non-license compliant plugins can die
#general
tropic flame
finite wave
I swear if it is obfuscated it can go die
austere ivy
Why are you folks all so competitive, plugins are plugins, people spend time on them, and not everyone is perfect, neither are all plugins perfect, you guys don't have to insult each other if you prefer one.
acoustic pilot
obfuscated premium plugins are trash by default, no redemption 😛
tropic flame
premium plugins usually get the "trash" stamp from me unless they are paid but open-source to everyone
acoustic pilot
well that's good, not obfuscated?
limber knotBOT
@austere ivy there is a difference between open source projects and propriatry software that probably stole half of the code anyways
austere ivy
What's the flag, Jan?
tropic flame
@spare venture it was a joke???? lmao
quasi valley
not a big but it's one
cedar spade
calls everyone else defensive
incessantly defends Essentials insults and promotes CMI
merry talon
there's a difference between being defensive and correcting retarded ideologies
finite wave
I'm just talking about uppercase package names @austere ivy
austere ivy
Oh okay.
cedar spade
"lmfap"
austere ivy
It's not a huge red flag, I mean you shouldn't do that, but it's just a convention, not a rule.
But yeah, you shouldn't do that. Conflicts with class names.
Or interfaces, I guess too.
finite wave
@austere ivy Well it's a flag when they do it in 150$ plugin
austere ivy
Lol yeah okay.
tropic flame
« i just said not to use essentials when someone said "pls update essentials" »
it was clearly a joke visible by how I purposefully typed "update" wrongly and made fun of the name EssentialsX by adding 2 extra X's, thus making a metaphore around XXX being a frequent symbol in pornography content
do I have to be more verbose than this
austere ivy
But you should focus on code more than a lowercase vs uppercase letter, just tell them to fix it and move on.
Or.. not tell them to fix it, they might get mad at you decompiling it 👀
I still don't like non-opensource plugins.
cedar spade
@tropic flame u alwayz hav 2b moar verbosse
austere ivy
CoreProtect and HeadDatabase are my rare exceptions haha.
merry talon
wtf is up with coreprotect still being closed
tropic flame
@austere ivy same, CP is free tho
finite wave
private static EconomyResponse deposit(CMIUser var0, double var1) {
if (var0 == null) {
return new EconomyResponse(0.0D, 0.0D, ResponseType.FAILURE, "Account doesn't exist");
} else if (var1 < 0.0D) {
return new EconomyResponse(0.0D, var0.getBalance(), ResponseType.FAILURE, "Cannot deposit negative funds");
} else {
Double var3 = var0.getBalance();
var0.deposit(var1);
fireEvent(var0, var3, var0.getBalance());
return new EconomyResponse(var1, var0.getBalance(), ResponseType.SUCCESS, "");
}
}
Intelli said CoreProtect will be opensource soon.
tropic flame
@merry talon
finite wave
No negative withdraws in CMI
austere ivy
Thanks, Logics.
austere ivy
Jan I feel like no negative withdraws is a good thing..?
merry talon
you open source it so people contribute, not get people to contribute so you can open source it
finite wave
deposits too* @austere ivy
austere ivy
Negative withdraws would just be adds so.
tropic flame
tell that to @rare herald 🤷
cedar spade
I enjoy it when people feel they have to defend their purchasing decisions by insulting all the competition
austere ivy
Withdraws and deposits are substracting and adding.
Neither should have negatives (but then again I could be wrong.)
finite wave
Minidigger had some ideas about deposits
tropic flame
lmao MD that's me when defending Android tbh so I get it
limber knotBOT
sunken cost fallacy 🤔
austere ivy
You don't say to a bank you'd like to deposit negative 100 dollars, or withdraw negative 100 dollars. That's just strange.
limber knotBOT
android doesn't cost money though? 🤔
cedar spade
@tropic flame "b- but iphones are shit!!!!"
tropic flame
tHiS aNdRoId PhOnE HaS tHe BeSt CaMeRa, FucK aPpLe
austere ivy
But then again I don't even use a bank myself so what do I know.
merry talon
You wouldn't say that to a bank but that's how it works in programming all the time
austere ivy
Sweepy, in the game it's not programming.
unique torrent
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
austere ivy
It's the game, players aren't supposed to be programming, they're playing a game trying to emulate (somewhat, I'm not saying thats the goal.) real life.
austere ivy
Barty, stop being rude to everyone.
quasi valley
judging by yours, you are 👀
austere ivy
Can you go about 15 minutes without calling someone a ret**d?
Again, I didn't say that, but sure, go ahead and put words in my mouth.
coarse urchin
r u rarted
limber knotBOT
hate speech, in MY christion discord?!?
quasi valley
barty just let it die
you're just making it worse
beating a dead horse with a dead horse
finite wave
Let's all appreciate this source tree
quasi valley
at least the packages have a system
acoustic pilot
lol that's some really bad package naming
yeah, i mean that's fine, just the casing sucks 😛
thorny crown
"CustomEventTrigers"
cedar spade
AllListeners
thorny crown
"DataBase"
finite wave
A default case of copy paste
austere ivy
I like how CMI has an armorstand editor, that's nice.
You know, you don't have to insult things just to say something else is better/nicer.
austere ivy
I use AST.
quasi valley
I guess you pay the 15 quid instead of searching for a dozen plugins doing what it does
some might want that
austere ivy
Love that thing, there are some things that are.. really annoying about it, but it's the best one out there IMO.
That and one other one.. I forget the name. It was a close contender for me using it though.
tropic flame
I like that in Nucleus (Sponge plugin) /world is actually a fully-featured world management command, while in EssentialsX it's just a world teleport command
cedar spade
CMI having lots of features doesn't mean they're implemented better than the alternatives
Especially when the alternatives are usually FOSS
limber knotBOT
yeah, I need to add a new version with edit GUI to mine too... but my players know the commands so they don't really care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tropic flame
but I mean, you got Multiverse-Core on bukkit/Spigot so why would EssentialsX have world management anyway
finite wave
CLI is just a collection of plugins tbh
cedar spade
/world is a weird quirky holdover from Essentials and I'm not even sure we should keep it
tidal siren
limber knotBOT
@austere ivy yeh
austere ivy
I currently really like AST (ArmorStandTools) but the thing that annoys me is how when you're changing an axis (like head Y axis) instead of changing it based on your PLAYER'S y axis, it changes based on where you're clicking on the armorstand.
Which is garbage, because then if the armorstand is a slight bit into the ground, you can't change it to where you want it.
limber knotBOT
well mine only does commands so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
austere ivy
But that'd be fine if you can manually input the variables you want.
But you can't use commands, it's GUI only.
cedar spade
Nucleus is imo more comprehensive than EssentialsX, and is free to download and FOSS
austere ivy
GUI and clicky-clicky in real world.
limber knotBOT
but yeah, more advanced posing features are definitly planed, just never got to that
austere ivy
I do like it when it's out of the ground but I wish you could both use that clicky thing and commands.
limber knotBOT
also tbh there's no reason to not just use two tool plugins in parallel for such a feature ;D
cedar spade
I can't think of anything off the top of my head that Nucleus does worse than EssentialsX - Nucleus had the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of Essentials, while EssentialsX just has to live with them
austere ivy
I suppose :p
cedar spade
I should write up my EssentialsX rewrite wishlist somewhere :p
austere ivy
MD, at this point, I'd just start making EssentialsX rather than just "updating" it but it's your plugin, not like I've done anything worthwhile haha.
crystal compass
When paper releases 1.14.1 will it be recommended?
austere ivy
Then again I think people can just fork EssX so.. there's that too.
We're not sure, Sam, currently we're waiting for Spigot to update.
cedar spade
It won't be recommended until it's stable
1.14.1 may never be stable, especially if 1.14.2 comes out with more improvements
austere ivy
^
crystal compass
Ahh okay.
Just trying to decide when I should bring my server to 1.14.
Guessing not for a little bit
cedar spade
Not yet ™
astral yew
cursive oracle
suggestion/idea for the Paper Devs: I if its possible using the Scripting Api for bedrock please do a plugin/mod called "Paper AI" which replaces the vanilla ai to papers mob ai. i have currently so many performance issues on BDS (Bedrock Dedicated Server) bc the mobs are that crazy in bedrock. its really funny that a paper server can handle 20 players with 19-20 tps but using the same hardware my bedrock server cant even handle 7 players 😦 i had better performance on BDS when i turned mobs off so im sure the causing issues are the mobs
tropic flame
I'm scared that the best time to update to 1.14 will be when 1.15 is out
because that shouldn't be how things should be
austere ivy
@cursive oracle you might want to put that in #paper-dev or somewhere else, #general is more for general conversation, I doubt the paper devs will see that here.
cursive oracle
oh sry
finite wave
Paper is not for bedrock
austere ivy
@cursive oracle but the paper devs are exclusively using Java, I highly doubt they'll port over the paper mob AI to Scripting API for bedrock which I think is in JavaScript.
cursive oracle
no
golden gust
We don't touch bedrock
cedar spade
I'm not sure anyone could improve Bedrock's performance by rewriting its AI in scripts
tropic flame
eww non-JVM language
limber knotBOT
"its really funny that a paper server can handle 20 players with 19-20" wat
golden gust
You likely don't have access to the stuff in BDS to be able to rewrite all of their API efficiently, and script performance is not a best seller
limber knotBOT
20 is very little
cedar spade
Depends on hardware
limber knotBOT
uh, I guess
cursive oracle
20 tps. yeah but i use as server Odroid h2
finite wave
It was just an example
limber knotBOT
I remember the days when you could easily run 100 players with 20tps without having to sacrifice gameplay ;_;
finite wave
@austere ivy lol
limber knotBOT
Intel Celeron J4105 as a minecraft server CPU wat
finite wave
You guys are autistic
cursive oracle
it runs fine on paper so why not shouldnt it work on bds
cedar spade
Because the majority of the Bedrock server internals are completely different to the Java server
quasi valley
they probably do more know than back then
austere ivy
Jan, why are you so rude to everyone?
quasi valley
it's just that classic didn't actually consist of anything to have THAT much of a performance impact
limber knotBOT
s/the majority of/
Correction, <DiscordBot> <06MD (not that one)> Because **** the Bedrock server internals are completely different to the Java server
small carbon
waterfall 1.14.1 when?
golden gust
small carbon
ok
quasi valley
if that was your point you should be wording your sentences better 👀
cedar spade
literally the opposite meaning
austere ivy
MD, what's all the numbers in your name mean?
austere ivy
Barty you're just sarcastic and rude all the time so when you're actually being sarcastic no one can tell the difference.
quasi valley
it's probably his serial number
cedar spade
gee I wish someone invented a convention for conveying sarcasm in online text-only messages /s
gee you're welcome
austere ivy
:)
limber knotBOT
I just always assume stuff is meant sarcastic tbh and only try to read it the "Normal" way when sarcasm doesn't make sense...
cedar spade
I wasn't mad, I just found the entire backlash to your comment amusing
hushed musk
fringe quartz
if you use sarcasm properly, you don't need /s
placid thicket
so did they mention a 1.14.2 somewhere? seen it brought up but cant find any mojang staff saying it
golden gust
There was a tweet on twitter
fringe quartz
Or was it a twit on tweeter
golden gust
Both
fringe quartz
heavy shale
placid thicket
still not finding it, who said it? normally i get info from Dinnerbone but hes been quiet lately
golden gust
Oh, it was the top of their release post
gloomy sphinx
literally no info though
fringe quartz
gloomy sphinx
don't see why they would since 1.14.1 just released
placid thicket
ah, that's what i was looking for thanks
fringe quartz
More of a critical hotfix yeah
placid thicket
hey well, it fixed ALMOST all of the problems that made me want to kill myself...
now if only they'd fix the lighting issues already
fringe quartz
still not fixed in .1?
quasi valley
did you try erasing the lighting cache?
placid thicket
can't, 12gb server world and there is still no way to do that without downloading/erasing/uploading for 6 hours
gloomy sphinx
wot
just stop the server and delete the cache?
don't need to download the whole world
FileZilla ftp?
placid thicket
last i checked, you can't delete the cache on a server, unless i missed that
would also mean that when i asked about --forceUpgrading here that people informed me wrong or didnt know
signal zealot
gloomy sphinx
what is the difference between deleting cache from the world while it is on the server VS locally?
nothing
just saves you time
placid thicket
locally, it gives you a nice button that says recalculate light, on the server there is no such button
gloomy sphinx
should be fine
placid thicket
@spare venture i have found no information about that command even existing
wide hazel
small sierra
neato
tropic flame
nice, by 1.19 we will have --forceUpgrade --eraseCache --eraseNewPvP --forceAsyncChunks --eraseHumanity
placid thicket
according to that, the issue is still happening even after clearing the cache though
fringe quartz
I've always been fond of the phrase "Killed to death"
placid thicket
i like "died to death" as well
@tropic flame at least they gave us a way to upgrade entire worlds, i just wish that i didn't have to scower majoria to find information on it
i will see if we can get our host to do that for us, lighting is getting a bit stupid TBH
fringe quartz
according to the bug report you posted though, still has problems
stiff yarrow
fringe quartz
guess we're waiting for 1.14.2!
placid thicket
it seems to be really hard for them to pin down why its happening
i have a damn bird on my head again >.>
orchid pelican
Im guessing still no 1.14.1 spgiot release?
placid thicket
probably not
limber knotBOT
md5 is well awake
I mean nothing stops you from just updating it to 1.14.1 yourself 🤔
jovial flume
orchid pelican
this is true
limber knotBOT
you are assuming i am not an idiot phoenix616, that is a bad assumption
pulsar wigeon
1.14 counting https://i.imgur.com/62o0hsP.png LUL
orchid pelican
Chunks are still a little wonky in their loading order and there rendering in the client
pulsar wigeon
nah i just like how it's at 0% for 2 seconds and then 15-83-91 done within the 3rd second
orchid pelican
1.14 is a snapshot you know
keen oasis
limber knotBOT
I think he meant "1.14 was supposed to be a snapshot"
wild haven
rugged light
orchid pelican
its pretty much a snapshot
merry talon
I've gone from loving sysadmin to wanting to jump out my window because nginx and docker break every 12 god damn seconds and I can't do my work
in like a week
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.g sysadmin xkcd
limber knotBOT
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limber knotBOT
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merry talon
ok
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LUL
limber knotBOT
We've got a 1.14.1. Any idea when a paper 1.14 will be ready?
merry talon
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
limber knotBOT
But they have a 1.14
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do they have .1?
limber knotBOT
I'm losing players to spigot 1.14 servers.
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we do have 1.14 builds if that's what you mean
limber knotBOT
there is a paper 1.14, but its not very stable :D
How would I get it. It's not on the download page.
acoustic pilot
doesn't sound like a very interesting server if people will split just because it's 1 version behind 😃
limber knotBOT
If you still want to use it, FatherWh0: https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.14/latest/download
:]
merry talon
🤦
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we need to bridge #announcements z 
merry talon
we don't link it like that for a reason
limber knotBOT
but you recommend waiting
upper flicker
Doesn’t really work with IRC not having scroll back
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I mean if you're on 1.14 spigot might as well try out paper
acoustic pilot
putting it on the website with a big red notice is probably not a bad idea either
limber knotBOT
Haven't had issues with either, both ran fine.
static badge
if it blows up file a report and go back to spigot
limber knotBOT
But the casual 1.14 world gen issues are just too annoying zzz
upper flicker
It’ll probably replace 1.13.2 on the downloads page once 1.14.1 is available and stable
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are there world gen issues?
limber knotBOT
Well by world gen I mean chunk loading
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oh performance
limber knotBOT
im tired, that's a valid excuse
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yeah that's mojang
sturdy fulcrum
Can I get a rank
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no table
limber knotBOT
zxcv: yeah, why?
stone fog
Somehow my server can not connect to the authorization server after a reboot
limber knotBOT
irc never forgets
stone fog
Is there a possible fix for that?
sturdy fulcrum
Good
sick egret
limber knotBOT
aikar should really update empire to at least 1.13, its ok if shit breaks
pliant bison
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Showstopper 1.14.1 - length 23m - 161 likes, 5 dislikes (97.0%) - 959 views - MethodZz on 2019.05.13
pliant bison
Awesome game design!
limber knotBOT
was just going through survival servers list
onyx ginkgo
sweet torrent
austere forge
void void
clear swallow
austere ivy
zxcv, I've spoken with Aikar about this and he says that server performance in 1.13 tanked and he had to do numerous things with Paper to try to fix it, but he said he won't update EMC to 1.13 most likely, he'll stay on 1.12.2 because it's much more stable, and I agree; my server is on 1.12 aswell.
limber knotBOT
stability is one of the things that prevents empire from growing
need to add more cool shit ^_^
unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
ur retarded
void void
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ur retarded
limber knotBOT
no u
1.13 was doodoo but it's really stable now, @austere ivy
@spare venture only because of the color!
the color makes everything more fun
lost hawk
void void
what means eta?
queen rapids
estimated time of arrival
void void
ah thx!
unreal quarry
Eliminate the askers
limber knotBOT
eat the aikars
austere ivy
Hey Aikar, how's 1.13?
left yacht
this is more of a test to see how slow is 1.14 is but damn. 10 hours to pregenerate only 10% of a 10k by 10k map.
it also slows down to like 9 chunks per few seconds after an hour.
fallen oracle
It's really that bad?
left yacht
13.05 20:13:02 [Server] INFO [Fill] 51 more chunks processed (163125 total, ~10.0%) (free mem: 6828 MB)
13.05 20:13:07 [Server] INFO [Fill] 67 more chunks processed (163192 total, ~10.0%) (free mem: 9251 MB)
13.05 20:13:12 [Server] INFO [Fill] 64 more chunks processed (163256 total, ~10.0%) (free mem: 11679 MB)
13.05 20:13:17 [Server] INFO [Fill] 53 more chunks processed (163309 total, ~10.0%) (free mem: 6356 MB)
13.05 20:13:22 [Server] INFO [Fill] 60 more chunks processed (163369 total, ~10.0%) (free mem: 8855 MB)
13.05 20:13:27 [Server] INFO [Fill] 53 more chunks processed (163422 total, ~10.0%) (free mem: 11194 MB)
13.05 20:13:27 [Server] INFO [Fill] Saving the world to disk, just to be on the safe side. (free mem: 11194 MB)
13.05 20:13:32 [Server] INFO [Fill] 55 more chunks processed (163477 total, ~10.0%) (free mem: 5884 MB)
fallen oracle
On 1.13 or 1.12 I could do an entire 10k map in 3 hours.
left yacht
yeah same
It could because the API for it is garbage.
but like I'm not manually flying around and pre-generating that map LOL.
left yacht
we are waiting for 1.14.1, but I wanted to start development on 1.14. Trying to have a survival server on 1.14.1 by the end of the month.
fallen oracle
Fair enough.
Maybe if you start pregen now, you'll get lucky and have it done by then.
left yacht
one can hope
one thing I noticed in 1.14 not in other versions. It'll happily use every single core load the world, used to only be a couple of cores. But now I have 100% usage on all cores. glorious
doesn't mean it's fast though.
fallen oracle
Gotta make it faster!
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it's not designed to prevent you from allocating memory
fallen oracle
Can't use the default flags.
left yacht
I don't use ptero so I can't help you. Multicraft shill here.
Multicraft requires edited flags though as well
fallen oracle
Yeah you can use paper flags you just can't allocate it all at once I think.
limber knotBOT
why do people use panels like that? to give access to non-owners?
left yacht
yes, controls risk on large scale networks.
fallen oracle
Some people just like a nice interface.
unreal quarry
or you could just not give people you dont trust any access..
limber knotBOT
what kind of control do you need to be giving people?
what? you mean I'm not supposed to op all players that join?
unreal quarry
thats how I do it. theres a handful of people i give full ssh access to to help run the server
limber knotBOT
^
unreal quarry
i would never install a panel to give half ass access to shady people
trust or bust
gloomy sphinx
super unsafe to use ssh every time to login
austere ivy
I completely agree, Billy.
limber knotBOT
what should i use to login TCC
austere ivy
If they're shady people you don't trust, you probably shouldn't have them on your staff team.
gloomy sphinx
to manage a server is what i meant to say
unless if you know how to setup users and groups properly
limber knotBOT
meh i just use SSH
unreal quarry
fun fact, i even give those handful of users full root access via su/sudo
limber knotBOT
yep
orchid pelican
How are you even attempting to prevent on 1.14 lol it’s crashes every time
gloomy sphinx
rip
left yacht
how is it crashing?
fallen oracle
A lot of people use ptero cause it makes it easy on them to connect multiple servers together.
gloomy sphinx
ptero is very easy and nice to manage a network
limber knotBOT
I've only given a single person SSH access and he's my web guy.
Everything else is done through me
you know what else is easy to manage multiple servers with
screen
unreal quarry
tmux, and screen
gloomy sphinx
yeah and what do you do when you are working, but you need to manage your servers? ssh via phone lol
unreal quarry
i run my server in screen, and use tmux to manage panes for multiple things, one of them screens into the mc console ^_^
unreal quarry
phones have ssh clients, TCC
limber knotBOT
ssh via phone yes
limber knotBOT
I'd rather call leaf a non retard than try to SSH through my phone
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phones
limber knotBOT
its pretty easy
unreal quarry
i do, almost daily ^_^
gloomy sphinx
disgusting
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vic ur retarded
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ur retarded
gloomy sphinx
all 4 of you are retarded
gloomy sphinx
lol no
limber knotBOT
plebs
gloomy sphinx
you just dont have the brain capacity like leaf to learn how to setup a panel
orchid pelican
When you have git on your phone
limber knotBOT
You say this as I'm speaking through irc on arch
limber knotBOT
panels just scream shared hosting to me
unreal quarry
^
gloomy sphinx
then you have autism
limber knotBOT
and handholding
dawn fjord
gloomy sphinx
ssh via phone screams autism to me
limber knotBOT
i miss my pepes
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get a room
unreal quarry
back in my day, we didnt have fancy panels and flashy guis. we did everything in a terminal, all the time. you kids dont even know how to computer
limber knotBOT
leaf ur retarded you don't know what a room is
unreal quarry
runs
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vic ur retarded u don't know that ur retarded
gloomy sphinx
a control panel isnt about a fancy screen and flash buttons
its about properly managing your servers
not using insecure root logins
on your mobile device
gloomy sphinx
a full network no
limber knotBOT
do yu know what SSH stands for
gloomy sphinx
just a waste of time
unreal quarry
you're the one with the limited mind, then
gloomy sphinx
secure but only as secure as the device you're loggin in on
limber knotBOT
when you say a full network
Panel is convenient. SSH works but it's not as convenient.
do you mean like multiple servers?
limber knotBOT
using screen is probably simpler than a panel
gloomy sphinx
no
limber knotBOT
how
Setting up a panel is annoying the first time you do it tbh
because you use a mouse instead of typing one line?
orchid pelican
I have an ash sever running all the time for my phone
limber knotBOT
literally its like 20 characters to change what screen session you're in
unreal quarry
you panel guys remind me of this guy
limber knotBOT
and its free
sharp sigil
limber knotBOT
yo
limber knotBOT
lockpurms
orchid pelican
Link for screen ?
limber knotBOT
uh
gloomy sphinx
I dont think you guys understand control panels
unreal quarry
i also recommend looking into tmux. its amazing
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filthy debian user
left yacht
TCC, don't argue with them ok.
us control panel users are like a whole different species to them.
gloomy sphinx
i dont even like control panels
left yacht
web interface for luckperms is useless.
limber knotBOT
i just dont get how you can say a control panel is better
orchid pelican
Have y’all seen the new windows terminal
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there's a web interface?
limber knotBOT
yes
unreal quarry
yes leaf, it kinda sucks
lapis shale
Heyyyy loves
unreal quarry
i prefer hand editing yaml files (because i hate databases)
lapis shale
Can someone help me download the newest spigot 1.14.1 build 😄
gloomy sphinx
the web interface for luckperms is fine for a quick update but to do advanced things it is useless
left yacht
I prefer the old fashion system of giving everyone OP and trusting them.
static badge
oh boy 1.14.1 is out
lapis shale
yes
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time to update paper
lapis shale
how to downloadddd
lapis shale
Buildtools doesnt seem to recognize it
limber knotBOT
ping Spottedleaf to get your 1.14.1
left yacht
1.14.1!
gloomy sphinx
spigot 1.14.1 wasnt released
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gloomy sphinx
it was?
gloomy sphinx
that was fast
static badge
I don't think he pushed yet
orchid pelican
Does spigot Mc make anything other than donations ?
limber knotBOT
barty you use the ultron browser?
md_5 runs off of pure autism
yes google ultron?
unreal quarry
says last edited 27 minutes ago
limber knotBOT
ye
static badge
I don't need a corresponding commit
unreal quarry
if it takes him that long to push...
lapis shale
Its how I made my gaming pc more epic
static badge
dude I don't see the commit
left yacht
somewhere in his world
static badge
how do am merge if no commit?
limber knotBOT
if you don't know you prob shouldn't use it
unreal quarry
he hasnt pushed yet
lapis shale
rip
static badge
yeah I just told everyone this 
unreal quarry
maybe his cat unplugged his wifi after he edited the post but before he pushed the commit
left yacht
thanks md_5
unreal quarry
no to what?
static badge
<md_5> ye Im writing more stuff and its taking a while
left yacht
but not actually push it
tnot confusing at all
I don't care either way.
I'm just bored waiting for a 1.14 server to pregenerate.
currently watching a stone erode away in my hand.
by the air
unreal quarry
you can crash the server by flying at normal creative speed in a straight line for 60 seconds
orchid pelican
<md_5> ye Im writing more stuff and its taking a while
unreal quarry
^_^
static badge
I just pasted that
static badge
u guys are slow as fuck
left yacht
meh
fallen oracle
So is 1.14.1 supposed to fix the chunk bugs?
unreal quarry
or you just havent got to an ocean yet
orchid pelican
oh ahaha
limber knotBOT
yes glare
fallen oracle
Awesome.
orchid pelican
ye fluid tick shreds lol
limber knotBOT
according to mochang
left yacht
brb flying to a ocean
unreal quarry
fluids cause the crash. more fluids = high chance to cause the race condition which crashes the server
orchid pelican
intersting how you havnt crashed yet
left yacht
oh wait it causes race conditions?
orchid pelican
maybe your frequency is super low
limber knotBOT
race conditions :kreygasm:
left yacht
oh I already had 500 of those.
left yacht
we out here
the fix for that was just never actually logging into the server.
while it pregenerates
btw billy it's more of a test of performance.
I'm just bored and hate myself so I'm letting it complete.
austere ivy
Billy did you see me and kashike's house thingy?
austere ivy
Oh yeah, course.
fallen oracle
Interesting. Just saw a skript posted on Resources and it said "Auto Updater" and it looks like every single minute, it runs an HTTP request to pastebin to check for an update.
Seems a little excessive.
austere ivy
,_,
left yacht
does it also run on the main thread Glare?
left yacht
because so many auto updaters do that
left yacht
oh skript
fallen oracle
So I'll assume so.
left yacht
yeah it's main thread
fallen oracle
This dude about to cause some shit if anyone uses it.
limber knotBOT
s k r i p t
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vic
fallen oracle
Yo I saw a resource earlier for a Skript obfuscator and I just laughed so hard.
left yacht
(Our hubs for a 1000+ player network are all in skript, AMA)
limber knotBOT
leaf
limber knotBOT
ur retarded
left yacht
our hubs have the oldest code base in our collection, can't wait to get rid of them.
orchid pelican
isnt skript super inefficient
fallen oracle
left yacht
yes
austere ivy
What should I do now?
shell vine
limber knotBOT
ew security through obscurity
void void
wait what
left yacht
(I'm an addict for abolishing obfuscation, so many plugins actually are so much more efficient by removing their obfuscation)
void void
WHATTHE HELL
void void
I'm literally choking on tea rn
a SKRIPT OBFUSCATOR
WELL WELL WELL
wait skript is server side wtf
why
what's the point???
oh
austere ivy
Yikes wow my computer just froze for 1 minute.
left yacht
gonna obfuscate it with that
fallen oracle
I didn't know Skript couldn't be server side
austere ivy
Obfuscation is so silly.
fallen oracle
It's a plugin
austere ivy
Do you really take your code that seriously that you're basically more than copyrighting it?
void void
glares at ZKM
austere ivy
You're just not-helping new people who want to learn from your code.
limber knotBOT
brian baits part 29
austere ivy
Vic, be quiet. I'm not baiting.
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brian baits part 35
limber knotBOT
"People are entitled to learn from your code"
fallen oracle
- takes code that seriously -
- is literally changing strings to other strings to hide my original strings written in plain english -
austere ivy
I'm being serious I think it's silly to obfuscate code.
That's my opinion. I'm not baiting.
limber knotBOT
It's still yes
left yacht
featherboard, the #1 reason I'm still suicidal
limber knotBOT
silly*
static badge
ah those types of obfuscation is hilarious
fallen oracle
There used to be some open source plugin that would obfuscate for releases.
static badge
"lol am obf my strings"
fallen oracle
Never understood that.
orchid pelican
if mc didnt obfuscate lol
left yacht
well MC has a valid point to do it.
austere ivy
Yeah, Minecraft is a different thing. They're a big deal, people would like to copy it.
orchid pelican
lmfao
orchid pelican
when they know nothing about how the jvm works
fallen oracle
A few months back, some people here deobfuscated that BeerSpigot jar and found that it's licenses system just checked via some xenforo URL
fallen oracle
Yup
orchid pelican
the skript one?
left yacht
nah beerspigot's obfuscation
orchid pelican
does it actually?
left yacht
yes
orchid pelican
oh its string
static badge
there's probably some other bullshit they do
void void
yGuard ❤
orchid pelican
variable obfuscation does noithing to pref
fallen oracle
And it's actually really easy to deobfucuated. They found out how he did it (like the byte code or whatever he ran it again) in about 5 minutes and undid a lot of it.
So basically you can just change that class to reach out to your own URL or even disable it and it'll just work fine I guess.
left yacht
There was a plugin out there that would build a string with a stacktrace.
fallen oracle
Just a guess ^
left yacht
and then bit shifting
austere ivy
Obfuscating plugins is silly because if you're protecting against actual plugin creators which would be the ones who would "steal your code" and somewhat profit or gain from it, I doubt they're going to steal your code, and if they wanted to, they're going to just use the obfuscated form anyway. It has the same functionality. All you're harming is the new coders who want to learn from your plugin.
left yacht
after removing the obfuscation the performance of the plugin was like 3x better.
10% cpu usage before vs 3.3%
austere ivy
🤦
fallen oracle
Well doesn't it constantly deobfus while running to handle the code?
orchid pelican
what did it even add
fallen oracle
Never actually tried to obfus before
austere ivy
In the Skript obfuscator's comment section:
orchid pelican
beerspgiot?
austere ivy
So the maker of the skript can redownload it and deobfuscate if he lost the Skript, lol.
orchid pelican
doesnt that break the license of spigot
fallen oracle
The dude left a review
left yacht
but some of the best web developers we've ever worked with are from mc-market
fallen oracle
In case he forgot his own code
orchid pelican
what is psigots license
austere ivy
What's BeerSpigot?
unreal quarry
@static badge its pushed!
left yacht
why did I even talk about beerspigot
austere ivy
No idea.
orchid pelican
the web hasnt fetched the json yet
fallen oracle
You sure Billy? Don't see it yet.
unreal quarry
fallen oracle
I think at one point that beer jar was faking the TPS
austere ivy
...
orchid pelican
lmfao
orchid pelican
thats so stupid
left yacht
setting TPS is a HORRIBLE idea btw
austere ivy
Got bad server performance? Buy BeerSpigot and do /settps 20! INSTANTLY FIXED! /s
left yacht
well no /settps just sets the nominal tps
orchid pelican
otaly isnt a rippoff
left yacht
what it'll try to run it.
austere ivy
It's still useless.
left yacht
austere ivy
Why on earth is a server trying to run at less than optimal TPS lol.
limber knotBOT
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orchid pelican
Builtools now live
unreal quarry
you gonna stream @static badge?
austere ivy
That.. sounds like a bad.. idea..
fallen oracle
This is the URL that beer verifies your licenses at http://www.blurpvp.com/webpanel/verify.php
Can confirm 1.14.1 is on BuildTools now.
upper flicker
/settps "🌮".hashcode()
queen rapids
WOOO
orchid pelican
building now
left yacht
I always wished minecraft supported emojis in chat 😦
austere ivy
:(
left yacht
it would be really cancer though
orchid pelican
lets check that sweat gen perf
queen rapids
yea me too titanic
austere ivy
WHO WANTS A :diamond_sword: FOR 1000 :vbuck:S
limber knotBOT
Glare you sure? Don't see it
orchid pelican
somone should write a mod to support it
like encode the emojis into like discord style
austere ivy
Didn't Billy do something like that?
left yacht
billy has done just about everything iirc
orchid pelican
I would use it
austere ivy
Let me see if I can find it.
fallen oracle
Tronic,
left yacht
why am I trying to use buildtools
on a very weak VPS
with like half of it's cpu stolen
oh because I'm a mad man
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Pl3xIcons v3.0 - length 19m 51s - 11 likes, 1 dislike (91.7%) - 1,979 views - Pl3x Development on 2016.04.30
static badge
he pushed 
unreal quarry
i told you he did, leaf
queen rapids
ur late
unreal quarry
like 2 seconds after he pushed
static badge
was in the bathroom u fuks
austere ivy
@orchid pelican see above.
unreal quarry
(i've been refreshing his stash every second)
left yacht
buildtools is slow as usual, he's probably getting the hug of death rn
queen rapids
sorta ironic bc you were making fun of people for being late 30 minutes ago leaf
unreal quarry
i was gonna try but i'm gettinc onflicts trying to build paper 1.14 by itself lol
so gave up
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left yacht
13.05 21:08:22 [Server] INFO [Fill] 61 more chunks processed (200075 total, ~12.2%) (free mem: 2407 MB)
13.05 21:08:27 [Server] INFO [Fill] 56 more chunks processed (200131 total, ~12.2%) (free mem: 2542 MB)
12.2%!
unreal quarry
i probably have something changed in the project somewhere ¯_(ツ)_/¯
austere ivy
Titanic, have time to kill?
orchid pelican
what aboout it teh
austere ivy
Those are the icons I was telling you about.
orchid pelican
what are alikars starup args agian?
austere ivy
.flags
limber knotBOT
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orchid pelican
thangs
austere ivy
No problem.
unreal quarry
@austere ivy you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z78E2QB3lEA
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Chat icons and emojis - length 24s - 1 like, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 98 views - Pl3x Gaming on 2017.10.14
austere ivy
Isn't that the same thing?
unreal quarry
no
austere ivy
Huh.
unreal quarry
the one you linked is a server side plugin + client side resource pack
this one is a forge client mod
austere ivy
Hey that's cool how it automatically goes in your chatbar itself.
Text enter thingy?
You know what I'm trying to say 👀
static badge
let's see how many conflicts there are
orchid pelican
im guessing 28
austere ivy
Do you have downloads anywhere for that, Billy?
left yacht
if it's over 100 I'll cry
unreal quarry
doubt it
austere ivy
Aw ;(
unreal quarry
too many things i've made never got published
lol
i just like to code stuff
dont really care if it ever gets out or not
@spare venture you know you're not supposed to run BT in the server directory, yeah?
you run BT in its own directory, then copy the jar to your server directory when its done
austere ivy
Barty.. you're.
limber knotBOT
do you guys think 1.15 will be a pvp update?
queen rapids
i think it will
austere ivy
Maybe. There was a talk about that.
gloomy sphinx
more to burn
austere ivy
I think pvp + cave update.
left yacht
1.15 will be the update that makes minecraft a 2D game.
orchid pelican
wb is broken lol
austere ivy
Titanic, got some time to kill?
queen rapids
LOL
austere ivy
Eh it's not too bad, there are some nice people here like Billy and kash.
unreal quarry
hey @austere ivy it did make it online https://github.com/BillyGalbreath/Pl3xForge/blob/master/src/main/java/net/pl3x/forge/listener/ClientEventHandler.java#L54-L114
^_^
left yacht
billy roasts me half of the time.
gloomy sphinx
titanicfreak uses multicraft dont talk to him
austere ivy
Billy still is nice though.
He's not like everyone else who are just unnecessarily rude and .. awful.
Hey that's nice Billy ;D
Billy mind if I bring Titanic on that one server of yours?
(we can build or something) ¯_(ツ)_/¯
unreal quarry
the one I deleted?
unreal quarry
lol ^_^
i told you it was just a test server i throw one up every few days, then delete it
limber knotBOT
see if this works... java -jar BuildTools.jar --rev 1.14.1
austere ivy
Titanic wanna play on a 1.12.2 server 👀
fallen oracle
It does
lapis shale
swerve
orchid pelican
dont use the latest worldborder verison lol
limber knotBOT
yup.... built just fine
austere ivy
Wherever you want to play, I'll play too ;p
My computer can't run anything past 1.12 well.
austere ivy
For several reasons, listed below:
unreal quarry
@static badge y u no stream? 😠
austere ivy
static badge
lemme figure this out first
austere ivy
If you want to play 1.12 I'm up though ;D
limber knotBOT
Success! Everything compiled successfully. Copying final .jar files now.
left yacht
Chasewhip, I assume you jst want the jar
limber knotBOT
Copying spigot-1.14.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar to /home/erik/sandbox/spigot/./spigot-1.14.1.jar
left yacht
no worldborder
limber knotBOT
yeah
limber knotBOT
wanna see it in git brach -a
orchid pelican
erg i dont wanna have to comple this
left yacht
nvm spigot is same version
IMPORTANT: SPIGOT 1.14 REMOVES A FUNCTION USED IN THIS 1.9.9 WB BUILD, LEADING TO ERRORS, SO IT IS NOT PROPERLY SUPPORTED. IF YOU ARE RUNNING SPIGOT 1.14, YOU WILL CURRENTLY DO BETTER USING WB 1.9.
orchid pelican
i cant get the 1.9
left yacht
I assume paper readded the API or something 1.14 becuase it works fine for me on paper 1.14
static badge
wat api
left yacht
async chunk generation spotted?
unreal quarry
@void void you know it just dropped like 5 minutes ago? no one has built it yet
orchid pelican
orchid pelican
note my jar is named paper but its spigot
limber knotBOT
git branch checkout origin/ver/1.14.1 ????
orchid pelican
git checkout origin ver/1.14
left yacht
er, I just think paper has an API that worldborder is trying to check for.
and it just doesn't know how to handle 1.14 in general
fallen oracle
Oh boy it's Cloudflare's Speed Week.
orchid pelican
got a 1.9.0
unreal quarry
ovh takes a week to fill orders now? o_O
left yacht
nah it's one specific model
that's selling like fucking mad
Advance-2
we bought 7 of them recently as they're amazing dedicated servers.
austere ivy
Are they expensive?
orchid pelican
use my cpu god dam it spigot
orchid pelican
only 219 chunks per seccwhatever the intervul is
left yacht
one time payment lmfao
queen rapids
monthly
limber knotBOT
hahaha
austere ivy
9072 dollars a year!?
left yacht
for that server