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my recurring nightmare
has been me in a basement, very dark, and a train comes into it with someone evil who chases me up the stairs
but i fall down them
Now that I know T-Rex likely looked like a gigantic fucking chicken and didn't roar but probably "coo"'d, it's more funny than scary.
I'd just imagine it clapping it's hands or trying to tie its sneakers.
As a kid I dreamt of my clock turning evil at midnight, having a dirty face and just magically locking all doors in the house, trapping me 😂
I think they call those Nests now.
Just imagine like a Disney villain look with smudge on his face
"icing"
Wtf
If I was ever in such a class, I'd drop it.
Don't have time for the shenanigans
I'm here to learn
Not be fucking brainwashed
ours are 😂
Not too sure, we‘ll read reference letters later
But it certainly is a lot 
each paragraph focuses on a different body part 
"I love your eyes because...."
8 paragraphs later
"I love your NSFW because...."
That whole class is creepy AF
Prof never received love letters, so makes class write some to her

That’s also a way to frame it 😂
She'll probably grab a class of wine and her special friends why reading some (or all) of them. Honestly, if you thought I was kidding when I said I'd drop I'm not. That is so creepy. And unprofessional tbh
I’ll just subtly make it a hate letter by writing “... and you are the exact opposite of all that” at the end
Oh that’s good haha

You're going to start getting emails after the class, and it's going to turn harrassment
Well writing messages on the bike isn’t fun, so bye for now
Adios chai
Does 1.14 have map issues?
Don't use your phone and ride a bike, while other people might be at fault that ain't gonna bring you back from the dead :^)
yeah, obviously
I've updated one of my servers to 1.14.2 and just walking building new chunks brings the tps down to 13.
Aikar's Timings Viewer - View Timings v2 reports from Paper and Sponge
did you optimize the entire world with the startup flags?
Go to 1.14.3.
WHy are you using .2
.2 has horrible chunk problems, reports say .3 has helped
essentialsX breaks with 1.14.3
That was supposedly fixed are you using latest essX
Ok, uploading 1.14.3 and newest essX
@quasi valley do you have invite to the ess disc
thx
would i get banned on spigot if i added a feature into my plugin to allow people to download paper fast?
and it's dead since? 
That means I'm an old motherfucker

i wish they had bought 10.today so it could be howoldisminecraft1.7.10.today
minecraft should revert to 1.7.10
1.7.10 sucks change my mind
I've updated to 1.14.3. Check this out. I'm alone on the server and I've got 27k chunks loaded. http://prntscr.com/o6tpl1
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/
zamknij pizde
wat
Aikar's Timings Viewer - View Timings v2 reports from Paper and Sponge
10.today is taken
i saw
Now I have 82k chunks loaded and at 0 tps http://prntscr.com/o6tr78
from standing still
Is that really surprising lol
mfw you want to shit talk a random tp plugin for doing sync chunk loads and then its made by phoenix616
hai o/ 😂

smth smth consider using PaperLib.teleportAsync instead, it will fallback to a sync tp on spigot but provide async tp to paper users
Yesterday I took the risk of going balls to the wall and updating to 1.14.3
It runs really smooth haha
Haven't encountered a single problem
(DiscordBot) A custom Java Edition snapshot to test new combat mechanics : Minecraft - 13 comments, 50 points - jeb_, 1h ago
how the hell did I trigger a stack overflow
by being a dumbass
maybe stop being stupid
oh no I got told
1.14.3 just crashed on me again: https://pastebin.com/vA9hFyeq
async we crashed on you not 1.14.3
also that's not a crash, the server is just busy doing something
Spigot doesn't print dumps when lagging, Paper does. https://puu.sh/DKXWg/17ee65a0bc.png
Lolol
Attacks only happen when fully charged, even if you spam click
sounds like an interesting solution
Hmm
On paper these look like fun changes
Since updating to 1.14.3, what I've watched happening is chunks begin loading and continue to load until it brings the tps to 0 and the server shuts down.
Do you have some sort of plugin that is forcing chunks to load such as worldborder, and if so a very large border
I have worldborder but it shouldn't be loading chunks.
That's the entire point of worldborder
To preload chunks
(And then add a border)
How big is your border
I have several worlds. Most the border is 13k.
Alright, I'm not 100% versed on WB so I would wait for someone else's comments on the issue but any plugin loading chunks (and also not unloading them, the API did change on that iirc) will cause a chunk leak (thus a memory leak) and then your server will die
So I'ma yield to someone else
Maybe join #paper-help and ask there too
@void void WB pregenerates chunks if you run a command, but it doesn't keep them loaded (at least not intentionally)
damn regular 1.14.3 is actually catching up to my torture test, FatherWh0? https://i.tcpr.ca/1aauVf9
wait till it goes live
having this very irritating problem
when running a long 1.13 style execute command in 1.14.2 it works properly
however as soon as I put it into a command block it reacts as if I never put the command in at all
minecraft:execute at @e[tag=beamgenerator] as @s run summon minecraft:tnt_minecart ~ ~ ~ {NoGravity:1,Tags:["beammember"]}
works when running as a command in chat
can be seen here
however when running from a command block...
how the hell am I throwing a stack overflow error when saving a config file
magma do you have some stupid obj in your conf that it doesnt know how to serialize or wat
it's probably my new itemstack serializer isn't it
yes
da
lemme see your serializer
I'll let you see ur mom
fr tho
.paste
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
A sensible, modern pastebin. Share text and source code snippets with no hassle.
is it failing on ser or deser?
deser isn't currently getting called
oh k
and it does seem to ser fine
hm
I mean if it wasn't good it shouldn't show up in the config file right
o.o
What is it
it's not a ser issue it only fires when the file already exists
ah
btw if you want the whole itemstack, https://github.com/simpleauthority/detective/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/algorithmjunkie/mc/detective/serialization/ItemStack.kt https://github.com/simpleauthority/detective/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/algorithmjunkie/mc/detective/serialization/ItemMeta.kt
<3
I don't actually want the whole itemstack this is only for menu items
yeah thought so
I have a much more elaborate ser/des already in place for my custom items
pretty sure it's thousands of lines in total...
but it has custom enchants so there's that
I had a gigantic serializer for items but just said fuck it and serialized the whole damn thing using ConfigurationSerializable
yea custom enchants would change that
yeah and it also has a potions effect system
which can apply on hit or continuously
and to the player or to the entity struck by the player
starting to customize the potion effect effects too
Hi, my server is really laggy when we hit 60 players, here is the timings report
Aikar's Timings Viewer - View Timings v2 reports from Paper and Sponge
any ideas?
You have about ~3600 loaded entities which seems to be the main issue.
What can I do about this?
You probably want to kill some of those.
I already use clearlag
why is papper mc 1.14.2 closed
i can only download 1.14.3 from official website
does paper 1.14.3 support 1.14.2 plugins so i can easily replace .jar file in server folder
Yes
No 1.14.3 is a whole new game
lmao I'm stuck with 1.14.2 until optifine releases a preview jar for it
seems they found a good balance for the new combat update
yeah, really like it
more options \o/
(https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/minecraft-combat-update-snapshot.380017/ for everyone wondering)
I really hope this doesn't separate the player base even further.
its up to the players to provide CONSTRUCTIVE feedback now
everybody crying for a pvp toggle should be hanged
A pvp toggle wouldn't do anything good: 1.8 players would just complain that it isn't exactly like 1.8 and stick to 1.8 anyway.
this guy seems quite happy with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyS8TDv9vMU
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doc isn't in the pvp community
also, its so fun to here a german speak english 😂
doc has a very heavy accent
nothing for ungood :P
yeah, its not only the accent
he tries to project german saying into english
I don't think I even notice that anymore, I've heard too many people speak their own version of English.
tbh anyone in EU speaking english seems mostly fine, though if you keep going east, it gets harder to understand
even better are English trying to speak German 👀
as a german you notice it, as you have the german sayings in your mind
and its fucking hilarious 😂
I've had 5 years German and still don't understand your language, even though the government here wants us to speak German better than English.
Bonjour, j'ai un baguette.
speaking perfect minilang
electronicboy can confirm
that was intentional stef ^^
Just make your own language if the others don't work
some ppl are "interesting"
"Hey my server crashes", > attaches spigot thread with timings
"can you please attach the log?" > attaches log with spam of some stupid kit plugin, not the crash log
choco mad xDD
I mean I’d close reports from spigot with the same message or near about
He’s not wrong
Sounds fine to me tbh
they are responsible for what people do with their code tbh
just like FAWE bugs should be reported to enginehub rather than IS
just report everything to Oracle
That doesn’t seem like he’s mad
as they're responsible for java
Just frustrated
i mean, i'd be too if i had to deal with retards all day 😃
I’ll report it to intel since it’s running on their hardware
I'd be frustrated if I had to be Choco too
@heady spear what you working on these days?
I’ll be reporting all of these bugs to Benjamin Franklin because they use electricity
I'm working on my server, and my degree.
I don't really work on any public projects atm
arent you on summer break yet?
Summer semester :))
ew
I go on break the 17th on August, but I have my surgery scheduled the 27th lol
so I get 10 days off this summer :3
i'd die
it's fine tbh, I don't like not working
well granted i have work in 2 weeks and then i need to study to do my retakes
I have a retake but I'm gonna do that some other year
can't be bothered with physics lol
I miss two weeks of class because of the surgery so I'd like to get ahead in those courses
site will probably be down for 3 hours again lmao
it's Operating Systems, and Computer Systems lol, can't be that hard
i had computer systems this year
I got my semester grades last week but they haven't reported them to the admissions center yet
so I don't know if they'll be included in the admissions for the next semester, in which case??
in my course it was basically just calculations with binary and hex and so on
two complement, 7 complement, 9 complement
and whatnot
and some hardware
we have to look at some dumb C snippet and write it in assembly
Just a small truly irrlevant, but curious question..... How come Spigot cannot include Bukkit in their builds and have to use the buildtools, while paper can?
pretty sure paper doesnt either
Paperclip patches the server for you and caches that.
Paper uses binary patches though, which are faster than the patches Spigot uses.
so thats what the .cache is for 😃
Duh @worn ember
me smurt
"write a subroutine with the name dubgem in C that doubles the lowercase letters in a string. It should be written without [ and ], and without library functions" <.<
Right, but downloading it automatically, isn't that technically the same as including it?
If the package has the file buildt in, or downloads the packages as soon as you run it, wouldn't that count as the same?
The main problem was iirc, the NMS code. That one is downloaded, not included. Gray legal area, but works for the time being.
interrupts are hella weird
Cool cool, thank you. It's irrelevant, but i was curious :P
i dont see how its irrelevant?
To me...
then why'd you ask? <.<
Because i was curious how it worked out technically
then it's a pretty relevant question
Truth be told, this is only relevant for one person, and thats the original author of Bukkit that denied Spigot to include bukkit in the code
To the rest of the world, its irrelevant :P
Tbh, someone should make a repository with the NMS classes, fields and methods, as mapped by Spigot, but without any code in the methods, constructors, etc. If you need NMS running BuildTools in a CI is way too slow.
“Original author” of bukkit
It takes 10 minutes in my CI and 20 on my pc.
are you on windows or something Jebaited
^
As far as I know, then buildtools and the issues with using the code is caused by one single person at bukkit who wrote that code. And from what i read, people don't really know why he did why he did, he just did it?
I think CI is on Linux
Anyone have a datapack or plugin that reverts enchanting back to how it was in 1.14.2?
I'm on Windows though
@rancid urchin Meh
mfw mojang reverts unpopular changes and then people want it back
He didn't write all of the code. He contributed some code. It's also very clear why he did it
I don't think anyone questions why he did it tbh
From what I've heard a person wrote a bunch of Bukkit code then Mojang said "you know this is our stuff, right, since you're using NMS" and then he said, you can no longer use my code. That's what I understand from it though
Why? Pretty sure i read a statement from md_5 where he couldnt say why
there's a bunch of reviews of what happened online
The Bukkit project lead decided to cancel the Bukkit project, but then Mojang were like "no dude we own this" but no one knew mojang owned bukkit
and the bukkit community were like "well that's just rude"
Ahh right. I remember reading that
and he was like "oh but then u can't have my code bcuz license breach!!!"
and RIP bukkit
No
Mojang
Mojang did.
mojang did
Mojang big gea
if the contributors are not told that they're producing IP for a company
I would DMCA it asap, as well
Same here
IP?
But hasn't bukkit always been opensource?
intellectual property
They got the rights to Bukkit when they hired Dinnerbone and the other dude that no one cares about
ah
Bukkit is open source, yes.
grum?
rip evilseph and grum
So how can they suddenly make it propriatory code?
Dinnerbone is bae the others one r like ?
Wait, they hired dinnerbone to get rights to bukkit?
they hired 4 main bukkit devs iirc?
Bukkit distributed code with a license that isn't compatible with the Bukkit lecense
You have to tell contributors to sign something that says you can use the code they contribute. That didn't exist, so they said, "hey this is ours"
lol thats new to me
it was news to everyone at the time too lol
bukkit's GPL license always was kinda strange, I mean, they built on NMS so they couldn't really fulfill the GPL anyways (not a lawyer)
jeb just whipped it out in a random twitter statement
this conversation is not accurate
bukkit's isn't
then dinnerbone said he'd personally update bukkit
bukkit is an api
but never did
it's not built on nms code at all
bukkit was owned by mojang not because of nms, but because mojang purchased it
bukkit can totally be GPL
but no one was informed
that's what we said tho?
yes, DW, that's what city said
that's not what I read
So let me just get this straight.... The devs of bukkit didn't know they coded for Mojang, and Mojang owned the code, so the devs told Bukkit they couldn't use the code they had made anymore, and hence, screwed over Mojang and Bukkit as a whole?
anyways going to work
Anyway, Dinnerbone said he'd update Bukkit and he didn't so like fu DB
Yeah that sounds about right
basically "if bukkit goes down I'll personally do it!!! we r good guys"
meanwhile 5 years later
where the fuck is my bukkit update? 😠
i still know people that use bukkit xD
I don't think brigadier has received any updates either the last x months, seems like he does this often 😉
Bukkit hasn't been updated since, has it?
it has, but by md5
why would brig need updates
Ye, so not by Bukkit
yeah
yeah
let's throw pineapples at him
DB didn't do shit for bukkit
mmm pineapples
riot
(after that mess)
v dead
Who takin care of mah farm. I really loved that farm
well, was murdered tbh
people still use the forums tho
I still upload to DBO in 2019
But why?
well, it has good SEO
I update PlotSquared on there so that people using weird server panels get access to the plugin
I mean, what interest does Mojang have in doing anything but run the thriving community?
DBO is better than Spigot's resource section tbh.
DBO = dev.bukkit.org
I didn't for 3 years tho so lol poor those people
doesnt anyone
But Minecraft wouldnt be what it is without Bukkit
I have an interest in $$$
for that they don't need bukkit :D
It would have died a long time agoo
lol no
Nah
nah not really
There are other tools
server community would have, maybe
You can't kill an open source project like Bukkit.
minecraft would be just fine without modded java multiplayer
but minecraft as a whole? no
modding would jsut be bigger
Bukkit's GPL license is valid.
Bukkit is just the popular server community software atm
There's also bedrock multiplayer
CraftBukkit's LGPL license is/was invalid.
You seriously think minecraft would be as big without the modded community?
who plays that tho
There's also Realms laughs
without the modded server community? kinda
freddy, mods != bukkit
without mods at all? kinda
yea if bukkit wasn't a thing something else would take its place
yeah
tbh
Something else did take its place during all of that uncertainty
It's called Sponge.
It took years to develop
It rose from the ashes of Bukkit
modding is just a general term. it just refers to modification lol
Sponge is great
Yes Sponge is 100% representative of the community
like, I have no idea
everyone uses sponge
lul
but is sponge actually being used by many ppl
except for the fact that no one uses sponge
I wish more people did
Sponge is being used by every modded server.
no it's not
Besides trashy 1.7.10 ones
plenty of modded servers get by with just forge
I love Sponge, Spigot just has more plugins to offer, more people involved in Spigot
and did for years
gimme a compat layer for bukkit API & a conversion guide on how to do plugins on sponge
I don't mind Sponge, I just wouldn't release anything for Sponge atm because it'd be used by 3 people and a drunk llama
Running a modded server on Forge is like running a server on Spigot instead of Paper.
bigger market on spigot to make $$$
It's just stupid as fuck.
not really byte
You use Sponge because it offers all those extra juicy things
Including performance fixes
You kidding? sponge comes with a bunch of performance mixins
And Sponge is easier to code for. Better API, or?
It's like using Spigot when you could be using Paper.
there are things like foamfix and such though
So yes, using Forge instead of Sponge is pretty stupid.
also historically
Things sponge needs to do before I would consider using it:
Bukkit API compat
Performance like paper or better
Guide on migrating from Bukkit API to sponge
like sponge only has a 1.12 userbase
dunno which of those are there
they cant add bukkit compat lol
No shit, I just said modded servers
retardedly mutually exclusive
their system is completely different
That's 1.12.2 and 1.7.10
wiz, not quite
I wouldn't want Bukkit compat for Sponge tbh
Sponge is great
Sponge is nice
it's just deprecated.
well then I'm dumb
and we dont care about dumb ppl
Yes compatibility is stupid
well then I'll stick to paper
we should gas the people below 80IQ
slow down there hitler
Sponge isn't worthwhile considering I want my plugins to be used by more than 3 people, so I'll stick to releasing shit for Spigot exclusively
you first
this would kill everyone php
lmao
Why? You need 79 in IQ to open a door, their lifes are already miserable :P
Sponge is objectively better software with a smaller audience, but it is better nonetheless.
Ez solution, just make your plugin download paper and replace their spigot jar
pretty sure dogs can open doors and don't have 79 IQ
"objectively better"
"objectively"
byte i never thought i'd have to say this
but you're retarded
guys plz download p² to feed my ego
You've said this countless times moron.
Thats what i've heard and understand as well @acoustic pilot. It is better, in many ways, but far less people involved, hence not being used as much
that's not how "objective" works
🍿
am I too late for shitting on sponge?
I will admit Sponge lacks in some areas that are not so objective, but as an API it is hands down superior.
we appreciate your input
or is this discussion optional? 😂
@fast solstice my dude, I need more movie suggestions. I loved the last one.
Yes
digger is lame
yea, if you want to write 3 lines of code to change a single property on any object
oof
@fallen oracle O.ooo.. Following up perks is a hard one.
see, am in office and it 35C, I couldn#t think of a better joke
just write a coremod and hack the nsa
like i'm not advocating for bukkit's 🚮 api
Ikr
Sponge is great as it gives you an excuse to not release updates for years
rip mini
but objective has a very clear definition
and "sponge is objectively better" is retarded
If they're stuck on the same major minecraft version for ages then I don't need to update my shit
= yay
Yes, it is. There isn't a better API out there right now
still think global warming is a joke?
Bukkit is trash.
bukkit has become trash*
Seriously, name a better Minecraft API out there right now than Sponge API?
bukkits main issue is that it doesn't adapt
I still stand by it: Sponge's API is objectively the best right now.
command functions
@fallen oracle I would have to say "The last castle", if you havnt seen it, one of my all-time favorites
aj löv lua
see, am a simple man
I go to bstats, I look at servers (current/record), I see 879/1042, I close my case
meanwhile spigot has 81k servers
MinIDigger: Bukkit has a lot of issues. At this stage of its life, most of those issues can be traced back to one idiot.
so you're saying windows is superior to linux because more people use it?
i rest my case
@fallen oracle Don't use Netflix :P So no idea :D Plex FTW
well, 16k of those are paper
"Shutter Island" is also exceptionally good
Sponge lacks in amount of servers running it, but I'd choose its API over Bukkit any day
Not that it wasn't a steaming pile of crap before that.
Linux has more users doesn't it?
Bots dont count
Certainly Bukkit was a step up from hMod 😉
wow stefvan, almost like it's a matter of opinion
No.
DOes anyone here have salesforce ?
@wide chasm Same....
is it a series about shutter stock images?
@pulsar wigeon I didn't say Sponge is bojectively better though?
guyyyys don't exclude cuberite
concrete 👀
and i've been trying to say the whole time that that's not how the word "objective" works
clearly pocketmine is the best minecraft server impl
Yep, Sponge's API is objectively better. Everything out there right now is trash 😃
minecraft mod for minetest or bust
https://plugins.cuberite.org
look they even have an extremely cancerous plugin page
Ahh yeah it's on Netflix
@worn ember feels like you'd like that website tbh
ok what the fuck
holy fuck
no
Every Minecraft server API right now is absolute garbage compared to Sponge's API I'm able to confidently say that it's objectively better @pulsar wigeon 😃
that looks horrible lmfao
that's not objective
sponge has a good plugin website
ffs
@fallen oracle Its like perks, strong story and "message" behind it
ore is great
they even have worldedit
Objectively is the new literally wiz
theres no way a tile system is better than a regular list for this xD
Indeed
Just eat some tacos and go on with your day
I just love that it's so easy lol
give me tacos then
Awesome
You have tacos?
no get your own
@upper flicker taco's gave me the amazing power of shitposting
@worn ember is your name like a communist version of phpMyAdmin
this is such a great wbesite
FU :<
we live in a post factual world guys, everybody opinion is right
@heavy rapids yes
nice keep up the good work
It's like pissing in his cereal 😄
So what you're saying is "Struggle getting tacos, then eat them, then get on with your day" ?
He can't help but respond to it
are literally all the cuberite plugins written by the same guy tf https://github.com/NiLSPACE?tab=repositories
i think if you ever stepped on wiz his lawn he'd shoot you with a .50
nah it has https://github.com/NiLSPACE/PreciousBlocks city
🙃
city p² port when
wiz is just upset because the dude made a superior version of WorldEdit
true
whats worldedit? isn't that the old school voxel sniper?
jealous because jesse is objectively superior
city pls port p² to cuberite
^_^
😂
but also whoever decided that there should be 4 line breaks between every method needs help
what the heck
5 > 4 so clearly it's gooder
objectively, even
I understand the tabs vs spaces debate
java devs: REEE MY VERTICAL SPACE
but the 5 newlines vs non-retarded code
it's in the cuberite code style specification lol
i don't understand that.
I sort of agree..
It is much easier to read, much more convenient.
Wouldn't you say?
they will reject code that doesn't have the correct number of line breaks :))
freddy pls no
:P
·P
what cancer I have I missed
thank god irc strips newlines 😂
sponge bashing
Tbh, could just do a commit to fix missing 5 line breaks
oh sponge bashing
it's brain cancer in your last brain cell leaf
bash me daddy 💦
guys this is the specification
wiz ur brain cancer
if you're lucky, the tumor will grow more brain cells for you :^)
the tumor IS your brain cells
byte ur literally a tumor u fuking weeb
if ur lucky you'll get hit by a truck before the cancer gets you
Keep individual functions spaced out by 5 empty lines, this enhances readability and makes navigation in the source file easier.
the true crime
weeb tumors are easy to get rid of. All you need is a flamethrower and earplugs to not hear the screaming
All case statements inside a switch need an extra indent
sceams in weeb
Yes
❤
why the fuck would he start the file with 5 empty lines tho
i was reading that an was like "hmm that looks like lua" guess i was right xD
I hate that most of them have adopted 1-indexed arrays
he starts and ends the file with 5 empty lines
so
like
a single statement would require 11 lines
Because it's easier on the people with no programming background
Lua was meant to be a very high level scripting language
tbf even in mathematics you'll get debates whether you should index from 0 or 1
That's easily accessible
as long as you make it clear what you've chosen it's fine
I remember a lecture where we discussed with the prof if 0 \in \mathbb{N}
he said no
we said heresy
What's up people
Well, in reality none of you have the answer, this is all based on preferences 🤣
city's pp when he sees me
Well, how would you count to 0?
Oh wait, I already talked here
That's not counting to 0 lol
what's counting to 1 in your opinion
Let's all count in base isqrt(2) thanks
But @heady spear, with that logic.. How do you count to 1?
Every other natural number can be represented by the cardinality of a set of objects
@fast solstice In that logic how do you count?
having 0 of something doesn't make any sense
then you don't have the thing to begin with
use ur fingers, obv
I have no money makes perfect sense to me
having no money = not having money, not having 0 money
|Ø| = 0
cut off all ur fingers then you can count to 0
so there's a set with cardinality 0
@heady spear do you like imaginary numbers?
If I have no money, I have 0$ or whatever currency you want.
50
-42
meh, 0 \in \mathbb{N}.
Either way, the natural numbers are dumb. Just use a specified subset of the integers instead 😛
here it's like €550
Most countries you only get that much the first year or two after you loose your job
welfare here is over €1000
If you dont get back on your feet by then, then you get a different kind of welfare, and the sum drastically reduces
you earn more by not working than you do as a student
Swedish immigration is also VERY friendly
what's the current temperature in sweden
which is funny
It's Scandinavia i'm talking about right now :P
If you can prove basic income in Sweden, you can live there.
I'll just flex my EU and move
Citizenship isn't important for most people, residency and legal ability to work is
Residency ye, but then you don't qualify for most safety net features 😛
PhpOur; exactly, which is why the welfare reduces by roughly 70%
oof
you're basically only half a citizen
i wish it would be like that here
just marry someone
city do you want to marry me
And you'd still walk away with more benefits than in say, the US lol
sorry have already promised to marry Z
Even with only "half" citizen status
is polygamy allowed in sweden
If you're a refugee you'll get access to most monies
as a non-refugee immigrant you'll get way less
Even in Korea, foreigners have access to the national services like healthcare
Residency gives the exact same rights, except you can't vote
I'm sure it's the same way in Sweden
does NK even take refugees?
LOL
they take ||out|| refugees.
"Mind your step"
even if you make it out alive you might die a bit later
Well yeah
@wide chasm more like "mined your step" blows up
Don't let the door kick your ass on the way out
just by happenstance
City is Swedish
Yes Sweden is so dumb?
They are... Danish, with a potao shoved down their neck is way smarter
and free education
And cheap/free education 😦
fuck free education
Hm
Not cheap, free.. But it's like that in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland.. Scandinvia as a whole
fcuk speiling
I get free stuff
what's the temperature in sweden rn
wahts a speling
Finland isn't in Scandinavia you dumb fuck
anything below 30°C will get me moving
Why the fuck did you include Finland in your list of Scandinavian countries?
england is my favourite part of mainland europe
It's ~22 C here right now
You need some of our free education
its 22°C here rn
oof
oof
No, it's not, not officially, but it is considered to be by us locals :P
35°C inside rn
22 here
It's not?
that was yesterday lol
No one considers Finland to be a part of Scandinavia
Norway is a pretty crazy country, +20k more in GDP per capita than the US, whilst still having so many social services, higher taxes and a higher level of happiness among their population.
what the fuck are you on about?
Thats pure utter bullshit
no way.
Like you
...? Scandinavia is a geographic region my dude
Since when is Finland not a part of Scandinavia?
It's a nordic country, not a scandinavian country.
Since City weeb his opinion differs
Scandinavia is Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
I've been lied to
The kings of the world
U are dumb cityweebstret
Hot hot
Thanks elementary school
The Nordic countries includes Iceland and Finland
As per 2019 Happiness Report, Finland is the happiest country in the world, with Denmark, Norway, Iceland, and the Netherlands holding the next top positions.
and also all of the extra regions, like Greenland, the Faroe Islands etc
No he is not
Norway is 3rd happiest country in the world in 2019 so far
what about sealand.
I’m danish i couldn’t care less
Svalbard?
https://i.imgur.com/S5p8NTd.png only english dumbfubbs call the nordic countries "scandinavia"
Svalbard is close enough to Norway that we consider it a real part of Norway
@finite wave Realize know you where the danish one.. Which doesn't explain all the stupid comments :(
mf678 stfu
and also people who didn't ever bother to look up the differeence
germans too md678685
can we nuke russia yet?
s/difereence/difference (like me)
I blame my elementary teacher for telling me that scandinavia is nordic countries
They are
should just nuke Sweden
Yeah, but not all
you know what nevermind I cna't spelk
Scandinavia is a subset of the nordic countries
You know what I mean
Netherlands
Would explain a lot :P
help
Hm
what was that
IRC never forgets
lol
everyone: talks about geography
jan: "guys stfu why are you having DiScUsSiOnSsSs"
:P
Yes
all jan does is post edgy memes
no we don't
(no we dont)
Jan Banan
Geography is annoying
s/Geography/Jan
Jan only wants to discuss alcohol
just use google maps lul
Correction, <DiscordBot> <03Jan> Jan is annoying
Hmm
Should I pay rent or get a new monitor?
monitor
New monitor
government will prob cut u a check for rent any way
buy a monitor to pay your rent
Buy monitor and sell it for more than you purchased it for
I wish, my student financing application has been pending for over a month now
I have to do actual work for money atm
it sucks
Unacceptable
city too retarded to work 😉
which also means I'm currently not getting paid to read books about zoos
which is dumb
Yes Dark I'm sure that's it
Make ZooSquared and I'll donate money
"I have to actually work atm for money"..... lol :P
What kind of work were you doing? I forgot
But student financing. Do you actually get that money?
Isn't it called a "Student loan" ?
No?
Right, same here
Everything is free from 1st to 10th grade
After that it's more a loan
11th and 12th grade are high school, right?
Well, not free... You pay taxes the rest of your life so.
from first through 12th grade we get paid


