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#general
upper flicker
upper flicker
That’s just how the webhooks work
The old bot did it and I’m pretty sure the new bot will as well
void void
@upper flicker swifty role pls
upper flicker
It’s worse if your client isn’t caching the avatars (compact mode) or your connection is slow
You must appease the demonwav to get swiftly
left yacht
ok so Mana is just a different bot.
void void
yes. :L
upper flicker
Mana is the bridge between esper and spigots irc
void void
wewt
limber knotBOT
what a pleb
left yacht
brian, hush it
upper flicker
It’s fine, most of the time Mana doesn’t even get used much
shy nova
Huh
golden gust
DED/10
shy nova
tehbrian which bot are you using that it lets you set the avatar?
upper flicker
mine
worn ember
@golden gust i was just playing dota, so its only natural xD
upper flicker
The discord <-> irc bridge
upper flicker
Mana is an irc <-> irc bridge
worn ember
we stomped with 32/4 though ;n;
upper flicker
Hence it can’t do that, it has no knowledge discord even exists
upper flicker
Burn leaves for fuel
worn ember
Spottedleaf is the powerhouse of this discord
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wat
wicked crescent
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wat
austere ivy
@static badge since you're leaf, does that mean you're leaf?
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both of u are retarded
worn ember
😦
limber knotBOT
s/retarded/redarted
Correction, <DiscordBot> <12Spottedleaf> both of u are redarted
limber knotBOT
12Spottedleaf
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pineapple man
limber knotBOT
no
worn ember
leafes the room
limber knotBOT
https://i.imgur.com/yPLfALF.png much pinapl
upper flicker
blame spotted
austere ivy
You're harassment
worn ember
tinypick huehue
upper flicker
Wat
austere ivy
I made it because my sister was taking an art class and she was tasked with drawing a pineapple for practice.
worn ember
thats pretty cool
austere ivy
I was like "hey girl can I use your illustrator for 1 sec" lol.
upper flicker
leaf finally lost that last braincell he’s been holding onto all these years
worn ember
just remove tps
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z
worn ember
cant lag if you dont have ticks
austere ivy
austere ivy
On other news, I got a piano :D
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z
worn ember
we could say he's a plant
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ur retarded
austere ivy
I had a piano at home but I finally got one here \o/
upper flicker
Grats on the piano
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in fact
worn ember
aka braindead
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if I had two remaining braincells
and one of them was dying let's say
and you offered to lend me one of yours
not only would I reject that offer but I'd be surprised you'd offer your last remaining braincell
u fuking retard
austere ivy
It's not great but it's all we can find here, it's the yamaha psr-e363 if anyone cares.
worn ember
Battle of the rarts
ocean ether
worn ember
barty? More like rarty
austere ivy
Goodness this chat is so toxic. See you later folks.
upper flicker
There’s no quarantine long enough to fix this channel
static badge
you brought this upon urself
worn ember
killing it is the only option
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u opened us up to discord
u even setup all the different channels
nobody to blame
but
urself
upper flicker
You were on IRC too
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z
worn ember
so its all IRC's fault
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it was never this bad on irc
austere ivy
I'm back, just wanted to say, has anyone seen that new CoD that's coming out?
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yeah looks sick
worn ember
yeah probably cause it takes 500iq to join a IRC channel
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an irc
worn ember
a
austere ivy
Recently it's been awful but this one has "no battle pass" and "more gritty no flying stuff" which seems AMAZING. I'm skeptical that it'll have loot boxes or something, but I hope it's a step in the right direction.
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an IRC
worn ember
an leaf
austere ivy
Mhm, yeah.
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call of duty making a comeback? 
austere ivy
Dunno, only time will tell.
void void
cod, the game that never changes but i always buy
worn ember
i havent played CoD since World at War lmao
upper flicker
Leaf going to get his sniper clan back together
austere ivy
Thank goodness there was one person in Infinity Ward who was like "what if we give people what they want"
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leafclan
upper flicker
Break out his old Xbox live gamer tag and call your mom names
golden gust
Well, yea, coz suckers go out and buy it day one
austere ivy
Infinity War was.. heavily disliked.
void void
My brother used to be a self-proclaimed professional cod player. had a youtube channel for his 360 noscopes.
Gigantic cringe
austere ivy
That like to dislike ratio doesn't lie haha.
golden gust
(and then deal with unstable as shit servers every year \o/)
worn ember
@golden gust i think you mean pre-order
void void
best cods come from treyarch, fight me on it
golden gust
Well, pre-ordering is more popular now
austere ivy
@upper flicker I like your tag, that number part.
worn ember
Old activision was good
golden gust
People used to literally queue at the supermarkets
upper flicker
Those were darker times
worn ember
shooters have become very stale imo
austere ivy
Still is nice know.
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yeah it should be 2750
austere ivy
though*
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just like his actual username
upper flicker
@austere ivy maybe you should be friends with leaf
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don't give me cancer
austere ivy
It's just a reverse Z..
golden gust
Sounds like a good pairing, tbh
void void
People in my city still queue up outside the gamestop. Just to get a disk, that likely will detect steam and then download instead of even use the disk.
shy nova
ofuk
austere ivy
I'm out of here, leaf has tormented me enough in Billy's dev server.
golden gust
tbh, having disks kinda makes sense
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irc will not forget what you just pasted
shy nova
.typing
limber knotBOT
worn ember
@static badge if your bf is blowing you, does that make him a leafblower?
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bf
shy nova
@static badge huh
upper flicker
I mean even towards the end there you’d get a physical disk that’s go out and have all the actual content in a 50G download
shy nova
oh yeah how do attachments go to irc?
worn ember
:))
upper flicker
As links
limber knotBOT
<DiscordBot> <wzrd> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/584015826974277664/root.crt
shy nova
ahh
upper flicker
Which is basically all discord does
austere ivy
Well, let's see here, a root certificate eh?
shy nova
lmao
austere ivy
What happens if I double click it 👀
shy nova
dragged it into the wrong window
shy nova
that's a cert not a key
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hopefully that's not anything crucial :>
austere ivy
He*k is this:
shy nova
@static badge is a cert not a key
austere ivy
No >;c
shy nova
:<
worn ember
@austere ivy no balls
austere ivy
You first.
worn ember
now its mine xD
austere ivy
;o
austere ivy
@upper flicker I have this for you if you want it: http://i63.tinypic.com/t070ox.png
worn ember
is that made with paint 3D?
austere ivy
I made it a bit ago and never really did anything with it, I wanted to give it to someone named Z but I never knew anyone named Z :(
Nah, Hexels.
worn ember
oof
upper flicker
But muh eye
austere ivy
You don't have to USE it lol.
austere ivy
Do whatever, but consider it yours :P
upper flicker
Saved it for later
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use it as the new paper logo
upper flicker
Use a pile of dead and burning leaves as the new paper logo
worn ember
Zaper
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no balls you wont
pulsar wigeon
what mc ver does glowstone run atm
upper flicker
1.12.2 iirc
pulsar wigeon
i kinda want to see how WE runs on it
pulsar wigeon
that's normal tho
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it's we
pulsar wigeon
i mean compared to CB impls
worn ember
no its u
shy nova
welp time to restart
austere ivy
If a plugin is closed source, is forking it (decompiling it and changing it) frowned upon, or illegal?
wide chasm
Frowned upon, maybe, but you should have access to the plugin's source, since Bukkit is licensed under GPL.
austere ivy
Okay, I was just taking a peek around a plugin and noticed some odd things that can be fixed, but don't warrant an entire other plugin.
I want to be able to say "hey maybe change these things" without being demeaning or anything like that.
wide chasm
I wouldn't have a problem with that, but my plugin's open source, so...
austere ivy
Yeah I don't know. Plus it's like really mild things and people have their own preferences on how to do things, so I dunno. It would just be easier to make a fork haha,.
verbal garnet
are builds of mcmmo actually locked behind a paywall or am i just blind
void void
@austere ivy your computer will get confiscated by FBI if you try to modify others' plugins without their permission
don't even try
austere ivy
They're "locked behind a paywall" but they a-tu-l-y hav- - b-il- s-rv-r.
void void
what do you mean @verbal garnet
limber knotBOT
the planet minecraft admins will download your computer and deop you
verbal garnet
im poor
austere ivy
lol
void void
that's kinda the point, you built it yourself or you pay for support & for them to build it for you
not a secret or anything
lol
verbal garnet
yeah thats fine but its 15 bucks, i have no job atm, and i just wanna dick around in a game
austere ivy
they also have a b U I L D ----
void void
yeah, point taken brian
shy nova
lmao
limber knotBOT
does anybody know a simple plugin that can teleport entities between worlds? (before I write one myself xD)
void void
.g simple plugin teleport entities between worlds site:spigotmc.org site:dev.bukkit.org
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results found.
void void
nope
shy nova
works for me
limber knotBOT
it broke for a whole 10 seconds
I guess this one will do for what I need: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/mob-teleportation-otheranimalteleport.63497/ xD
austere ivy
phoenix616 can't you just have one person near the animal and the other person at the destination and have the animal teleported to the other person?
limber knotBOT
wat?
austere ivy
What's your goal..?
limber knotBOT
calling the entity.teleport method
woeful gorge
austere ivy
./teleport @e[type=[],name=[]] otherperson
limber knotBOT
hm, I guess that could've worked
limber knotBOT
whatever boats your float
interesting, it doesn't call either of the events that I'm trying to get... xD
austere ivy
Why do you need specifically entity.teleport()?
limber knotBOT
because I'm sure that that calls the method that I try to test xD
verbal garnet
@spare venture im not saying it isnt i just cant afford atm 😃
austere ivy
Ah okay haha.
limber knotBOT
because I think that the EntityPortalEvent is called for all teleports between worlds in 1.14, something that previously wasn't the case iirc
austere ivy
odd.. oki well I'm going to go eat breakfast
i'm gonna go
BREAK my FAST
ba dUM TSS
Okay see you folks.
limber knotBOT
ok wait, apparently it was ¯_(ツ)_/¯
warm vault
limber knotBOT
ssh into a linux server and use irssi
runs
run a couple of minecraft servers? xD
could also run bitcoin and dogecoin nodes, they use up a good chunk of memory too
(or how about all the crypto currency nodes! ;P)
just thought of a cool way of disabling overworld pigzombie farms: automatically turn pigzombies into pigs if they leave the nether xD
shy nova
Finally
only took me three hours
but I set up my PKI so https://znc.wzrd.pw uses my PKI, and my ZNC server also uses it
had to modify hexchat since it doesn't observe the windows trust store
limber knotBOT
why not just use a real certificate?
void void
^
shy nova
Wanted to learn how PKI works
stable lynx
shy nova
Are the bridge channels on the irc.spi.gt server?
weak spruce
limber knotBOT
test
shy nova
Oh nice
Woah
does it just get a user of the same name in the server and use their avatar?
limber knotBOT
finally have znc working, time to join like ten networks lol
shy nova
t
limber knotBOT
Oof my client pings me every time I send a message in discord
yes it does
(for the avatar question xD)
ah
clever
query *status
oof
vernal moth
Why would your client ping you?
The brigde bot has advanced ping protection inbuild using color codes 😂
void void
lol
limber knotBOT
Oh huh
you are correct
I thought the red chat highlight indicated a ping but ..
shy nova
wzrd test
limber knotBOT
that's green
weird color choice but ok
wzrd ping ping ping
Stop using inferior clients then 😂
And get onto the lounge hypetrain!
.g thelounge-theme-mininapse
(MiniDigger) https://github.com/MiniDigger/thelounge-theme-mininapse -- GitHub - MiniDigger/thelounge-theme-mininapse: A dark,...: "A dark, minimal theme for TheLounge IRC client. Contribute to MiniDigger/thelounge-theme-mininapse development by creating an account on GitHub."
oo
golden gust
sends simple a huuuge tub of instant
void void
you know, some instant is very good.
but what i just had
is on a new level...
of horrible..
limber knotBOT
I do enjoy setting up znc and connecting to a bunch of channels
limber knotBOT
woah holy crap
Spottedleaf: hexchat reveals quite a bit of info by default
-Spottedleaf- VERSION HexChat 2.14.2 [x64] / Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) [Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8750H CPU @ 2.20GHz (2.21GHz)]
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yeah
woeful gorge
Hi, I am wondering if PaperMC is making use of multithreading, any information for me please? 😃
golden gust
ye, u can't mek cofee u dum
void void
frik u ok
void void
is jacobs a brand or smth
worn ember
coffee i think
limber knotBOT
damn I forgot how nice IRC is
discord just feels so heavy
I mean it is so heavy
worn ember
keep a daily school shooting to keep the numbers down
left yacht
they got inspiration from a certain call of duty
with advanced fish ai
@static badge add a cryptocurrency miner to the fish AI instead ^
it'll be equally intensive
and more productive
I should probably ask, but how many fish do you have on your server
because I never saw that being an issue for us.
left yacht
./paper entity list
limber knotBOT
phoenix616: this is so convenient though
I'd like to have none but sometimes it's useful
you never know though if you missed something or not ;)
finite wave
What is timings even worth on a plain Paper server
left yacht
uh vanilla minecraft performance
shows you that villagers should be murdered
and that fish should be extinct
apparently anyway
finite wave
Let’s do it
limber knotBOT
(a good way of handling that would be to just hide the liens and add a button to toggle showing them all at once)
sly cloud
limber knotBOT
True
but I don't think one can do such advanced UI stuff in irssi so I just don't care and live with the messages xD
left yacht
given that andgk went silent I assume his computer died by fish.
the fish are currently invading his house as we speak
finite wave
Hmm
left yacht
yeah he's dead.
limber knotBOT
can someone mention my please
void void
wzrd
left yacht
wzrd
limber knotBOT
great, thanks
btw. where did your i and a go?
Using vowels are illegal where I come from
worn ember
wzrd dissapearing next
limber knotBOT
I mean we ARE on the internet here ;)
worn ember
when the popo comes to arrest him
limber knotBOT
trying to figure out if I can make a hexchat plugin that rewrites lines so that DiscordBot is integrated fully
yeah, that's one thing I still haven't done for irssi... can't belive there are no native-bridge-bot scripts/plugins
worn ember
because IRC has no competent users
runs
dapper nacelle
[18:40:28 WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 3323200ms or 66464 ticks behind
```lmaothat's a lotta ticks
worn ember
how did your server not kill itself yet
limber knotBOT
holy
dapper nacelle
my pc went on stand by
worn ember
haha
dapper nacelle
void void
worn ember
that makes more sense
My pc always comes out of sleepmode on network activity
#JustWindowsThings
left yacht
my pc never goes to sleep
dapper nacelle
I had my desktop which I had turned off randomly going on in the middle of night
so I disabled all of that
left yacht
let's all use windows on our minecraft servers
enable all of the power saving features
and let the chaos go on.
worn ember
limber knotBOT
my god the hexchat api docs are trash
had to find an obscure gist that detailed events https://gist.github.com/Zren/5946183
worn ember
lol
void void
That bad coffee is leaving me with bad stomach time
limber knotBOT
wow, server resource pack loading is actually faster on 1.14 Oo
Can I temporarily use #waterfall-dev to test this bridge message integration?
void void
i dont think anyone cares as long as you dont spam
limber knotBOT
cheers
golden gust
You can just /join a channel to create one, btw
shy nova
Cat, I need the discord bot tho
limber knotBOT
mfw I try to use 1.14.2: https://i.moep.tv/e04XIWZR.png
worn ember
is that the client?
worn ember
@finite wave its open source
void void
Don't you love it when people expect emergency services on a public forum? I don't know about you but I am pretty sure if it actually a community/business impacting instance you would be actually paying someone for "urgency".
limber knotBOT
so apparently baby chickens can't swim properly and get damaged... wow
is discord dying for anyone else or just me
worn ember
baby chickens can swim irl either
void void
Messages sometimes are deyaled right.
worn ember
well neither can chicken i think
limber knotBOT
they can
worn ember
yeah discord is failing
limber knotBOT
it's just that they swim too low
worn ember
minecraft is obviously a RL simulator
i dont know if pigs can swim 🤔
i know cows can
limber knotBOT
"Studies have shown that chickens have a natural, inborn ability to swim without even being taught how to swim. "
worn ember
fair enough, but chicks cant
limber knotBOT
phoenix616: Got the integration working perfectly on hexchat
tropic flame
wzrd, same thing
limber knotBOT
"Another important thing to remember is that chicks cannot swim. It has been found that if baby chickens are put in the waterlogged area, they immediately drown and lose their life." interesting
tropic flame
been having problems for 3 days
limber knotBOT
nice
limber knotBOT
phoenix616: https://imgur.com/a/9NtlUbB
I put d: in front of it so I know it's a discord person
pretty cool, can you tab complete their names though? xD
I can't, but even without that I still can't
doesn't seem to be a way to let me do it
hm, maybe there is an event for tab completion or something? then just store the users that have spoken before and add it to the list?
Couldn't find one D:
well I haven't used hexchat's "spi" before so I dunno xD
*api
shy nova
Using the lua interface
limber knotBOT
hm, I bet their eye height is too low or something
I'm pretty sure I saw a similar commit somewhere else
?
baby chicken drowning
oh
left yacht
what CPU is that Jan?
limber knotBOT
ah, apparently it sets the size to half of the adult size... hm, I wonder if it uses that too for the breathing check
Spottedleaf: wrote a simple DiscordBot integration for hexchat if you'd like it
marble summit
Wow thats kind of dumb lol
SoYouStart has a 24$ Setup Fee for the Server to be made within 120 seconds but they have to manually validate payments and don't have a weekend team 
verbal garnet
Ouch thats frustrating
marble summit
That pisses me off slightly
Cause you're paying 24 dollars to wait for a staff to say "ok they payed us"
Essentially
peak dirge
"Okay, they paid us" isn't enough - they also need to verify you're not committing fraud
marble summit
You can do that with a bot
peak dirge
I don't know their process, I don't care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
marble summit
And the main issue is They don't fucking have a team on the weekend to do this
peak dirge
i.e. paying with a credit card issued in Arizona and you're in Russia, that would be quite fishy
marble summit
No the only validation issues that can exist is wells fargo
Since they're dickholes
limber knotBOT
did you try calling them?
peak dirge
so they'd want to verify your identity
marble summit
Everything is valid at the moment
They even sent a text to the phone the wells fargo account is linked to
😂
So idek how the hell it can't be me
marble summit
Not really, the server has to be set up before june 7th
And when they advertise 120 seconds you'd expect for that to be the case /shrug
left yacht
OVH is really quick if you pay via PayPal
CC always results in manual verification
period.
peak dirge
Well, you maybe should've planned to order the server in advance if you didn't want to wait for verification because you paid with a credit card.
So really, the best time to order it would've been on Wednesday because it'd be ready Friday if it all checks out
limber knotBOT
just cancel it and pay again through paypal 🤔
left yacht
People in minecraft don't actually realize how strict credit card companies are
anything above a 1% ratio for chargebacks and you can be thrown onto a merchant black list
so verification is always gonna be strict on CC.
limber knotBOT
Tux: I think the issue was .MO thought it was a 120 second setup until they actually started the process
left yacht
Not their say, the banks enforce that rule.
marble summit
Yes they advertise it
They don't advertise anything else except hey the servers gonna be ready in 120 seconds after purchase
PayPal is not going to make a difference as i am still charging the card with paypal
left yacht
it makes a difference.
marble summit
And if i cancel it now wells fargo is going to be dickholes
left yacht
it actually does
marble summit
And hold the money for 3 days
left yacht
PayPal has rather relaxed rules (because not all disputes involve a CC to begin with).
marble summit
I wish my familly did not loan 100$ paypal off of me
left yacht
but yeah I can see and understand why you're frustrated with OVH.
I learned that the hard way too that CC at first results in manual verification.
they don't make it clear but I guess that would defeat the purpose of verification would it.
limber knotBOT
Hetzner was nice, they actually set the server up and I was using it before they even invoiced me
left yacht
Hetzner is the only exception to the rule afaik.
limber knotBOT
I had an issue a few days ago and called support and was instantly routed to a person in the datacenter and they just walked over to my box and fixed it
I was very .. surprised to say the least
left yacht
OVH is quick when you actually need help (like dedi failure)
anything outside of that and gl
limber knotBOT
Paper channels seem so much more active than spigot ones
void void
Alright so could an active staff of here inform me if they be verified for BAT donations within the next 90 days? As seen https://brave.com/faq/#unclaimed-funds in order to accept BAT donations from users such as myself? I would like to contribute but in order for it to "count" they would have to be veified within that time frame.
finite wave
What is the issue https://timings.aikar.co/?id=c9f46db66c0e46c98a53dc1cbfbda53a
limber knotBOT
world saves
left yacht
Jan what specs is that server running on?
finite wave
Intel Broadwell (4 cores assigned), 15GB Memory, and 25GB ssd. <- Both low because it's just an instance.
verbal garnet
Jan thats def world saves
left yacht
VMs really aren't powerful enoughto run minecraft servers.
but yeah world saving is the issue.
could disable it if your server doesn't crash often.
or make them less frequent
peak dirge
VMs really aren't powerful enoughto run minecraft servers.
Just had 80 players on a single large cloud VM. No problems. Then again, it's 1.12.2, not 1.14.
verbal garnet
being a VM or not should have nothing to do with anything
peak dirge
@finite wave Your biggest problem is (a) primarily 1.14 being a rushed and poorly optimized release of Minecraft and (b) in part the VM's storage, which is likely durable block storage and so must traverse an internal network
finite wave
I'll just blame 1.14
peak dirge
1.14 is the biggest reason why you're getting your lag spikes, due to world I/O. The only real fix is to use 1.12 or 1.13.
finite wave
@static badge Fix 1.14
peak dirge
We're working on a way to make 1.14 not shit, but in the meantime, blame Mojang.
upper flicker
I’ve had my credit card straight up rejected from international stuff
I probably could have called my bank and told them to fix their shit
But it’s also usually late
So you can just route that shit over PayPal
PayPal use my credit card for this purchase, loophole electric boogaloo
left yacht
Not everyone is you Tux.
not everyone can be bothered to optimize things.
but more power to you I guess
indigo cloud
peak dirge
@upper flicker I don't see myself rewriting the Minecraft server or client. Let's be honest, Glowstone has been trying to do the server and they're still far behind.
upper flicker
sadly that’s probably how it always be
Couple people in their spare time can’t keep up with a paid full time team
Even when that team is making botched launches
minor otter
Should I use .equals or == when comparing UUID's?
peak dirge
.equals()
minor otter
Aight thanks
peak dirge
Two UUIDs are logically the same, but likely not physically the same
You usually want logical comparison
minor otter
Oh, I was using it for comparing this:
if(factionUUID != null) {
for(Faction f : this.getFactions()) {
if(f.getUuid().equals(factionUUID))
return f;
}
}
return null;
}```@upper flicker If I were to make a clean-room MC implementation, I'd probably do an old version of Minecraft (i.e. beta 1.7.3, best beta)
upper flicker
It truly was ❤
minor otter
@peak dirge Will the way im comparing UUID's in the code above work properly?
peak dirge
The most scalable beta 1.7.3 server coming soon maybe? 😉
upper flicker
Think was doing one (or as clean of one as you can do after working in nms) in rust
But he was doing the client
peak dirge
@minor otter Yep that'll work
gritty cobalt
minor otter
welp one more question 😛
Im currently storing my faction objects inside a list
private List<Faction> factions = new ArrayList<>();
Would anything else be recommended above this?
Like hashsets or?
peak dirge
Well, are you predominantly looking up factions by their UUID? If so, you may want to use a HashMap instead.
minor otter
where I use theUUID of the faction as key?
minor otter
Is that neccesarry though? sorry if I spelled that incorrect 😛
peak dirge
Depends on if it's a common operation to look up factions by UUIDs.
You will go from O(n) performance to O(1) performance if you move to a HashMap with the key being a faction UUID, if this is the case.
acoustic pilot
If this is for a model/entity or something, I'd use a HashMap of UUIDs, yeah
peak dirge
O(n) - linear time, time depends on how many factions you have
O(1) - constant time, the time complexity doesn't change despite how many elements you have
minor otter
oh
acoustic pilot
Looking up a faction by UUID should be very fast
Much faster than looping through a list of factions for the one you want
minor otter
if(factionUUID != null) {
if(this.getFactions().containsKey(factionUUID))
return this.getFactions().get(factionUUID);
}
return null;
}```So that would be more efficient than my last code?
acoustic pilot
FactionsUUID the plugin is working off of an ancient codebase and largely maintaining compatibility with that old code base
I don't really blame the author
1.6 is really, really old
minor otter
Tux, what should I do, if I want to find a faction, but dont have the key? I only have one of the object values?
Such as the faction name
acoustic pilot
You keep a map of faction name -> faction UUID
presumably names have to be unique so this shouldn't be a big issue
minor otter
yah
void void
someone used GoDaddy?
minor otter
wait, I create another hashmap, with String as key, and faction as value?
minor otter
could you send me an example 😛
acoustic pilot
if you need to lookup a faction by its name (for example, user input from a command) then you could just do UUID factionId = name2id.get(name)
minor otter
Yeah
left yacht
byteflux, yeah we had to fork it to fix quite a few issues.
one of them was that on large servers the auto leave would call a bunch of getofflineplayer things on the main thread.
and most of the time it wouldn't be in the usercache.json
crashing the server
(as there's usually a whole faction it has to go through conveniently)
minor otter
Cant I just use this?
for(UUID factionUUID : this.getFactions().keySet()) {
if(this.getFactionByUUID(factionUUID).getTag().equalsIgnoreCase(factionName))
return this.getFactionByUUID(factionUUID);
}
return null;
}```private final Map<UUID, Faction> factionsById = new HashMap<>();
private final Map<String, Faction> factionsByName = new HashMap<>();
public Faction getFaction(UUID id) {
return factionsById.get(id);
}
public Faction getFaction(String name) {
return factionsByName.get(name);
}
``` @minor otter something like thatinstead of keeping the map
acoustic pilot
@minor otter If you want it to be case insensitive, then just use toLowerCase() on the name before you store it, and when you are looking it up
peak dirge
Because I am the resident OpenJ9 freak, I tried beta 1.7.3 with OpenJ9. Look at an expansive area and it lags even on max FPS. Zulu/HotSpot is fine.
minor otter
ah
merry talon
@void void don't
peak dirge
Hehe, Zulu has the same problem. Chalking it up to something else.
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: @austere ivy are you reading my messages?? Today is friday.
peak dirge
I miss shift-clicking on inventories.
merry talon
why not use 11?
peak dirge
We've run it for a year with no issues
void void
ram usage is waaayyy smaller at peak usage
however it seems to ignore -Xms == -Xmx
and still allocates less
peak dirge
OpenJ9 is an JVM implementation
merry talon
ah thought you mean openjdk 9
peak dirge
It's not just for Java 9. There's support for Java 8 through 12.
void void
i switched to openj9 11 on waterfall proxy and openj9 8 on 1.14.2 paper
seems to run pretty well ye, but servers boot up bit longer
acoustic pilot
OpenJ9 support for 8 is ending fairly soon though
void void
boo, i have to find a new way to inject jars into system classloader really soon then
because i haven't figured that out yet (mostly because how rarely i've looked into newer java)
cosmic raft
lol
peak dirge
For a while, I've wanted to write a experimental server showing how I would implement a Minecraft server. I tried it with Voxelwind, but Bedrock is an ever-changing target. I think Minecraft Beta 1.7.3 can hit a sweet spot.
limber knotBOT
Is it that much simpler than 1.14.x protocols?
peak dirge
It is a lot simpler, yes. No VarInt crap, for instance.
static badge
probably a little bit of a worse protocol too
upper flicker
1.7.3 beta remains best version
old badge
why beta 1.7.3?
median iris
So how do we know if you can rename the spigot title to "Legacy Support"??
peak dirge
Certainly the implementation is worse, given that it's using "classic" java.io. I'd replace it with Netty right away.
static badge
I'd build it to be mt-friendly
peak dirge
why beta 1.7.3?
The protocol is simpler, there isn't as many features (not even sprinting), and I don't want to make server software targetting the latest versions as it's too much of an uphill battle.
Glowstone is still on 1.12.2, mind you.
upper flicker
Pistons doe
peak dirge
@static badge I think the best approach (performance-wise) for this kind of thing is thread confinement, and maybe allow some MT-safe data reads.
Each world gets a thread, and if you want to do something in that world, post a task to handle it.
static badge
what I would be thinking is fuck the data reads, and simply regionize stuff
limber knotBOT
MT-friendly?
peak dirge
👀
static badge
threads would be confined to their region :>
need some special permission to go outside home
limber knotBOT
Spottedleaf: https://imgur.com/a/FFwLWMa
static badge
generally for vanilla really threads wont do that
limber knotBOT
oof
gentle tundra
does anyone else find the number of pillagers spawned a bit too high? Is that just related to the general mob spawning issue?
peak dirge
electron memes
static badge
electron is a meme
merry talon
freenode is one gigantic circlejerk
limber knotBOT
185 buffers (0 merged): 156 channels, 19 queries, 6 servers, 1 xfer, 1 relay, 1 fset, 1 core; 1 windows
in 36 channels on freenode
why on earth are you in that many channels
I do lots of things
fair
fathom crow
@wide hazel GW2, such a good game 😃
upper flicker
Think I’m in like 5 freenode channels. I should join some more
static badge
I should go join freenode
merry talon
csharp
static badge
squat on #paper
limber knotBOT
yes md678685
espernet, rizon, freenode, spigotmc, espernet3, dairc
on espernet twice because of channel limit
49 channels on espernet, 35 on espernet3
holy crap
:)
which client?
weechat
nice, always preferred that to irssi
use znc?
nope
lmao
woah
you don't? :o
nope
WeeChat 2.5-rc1 (git: v2.3-340-g2ab08885b) [compiled on May 29 2019 08:52:37]
Upgraded 2 times, first start: Tue Apr 2 05:22:54 2019, last start: Wed May 29 10:39:21 2019
static badge
I see you've been sliding into korobi's dms
and cafebabe
do either of them know you're cheating on them?
limber knotBOT
wzrd: and not nearly as resource intensive as discord :P
its fun running discord, irc, slack, and telegram
irc uses the least
and I can make it look how I want without hacks
slack hacks
kashike: Yeah, irc is my personal favorite in general
discord... hiscord
ah, much better https://i.imgur.com/6vFNN0G.png
upper flicker
Are you baiting with that font
limber knotBOT
but it's so easy to read
man i really dont understand this timing report. is anyone free to help me figure out what's causing so much lag?
peak dirge
Hmm... doing a beta 1.7.3 server from the ground up might actually be fun
Not only that, it might entice some people to make plugins for it if I were to incorporate modern practices into the design, because right now, your server options are both limited (to an ancient CraftBukkit build) and you don't get a proper online mode. A new server could fix that...
Plus, I do want to try and experiment with Electron. Maybe we can get Yggdrasil and online-mode authentication in the new server, too 😉
limber knotBOT
Hmm, apply old CB diffs to an MCP decompiled beta 1.7.3 then with some more modern performance patches and you could make a pretty sweet server
wouldn't the client need to support the authentication though?
More modern APIs too, some of the events and such would be useful back then although I think we covered most of it
peak dirge
The old auth servers were shut down, so you'd need to work on a different auth mechanism. I have an idea.
limber knotBOT
It was only beta 1.8 and on where we really fell behind on having API for things
Although that still had the old event system
static badge
old event system 
peak dirge
I think it would be nice to avoid having NMS code, but it's possible we could plug in some old Bukkit API stuff
void void
damn, just found a proper use for CompletableFutures
peak dirge
So then you can use all the old beta 1.7.3 CraftBukkit plugins
void void
why haven't i tried them before...
(i've just used kotlin coroutines to wrap database things before)
static badge
cuz ur retarded mikro
void void
no u
peak dirge
My main issue is DMCA concerns if I go down the route of forking CraftBukkit at beta 1.7.3. I don't think it will actually matter, but in theory, the risk still exists.
peak dirge
he did, didn't know if he did much after his initial work
peak dirge
void void
lol
peak dirge
Very little work done since early 2018.
boreal coyote
void void
depends
limber knotBOT
@peak dirge you could just generate patches like cb is done nowadays and work with that ¯_(ツ)_/¯
peak dirge
kind of annoying system to use
limber knotBOT
barty: get it
you gotta
I mean it doesn't change the actual development in the end, just how setting up and commiting changes work
I just allocate 10GB to every server I have, even the hub one where only one person can even access it lmao
makes me feel better about not using all of that memory
peak dirge
but considering just how much content is in beta 1.7.3, a ground-up rewrite may actually be quite feasible
limber knotBOT
@peak dirge could take glowstone and rip out anything that wasn't in 1.7.3 xD
peak dirge
lazy approach
peak dirge
but given its MIT license, I could borrow bits from it if I had to
well, and you also have to support the beta 1.7.3 protocol as well
static badge
should add support for the chad 1.7.3 protocol too
peak dirge
chad?
finite wave
You don’t know?
peak dirge
limber knotBOT
Wait you're referring to that?
peak dirge
Electron = Chrome + Node.js
finite wave
You are using electron right now
static badge
gross
finite wave
Well not wzrd prolly
limber knotBOT
Jan: no I'm using hexchat
peak dirge
I was thinking about using it for an authentication client for beta 1.7.3
peak dirge
A mod might work.
finite wave
Why not just don’t use 1.7
limber knotBOT
could just use a mod that allows logging into a mojang account 🤔
peak dirge
Why not just don’t use 1.7
Beta 1.7.3 best version of Minecraft
Plus, Mojang's putting out stinkers like 1.14
limber knotBOT
Have the client connect and prompt for a user password @peak dirge
Minecraft 2.0 was the best version though
peak dirge
I'll figure it all out in due time.
limber knotBOT
Like don't send any chunks or actually start gameplay stuff, wait for it to send a chat message password
lol
minecraft classic best version change my mind
peak dirge
I don't like that approach, too insecure.
limber knotBOT
the bedrock support approach
peak dirge
Beta 1.7.3 protocol is unencrypted.
limber knotBOT
"just send your login data to this random server, we swear we wont steal it" xD
Ah
might as well add encryption with the mod
static badge
tbh just make it use the updated auth servers :>
unreal quarry
static badge
true stories part 5
peak dirge
I want to focus on what I'm best at: writing network applications
limber knotBOT
nobody in the EU likes credit cards
quasi valley
here you dont need them to go into dept to pay university bills
left yacht
barty, it's ok with credit cards if you attach itto a paypal account
merry talon
a debit card is essentially a credit card
left yacht
or use guest checkout
debit cards are credit cards for people who can't be trusted with money.
merry talon
it still goes through the credit company
left yacht
instead of crippling debt you get a crippling balance
merry talon
unless the merchant knows of some kind of distinction, idk
limber knotBOT
I don't get credit cards
torpid iris
left yacht
but yeah credit and debit cards go through the same process.
left yacht
that's a new one. https://www.titanicfreak.com/imgs/8c3a4bc607b856a954337101e634141d.png
time update lmfao
finite wave
Cool
limber knotBOT
I think I crashed md
verbal lantern
finite wave
Cool
limber knotBOT
I just wanted to test DCC >.>
void void
An opinion request here, you think once I finished the spawn, order up another GB and pay a few "low end" server lists for sponsored slots? My idea was to use the current donation's funds to boost the donations from there (get more players so a few of those may donate). Seems like a good execution?
strong apex
void void
Hey welcome!
atomic rapids
void void
Hey welcome!
finite wave
Copy paster
void void
Nah I am not a copy cat.
limber knotBOT
@Friendly, given there's so many new people, greeting them all is a bit unnecessary :)
void void
Just trying to be friendly while I am here anyways. 😃
You will want at least 20k I don't have one set since it's not a problem for us yet.
Check your main thread usage, if you got more CPU cycles keep on going up gradually until you think it can't take it anymore. Any more and you risk crashing the server.
In case it's on the way you can stop it prematurely when Paper does a dump every 10 seconds of "freezing".
You are welcome.
peak dirge
Yep. It's the first furtive steps I've made. https://gyazo.com/da5ceec9fbef02b74172f0405eae7221
peak dirge
Fine, I'll switch to emacs.
atomic marten
That works
peak dirge
Just kidding!
atomic marten
Pathetic
peak dirge
For Java, can't give up a good IDE.
atomic marten
Debatable
boreal coyote
dry perch
lavish lily
vocal rune
Hi guys plz help
What is a light grief investigation plugin?
For example to see who modified chest contents or placed signs
limber knotBOT
coreprotect is nice, not sure how light it is
vocal rune
😔 Yeah
golden gust
If you want data you need to store it
CP or logblock miiiight let you configure how much they log
Not too sure
vestal jasper
You can choose what's stored in cp
all of the things you can toggle the logging of
- as of CP for 1.13.2
void void
finite wave
Someone wanna see something fun
limber knotBOT
@finite wave yep
finite wave
I can’t link it here due to... circumstancee
static badge
accidentally google it
finite wave
It’s too specific to google it
limber knotBOT
make a #nsfw channel
and then make Jan the only person that can see it, and make Jan only able to post in that channel
will fix all the problems
can't have nsfw in a partner discord iirc
limber knotBOT
test
regal onyx
Is anyone familiar with how much resources the plugin Quests uses? Is it minimal? Anyone know?
Unrelated i now :P
peak dirge
Update on that beta 1.7.3 thing: I ported/brought over a stripped-down version of the Netty components from Velocity, so it's got more structure now. Still need to actually implement the protocol, but it's progress.
limber knotBOT
@peak dirge what's special about netty?
@Ricoswaze really depends on what Quests plugin you mean, there are probably a good amount called that out there xD
static badge
netty appears to be a nice framework to base ur network stuff off of
got its thread management, stages of processing stuff, etc I think?
limber knotBOT
ah I see
peak dirge
Netty is the gold standard for writing Java network applications, hands down.
static badge
personally I just prefer new Thread
limber knotBOT
goddamnit leaf
every emoji appears as a link
so I click it, it changes my application, takes a sec to load, and then I'm greeted with kappa
static badge
yeah you can thank z for that
apparently he decided nice and modern irc clients were the priority
limber knotBOT
how so? do they display images inline?
static badge
yeah they'd render the image
regal onyx
@wheat quarry It's https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/quests.3711/
static badge
u still getting fucked by google kash?
regal onyx
One of the more popular ones
cosmic raft
yes
limber knotBOT
@Ricoswaze no idea then, was thinking of a differet one xD
cosmic raft
no
static badge
kash null brain?
heady shadow