember
yeah it pretty much has everything i dont like lmao
acoustic pilot
man you crazy lol
worn ember
taste differs
wide chasm
Plug Walk is garbage, yes, but I don't like rap, so...
acoustic pilot
damn, truth
never chase a bitch
Mask Off is another great song so fuk u
Future kinda dropping off my radar lately but overall I like him
Too bad Migos all doing their own thing now
They shine more together IMO
But Offset/Quavo are still doing good
Takeoff is just.. who knows wtf he's doing now
His solo album didn't turn out so good
Compared to Offset and Quavo
worn ember
probably dead in the gutter
who?
https://youtu.be/lxRwEPvL-mQ this is the type of rap i enjoy
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) NF - When I Grow Up - length 4m - 1,388,462 likes, 20,747 dislikes (98.5%) - 36,860,833 views - NFVEVO on 2019.06.27
wide chasm
Eww
acoustic pilot
I like all rap. Though that guy has a good flow, lyrics are subpar and he seems like a lower quality MGK.
If we're actually going to put lyrics on a pedestal here
worn ember
MGK lul
acoustic pilot
You have to be honest
Those lyrics are not impressive.
"When I grow up I wanna be rapper" is that whole song
worn ember
no, but the flow is good
acoustic pilot
Yeah, no denying that
But we were putting lyrics on the highest pedestal earlier
And this guy is a poor example of good lyrics
worn ember
why? cuz he doesnt use bitch and hoe 20x a minute?
acoustic pilot
No because they're actually weak
As weak as the weak shit mumble rappers rap about
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Nightcore - City Of The Dead - length 4m 21s - 46,750 likes, 629 dislikes (98.7%) - 4,512,091 views - Lady Tiia on 2016.12.03
azure patio
listen this
wide chasm
I don't know what's worse, the rap, or city of the dead.
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Dance With The Devil - Immortal Technique - length 6m 49s - 364,188 likes, 11,659 dislikes (96.9%) - 42,060,631 views - Steven Petrihos on 2007.10.10
worn ember
well i could name al the lyrics gods but you know them π
acoustic pilot
Yes, I'm capable of appreciating ALL rap π
worn ember
yelawolf is nice
em used to coach him
never even heard of him
he has a few good songs
not that many tho
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) YelaWolf Drops Mic, Fights Fan & Walks Off Stage (Nov. 21, 2016) - length 2m 27s - 304 likes, 44 dislikes (87.4%) - 156,227 views - Southpawer Extra on 2016.11.22
void void
Well Epstein is dead
void void
Is it
acoustic pilot
The news is new
worn ember
its passed a few times already
acoustic pilot
but yeah I broke it in here earlier lol
void void
I just woke up and saw it so meh
acoustic pilot
Yeah
He was on suicide watch, btw. Somehow he managed to hang himself. On suicide watch, you don't have access to anything to hang yourself with
This is dirty as hell.
Someone let it happen.
void void
Hmm...I thought I read he wasnt
In that case, very dirty
Shot 17 times in the back of the head π€‘
acoustic pilot
After he attempted suicide the first time like a few weeks back, he was placed on suicide watch
worn ember
just give him a potion of regeneration
acoustic pilot
Remember the recent news about him attempting suicide?
Yeah he got placed on suicide watch after that
worn ember
watch him kill himself
acoustic pilot
lol
yeah watching him commit suicide, "suicide watch"
Pretty much everyone has a rough idea of what went down
void void
Something is fishy about the whole deal, but I just learned about it. So got some reading to do. But first mission of the day: coffee.
acoustic pilot
Some very powerful people stood to lose a lot by his testimony
(Probably)
Based on the allegations
worn ember
bill clinton is the culprit, you hear it here first
acoustic pilot
Yeah, his death pretty much gonna bring the whole thing out of the spotlight, and I wonder if there's even a federal case to pursue anymore after this
Probably Bill Clinton and a bunch of other rich fucks
worn ember
probably the people in power he sold kids to xD
acoustic pilot
Trump, Clinton and who knows how many other rich dudes, probably celebrating right now
The law applies differently when you're rich and powerful π
The president literally cannot even be indicted lol
Literally, above the law.
The class wars shall rage on
They are only intensifying
As more people are becoming fed up with this duality
acoustic pilot
The justice system isn't as bad as America in most of Western Europe, this seems to be mostly an American problem
For example, something as simple as bail, responsible for so much inequal treatment in the justice system, doesn't exist in those countries.
worn ember
π€ it does here
acoustic pilot
In most of them the concept of buying your pre-trial freedom with money doesn't exist
It's determined non-discriminately
Flight risk or not?
Yes? Jail.
No? No jail.
Money doesn't change that.
no idea, but I can see the flaw in a jury of peers
so Sweden uses lay judges instead of juries
Germany also appears to use lay judges
worn ember
No one:
AI:
acoustic pilot
Japan apparently replaced their trial by jury system after WW2 with lay judges
worn ember
where the heck is nginx π€
austere ivy
I think it's like Apache.
void void
What
golden gust
if I had to take a half dumb guess, I'd say look at the WWW ones
merry talon
oh
merry talon
weird I definitely used http/s with ufw before
austere ivy
I don't get any Github notifications :(
limber knotBOT
ok so there are no more JRE downloads, it's all part of the jdk now for versions > 8?
acoustic pilot
limber knotBOT
What platform
acoustic pilot
Or if you prefer AdoptOpenJDK: https://adoptopenjdk.net/archive.html?variant=openjdk11&jvmVariant=hotspot
Was gonna link to Corretto but couldn't find any JREs for it past 8
worn ember
is there a way to allow ssh to pass over cloudflare? as of now it gets blocked because its not a standard port
and have to either use my custom a record or use the ip
acoustic pilot
No, not without being on a special plan.
worn ember
damn
worn ember
im currently using a subdomain that passes over cloudflare but that kinda exposes me
acoustic pilot
right, so like a different domain entirely, just for purposes of accessing SSH on your services or whatever π
something just easy for you to remember
so you dont gotta type an IP
spare hatch
void void
that was a busy morning
well
afternoon :L
my fiance challenged me to 50 burpees a day for 30 days, so i woke up, made my bed, did the burpees, showered, went out for water, realized we are out of water bottles (tap is fine, i just prefer bottles), so i run to the store, grab 4 cases, come back, finally make my coffee, and now i am here
hi
I thought I disabled the .net optimization service π€¦
this guy.
wide hazel
@pulsar wigeon if a plugin sets the shooter of a projectile, does WG catch it as a PVP action?
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] fuck you
wide hazel
lol
worn ember
he will catch it as a act of terrorism
wide hazel
have a plugin that adds "multishot" and apparently the added arrows are able to damage players in a non-PvP area
merry talon
burpees are the dumbest workout ever
fallen oracle
What's up gamers
dusk drift
Who invited him 
austere ivy
Can anyone help me out on #paper-dev :L
cedar spade
@wide hazel from experience with EssentialsX's /fireball, WG does catch it
austere ivy
MD you have no experience with EssX what are you talking about?
Where are you getting this information from, huh?
fallen oracle
Oh damn
wide hazel
thanks @cedar spade
austere ivy
/s don't mean to be rude sorry :(
What about..
ItemBuilderModifierUtils!
WOAAAA!
cedar spade
I did /pt fireball snowball 2 and fired snowballs at people in a non-pvp region and WG yelled at me
wide hazel
lol
lunar marlin
Is there a paper 1.12.2 or 1.12 that is updated?
wide hazel
wait, can't you set any Entity as a projectile?
so casting to Projectile won't work well
cedar spade
brian you've hurt my feelings :,(
wide hazel
unless I test the class first
cedar spade
...can you?
wide hazel
takes Entity as an arg
fallen oracle
1.12.2 was just removed from the website this morning, but it will appear on the legacy page (Coming Soon β’ ) but you can grab it from the Jenkins.
lunar marlin
Is it suggested to use the 1.13 or 1.14?
austere ivy
1.12.2 for performance
1.13.2 for support from Paper and some other things
1.14.4 for "latest update"
cedar spade
1.15 for time travel
austere ivy
I hope 1.15 fixes performance.
Then we can all be happy and move onto 1.15
HOWEVER I can't stand some of the new textures.
They're just wildly inconsistent.
lunar marlin
I'm making a CTF Plugin completely in skript. and I Love the 1.8 combat and don't know if it would be beneficial to even have 1.14 or to stick with 1.8.8 server.jar
austere ivy
If you wanted to make new textures, go ahead and make new textures.
austere ivy
Don't just make some glossy, and some not, and don't change others at all (grass, dirt, etc)
Brebro, going to 1.8 combat is easy.
Relatively.
Bringing blocking back is as simple as testing if the player is right clicking with a sword in their hand and if so, add a shield to their offhand.
lunar marlin
But blocking is out and buggy
austere ivy
Hmm.
Blocking is a tad bit tougher.
For everything else, just change all item's attack recharge something to 0.
lunar marlin
I mean i can use plugins for that, but still its buggy
merry talon
I'm making a CTF Plugin completely in skript.
void void
\o/ levelled up my trig
i was reading about the precalc class i signed up for and it doesnt seem so bad really, it seems like a lot of it is going to be trig, so doing it on khan should let me get thru it okay lol
i was having anxiety, i succ at math
"rocket science technologies"
woven otter
simple u succ at math
also he edited stuff
noone will know stuff now
it's not irc
void void
wtf he deleted?
woven otter
looks like it
void void
dumb
woven otter
median drum
eager reef
void void
raw prawn
acoustic pilot
lol, sad that I haven't seen this til now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMjDAzUFxX0
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) FLAT EARTH -documentary Beyond the Curve fragment: Jeranism proves the globe..; "That's interesting" - length 53s - 18,171 likes, 462 dislikes (97.5%) - 2,656,908 views - The Plane Truth on 2018.11.18
austere ivy
Brilliant.
It's literally brilliant.
Even after they disprove themselves they're like "ehh well not all tests are positive"
austere ivy
Athiest, christian, male, female, whatever, I think we can all agree flat earthers have 0 brain power.
The greeks knew that the earth was round, I mean this is basic stuff come on.
acoustic pilot
Well even some super nutty religious folks are able to adapt their beliefs into modern science.
austere ivy
They have also said they found that "the moon is round"
acoustic pilot
Flat earthers go beyond nuttiness
austere ivy
tardy lynx
the sun gors round the earth
austere ivy
Like it's not even something that can be pondered. Oh, is there a God? Maybe not? Who knows for certain how the universe/big bang was even started?
But this I mean literally like..
we ..
it's so simple.. it's
There was a comic let me try to find it.
acoustic pilot
Skepticism towards whether the big bang happened is a far more reasonable position at this point than believing the earth is flat.
austere ivy
mortal zinc
as a christian, i feel for the other christians who feel the earth is flat, and try to prove it through the bible
acoustic pilot
lol
mortal zinc
man idk
austere ivy
Currently am mid christian/athiest (since I have no idea what's going on in my life) but I'm pretty sure nowhere in the bible does it point to there being a flat earth.
mortal zinc
somehow we're different and on a flat planet, where everything else is round? eh
austere ivy
People quote one verse that says that there are angels on the four corners of the earth.
But..
But no no no
mortal zinc
@austere ivy i think it comes down to reading the text literally and not in context that presents the problem
austere ivy
^ there you go
mortal zinc
like
austere ivy
If anything though that would just prove the Bible is wrong instead of the earth being flat.
I don't want to be in a religion that says the earth is flat ._.
but I don't think it does.
mortal zinc
the text would make sense to the people at the time, they'd understand what was going on
austere ivy
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I think a lot of people don't understand that the bible isn't just one book, it's a collection of books. And most people know that, but it goes further than that, it's a collection of a lot of LETTERs too.
Not books, not written published books. Some of them are letters to specific people.
acoustic pilot
Problem is that plenty of Christians believe that the Bible is the Word of God.
God is infallible.
austere ivy
Yup. If there is a God then yeah.
mortal zinc
that is our view yes
austere ivy
But I don't think the bible is supposed to be an end all be all to every single question.
acoustic pilot
So the whole "people of the time don't understand" argument doesn't apply
austere ivy
It's just mainly there to get you to understand God, more than the earth itself.
That's my view but what do I know.
acoustic pilot
As a text written by an infallible being, it would be applicable to all people of all ages and eras without modification
ancient bolt
the actual contents of the bible were decided by a group of people ~300-500 AD
austere ivy
Back to trying to get my ItemBuilder to work I go.
ancient bolt
much of that was modified and even modern translations are not correct
azure patio
I'm goddess 
mortal zinc
@austere ivy gl
ancient bolt
is @austere ivy still in denial about god
acoustic pilot
Yeah if it really was the word of God
ancient bolt
i guess he's about the right age for that
acoustic pilot
It's been diluted and isn't any more
austere ivy
leaning more and more towards athiesm but whatever I don't really want to talk about that right now
ciao ciao for now people!
mortal zinc
@acoustic pilot problem is culture changes, and meanings are lost, but you can regain the meaning through understanding
ancient bolt
not really, considering it's not translated correctly
unless you're stating that we should all learn greek and hebrew
mortal zinc
which is why it's most accurate in the mother tongue
nah that's not what i'm saying, that's like saying everyone s hould become a scholar just to be able to read it and understand it
acoustic pilot
No it's really not.
It's saying that it's been translated out the ass that there is no meaning and understanding to derive from it that translates back to the original meaning and understanding.
That in order to achieve that meaning and understanding, you'd need to understand the original
ancient bolt
politics is as much part of the translation process as historical context is
I've talked to people that actually write bible translations
not even coming from me
pseudo haven
the actual contents of the bible were decided by a group of people ~300-500 AD
you mean the NT?
acoustic pilot
But sure plenty of people gonna keep believing that their KJB is divine revelation derived from something meaningful.
And not total gibberish that no longer resembles what it was originally translated from
ancient bolt
I mean the texts that were decided to be part of what we now consider the books of the bible
pseudo haven
there's evidence to suggest the NT was written decades after Jesus' disappearance, but not by eyewitnesses
see Bart Ehrman's book "forged"
mortal zinc
the question is are the changes large enough to remove the gist of the text, instead of being small changes which don't detract from the meaning of the text?
ancient bolt
and yes the NT in general was written quite a while after the "events" it describes
acoustic pilot
so for all we know it's basically full of shit
so you have shit translated from shit
what do you end up with?
ancient bolt
also a lot of it was thrown out when they were assembling the bible because the curators knew it was too ridiculous
acoustic pilot
lmao
pseudo haven
now that's not to say that all of the NT are fake
pseudo haven
it just means it is comprised of oral traditions which may or may not originate from Jesus' lifetime
mortal zinc
well, the bible is the best i have to lean on
acoustic pilot
well we already know how oral traditions pass along
they don't survive very well
lean on for what? values?
honestly you get that from a self help book
if you really wanted
with a lot less pages
you could summarize the bible in 2 paragraphs probably
like the actual important values
if you want inner peace i suggest taoism
mortal zinc
i mean i do derive my morals by wanting to be more like Jesus, so yeah, you could say that. It's hard but I want to be more like the character he was
acoustic pilot
it's not hard to be like jesus
you dont need the bible for that
be a friend to everyone, dont hate on immigrants or poor people, redistribute your wealth to the poor.
that's really all there was to jesus' lifestyle
mortal zinc
honestly though, something i wanted to say was that it's hard to find the truth in something when there's so much noise
it's no surprise there's so much tension with the bible
mortal zinc
how so
ancient bolt
the jews were never kept as slaves in egypt
mortal zinc
well that's a loaded question
ancient bolt
genesis is not how the universe was created
jesus didn't do any of those miracles
paul was not an apostle
etc etc
acoustic pilot
I think at best Jesus was a really cool dude who moved a lot of peoples' hearts, but yeah
That's about it
And he did it by favoring the weak and poor
mortal zinc
why is it so hard to believe he performed the miracles the bible claim he did? because science hasn't proven that kind of stuff?
ancient bolt
yes
acoustic pilot
because so much else in the bible is wrong
why is it that so much is wrong
but suddenly miracles, that one has to be right
why pick and choose your beliefs?
like you know for a fact that what Demon was saying about the falsehoods in the bible are true
i'm willing to believe all the non-supernatural stuff is true or has some basis in reality
ancient bolt
I was born and raised in the church
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I've had to come to this realization myself
took a long time and wasn't easy to admit it to myself
but not intentionally carrying that cognitive dissonance around is so nice
ancient bolt
yup
mortal zinc
yeah
true path
acoustic pilot
Like I consider myself agnostic, I leave myself open to a higher power, my answer is "I don't know"
ancient bolt
I've seen nothing to indicate there's any kind of higher power outside of reality / science whatsoever
acoustic pilot
Atheism seems like "I know for sure there isn't a god"
mortal zinc
big bang doesn't sound supernatural?
ancient bolt
but hasn't affected me in any way and there's no evidence of it
no big bang isn't supernatural
mortal zinc
well ok, so i'd assume then you're an evolutionist
acoustic pilot
I'm definitely not a creationist, that's for sure.
But if you got a non-creationist theory that contradicts evolution, I'd love to read it.
mortal zinc
to be it'd take more faith to believe that this all happened out of nothing, there's no meaning behind the complex process such as small changes between organisms that produce all the abundance of life on this earth
acoustic pilot
I don't believe everything started out of nothing either π
ancient bolt
assigning meaning to things which have none is something humans are great at
acoustic pilot
But I'll chalk it up to things that I don't fully understand yet
mortal zinc
@spare venture i think that's a good mindset to have, what's the point of an argument when nothing but stress comes between the arguing parties? there's no point
ancient bolt
and evolution require no faith
evolution is extremely well defined through evidence and history
acoustic pilot
And delegate expertise to astrophysicists.
vapid forum
mortal zinc
so is there an objective morality, or is morality something that's just relative?
mortal zinc
so you have no more right to live than someone else has to kill you?
acoustic pilot
In nature, without the laws of humans, sure
fallen oracle
What did I just come back to π
mortal zinc
hmm
acoustic pilot
What's moral to you may be immoral to someone else.
Who are you to say that the act of killing is immoral?
What if it's for a moral reason?
You are you, it's your morals.
It's not objective.
As a society we've collectively determined that killing people is bad
But even our society justifies killing people some times
Even children
acoustic pilot
No I don't associate that which imbues morality with God
Why are you so sure that a God-like figure would be moral?
And would fit into YOUR moral standards?
What if the God that another group of people believe in is real, and that God believes in killing people who arent part of that group
mortal zinc
honestly i don't think i'd be able to pitch a standard that would work for me, nor do i think it can be found in society either, but hey that's my understanding
somewhere along the lines
and this is even not a century old
scientists felt it was ok to take away the liberties of those predisposed to illnesses, take away their choice to procreate
i think that was psychiatry
acoustic pilot
Not really sure what that's about, but are you suggesting that some scientists being bad has affected your confidence in science?
ancient bolt
morality is something we have to collectively decide as a society, and it's constantly changing
50 years ago interracial marriage was considered bad and homosexuality was awful
acoustic pilot
Indeed, what was considered moral 500 years ago would probably not fly today. And vice versa.
Let's even go back to the time of Jesus
ancient bolt
now we're working on fixing that as those are no long considered immoral
acoustic pilot
See what morals were like then
mortal zinc
@acoustic pilot i feel it does undermine our ability to determine what's right and what isn't yeah
ancient bolt
jesus lived in a time of extreme patriarchy, which jesus never really spoke against
mortal zinc
if there are objective truths and i believe there are
i'd say there are 2 things that will always lead to a better life
love and understanding
void void
what the fuck are you guys talking about
didnt this start from brian linking flat earth
ancient bolt
I personally live from the perspective of, I can feel pain and understand others can as well, so I believe causing pain to others is bad. Furthermore, people doing things which causes no pain to others is probably not an issue
mortal zinc
@void void yessir lol
acoustic pilot
There is such a thing as too much love and too much understanding, or malicious love and malicious understanding.
mortal zinc
funny how that happens
acoustic pilot
So that doesn't sound so objective.
ancient bolt
from there I make decisions about what I believe to be moral vs not
mortal zinc
good point byte
mortal zinc
that sounds good on paper demon, but idk if that's sustainable, but it sounds probable
mortal zinc
@acoustic pilot are you stating that subjectively, or objectively?
quick axle
acoustic pilot
You tell me
mortal zinc
i mean sure based on your understanding of the world i'd say it's subjective
acoustic pilot
I think you're starting to understand this whole objective vs subjective thing now
mortal zinc
the same thing that you left xD
acoustic pilot
I hope you start to apply it more broadly to include your beliefs too.
austere ivy
tough though because each one requires a tad bit of faith
evolution is based off of science, sure
but what caused the big bang?
you just kinda have to have faith that the big bang just happened because it happened.
mortal zinc
well i'm convinced of a supernatural, through my own experience and the testimony of others, so that is my current worldview
acoustic pilot
believing in a supernatural is not nearly as crazy of a position as believing in the bible
austere ivy
I think the main thing though is that if someone is wrong about God and there is none, it doesn't really matter
mortal zinc
ah, well then i just might be one of those crazies
austere ivy
because if this is all an accident, all our lives are super duper meaningless
if the earth has existed for billions of years then our civilizations existing for mere thousands don't mean a single thing
which is a pretty sad reality honestly, but whatever
so, I guess, if Vector's wrong about God, so what?
it doesn't really change a single thing.
life sucks, gosh.
we're just plopped in here trying to figure this all out.
I'm going to go eat food, see you all.
here's a meme for you to enjoy whilst I'm gone:
acoustic pilot
I can understand believing, even wanting to believe in a higher power
mortal zinc
but when you're faced with the cruel realities of the world, it becomes harder to believe in a God that loves everyone
acoustic pilot
But in order to believe in the shit that's written in the bible, you have to undergo insane mental gymnastics that will be so hard to undo later.
If "love and understanding" was the only thing written in the bible, I'd actually support the shit out of it.
austere ivy
eh
acoustic pilot
But it's full of totally, completely bullshit things that you actually have to warp your brain around to make sense of and accept.
austere ivy
let's not pretend christians/thiests are the only possible crazies out there
mortal zinc
but, the only way that he could love everyone is giving them the choice of freedom, even the freedom to deny his existence
austere ivy
there are plenty of athiests who are, dare I say, much more crazy than christians/thiests could be
acoustic pilot
Oh they're not crazy in the way you're thinking
These are normal people, carry on lives normally
They just believe crazy things
austere ivy
whatever I'm actually getting really hungry,
it's 6:45 pm where I live and I haven't eaten today
mortal zinc
o.o
fallen oracle
Y'all still fighting?
mortal zinc
and somehow i'm active in a discord i've rarely chatted in for months
that's partly because i've started playing minecraft again, and enjoying it
fallen oracle
Yuck
mortal zinc
and i still like this community
austere ivy
I don't
mortal zinc
lol
austere ivy
papermc is quite toxic and I'm getting tired of it
fallen oracle
Who the hell plays Minecraft anymore
austere ivy
^ example above :O
acoustic pilot
can we abort brian?
mortal zinc
so you believe in determinism?
acoustic pilot
wtf does that mean
lol
you ask the whackest questions man
it's like if you had gone up to someone and asked
"you're a statist?"
fallen oracle
void void
or as salman khan would say
"i walk up to you on the street and ask what is the arctangent of -1"
mortal zinc
since that's a stance atheists have what with evolution and all
where we have no freedom basically, our thoughts are nothing more than what are determined by our genetic makeup
that's determinism i think
acoustic pilot
I think our genetics has an affect on our brain chemistry, sure
I don't think being gay is a choice for most gay people
But I do believe we have free will, yes
mortal zinc
i see
acoustic pilot
lol watching anime and this mf really just did the salt bae meme
second time I've seen an anime do it
misty crest
fallen oracle
How far did you get on Libby, Byte?
acoustic pilot
Somewhat, I mean I know what needs to be done but not entirely sure how I'm gonna do it
I still have the project open π
uneven shell
fallen oracle
Okie
Bungee has something with logging that's dope but I forgot what it was. Apparently you can modify already logged lines
So you could do like a percentage bar type thing
void void
alright who's good at math, because im trying to do "evaluate inverse trig functions"
and the question is "What is the principal value of arcsin(0.43)"
no calculator.
in the video, he was working with special triangles so ezpz. But this is in radians, and doesn't appear (to me) to be a special triangle. So...I mean. I know the range of arcsine is -pi/2<0<pi/2. But...that's it?
is there a "on paper" way of solving that??? or maybe i am missing the point.
fallen oracle
But it's only available in bungee?
acoustic pilot
no it's just not done anywhere else except in bungee
spigot/paper uses jansi and should be capable too I think
might be wrong
fallen oracle
Ftr simple, I'm trash at math.
void void
you can just use ansi lib? but if you want to, you can either just depend explicitly on net.md-5.bungeecord.logging (or whatever the artifact is)
or rip it
fallen oracle
Byte I think it would be cool to have Libby use that, download perfecntage overall or loaded overall, would be simple and not spammy.
acoustic pilot
could look at it yeah
void void
ftr glare?
void void
yea to get my cs degree i need to do all these math classes
fallen oracle
Same
tawdry coyote
simple, if you still need help w/ the math problem, I would suggest converting it to degrees and seeing if the degree is related to a special triangle (e.g. like if the degrees was 30 60 90 120, etc)
void void
yea i did
fallen oracle
That'd be awesome Byte
void void
degrees are like 24.483583453
so it's not
(i just smashed the decimal places, those aren't accurate)
fallen oracle
So it could be like
Downloading Dependencies...
======= Percentage bar ==
Dependencies Downloaded!
Same for loading
void void
oh fuck i think im retarded
it's multiple choice.
range is -pi/2<0<pi/2
so i find the ONE choice that fits the range
jfc
but i still would be interested in if there is a "on paper" way of solving that, i would guess no because it's not special
hot gorge
If f is a choice I'll eat my slippers
void void
would have to use calc
fallen oracle
Boutta take Calc 1 ftw
tawdry coyote
if you used calc you would end up with a jank fraction so
fallen oracle
Derivatives let's gooo
void void
yea, but at least i would be able to find the angle
that's all the question is
"here's the arcsine of some theta, what's theta"
void void
but ok these are fine now, i get it. i'm just using the inverse trig function ranges
aight
quick gust
any1 want to check out my server? 4.5k lines of java and i dont even know java but it works so
tawdry coyote
...
hot gorge
Hard pass
fallen oracle
@void void you said it's call ansi that does it?
void void
yes, but actually thinking about it the bukkit logger doesn't use ansi (i don't think), so I'm not so sure it would be an easy thing to do
fallen oracle
Yikers
That sucks
Would be cool
Why does one platform use one and the other deosnt
quick gust
tehbrian wanna check out my server
worn ember
is it possible to cancel the disconnect event?
i need to recreate SAO for educational purposes
dusk drift
u cant stop the client from disconnecting LUL
fallen oracle
You could it would just timeout
dreamy barn
worn ember
π¦
acoustic pilot
damn bernie bein savage on twitter today
plucky basin
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void void
.dontask
limber knotBOT
fallen oracle
Surrr
austere ivy
sure @quick gust
also
1.14, performance with paper, how is it now?
1.14.4*
.nohello
void void
Z decided that one is too mean
austere ivy
Demon, can .nohello be added as an alias for https://www.nohello.com
Oh, okay.
That one is too mean?
void void
guess so
austere ivy
Eh, I feel guilty of it myself.
I commonly say "Hello!"
then.. typing..
Figure it's useful but yeah.
void void
i mean, because sometimes hello is nothing more than just hello
i could see it being used in paper-help, if this entire discord were just paper-help
but there are a wide variety of topics here
like flat earth and politics and aliens and steak and shitposting and memes
austere ivy
PaperAPI 1.12 vs 1.14?
acoustic pilot
aliens invented the flat earth theory and spread it around to prevent humans from ever becoming space faring and coming to destroy their world
void void
which of course as you know is because they reached time travel knowledge before humanity, saw it, and then took action
acoustic pilot
yep
void void
mint cypress
void void
anyone can input translations into google translate, you know this right?
if there wasn't previously a translation, it probably just took it
so it's literally a shitpost
if you go word-for-word
fud=food
kondo=bulb/tuber
so perhaos they are talking about a food that has a bulb/tuber such as an onion.
i actually hate that meme trend of people using an african language and typing something into it and have something stupid or even racist come out in english
don't translate owo uwu owo on google
scenic iris
void void
marsh charm
wish there was a spigot/paper plugin to do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_HL309IZ0M
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pulsar wigeon
not about to watch a 20 minutes video, but craftbook has dispenser autocraft
fallen oracle
Yeah but what do you know about craftbook, you're just a Skript developer.
pulsar wigeon
i mean tbh idk much about craftbook either
haven't worked on that code base for like 8 years
fallen oracle
on craft complete:
Move
terse crypt
marsh charm
looking at craftbook now
does seem a little heavy for just an autocrafter but we'll see 
pulsar wigeon
yea i said "has" dispenser autocraft
not "is"
but you can enable/disable mechanics individually
marsh charm
so much i can't even find the autocrafter in the documentation
probably named something different, trying to go through releated things lol
void void
.g craftbook dispenser autocraft
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void void
.g site:enginehub.github.io dispenser recipe
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[wizjany] o is that what it is
marsh charm
doesn't seem to be an autocrafter unless I"m reading it wrong
void void
it only looks like there are 6 possible results unless you can make it do your own custom recipes
@ wiz
marsh charm
I think I found the autocrafter as one of the ICs
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] /shrug
marsh charm
austere ivy
Whatβs Mana?
void void
esper
austere ivy
Oh.
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] o, that's what i was thinking of prob
[wizjany] didn't realize they were different things
marsh charm
looks like this could work, are there any other mods that include autocrafters I should look into before deciding what to run on the server?
past siren
limber knotBOT
is there something different between spigot and paper, cuz for some reason some features just flat out don't work when I run the plugin in spigot vs. paper https://github.com/MLG-Fortress/ExtraHardMode/issues/186
with materials or something
(it works in paper, not in spigot)
hushed lotus
lunar marlin
Am i allowed to ask about something in skript here?
limber knotBOT
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void void
and you may or may not get shit for using skript
limber knotBOT
wut about #paper-dev @simplydum
void void
was talking to brebro
limber knotBOT
:c
idk what's up, but I'm 95% sure it's spigot's fault
if a plugin that depends on spigot-api works in paper but not in spigot
void void
o.o
true canyon
"idk what's up, but I'm 95% sure it's spigot's fault" put that on an inspirational poster
limber knotBOT
make a graphic 4 me
void void
sinusoidal equations are kicking my ass
true canyon
cosmic raft
hi
void void
limber knotBOT
amazing, captures the sentiment exactly
the mystery deepens, after restarting the server it works
so I guess I'm wrong
austere ivy
How many gsh drn tacos do I have to eat at taco bell to get the role??
limber knotBOT
-9000
void void
you have to have mountains upon mountains of tacos to be taco lover
limber knotBOT
mighty taco is best tacos
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what the fuck
void void
also, isn't the only taco role to be a dumb taco hater? why are you aspiring to be a dumb taco hater brian
are you a fucking enemy of the state
austere ivy
I ate 9 tacos in one sitting
ancient bolt
@austere ivy is now officially a dump taco hater
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that is disgusting
ancient bolt
you're worse than leaf
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worse than u
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goteem
ancient bolt
being worse is associative
you're worse than me
he's worse than you
he's worse than me
austere ivy
:(
austere ivy
Iβm worse than leaf?
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ur better than demon boi
austere ivy
Well thatβs not a very high standard
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oofers
austere ivy
Itβs an ULTRA HIGH standard because demon boi the best boi <3
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mfw
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ancient bolt
lame attempt is lame
austere ivy
You know what else is lame?
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ur
cosmic raft
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cosmic raft
:)
austere ivy
forever!??
cosmic raft
and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever
limber knotBOT
welcome 2 dumcord
cosmic raft
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heady steppe
mortal zinc
is there a way to make the paper build system recognize spaces in path names?
seriously you'd think this is possible by now
void void
that's an os thing
vestal jasper
Use proper directory names :^)
void void
^
acoustic pilot
so am i, but i don't have spaces where i have paper
void void
Windows users have a gigantic fetish for spaced filenames/dirnames
vestal jasper
No one said otherwise
mortal zinc
well uhhh
vestal jasper
Just because your OS allows spaces in file names doesn't make it right
mortal zinc
let me show you where i have my files
mortal zinc
D:\Project Files\Forked Projects\Paper Minecraft Server\Git Code
void void
lol
void void
ProjectFiles/ForkedProjects/PaperMinecraftServer/GitCode
what's the issue
why the fetish on spacing
i dont understand
acoustic pilot
it's such a trivial thing man
void void
My feed has finally hit the jackpot lol
mortal zinc
and yet there's no appreciation for those who don't want to have a folder without spaces
i can't believe this thing doesn't get addressed lol
void void
paper is a community
vestal jasper
Because most people are sane human beings
mortal zinc
that's a pretty terse attitude man
vestal jasper
Or bounty it
void void
and yours isn't?
"i can't believe it's not addressed, i can't believe this!"
"someone needs to do this!"
mortal zinc
a little upset at this yes
mortal zinc
is that why the path names in linux have no spaces?
acoustic pilot
i mean it's firstly a very trivial thing that nobody else would rank as an actual issue on their issue list, so given there isn't much interest and that it's a bit of a hassle, i don't see why it should be addressed in any particular haste
acoustic pilot
certainly if it's important to you, you would be willing to make the contribution yourself
vestal jasper
"How dare you not prioritize my issue in specific and ask me to resolve it myself!"
void void
they serve no functional purpose
acoustic pilot
in the spirit of this community and open source in general
void void
use camel case, problem solved
mortal zinc
LOL
void void
or add dashes in place of spaces
well hands down, i hardly think this needs more discussion
the point is: if you want it done, go add the PR yourself
^^^
this is a community, not a bunch of us doing the work just because
mortal zinc
it's interesting that no one else has brought this up but me
acoustic pilot
pretty much, nobody is gonna be in any hurry to fix something that is basically just cosmetic and is a hassle
void void
because most of us dont care about spaces in paths
mortal zinc
well you wouldn't normally have to if you spend your time in a linux environment
void void
I used to care about spaces
before I learned everything in linux hates spaces so I dropped that real quick
and what does that tell you about most of the people in here
you /can/ have spaces in a linux path btw
acoustic pilot
I spend 99% of my time in a Windows environment and I still don't deal with them in my projects
acoustic pilot
C:\Users\Byteflux\Projects\PaperMC\Paper
void void
I make sure my users on windows don't have spaces in them when I create it, and rename the user later so that the user directory doesn't have spaces and doesn't cause issues
mortal zinc
interesting spot to have a projects folder in
acoustic pilot
I mean it is the user's home directory, effectively.
Works out well with Git Bash too
mortal zinc
so no this is not a problem, i can address it, just figure i'd whine about it for a 2nd time and see what transpires
void void
when I created this user for example I put Devon and waited to boot to desktop then went in and changed it to Devon Casper, now my user folder is C:/Benutzer/Devon
mortal zinc
i'm not good at shellscript anyways to figure out what to do, but this conversation has me thinking perhaps it's not big enough of an issue at any rate
acoustic pilot
worst case if you have spaces in your user dir you can just use C:
oh looks like that won't be a problem with your set up
you're already using a non user dir on a separate disk
so just gotta rename it
mortal zinc
yeah
void void
ive noticed a lot of windows users dont use their home dirs like almost any other os would
my home dir is straight up my files, so anything can go in there. the folders inside (Documents,Music,Movies,WhateverTheFuck) are just dirs in my home.
so why is Projects in home an "interesting place" to have it
it's like...the correct place
mortal zinc
i try to keep everything organized, so that's why my forked projects were amongst all the other kind of projects i have
void void
they aren't Documents, they are Projects. and they don't need to be on the desktop
so...a folder in home does perfect
void void
exactly
mortal zinc
that's convenient
acoustic pilot
oh looks like it might actually be the windows home too, cmd.exe also puts you there
acoustic pilot
so yeah, it's a convenient place. and all the programs you use that are linux-based originally, are probably going to store their data there too, like Maven
well linux-based probably not the right word
but following a similar data storage pattern where all stuff goes into home dir. windows has its own data directory where programs are supposed to dump stuff
cerulean thicket
has anybody by any chance written a script to automatically fetch the latest build of paper
mortal zinc
D:\Projects\Forks\Paper
I suppose this conversation did me some good after all
acoustic pilot
It shouldn't be too difficult to fetch the latest version from papermc.io, there's an API for getting the latest release
no idea of any public scripts, but easy enough that you could probably do it on your own
merry talon
upper case 
cerulean thicket
not SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE 
cerulean thicket
so pascal case
acoustic pilot
UpperCamelCaseMasterRace
cerulean thicket
It shouldn't be too difficult to fetch the latest version from papermc.io, there's an API for getting the latest release is there a place i can view the api endpoints 
unreal quarry
acoustic pilot
For example this would be the endpoint for the latest 1.14.4 https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.14.4/latest/download
I would recommend sticking to the point releases
When automatically downloading updates
Since updates between the actual point releases can be big
And breaking
cerulean thicket
as opposed to the -pre releases? or am i misunderstanding
acoustic pilot
Like prevent automatically updating from 1.14.4 to 1.14.5 (if that ever happens) for example
cerulean thicket
oh, that's what you meant
acoustic pilot
Only update between builds of the same release like 1.14.4 or 1.14.5, but not from one to the other
Since that can be potentially very breaking
cerulean thicket
yeah i'm going to hardcode 1.14.4 in my script until 1.14.5 has stable releases then hardcode 1.14.5, etc etc
thanks for all the help
merry talon
how about camel-Kebab-Case
acoustic pilot
honestly go to hell and dont come back
cerulean thicket
SCREAMING-KEBAB-CASE
cinder rock
acoustic pilot
@fallen oracle im probably just gonna condense the logs similar to LuckPerms
void void
who's going to hell and not coming back
acoustic pilot
most of it is pretty unimportant, only need to know when shit fails really
inland fiber
Hey guys what do you think of this :>?
https://mineacademy.org/project-orion/
vestal jasper
4.85 Stars 789 Reviews
Ok and where are these reviews
O found them
Wait no those aren't reviews for the service those are reviews for their fucking plugins
void void
gigantic marketing page that scrolls forever, do i smell kangarko
yup i clicked about and kangarkos face is plastered on the front of it
acoustic pilot
it's garbage, stay away.
fallen oracle
@acoustic pilot WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
void void
lol he's in here
acoustic pilot
similar to LuckPerms, LESS LOGGING
fallen oracle
SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE
acoustic pilot
simply downloaded and relocated messages
fallen oracle
IT ALREADY DOES THAT
acoustic pilot
it does more than that
fallen oracle
SHOW ME
acoustic pilot
no u
acoustic pilot
imma commit these changes and if you dun like you gonna have to PR me ur vision
but basically it's just a lot less logging
acoustic pilot
i dunno maybe a few mins
fallen oracle
okay so if i hold shift it wont caps
inland fiber
Ok stayed away
acoustic pilot
alright, it's deployed as a snapshot right now, 0.0.2-SNAPSHOT, will release it later if you tell me it's OK or if i check back later and it's OK, gotta bounce for a bit
pretty much no changes, just drop in the new ver
you can be my test subject :p
cerulean thicket
https://haste.kuro.mu/cujarerofe.ps1 in case anyone with powershell wants a script to check for paper updates and download the latest build if it exists
feel free to modify it as you please, i had to google almost all of this code :D
(it's a hastebin link, not a download link, i promise am not scamming u)
summer parrot
How can I disable the rain in 1.14.4?
void void
unkempt drift
@summer parrot do you want to disable all weather?
there is a gamerule for that
doWeatherCycle
summer parrot
π
void void
god damn it
i finally did this sinusoidal right but clicked one (1) incorrect answer
void void
wat
fallen oracle