also been wondering why it's marked as provided and not the default compile in paper
#general
acoustic pilot
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well I guess it's back to fixing compile errors
void void
what would be the odds of finding a minecraft server if i pinged random IPs lel
acoustic pilot
spotted should just switch to linux since he's bad at overwatch any way
limber knotBOT
Mono: You can pretty quickly scan the entire IPv4 range for minecraft servers
acoustic pilot
nothing on windows keeping you back once you acknowledge you just bad at the game
limber knotBOT
ZMap can scan all of IPv4 in about an hour
pulsar wigeon
???
limber knotBOT
All it's tell you is the port is open, you can't talk protocol with it
upper flicker
2^32 isnt that high a number tbh
void void
hmm
limber knotBOT
It's only 3.7 billion addresses
void void
well
pulsar wigeon
you realize it takes more data to say, watch a video in hd?
limber knotBOT
Probably only one or two packets per address
void void
hmm
now what if theoretically..
i were to make it port scan everything for minecraft protocols
...
limber knotBOT
You'd use ZMap to find the port open then use another tool to take that list and check if it's speaking MC protocol
void void
but there are servers running different ports
upper flicker
you arent really adding many more packets to throw in an mc ping
limber knotBOT
Scanning every port on every IPv4 address is a much larger dataset
Would take 65535 hours
(that's like 8 years)
acoustic pilot
Minecraft will probably still be around in 8 years, too. Lol
limber knotBOT
Or 65535 ec2 instances and an hour :P
pulsar wigeon
nah
void void
wait theoretically you can hook up two machines to scan in different directions
pulsar wigeon
hytale gonna take over LUL
void void
aka 2x faster
acoustic pilot
Shit's like this generation's Mario lol
void void
this is interesting
limber knotBOT
Although you'd probably get banned from EC2 and/or arrested
atomic marten
Minecraft java probably won’t be in 8 years
limber knotBOT
"Masscan is one of the fastest Internet port scanner as it can scan the all the IP’s of the Internet in less than 6 minutes, while transmitting 10 million packets per second"
So... 6 minutes then
That's still 273 days for every port though
The jar I had used Waterfall-super install didn't seem to have applied my change successfully, For example, the bungee.getLogger().log( Level.INFO,username+","+serverID) has no output, Am I building it wrong?
Also to go that fast you need a 10 gbps connection with a particular Intel NIC
acoustic pilot
Bring it down to a month with a compute setup with AWS or Google or something lol
atomic marten
You can use clusters of computers distributed
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atomic marten
Pls autocorrect
void void
inb4 smp live ip found
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DoD?
limber knotBOT
MILNET is a separate network
upper flicker
I wasnt counting milnet
theres plenty of addresses in those ranges even without all the spooky stuff
cosmic raft
minecraft via pidgeons
upper flicker
MC over tor
atomic marten
I2p would be better than tor
upper flicker
because I need my anonymity but damn I wanna play me some block game
they're both stupid
its a meme
atomic marten
They aren’t both stupid
static badge
can i get tor over discord
upper flicker
yeah if we're willing to move the goalposts to "are they stupid at all ever in genral"
the answer is clearly no
atomic marten
Minecraft needs to be on The blockchain
Also it is possible to have tor over discord
Not practical and would get shutdown really fast but is possible
I mean, you could theoretically transfer a file through discord voice chat
Should be able to a tor node that way
upper flicker
we will await your PoC write up on hackernews
limber knotBOT
u aint a real hacka until youve been featured on krebs
upper flicker
lel
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lel - z750
upper flicker
.spottedleaf
limber knotBOT
07:53 <+DiscordBot> <public transient Spottedleaf> went back under the see
upper flicker
- Spottedleaf
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which motherfucker is not mcdev fixing imports
upper flicker
there's probably more than one
limber knotBOT
what would your mother say if she knew how you talk?
static badge
would tell me to tell you to fuck off :>
limber knotBOT
i doubt it, i bet she'll slap you on the lips and tell you to go to bed
will you not obey your mother?
void void
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
atomic marten
are you actually wanting me to make a proof of concept
atomic marten
It’s a known method of steganography to hide data in audio
The speed will be god awful and unreliable but should he good enough for irc
static badge
well I'm too tired to continue fixing stuff so i'mma push my shit and yeah
wow that's a solid
11 hours
of fucking with patches
atomic marten
Over one eye?
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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cosmic raft
lol
It's also worth noting that an application other than Minecraft could be on that port, so don't assume it's Minecraft
hard kernel
hey how do i get it to show all the players in my bungee server instead of just the main server
on the server list
void void
i'm going to mc ping all of those sooo
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW
ubuntu server jesus christ
cosmic raft
torrent it instead lol
void void
i dont use utorrent
cosmic raft
I never said utorrent, I said torrent it. it'll download much, much faster
void void
wait but that requires a client
cosmic raft
Yes. The client you use it up to you.
static badge
mfw
void void
i fixed it fuck off
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irc doesn't forget it
void void
i fixed it for your convenience
irc will always remember
i may be a retard but im not a coward
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dats right ur a retarded coward
acoustic pilot
This appears to be built against 1.12, anyone know if it works in 1.13? https://github.com/lucko/helper
static badge
there appears to be some 1.13 work on it
hard heart
void void
like shat
void void
whats a shat
@austere ivy save a copy of the itemstack as a class field and just modify that instead of saving all the changes and modifying them in the build() method imo, but if it works it works
void void
to be clear its not actually shat
austere ivy
I could also make this more generic
austere ivy
instead of ItemBuilder it could be ItemModifier, and I could take in an ItemStack as a constuctor parameter, right?
void void
yeh why not
void void
ye
finite wave
Hmm
olive garden
he's also williams
void void
ive noticed a lot of people use forking to represent a bookmark even tho stars exis
olive garden
to be honest, it's probably a bot :D
void void
t
austere ivy
wait would that work
void void
would wat work
austere ivy
oh I was thinking you were saying return an ItemStack but then I'd be overriding
oh that doesn't make sense
you were just saying to save a copy of ItemStack and just return that on build?
void void
boy what
void void
@austere ivy https://pastebin.com/uxKH0ctK
olive garden
that's called wrapping
void void
im not showing jans recommendation, im showing my own
void void
and yes it is wrapping itemstack to provide a simple builder
finite wave
@austere ivy No? Implementing is a java thing
austere ivy
For a second before I thought you meant every time you call data() or name() or whatver, it would return a new itemstack and I'm like oh that's a good idea because then on any itemstack I could just do itemStack.data() and then I was like wait I'm not extending itemstack
my brain went on a little tangent there.
Jan yeah but afaik you can't implement a class, right? Or do you mean wrapping?
void void
wat....implementing is for implementing an interface, i.e. providing an implementation for a set of method definitions...extending is for adding functionality to something that may or may not yet have an implementation i.e. abstract class
adding/modifying
austere ivy
finite wave
ItemStack isn’t an interface?
austere ivy
Jan you said I could extend itemstack which I thought was an interesting idea then you said implement*
finite wave
Oh boi
void void
implementing something just means you are providing an implementation; extending can also be implementing something
not always but can
austere ivy
Huh.
void void
idk i feel like you thinking too hard, just remember we're all retards here
austere ivy
lol okay I'm going to get back to that
void void
honestly im fucking sleep deprived so if whatever i said doesnt make sense just ignore me
austere ivy
I think I like my first version better where it builds() at the end
I don't know why maybe it's incorrect
finite wave
Oki
void void
no i never said it was incorrect
finite wave
^
hollow kiln
void void
i just provided an imo
austere ivy
Making itemstack when you build() just makes more sense instead of modfiying.. That's a good idea, I could also make an ItemModifier.
void void
aka opinion
austere ivy
Because then I could new ItemBuilder(Material.DIRT).name("DIRTBOI").build() for making one.. then..
new ItemModifier(itemStack).name("RENAMED, BOI").build() for modifying one.
olive garden
why
finite wave
Lol
austere ivy
Or I could just overload ItemBuilder
austere ivy
I don't know I'm sleep deprived too <-<
finite wave
Nah you are just you last i checked
void void
yeah pls dont make 2 classes that do essentially the same thing just provide an overloaded constructor
kthx
olive garden
or just be sensible and copy and ItemBuilder, eg. mine
austere ivy
.. can I see yours?
olive garden
austere ivy
lol
before I had this mess of garbage:
public static ItemStack createItem(String name, Material material, int amount, int data, List<String> lore) {
ItemStack i = new ItemStack(material, amount);
ItemMeta im = i.getItemMeta();
for (int x = 0; x < lore.size(); x++) {
lore.set(x, TextUtils.color(lore.get(x)));
}
im.setDisplayName(TextUtils.color(name));
im.setLore(lore);
i.setDurability((short) data);
i.setItemMeta(im);
return i;
}
Absolutely horrifyingly awful.
I mean it's not too bad but then I did this:
void void
oh boy
austere ivy
public static ItemStack createItem(String name, Material material, int amount, int data) {
return createItem(name, material, amount, data, new ArrayList<>());
}
It's..
finite wave
That won’t work properly on 1.13
olive garden
no, don't continue
austere ivy
Blegh.
void void
oh...oh boy
austere ivy
Yeah it's bad.
finite wave
Durabulity is stored in the tag now
olive garden
@finite wave 1.13 is so yesterday
finite wave
So you are setting it then reverting it.
finite wave
I’m going to school so no drinking for me
olive garden
hahaha
void void
oh please thats the perfect time to drink @finite wave
finite wave
I wish
austere ivy
is hastebin working for you folks?
olive garden
no
olive garden
use hatebin I guess
austere ivy
vs this
On one hand, for the first "test" one I do like how you can supply an ItemStack and modify it, and then get it again.
olive garden
burn the 2nd one in fire
austere ivy
On the other hand, I do like how the second one does everything in the build()
I think I'll keep the first one
cosmic raft
just burn it all on fire
austere ivy
okay
I don't like how the second one does so many comparisons with null checks
wasting
and I just realized that it
yeah I'm keeping ifrst
ancient bolt
First one is not a builder
olive garden
public ItemBuilderTest unbreakable(Boolean unbreakable) {
ItemMeta itemMeta = itemStack.getItemMeta();
itemMeta.setUnbreakable(unbreakable);
itemStack.setItemMeta(itemMeta);
return this;
}
what
why is that a Boolean?
ancient bolt
unless you did return itemStack.clone(), assuming it has a clone method
olive garden
it does have a clone method
and why not store the ItemMeta in a variable as well?
and only call ItemStack#setItemMeta in the build method
that will make it a lot simpler
ancient bolt
But yeah 2nd one is the correct one
austere ivy
Huh.
See, my original instinct liked second one but second one also seems to be doing a lot of unnecessary if statements if you're not using everything.
Boolean because I forgot to change it to bool because I needed it as null originally in the other class.
ancient bolt
Do you think you have like an if-statement budget or something?
cosmic raft
itemstacks are annoying to use builders with
ancient bolt
Use too many and you aren't allowed to use any more?
cosmic raft
I just use consumers instead
austere ivy
More efficient the better, no harm in unnecessary efficiency I suppose.
olive garden
if you want to be efficient, use primitives
and use default values (eg. 1 for amount) instead of null
ancient bolt
Yeah those inefficient if-statements. Wasting NANOSECONDS
NANOSECONDS I TELL YOU
GONE
austere ivy
It's not going to make a giant difference but if you don't have to do something then there's not really a reason to.. Whatever.
I suppose I'll keep..
cosmic raft
public static ItemStack item(final Material material, final BiConsumer<ItemStack, ItemMeta> consumer) {
return item(new ItemStack(material), consumer);
}
public static ItemStack item(final Material material, final int count, final BiConsumer<ItemStack, ItemMeta> consumer) {
return item(new ItemStack(material, count), consumer);
}
public static ItemStack item(final ItemStack stack, final BiConsumer<ItemStack, ItemMeta> consumer) {
final ItemMeta meta = stack.getItemMeta();
consumer.accept(stack, meta);
stack.setItemMeta(meta);
return stack;
}
final ItemStack item = item(Material.PURPLE_BED, (stack, meta) -> {
stack.addEnchantment(Enchantment.ARROW_KNOCKBACK, 1);
meta.setDisplayName("Pretty Purple Bed");
});
magic
austere ivy
both
:>
ooh yikes almost caught leafititis there.
Let me observe them both more.
ancient bolt
Setting a single reference is the epitome of not slow
like
ugh
I need to go to sleep
austere ivy
Well that's the original reason I wanted to keep the second one.
Also what happened with GoT?
I don't watch it, some people are saying writers are bad.
finite wave
It ended
ancient bolt
George has written himself into a corner he doesn't know how to get out of
which is why his next book is taking 100 years to finish
the show runners needed to finish it anyways so went with his plans
and yeah they suck
Meanwhile george still hasn't figured out how to finish his next book because of the aforementioned corner he wrote himself into
limber knotBOT
how can one contribute to 114 paper?
austere ivy
also that
yeah
Leaf and Billy and I think Z7 and Kash are the main ones working on it, at least they're the ones most open about themselves working on it.
austere ivy
ah.
electronic, not kash.
public static List<String> createPage(int pageNumber, int maxPage, String type, String prefixKey, String multiKey) {
ConfigurationSection page = main.getConfig().getConfigurationSection(type + ".page" + pageNumber);
List<String> messages = new ArrayList<>();
messages.add(formatC(prefixKey, "msg_page", page.getString("topic"), pageNumber, maxPage));
for (String line : page.getStringList("content")) {
messages.add(prefixC(multiKey, line));
}
return messages;
}
Any idea on how I can fix this?
Maybe I shouldn't..
austere ivy
heck. yes.
void void
that was a mistake brian
olive garden
look into the getStringList method
void void
youre about to be destroyed
austere ivy
goodness, you're right
can you help me reprogram bukkit please
it's all unoptimized
olive garden
who needs getStringList?
just assume that it's a list of strings
if it's not, it's their fault
use quotation marks you stupid people
stiff yarrow
Brian do you even know what unoptimized looks like
austere ivy
yes
stiff yarrow
austere ivy
nossr
do you want me to show you my old code
Actually none of it is really that unoptimized
Badly written? Sure, yeah.
But none of it is like wildly using loops or anything..
void void
i know you do
olive garden
HTTP lookups are O(1), right?
btw, why don't you cache the page?
oih
maybe you do
then don't you dare to optimize it
void void
hAH nice TRY WEB GOBLIN. IM BEHIND 8 LEVELS OF CACHING
that was directed at nobody in particular i just wanted to say it
void void
my first level cache blocked that shit, please boi
finite wave
Brian stop being so retardedå
void void
yeah when people are actually smart
austere ivy
Advanced spam attacks are still spam attacks you know.
stiff yarrow
@austere ivy brian I don't care to see your bad code, anyones old code is going to be bad
austere ivy
Who said mine wasn't advanced? 
void void
because you aren't advanced
austere ivy
ow
void void
gonna cry? piss your pants maybe? shit maybe?
oh shit i forgot he's a kid
ok im good
void void
Wow, I just learned that Thanos' garden is the Banaue Rice Terraces!
Hell yeah! Philippines represent!
limber knotBOT
das y it luuked so ugleh den
void void
mfw the directors said "they searched everywhere and this was the most peaceful and beautiful setting they could find"
@vernal moth
finite wave
void void
solar otter
atomic kettle
final granite
deep shoal
is a squid a livingentity
void void
void void
is this 1.8....
void void
i havent checked yet because you said "it doesnt matter"
i dont care to help people who dont give all the details
good luck buddy
deep shoal
it was
i just checked
"catch velocity packets and cancel non living entities"
doesn't make sense to me
native thunder
Isn't it faster to just comment on the issue and ask him to clarify?....
Instead of asking in an unrelated discord and asking for us to interpret it lol
native thunder
It's fixed in newer version so clearly he has some idea of what he's doing right?
void void
lib is a great dev, maybe he was drunk and replying to github issues instead of facebook comments (a smart decision!)
native thunder
void void
me: looking for lighter
cant find one
me: grabs torch
this will do
first time i've rebuilt a coil in a while....forgot to prime the coil and actually test the heat distribution and put cotton in first, which is probably going to fuck me here pretty quickly but we'll see...
vestal jasper
upper flicker
feel like they wouldnt appreciate that
quasi valley
or they think his name is Bichael
gloomy sphinx
lol was not expecting that
cedar spade
inb4 velocity plug
quasi valley
imagine running your proxies and servers through a cloud, which would make getting logs just an ever so slight pita... then I'd consider it :p
cedar spade
what do you mean it's not a great idea to send raw packets back to players in chat when things break?
gloomy sphinx
it was because I didnt update waterfall to the latest for 1.14
gloomy sphinx
you probably drink tea
void void
im drinking ipa and orange juice
gloomy sphinx
disgusting
quasi valley
what's ipa 👀
void void
india pale ale?
gloomy sphinx
whatever plugins youve developed simple i hope 1.15 breaks them all
quasi valley
I hope both of you step on a lego brick
void void
assuming i actually give a shit about minecraft and am not here for the disgusting community and trolling
merry talon
there are plenty of places to pipe your logs to
there's a whole industry for this
pretty much every cloud provider has one
quasi valley
we use sentry as our reporting tool, but doesn't always help in specific situations
merry talon
sentry only really does one thing
but some services have command line programs that you can quite literally pipe everything to
quasi valley
we don't dump excetions into the chat or anything, it's just that I can see why you'd do that at some point :D
void void
LMAO
"this doesnt end up with riding into the sunset it ends with me dying of cancer and you winning the icebox award"
"for softest mouth"
- deadpool, to a maybe 13 year old kid
merry talon
there a way to handle uncaught exceptions from every plugin?
limber knotBOT
yes, its hacky tho
merry talon
@cosmic raft why
cosmic raft
for labelling things
limber knotBOT
void void
like a true hero
merry talon
ah
void void
limber knotBOT
take a look at that sweepy
cosmic raft
@merry talon https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAF0Y8364005
see
look how nice it is
now compare it to a more "consumer-friendly" one: https://m.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/dymo-lectratag-labeller-plus-lt-100h-personal-label-maker-1-carded-21456/13365655
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olive garden
I have a very important question: is La Rochelle famous?
merry talon
ah yes I needed this
cosmic raft
.g la rochelle
limber knotBOT
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cosmic raft
@mortal imp
golden gust
Was more a fan of the first, but 2 was still great
void void
honestly i just love ryan reynolds
merry talon
haven't seen 2 yet
void void
and his "dont give a fuck" attitude
merry talon
yeah I'm gonna see that for sure
void void
is that supposed to be funny or what cause all ive seen are memes and im not sure anymore
merry talon
and sonic just because you gotta
golden gust
void void
okay works for me
i thought they were aimed at kids tho
so i was not going to see either one
merry talon
sonic fans aren't kids anymore
void void
but i may now
golden gust
p' much
void void
that's true.....oh god...oh fuck...
what did you just say sweepy
fuck you
giving me existential crises
golden gust
simple is old lol
merry talon
void void
i swear to god yesterday i was eating waffles and watching spongebob and now im sitting here at 2am drinking, smoking old weed and laughing at deadpool cutting people's heads off
idk what happened in between though
merry talon
you could still be doing the former
golden gust
Stream or you didn't do it
I mean, erm... No, simple, don't harm yourself, we lo... we'd mi... erm....
kind shoal
twin zenith
golden gust
watches as everything breaks
void void
void void
aight im bored :\
late flare
void void
im not even smashed lmao
merry talon
sounds like something a smashed person would say
cosmic raft
void void
void void
ye pls
void void
wtf
merry talon
lol
void void
give me
pulsar wigeon
are you running a coupon laundering business?
pulsar wigeon
sounds like something someone running a coupon laundering business would say
upper flicker
now you just need a neighbor who works for a graph paper supply company
cosmic raft
I wish Z
merry talon
dunder mifflin?
void void
ALL your paper supply needs
void void
uses graph paper as toilet paper
tardy lynx
makes fork of paper called ToiletPaper
native thunder
Draw your own graph paper
void void
thats so original
cosmic raft
lol
tardy lynx
when's 1.14.1 out?
void void
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
tardy lynx
i mean vanilla
limber knotBOT
snacks on @TriaticMonkey's dismembered body.
tardy lynx
...
cosmic raft
hi @void void :))
void void
hi qt
cosmic raft
what's up
void void
watching yew t00b
cosmic raft
I see
cosmic raft
hi!
void void
❤️❤️
cosmic raft
♥️
void void
Today is a beautiful day, the sun is hot, the sea is beautiful
And only kashike can make it even better
cosmic raft
:D
nimble isle
native thunder
Wow get a room
native thunder
Have some decency jeez
void void
I just woke up
cosmic raft
bacon
cosmic raft
where do you live
golden gust
I mean, you act like you have it all
void void
Odessa, ukraine
cosmic raft
that sucks
cosmic raft
good luck my darling
cosmic raft
@native thunder we're in a channel here already can't you see??
nimble isle
Nobody:
My Mind: "Add porn for extra convienience"
void void
Is there a way I can hide the seed from showing in console as the server starts? Users are able to stop the server and start, not issue commands etc yet I don't want them to know the seed.
void void
Is there any way?
finite wave
Why would u
void void
There's à lot of ways to calculate seed
cosmic raft
No, not without patching it out. I'd recommend finding s way to hide the log instead
void void
Alright thanks kashike
finite wave
It’s a stupid idea though
bold zephyr
tbh a lot of server owners want to hide seeds
finite wave
Not really worth it though
void void
@kashike I got it
finite wave
What are they supposed to do it?
bold zephyr
i dont let players see the seed because i rather they explore and take time than use "seed finder" things
cosmic raft
oooh
bold zephyr
e.g. slime chunks, villages, water temples, fortresses, strongholds
finite wave
But you can calculate the seed fairly easy
bold zephyr
sure but that takes effort and at least average intelligence
void void
Most won't go out of their way to find it
bold zephyr
lol
void void
Yeah
nimble isle
just found paper, got a few questions. Sooo spigot is pretty bad for techincal minecraft because it skips ticks if its overloaded as far as i know. Chunk loaders dont work too. How good is paper with redstone machinery ?
golden gust
We take some of the hits from upstream, and skipping ticks is normal for MC basically
acoustic pilot
Paper is built on top of Spigot, so Spigot's "flaws" often exist in Paper, too.
golden gust
CB breaks some edge-case mechanics, Spigot afaik breaks a few more, and we intentionally aim for performance
finite wave
There is no performance flaws if the server doesn’t work **
golden gust
That would be a fun asshole move
Create a server jar which just doesn't start, all performance/bug reports must be reproduced on that build
= no valid issue reports = win
cosmic raft
😂
void void
Create à jar that says blâme mojang
nimble isle
hmm ok so I guess something like that is rather problematic? 😅 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mu3uYT-NaE&
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bold zephyr
something like that looks like it should stay in singleplayer anyway
nimble isle
they use in on the scicraft server. But it got many specifc restrictions to where you are allowed to be while it operates
golden gust
I wanna say that we fixed that specific bug
cosmic raft
I rate 8/8
finite wave
Paper has no bugs what u talking about
void void
paper will probably be just as bad or worse for technical
since it's a fork of spigot
At least it will be as bad or worse for technical but with playable tps
😂
acoustic pilot
Paper focuses strongly on performance. Increasing performance often comes at the expense of sacrificing aspects of gameplay, most of them are usually unnoticable or most people aren't exploiting them for any technicality.
twilit narwhal
obtuse lotus
void void
Or at least the settings that are noticable are disabled by default iirc
nimble isle
Hmm thx a lot anyway! Do you happen to know any projects specifically designed to improve "technical minecraft performance"?
bold zephyr
none
acoustic pilot
There is zero such projects that I know of.
bold zephyr
none at all
void void
golden gust
We make stuff configurable where viable, a lot of stuff just isn't or ain't worth the maintence effort
void void
Got it !!
nimble isle
dammnn
upper flicker
when you go about screwing with the internals you inherently change the way the game operates
obtuse lotus
Is it me or is 1.13 entities slower than 1.8.8?
acoustic pilot
People playing multiplayer tend not to care about 100% vanilla compatibility
void void
maybe theres something for forge servers? idk
upper flicker
mojang changed some of the internal list implementations a while ago
golden gust
Known issue, 1.13 derp'd collisions
upper flicker
some of the "uber technicals" are very upset
if mojang cant even keep it consistent idk how anyone else really can
golden gust
wonder how they feel about 1.13 lol
acoustic pilot
There's simply no audience for 100% vanilla multiplayer, which is why no performance server exists for it.
golden gust
1.14 i mean
obtuse lotus
So 1.13 entities have fucked up collisions?
upper flicker
cant keep it up long enough to test on anyway
void void
1.13 performance... 😂😂
golden gust
The collision checks on 1.13 are much worse than 1.12
Apparently fixed in 1.14, but not tested, but apparently it's better
nimble isle
well I guess thats true. The technical minecraft comunity is rather small 🤔
cosmic raft
Yummy
golden gust
The issue is is that vanilla doesn't really scale
nimble isle
true
acoustic pilot
A lot of those Minecraft technicalities are the reason why the game performs so badly or doesn't scale lol
void void
acoustic pilot
So it's a bit counter-productive to not patch them/fix them
nimble isle
can barely run a 10 man server on high performance gear
acoustic pilot
If your goal is performance.
pulsar wigeon
kashike: any clue why https://github.com/EngineHub/WorldEdit/commit/1c54a04fd10063912be19fb8b4aa9ab264908daa#diff-be3734b3a486b729766f350e8b7c7b29 would cause the entire bukkit api to get shaded in our jar?
acoustic pilot
Like for example redstone physics updates, in vanilla are highly inefficient but are a technical detail some contraptions rely on
obtuse lotus
Even with entity collisions disabled @golden gust ?
nimble isle
1.14 vanilla performance right now is absolutely horrible
cosmic raft
@pulsar wigeon bukkit text adapter depends on bukkit, the "shade" configuration probably includes transitive
pulsar wigeon
shouldn't that uh
golden gust
Collision checks in general are slower
cosmic raft
Just disable transitive dependencies for the adapter
pulsar wigeon
i thought that's the point of java-library's api/impl
acoustic pilot
Shading includes transitives by default even in Maven, don't you have to explicitly exclude the transitive?
golden gust
No idea how much disabling entity collisions would actually help specifically as it's not always entity > entity collisions
cosmic raft
I'm half asleep right now wiz
pulsar wigeon
hence the question
acoustic pilot
It would make more sense if the bukkit adapter doesn't depend on bukkit with runtime/compile scope, instead use provided?
void void
it was block collisions from waht i could tell in 1.13
the weird system of bounding boxes
pulsar wigeon
text 3.0 switched from the normal gradle compile/compileOnly to java-library api/implementation specifiers
not sure if that's the cause but that might be?
idk
cosmic raft
Yeah, disable transitive dependencies for the adapter when shading
acoustic pilot
basically bukkit shouldn't be a transitive dependency
so it's a problem that should be fixed in the bukkit adapter lib where it's being transitively recognized
acoustic pilot
the way it sounded like was that the adapter lib was transitively including bukkit, so the project depending on the adapter ended up shading bukkit 😛
obtuse lotus
@golden gust sorry for tagging you, but we have this problem for all entities which is eating up performance: https://i.imgur.com/laYXqUw.png
Is there no way to improve this at all?
acoustic pilot
in which case that would be a problem with the adapter lib
and not the lib depending on the adapter
void void
Collisions @obtuse lotus ?
limber knotBOT
[Me4502] It seems that the java-library stuff just isn't making it non-transitive tbh
bold zephyr
@obtuse lotus he legit just told you 1.13 entities are laggy af
you fix it by removing entities
obtuse lotus
Removing entities on a survival server is not an option so I just want to explore all options
void void
1.13 nms is garbage in term of performance
bold zephyr
options explored
void void
That's something known
void void
Blâme mojang.. For réal this time
cosmic raft
I'll look into it when I wake up; for now I'd just make it non-transitive in your project
might be a problem with the maven plugin and java-library
acoustic pilot
@cosmic raft Tested real quick https://i.imgur.com/mPQuoIU.png
spigot-api shouldn't be showing up there, it's probably why it's being shaded in
acoustic pilot
not sure about Gradle Shadow, but in Maven, IIRC runtime gets shaded in
let me test real quick
acoustic pilot
@cosmic raft Yeah runtime gets shaded in
pulsar wigeon
well, we're using gradle anyway
cosmic raft
well that's annoying
acoustic pilot
In Maven, the solution would be to mark it provided, not entirely sure what the equivalent in Gradle is.
pulsar wigeon
compileOnly
acoustic pilot
provided = won't be transitive.
pulsar wigeon
which it was in 2.0
but in 3.0 it's java-library's "implementation"
which doesn't actually function the same as "compileOnly"
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
🤔🤔🤔
pulsar wigeon
also i can't figure out how to set this to be non-transitive without breaking things
and i have to get to work
void void
Why would you change such an important keyword ?
cosmic raft
@pulsar wigeon I'll make another release of the adapters to fix this
acoustic pilot
In Gradle Shadow I don't think you can exclude a single dependency and all of its child deps, they all have to be manually excluded
Unless that recently changed.
So you may end up having to manually exclude every transitive of the spigot-api dependency lol
void void
Does anyone know how can I play YouTube vidéos while being on discord on Android ?
acoustic pilot
It'd def be much easier for it to be fixed in text-adapter-bukkit, it should be up to the including project to specify the bukkit/spigot artifact any way
cosmic raft
acoustic pilot
Obligatory: Gradle sucks 😄
void void
but it's worth it to avoid xml
acoustic pilot
Maven may be more rigid, but damn if it's not simple for 99% of use cases lol
cosmic raft
no, mistake on my part, copied the wrong configuration name
@pulsar wigeon adapters for 3.0.1 released - only adapters. rest is 3.0.0
acoustic pilot
dang, lucko's helper using kyori text 1.11-1.3.0 whatever that is lol
assuming old as fuck
acoustic pilot
@jade mountain plas 2 halp
void void
kashike this spigot adapter is beautiful
cosmic raft
hehe
@acoustic pilot https://github.com/KyoriPowered/text-extras/blob/master/adapter-bukkit/src/main/java/net/kyori/text/adapter/bukkit/SpigotAdapter.java
the hacks here are wonderful
void void
goodnight
acoustic pilot
wow, no bukkit adapter, so no glowstone support. worst text lib ever!
false advertisement!
cosmic raft
because bukkit doesn't support sending JSON-based text through the API
:p
good point though @acoustic pilot
can you open an issue? https://github.com/KyoriPowered/text-extras/issues/new
acoustic pilot
lol who cares about glowstone 😛
golden gust
I know, but still 😛
finite wave
golden gust
I really just wanna see Byte suffer
upper flicker
no u
cedar spade
doesn't the Spigot adapter work on Glowstone?
I thought it had the Bungee chat API, no idea if it's actually implemented or not though
swift oyster
merry talon
why does that github link have to show an obnoxious huge thumbnail
which plugin are people using nowadays?
finite wave
The one with the proper image
golden gust
Discord integration is what I use
merry talon
yeah that seems to be the one
obtuse lotus
Is it theoretically possible to implement 1.14s entity fixes into 1.13?
finite wave
Why
static badge
we're aiming to obsolete 1.13
golden gust
People have done stuff to improve performance there afaik, but not looked into it
obtuse lotus
Yes he is Ineusia so drop the attitude.
bold zephyr
1.13 and 1.14 are trash for performance
if paper could of fixed entities, im sure they would of months ago
merry talon
I thought I remembered there was a way to hide the project name
cedar spade
we should all downgrade to 1.2.5 best version
cedar spade
I bought the game when 1.1 was out
obtuse lotus
@golden gust Dont suppose you know where I could find these attempts?
cedar spade
At the time I thought I was late to the party :p
golden gust
There was some discussion on some other discord about it, never had the time to track what they did or if they actually released anything public, or how viable it even would be to add those to paper
Eigen craft
obtuse lotus
What is Eigen craft?
golden gust
obtuse lotus
cheers
pulsar wigeon
where tf are text-extras published
org.gradle.internal.resolve.ModuleVersionNotFoundException: Could not find net.kyori:text-adapter-bukkit:3.0.1.
golden gust
central
pulsar wigeon
we ded
surreal moth
plz reaction:
do u use commandblock?
yes: 
no: 
pulsar wigeon
https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/net/kyori/text-adapter-bukkit/ guess it takes time to publish?
or kashike's CI ded
idk
golden gust
Well, am confusion, actually
chrome snow
golden gust
Ah, it's sync'd every so often or something iirc, somehow I managed to pull it much earlier than it was showing up in that repo there
golden gust
That only grabs -SNAPSHOT builds
pulsar wigeon
oic
well, old ones anyway
oh, it's there now
pokes teamcity a bit
tfw not logged in on work laptop
nice, shaved 2mb off our jar. all is fixed.
maybe i should start paying attention to the meeting i'm in now
upper flicker
naaaaaaah
pulsar wigeon
you're right, it's a load of BS
feral patrol
void void
Tfw you work for free on a community project and your boss think you're dedicated enough to the company to continue to code during the meetings
😂😂😂
near heron
void void
austere ivy
1.2.5 is where I started too
unreal quarry
1.2.5 was best version
quasi valley
I remember me reinstalling Mc right around 1.2/3 on my mother’s laptop, the first time with a seed and out of nowhere I spawned on a jungle, so I assumed the seed just created an entirely new biome 👀
austere ivy
ruby 👏 dung 👏
I'm in agony. This is awful.
I just pulled 1/2 an inch of gunk out of my eye, pink eye is no fun. And I have too much experience with it, I got it like 5 times in one year, no fun.
unreal quarry
Well, I no longer want breakfast. Thanks, Brian, for helping me lose weight
austere ivy
No problem, bBilly.
If you'd like it locally to prevent you eating, for the entire time you have it, simply be me, and magically get it once a month.
unreal quarry
I hear you can give someone pink eye by farting on their pillow
static badge
hear you can get cancer by being near someone
upper axle
1.14 no update?
unreal quarry
.eta
ocean ether
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
unreal quarry
See #announcements
ocean ether
😂
upper axle
all right
golden gust
@static badge tried flightgear? Assuming MSes is much better?
static badge
no clue about flightgear
upper axle
So what dows ETA stand for
static badge
estimated time of arrival
upper axle
thx
austere ivy
spiders are wonderful
mainly jumping spiders
I've been a loyal subscriber of r/spiderbros for a year 👀
thick trellis
austere ivy
Welcome o/
wide chasm
Was that spider really necessary? I hate spiders.... 😦
austere ivy
what
okay yeah some are creepy and I wouldn't touch them myself
but look at the one above
that's a jumping spider, they literally can't bite you
upper flicker
just remember they eat the annoying bugs
wide chasm
That doesn't make them less scary
austere ivy
even if they wanted to, look at them!
they don't really like to bite things either.
golden gust
austere ivy
Sometimes they also do little dances!
limber knotBOT
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austere ivy
It's adorable
upper axle
who knows if any spider is toxic if u r not a professional
austere ivy
yes that's a jumping spider too
wide chasm
I'm not exaggerating when I say that I'm not looking at my screen now.
acoustic pilot
only thing missing is some snakes
austere ivy
I wish I got jumping spider in my area, we don't get them much.
static badge
.g big honking snakes
limber knotBOT
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static badge
oh yes
wide chasm
That's a large snake
austere ivy
Stef, don't worry.
Just subscribe to r/spiderbro and peek a bit more every day.
They're cute, they eat mosquitos, and they let them pet you.
Other than their sometimes terrifying looks, they're quite nice.
wide chasm
I'd rather have a dog to pet than a spider tbh