since that as a double value will round to like 1.0
#general
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@meager perch No, I guess they have my email from somewhere else and just use the hacked server to send the emails
merry talon
..you handle incoming with mailgun?
gmail has more often false positives than negatives
wide hazel
yeah, Mailgun is my MX service
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I just use Outlook 👍
merry talon
not for transactional of course though
merry talon
then you just access over IMAP or what?
afaik office 365 is more expensive
same with g suite
merry talon
yeah O365 is like $1 more
peak dirge
Just thinking about it... I have already the basic structure for this server software laid down if I just drop in a few components from my dead MCPE server
peak dirge
Then add a drop of my Velocity stuff and it's good.
merry talon
wait I'm looking at CAD pricing
forget everything I said
gsuite is 25¢ more but you get unlimited storage and non shitty email
they probably wanted to keep using word and stuff
well its easier to share office software documents with office 365
they have their online versions
google has that too
probably just "we've always done it this way"
wide hazel
lol
merry talon
oh 
wide hazel
not sure what "selling" is going to do
unless you control my domain
and good luck with that
merry talon
people buy emails in lots of like 10k
wide hazel
meh
merry talon
ur not gonna get much
peak dirge
So, did someone say 1.7 beta server? https://github.com/astei/canyon (it's far from done!)
wide hazel
lord
peak dirge
yea, no offense but its better to just spin up a spoutcraft server at that point
not even getting the point 🤦
wide hazel
https://i.imgur.com/A3VupTH.png
HOLY SHIT
WOO
now to merge it
few changes
I pushed some bug fixes to that branch as well
fastutil-lite 3.0 is broken until they're merged
broken on Linux*
void void
phoenix616 you have the inventory api thing right
peak dirge
mind you, the biggest person to start from the ground up is do things differently... and in any event, SpoutBukkit depends on CraftBukkit, which I want to conscientiously avoid due to the whole DMCA debacle.
I'm only willing to go as far as providing a Bukkit compatibility layer
peak dirge
Find me Sponge for Beta 1.7?
peak dirge
Good luck with that one!
wide hazel
but why beta 1.7?
peak dirge
because I want to 😃
wide hazel
lol
cosmic raft
Sponge was first designed for 1.8.
vestal jasper
back in my day we had modmanager
peak dirge
lolnope
vestal jasper
I also remember at one point directly swapping out classes in the game jar
wide hazel
orrrr fork it for 1.7?
vestal jasper
beat you to the nostalgia UwU
wide hazel
holy crap I remember shoving everything into one uberjar through 7zip and hoping it'd work
peak dirge
This is beta 1.7.x @wide hazel, not "pre-release final 1.7.0"
vestal jasper
you must find that quite amusing
joke's on you I'll UwU anyway
OwO
you know what
I'll join you
peak dirge
And in any event, if I were to try to apply these changes to Sponge (no way that's happening), then the result would be so different as to be as good as a fork.
wide hazel
I should make a generic mod system for Java stuff
peak dirge
In that case, go the full nine yards and make your own API!
peak dirge
I may or may not support Spoutcraft 😉
wide hazel
before we know it, Velocity has become a server as well. lol
peak dirge
Velocity wasn't meant to be a server platform, but Canyon is, kind of.
wide hazel
we should all go work for Hytale
vestal jasper
I attempted the creation of a server in C++
Quickly realised I have no idea how the fuck networking works.
wide hazel
(to be honest, they have the best chance of anyone)
see, @vestal jasper when a mommy socket and a daddy socket love eachother very much..
vestal jasper
LOL
peak dirge
Actually, if Litecraft doesn't compile, then I'm ahead 😉
vestal jasper
Like I understand packets, I've reverse engineered game protocols.
But I can't actually make a base server impl to save my life.
peak dirge
Canyon does compile, even if it doesn't produce a full JAR.
merry talon
that's why we use netty
vestal jasper
No netty in C++
merry talon
im aware
peak dirge
Oh well
wide hazel
literally just polled a PHP script to get/update player positions and chat
that was it
merry talon
mojang made a server in PHP too 
radiant heron
Anyone wanna help me test some things
peak dirge
Doesn't matter...
wide hazel
good news is I've re-written AS3's simplistic "get a thing on the screen" design in C#
in a new framework
plus GPU support, audio library, gamepad input, etc etc
physics engine because fuck it
multiwindow support
a whut
.g swisstable hashmap
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://blog.waffles.space/2018/12/07/deep-dive-into-hashbrown/ -- The Swiss Army Knife of Hashmaps | Arrow of Code: "Dec 7, 2018 ... A while back, there was a discussion comparing the performance of using the hashbrown crate (based on Google's SwissTable ..."
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how can I contribute to Paper even though I haven't touched Java since 2014 (and I forgot most of what I knew)?
void void
@old badge very carefully
wide hazel
"Does this implementation stops on rehashing? We should stop considering seriously hash tables that stop for rehashing because they can be used only for a subset of problems, due to the latency. This is one of the main reasons I'm now in love with radix trees and trying to get rid of hash tables at every level in my code."
alright
I can't read that sentence
paragraph
I need a tl;dr on this swiss table thing
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@atomic marten I tried to read the source code but I'm just too bad at it
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) CppCon 2017: Matt Kulukundis “Designing a Fast, Efficient, Cache-friendly Hash Table, Step by Step” - length 59m 34s - 479 likes, 30 dislikes (94.1%) - 25,719 views - CppCon on 2017.10.26
wide hazel
tl;dw for that
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My first plugin ever: https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/inamecolor
Somehow got 3,565 downloads and I even forgot to include the color Yellow lol
void void
That's interesting since there probably 100 others out there.
Paypal is shiz with their Geolocation AI.
peak dirge
Looking back at this old stuff from Voxelwind. Yes, that's right, the entity is reigstering components. And entities still have a crap-ton of state. https://gyazo.com/b0a4ce6732e6663604fdac5fe3e0420b
void void
Got a FR paypal instead of a normal Paypal. And no I am not on a VPN.
Had to manually put in "/us/" in it to get to the "normal" paypal.
merry talon
that's some OVH tier i18n
tame pendant
Hey I'm sure it's a pretty small problem, but I'm trying to make a plugin and it keeps not compiling saying
ecotalk/src/main/java/org/acornmc/ecotalk/RewardPlayers.java:[10,30] non-static method getEconomy() cannot be referenced from a static context
but I'm not sure how I would fix it. https://github.com/DrBot7/Ecotalk
Any help would be appreciated
merry talon
You're trying to access that method without an instance of the object, i.e. you're trying to refrence a non static method from a static context
try replacing Ecotalk with your plugin instance here https://github.com/DrBot7/Ecotalk/blob/master/ecotalk/src/main/java/org/acornmc/ecotalk/RewardPlayers.java#L10
tame pendant
like this? Economy economy = plugin.getEconomy();
Sorry, I'm very noob at deving
Economy economy = Ecotalk.getPlugin(Ecotalk.class).getEconomy(); worked, is that what you meant?
but doing the first thing didn't work? shouldn't they do the same thing since Plugin plugin = Ecotalk.getPlugin(Ecotalk.class);?
tame pendant
doing Economy economy = plugin.getEconomy(); said cannot resolve method
but doing Economy economy = Ecotalk.getPlugin(Ecotalk.class).getEconomy() seemed to work
merry talon
I'd recommend adding some kind of getInstance method to your main class that just returns this
instead of doing it that way
your IDE might not like that for whatever reason
acoustic pilot
It's because you've assigned it to a type of Plugin and not Ecotalk
acoustic pilot
Ecotalk plugin = JavaPlugin.getPlugin(Ecotalk.class);
tame pendant
ah I see
It compiles now, but it doesn't enable, throws this error:
https://hasteb.in/qevasexe.sql still something about static
merry talon
some weird spaghetti here
void void
oh lord i didnt even see the code
merry talon
why are any of those fields static
tame pendant
which?
void void
tame pendant
void void
copypaste
merry talon
that example code is just wtf
void void
well good luck, i would look into dependency injection and how 2 use javas
merry talon
idk there's a lot wrong here
void void
😅
void void
ye not sure what was happening in that file either
pulsar wigeon
the one time that static would actually fix an issue
vestal jasper
tame pendant
i tri
naive bison
void void
😂 he makes a new AddWordcount on every single received message (async btw!) which depending on how it's even constructed will either create a new RewardPlayers with whatever is in the lists or add to them (never both lmao) 😭 And the reward players just throws money into accounts using an arbitrary plugin instance that isn't even validated and based on program flow who knows what are in those lists.
😅
naive bison
spaghetti
tame pendant
Yeah... the weirdest part is I've taken 2 java classes and I still don't know what I'm doing
void void
go deeper
merry talon
since I can't work out what this is supposed to do
might be best to start from scratch
what is the goal
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nobody ever knows what they are doing
tame pendant
Want me to try and explain how I was imagining it to work?
merry talon
I just want to know what problem you're trying to solve
tame pendant
The purpose of the plugin is to give money to ppl who talk more
sorta like rewarding ppl who make chat lively and stuff
limber knotBOT
having trouble reproducing this coord exploit https://www.reddit.com/r/2b2t/comments/bn4uk7/coordinates_exploit/ are these people autistic or does it actually work?
(qwe) Coordinates Exploit : 2b2t - 44 comments, 80 points - TheTroll2001_, 21d ago
i can only get coords of entities around me (player) before crashing the client
tame pendant
Pretty much when the server shut down, it'd count the number of words each player said and give them money proportional to how much they talked
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damn people actually sell minecraft exploits for things like that? lol
merry talon
ok, sounds like you just need a map and to increment someone's word count whenever they send a message
don't bother with lists
you don't even need much OOP
just the discord listener and a field
tame pendant
Would I also need a regular chat listener? for when a message is sent in-game
merry talon
if you want to do it for that as well as discord sure
unless discord is already bridged then you don't want that
limber knotBOT
hello?
tame pendant
hi Moor
Sweepy should I start by deleting RewardPlayers and Addwordcount or should I like completely start over?
void void
@tame pendant https://github.com/DrBot7/Ecotalk/pull/4
limber knotBOT
UwU
tame pendant
thanks simple!
void void
merry talon
and yeah those things are kind of just a mess
start with creating a map in your main class and then adding to it or incrementing it in the listener based on the player (preferably UUID)
limber knotBOT
A map
void void
why wait till server shutdown to give them the reward @tame pendant
merry talon
that too
tame pendant
That way there's a cap
void void
wat
limber knotBOT
(UwU) Dora The Explorer - The Map Song - length 2m 6s - 1,547 likes, 359 dislikes (81.2%) - 752,138 views - Amer Azmi Bin Rohazam on 2011.12.14
void void
oh ok
merry talon
you can track that in real time though
tame pendant
Umm so like if Player1 talks 10 times, and Player2 talks 5 times, Player1 gets rewarded maxMoney and Player2 would get rewarded 5/10 of maxMoney
so there's a cap AND it's proportional
limber knotBOT
You have ti I'thats all up to your design
merry talon
when you go to increment just check if their count is under the maximum
tame pendant
If I do it like that, then if there are two players both going over the cap, but one talking twice as much as the other, they'd both be rewarded the same
merry talon
right
limber knotBOT
Just cap the other at 1/2
merry talon
I'm not sure what you mean if that's not what you want then
that's kinda what a cap means
tame pendant
The method I'm trying to accomplish is by rewarding the player who talks the most a certain amount, and then everyone else is rewarded a fraction of that
limber knotBOT
set a payout, then do % rewards of the max payout per person
merry talon
oh
limber knotBOT
Don't cap the message incrementer
merry talon
yeah basically that
tame pendant
I somehow managed to push out two versions of this but it broke when I tried to add a cap https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/ecotalk.65876/updates
limber knotBOT
user.pay(user_msg_ct/top_msg_ct * top_pay)
tbh
oh ffs someone is DDOSing my server
D:
tame pendant
yeah thats sorta what I have here https://github.com/DrBot7/Ecotalk/blob/master/ecotalk/src/main/java/org/acornmc/ecotalk/RewardPlayers.java
limber knotBOT
...
peak dirge
Hmm... now that I think of it, it really could be better if I just worked with CraftBukkit beta 1.7.3
peak dirge
But I'd have to find a suitable JAR or try to build my own
peak dirge
Unfortunately... not a lot of good choices, other than to somehow try and get mc-dev to compile and make myself a franken-vanilla server.
wide hazel
welp
peak dirge
The decompile is real spotty in some places
peak dirge
My guess is good ol' ProGuard plus ancient decompilers back then...
wide hazel
quick advice: If you can, get another cable to your box with a new IP. Only you know it, only you use it for SSH in emergencies
bedtime
vestal jasper
I feel like IDEA is fighting me here and I'm not enjoying it
wide hazel
oh, also don't freak out
vestal jasper
Maven compiles the multi module project but one module is failing to properly import things while another almost completely identical module works perfectly fine
vestal jasper
Interesting
The packages are there but not the classes
i need those imports
???
why is it using 1.14 nms imports
this module literally has nothing to do with 1.14 and doesn't have 1.14 dependencies
it very much imports 1.13 not 1.14
shy nova
@peak dirge how goes work on the 1.7.3 server?
woven otter
what's ecotalk
peak dirge
trying to see if I can just use CraftBukkit as a base after all, it'll be too much work to redo it all by myself
vestal jasper
I'm retarded
void void
that thing that dude was asking about
placid thicket
Drug deal just went bad down the road from me, 20 police cars and a car through a fence wrapped around a tree. Lost control running from cops in a stolen vehicle.
void void
rip them
placid thicket
Dude just ditched everyone in the car and bolted, K9 tore him a new one. Was a fun watch
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oof
wise nymph
vestal jasper
ok the issue is confirmed idea being retarded
if I wipe idea specific files suddenly everything breaks in a completely different way
and the old problems are mostly gone
dependency-reduced-pom.xml references 1.14 dependencies in the 1.13 project
🤠
woven otter
@EventHandler
public void onEnchantClick(final PlayerInteractEvent e) {
if (e.getAction() == Action.RIGHT_CLICK_BLOCK && e.getClickedBlock().getType() == Material.ENCHANTING_TABLE) {
final ItemStack i = e.getItem();
if (Zephyrus.getItemManager().isWand(i)) {
final Block b = e.getClickedBlock();
if (b.getType() == Material.ENCHANTING_TABLE && b.getData() != 12) {
e.setCancelled(true);
b.setData((byte) 12);
}
}
}
}
Anyone knows what that b.setData((byte) 12) is supposed to do and how to update it?
peak dirge
Well, it took a lot of work, but I did it
Andrews-iMac:mc-dev andrew$ javac -sourcepath . net/minecraft/server/*.java -d classes
Note: net/minecraft/server/NetworkMasterThread.java uses or overrides a deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
Will the end result launch? Probably not, but maybe it does work...
cosmic raft
heh
vestal jasper
Well I finally got IDEA to cooperate
Multi module setup complete 🎉
And it compiles
peak dirge
@cosmic raft Oh my god. It worked.
cosmic raft
:D
peak dirge
I basically took the Bukkit mc-dev sources and cleaned up enough so that javac would compile it but grumble loudly.
Now I can do fun stuff to it. I could rip out the existing I/O layer and replace it with Netty.
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your goal is to create your own server wrapper for beta 1.7.3 from scratch?
peak dirge
That's not my goal, because we have something that does that job already. It's called CraftBukkit.
My original plan was a ground-up server, and if I couldn't get this to work, that's what I would've done. But now that I can work with honest-to-God CraftBukkit (perhaps after some tweaks to work with my franken-server JAR), it will make my life easier.
cosmic raft
big yikes
real notch code
@peak dirge rxjava is a big disappointment
still targets java 1.6
peak dirge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yep, it's Notch code, but probably better resource-wise than what Mojang puts out now.
cosmic raft
yes, but lots of bugs too :P
peak dirge
Then I guess Canyon can fix the bugs that CraftBukkit didn't 😉
cosmic raft
canyon?
peak dirge
My interim name for the project.
cosmic raft
I see
peak dirge
Whatever. If anyone's actually interested (and will do more than just shit-talk) then DM me for a Discord server where we can talk seriously about it.
merry talon
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I'm interested because from what I've seen beta 1.7.3 was the og minecraft experience but unfortunately I'm shit at java
woven otter
1.7.3? Why?
woven otter
uses 1.8.8
everyone is upset
uses 1.7.3
everyone is okay
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beta 1.7.3
peak dirge
if you're interested just DM me.
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from 2011
void void
beta 1.7 was the shit
limber knotBOT
whois wzrd
oof
Huh
I'm logged in but don't have +r?
You are wzrd...
UwU: ?
"whois wzrd"
Oh
No lmao I wanted to do /whois wzrd
to see which modes I had
Oh, I thought the DDoS attack made you go crazy
that's my secret
I'm always crazy
no longer a secret
Came out with it for pride month?
cedar spade
my bouncer died again
finite sundial
void void
@ancient bolt I can has swifty role plas?
frigid ferry
Paper has Async chunk loading right?
void void
1.13.2 yes
frigid ferry
As the performance is still very meh
void void
thank mojang
void void
frigid ferry
finite wave
merry talon
take it to dms
vestal jasper
uwu
limber knotBOT
yes?
vestal jasper
lol
limber knotBOT
Made my terminal bell go off x.x
vestal jasper
uwu sorry
limber knotBOT
No uwu'ing $500 penalty
void void
what about owo
merry talon
vestal jasper
uwu i'll stop uwuin
limber knotBOT
OwO all you want
merry talon
void void
merry talon
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) OwO What's This? - length 55s - 94,389 likes, 1,495 dislikes (98.4%) - 1,733,806 views - Dottovu on 2018.08.18
void void
DISGUSTING https://puu.sh/DA80k/f1fc7c6c85.png
that was the worst thing i've ever heard
merry talon
hahahaha that's an actual method
vestal jasper
perfectly fine on my machine
vestal jasper
Firefox doesn't even play any sound for me
merry talon
how long would it even take to say a million characters
vestal jasper
go for round 3
limber knotBOT
Just to see if I can have that error
void void
lol so polly is just like, write it down and DL a mp3
no programmatic access?
unless there is
idk
and these voices aren't even good, either
merry talon
its in the SDKs of course
and there's like 70 voices or something
the ones on the demo are only a few of them
ancient bolt
void void
Yes father
merry talon
by the demo I mean the console
void void
merry talon
yes
void void
but still, all those voices for English are there; and none of them are particularly outstanding
void void
Yeah tried that one
merry talon
"male"
void void
Terrifying
I'm assuming with that you could uniquely identify a particular mp3 file to a particular voice and content id and cache them, so that you aren't re-requesting text you've requested before
at the cost of your own disk space, then
meh
void void
fair enough
unreal quarry
@raven granite what is your moon generator licensed under? I really like it ^_^
limber knotBOT
I use b2 instead s3
merry talon
b2 is slooow
quick generation and then delivery is critical here
it's text to speech
limber knotBOT
Ah, its my backup
cosmic raft
hmm
limber knotBOT
serving I use b2 + cloudflare
cosmic raft
is there any tool that allows me to export a twitter user's images with descriptions? 
void void
im sure you could make one really quickly
cosmic raft
i don't want to make one :(
void void
oh, huh, doesn't look like there is a way with the api
you have to scrape
i know but it's disgusting
ye
owo
merry talon
void void
vestal jasper
UwU charge your phone
cosmic raft
i give it a twitter username, it downloads all the media (images, videos, etc) along with the descriptions of those basically
yes
you make something that works and i'll give you a present
cosmic raft
i don't care what the code looks like, so long as it does what it needs to
you can write it in perl for all i care
thanks
cedar spade
but lombok
gloomy sphinx
stiff yarrow
I've definitely sunk a lot of hours into a PVE private server (for just me and my friends) of Ark, in order for that game to be playable for PVE and not a grindy borefest you have to crank up the rates of so many things, some things cranked up by 6x, some things cranked up 30-60x
the games default settings are based around PVP balance and totally unfun
worn ember
yah
i remember playing for 3 weeks
got a whole stone base, a vault and some metal structures
to only be offline raided
and the rubber banding is annoying af too
void void
sharp sentinel
What do larger plugins use to keep track of translations?
I used to use one of those translation websites for CraftBook, where people can log on and submit new ones - and then it gets downloaded at build time and included
pseudo haven
quasi valley
Crowdin seems to be popular
amber gale
sharp sentinel
That's what I used to use for CB 😉
quasi valley
Why not use it again? :p
sharp sentinel
I probably will - was just seeing what the standard was atm
strange bane
What's wrong with using GitHub?
left yacht
hey don't harass people over ark @worn ember
That game nearly ruined my server because of how much it dragged me in.
but god I love the game
shame the developers are idiots
strange bane
Rsync, ken.
quasi valley
having hundreds of translations in a dozen languages becomes kind of messy and hard to find a good place to discuss them
sharp sentinel
Anyone know if CrowdIn has org accounts or if I just use my own?
finite wave
Best way to disarm someone
worn ember
ur better of not clicking that 😃
finite wave
?
heady spear
void void
ornate spindle
I now understand why not many people partake in the ways of multi threading, this shit is sketchy
heavy rapids
wdym
ornate spindle
basically working on a plugin that will have 99% of the workload outside of the main thread, but obviously some stuff will need to be read on the main thread
heavy rapids
but why is it sketchy?
ornate spindle
mainly because I need to ensure that it doesn't fuck up & send 1,000 players who are sitting in the queue to a server all at once
tropic flame
bruh @finite wave what
muted imp
stiff yarrow
@ornate spindle its always a bit confusing when I first start doing threaded stuff again since the approach is usually so much different than single thread design
ornate spindle
yeah since you need to start thinking about things that you never had to worry about in single thread design such as thread safety, is the task finished yet or if the value is even updated yet
stiff yarrow
and then sometimes I can confuse myself when thinking about what threads are touching what since its not a routine thought process
ornate spindle
I'm glad that lilypad supports async though so this makes things so much easier
do you not name your threads?
ornate spindle
and I thought that was like the first thing people did when creating threads
languid hare
wanton dune
I didn't know where this belonged, but I have 3 servers that are all of the same gamemode, each shares the same plugins, but different data and each server has a different world. Instead of downloading plugins and uploading to each server individually, is there an easier way anyone knows where I can put plugins and have them be deployed on each server?
safe tide
Can i throw my computer against the wall? In an effort to fix my YML error I went back to a version that should've worked from github and it still isnt working
limber knotBOT
@sick portal have a folder where you put updated plugins, then make a script that recursively copies them into each server folder
safe tide
Holy hell I just found my issue
heavy rapids
inb4 didn't upload changes
safe tide
No there is some hidden shit in the file that doesnt show in IJ I only saw it by looking inside the finished jar
��
discord cannot even show the characters
safe tide
what?
safe tide
how would I go about getting them out of my file
heavy rapids
disabling the saving w/ BOM in your editor
it's usually a setting near the encoding settings
safe tide
Let me see if I can find it with notepad+
heavy rapids
you should check if its the BOM, tho
if it isn't there might be something else wrong
heavy rapids
do you know the codepoints? that doesn't look like ascii
safe tide
what do you mean by codepoints
heavy rapids
the hex values those two characters have
heavy rapids
try opening the file in a hexeditor
cerulean prairie
Did PaperMc fix constant overloads from 55 to 58?
heavy rapids
and check the first two bytes
safe tide
Let me find a hexeditior on google and download it
safe tide
IT WAS THE BOM YOU'RE A LIFE SAVER
except now I just save in UTF-8 and I dont know if that is good enough for Hungarian
safe tide
I'm so glad I decided to open the jar in JDGUI and I cannot thank you enough for helping me out I was pulling my hair out trying to figure this out
heavy rapids
you're welcome^^
limber knotBOT
nice, managed to get into a private tracker :party:
crimson lodge
@slim nymph Could you maybe do a guide about large pages?
Using Large Pages
Also for Large Pages – It’s even more important to use -Xms = -Xmx! Large Pages needs to have all of the memory specified for it or you could end up without the gains. This memory will not be used by the OS anyways, so use it.
Additionally use these flags (Metaspace is Java 8 Only, don’t use it for Java7)
what about the backdoor tho
finite wave
@meager perch Spigot and piracy protection? Hmm
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@heavy rapids the owner can run commands on any server
subtle hollow
heavy rapids
don't have a spigot account ¯_(ツ)_/¯
pulsar wigeon
is that against their terms?
heavy rapids
i do hope so
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the dude who found out about it reported it, that's why they even removed the ip logging in the first place
pulsar wigeon
apparently devs are allowed to publish a lot of dumb shit tbh
heavy rapids
RTP 3000 -- NOW MORE RANDOM THAN EVER
pulsar wigeon
DRM is perfectly allowed apparently
pulsar wigeon
yea just wondering what's actually covered by the spigot terms
limber knotBOT
drm = you can disable the plugin remotely, influencing anything beyond the plugin or malicious behaviour is not allowed
and no, you can't disable the plugin if there is no internet connection...
austere ivy
@unreal quarry
Well I mean when he didn't have that shiny bald head of his, that basically looked like him haha.
pulsar wigeon
the salmon pink pants are important
subtle hollow
does anyone know if you can set the distance the fog starts to set in with blindness?
limber knotBOT
sometimes I really wish we had the actual source changelog... can't figure out how chicks drowning is supposed to be fixed in 1.14
void void
Alright, so I have normal spigot and it keeps crashing and slows down the entire system, is paperspigot or papermc good for little 1 core 2gb ram vps's?
limber knotBOT
@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
I assume you mean 1.14.2? if so then paper might be a bit more stable but probably not by much as the problems run way deeper and mojang hasn't released their fixes for them yet. for previous versions sure
finite wave
1.14.2 doesn’t really work that well on low end vps’
limber knotBOT
on anything*
oh wow, so apparently the fix for the babys drowning was just to check if their headHeight was below 0.4 and then check if they are more than 0.2 in the water rather then 0.4... that really sounds like mojang xD
it basically makes it so that babys jump twice as often in water than adult mobs xD
Is this the spigot IRC or papers's
NVM
looks at the channel name
subtle hollow
bende gij dom
limber knotBOT
I was confused because it said webchat@SpigotMC-v0tnp5.chello.nl
crimson lodge
Imran dikzak XD
subtle hollow
let op je woorden joch
crimson lodge
xD
subtle hollow
wide chasm
Fixing world problems one post at a time
austere ivy
just GET A JOB
IT'S NOT THAT HARD
50 BUCKS BOOM YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT
IS IT NOT HOW IT IS THESE DAYS!??
change. my. mind. /s
crimson lodge
BE MORE UNDERSTANDING, ITS NOT THAT HARD.
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just buy a house 4Head
crimson lodge
How can something be over 100% of a tick https://gyazo.com/c79f38dc7d26cc258cbae4f0766d1dc1
Does that mean it used part of the tick after it?
limber knotBOT
100% is 50ms - when its over 100% it takes more time than a tick should take
void void
why is everyone a webhook here? lul
Will be there in the future papermc for bedrock? It wouldn’t even need chunk generator just the APIs needs be supported
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@void void they are using IRC
feral echo
void void
is it possible to make same animations on scoreboard and tab list?
and what plugin i could use for that
crimson lodge
Alright thanks!
limber knotBOT
Ben: probably not
crimson lodge
https://gyazo.com/f5f189e3c6f165e2d0bc5e431e715962 What can i do to optimize Save Players
wanton dune
Can someone write me a bash script 😛
crimson lodge
For what?
wanton dune
Copying plugins in a directory to 3 folders, dropping the " (number)" before the .jar
and then deleting whats in the original directory
finite wave
Why
crimson lodge
I think he wants a automatic update system
No idea why you would do that if there are just 3 folders
wanton dune
I have 3 servers that are the same gamemode
So, instead of updating each server individually
I can drag and drop files into that folder
and run the script, and it updates
to 3 different directories, and then cleans up the source folder
I would also want the (x) before the .jar removed too, cleaned up as in the jars will be removed from the folder where the script is
- im lazy as shit
- lazy
Never said I wouldnt pay
acoustic pilot
I'll do it for $50/hr, minimum 1 hour billed.
wanton dune
I'll take your offer byte!
acoustic pilot
If you want to pay for a simple script, by all means. I'll take a down payment but otherwise you can fill me in on the details.
PayPal friends and family only.
void void
is it possible to make same animations on scoreboard and tab list?
and what plugin i could use for that
wanton dune
Byte, is there a possibility you could send me a friend request so I could PM you?
acoustic basin
"PayPal friends and family only" seems dodgy
void void
Isn't just funny that people say "latest" even though that's not a version?
void void
Or just "funny" the post lol.
finite wave
I think you need to up the speed allowed in boats
void void
stiff yarrow
you could update the scoreboard and tab (player list) frequently, which would be similar to an animation
@void void
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damn dawg
tropic flame
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limber knotBOT
how's everyone doing
finite wave
playing with some friends
golden gust
"With the empty gas tank, I'm going to push this car to its limits!"
limber knotBOT
MiniDigger: what .. the fuck?
finite wave
Next up "Minidigger implements WoW like phasing"
limber knotBOT
uuummm, thats what we did :D
entity stuff is already implemented
just blocks where missing
and I think I need to do tile entities seperatly, didn't test that yet
MiniDigger: what are you actually doing!?
pretty much what jan said :D
different collection of entities "see" different blocks and entities
so like, we can have one physical dungeon, and have multiple parties in it, together with individual mobs and blocks or whatever
golden gust
That for dyescape?
golden gust
Pretty sure I recall speaking to him about that months ago 😄
limber knotBOT
thats when we did entity stuff :D
I finally picked up work again and did block stuff
that's crazy
what could go wrong?
😂
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wow that is pretty fucking cool actually
limber knotBOT
thanks
just wait until this is actually playable by users 😂
How long has dyescape been a thing for?
no clue
I joined october :D
since 2016
tropic flame
there should be a built-in function for discord on each server where whenever someone sends an AMP link, it would also link the regular version of the website
placid thicket
Reddit has a bot that does that
tropic flame
MiniDigger, I use Firefox, plus uBlock seems not to like those pages that much
placid thicket
Often enough
limber knotBOT
why do you open amp pages on your desktop?
tropic flame
... because people send AMP links on discord and reddit instead of sending regular ones?
tbh it's the people's fault first but yeah
limber knotBOT
they don't even have proper styling for desktop most of the time
accelerated MOBILE pages
tropic flame
(also I'm sure even Firefox for Android doesn't support those AMP pages as much as Chrome does)
lost turtle
so
what exactly IS waterfall... im just getting into looking at switching to paper. not familiar with any of it.
limber knotBOT
waterfall is to bungee what paper is to spigot
lost turtle
aahhh okay
limber knotBOT
but the difference isn't as big iirc
lost turtle
is the paper forums the only place to find paper plugins?
limber knotBOT
fixed some issues around forge and stuff
all spigot plugins work on paper
there are plugins on spigots site that only work on paper 😂
@lost turtle What do you need specific paper API for?
lost turtle
i don't but i was just curious as to where i could find paper-specific plugins
acoustic pilot
That's the place but it's barren by comparison since most people will target Spigot, and only enable Paper-specific features if it detects it's running on Paper
So plugins that contain Paper-specific features are generally targeted to run on Spigot.
stoic cedar
finite wave
And some noobs target CraftBukkit
golden gust
In the ideal world you depend upon what you need
If you're not using paper specific API, you don't gotta depend on paper, (Not that I'm saying you shouldn't), if you're not using spigots API, you don't gotta depend on spigot
void void
TempFly claims they are "EULA" compliance that's not even true since there no commands to allocate flight times globally.
red tide
anyone got a suggestion for a good anti cheat plugin for a server with < 50 users?
golden gust
Especially for projects you release on spigot, targeting something as low as CB might be good
acoustic pilot
Ordered 2x 16GB ram sticks 20 hours ago, free one day shipping, arrives in 9 hours or less. Still can't wait, though. First world problems.
I've been using PayPal with OVH for about 4 years now, and OVHCloud is managed under the same manager interface as their other offerings
The billing system is all tied in, at least for OVH (not SYS/Kimsufi)
void void
The new Amazon's one day thing for Prime buyers now?
acoustic pilot
damn, guess they don't trust you :S
void void
Maybe they change it per region.
Did they say you had to do that??
That's probably why since your used the international account before.
acoustic pilot
Yeah I guess you could say it's new, I don't know really, but I did order from Amazon and the item did qualify for free one-day shipping.
void void
It is at least in the last 6 months.
acoustic pilot
It's rare but sometimes I do get free same day, too
Fuck pickup lol
You bring that shit to my door
void void
What they means by "same day" though? Within 12 hours? By Midnight? etc?
void void
So they got until 11:59PM?
acoustic pilot
technically yeah
void void
What if it arrive to the post office after hours though?
acoustic pilot
nothing is gonna show up as same day if you try ordering later in the day, though
void void
Say after 8PM?
acoustic pilot
one day shippign also goes away later in the day, too, i think
it entirely depends on whether amazon believes they can commit to same day/one day shipping to your address from their fulfillment centers near you
and what they show you on the website reflects that
void void
Ahh gotcha so they will make sure they can do it first.
acoustic pilot
It shows "same day" for me because they know my address and my time zone
If your bank is still hassling you about international online charges, you must really, really not use your credit/debit card at all.
It's typically been a phase for me, whenever I get a new card or something, maybe the first month or so I get frequent blocks.
Get a PayPal Debit Card
I love mine 😄
Pulls right from your balance
need a PayPal Business account though
As far as OVH would be concerned, it's just a Mastercard
No fee on PayPal Debit charges
limber knotBOT
I use Starling bank in the UK
void void
Your not playing tricks on them. A multi billion dollar operation obviously understand what KIND of mastercard was used.
limber knotBOT
super modern, no fees for anything anywhere in the world
acoustic pilot
They really wouldn't care about the exact card type, haven't encountered any business yet that does.
austere ivy
\o/
void void
Yea usually they don't care but they do probably still knows and track those for anti fraud and other purposes.
acoustic pilot
I think as far as OVH is concerned, preventing PayPal to new accounts is probably a fraud thing, and anyone with access to a PayPal Debit Card is highly unlikely to be a fraudster, since it means they have a business account and probably do business with it.
void void
Exactly but that's just a blanket prevention I sure they know how likely it's get fraudulent charges and what's kind and if it detect above a certain percentage (likely no more than 1%) their systems can probably automatically adjust the site accordingly and/or alert their billing team what's up.
golden gust
Pretty sure that there is more level of fruad check complaince on a MasterCard than PayPal cares to check on sign-up, many hosts will also be monitoring for known names of spammers which financial companies don't care about but networks do
void void
Just tell them you did it on accident and you may have to provide utility bills and all of that fun stuffs.
acoustic pilot
haven't you already done the ID verification?
yes, for me years ago when I did it (once and done) i remember it being ID verification
should check my emails
oh I must be confusing ID verification with another service, I found my validation email from 2014 and it was just utility bills like @void void said
golden gust
I verified my ID with them with a pic of my birth certificate and my college ID
void void
Just ask them lol.
So if they want gas for example just ask if they could give you a copy of that.
But they may want two different ones.
acoustic pilot
you can also ask your roommates to ask one of the utility companies to start printing your name on the bill
they can add as many names, usually, as you want
golden gust
bank invoices?
vestal jasper
I wonder what percentage of servers have more than one op
And what the average number of ops for servers is
acoustic pilot
most servers probably have at least 1, which is 1 too many, really.
vestal jasper
I am expecting only the owner of the server to be OP or to have admin permissions.
void void
I am not even op LOL.
void void
I just 0 out the perms and negate any others due to bugs and trash.
acoustic pilot
but when everything is custom coded, opless set up is much easier to manage
void void
The "latest" guy is hilarious.
woven otter
@stiff yarrow That's what happens when you refuse to add kraken
https://github.com/mcMMO-Dev/mcMMO-Classic/commit/d870a452ca37038144c471d514894fafe0ccbc03
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: Today is saturday.
stiff yarrow
Billy made kraken into a stand alone plugin for you perverts
vestal jasper
the amount of servers without billy's plugin
cosmic raft
ooh
acoustic pilot
@spare venture 1-855-684-5463 works for me https://www.ovh.com/world/support/contact-us/
cosmic raft
trying it in a second
hm
I did pip install -r requirements.txt, but ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'bs4'
is that wrong?
cosmic raft
nope
normal echo
plot twist it's a social engineering scam 😮
cosmic raft
@atomic marten able to add any logging so I can tell its still working? :P
\o/
this'll work, then I can just parse the JSON and download the media links of the ones I want later
acoustic pilot
@spare venture correct, just connect to their billing department when you call
cosmic raft
thanks \o/
acoustic pilot
seems to install fine in the official python docker image
worn ember
Rekt
acoustic pilot
hm, might just be a billing thing, though that is strange
can't remember but feels like i've gotten support on a saturday before
oh, prob just those departments then
i think tech support is 24 hours
acoustic pilot
with OVH you'll end up with someone with a varying quebecois-french accent
some times it's pretty thick
worn ember
thicc accent
cosmic raft
keep in mind it is the weekend
acoustic pilot
with PayPal it's some guy in Nebraska
cosmic raft
and tomorrow is sunday, don't expect them to be open then either
acoustic pilot
Poor Nebraskans, they have to live in Nebraska.
cosmic raft
yes, ubuntu is just dumb
everything is python2 by default - need to specify python3-pip when installing
reverse of archlinux
acoustic pilot
yeah the 2 vs 3 shit is all over the place right now haha
marble summit
Hey on SoYouStart what OS Should i choose btw
cosmic raft
whatever you want to use
acoustic pilot
Windows 95
acoustic pilot
I think Ubuntu is a good choice if you have to ask
Simply because it's the most well supported
If you have problems, you'll be able to more easily get help / find a solution.
marble summit
What ubuntu server should i use then
acoustic pilot
18.04 I think is the latest LTS?
marble summit
Ok ima see if i find it on the install panel
acoustic pilot
You should stick to LTS for sure
gloomy sphinx
yeah lts is stable
gloomy sphinx
o
acoustic pilot
so it does offer 18.04
gloomy sphinx
I would use debian over ubuntu servee
acoustic pilot
Ubuntu Server 18.04 "Bionic Beaver" LTS
marble summit
So i use debian 9.4 stretch?
acoustic pilot
For recommending to a total newbie, I'd recommend Ubuntu again, simply because it has the larger community and bigger support base
gloomy sphinx
Ubuntu is the same as debian for support
cosmic raft
server:
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic
desktop:
$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version: 1.4
Distributor ID: Arch
Description: Arch Linux
Release: rolling
Codename: n/a
;D
gloomy sphinx
I'd rather go with debian simply because it is rock solid
marble summit
Well which one is better for running a mc server
void void
this is an event I bet you all are hyped for: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc19/
gloomy sphinx
they are almost the same
acoustic pilot
They are all equally capable
gloomy sphinx
Ubuntu is based in debian
marble summit
then ima use ubuntu 18.10
acoustic pilot
Since you're new to this whole thing, the decision should be based around "what is going to be the easiest for me to get help when I need it"
you should avoid non-LTS releases for a server
18.04 is the LTS release
marble summit
What are non lts ubuntu releases
marble summit
18.10 is non lts
gloomy sphinx
why is ubuntu server based on debian testing that is weird
marble summit
Ok so i use that ver?
acoustic pilot
If you want to use Ubuntu, then that is the version you should use, yes.
acoustic pilot
Fedora came about after Mandrake failed, I think
gloomy sphinx
honestly if you use the roblox dab you should just go with fedora
marble summit
Imagine using roblox
gloomy sphinx
skip debian and ubuntu
marble summit
Once the OS is installed how do i install files into the system?
golden gust
use sftp, then you can just use your ssh credentials without having to install an ftp server
acoustic pilot
You use WinSCP or FileZilla to transfer files via SFTP.
Kind of assuming you're on Windows, might be a bad assumption
gloomy sphinx
o
marble summit
FileZilla is very cool
acoustic pilot
use whatever you like really, if FileZilla works on Mac and you like it, you can use it with your server
marble summit
That moment when i want to get a domain off of namecheap but i don't see a paypal options : (
gloomy sphinx
this will be interesting watching someone try to run mc on a server they know nothing about
marble summit
Well i've used ubuntu before, on digital ocean
To host Discord Bots and some Scripts
acoustic pilot
i've learned with far fewer resources lol
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
gloomy sphinx
oh I assumed you never used
acoustic pilot
As long as you're willing to google something you can teach your way around Ubuntu or any distro very easily.
Just ask a sane question and Google will do all the hard work lol
void void
Not when you comprised lol.
While you can google your way around some things like installing, optimizatoins, etc you really need an expert for the heavy lifting like certain migration jobs, recovering a comprised system, advanced optimizations, etc etc etc.
Why you think they get paid 80+k/year then?
acoustic pilot
being bad doesn't mean incapable