#general

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acoustic seal
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or was it just essentials

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idr

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Ik some of the OG plugins went quiet around 1.11.2

golden gust
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He forked essentials

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(don't use that build, go for the EssX one)

acoustic seal
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ah

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Not planning on using it

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Nothing I need in it anymore

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Most of my own plugins cover it

golden gust
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Oh, it's you

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Didn't recognise the name

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(I kinda guessed, but then didn't care enough about you to remember that ❤ )

acoustic seal
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❤ Would the nickname "idiot" been better?

golden gust
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much

acoustic seal
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:p

limber knotBOT
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meanwhile no one seems to be physically capable of forgetting my username

acoustic seal
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Not ran any MC server of any kind in literally 2 years. A bit rusty ;-;

golden gust
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\^-^

acoustic seal
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Is that on IRC?

golden gust
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Yea

acoustic seal
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I forget what characters you can have in IRC nicks

limber knotBOT
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the ones I have

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basically

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lol

golden gust
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(if he changes nick he can't speak in #spigot :D)

acoustic seal
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lol

limber knotBOT
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md5 REALLY wants me to use this username

acoustic seal
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I'd not be surprised if my IRC clients still floating aimlessly on there

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I were dead to the world for almost 2 years

golden gust
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I believe he just wanted you to stop using IRC as a place to test your crimes against IRC

acoustic seal
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So idfk what its doing

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the rfc quakes

limber knotBOT
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he was just jealous of my kick-ass usernames

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and so were you

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I managed to use every single allowed character for one of them

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even got a few of them banned

acoustic seal
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If I'm not notable, am I table @golden gust?

golden gust
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Tables have a use

limber knotBOT
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as table makes tables are noticeable and memorable

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s/makes/maker

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Correction, <^-^> as table maker tables are noticeable and memorable

woven otter
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I mean you might not have a table but at least you could be a duck ¯_(ツ)_/¯

limber knotBOT
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fun fact, he got that username for how ugly he is

woven otter
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is that an insult?

limber knotBOT
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yes, and a dope-ass reference to the classic tale of the ugly duckling

woven otter
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The guy who wrote it was probably jelly of how pretty ducks are

limber knotBOT
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don't worry buddy some day you'll find people who match your ugly looks

woven otter
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Also that's a weak insult. Weak like you

limber knotBOT
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please, you can't even claim that in jest

heavy rapids
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Ducks are pretty ||tasty||

limber knotBOT
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it was a fantastic reference placed seamlessly into the conversation

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if anything it's too good for this channel, much like me

latent sorrel
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Yo, anyone mind looking at my server start file and see if im missin anything that should be in? I dunno if there is anything better yet but its been a while.

heavy rapids
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are you really sure you want 1.14

latent sorrel
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lol

woven otter
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I need leaf to call you retarded

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he does it in the best way

latent sorrel
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I have seen a lot of fun issues reported on 1.14

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But we havent played for a while and want the newest version

woven otter
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but you would actually deserve it because you're actually retarded

latent sorrel
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So you wanna peek at my start file or nah

heavy rapids
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Yeah, 1.14 basically had snapshot quality

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it improved with the .1, .2 and .3 releases

acoustic seal
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tfw I dont bother with any flags

woven otter
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wait are you MagmaCube \^-^

heavy rapids
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looks good for me, wolfgang

latent sorrel
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Cool

limber knotBOT
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see, unforgettable

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even though I never use that nick on irc

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go figure

woven otter
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see you're an ugly version of slime at best

limber knotBOT
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please

woven otter
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No pleasing

limber knotBOT
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have you not see my portrait portfolio

woven otter
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ofc not

limber knotBOT
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s/ee/een

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Correction, <^-^> have you not seen my portrait portfolio

woven otter
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huh

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that was weird

heavy rapids
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who's MagmaCube

woven otter
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loot

limber knotBOT
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I call this one

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"Paint me like one of your french girls"

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I call this one

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"I am better than Steve Jobs in every way because I am still alive and where is he?"

woven otter
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is it actually you

limber knotBOT
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I call this one

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"Now this is high effort shitposting"

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two possibilities duck

woven otter
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wdym

limber knotBOT
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either I accrued a bunch of really weird pics from some dude and set them aside just for this bit

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or that's me

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idk which one is better

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so I won't say

woven otter
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oh

heavy rapids
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I put my money on #1

woven otter
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yeah maybe you're into some random dude

heavy rapids
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timestamp or didn't happen

limber knotBOT
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now that's a hot gamer boy

acoustic seal
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the soundproofing makes me wet

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and I spy spigots site

woven otter
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look at those monitors though

limber knotBOT
acoustic seal
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I still call hanging for treason

woven otter
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that's blinding

acoustic seal
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Should be on Papers site

fallen oracle
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Got enough monitors?

ancient bolt
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vertical monitors are a sign of mental illness

woven otter
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he needs more monitors

limber knotBOT
woven otter
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vertical monitors are sign of hole in wallet

limber knotBOT
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I need to update these pics of my setup

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it's gotten better since

woven otter
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do you make music

limber knotBOT
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no

woven otter
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hmm interesting

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are you a streamer

limber knotBOT
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sorry

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I meant to say yes

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I only record world-class hits

woven otter
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🤔

limber knotBOT
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that make fun of Choco

woven otter
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is that good

limber knotBOT
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I stream only extremely occasionally

fallen oracle
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why am I lagging?

limber knotBOT
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but I do record videos now and then

woven otter
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so are you a youtuber

limber knotBOT
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no

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I make videos when I release public versions of my plugins

woven otter
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so can you link your twitch profile

limber knotBOT
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with updates

stiff yarrow
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I'm getting deja vu in here

fallen oracle
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I've been thinking about doing that too

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To showcase new features

limber knotBOT
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(^-^) EliteMobs 7.0.0 update - length 9m 41s - 21 likes, 2 dislikes (91.3%) - 883 views - MagmaGuy on 2019.04.12

void void
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yo

woven otter
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orders bunch of expensive equipment
posts videos about updates on some plugins

limber knotBOT
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why not

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it's not like I can't use it for other stuff when I want to

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Debugging Minecraft: The many stages of grief - length 3m 25s - 7 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 545 views - MagmaGuy on 2019.03.18

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classic

woven otter
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is patreon a new trend on spigot

limber knotBOT
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I should stream more

woven otter
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fuck can't type today

void void
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what plugins are the shit rn

woven otter
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Essentials

limber knotBOT
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I'd kill for some chewing gum rn

void void
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as opposed to non chewing gum

woven otter
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why do you need to chew something

limber knotBOT
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oh hell yeah the shopping center only closes at midnight today

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guess I'll go there real quick to grab some

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I'm kicking a caffeine habit and it sounds like a decent distraction

woven otter
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why would you do that

limber knotBOT
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because drinking 2.5 liters of soda, 3 coffees and an monster energy drink every day is no way to live past 30

heavy rapids
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Meth works really good for kicking the caffeine habit

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... I've heard

limber knotBOT
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also it's hell on my wallet

woven otter
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oh didn't think it was that bad

unreal quarry
steel valley
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Anyone here familiar with multicraft? (and more so how to setup custom startup params on my dedi)

limber knotBOT
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s/players'/the code for players'

stiff yarrow
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@woven otter this clip best include a debugger

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debugger 4lyfe

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oh its emoticon face guys channel

stiff yarrow
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emoticon face guy are you color blind, very unusual color scheme

woven otter
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Magma's clip?

unreal quarry
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no ^-^ is magmaguy

stiff yarrow
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I assume he wants to go by emoticon face guy since thats his nickname

unreal quarry
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md69 gave him that nick

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i refuse to acknowledge it

stiff yarrow
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oof getting renamed by someone else in IRC somehow

ancient bolt
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network ops can do that

woven otter
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hmmmmmm

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what's wrong

limber knotBOT
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[Xinayder] just installed paper on my server. worse tps than spigot :/

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nossr

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that's just darcula

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like one of the most popular schemes out there

upper flicker
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darcula doesnt ship that nasty deep purple by default though

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that looks like someone's bad "improvements" to it

limber knotBOT
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also I didn't get renamed, he asked me to change my nickname from ^-^|MagmaGuy to something more reasonable

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so I indulged him to this format

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and he banned me from changing it

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I'm pretty sure that was just the default darcula

upper flicker
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its the darcula theme but the text scheme is really bad

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super old version getting carried around?

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not sure how that'd happen

limber knotBOT
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maybe?

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define super old

woven otter
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hating on deep purple smh

limber knotBOT
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I can't even remember

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what was deep purple for

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final?

upper flicker
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I thought it was like the default scheme running on darcula

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but thats not a perfect match either

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constants maybe?

ancient bolt
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im going to start cleaning

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just so y'all know

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see y'all next year

limber knotBOT
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well, extra credits just fucked up

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(the yt channel)

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claimed games are turning games into nazis

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not a good look for a game-centric yt channel lol

stiff yarrow
acoustic pilot
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Doesn't sound at all like what they said, after a quick view

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I don't agree with them, but it's also not what they said lol

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ur nazi

acoustic pilot
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How does "you shouldn't be forced to randomly spawn as a nazi or terrorist in a game" get spun as "games turn you into nazis"

limber knotBOT
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if you claim you're normalizing nazis and that that leads to people then becoming nazis you are, in essence, turning people into nazis

acoustic pilot
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This is taking a jab at games like Counter-Strike and I assume whatever game that randomly makes you play as a Nazi

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And that's all it appears to be.

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In fact they are making that distinction specifically because they are saying people should have the CHOICE to play as a Nazi

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But it shouldn't be forced upon them

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It's a pretty short video

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Watch it

upper flicker
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CT v other... CT

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Im down

limber knotBOT
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if that were the case an even better complaint about people wanting to play as terrorrists or nazis in videogames would be made

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btw ct v other ct seemed to be the only existing example they condone at least for this video

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good stuff

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let's always all play ct v ct

upper flicker
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idk if they actually said that or were advocating it or not

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not really planning on watching the video

limber knotBOT
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they did

upper flicker
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sounds incredibly stupid if so

limber knotBOT
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rainbow six siege was the only example of online matchmaking done right that they pointed out

upper flicker
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if you dont like the choices made by the devs, dont buy the game

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people wont buy the game, devs wont make sales, devs either cater to market or die

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self correcting problem

acoustic pilot
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The only point in their video I have major gripes with is that "games should be historically accurate" in a certain sense, and that elevating nazis and terrorists is bad

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Obviously flawed logic

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Indeed, the normalization of it all, but it strongly focuses on the playability of it

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Seems their problem is being forced into roles they don't wanna play

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To which my answer is

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Don't play the fucking game.

limber knotBOT
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that's everyone's answer to it

acoustic pilot
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But my takeaway from that wasn't "games turn people into nazis" really

limber knotBOT
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it's a stupid issue to have in the first place

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if you can't detach yourself from the character you're playing as then you have no business consuming fiction in general

acoustic pilot
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These guys seem to be big on "ethical gaming" though watever the fuck that is

upper flicker
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its "x thing that shares our view is acceptable"

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and everything that doesnt is bad

void void
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who are you guys talking about

upper flicker
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which is a very popular position to take in general anymore

acoustic pilot
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Some 2M sub YT channel called Extra Credits

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Crying about buying a game and being forced to play as nazis or terrorists

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By random selection or some other mechanic

wide hazel
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oh, I watch EC all the time

limber knotBOT
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hey if this gets extra tasty they may not be 2m for long

acoustic pilot
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e.g. Counter-Strike

wide hazel
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haven't seen whatever you're talking about though

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EC is a channel that focuses on game development, though they dive into ethical issues as well

acoustic pilot
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11k likes, 94k dislikes on the video right now

wide hazel
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rip

limber knotBOT
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I stopped watching when they switched narrators

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the old one really had its charm

wide hazel
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same, but I watch on occasion still

limber knotBOT
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I watched two videos total since and this was one of them lol

wide hazel
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rip

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will have to check it out

limber knotBOT
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I did watch literally every video with the old narrator though

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I'm currently looking at the live counter

acoustic pilot
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Honestly their points are more reasonable than most people on the other side of the fence about this issue

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They just wanna ban gaming and various forms of art altogether lol

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But yeah, totally disagree with them

wide hazel
limber knotBOT
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oh did I mention

acoustic pilot
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Ethics should always start at home, with parents or guardians.

limber knotBOT
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their community manager also kicked up a storm on twitter by basically insulting people who unsubbed and saying good riddance

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truly an epic gamer moment

upper flicker
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I mean

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if they dont wanna watch

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good riddance is fine

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dont need it both ways

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is some retard complaining about a game agai

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n

upper flicker
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someone is complaining about games

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🍿

limber knotBOT
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aw did they delete tweets

upper flicker
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people are complaining that the people complaining are complaining

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lots of complaining

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z stop complaining 😠

upper flicker
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sorry mom :c

acoustic pilot
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i wanna make a complaint about Z, because he isnt complaining about all the people complaining about the people comaplining

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yeah

wide hazel
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I'm generally inclined to say "whoa, hol' up now" when it comes to EC since they generally take a level-headed approach to their topics

limber knotBOT
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damn I actually think they deleted tweets

wide hazel
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haven't seen the video yet, but I'll bet a lot of this hate is misguided

acoustic pilot
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I don't know why the video is THAT controversial, but it seems like they aren't handling the situation very gracefully either lol

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tbh the video makes some interesting points, I disagree with them, but they were interesting

wide hazel
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that's the point of their videos, yeah

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they don't want everyone to agree with everything they put out

limber knotBOT
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from what I heard they seemingly said that everyone unsubbing was a racist which is a fantastic look but I can't find anything at this point

wide hazel
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so they make some more controversial topic videos or play devil's advocate sometimes

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it's refreshing

upper flicker
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well that seems like the type of tweet worth deleting

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and firing their idiot manager over

limber knotBOT
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then again I suck at twitter, since I visit that website like once a year

acoustic pilot
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There wasn't anything in the video that made me wanna cringe and tell them to fuck off

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That's for sure.

wide hazel
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yeah, betting there's a lot of overreactions and misunderstandings around there

limber knotBOT
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I sort of agree with the outraged party for once

acoustic pilot
wide hazel
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alright, let me watch this thing

upper flicker
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Im actually watching it now

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not a regular subscriber so all fresh for me

limber knotBOT
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if they didn't say videogames are turning people into racists/nazis they at very least flirted with the idea and placed it one step below that

acoustic pilot
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it's only 6 mins lol

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Sure, they flirted with the idea somewhat

limber knotBOT
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then that's just a cowardly way of reaching the same conclusion

acoustic pilot
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That's why I said their position is actually a bit more interesting than those of people who are usually on the other side of the fence, who believe that video games and movies are the cause of violence due to normalization

limber knotBOT
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maybe you won't leave videogames marching in steplock but they at least claim that it's a good primer

acoustic pilot
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It's a bit more nuanced, I guess I should say.

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The outrage seems really overblown but I dunno

limber knotBOT
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I scarcely see it as more nuanced

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I've always been of the opinion that fiction is just that, fiction

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my opinion is that cancer is just cancer sometimes

limber knotBOT
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I mean sometimes it's a discord chat

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or a youtube comment section

upper flicker
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its usually both of those things

limber knotBOT
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you're saying that every yt comment section should have discord integration?

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I'm on it

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hell yeah

acoustic pilot
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"If I'm going to play as a Nazi, at least let me choose" (he shouldn't made that choice with his wallet) and "If I'm going to play as a Nazi, at least make it historically accurate and within the appropriate context" (this is dancing with that "games make you a nazi" idea)

upper flicker
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theyre already disabling comments by default on android in certain regions anyway

acoustic pilot
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But those do seem nuanced

upper flicker
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so video is over

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let's hear z's opinion

upper flicker
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seems like a very nuanced explanation of an incredibly toxic view point

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yeah thats a dislike from me

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oooo toxic

upper flicker
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94k.000001

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where's this video

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am wanna see

acoustic pilot
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Stop Normalizing Nazis - Socially Conscious Game Design - Extra Credits - length 5m 57s - 11,362 likes, 95,166 dislikes (10.7%) - 395,071 views - Extra Credits on 2019.07.03

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honestly I'd be more worried if my cs:go matches always were against people who wanted to be terrorists not for the loadout but because ideologically that's what they want to play as

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ah yes

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what a title

acoustic pilot
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haha

limber knotBOT
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like, wtf

upper flicker
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they talk about opting into this but it seems like you do that by buying the game

limber knotBOT
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"Why yes the nazis had the right idea that's the side I'm backing!"

acoustic pilot
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yep

upper flicker
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and then they draw attention to rainbow six being a good way to do it

acoustic pilot
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if you bought the game, you already made your choice

upper flicker
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but there's always a team on rainbow six whose job is to guard the bomb or the hostage

limber knotBOT
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s/the hostage/shoot the hostage

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oh no this has already given me cancer

upper flicker
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so theyre not technically calling them terrorists but they serve the same function

limber knotBOT
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Correction, <DiscordBot> <07Z​75​0> but there's always a team on rainbow six whose job is to guard the bomb or shoot the hostage

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politically correct terrorism

upper flicker
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its a meaningless distinction that really only serves to overprotect people who are probably too disillusioned to consume any meaningful content anyway

limber knotBOT
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in anno domini 2019

upper flicker
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and limits the hell out of potential expression of everything

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and it feels like they would never have made this exact same argument about something like traditional art

acoustic pilot
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Probably not even modern art like movies

wide hazel
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I agree with the ultimate idea of "what you get or choose means something" but not a lot else in that video

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mostly because I like the idea of choices or scenarios having meaning behind them

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ah yes let's not show anything because normalize

wide hazel
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I like my story

limber knotBOT
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not every game has to have matches that mean something

acoustic pilot
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That's fine

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But then don't buy a game that makes you play as a nazi without a story

limber knotBOT
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like literally no battle royale or moba has matches that matter for anything

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we should stop showing z's face to stop normalizing cancer

upper flicker
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oofers

wide hazel
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yeah, exactly. I buy games I like, problem solved

limber knotBOT
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and those two account for two of the most played games ever created

wide hazel
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the onus is on the purchaser- the one with money

limber knotBOT
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a/on/an

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oops

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missed

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damn

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rainbow six has no terrorists?

limber knotBOT
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no, it's ct v ct

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is this video correct or did I live under a rock for that one

wide hazel
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same

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was curious about that

upper flicker
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their argument is that its ct v ct

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but its a meaningless distinction

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yes z I know

upper flicker
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someones job is to be the bad guy

limber knotBOT
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it's supposed to be a joint training exercise

merry talon
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they're just not called terrorists LUL

acoustic pilot
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"Rainbow Six Siege is just one example of a game that includes thrilling PvP mechanics without normalizing morally wrong ideologies."

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in their video desc too

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lol

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I'm wondering if this video is correct in that rainbow six is ct vs ct

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not whether their cancerous argument is correct

merry talon
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what the fuck are those last 4 words

limber knotBOT
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why did they pick the one example that doesn't have you fighting against a "problematic" side

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like, you're not solving anything

merry talon
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That can be applied to literally any game

wide hazel
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I like War for the Overworld and Dungeon Keeper, but that doesn't mean they're desensitizing me from.. Being the ultimate evil I guess?

acoustic pilot
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In my opinion

limber knotBOT
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you monster egg82

acoustic pilot
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Violence is a morally wrong idealogy

wide hazel
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ikr

acoustic pilot
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Guess we ain't playing violent games

upper flicker
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hello kitty world adventure here we go

merry talon
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rated E for cartoon violence

acoustic pilot
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does hello kitty get hurt in that?

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i will tolerate no violence whatsoever

limber knotBOT
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I mean I must be a genocidal maniac with a propensity for polluting a world to death because my favorite game in 2019 is a heavily modded factorio loadout where the enemies are relentless, the pollution is rampant and you have to rush for nukes before they eat all of your walls

wide hazel
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also it raises moral questions about "who was 'right'?" and "what does 'right' mean?"

upper flicker
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the victors were right

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well this gave me cancer

upper flicker
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thats history

acoustic pilot
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right is whoever writes the history books

merry talon
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you already had brain cancer

wide hazel
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the villain never sees themselves as a villain. That's not how history works.

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the good ol take games too seriously and forget they're fantasy

wide hazel
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nobody wakes up one day and goes "I'mma be evil!"

acoustic pilot
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except maybe leaf

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he was born evil

upper flicker
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I would really like to see them try and make this exact video for some other media

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alright u fuks

upper flicker
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and I just dont think they would

limber knotBOT
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STOP NORMALIZING DRAGON SLAYING

merry talon
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yeah, happens with movies and shows even more so

limber knotBOT
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DRAGONS ARE PEOPLE TOO

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u know y r ur movie show bad guy

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that normalize

acoustic pilot
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Their video seems to be ideologically centric

golden gust
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All I'm saying is that one dragon is one dragon too many

upper flicker
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same with ducks

limber knotBOT
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this specific video interestingly enough aligns with the good old "videogames make kids violent" mentality from way back when

acoustic pilot
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It's a nuanced variation of that

limber knotBOT
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man I remember life before videogames

acoustic pilot
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Without being exactly that

limber knotBOT
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I didn't go everywhere with a katana

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it's that but said differently

limber knotBOT
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slicing up shopkeepers to save $2.50 on a pack of gum

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"u make people nazis by having them play that in ur game"

limber knotBOT
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fortunately I played a lot of GTA so I know how to evade the cops real good

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I can't really give a flying shit bout how it's said :>

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well it wasn't exaclty make people nazis

wide hazel
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it's a different issue, I'd say. Normalizing bad behavior vs "making kids violent" - the violence theory USES "normalization of violence" as an excuse (and their main point) but they're not the same argument

acoustic pilot
#

The broader impact of normalizing harmful ideologies, seemingly caused by randomly placing people into Nazi or Terrorist teams lol

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If people had a choice, they'd all be nazis or terrorists

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😄

limber knotBOT
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sure, one's violence and the other is nazis

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but they are both leaning on the same core principle

static badge
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look lemme enlighten you for a moment

limber knotBOT
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you do thing in videogame then you do thing in real life

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I'm going to pick T in CS because I like to attack defenders

limber knotBOT
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you monster

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for the people that actually play games they really don't give a shit what side it is

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turns out they play for fun

acoustic pilot
#

Well Leaf is prob an actual terrorist IRL

limber knotBOT
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yeah I've just now called the FBI on him

wide hazel
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could just be labeled "defense" and "offence" - no real need for "terrorist" or "whatever the fuck good-guy"

static badge
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some maps are also T-sided

merry talon
#

<-- never willingly picked T in cs

static badge
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and as such you might wanna go T first :>

merry talon
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CT guns are cooler

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and T has the ak

acoustic pilot
#

Oh, renaming things is teh same thing IMO

limber knotBOT
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the AK is a staple of that game

merry talon
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ak is dum

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ak is god tier

upper flicker
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One bang with the AK is lyfe

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one tap z

limber knotBOT
#

look at all these terrorists

merry talon
#

If I know anything from your overwatch experience

limber knotBOT
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we should've listened to extra credit's warnings!

merry talon
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u just get an awp and shoot walls all day

limber knotBOT
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ripperoni

merry talon
limber knotBOT
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extra toasty

upper flicker
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Subscribers are temporary

limber knotBOT
#

tell that to projared

acoustic pilot
#

doesn't seem like they lost much

static badge
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z ur temporary

upper flicker
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They'll be back in a week if they stop spewing crap on Twitter

limber knotBOT
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I think it's only picking up now honestly

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it's probably going to get bigger over the next couple of days or so

static badge
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subscribers are temporary but dumb is forever

limber knotBOT
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also one thing people tend to forget is that youtube has a lot of "dead" subscribers

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the ones you lose are the active ones

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doesn't matter if you have 10mil subs if they're 10mil dead accounts

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all ur subs are dead

limber knotBOT
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or at least accounts that don't actually watch your channel

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this is why you know this yeah?

limber knotBOT
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they can't be dead spotted

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because I barely have any :D

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mfw

acoustic pilot
upper flicker
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Just release some more regularly scheduled content

acoustic pilot
#

yeah

upper flicker
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Sure they have more in the pipeline

limber knotBOT
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honestly I only heard about it because penguinz0 made a video about it like a couple of hours ago or something

upper flicker
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And tell their manager or whoever the tweet supposedly was from to stop being stupid

limber knotBOT
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I think other gaming yters are about to pick it up

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ah penguinz0

acoustic pilot
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what does that do lol

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what a legendary man

acoustic pilot
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it gives them more subs

limber knotBOT
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stay moist my friends

upper flicker
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This is one of those small set backs that can be as big or as small as they make it

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More power to them

limber knotBOT
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well clearly it does not byte

acoustic pilot
#

Other YTers talking about them, is like giving away their subs to EC

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Because it's not like their subs overlap by any huge amount

static badge
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yeah the subs who cared already watched

acoustic pilot
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Anyone who is overlapping in both channels would've already seen EC's video and decided whether to unsub or not

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so any other channel drawing attention to EC is just free publicity for EC

limber knotBOT
#

people are still going to pile on and dislike

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also if your dislike ratio is low enough (was it under 75%?) youtube starts deprioritizing your videos from recommendations

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and that hurts real bad

acoustic pilot
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EC probably gonna bounce back harder if they get more YT attention

limber knotBOT
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I mean I'm pretty sure they fired their community manager since then so I think they'll bounce back just fine

static badge
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yeah there could be some youtube algorithm shit involved

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that'd be temporary though unless they consitently be retarded

limber knotBOT
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people underestimate just how much it hurts to lose recommendation priority

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it's a big growth stunt

acoustic pilot
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It'd probably required a brigade of dislikes for the forseeable future, not just one video

limber knotBOT
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I mean as long as they stop accusing people who unsub of being racist I'm sure they'll be fine

static badge
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ur wacist

limber knotBOT
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oof

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I did not know this spotted

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thank you for elucidating me

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ye

limber knotBOT
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guys turns out i'm racist, what do

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ur dum so i gotta

limber knotBOT
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who should I hate on

acoustic pilot
#

their video after the controversial one has 8k likes, 600 dislikes, so no brigade

limber knotBOT
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not yet, we'll see

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might as well unsub, I've not been around since their narrator left

void void
#

Any tips on how to keep a survival world for a long time without reseting? Since player come and go, the survival world will be full of old builds that is left behind by early people who join a server 😃

limber knotBOT
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random teleportation helps with that

void void
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change the spawnpoint i guess

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and rand tp

limber knotBOT
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player-handled land management can also help

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like allow players to claim and protect land with currency or something

void void
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I see

limber knotBOT
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and they're now sub 2.135mil

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weee

void void
#

Also, if a minecraft have a map update like the aquatic update, will a server rest its map completely if that server wants to keep up to date?

limber knotBOT
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you could pregenerate the map up to a certain radius, then extend the world border when an update drops and pregenerate some more land so the new terrain is all from the new update

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but it's not recommended

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it looks like garbage and minecraft has been known to corrupt chunks from older saves

void void
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So a complete reset would be highly recommended for that

limber knotBOT
#

you'd be better off keeping old maps available in low capacity museum servers

void void
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Hmm ok

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is 7kx7k enough for a 70 players server?

limber knotBOT
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mind you it tends to take between one and two years before you need a map reset

void void
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Yea I see that

limber knotBOT
#

that depends more on your players than on any arbitrary things we might say

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I have players that build over 40kx40k areas

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I have others than stick to 9x9x9 spaces

void void
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What?! 40kx40k?

limber knotBOT
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yeah he uses runecraft machines to auto harvest resources and 3d print whatever he feels like printing

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he's a bit of an extreme case among extreme cases though

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lol

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LUL

limber knotBOT
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I mean

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raiden isn't wrong

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it would be faster and more convenient... for the user

left yacht
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@void void depends

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will the server be resetting?

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what version

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and what gamemode

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for factions and 800 players we use a 7k radius map

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14k diameter

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but for our 180 player towny server we need a 20k radius map (which never resets)

limber knotBOT
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oh no now that you've leaked these precious details I shall start copycatting your system

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just watch me

void void
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why factions has small border though @left yacht ti

left yacht
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mainly so you can find bases quickly

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and keeps action going

void void
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I see

left yacht
#

also the world isn't lonely at all

limber knotBOT
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lol make it an infinite world titan, and make sure the rtp is tweaked so no two players will ever be able to meet

left yacht
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also OVH fucked up recently and knocked out a bunch of our boxes

unreal quarry
#

you too?

void void
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What can u recommend for a 70 player server with 10gb of ram. Survival anti-grief server

unreal quarry
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my whole rack is down right now

limber knotBOT
#

sounds like a refund to me

left yacht
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our MC-64-OC machines

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are dead

unreal quarry
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T06G in BHS

left yacht
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rn

void void
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Is 7kx7k enough?

left yacht
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T06G09

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for us

unreal quarry
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i'm T06G11 :3

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the whole 06G rack is down

limber knotBOT
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it's probably enough addy

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and if it isn't just make it bigger

left yacht
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it's an electrical issue billy

unreal quarry
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i know

unreal quarry
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just got off phone

left yacht
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dope

limber knotBOT
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didn't they have an electrical issue not too long ago?

unreal quarry
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they said just keep watching the ticket. they are aware and working on it

cobalt surge
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IM already on top of it!!!!

limber knotBOT
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like their montreal db went globally down for a while because the something killed their electricity or smthing

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I said db but that's not the right term

left yacht
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A few days ago we had all 4 proxy machines down to a billing error on OVH's behalf.

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so we've had a rough week

limber knotBOT
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damn

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which storefront are you using?

left yacht
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OVH didn't auto bill us and killed the dedis, I had to open a support ticket to get them back

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as they were removed off of the account entirely

limber knotBOT
#

real talk I think OVH is actively trying to prevent me from paying my bills

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I straight up can't log in to my web panel through firefox

left yacht
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their billing system has so many issues.

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and it pisses me the fuck off

limber knotBOT
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used to be that they gave you a direct link to pay on the emails

void void
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TitanicFreak

limber knotBOT
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those were the days

void void
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Can I add u

left yacht
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is 7k your radius or diameter

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and sure

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don't expect me to answer questions often though

void void
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Yes

left yacht
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I come and go a lot in here whenever I have nothing to do

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imagine answering a multiple choice question with yes

void void
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Thats all my questions but I have one more thoughh

limber knotBOT
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yeah sounds like you have many thing not to do right now titanic

left yacht
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I mean the dedis are down, what do you want me to do

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I could just yeet myself off a bridge

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what is with this yeet term

left yacht
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I deal with kids 24/7

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help me pls

limber knotBOT
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you're supposed to yeet them off a bridge

void void
#

Titanic whats ur discord id

left yacht
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right click my name, add as friend

limber knotBOT
#

123butts#69

left yacht
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what version of discord are you on that requires my ID?

unreal quarry
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@left yacht my box is back up

void void
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Phone version

unreal quarry
#

no reboot either. so it was a switch or something that went out

left yacht
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oh shit

void void
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Im new to it

left yacht
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mine is too

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root@aelita1 ~# uptime
20:37:41 up 110 days, 17:22, 1 user, load average: 1.14, 0.80, 0.72
root@aelita1 ~#

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1.14

limber knotBOT
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man I really am procrastinating on writing this changelog

left yacht
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ok so my server just crashed while feteching skulls

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dammit

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welp, thanks for alerting me

limber knotBOT
#

stop getting 200k skulls at a time dude

left yacht
#

it was a single skull ok

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don't kinkshame me

limber knotBOT
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my man, death itself could not prevent me from kinkshaming you

void void
#

Cant dm u titanic, it said msg fail

left yacht
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DMs are off in this server

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I added you

limber knotBOT
#

jesus addy are you running your discord client off of a commodore 64

left yacht
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(yes I'm the one person that uses per server privacy settings)

cosmic raft
#

you're not the only person

void void
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definitely not

limber knotBOT
#

huh I should probably do that too

left yacht
#

imagine using IRC

limber knotBOT
#

i don't need to imagine

left yacht
#

oml

limber knotBOT
#

my man

stiff yarrow
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@left yacht don't add randoms bruh it isn't worth it

limber knotBOT
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add me senpai

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I'll send you 200k pics of skulls every 5 minutes

unreal quarry
#

i just leave mine open and ignore people that pm me

left yacht
#

oh so putting people on read

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you see if I don't respond to people

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they get progressively more and more pissed

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and then start causing riots on my servers (though I'm deploying an anti riot chat filter soon)

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thanks @ornate spindle ily

stiff yarrow
#

I've had people get pissed at me for not letting them DM me

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better than letting them DM me though

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nossr lemme dm you 😠\

limber knotBOT
#

would you let me slide into your dms nossr

stiff yarrow
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probably

limber knotBOT
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then I won't

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I wouldn't dm anyone who would want me to dm them

stiff yarrow
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I'm mostly filtering out randos

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not other devs

limber knotBOT
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it's beneath me

ornate spindle
#

you're finally deploying the automuter on factions? @left yacht

stiff yarrow
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where did I imply I wanted it emoticon face man weSmart

void void
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caution drug use O_O

limber knotBOT
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please don't link to fb

left yacht
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@ornate spindle you made me jump out of my seat but yes

limber knotBOT
#

ever

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I'm trying real hard to pretend it doesn't exist

left yacht
#

there

void void
#

well, sux for you. don't click then

left yacht
#

discord pls don't shit yourself now

ornate spindle
#

our mutes page is going to hit 100k entries in like 2 days

limber knotBOT
#

reminds me I should probably release that limbo plugin some day

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it automatically allocated infractors to a walled off world/server

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allocates* boy I need to change the color scheme of this I can hardly read what I'm typing

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it'd be a lovely place full of sisyphean tasks

unreal quarry
#

holy balls, i just found an old ass pic with me in it. who wants to see what i looked like when I was ya'll age? ^_^

static badge
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let's go

unreal quarry
#

blue shirt, standing, 2nd from left

limber knotBOT
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damn I was hoping you were bot right

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throwing gang signs

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wow the beard really does make the diff

limber knotBOT
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you guys wanna see me from uh

static badge
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and that baldness

limber knotBOT
#

6 years ago

unreal quarry
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i was probably 17-18 ish in that pic

fallen oracle
#

/r/BlunderYears

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reddit

limber knotBOT
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ur head looks massive

limber knotBOT
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I was a big lad

unreal quarry
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lmao

limber knotBOT
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that was 6 years ago but also 25kg ago

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(55lbs)

unreal quarry
#

reminds me of that scene in super troopers where a canadian yells something about 90kg at the dude, and he's all "idk if he just called me fat or skinny"

limber knotBOT
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some say all of that weight was converted into additional monitors

azure mason
ancient bolt
#

I'm so fat

latent sorrel
#

*phat

limber knotBOT
#

thicc

latent sorrel
#

I am ashamed to report that I could not think of another word to correct that to.

limber knotBOT
#

extra chunky

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captain chunk

limber knotBOT
#

BLACK HOLE

cosmic raft
#

gotta love these names

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$$Lambda$232/0x00000008011ff040@5579bb86

limber knotBOT
#

that's a good name yo

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I'll buy it for $1

latent sorrel
#

What is that naming btw? I didnt really understand the pages much when I was looking for errors related to that.

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I know its not a player

void void
#

anonymous classes

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lambda

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nice to see those also lack line source too

ancient bolt
#

I should probably finish paperd

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considering it's done

tropic flame
ancient bolt
#

i tried to get banned from spigotmc so many times

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never would do it

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really sad

static badge
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you could probably get banned easily

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why didn't ya kappa

ancient bolt
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idk

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but he never would ban me

unreal quarry
#

just say "spigot sux. paper is better" that should do it

ancient bolt
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even when I was having "shouting" arguments with him in #spigot

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i said shit like talking about how awful of a job he's done at growing the bukkit API and other things

unreal quarry
#

but you didnt mention paper

static badge
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that's not ban worthy tbh

ancient bolt
#

oh i mentioned paper several times

static badge
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maybe mute worthy if you refused to shut up

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and spammed

unreal quarry
#

"i need you to look over these papers for me" banned

ancient bolt
#

i never spammed

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

static badge
#

yeah that's why :>

void void
#

I've been tbanned from spigot for saying "Pm me" because he thought I was telling someone to use paper.

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(I was, but still.)

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He's crazy paranoid

unreal quarry
#

i give it a year and spigot will just be that middle man project between vanilla and paper that no one really uses

ancient bolt
#

paper has grown substantially but it's still the minority

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idk if/when paper will ever overtake spigot in that regard

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I really can't wait to be the bad guy that everyone hates tho

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sooner the better

unreal quarry
#

~20k out of 60k is a large minority, though. i watched paper grow from 2k to 20k in a year, while spigot stays 50-60k

ancient bolt
#

I've been taking notes on how md_5 handles stuff, I'm ready

static badge
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demon wants to be the bad boy whip

ancient bolt
sonic goblet
ancient bolt
#

ah fuck

#

macos nix rust crate doesn't have the unix message queue functions exported or w/e

#

I chose those specifically so I could work on this on my mac too if I wanted to 😦

acoustic pilot
#

YourKit EAP just started, cool

ancient bolt
#

I can define the functions myself in an extern block easily enough, that works

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linux will still be the only target, but at least I can develop on macos for it

austere ivy
#

Howdy folks peepoJuice

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Hi folks peepoJuice

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Wait, hi or howdy?

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What have I done before?

#

Was it just.. Hello peepoJuice

#

Hmm. I think I'll do.. Howdy folks peepoJuice

neat sequoia
austere ivy
#

Hey Narwhal akoalawaveright

frozen panther
austere ivy
#

Hey Rel akoalawaveleft

latent sorrel
#

set service view distance to 200billion for a test. Pray for my computer boys

austere ivy
latent sorrel
#

turns out the client wont go past 64 distance

austere ivy
#

,_,

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It will with OptiFine.

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Goes up to 128.

#

anime wow sound effect

latent sorrel
#

Im runiing the newest version of optifine and it maxes at 64

#

Please post the correct anime counter face

limber knotBOT
#

sir you have found to be a filthy weeb

#

please remove yourself from the premises

#

before we call the furry pawlice

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owo Wut's this then?

latent sorrel
#

furries are worse than weebs tho

limber knotBOT
#

says you

austere ivy
#

^-^

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\^-^

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\\

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\\\

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\\\\

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\\\\\\\

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I'm so confused.

steep stratus
limber knotBOT
#

I'm pretty sure that's a preexisting condition for you

austere ivy
#

huh.

latent sorrel
#

oh due to your similar avatars and style of typing I thought you were 1 person

#

just typin away

limber knotBOT
#

what

#

you see the tag that says "bot" right

unreal quarry
#

i think he said you look like brian

limber knotBOT
#

also you insult me by implying that I'm in any way similar to tehbrian

void void
#

IJ crashes on open for me in Catalina

#

This is awesome

fallen oracle
#

Catalina?

void void
#

mac

limber knotBOT
#

lol imagine using macOS

void void
#

dont need the dick comments

limber knotBOT
#

then you shouldn't use macOS

void void
#

There are multiple people in here that use Mac, which is why I said it. Hoping maybe they encountered the same thing and have a solution

#

But yes, thanks for your insight

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Or lack thereof

limber knotBOT
#

Meanwhile Windows gets trashed on the daily almost

#

🤔

#

I think u can take some heat

#

build some c h a r a c t e r

void void
#

I'm far from an apple fanboy, I just don't appreciate the trash talk when I actually need help

fleet osprey
#

I've used IntellIJ on a +5 year old mac with 1.0 ghz before, and it worked fine

limber knotBOT
#

sorry, let me give you a solution

#

don't use mac

#

it's magmaguy

void void
#

It's like the comment serves nothing than just to be a dick

#

For no reason, just to be a dick

limber knotBOT
#

I mean I'm giving you solid life advice and you're just throwing it back at my face

#

did u look at sum logs

#

cuz i assume it just uses jre just like it does on windows and linux

upper flicker
#

I haven't had any issues with IJ on catalina but I did a clean install

#

The logs are probably going to be your friend

void void
#

Yep trying to find them

golden gust
#

I've been having issues crashing, but that might be the EAPs tbh

#

(I do have mcmmo open in there thonk )

void void
#

Just dies when I open any project

golden gust
#

Also, I've been having odd issues with byof

#

(seems to be 100% down to some issue with handling around apples weird ass filesystem changes...)

void void
#

yeah all my apps have been rerequesting fs perms recently, maybe I need to give IJ perms lol

limber knotBOT
#

so there u go, > macOS

upper flicker
#

If it makes you feel better, W10 insider preview is also a catastrophe

#

So really we're all just dumb for using unstable releases

golden gust
#

\o/

void void
#

yes

limber knotBOT
#

is it that Windows Next cumulative release or wat

#

I have one PC on slow ring

#

haven't had any PC on fast for several years now

upper flicker
#

Fast ring is on the 2020 release now

#

Idk about slow

#

They're shaping up the 2019 fall release to be super tiny so I think they're moving people off

limber knotBOT
#

I still like Windows 8.1, Tablet mode still is lacking

upper flicker
#

Yeah for a touch screen 8 was still better

#

It's just that that is a small share anyway

#

Tbh it's probably a notably bigger share now then it was then

limber knotBOT
#

I hate how the start screen/menu is still considered an app

upper flicker
#

Which is just funny

limber knotBOT
#

and thus is suspended in low RAM situations

austere ivy
#

Also can confirm with a super bad Mac, IntelliJ runs just fine.

void void
#

It was the JB runtime.

#

Switching to my installed jre fixed it

golden gust
#

speaking about unstable releases

#

it just KPd

void void
#

@austere ivy are you running catalina though

#

that was the point, it runs fine on stable :p

austere ivy
#

Mojave, isn't Catalina still in beta?

void void
#

yes

golden gust
#

Yea

austere ivy
#

Other computer which I was saying was a "super bad mac" is restricted to High Sierra

#

So that one's High Sierra

void void
#

yup never had an issue on stable macos, my question was limited specifically to the beta build

golden gust
#

Was debating on doing the unsupported upgrade attempt 2 for my mbp, not too sure if I can be assed though

austere ivy
#

For my old macbook I think I'm gonna put it on a super light linux, arch or mint or something whatever I can find

#

I might just use it as a server

#

It's not even great for even web browsing let alone doing anything productive so I'll just send it off to do some work like a random MC server and it won't really matter to me if it blows up or anything

#

One thing I really dislike about Mojave is the new screenshotting mechanism.

#

I like the idea of having a screenshot and easily being able to send it to someone or edit it slightly but the thing I don't like is how it takes 10-5 seconds to pop up on the desktop, messes with my workflow of, take a screenshot quickly then send it over Discord to someone. That kind of thing.

upper flicker
#

You're supposed to be able to take that preview pop up and drag it wherever

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Doesn't look like discord ever got updated to let that work

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Or electron or whatever

acoustic pilot
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This has apparently kicked off some kind of ice cream licking challenge lol

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Prob gonna stay away from ice cream for a while

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acoustic pilot
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Oh wow, Jeffrey Epstein just got charged

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Happened a few hours ago

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.g Jeffrey Epstein

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(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein -- Jeffrey Epstein - Wikipedia: "Jeffrey Edward Epstein (born January 20, 1953) is an American financier, science and research philanthropist, and registered sex offender. Epstein..."

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how know, sometimes we just forget how amazing the internet is

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I decided to look up wtf a flowbee was and did an image search on duckduckgo

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then absent-mindedly scrolled now and found someone using one on their pubes

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every day is a new adventure

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really? I learned the opposite

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also always, ALWAYS have safesearch off

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I want to experience the internet in its full glory

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idk maybe I'm too jaded for it really to get to me

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oh dude you can get lollipop painkillers?

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see, there's always something fun to discover

dusky chasm
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would anyone be able to help me with someon ddos'ing my dedi through apache? i am not really sure how to stop it from happening D:

acoustic pilot
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put it behind cloudflare

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firewall off any access to your web server except from cloudflare's IPs

fallen oracle
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Good idea ^ cause then it will filter out the l7 stuff

acoustic pilot
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and the volumetric l3 and l4 attacks, too

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cloudflare does more than l7 😉

fallen oracle
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Ya

void void
reef arch
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@slim nymph Add me please 👀

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inb4 some weird offer

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unreal quarry
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he wants to lick his ice cream

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🤔

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wtf why kick me

upper flicker
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⚠ Please do not ping project staff, contributors, or notable persons directly. Ask your questions to the channel flat out

reef arch
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i just want to ask some question about my server

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ah yes

unreal quarry
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for breaking the rules

reef arch
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o ok

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sry

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is that the same rule list containing

reef arch
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👀

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reef arch
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help me with this please

unreal quarry
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smh 1.8.8

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that version is no longer supported (hasnt been in a loooong time). this means, you're on your own

reef arch
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yes i know

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chunk loading hit hard

reef arch
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have no ideas about it

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but it looks like the plugins hit too

reef arch
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i debugged it 2 days

golden gust
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You're running a version we haven't cared about in years, meaning that you're missing out on years of tweaks and improvements to the server software

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I hardly remember what I had for breakfast, forget information that was relevant yeears ago

reef arch
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eveything is good shortly after launching the server

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I'm asking the experienced developers about this bug

unreal quarry
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maybe there's a language barrier. how do you say "unsupported" in other languages? anyone know?

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who

golden gust
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It's not a bug, if you read your own timings you would see one of the major sources of issues is clearly highlighted

reef arch
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yeah it's chunk loading

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actually i want to solve it

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but have no ideas

golden gust
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You have 20 ticks out of however many which have actually experienced a spike

reef arch
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yeah it is the customed paperspigot

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@reef arch [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

golden gust
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That spike is pretty easilly attiributable to chunk loading and a very specific plugin in your timings highlights up to all heck

reef arch
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multi-threaded spigot

golden gust
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So, you're not even using our software

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Good luck

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monkaMEGA multi-threaded spigot

dusky chasm
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how would i go about putting a firewall against anything except through cloudflare's ips?
I run my server & web server off the same machine

reef arch
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🤔 no i just asking the experienced developers here

golden gust
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You're running a janked up build

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So, not only are you expecting us to recall information that was relevant 4 years ago

reef arch
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i guess it is because of my plugin, and one has ideas?

golden gust
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A large chunk of that information will be dubious on the basis that we have no idea what the person who screwed with that jar did

reef arch
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No it works fine without my practice plugin

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🤔

golden gust
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and I can say that multithreading in spigot is honestly stupid

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so you already know the issue

golden gust
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You mean the plugin which timings is literally saying takes up 400% of a tick?

reef arch
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yea

unreal quarry
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*538%

reef arch
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idk where goes wrong

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😡

golden gust
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Now you get to debug even deeper than timings allows, you'll want to use a profiler or something

reef arch
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i tried spark

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it just like a