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marble summit
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Minecraft x Microtransactions
Pay 1 Cent to Break this Dirt

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Pay 5 Dollars to Mine this Diamond

potent warren
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That's not looking as big as before haha 😄

worn ember
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they're already doing it for all other mc versions but the java one

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and they're already selling servers too

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so

potent warren
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I still hate MS for creating a lot of unecessary intermediate files

worn ember
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pretty much microtransactions at this point

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uh

marble summit
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Also, why do i keep getting DMS from people to become a Developer for their Server Network and Put my Gamemode Teytem into it

potent warren
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hmmmm

marble summit
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Like every single fucking day 😂

worn ember
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i wish i had clients

potent warren
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Why do you think I disable PMs

marble summit
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Someone says "Hey i heard about your Teytem Gamemode, you should put it into my server network"

cosmic raft
worn ember
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@marble summit is it a paid resource?

marble summit
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What do you mean by that

worn ember
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i'll take that as a no

marble summit
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I am not planning on selling Teytem, or really making money off of it

worn ember
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why not?

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ez cash

potent warren
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open source it daddy

marble summit
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I may in the future put in some cosmetic's to the gamemode for donations

worn ember
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why not both

marble summit
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I got a server network that has slots for about 3 gamemodes on it

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And so far teytem would be the only one that is actually done

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The Skyblock Gamemode is in Open Beta

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But none of the playtesters have good ideas for things to put into it

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So it is bland Skyblock

worn ember
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i dont have the stomach to start a network up again lol

limber knotBOT
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Players almost never have any good ideas

worn ember
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true

marble summit
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I mainly am making a Network since most MC servers Either Suck, or are using a Bukkit/Spigot Resource Plugin

worn ember
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but i'd get bored of it fast @spare venture

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and stop putting effort into it

marble summit
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I am planning on putting in one new feature per week at least

worn ember
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well, no, but i'd need to spend months setting stuff up

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get a build team etc

limber knotBOT
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when the way you're making money is/feels lifeless, probably

potent warren
limber knotBOT
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a week is 2 long

marble summit
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Yeah already did @spare venture

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Skyblock is in my server network in beta mode

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I am going to do a entire re do of it after i release teytem

marble summit
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Because i am gettin fuckin tired of people bailing on me

worn ember
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hired for deportation

potent warren
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@cosmic raft That's not a british meme.

marble summit
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I had like 3 Builders

potent warren
marble summit
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And all 3 bailed

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😭

cosmic raft
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its from google

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deal with it

austere fog
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Ever since I started talking like I was a server owner/dev I've been getting a ton of DMs as well

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lol don't feel bad MO

marble summit
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One of them dissapeared and has not been online for a month

worn ember
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only people dming me are bots

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feelsbadman

marble summit
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The other two idk what they are up to

worn ember
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or questions about webdev

marble summit
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Teytem i won't be putting in a spawn, and i have to encorperate that into the story

cosmic raft
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i tried to PM you

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Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient.

marble summit
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Since it has a story to the mode

cosmic raft
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hehe

marble summit
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But the server hub has no spawn

worn ember
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dm who tho 🤔

cosmic raft
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you

marble summit
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It is literally just a floating bedrock

worn ember
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oh i have it disabled?

cosmic raft
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no I do

worn ember
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maybe thats why no one slides in my dms lmfao

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oh

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u nub

cosmic raft
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no

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do you know how many PM's I'd get

marble summit
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But once my friend who is working on the server icon is done making it i will build a replia of the icon on the hub

worn ember
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i can imagine

marble summit
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And put a nether portal thing

worn ember
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i remember waking up to 50+messages on skype back when i ran a network xD glad i dont need to deal with that anymore

marble summit
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Bleh it is so hard to design custom mobs

worn ember
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@spare venture thats literally what he said tho

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badass :p

austere fog
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What type of Mobs?

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Like mythicmobs type customization or like AI customization?

marble summit
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@austere fog Custom Mobs, NPCs, Monsters, Ect

worn ember
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@marble summit i'd take you seriously if you didnt have a weeb avatar

marble summit
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@worn ember One sec ima change it to my normal avatar, .MO from Wall-E

wide hazel
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kash

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was about to ban your ass

ancient bolt
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no

wide hazel
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then realized it was you

austere fog
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I just use MythicMobs w/ Libdisguises + Citizens, I'm too lazy to make my own at the moment

marble summit
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@austere fog I design all mobs on my own

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It has to do with the gamemodes story

austere fog
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ah

marble summit
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But the server is only going to have one plugin in it

wide hazel
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just saw a brick wall go up on my screen 😛

marble summit
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My Gamemode.

wide hazel
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figured we'd been attacked

worn ember
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@marble summit mythicmobs could be useful for you

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i think its a paid plugin tho

void void
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i dont know why but i just read that as my thick mobs

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like yes daddy

marble summit
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@worn ember The issue is not programming, it is just designing them

worn ember
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my thicc mobs

marble summit
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I have to make every single mob unique from the other

worn ember
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it helps if you can spend more time thinking rather than making it 😉

marble summit
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@worn ember Yeah

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I usually just go out to the store or something and i come up with like 5 different new mobs

austere fog
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I always split my gamemodes into different manageable plugins so my JrDevs only get access to what they need, as in My server is comprised of

RRMounts
RRSpells
RRNPCs
RRQuests
RRChat
RRCore
RRDatabase
RRProfessions

All separate plugins that depend on one another but makes it easy to manage in code base so one bug doesn't shut the entire server down and I don't have to give total access to other developers making it easy to steal.

worn ember
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i hooked into it for my last comission and its pretty well designed

marble summit
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@austere fog Yeah i don't ever pair with other developers

austere fog
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Well for what I'm shooting for I have too

marble summit
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So i won't have to worry

wide hazel
marble summit
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I am able to do a lot by myself

austere fog
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Even if I spent 24hr/day working on my gamemode, I still couldn't keep up

marble summit
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Well i can

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This gamemode Teytem i spent in programming time about a week now

austere fog
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Nice, drop me details when you release it >:D

worn ember
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@wide hazel for part of your food 👀

marble summit
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Yeah, it will come by saturday this week @austere fog

wide hazel
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if only

austere fog
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I'm developing an MMORPG in MC

marble summit
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Mine is a Semi-RPG

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Technically

limber knotBOT
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another one

marble summit
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There are things you can do

worn ember
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man i made a modded rpg once

marble summit
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But you don't have to do any of it to progress

austere fog
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Mine is full immersion, even further than Wynncraft

worn ember
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too much work xD

wide hazel
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yeah, someone's gonna need to test that 5% chance

marble summit
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There are no "Quests" in it per say

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But there are tasks you can do with NPCs to trade for special items

wide hazel
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see if it actually works

marble summit
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Like SquidKids

austere fog
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Ah

limber knotBOT
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everyone u shuld all work for my mlg meme serbur, together we can make a bigger failure!

austere fog
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See my server runs on a story line as well as multiple side quests eventually, we just released our alpha

marble summit
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You swim around the ocean with a Null Field of Wisdom (Infinite Water Breathing)

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Getting Ink Sacs

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From Fallen Squid Kids

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And Saving Squids from Guardians

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To obtain special souls

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Which you trade to multiple squidkids

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To obtain the splattershot

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Which is a custom weapon

austere fog
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Not bad, mines just classic MMORPG Runescape type style

worn ember
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@austere fog can you dm me the discord? seems interesting

marble summit
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In the nether the NPC i put in there is called the Soulkeeper

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He is a semi friendly NPC

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You can get Cheap Souls from him

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If you attack him though he reveals his true form

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And instakills you basically

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Its like a jump scare kill almost lol

marble summit
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Cause i set the tick priority for him to be really fast

marble summit
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Oh yeah he also will randomly target these

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They're called Cursed Spirits

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Anything they walk on sets on fire

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They spawn with random amounts of armor

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And deal fire damage

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50% Chance to drop a Soul of the Nether

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(Which is why the Soulkeeper will actively attempt to kill them)

worn ember
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@austere fog the site could use some work lul 😃 content on it looks nice tho

marble summit
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His cousin, the reaper is a Mini Boss

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If you kill him you obtain his scythe

austere fog
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Yeah our webdev has been out of town recently

marble summit
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Which deals Blind + Wither

austere fog
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Yeah I'm having a scythe modeled pretty soon

marble summit
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I assume your RPG is modded? or is using a Custom Resource Pack

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My gamemode is only using Paper, no Modding, and no Resource Packs

austere fog
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Custom Resource packs

marble summit
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Thought so

void void
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I have 6 domains forwarding to my gmail thru improvmx v good v good

marble summit
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My mode is pretty close to modded mc though, especially once i get land generators up

void void
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wildcard addresses too

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:3

austere fog
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Yeah I just perfected the instancing (pain in my ass)

marble summit
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Forgot to mention these

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Water Slimes

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They're slimes that only live underwater

void void
worn ember
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who knew... my 800page electronics books is good to rek giant bugs with

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hold up

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its alive

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its gone after wrting this message lmfao

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im scurred

marble summit
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@austere fog If you want to keep updated on the Server, i can send you a invite to the discord for it

austere fog
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I guess your pfp is you right now then

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Sure

marble summit
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Ok one second

austere fog
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I'll send you one to mine as well

unreal quarry
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resource pack

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resource packs are pretty powerful things

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^_^

shell vine
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that looks cool bigeyethink

void void
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Can someone send an email to literallyanything [at] algorithmjunkie.com? Just wanna make sure all is working :S

austere fog
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@wide hazel I plan on donating to the Paper project once my server is off the ground and is not costing me more than I'm making back, once things stabilize I plan on paying back a few key people who made it possible (Glare, Paper/Waterfall, etc)

merry talon
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@void void done

quartz wharf
void void
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perfect thanks

cosmic raft
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@void void done

void void
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:D

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improvmx works quite well

cosmic raft
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did you get my email

void void
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just got it :p

cosmic raft
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:3

void void
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wildcard addresses, unlimited domains, completely free

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:D

cosmic raft
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do you like the picture? :D

void void
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i love

supple plover
cosmic raft
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this looks familiar

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ancient staff from runescape

austere fog
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It's modeled after a Runescape staff I'm pretty sure

austere fog
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Yeah

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We take a large inspiration from runescape

cosmic raft
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looks like you're using Heroes kinda

austere fog
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Heroes?

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What's that?

merry talon
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why model off that

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Ancient staff is ugly

austere fog
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I'm blocking you now

cosmic raft
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this

austere fog
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Oh no, we don't use public plugins for that

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We pretty much made it all ourselves

merry talon
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staff of light is cool use that

austere fog
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1 blocked message rip

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jk I have to wait for more funds

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to funnel into models

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Kashike, yeah it has a lot of similar features but we don't use the heroes plugin, we our own custom one

woven otter
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what's this runescape stuff

wide hazel
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mm, made some bratwursts with that Bluetooth grill thermometer

austere fog
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Models for my server

wide hazel
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TIL I've been overcooking brats for a while

woven otter
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interesting

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what are you making

wide hazel
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only took like 15 mins to fully cook

austere fog
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MMORPG

woven otter
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heavily inspired from runescape?

austere fog
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I'd take "heavily" with a grain of salt

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but yes we are inspired from runescape

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Our goal isn't to be a solo player rpg like Wynncraft, but enforce party and guild dungeons, fighting, and chatting.

woven otter
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well okay. since I saw ancient staff are you planning to add ancient magicks

cosmic raft
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yeah just reminded me of the scoreboard stuff i wrote for heroes

austere fog
cosmic raft
austere fog
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We have our own Artifact and Rune system based on magics

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Ah

woven otter
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is it public yet

austere fog
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We just released public alpha

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a couple days ago

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fixing a lot of the bugs from that

woven otter
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oh cool.

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server version?

austere fog
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1.13.2

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but Waterfall supports 1.8 - 1.14 correct?

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if so then 1.8 to 1.14

woven otter
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yeah but can't really join the server without protocol hacks

austere fog
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Ah well I used a modified ProtocolSupport

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along with BungeeGuard

wide hazel
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2FA+?

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😉

austere fog
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Thought about it

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was a lot of work

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for what we wanted

wide hazel
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fair, you do have to download a 2FA app

austere fog
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Now

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if you made a Xenforo plugin

wide hazel
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more secure than AuthMe or any other plugin though

austere fog
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that allowed them to 2FA

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with their web account

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I'd be interested

wide hazel
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ehhhhhhh

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out of scope

austere fog
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I'm still shook I have to pay $35 for MineSync

wide hazel
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I dunno what MineSync is

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but $35 is waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too much

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for anything

austere fog
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MineSync brings the gap between your Minecraft server and your XenForo forum closer, by integrating both very closely. With MineSync, you can have your players link their accounts together, sync ranks, show usernames, UUIDs and groups on posts and profiles as well as an extendible API to sync more data to your XenForo forum with ease.
golden gust
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Some xenforo plugin to sync your mc account

wide hazel
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jesus fucking christ

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that's it?

austere fog
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Yeah

wide hazel
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that's all it does?

golden gust
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Tbh, I can understand it for xenforo

wide hazel
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do they not have an API or something?

austere fog
void void
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No need to unsubscribe, I'm so fucking ready

austere fog
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check that out egg

golden gust
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You have to pay for a license which is $160 a year iirc

wide hazel
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for Xenforo?

bright ermine
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Why pay for it xD when you can get it for free

golden gust
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Yup

bright ermine
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jk

wide hazel
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alright, do they have developer docs or something?

austere fog
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Trust me

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I tried this avenue

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I quickly learned

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$35 was far better

wide hazel
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ehhhh

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none of that sits well with me

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but fine

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good lord I hope that plugin never breaks, ever

austere fog
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but yes all it does is link minecraft account

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    Players can link their Minecraft account on your server to your XenForo forum
    Players can show off their groups on your XenForo forum
    You can choose to sync your ranks from your server to your XenForo forum, allowing users to select a display group, or administrators to link an in-game rank to a forum rank and hence allow extra permissions on the forums.
    Players can register via your server (using the /register command). This will link them to your forum, with their Minecraft account pre-linked, for them to complete registration by adding their details.
    Simple and minimalistic, made for easy use
    Players can have a block on their profiles and on messages showing their avatar, username and group
    Players can have their avatar on XF be their Minecraft avatar
    Language file system to be able to customise messages sent by the add-on
    Configure and style MineSync to fit your community using in depth options, permissions settings and template/style properties
    Focused on performance and load optimisation. Ideal for high player servers!
void void
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You pay XF once, but if you want support or upgrades then you have to renew

austere fog
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^

void void
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However, if you don't wanna upgrade, then ur gud

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One time payment

bright ermine
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[20:17:57 WARN]: [/:54836|ABOODE_56] -> UpstreamBridge - NativeIoException: syscall:read(..) failed: Connection reset by peer
[20:17:57 INFO]: [ABOODE_56] disconnected with: NativeIoException : syscall:read(..) failed: Connection reset by peer @ io.netty.channel.unix.FileDescriptor:-1```
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What does this mean?

void void
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Not sure about security updates tho

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Imo they should be free

austere fog
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Yeah

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security updates are free

void void
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then ur gud

austere fog
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oh and the $35 minesync

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is only for 6 months of support and upgrades

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anything after that

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you have to buy a new license to get support/upgrades

wide hazel
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rip.

void void
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XF is a highly for-profit community, so personally I don't use it

wide hazel
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allllllllllll of that is BS

void void
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However, I know people who do and I help them maintain it

austere fog
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Well I didn't really have time to mess with PHP Bulletin

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and again

void void
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Discourse is a GREAT software, + free.

austere fog
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my host offered to set up xenforo for free

acoustic pilot
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If it was so scummy, and so profitable, someone else would've come along with a $20 sync addon lol

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Yet, I'm not seeing it

austere fog
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because most servers like me

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dish out the $35

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theres no heavy demand

acoustic pilot
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Oh look, the magic word

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Demand.

austere fog
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because $35 for that plugin is a killer price

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for the functionality it has

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If I went and hired another Xenforo developer to make it, I'd dish out over $100 easy

acoustic pilot
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Sure, I can understand wanting to pay $35 (which, btw is a laughably inconsequential amount of money that you're all getting worked up over, for something someone probably poured weeks into making)

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It has a lot of features and works out of the box, no hassle

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Ignore the other retards 😉

upper flicker
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$$$ vs time is a super common consideration in real business (ie just about every level beyond friends MC servers)

austere fog
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trust me I tried to hire a xenforo dev to link my gmod website to my teamspeak bot to my server software on the servers, dude said $290 minimum

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plus $30/hr after 7 days

cosmic raft
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rude

acoustic pilot
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Yeah that's totally normal @austere fog most developers charge by the hour

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And $30/hr is pretty standard

upper flicker
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tbh I dont feel particularly great about a lot of stuff like that

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but I dont think its wrong by any measure

austere fog
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well im definitely not gonna pay $300 have him "work" on it for 7 days then pay him by the hour

upper flicker
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I watch enterprise contracts go by like that everyday in "real" stuff

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time vs money

austere fog
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When I say by the hour

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I mean like

acoustic pilot
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Yeah, the addon option makes sense, it's already built

austere fog
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I'd be paying him to sleep as well

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so if he doesnt get it done in 7 days

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if it takes 8 days

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I owe him $300 + ($30 * 24)

acoustic pilot
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You technically only pay for the hours he works

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It's how it works in the real world.

upper flicker
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well and that guy may just not want to do that so he gives you some high number or weird term

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Ive done that

acoustic pilot
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That too, yeah

upper flicker
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I know a lot of people who do that

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and sometimes people still pay

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other times you go find the next guy

austere fog
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I mean he said that's his standard, because he did that to another gmod network that actually paid

upper flicker
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on the one hand, eh

austere fog
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I had already interviewed like 17 people

upper flicker
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on the other, if thats what he can do, more power to him

austere fog
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i was ready to quit

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xD

upper flicker
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always fun to be on both sides xD

acoustic pilot
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Sounds like a reasonable offer then if you had 16 other people reject you

austere fog
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Xenforo devs are greedy af

acoustic pilot
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Like I said though, $30/hr is a very common rate.

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And that's not a greedy number at all.

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There are people, developers, whose time is worth more than $100/hr

austere fog
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Yeah I know that

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but when I finally found someone to do it

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it was a 15 year old kid who did it in 3 days and only wanted $200

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Where the lowest time window I got before was 2 weeks

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or 1 week if I "bought priority"

acoustic pilot
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Sure, but can you not see or understand the difference?

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If you can't, then I'm not sure this is worth explaining lol

austere fog
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I understand the difference, trust me I've been in server management for years, just ranting at this point lmao I'll be quiet

acoustic pilot
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Cool, then I'll leave you with: You get what you pay for.

austere fog
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Very true words to live by

void void
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At least you understand that

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Had some absolute bottom of the barrel dumbass in here like 2 weeks ago wanting 3 hour SLA support ticket response times and was paying something like only $4 per month

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No matter how we phrased "you get what you pay for" it just didn't stick.

acoustic pilot
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$3.50 😃

void void
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Yep.

acoustic pilot
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It would've been cheaper for the host to simply kicked him off 😄

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Than dealing with his whining

austere fog
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Im honestly just triggered that I cant get a job with my knowledge, been programmimg for arguably 10 years but because i dont have a degree i don't get the time of day, and im not very good about open source projects

void void
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And not to mention their support was actually at like a 24 hour SLA which is MORE THAN REASONABLE for $3.50

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-.-

acoustic pilot
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since the tech support guys who read his tickets probably are paid more by the hour than the cost of the dude's server

void void
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Same Kiss. However, I'm leaving USA a-fucking-sap. In Philippines, you ain't getting a job PERIOD without a degree, unless you're planning to work at a shop, fast food, etc etc.

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So, I'm now studying again

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Gonna get that mf fucking piece of paper

acoustic pilot
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If you're white, you could move to Korea and get a teaching job! lolol

void void
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Tbh I might be able to get one in PH...but meh

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Not my niche

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By a long shot

acoustic pilot
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There's probably a "white people" job market across all of Asia

void void
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True lol

acoustic pilot
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English teaching is a big one in Korea

void void
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Japan too afaik

acoustic pilot
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No matter how good you are, if you don't look white, you're not as desirable a candidate

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Because the point is to sell it to the middle/upper class Korean parents that their kids are being taught by a white guy

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So that's how they feel reassured that they're being taught by the best English speakers

unreal quarry
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thats so racist

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:3

acoustic pilot
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Definitely lol

upper flicker
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gotta teach them not to put us in all the words

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resist

bright ermine
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How do you fix this?

acoustic pilot
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But the teaching jobs are pretty sweet because they pay for your housing too

void void
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Yeah, correct. That's one thing I hate but I try to make up for it by immersing myself in the culture as much as possible...They do seem to appreciate it. I've seen white tourists act like absolute fucking savages (not in the modern definition of the word). I'm talking littering on the beaches (they had to CLOSE THE BEACHES DOWN FOR THIS), demanding English (in a foreign country, please), and complaining about the culture and food loudly. It's SO fucking rude. Like I just don't get why you would travel somewhere and not be ready to embrace the culture head on :\

bright ermine
#

I am using waterfall and I get an issue trying to join a forced host and says packet size

acoustic pilot
#

It's probably worse in Philippines because everyone there basically speaks English right? So they understand you and just think you're an asshole

#

They just choose to speak Tagalog or whatever dialect

golden gust
#

That generally means that something either mangled with a packet or there is something wrong with the server itself causing the issue, e.g. a chunk too full

bright ermine
#

could I increase the packet size?

void void
#

Yeah, I mean I guess it sort of confuses the tourists because they actually speak Taglish on the streets

cosmic raft
#

Wan is known for directing the horror film Saw (2004) and creating Billy the Puppet. He also directed Dead Silence and Death Sentence (both 2007), Insidious (2010), The Conjuring and Insidious: Chapter 2 (both 2013), Furious 7 (2015), The Conjuring 2 (2016) and Aquaman (2018).

void void
#

And there is no standard for that

cosmic raft
#

interesting movies

void void
#

It's just whatever comes out your mouth first

#

Whether it be the Tagalog word or the English word

acoustic pilot
#

lol it's the same for any bilingual community

#

The two languages just eventually get merged and you don't know which is coming out first

golden gust
#

No, the protocol limit is established by both the server and the client

void void
#

So you have to understand both to really know what's going on. Maybe not full on understand Tagalog but if you know a romance language and english (namely Spanish, some Italian) then you can piece together what's going on sometimes.

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Other times, not at all

acoustic pilot
#

Used to be the same for me with Korean/English with my friends.

cosmic raft
#

yikes

acoustic pilot
#

When I was living in Guam, my friend was half flip, whenever I'd visit his house, his mom (Filipino) would always be on the phone and was speaking in some weird dialect completely unlike Tagalog lol. All day every day

void void
#

is that a big brother :3

#

Yeah, it's pretty wild. Jump across the pond to Cebu from Manila and you cannot understand Cebuano if you haven't previously looked at it

#

It sounds like Tagalog, sort of feels like it

#

But no

#

Totally different

acoustic pilot
#

Yeah pretty wild how it can vary so much from island or region

#

Philippines has like hundreds of islands right

void void
#

Yea and hundreds of dialects

acoustic pilot
#

THOUSANDS of actual islands

#

so probably yeah hundreds of dialects

void void
#

somewhere on the level of 170 languages

limber knotBOT
#

Does anything have the power to overrule a gamerule?

#

We have a gamerule to disable tile drops but they're still happening.

tropic flame
#

Lmao I wish that here in Portugal I could just do some sort of "portuglish" and people would understand

upper flicker
#

Plugins can re-add or ignore them in their own code

tropic flame
#

I'd the the best speaker ever

limber knotBOT
#

Do they just have to register the event to re-add them?

upper flicker
#

Not necessarily

#

Depends on what behavior

golden gust
#

No, it would be more along the lines of ignoring the concept of the gamerules

void void
#

It's actually pretty weird in Tagalog. If you're counting small numbers, you typically use the Tagalog numbers. If you're doing prices, English (sometimes Tagalog, but rare). If you're telling time, Spanish.

golden gust
#

(or, intentionally changing them for ex) Gamerules are also per-world

void void
#

No shit :3

upper flicker
#

Like if a plugin is manually forcing an item drop, they aren’t going to check and the server won’t know any better

#

But if they’re modifying an event list, the server may still catch it

#

It just depends

tropic flame
#

Lmao

#

I feel I can't do programming talk in portuguese

#

Maybe I just read too much about it in English

#

But like how am I supposed to translate something like "cast"

limber knotBOT
#

I assume the plugin may be overwriting the gamerule setting in that case?

acoustic pilot
#

A lot of it uses English vocabulary any way, tho that probably varies from country

austere fog
#

@tropic flame

#

Trust google :^)

golden gust
#

Find tutorials in your native language with the relevant terminology?

tropic flame
#

@austere fog that's the adjective cast, not the verb to cast... And even then im sure it's not fundido

void void
#

So like, the reason for prices makes sense bc a common price may be like 1,525 pesos. That's "Isang libo't limang daan at dalawampu't limang piso". But that's simplified (in pronunciation) by "One thousand five hundred twenty five pesos"

tropic flame
#

Fundido is like, when you fuse copper with tin, y'know what I mean?

void void
#

Bad example tho, bc those are the same length lol

tropic flame
#

electroniccat, I guess that's the way to do it

austere fog
void void
#

I think in general programming talk is highly anglicized which I've always found interesting. But then again maybe I just haven't experienced the opposite

tropic flame
#

I guess lemme see some Java tutorial in portuguese

void void
#

Yeah fair nvm

austere fog
#

Anyone here good with swift?

tropic flame
#

Apparently cast in portuguese remains "cast" or "casting" in programming talk

#

Although they translate boolean to "booleano"

void void
#

kek

tropic flame
#

So I guess 🤷

merry talon
#

I always cringe when seeing non english code

#

maybe that's me being racist

vestal jasper
#

I cringe a little but too but I understand why it happens

cosmic raft
#

I only get annoyed if I'm trying to debug something and there's comments right above the broken code

#

and i have to translate it

void void
#

Then it translates to "fix this broken fucking shit"

merry talon
#
// Isso nunca deveria acontecer
#

:>

vestal jasper
#

my computer is one chrome tab away from dying rn

#

I like it

acoustic pilot
merry talon
#

lol

limber knotBOT
#

Z750 I have disabled all plugins and I am still getting item drops.

upper flicker
#

We don’t make changes to vanilla game rules

cosmic raft
#

@acoustic pilot lots of projects do things like that

acoustic pilot
#

sure, I'm just triggering Sweepy

limber knotBOT
#

Just in case I am not getting everything straight here, floating items on the ground are tiles and doTileDrops, if set to false, should not allow dropped items correct?

cosmic raft
#

good example here

golden gust
#

doTileDrops will only affect drops from tile entities

limber knotBOT
#

Does it not affect drops from players?

golden gust
#

No

upper flicker
#

Players are not tiles

golden gust
#

For that you'd want a plugin, if you're using worldguard it has a region flag for it

merry talon
#

you mean to not drop player items? keepInventory will do that

#

unless you want them to lose stuff too

worn ember
#

gonchung

acoustic pilot
#

Looks grammatically incorrect, probably missing a word

austere fog
#

Yeah

#

I'm not great at it

acoustic pilot
#

This code can <something>, or it can also not run.

#

Something like that.

austere fog
#

Yeah

#

lets not

#

do that

#

I had to rewrite an entire plugin one time

#

from 1.8 to 1.14

#

it was fully in brazilian

#

all the way down to the variable names

muted niche
#

@acoustic pilot got time for a test?

acoustic pilot
#

I can give it a go but just so you know I don't have a public server lol

muted niche
#

no need, just local 😃

acoustic pilot
#

cool 😃

#

I have a couple different environments I could try then

muted niche
#

k give me a moment, building new jar from my latest changes

acoustic pilot
#

Cool

muted niche
#

got restore claim working on all versions except 1.14

#

need to investigate how its handled in 1.14

limber knotBOT
#

I just changed my plugin to cancel the drop events. It wasn't doing that properly.

tropic flame
acoustic pilot
#

I'd be interested to give it a go in 1.8.8 and 1.12.2 mainly

worn ember
#

StOp SUPporTiNG oLd vERsIoNS

acoustic pilot
#

blood gonna be milking that 1.8.8 money 😄

tropic flame
#

Or support them yourself*

muted niche
#

hehe 1.8.8/1.12.2/1.13.2/1.14.2

#

identical features

#

same API too

acoustic pilot
#

There's a surprising number of 1.8.8 SMP servers out there still, the networks I work for, for example

#

Pretty much any network that forks their own Spigot is locked into that one version (as they often don't use patches)

muted niche
#

ah

tropic flame
#

@austere fog "Brazilian" doesn't exist as a language, they speak portuguese 😄

#

annoying mode on

pulsar wigeon
#

it's...not portugal portuguese tho

#

it's brazilian portuguese

tropic flame
#

Yes, but it's not a different language

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, they might have just been referring to the dialect or w/e as "brazilian"

tropic flame
#

Well, fair enough

pulsar wigeon
#

unless they explicitly said it was a separate language

tropic flame
#

Meh idk I don't mind it, just said that because yes

#

I should be sleeping rn tbh

acoustic pilot
#

also nobody knows what/where Portugal is compared to Brazil 😄

#

Brazil is simply a bigger world player

worn ember
#

3rd world countries for all i'm concerned

austere fog
#

Well yeah, I meant the dialect I understood that they speak Portuguese, just easier to type "brazilian"

#

takes less brain cells

worn ember
#

portugeese

austere fog
#

which im severely lacking at the minute

worn ember
#

portugoose

austere fog
#

portugeese

muted niche
#

@acoustic pilot add me to friends

austere fog
#

portchugeese

muted niche
#

so i can DM

worn ember
#

im not your friend pal

acoustic pilot
#

People in portugal are better off than people in Brazil, though. Even though Brazil has a much larger economy, Portugal's GDP per capita is twice of Brazil's 😄

#

done blood

tropic flame
#

Yeah and Portugal has much less corruption in general compared to Brazil

austere fog
#

.optimize

limber knotBOT
worn ember
#

Lol... Reasoning is hard

void void
ancient bolt
#

idk what would be a smart way to format all that data, will worry about that later

drowsy vault
fallen oracle
#

Sup people.

worn ember
#

Instagram really has the brightest minds

static badge
#

wow brailline

worn ember
#

I also love the random captialized words

ancient bolt
#

ATM's

#

ATM's what?

peak dirge
#

English native language is not mine.

#

😛

#

jkjk

worn ember
#

Yes. Me not aswel

fallen oracle
#

Smh

upper flicker
#

jaja

fallen oracle
#

Actually in America we use h

#

Jhjh

#

Apparently there's no way in iPad to mark a server all messages read.

upper flicker
#

I didn’t even know you could do that on desktop

void void
#

right click mark read :')

#

magical

#

(not sarc)

#

.isup

#

do we have that

#

nvm ill just use the site

upper flicker
#

The bot changed on irc side

#

Think it exists but it’s different

#

.mo

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) ****MJ|Account: **✔ **MC|Website: **✔ **MJ|Session: **✔ **api.mojang.com: **✔ **MJ|AuthServer: **✔ **MC|Session: **✔ **MC|Textures: **✔ **mojang.com:

void void
#

oh ok

static badge
#

lax's bot kappa

marble summit
#

Who said my name

void void
#

go back to sleep you drunkard

marble summit
#

@void void I dont drink

#

I am 15

void void
#

then start, and then go to bed

ancient bolt
#

aren't we all

marble summit
#

I can't go to bed

#

Until i finish the next 3 Updates to my Gamemode

void void
#

if you don't go to bed, i'll make bed come to you

marble summit
#

Cause i am attempting to make stuff for future updates in my gamemode

void void
#

with 🤜🏿 and 🤛🏿

marble summit
#

I have german shepard

#

And she will eat you

void void
#

i'll make him go to bed too, but with treats

marble summit
#

And two golden retrievers

void void
#

she

#

ill make them all go to bed with treats

#

cat treats

marble summit
#

And one of the golden retrievers are fat

void void
#

they can't resist

limber knotBOT
#

im from canada, you know what we do with dogs here?

void void
#

do you make them pull your sled to school

marble summit
#

You fuck them

#

Because you are all furries

void void
#

when your polar bear hibernates

limber knotBOT
#

yes

#

your dog doesnt stand a chance

fallen oracle
#

Oh my

limber knotBOT
#

daily reminder, if you dont shop at costco you are getting cucked

void void
#

can yall imagine owning a pet that hibernates and you legit dont see it for 6 months

#

and ur just like "boi pls"

#

when they wake up you have the annual feast for your pet

#

food laid out fucking everywheere

#

it might be kinda cute tbh

static badge
#

retarded

void void
#

it would be kinda wholesome

ancient bolt
#

after only a couple generations animals would likely stop hibernating if they were kept as pets

#

animals hibernate due to climate and survival needs, in human care those factors wouldn't exist

static badge
#

is that fact kappa

void void
#

ill make their climate so horrible they have to hibernate

#

then reward them with a feast

#

chaotic good

static badge
#

chaotic cancer

worn ember
#

Chstic ♈

ancient bolt
#

rust is so cool

void void
#

wtf...i can only select 8 messages at a time in office 365? wtf...

#

(and do anything meaningful, if i select all i can't move. only delete/mark read.)

#

jesus, whatever

#

fuck these emails

marble summit
#

I Hope @static badge Hybernates for 100 years so he can die, and go to Furry Heaven
Which is a Dogs Anus geniusidea

void void
#

gross

marble summit
#

Exactly

void void
#

No

ancient bolt
#

you tried

void void
#

You're gross for even conjuring that up in your mind

marble summit
void void
#

Spotted is gross by proven theory

#

So, no need

static badge
#

mfw

marble summit
#

I am just stating a fact

#

That furries want to fuck our dogs

acoustic pilot
#

Some times you swing and ya miss

#

Gotta own up to it

ancient bolt
#

yeah you should just put it down man

marble summit
wide hazel
#

there we go

#

that feels better

marble summit
#

What is that

limber knotBOT
#

hey simple, did you know that 1 hour of gym a day reduces your chance of dying by A LOT by the time you are 60 - 70?

wide hazel
#

plugin

#

imagine a server with zero vanilla enchants

#

hell.

limber knotBOT
#

whenever im here you are active chatting

void void
#

Yeah I don't get why you seem to think I don't go to the gym or perform physical activity

ancient bolt
#

whenever he's here so are you

marble summit
#

Do rocket boots count as a custom enchant

void void
#

Or why you try to target me

ancient bolt
#

weird how that works huh

void void
#

You're pretty retarded

limber knotBOT
#

what kind of physical activity do you partake in?

void void
#

Why the fuck does it matter?

wide hazel
#

rocket boots sounds interesting

limber knotBOT
#

im curious

acoustic pilot
#

"bro do you even lift"

wide hazel
#

I should totally add that to my list

ancient bolt
#

not being an ass also increases the length of your life too

marble summit
#

@wide hazel Yeah, you fly for however long it has power

limber knotBOT
#

its a fact that gym makes you live longer

void void
#

I'm a hiker for one. I run. I go to the gym for cardio when not hiking. I ride my bike to work/places.

#

So honestly, fuck off.

limber knotBOT
#

cant go around it my dude

#

also dropping this topic increases your chances of not being removed from this channel

wide hazel
#

might be a hair OP, would probably just do a "high jump" instead

marble summit
#

I have a version of those that do that

#

It is the current one implemented into my gamemode

wide hazel
#

oh, right CrazyEnchants

marble summit
#

I have the rocket+ boots for the future updates

wide hazel
#

good plugin

#

not quite as fun though

marble summit
#

CrazyEnchants?

limber knotBOT
#

when do you get time to hike tho?

wide hazel
#

yeah, the high jump

void void
#

Christ

limber knotBOT
#

but yeah cardio is good, way to go

marble summit
#

I like, rarely use other peoples plugins, unless it is WG/WE

void void
#

Why it's any of your business, is beyond me.

limber knotBOT
#

lets see if I can remember how to do this

#

Zoidberg kick badracoon

#

hey it worked

#

Honest to god

#

He's been taunting me for like 2 weeks

#

For no reason

#

oh

#

well if he comes back he'll get a ban

acoustic pilot
fallen oracle
#

Whelp, time to write an essay over the next 3 hours.

void void
#

Alright anyway. Happy with this gmail/improvmx setup. No paying for email necessary :)

fallen oracle
#

Do what now?

void void
#

wat

fallen oracle
#

Happy with this gmail/improvmx setup.

cosmic raft
#

That's good

void void
#

improvmx gives you mx servers & then unlimited custom domains and wildcard identities (also plain identities) and forwards it to another box

#

In this case, gmail

ancient bolt
#

because in one case I'm clearing a 1 bit to 0, and in the other case the bit is already 0

fallen oracle
#

😮

void void
#

And I can then send from gmail from any of my addresses as well

ancient bolt
#

I could just always clear the bit and not have the added complexity

fallen oracle
#

Oh that's neat.

void void
#

improvmx is 100% free, unless you pay for their premium service which places you in higher priority mx (slightly faster delivery) and puts you in their swiss datacenter

#

but I don't need it/am too broke

#

so, am happy

fallen oracle
#

Idk if I'd need improvmx

void void
#

I mean, if you don't need it then you don't. I just have a fuckload using my @algorithmjunkie address and can't pay for office365 anymore so am just using improvmx so things sent there don't get lost in the abyss

fallen oracle
#

Ahh

limber knotBOT
#

Reminder for @cosmic raft: check if @void void mailed them, and if not revert nitro booster role colour

static badge
#

LUL

void void
#

I did mailed them! :D

wide hazel
#

hell yeah!

#

works

#

wait

#

oh, yeah

#

nice

#

okay

#

beheading III is a 100% chance to behead as well, nice

cosmic raft
#

:3

fallen oracle
#

lol

random mica
thin flume
void void
#

just nuked about 6000 emails

#

and transferred the other 2000

#

most of which i'll probably nuke kek

wide hazel
void void
#

i will eat now

#

oops

#

nuked all the fuckers

#

am now 8000 emails lighter lul

fallen oracle
#

Not bad.

wide hazel
#

Finally, for your viewing pleasure

#

Good night

void void
#

was dat 4

devout flicker
fallen oracle
#

Do you guys typically folow any kind of style guide? I know Google has one.

ancient bolt
#

though it needs to be updated

void void
#

"This document serves as the complete definition of Google's coding standards"

#

Needs to be updated indeed peepoJuice

ancient bolt
#

I no longer follow the import order

#

now I prefer only 2 import sections

#
> all normal imports
>
> all static imports
void void
#

if my imports are ordered its bc the IDE ordered them for me

ancient bolt
#

I put more thought in my code than that 😉

void void
#

i dont fuck my code

ancient bolt
#

thats why it sucks

void void
#

thats my brand!

#

it sucks or your money back

ancient bolt
#

also I found a case where using a * import was fine after I had something like 200 lines of imports

#

but that comes up so rarely in practice that yeah

#

rust and go both come with rustfmt and gofmt respectively, the latter doesn't even allow configuration

#

and I only use the defaults for rustfmt

void void
#

I don't really like prettier :\

#

(or maybe I don't like JS)

#

(idk)

ancient bolt
#

basically I only use a code style if it comes with an opinionated, automated, code style tool these days

void void
#

fair enough

ancient bolt
#

I don't agree with everything rustfmt or prettier does, but they are usually fine, and I'm sacrificing that freedom for 1. unambiguity, 2. consitency, and most importantly 3. defense of code style that is completely objective

#

"We do x because that's how the formatter does it, for the sake of consistency"

#

obviously this only works for good formatters

#

but all the ones I've mentioned are quite good

void void
#

fair enough, i don't do a lot of big projects that garner attention from people who would comment on my code style

#

so idgaf

#

(besides this chat lmao)

ancient bolt
#

oh and for kotlin

#

I especially like that one because I was doing it way before they ever released those conventions in mcdev lmao

#

it's like they used my repo to design it

#

I know they didn't, but I was literally following all of them

void void
#

Yeah I followed pretty much all of that intuitively

#

I might have skimmed it once

#

Not sure

ancient bolt
#

no good formatter though

#

other than intellij which is meh

#

so I hope they make a ktfmt soon

void void
#

IJ's formatter has been pissing me off lately

fallen oracle
#

I use the default code stlye that IJ has.

ancient bolt
#

might see about integrating it into mcdev and giving it a try

void void
#

i might use that

fallen oracle
#

I like the google code style except for the spaces

#

Seems a little compact.

ancient bolt
#

yeah it sucks

#

tabs tend to work better for that, works great in go

#

but I'll still use spaces in everything unless the formatter does it for me

#

tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment is a paaaiin if the formatter doesn't do it for you

fallen oracle
#

I mean, I don't think IJs default code style is the end of the world.

void void
#

aight im going to bed, pce bois

cosmic raft
#

@ancient bolt same, re: import order.

> all normal imports
>
> all static imports
#

I used to do:

> all normal imports
>
> all java imports
>
> all javax imports
>
> all static imports
limber knotBOT
#

how can I sue the weather

#

it's cool cold and cloudy for summertime

#

I was promised global warming

acoustic pilot
#
import *
import static *

ez ^_^

limber knotBOT
#

why ping me

acoustic pilot
#

if you get pinged by something that doesn't even identically match your name, you went an extra mile to screw yourself buddy 😄

limber knotBOT
#

I wouldn't have to if people learned to spell correctly

heady spear
#

No one actually wants to ping you

weary anchor
left yacht
#

god that new raspberry pi looks so good.

merry talon
#

I dont use prettier but eslint does the job pretty well

cedar spade
#

I forgot how fast 1.8.x starts up

#

Had to spin up a 1.8.8 test environment because one of my compatibility hacks wasn't hacky enough

#

The micro HDMI ports and USB-C for power look more annoying than useful if you don't already have the right cables

left yacht
#

the type c is the right way to go around this

#

micro HDMI, those ports

#

will actually break

#

literally break

#

but the performance jump and ram increase (FINALLY)

#

has made me a happy person

merry talon
#

should be mini displayport

limber knotBOT
#

mini displayport is huge sweepy

worn ember
woven otter
#

is it

limber knotBOT
#

null, I like it

open talon
cedar spade
#

I'd appreciate type C if it wasn't just power

#

Also, they recommend a 15W power adapter?

void void
#

Im not sure what discord server he found me on but be on the look out for the owners of Potland They are using a spam bot to invite everyone in minecraft discord servers, I joined there server and I said it wasent cool to do that and i got banned

cedar spade
#

What happened to being able to run a Pi off <5W

void void
#

Ok I found which server it was coming from, its on the Luna Client discord server, just watch out incase he joins
xxx_demonic06_xxx#2393
thats one of thier bots names

void void
cosmic gorge
#

r/forbiddensnacks

limber knotBOT
#

mini dp is not that big

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its as big as usb-c, just a bit higher

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they don't recommend a 15W power adapter, they just ship one

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it will still run on 2.5A like normal

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unless you plug in 4 rgb keyboards or smth

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ah here, somebody did test it, idle, usb keyboard and mouse (nothing fancy) + gigabit ethernet = 4.4w

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while thats more than the pi 3, (1.3w less in their tests) they think its because of usb3

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they messured 7.6 keep compared to 7 on the 3b+

acoustic pilot
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Man, I hate the Factions plugin, and plugins in general that save data to disk but don't use temporary files.

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I know disk space issues are unlikely, but they can happen.

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Writing to a temp file first and then replacing is just safer, dunno why this isn't more common.

finite wave
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Well, writing to temp files pose risks too hm?

acoustic pilot
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Yes but at least you wouldn't be screwing the actual file

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Any failure would happen to the temp file

finite wave
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I see

acoustic pilot
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In cases of no free disk space

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I think this is how Minecraft already does it for world and player data

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The only corruption issues I appear to have gotten from the server is that Minecraft failed to write to tmp files, but the actual files are still intact

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But plugins like Factions which write straight to the file, they left those files in a zero-byte state.

limber knotBOT
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ideally everybody would use hibernate and paper would manage a connection pool or fallback to a proper file based system for you :D

finite wave
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I use hibernate on windows

limber knotBOT
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xD, slap Jan

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picks up a fire extinguisher and whacks Jan with it.

finite wave
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To be fair my windows is so fucked up if i punch shutdown it never shuts down unless i pull the plug

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Atleast hibernate turns it off’ish

limber knotBOT
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lol

stray nebula
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money

limber knotBOT
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yeah they just got rolled hard

crystal onyx
limber knotBOT
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they are recovering now

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The internet is fun

surreal moth
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hi someone

limber knotBOT
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still connecting for me :c

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i guess lemme try reopening discord

surreal moth
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thanks

upper flicker
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GitHub webhooks having problems I see

limber knotBOT
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beautiful

surreal moth
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congrats

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probably you hit the cloudflare down

lime fiber
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cloudflare rip

tropic flame
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alright I'm in

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i only have 2 friends online LMAO

surreal moth
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lol

heady spear
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My C course book is 41 years old...

limber knotBOT
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thats why I like my uni, I got tought java 8 and cpp14

heady spear
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They introduced Java 6 as modern java

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us having a C book from 1978 doesn't even surprise me at this point

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limber knotBOT
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you are from the US, right?

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you pay for that education, right?

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Get a refund 😂

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oh no, you from scandinavia, right?

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so the dumcord is ded

heady spear
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I'm Scandinavian, so yeah I can't complain

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I mean, for C it literally doesn't matter if the course book is 40 years old or not, it's mostly about machine code either way

tropic flame
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mikroskeem, seems to be back now

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not Discord's fault but Cloudflare's

golden gust
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Not cloudflares fault

autumn dome
fallen oracle
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Omg I missed you guys so much.

limber knotBOT
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Urgh

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I liked it better with the outage

autumn dome
fallen oracle
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Ikr

golden gust
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Wasn't cloudflares fault

fallen oracle
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One of their networks

autumn dome
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it is not cloudlfare

fallen oracle
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Not them lselves

autumn dome
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it is not their networks

golden gust
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Some network on the internet started leaking route info

autumn dome
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^

fallen oracle
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Correct

golden gust
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Leaked route info was basically incorrect for the rest of the world and boom

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Cloudflare can't really do too much about that

fallen oracle
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Ya I got an email this morning and I was like... Shit my stuff is down

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idk what route info is feelsChromosomeMan

fallen oracle
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Then I went to it and it was still online, I was like... Lit.

autumn dome
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basically when tons of routes went up (one of the cases)

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so it increased delay

fallen oracle
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At least we back.

autumn dome
frosty moon
pulsar wigeon
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what the fuck did i sleep through

fallen oracle
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Some stuff

unreal quarry
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The internet broke

fallen oracle
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Allegedly

unreal quarry
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It had to be done to prevent the singularity from leaving skynet

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Or was it to prevent it from getting into skynet...

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I'm not up to par with my references this morning ^_^

worn ember
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what else broke?

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i only noticed discord going down

autumn dome
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not only cloudlfare

worn ember
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my cloudflare was fine

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so idc what happend xD