general

[acoustic pilot]

Paper 1.8.8 is totally unsupported and paperd requires server-side modifications that will never be officially backported.

[limber knot]

grow up

[warped spear]

what are the best ways to save bandwith on a minecraft server

[acoustic pilot]

I would say that's not really a practical concern.

[limber knot]

so if a new version of paper gets released i can still replace it with the older one right ?

[acoustic pilot]

MC consumes and produces so little traffic.

[warped spear]

last time i tried to run a forge server that turned into the bottleneck

then again that was 400 mods

[acoustic pilot]

Oh well mods are probably crazy

I guess I'm mostly thinking in the context of a Spigot/Paper server

Bandwidth never becomes a practical concern in that situation

[warped spear]

oh i am just asking for regular / sponge

[limber knot]

would this be ok for paper " java -Xmx2048M -Xms1024M -jar paperclip.jar PAUSE "

[warped spear]

paper runs great

sponge is ok

vannilla is scary

[acoustic pilot]

I guess with Forge mods they probably do their own crazy bloated network communication

Probably sending JSON thru plugin channels lol

[limber knot]

guys is it ok or not ?

[warped spear]

might not have helped though i was screwing around with tick accerlation via equivalent exchange

i think i was running the world at something like 500x the speed of regular to mass produce red matter

would literally change from day to night and back again faster than i could do time set 0

[limber knot]

is this ok for paper ???? "java -Xmx2048M -Xms1024M -jar spigot.jar PAUSE" ??

[acoustic pilot]

That seems like something you shouldn't do, rather than trying to optimize 😛

[warped spear]

don't think you need the pause

[acoustic pilot]

And yeah probably was why bandwidth was a bottleneck

[warped spear]

i overclocked time itself with a bunch of clocks

lol

[limber knot]

don't need pause and Xms

ha ?

[warped spear]

xms

you need

pause i don't think so

your tryna make a start file right

[limber knot]

yea

[warped spear]

there should be some pre made flags if you google them

just goolge optimized minecraft jvm arguements

[limber knot]

i don't understand those

xD

and why they should be in

[warped spear]

https://aikar.co/2018/07/02/tuning-the-jvm-g1gc-garbage-collector-flags-for-minecraft/

here use this

and just tweak the memory amount to work for your system

[limber knot]

i have a VPS

[warped spear]

these are what you need for a optimized start file

use them

[limber knot]

why should i use them ? do they help or somthing ?

[quick gust]

on my vps with 1cpu those startup args crashed my server btw

like had to reboot it from hosts panel it was so dead

[limber knot]

i mean...i still don't get why i should put those flags

[quick gust]

did you scroll to the "Technical Explanation of the Flags" section

[limber knot]

nope

[warped spear]

they optimize garbage collection

you have to tweak them for your server

[acoustic pilot]

optimizes memory use on your server to prevent long GC pauses

essentially.

[warped spear]

those args are for a server with atleast 6gb and multi core cpu

@quick gust did you change any of those settings?

or did you run them stock

cause if you did on a single core cpu it makes sense you crashed

[limber knot]

so should i change them or just paste and create a bat file ?

because i don't know what to change and change to what

[warped spear]

change them to fit your system ie ram amount

then just past them into your start file

[limber knot]

i just know about xmx and xms

other numbers like XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=100

idk about

and i have 32gb ram

Here it says 'If you are running with 10GB or less memory for MC, you should not adjust these parameters.'

[woven otter]

@void void nerd

[pulsar wigeon]

nice RPC

$20 huh?

[woven otter]

wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

yea doveboy?

[woven otter]

$20?

[pulsar wigeon]

https://i.imgur.com/kXHsjZB.png

[woven otter]

oh

[potent warren]

At least edit the eclipse plugin so it announces you're using IntelliJ @void void

[limber knot]

I got $1 for you, all you have to do is make me emperor of all mankind technerder

ah, capitalism

[woven otter]

well barty will put in loot crates

[potent warren]

mystery boxes are lit.

Do that

[acoustic pilot]

loot crates, and make sure they're always on sale too

the red slash across the "real" price has that psychological "oh shit need to get it now" effect 😛

[potent warren]

make it so it costs $99 but add a 90% discount so it costs $9.9

[acoustic pilot]

ye

[potent warren]

Heck, $300 real price and put it at $3

[woven otter]

also make sure to include "limited offer" in the title

[potent warren]

^^

[acoustic pilot]

damn now we're talking

i know we're joking but this shit actually works

[woven otter]

yeah

[potent warren]

Also make sure to put on a random interval a popup showing that someone bought a LIMITED OFFER ITEM AND YOU SHOULD BUY IT NOW!!! 3 LEFT

[woven otter]

also make bundles

[potent warren]

^^

[acoustic pilot]

all this capitalism is making me hungry

[potent warren]

lol

[woven otter]

true now I need to bleed some 12 year olds of their parents money

[acoustic pilot]

"SALE ENDING SOON" never ends

[vestal jasper]

w-what are laws

[potent warren]

Don't forget:

YOU SAVE $297 IF YOU BUY THIS ITEM (Costed $300 now costs $3)

lel

I procrastinate 8 hours a day. Does that count?

[woven otter]

barty I think you need some overpriced plugins

[potent warren]

LIMITED OFFER $300 ADMINISTRATOR RANK

hell no

[woven otter]

my rate is 10$/min

[still onyx]

whats that plugin that prevents from too many pillagers spawning?

[vestal jasper]

multiverse

where's my $10?

[woven otter]

explain

Imagine not hiring a duck to write your plugins

oh

I see

smart

[potent warren]

multiverse > multiple servers

/s

[pulsar wigeon]

imagine hiring a pigeon to write your plugins

also why /s

multiple servers is probably better than multiverse in many cases

[woven otter]

hold on what

nick you got it backwards

also imagine working on WE

[potent warren]

oh fuck

thx for noticing

[pulsar wigeon]

yea ok

i was mid-rant

about why you're fucking retarded

which idk you probably still are

but at least you fixed that

[potent warren]

I fixed it for Discord users. Waiting for IRC users to complain

[pulsar wigeon]

!stats

[limber knot]

Uptime: 0 days, 16 hours, 42 minutes, 6 seconds
Message Handling: 4ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 140 (5%)
Messages from Discord: 2709 (95%)

[woven otter]

IRC never forgets

[limber knot]

[wizjany] REEEEEEEEEEE

[woven otter]

but does it ever remember

[potent warren]

wtf is Mana

is that another bot?

[woven otter]

!help

[potent warren]

aRe yOu tElLiNg mE ThAt dIfFeReNt sErVeR MoDeS ArE On dIfFeReNt sErVeRs? I ThOuGhT I HaD To tElEpOrT ThEm tO AnOtHeR DiMeNsIoN AnD ThEn bAcK To pLaY ThAt sErVeR TeLePoRt aNiMaTiOn /s

[woven otter]

so 140 messages in 16 hours 🤔

[potent warren]

iRc iS BeTtEr tHaN DiScOrD. iT'S So gOoD ThAt tHeRe aRe mOrE PeOpLe uSiNg iRc oN HeRe tHaN DiScOrD

[limber knot]

[wizjany] irc is the superior race

It'S nOt AbOuT tHe QuAnTiTy Of ThE PeOpLe BuT rAtHeR tHe QuAlItY

[woven otter]

no

noone cares about quality these days

[limber knot]

Reminder for DiscordBot: Report issues

[pulsar wigeon]

@fallen oracle ^

[woven otter]

oh cool it actually worked

I fucked up the ping though

[pulsar wigeon]

yea you need to use the snowflake

eg -d 176340309574156289

[woven otter]

is that id

[pulsar wigeon]

.remind -w -d 176340309574156289 1s test

wait it has a min doesn't it

[woven otter]

F

[digital oak]

some random russian recently stupidly duped 1.37 bitcoin into my acc

[pulsar wigeon]

.remind -w -d 176340309574156289 10s test

wait fuck backwards?

[woven otter]

.remind

[limber knot]

[-d] [-w <who>] <when> <message...>

[pulsar wigeon]

.remind -d -w 176340309574156289 10s test

[limber knot]

DiscordBot: Reminder set for 10 seconds from now.

[pulsar wigeon]

there

[limber knot]

Reminder for @woven otter: test

[woven otter]

oh

cool

okay who messed with my nick again

[upper flicker]

👏

[static badge]

mfw u don't notice that

[upper flicker]

mfw ur a furry based on a healer cat from a teen drama novel

[static badge]

mfw ur an eye but ur blind

[upper flicker]

don't need eyes to see how bad you are

🔥

[static badge]

ur a furry

[limber knot]

hey

[woven otter]

notice what

hm

[limber knot]

Guys should Xmx and Xms be the same ?

[fallen oracle]

@pulsar wigeon ?

[pulsar wigeon]

message for you

[limber knot]

like this Xmx2048M Xms2048M ?

[fallen oracle]

I don't remember the issues

[limber knot]

or should Xms be half

[pulsar wigeon]

idk

i didn't make the reminder

[fallen oracle]

I didn't either

[void void]

Hey, do you guys know anything about Bungeecord?

Because our server just got fucking Yeeted by a bungeecord exploit

[limber knot]

L​il​ia​nn​e holy shit

[void void]

Hm?

[pulsar wigeon]

https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/604035846865158145

there you go glare

[limber knot]

bungee cord is what a man needs

you should waste your life learning how that shit works :D

[void void]

Yea, A force op exploit just fucked our server.

[fallen oracle]

@static badge CHUGUSKS ARE HAVING ISSUES. DON'T PULL IT

[pulsar wigeon]

force op exploit

yea ok

sure thing

[static badge]

.g CHUGUSKS

[pulsar wigeon]

👌

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/biys8h/who_says_hueys_cant_dogfight/ -- Who says Huey's can't dogfight? : Warthunder: "This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, ..."

aha op ?

[fallen oracle]

Lol what

[limber knot]

you should ban md_5

[static badge]

tf

[void void]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCc2GZN_samC4cPkaUjVh1w

legit by this group lmao

[limber knot]

he is the admin of the generated bungeecord

[void void]

i dont know how it's done, but literally the server got griefed and they got admin

[pulsar wigeon]

^

[void void]

How do we secure it.

[fallen oracle]

He probably had his oflfine servers exposed and they logged in as an admin.

[limber knot]

it md_5

[pulsar wigeon]

there's literally a guide on the bungee page

that goes over setting up a firewall and shit

[void void]

I'm sorry. I'm really new to this...

[pulsar wigeon]

and using proper server settings

[limber knot]

are u runnig ofline mode ?

[void void]

I didn't set up bungee, the other dev did.

So, No idea.

guess i'll look over her wrok and fix it. Thank you

[limber knot]

if it's offline mode

no wonder why u got yeeted

:D

hey guuys Should -Xmx and Xms be the same ?

[void void]

Thank you.

[limber knot]

or not?

[pulsar wigeon]

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[pulsar wigeon]

^dora

[static badge]

you want them to be the same

[limber knot]

S​po​tt​ed​le​af​ should they be ?

[static badge]

yeah you want xms to match xmx

[limber knot]

i used to put Xms half of what i put for Xmx

S​po​tt​ed​le​af thanks

it's because preventing memory waste ....right ?

[merry zealot]

The flag Xmx specifies the maximum memory allocation pool for a Java virtual machine (JVM), while Xms specifies the initial memory allocation pool.

you're not required to provide an Xms flag

[limber knot]

java -Xms6G -Xmx6G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=100 -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:G1NewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=80 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=35 -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -Dusing.aikars.flags=mcflags.emc.gs -jar paperclip.jar

that's ma flag

lol

[merry zealot]

oh

lmao

i dont understand none of that

[limber knot]

xD

[pulsar wigeon]

it's all explained

in the link above

[merry zealot]

except the -jar and -Xms/-Xmx

I'll read some other time

[limber knot]

they are not needed

but could help a lot

i just don't really understand the xmx and xms part

some people put them the same

some don't

[merry zealot]

I usually leave Xms out because it's a bit like "minimum" allocated memory

so like

[pulsar wigeon]

it's literally explained in the article

[merry zealot]

it'll init the program with said amount of memory and idk

[pulsar wigeon]

yes, you don't know

you literally understand none of it

yet you're trying to justify something

lol

[limber knot]

Xds

dude they have to be the same

[merry zealot]

I just deduced with a stackoverflow answer

I'll read the article

[limber knot]

look

[pulsar wigeon]

whatever deduced just told you what Xms does

not why you should set it to Xmx

[merry zealot]

i never claimed to know or recommend a value for Xms and/or why you should include it

[limber knot]

if -Xms is lower than -Xmx – YOU HAVE UNUSED MEMORY! Unused memory is wasted memory.

easy

[merry zealot]

I merely repeated what I read and then just stated that I don't use the Xms flag at all myself

[limber knot]

u must use it

:|

[merry zealot]

no?

[woven otter]

https://i.imgur.com/ezgzBTv.png
at glare

[limber knot]

u have to

[merry zealot]

shit runs fine with no unused memory when I just don't include it

must default to Xmx i guess

idk

[limber knot]

hey just run the shit

xD

[woven otter]

i made a reminder for you

[static badge]

oh I see now

[limber knot]

it doesn't matter if you have a poweful VPS

no lag no shit

[merry zealot]

1 -Xms2G -Xmx5G

https://www.baeldung.com/jvm-parameters

[limber knot]

i know

put pros say they both have to be in the bat file

and they have to be the same

[pulsar wigeon]

to be clear, you don't have to use it

you don't have to use any flags

[limber knot]

but you use them to help you

more

[merry zealot]

I use -Xmx because I don't want my server to hog my memory so much that I can't use chrome anymore lmao

[limber knot]

aha

[merry zealot]

but I don't see the point of defining an Xms

[limber knot]

it's because you want your server to run somth as shit

[pulsar wigeon]

the point is outlined in the article

holy fuck

you're dense

[merry zealot]

wow there's no reason to get hostile

I'm just tired, I can't read right now

[limber knot]

w​iz​ja​ny​ take it easy on him man

u don't have to say it again and again

[merry zealot]

any information I need to process will just fucking bleed out my nose

I'll read it tomorrow

[limber knot]

yea

good

[merry zealot]

goodnight

[limber knot]

good night

[woven otter]

wiz's default is to be hostile

[quasi valley]

Well then why talk as if you knew what it does

[merry zealot]

I didn't

I was guessing

[quasi valley]

Then why guess

[limber knot]

K​en​ny​TV​ shut the front door :|

[merry zealot]

because that's how i work

[limber knot]

p​at​ch​ no problem mate

it's ok

i am a noob myslef

[merry zealot]

I find it hard not to understand stuff but i'll read 2mrw

[quasi valley]

Who isn’t

[limber knot]

K​en​ny​TV​ you

p​at​ch​ same with me

[pulsar wigeon]

the point is that you could have just said "i'll read it tomorrow" and shut up

but you insisted on continuing to shove your opinion around, despite admitting it had absolutely no backing or merit

[limber knot]

w​iz​ja​ny​ ayyyyyyyy

[torpid willow]

java tries to use the least amount of memory to get the job done and gc is done bassed on the percent of free memory left. setting them the same increases the time between gc.

[limber knot]

so is it good or bad

just say it

[merry zealot]

y'all got any good shows or movies to watch?

[limber knot]

xD

[acoustic pilot]

well damn, a PH meme I haven't seen yet that doesn't suck: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/ckdkah/quantum_computers_be_like/

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Quantum Computers be like : ProgrammerHumor - 2 comments, 43 points - Narfee, 31m ago

[acoustic pilot]

_>

[void void]

hah

[fallen oracle]

Of course someone made a SO meme

I've watched 40 episodes of pokemon in the past 2 days.

[limber knot]

Do you need help?

[acoustic pilot]

I have finished like 2 anime series in the past 2 days.

[fallen oracle]

Fancy

[acoustic pilot]

Last one was Ixion Saga DT 😄

[woven otter]

https://i.imgur.com/qMvIx0b.jpg

[limber knot]

Ah pish

[fallen oracle]

What build?

Hmm Im on that build but not the .267

Got a pic?

[limber knot]

https://i.imgur.com/0LBVBPA.png

this is cool

[(\d\d:\d\d:\d\d)] [(.)/(.)]: (.*) is my message pattern if you watn to setup the new ideolog thing yourself

tfw \d\d

https://i.imgur.com/MGGSzM8.png

I don't regex, ok?!

tbh \d\d is shorter than \d{2}

[limber knot]

tbh I'm lazy though so I'd just go with: [([^[]*)] ...

Erm, ^]

Just means, everything that's not ]

it doesn't matter, it works ^^

Trufax

[limber knot]

https://i.imgur.com/0YEefiE.png

fun

[acoustic pilot]

I kinda want to write a general purpose wrapper sort of like mark2

[limber knot]

I kinda want to get paperd to work first ^^

dyescape? Dy escape? Dye scape? Dyes cape? -D yescape?

[acoustic pilot]

Dyes Cape, obviously

[limber knot]

D yes cape

[pulsar wigeon]

Dye or Escape

just like Run Escape

:^)

[acoustic pilot]

Oh nice, JetBrains has a library called pty4j which makes my wrapper idea super fucking easy

Along with Lanterna's screen-level rendering layer

[upper flicker]

Happy Wednesday peoples, assorted cats, etc

[limber knot]

wizjany I heard there was a Run Escape in 2007!

[pulsar wigeon]

you realize it came out in like 2001

[woven otter]

why are you congratulating us on wednesday

[limber knot]

you made it thru half of the week!

wizjany yeah I'm on about 2007scape pls

the worst part of it even

[acoustic pilot]

every day feels like saturday to me

[woven otter]

weird

[acoustic pilot]

very unproductive and recreational, lol

[upper flicker]

minidigger gets it

Small victories, it's a long week

[limber knot]

got a new caterer at work starting tomorrow, lets see how that goes

they torn apart one kitchen and stuff for the last months

[acoustic pilot]

you get lunch catered to your work? lol

[limber knot]

Lots of places do Byteflux?

[acoustic pilot]

Hasn't been my experience in the US

Unless you work for a big place like Apple, Google, Facebook etc where they have their own cafeteria.

[limber knot]

My building has catering, but it's expensive and shit

[acoustic pilot]

Apple has a sweeet cafeteria

Most US workplaces I've been a part of have an office fridge and everyone brings their own stuff 😛

fridge/kitchen etc

[limber knot]

Oh our office has that

[acoustic pilot]

Catering sounds nice

[limber knot]

no no, they cook it at work

we are like 2k ppl on the campus

[acoustic pilot]

Damn, that's even fancier

[limber knot]

560 in the IT child company

[acoustic pilot]

Oh okay, well for 2k ppl makes sense 😛

Thought your company was smaller for some reason

[limber knot]

we have millions of customers ^^

[acoustic pilot]

Does your employer cover a portion of the food bill?

[limber knot]

oh yeah

[acoustic pilot]

nice

[limber knot]

old caterer we paid 3.40€ for a meal + drink + salad + dessert

4 for a pizza

[acoustic pilot]

damn, not bad

that's... $3-4 lol

[limber knot]

like they had one cheap meal with that combo, pizza, veggie and one expensive (4-6 euro)

normally dessert or drink costs 60ct

https://i.imgur.com/5gFkAA8.jpg

thats our campus

kek still managed to not censor everything, god dammit

plenty ppl in here know where I work

[void void]

ive found out and forgotten at least 3 times

[acoustic pilot]

all i really remember is some insurance thing in germany

[limber knot]

best thing is this: https://i.imgur.com/0ULMWGg.png

[acoustic pilot]

are there bike lanes?

[limber knot]

kinda, part of the street is reserved

[acoustic pilot]

cuz that'd be pretty sweet, easy commute

[limber knot]

and the last 3rd is a bike road, no cars

[acoustic pilot]

good exercise, quick commute

[limber knot]

I need a new bike tho

[void void]

ive still yet to fix my bike

got the tires fixed but brakes still fukd

[acoustic pilot]

meh who needs brakes

man up pussy

[void void]

in the city you dont really, feet are fine

but i ride it in the hiking trails

[soft ocean]

byteflux what happened to originmc

[acoustic pilot]

dont know dont care?

[soft ocean]

you owned it at one point

[acoustic pilot]

wow i didnt know that

thx for letting me know

[soft ocean]

[void void]

hey byteflux what happened to originmc

[upper flicker]

That's a name I've not heard in a long long time

[woven otter]

what's that

[upper flicker]

I thought he sold it but maybe I'm remembering some other network

[void void]

dis thing? https://www.originmc.org/

yea thats it lol

I swear to god. Amateur server owners kill me

[limber knot]

clearly not very well, you're still typing

get 'im 'arder bois

[void void]

wat

[limber knot]

I SAID GIT 'IM

[void void]

[limber knot]

gottem

[acoustic basin]

⠊ ⠝⠕⠺ ⠕⠝⠇⠽ ⠞⠁⠇⠅ ⠊⠝ ⠃⠗⠁⠊⠇ ⠎⠕ ⠞⠓⠁⠞ ⠃⠇⠊⠝⠙ ⠏⠑⠕⠏⠇⠑ ⠉⠁⠝ ⠥⠝⠙⠑⠗⠎⠞⠁⠝⠙ ⠍⠑ ⠞⠕⠕

[unreal quarry]

Hold on, let me show that to my blind friend so he can translate

[worn ember]

Duckdns

[vestal jasper]

quack

:(

[acoustic basin]

:(

[woven otter]

duck?

"i now only talk in brail so that blind people can understand me too"

[limber knot]

hi

can anyone help me

[acoustic basin]

hi what do u need help for

i would @ you but ur on irc

[void void]

.ask

[limber knot]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[void void]

https://www.dontasktoask.com/

bet he already left huh

[limber knot]

nope hes here

[void void]

Ty barty btw for earlier

I was panicky and never thanked you well enough 😃

[limber knot]

im back

anyone know why in disabled commands, i have put bungee, but its not disabling it

@artic

nvm, found a way

[acoustic basin]

I normally say "can anyone help me" cause in like 1st grade the teacher would put u intruble if u asked a qestion during times when it wasnt allowed

[vestal jasper]

having times where you're not allowed to ask questions

sounds counterproductive

[ancient bolt]

when is the next holiday

[ancient bolt]

when is that

so i need to take that week off then

use 32 hours of PTO for 40 hours off

[upper flicker]

offtopic: can you pull https://github.com/minecraft-dev/minecraftdev.org/pull/8 pls since you're here

pffft noooo

wow darn

[static badge]

do they make anime for blind people

[upper flicker]

I'd be super upset if I watched anime

[ancient bolt]

you pull it

damn I really need to go to the eye doctor

my left eye fucking off is getting out of hand

[static badge]

you got lazy eye or somethin

[ancient bolt]

idk the technical term

but yeah my left eye defocuses

and shit like that

[static badge]

[ancient bolt]

yeah same thing happened for me

[static badge]

that's gh for you

[ancient bolt]

refresh fixed it

tit

nsfw

that's probably what fucked my eyes up

I have an eye patch I sometimes wear at home when watching TV to cover my right eye to force me to use my left eye

to exercise it and shit

[static badge]

interesting

I had to do the same when I was young

[ancient bolt]

i sometimes wear it when I'm at my computer but it's hard for my left eye to focus on a screen this close when I'm tired

and y'all know I'm always tired

yeah I haven't been to an eye doctor in 20 or so years

it does?

caffeine?

idk i have bad blood pressure issues and I'm not healthy

[muted niche]

<relocation>
                  <pattern>com.google.common</pattern>
                  <shadedPattern>ninja.leaping.permissionsex.libs.com-google-common</shadedPattern>
                </relocation>

Doesn't do jack shit for some reason

anyone know?

other relocations work fine

actually no a few others break too

[ancient bolt]

gotta see the whole pom

[muted niche]

https://github.com/bloodmc/PermissionsEx/blob/master/permissionsex-bukkit/pom.xml#L47-L73

[20:47:02] [Server thread/ERROR]: Error occurred while enabling PermissionsEx v2.0-SNAPSHOT (Is it up to date?)
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.google.common.reflect.TypeToken.isAssignableFrom(Lcom/google/common/reflect/TypeToken;)Z
        at ninja.leaping.permissionsex.libs.ninja-leaping-configurate.objectmapping.serialize.TypeSerializerCollection.get(TypeSerializerCollection.java:45) ~[?:?]
        at ninja.leaping.permissionsex.libs.ninja-leaping-configurate.objectmapping.ObjectMapper$FieldData.deserializeFrom(ObjectMapper.java:80) ~[?:?]
        at ninja.leaping.permissionsex.libs.ninja-leaping-configurate.objectmapping.ObjectMapper$BoundInstance.populate(ObjectMapper.java:148) ~[?:?]
        at ninja.leaping.permissionsex.config.FilePermissionsExConfiguration.load(FilePermissionsExConfiguration.java:90) ~[?:?]
        at ninja.leaping.permissionsex.config.FilePermissionsExConfiguration.fromLoader(FilePermissionsExConfiguration.java:84) ~[?:?]

basically want to relocate to fix this

happens when launching latest 1.14.4

[ancient bolt]

could be a string reference to the class that's causing that

oh i see

that's strange

it works on the com.google.common package but doesn't transform the other dependency which uses it

ordering maybe? put it on top? I have no idea how that works tbh

[muted niche]

k

yea same shit

i even bumped the shade plugin to 3.1.0

[ancient bolt]

@cosmic raft might know

unrelated, but I don't get why so many different programs like VLC and handbrake exist that can convert audio and video files and they all have their different problems and are kinda shit when they could just use ffmpeg instead and it would all work great

an ffmpeg-gui would be nice actually

[muted niche]

VLC is very good

[ancient bolt]

it fucked up an mp4 -> mkv conversion i just did

ffmpeg got it right no problem

[muted niche]

https://github.com/videolan/vlc

post ticket

err

they removed it

[ancient bolt]

i don't care enough tbh

[muted niche]

try latest on github

[ancient bolt]

https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/15505

4 years ago

[muted niche]

lol nice

[ancient bolt]

ffmpeg already fixed my problem

no reason to try again with VLC

[muted niche]

quality service then

[upper flicker]

re: no ffmpeg-gui: probably because it'd look like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/4U32R.png

[ancient bolt]

oof

yeah it does have a lot of knobs

[upper flicker]

ffmpeg is knob heaven

which is awesome

[ancient bolt]

but it's just so good once you figure out the right command it just works

[upper flicker]

maybe some sort of profile based system with sane defaults

[ancient bolt]

all the defaults were fine for me though

ffmpeg -i Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.BluRay.mp4 -f matroska Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.BluRay.mkv

worked great

[void void]

hey z, if not watever, but for funzies can we call a .nohello and a .dontasktoask (as compliments to .ask) for http://www.nohello.com/ and https://www.dontasktoask.com/ respectively

[upper flicker]

isnt nohello a little hostile

[void void]

meh

[ancient bolt]

yeah saying hi is cool

[vestal jasper]

no

[upper flicker]

what if someone joins just to say hello

[vestal jasper]

hello z

[ancient bolt]

fuck off @vestal jasper

[void void]

nah i mean, it's for when they say hi specifically to ask a question

[upper flicker]

HI SIMPLEAUTHORITY

[void void]

but i see ur point

[vestal jasper]

no u @ancient bolt

[ancient bolt]

why doesn't this server have an oof emote

[vestal jasper]

[ancient bolt]

I need to start moving my company's slack emotes over here

I don't have nitro

and refuse to get it

[static badge]

just beg nossr

[vestal jasper]

[static badge]

I still have free nitro from him

[ancient bolt]

nossr gave me nitro without asking

i gave it back to this channel

lmao

i aint takin' no nitro for no one

[static badge]

LUL

[limber knot]

.addcmd dontask https://www.dontasktoask.com/

[void void]

if we get 50 nitro boosts we can fit all of señor demôn's work emotes in here

maybe

[limber knot]

.addalias dontask dontasktoask

[vestal jasper]

.dontask

[limber knot]

https://www.dontasktoask.com/

[void void]

ty <3

[smoky rampart]

i have a minecraft related question, wondering if someone could spot the problem

[void void]

.dontask

[limber knot]

https://www.dontasktoask.com/

[void void]

:D

immediate usage

[ancient bolt]

we dont discuss minecraft here

[smoky rampart]

...

[void void]

just ask your question. what you did was ask to ask

just. ask

[smoky rampart]

i didn't, i was about to post the screenshot

anyway, i made a squid farm, the idea being that the squids fall out and dye because they are out of water

but the squids aren't dying

the fish that spawn are dying in the way i want the squids to die

[upper flicker]

do squids die out of water?

[void void]

that's surprisingly nice handwriting on a pc

[upper flicker]

I know they didnt used to, but that was many many versions ago

[smoky rampart]

i see them do it all the time outside of this farm

[static badge]

they should die outside water

haven't you fuckin boys heard of the suicide squid memes

[upper flicker]

no, I dont troll around r/minecraftmemes

[smoky rampart]

they are supposed to be doing that by default

[upper flicker]

or whatever bad subreddit

[static badge]

I don't roll around on reddit

I get my memes from quality places

but yeah if they're not dying idk is a plugin doing it

[vestal jasper]

9gag isn't a quality place, leaf

[static badge]

not even 9gag

[smoky rampart]

i can't think of a reason why i see them suffocate elsewhere on the server but not in this farm

[static badge]

inb4 slab is waterlogged and they're detected as being in it

[upper flicker]

lol

[static badge]

work in vanilla?

[smoky rampart]

even if i drop one before the glass area, clear of the signs, it doesn't die

[static badge]

it'll take

15 seconds before they start to drown

[smoky rampart]

hmm

ok that was it i think

the water pulse i had to clear out the drops was reseting that

thanks

[static badge]

what was it? the slabs?

[smoky rampart]

^^^

the tutorial i was following was out of date i guess

[muted niche]

@ancient bolt fixed it, apparently had to update configurate to latest 😃 guess we fixed it in past . Thanks

[void void]

jeezus node uses a lot of memory

[static badge]

js

[acoustic pilot]

Oh shit, Spotify will finally be getting Tool, starting on Friday

One of the last major holdouts

And a personal favorite band

The whole catalog 😍

Tool really shot themselves in the foot all these years by making their music really fucking hard to purchase legally.

So much so that die hard Tool fans would just tell people to pirate it.

(The only format they offer, IIRC, is CD)

[vestal jasper]

TOOOOOOL

Legit my name is a reference to the song

[acoustic pilot]

lol

I actually just listened to Various like an hour ago 😛

Vicarious even

fuck I can't type

Was feeling nostalgic so went through YouTube for Tool songs, and I saw in the comments that Tool is coming to Spotify on Friday

[vestal jasper]

They're finally dropping their new album in like august right? After how many decades.

[acoustic pilot]

Really? That's awesome, right in time for their streaming debut

[vestal jasper]

Tool have confirmed that their fifth studio album, Fear Inoculum, will be released on August 30. It's the follow-up to 2006's 10,000 Days.```

[acoustic pilot]

So that means their new album will be on Spotify

[vestal jasper]

The title of the upcoming new Tool album is "Fear Inoculum". Coming August 30th, 2019. Tool's catalog will be released on all digital and streaming formats on August 2nd.

[acoustic pilot]

Dunno wtf Tool was thinking

They are nowhere near as big as Taylor Swift where they could pull off not streaming lol

Whatever, glad they finally caved

[vestal jasper]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0g5SswFfSU/

[acoustic pilot]

Cool, but not trippy enough 😛

Guess I'll be binging on the new Tool album on repeat while I play WoW Classic when it drops :p

Both coming out around the same time

[vestal jasper]

I wonder what formats it'll release in

Prob just vinyl cd and spotify

[acoustic pilot]

as well as all the other streaming platforms like YouTube and Apple Music, probably

[vestal jasper]

youtube would be nice

it's how I usually listen to tool stuff because I don't have any way to rip CDs

and a good majority of youtube tool videos have terrible sound quality for some reason

[acoustic pilot]

yeah not really YT's fault in that case

[vestal jasper]

Yeah, official videos on their channel would be optimal

[acoustic pilot]

pretty sure most of the fault is with the band other than maynard

they were the holdouts

maynard wanted streaming pretty bad

[vestal jasper]

O that's what you're talking about

[merry talon]

ur a tool

[vestal jasper]

Yeah imo letting more people listen to it in any capacity would be more of a priority than having people listen to the entire album in one go

Not for the money aspect but for accessibility

[acoustic pilot]

what's the point of making all this amazing art of nobody listens to it lol

[vestal jasper]

Yeah

[merry talon]

clout

[humble path]

hey fellers

Point me to the right channel for reporting a Paper issue?

[static badge]

#paper-help

[void void]

hey @stiff yarrow mcmmo sux

mek blast mining not operate on basis of explosion kthx, break blox urself bc servers that has tnt turned off it no worky

then mcmmo gud

[void void]

how do you add to a worldedit selection

if i have something selected and want to add to it?

[sharp rover]

make a new, bigger selection? not sure if there's a way to do it compartmentally

[void void]

say blue is my selection

and i want to select blue and red

[vestal jasper]

Pretty sure you'd have to make two selections

I'm not sure a selection can be split like that

[void void]

yea it seems so

thats k just an extra step

[sharp rover]

https://youtu.be/ziXiA0E2JsA?t=203

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Minecraft: WorldEdit Tutorials - Advanced Selections - length 14m 8s - 107 likes, 14 dislikes (88.4%) - 16,363 views - Superslinky7MC on 2012.07.16

[void void]

ye thats rlly old

[sharp rover]

you can do wack lookin polygons it seems lol

[void void]

yea thats the most u can do

[vestal jasper]

I seem to have removed the wrong bit of code

[abstract aspen]

That looks like a crafting recipe from a hardcore modpack

[static badge]

vic is retarded part 5 :>

[vestal jasper]

thanks leaf

[static badge]

50*

[void void]

videojs is a joke

no event cancellation

[static badge]

js in general is a joke

[void void]

ok give me a better web development platform leaf

[static badge]

nothing

[void void]

lol

[static badge]

doesn't mean it's good

[stiff yarrow]

@void void

[void void]

@stiff yarrow fix it and ur redeemed ill even publicly say so

i wasted tnt bc u

[stiff yarrow]

@void void Yeah that's a good idea, I'll put it on my todo list. Not even meeeem'ing

I'm finished moving around 3rd so you'll have to wait a bit

[void void]

Sorry, that idea is now Copyright 2019 All Rights Reserved © simpleauthority.

[stiff yarrow]

[void void]

I'll let you use if you add my name to contributors list.

[stiff yarrow]

[vestal jasper]

why is dynmap so weird with rendering things

[peak kite]

Dont stop a full render. Ever. Let it finish.

[vestal jasper]

makes sense, it's been funky prior to me ever stopping one though

[peak kite]

If you do, purge the world.

[vestal jasper]

[peak kite]

in dynmap...

[vestal jasper]

lemme guess

this is the result of stopping a fullrender

[peak kite]

exactly

100%

[vestal jasper]

mfw

at least it only takes like 2 days to render

[peak kite]

lol sux.

[void void]

did you just cancel your fucking render for the meme

[vestal jasper]

I'm rendering it on my main computer because reasons, and I needed to reboot

[peak kite]

you can go to the black areas and to a radius render, but i think the tile hashes even get messed up from stopping.

make a different computer run the tile renderer

[vestal jasper]

I plan on keeping my computer on until it's done

I'll force it to radiusrender where it fucks up and hope it's goed

Otherwise it'll only take another 20 ish hours to redo

The alternative is doing this on a raspberry pi and waiting 5 months for it to finish

[peak kite]

did you tweak dynmap to do 32bpp and custom textures, with smooth day night ligting?

[vestal jasper]

No just standard

[peak kite]

dang, so if you did youd be at it for weeks

big world..

[vestal jasper]

Yeahhh

[peak kite]

the vanilla dynmap uses very little cpu rendering.

[vestal jasper]

It seems to update / fix fucked up areas periodically near me even if I don't radiusrender

[peak kite]

how many cores do you have?

[vestal jasper]

8

[peak kite]

geez

[vestal jasper]

I have it using all 8

[peak kite]

oh, good.

[vestal jasper]

this is going to annoy me to no end too

[peak kite]

dang. i don't think dynmap has a purgeradius.

[vestal jasper]

I might just pad out to the edge of the farthest accidental render

[peak kite]

actually , radius render should paint them black too.

[ancient bolt]

I'm becoming to wonder if my lack of sleep every night is bad for my health

Nah that's silly

[peak kite]

So then eat healthy?

[cunning badge]

Ill never understand why so many people are forking some open source projects without adding any changes to it

[void void]

thats how some people "bookmark"

because they're retards

[cunning badge]

And what do thy use the star function for?

[void void]

Like I said, they're retards

[vestal jasper]

bookmarking++

[cunning badge]

Contributing?

[acoustic sphinx]

I mean if you have a lot of projects starred, it can be difficult to sort through them, but I'm sure there's better ways to solve that than a blank fork lol

[cunning badge]

I mean there is a search function

And if you have too many things starrred, then you can simply use confluence

And create your own list in there

[acoustic sphinx]

Isn't that a paid service though? I'm surprised there's not a browser extension for better organizing stars

[cunning badge]

Its once a 10 bucks payment and then you can host it yourself as long as you want

I think you can do that

And you can have then up to 10 users

But I bet there are a lot of free alternatives

[acoustic sphinx]

Oh, I didn't check the self hosted options at first because I figured they'd be super expensive

But yeah $10 isn't bad, I might have to check it out

[cunning badge]

If you want more than 10 users its getting super expensive. Then you are over 1000 bucks I guess

or 9 bucks per user per month

[acoustic sphinx]

Yeah well I just need one lol

[peak kite]

wait a minute i don't have a spider crawling on the screen .... screensaver

[limber knot]

Is Aikar online?

Is Aikar online?

[cunning badge]

.ask

[limber knot]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

OK

I'm interested about how 1.14 differs from other versions in chunk IO

The ci page said that "MC 1.14.x was a rushed release from Mojang and has significant performance issues in how it handles chunk I/O."

[cunning badge]

It executes chunk stuff on the main thread and does not correctly apply priorization to IO Operations

[limber knot]

I feel fxxked when TPS dropped to 6 and there're only 15 players

OK THX

[cunning badge]

There is an asnyc chunk loading patch done by Spottedleaf which improves performance a lot

[limber knot]

Is that included in Paper or I need to install it else?

[cunning badge]

Its not marged into the main branch tho ... but you can still get it from github

~paper-2308

[void void]

PAPER-2308: [W.I.P] Async chunk api/io/loading

This patch re-adds async chunk API and IO/Loading

(For people watching this is not the async chunk patch you've been waiting for, that will be later)
The primary issue will be chunk generation - I have not touched this system and as such it is not prioritized. This will come in a later patch when I've taken the proper time to fully understand how Mojang's chunk generation system works.

I have performed internal testing to show that these changes work really well if you pre-generate your world (match or exceed 1.13).

TODO list:

• [ ] Ready for review
• [ ] Review & Test
• [ ] Wait on https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/2376 to move compression/decompression to the loader threads?
• [x] Wait on https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/2332
• [x] Add detailed notes to patch header
• [x] Wait on https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/2297
• [x] Wait on Billy's changes
• [x] Config
• [x] Anti-Xray async load?
• [x] Get https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/2296 merged and resolve the chunk status cache thread-safety issues

So after a bunch of internal testing I think it's time to start officially testing this out.

Your configuration settings for async chunks will carry over except generation stuff - we don't have control of that currently. However mojang's generation system is async currently, however it lacks prioritization. This means this will work best with a pre-generated world.

Please report any issues with async chunks on this PR, the jar is below.
Please remember to backup regularly, especially before using this.

Currently this jar is based off paper build 152

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602031644919988236/605207867187920896/paperclip.jar
SHA1: 64531e5983eb7d68f3a3bccb7e7741a1f5733223

State: open | Author: Spottedleaf

[limber knot]

Ummmm...1.14 ver not yet

[cunning badge]

What?

[limber knot]

The ID Spottedleaf is such familliar...Maybe I had heard it elsewhere

I mean...2308 is not an 1.14ver build

[cunning badge]

Yes it is

its based on 1.14.4

[limber knot]

Wow

I'm going to download it soon

[limber knot]

Is it called Concrete..?

[cunning badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602031644919988236/605207867187920896/paperclip.jar

Thats the download link

[limber knot]

Well,Discord is blocked in China

But thanks,I use vpn

[tranquil bone]

I wonder if pre generating worlds go faster because it now goes async with paper-2308

I gave up pre generating my 25k world since it was literally 1% each 24 hours

Maybe you know the answer to this, Spottedleaf?

[cunning badge]

This patch has nothing to do with generation

Only with loading of chunks

[tranquil bone]

Ah fair

[limber knot]

The tps is still low

but better

6→10

[crystal saddle]

yeet anyone wanna help me with something that should be easy, but im a noob and dont understand? if so pls dm me. Imma need a lot of explaining which is why i didnt put it in the help channel and i rather do it over a vc or dm's. :D

[cunning badge]

.ask

[limber knot]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[crystal saddle]

:O

oh

as i said im a noob

anywhoooo

how do i change my server from spigot to paperspigot :D

[limber knot]

@crystal saddle [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[crystal saddle]

oof

[golden gust]

It's as simple as replacing the jar with a paper one

[crystal saddle]

using scalacube as the host (if that helps idk if it does or not) and go into extreme detail

[golden gust]

Might need to adjust any startup scripts to point to the correct jar

[crystal saddle]

idk what u mean by that tho

the "spigot.jar"?

[golden gust]

You'd need to speak to your hosting provider about the specifics of their system

[crystal saddle]

"You can install a Spigot server and files our File manager or FTP replace our /home/minecraft/server/server.jar files to ours.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Best regards,

ScalaCube team

[golden gust]

(They'll generally have FAQs on their knowledgebase of how to use different bits of softawre)

[crystal saddle]

that what they told me

i was confuzzled

[golden gust]

You have FTP access?

[crystal saddle]

yeah

[golden gust]

You basically download paper and go replace that file

[crystal saddle]

i replace the spigot.jar file?

or server.jar

and how do i replace it do i just delete the file and then plop the paper file in.

also whats a startup script

<3

[golden gust]

You replace the server.jar file

And for "startup script", that was more scripts/panel config; But looks like your host just requires you to replace the jar

[crystal saddle]

so quick review. I stop server, delete server.jar but keep spigot.jar and then upload the paper.jar file. Right?

[dapper nacelle]

I need someone who never joined my server before to join so I can see where they spawn

[golden gust]

Yes, but rename the paper jar to server

[dapper nacelle]

justdylan.me 1.14.4

I'd appreciate it if someone joined

[crystal saddle]

i gotchu dylan

[dapper nacelle]

ty

[crystal saddle]

thank you for your help electoniccat

(lowkey nick yourself electrocat)

[golden gust]

This better?

[cunning badge]

there is missing a nossr in there

[crystal saddle]

XD yeah

[crystal saddle]

at first it didnt work cause the S i put in Server.jar was capitalized and i was so confuzzled and then im like huh maybe its the s and it workeddd

thank you Electroniccat <3 :D

[tulip lotus]

what permissions plugin are you guys using?

[golden gust]

luckperms

[tulip lotus]

It's the best?

I mean like I'm using group manager

[ashen cliff]

Luck is currently the best, yes.

[tulip lotus]

So I don't need group manager

[ashen cliff]

Group Manager has been dead since 2014.

And people are somehow still using it.

[tulip lotus]

big oof

lol

well that's when I did my last server and I was wondering if there was a new one

since group manager is meh

[golden gust]

I kinda miss how simple GM made some stuff

even for it's age, there are things it handles better than LP imho

Just, it's old, unmaintained, and really, the best way to start maintaining GM literally involves just deleting code and rewriting parts

looks at the onCommand method in GM

[tulip lotus]

lol

[limber knot]

So

When I use Spottedleaf's paper fork

The tps evolved from 6 to 8

yeah but the IQ went from 8 to 6

:(

[golden gust]

You'd need to provide timings if you want assistance with performance

[limber knot]

Ok

how can I generate timings for my sex life electroniccat

someone tell aikar to get on that

[golden gust]

timings only works for things that exist

[limber knot]

Cut your dick and pull out the timings lol

LOL

not my fault you keep turning me down

[ocean bison]

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=c7b10bb0667c439da13af9c35b2033f1

wtf

[acoustic pilot]

beep boop y'all smell liek poop

[cunning badge]

[ashen cliff]

Interesting. You also have a ton of chickens. Seems to be a trend with 1.14.x.

[cunning badge]

Why u bully me

[acoustic pilot]

cuz u stank

[cunning badge]

You are soo toxic

Can a mod ban him?

[acoustic pilot]

pls no

ill b gud now

im a gud boi ^_^

[cunning badge]

[tulip lotus]

Is the luckperms editor where you type the permissions or in-game or config file?

[void void]

what

you can do it in game, or you can do it on luckperms editor which will, when you're done, give you a command to run in game

[tulip lotus]

like a website link you get for the server

[cunning badge]

He asked where he can configure the perms

[void void]

luckperms editor just takes all your changes, pastes it to a pastebin, and gives you a command to run that reads the paste and executes all the changes

It's a shortcut to doing it in game

[tulip lotus]

aham

thanks

That's nice, the editor is clean

So it won't get confusing

[void void]

youd be surprised to know that it can still get confusing

[cunning badge]

Is the server on localhost?

[tulip lotus]

mine?

[void void]

wat?

[cunning badge]

the editor

[tulip lotus]

Dunno, it's just a github.io link with text fields

[cunning badge]

so thats a no 😄

[tulip lotus]

where you type permissions

[void void]

no, it's a public website that just gathers all the perms changes as input, puts them on a pastebin, and gives you a command to run in game. the command is like /lp applyedits <pasteid>. LP goes on the internet, opens the paste, reads it top to bottom, and applies the changes.

[cunning badge]

Ok simple calm down 🙆

[void void]

and then the paste expires

[cunning badge]

A no is enough 😛

[void void]

gotta explain it for toxic noobs like you

[tulip lotus]

oof

[cunning badge]

[tulip lotus]

Does modifyworld.* perm make you able to brake/place blocks?

[void void]

thats crazy old

[tulip lotus]

lol

[void void]

pex modify world?

you're using pex and lp together?

[tulip lotus]

Nah, just watching permissions for default players

and what it should have on them

[void void]

its up to you what plugins you want to give, modifyworld as a perm doesnt exist unless you have a plugin that exposes it (such as pex modify world, which you shouldn't have)

[tulip lotus]

Oh lol, thanks

Pardon my 2 brain cells

[void void]

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E5-2620-v3-vs-Intel-E5-2620V4

🤔

[dusk drift]

e5-2620

the xeon one

[void void]

both are xeons, the missing xeon label is from cpuboss side...

[dusk drift]

ah

well the v3