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Link?
well, without looking at every commits
I have no idea of the changes between 1.9 and 1.14 except the major changes
I don't think Spigot releases any kind of changelog.
It releases commits so good enough
this may be a stupid question but how do I get the InventoryView
events
.getView
@safe tide from the inventory itself
It's only accessible when someone is actually looking at the inventory.
So the events and I think HumanEntity/Player may have a method.
@wide chasm Does if still use InventoryHolders?
just checked the jdoc, he's right
Yes IF still uses InventoryHolders.
Well I have an inventoryclickevent and I need the view
Grrat
InventoryClickEvent#getView iirc
yes
all inventory events have getview
click, drag, close... as long as they inherit from InventoryEvent
They really should make this stuff way more known
Hmm I'm considering using password manager. What do you think about LastPass?
KeePassXC
I'm currently using it, it's pretty good, but I haven't used anything else.
I stopped using lastpass and replaced it with bitwarden a while back
and free
been very happy
why did you switch from lastpass?
there was a browser support issue that I think has been resolved
but bitwarden is FOSS
so all the better
havent found a reason to move back
Are you using the sync feature @upper flicker
I don't like the "clouded" password managers
I use something completly offline and backup myself the file
I am
their encryption is solid, theyve been audited
I trust their server more than I trust mine
as long as it's not sha1 I don't really care about audits
all Im going to do is take an encrypted DB and put it on gdrive or onedrive anyway
yeah
@upper flicker I'm using lastpass and it seems good so far, but kashike told me to switch to some other thing I forgot the name of
I mean, the account factor of these things scares me
for example if the company disappear or you can't login because the servers are off
or anything basically
yeah thats a valid concern
all their stuff is open source, you can host your own or use theirs
so if they die at the very least I wont lose anything
do they provide a docker image or something ?
I use BitWarden
I definitely see why people use the simpler stuff though
@void void I have my randomized passwords backed up IRL (wrote them down)
right now I stick on KeePassXC
put in a safe
@stiff yarrow god

less moving parts is always good
KeePassXC is solid iirc
if you dont need/want sync, I dont see a problem with it
I need the syncing aspect because I just have too many devices
yup
same
I'll remember about that name if I want something that syncs one day
so if I was using keepass I'd just be putting the DB up somewhere anyway
yeah obviously
hows the browser integration it ?
I don't even use browser integration
just curious
keepassxc has keepasshttp but I don't use it
sounds good
cli of bitwarden looks good as well
is there an easy way to xfer my passwords over is the question
wait

do you need to keep a node app running on the background for the browser extension to work?
the browser provides the runtime
nice
like most other password manager extensions
now I just have to not be lazy
node to compile it probably
^
yes
NPM == NODE
no, it's compiling in node
well
the addon itself doesn't use node
I understand myself
it's like saying bukkit requires maven
I was thinking it could need a local websocket server or whatever to communicate to the extension
like, to build it you need maven. but when it's built, you no longer need maven
(technically npm isn't building, gulp is, but that's another matter)
just realized it was a run build
I only tried node a few times in my life don't hurt me 😭
looks like I will be using Bitwarden
I'm tempted too
its free
but even with the import feature
so if you hate it
I'm too lazy
its not like youre out anything
time^
You can also if you are paranoid increade the encryption runs.
if I set up in local without remote and get conviced, can I just enable remote easily ?
no idea
you could try it, just not import anything until youre satisfied its not syncing
its main thing is kind of the whole sync feature afaik
so idk
yeah
I havent used keepassXC specifically but if youre happy and dont need the whole sync thing idk what your motivation for leaving is
browser extensions?
tbh thats whats kind of turned me off from having a clipboard history
I still end up copy pasting sensitive stuff like passwords and I dont want to have to manage it
it'd be nice if there was a system or API or something to flag certain pastes as secure and not remember them
but there isnt so you either have to micromanage the history (which for me defeats the purpose entirely) or not use it
deleted from your clipboard
not from wherever app you got it from
which would be perfectly fine with me
or you could have a separate clipboard entirely for that
my linux desktop has at least two clipboards already
which is fun sometimes
how does that work anyways
Xorg has a clipboard
the Window manager has a clipboard
there are tools to keep them in sync
otherwise you end up with occasionally oddities like ctrl+v not matching shift+insert
idk if wayland attempts to mimic this behavior or what
will have to check that when I get home
lol
Oh god
as relevant as ever
Ivan is back
LEL
Just reapply patches 4Head
Is getCommand case sensitive btw?
I miss ivan
listening to his bullshit
was funny
where do I go for my latest ivan updates?
someone make a blog
Shoulda told him to make a PR if he thinks it's that easy lol
He isn't banned on Codevision, so invite him there.
guys he had to merge once
hes an expert
GIT GOD
👼
probably was an automatic merge with no conflicts too

Ivan's conflicts resolve themselves
pretty sure he lost his shit at the thought of his plugin needing to cleanup his async tasks before disable too
I must've missed that 
we've lost so many resident dumbos
its sad
can we stop banning dumbos
I miss them

If you just delete everything inside master before merging, you never have merge conflicts.
I’m still here @stiff yarrow
yeah but you don't quite satisfy that arrogance and ignorance combination
Yes i do, retard.
Fixed
can we ban him from there too?
50$
sold
but it has to be a complete dictionary of everything he said
or you don't get 50 bucks

bonus points if the bot acts arrogant
You can get @wicked remnant to train a neural network over his messages
He tried once on his own but fucked it up.
we can make a new ivan
a better ivan 
bonus points if the bot can debunk everything it says on its own
like it will repeat ivan's statements and then immediately research the material on its own and debunk it

Love his first message today
that makes me want to stab a baby
specifically, mrivanplays 11 years ago, i assume
bro you posted that 5 mins ago
fake news
I want fresher ivan content
not this stale stuff
I need an ivan bodycam
Yea, he already has enough stale stuff from mcmmo
Oh i do
runs
hey now its not my fault the guys I left in charge literally dropped the project 
MrIvanPlays#2830
I'm so tempted to put it back in but only have it target players named Z750
daddy needs to sell more mcMMO to fund the research and development costs
of copy pasting the code back in
@stiff yarrow you can even use my UUID now to assure that no innocents get hit in the crossfire
currently looking to hire ivan for it

master copy paster
Other plugins have daily releases
I’ll hire him for you
it's that easy
you got me there 
The plugins with daily releases are retarded
Like, no plugin makes enough money for that
but you make more money due to that ;)
I know better obviously
@finite wave 
Well i can just upload the same thing with the some bugs fixed
I've been pung
how much money would you have to make with a plugin to justify daily releases Jan
just wondering

And yeah I used an LSTM to reproduce messages from me
Well I tried to replace ivan
@stiff yarrow Enough to justify using every day on it.
I forget if the source is public or not, if you want I can make it public

Just auto-deploy to Spigot resources.
and you're sure no plugin makes that much 
It's not that hard.
@stiff yarrow Any good plugins*
Nossr50 Rubba can make that neural thing over Ivans messages for a lot of $
Ill give him $5, a dominos coupon, and 3 skittles
I never said it was good lol, I only had like 30k messages on that discord at the time so I guess I could trainbit again now that I have around 110k
Make one for MrIvanPlays#2830
I said the most I'd do is make the source public lol
lol jan gonna take the $5 and the coupon as a finders fee
going by what you said Jan, enough to live on could be something like 1k a month
so I think quite a few make that
1k a month is plenty if you can sort out housing with a roommate or something
@stiff yarrow Nah 1k is low as fuck
2k then?
10k or no deal
hey folks - this used to work back in 1.12 and 1.13 syntax has changed a bunch - anyone know what it should be now?
execute @e[type=Player] ~ ~ ~ detect ~ ~ ~ grass_path 0 effect @s speed 1 2
Goal is simply to add speed boost to anyone standing on a path block.
if you need 10k to live on its time to move out of hollywood
execute as @e[type=Player] if block ~ ~-1 ~ minecraft:grass_path run effect @s minecraft:speed 1 2
@eternal steeple Try this, haven't tested it though.
thank you will test now.
hello
execute as @e[type=minecraft:player] at @s if block ~ ~-1 ~ minecraft:grass_path run effect give @s minecraft:speed 1 2
Small syntax change but that works thank you 😃
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Just looked through 1.14 source code a bit. It might not be relevant right now but as far as i can see, anti-xray should be easy to update this time.
Would appreciate to help if necessary. Just contact me when the time comes.
um what
didnt you just say it should be easy, why not just reach out for help when you need it
I've no plans to perform the anti-xray patch :>
just letem xray smh
Stfu, leaf.
Thanks for the info Billy!
5 tps!? Howww low can we go :D
Unpopular opinion: When plugins stop functioning, players should report this instead of assuming I disabled it without telling anyone. 
looks legible to me
not exactly sure if i should have all arguments on separate lines lel
is that Java?
no, Javascript
okay because I was thinking that's some odd looking Java
lel i bet there's a framework which makes java look like that
i just run things through a code prettyfier
let me introduce you fine folks to the wonders of alt+cmd+L
IntelliJ just fixes up your code formatting for you.
I spam it 5-6 times every minute 👀
you just figured that out?
i just have a macro which is called BetterSave
No xD
and then i bind it to Ctrl S
whats intellij smh
smh my head
ctrl+s? that wont save
E C L I P S E
N O
whats eclipse?
try alt+cmd+O too. it reorganizes your imports (and is even nice enough to get rid of ones not in use)
oh wait you're a nano user aren't you
1 an obscuring of the light from one celestial body by the passage of another between it and the observer or between it and its source of illumination: an eclipse of the sun.
json hackers
textedit > notepad
Personally, I just use good ol'; C-x M-c M-butterfly
😠
❤ emacs
Nah, I'm jk, I'm a vum user
Here we go again™
*vim
i happily use neovim, but if i lived in my editor, i would use emacs
I was going to make a joke about emacs OS a good year or so ago, and figured I'd do my research first...
I like vm
.g EmacsOS
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I mean I kinda have to like VIM
It's been on my computer open for 5 years
I can't figure out how to close it
it tells you when you open it
I mean, people use emacs as a window manager, and use some emacs email client and stuff...
like, it does actually tell you
if its still there then wipe it
But the best part? evil-mode...
pffft who reboots their computer
windows users
So, basically, "emacs is a great text editor, just make sure that you've got another text editor to use" 
minecraft modding can end horribly
Not if you open a file with it
vi > vim
It only tells you that if you run it without a file iirc
if you open a file with an editor you dont know how to use I have no sympathy for you
opengl can end up crashing your display driver if you aren't careful btw
so be wary
still dont understand why it happens
read the man pages then
shows to use :help
first thing in help shows how to close it
piping man into less
just using man is like that on macos
Sup ladies
check your facts m8
I mean I never noticed that on my mac
Riot is better than Discord
but everything else on the mac is fucking 5 years old
really?
mfw defending vim
so I suppose the man binary being that old and needing some poor workaround like isnt surprising
what came first, vim or cancer
the only cancer is your discord profile picture
z
i use vim because its simple
ur cancer
there's not even any litter box there
simple
I’d tell u what came first but I don’t want you to get upset
this chat is a litter box
time to move to binary keyboards
o oops who put that there
this chat is a litter box and you are shitting in it
someone will need to clean it up
😂😂 hope you guys are having a good dAy. Sry had to
It’s just an editor
@MegaVPrime We are hoping to release a test build either the end of this week, or beginning of next.
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how long have you been stuck in vim
Noss that's called stockholme syndrome
You've been unable to quit vim for so long that you're starting to learn how to use it
using vim
dont mind the youngins. they dont remember when vi was all we had
you're also legitimately retarded
Im also legitimately still in this room
vim 
everyone knows that notepad is the best editor.
I mean those features are just irreplaceble
the best one is line shuffling
20 years later they did finally make it able to handle real line endings
so you know they have that going for them now at least
ah crlf
wait what notepad just started handling lines properly
spotted kind of low key disappointed you aren't a vim elitist
I think someone listens to this chat
I was disappointed to find that u were a filthy weeb
it looks like that cat is shitting tbh
is it me or is that getting bigger each time
was that the intention
leaf?
yea
wtf do you think I chose this for
it's next level bait :>
masterbaiter
ur a furry @static badge
vic ur literally a filthy weeb
Again, at least I'm attracted to humans 
mfw
Also
"I was just worried we might make you seem special if we leave you with a color and stuff"
"And well, that would be an horrific representation of us, imho"
gives leaf a colored role
turns out ur weeb trash ways are worse than my leaf ways
ok retard 
ur retarded

the lack of ETA announcements makes me hate tacos, kittens, taylor swift and the smell of burnt leaves
.eta
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
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it was 3deep5me
Oi
PlayerInteractEvent now has useItemInHand and useInteracedBlock instead of isCancelled
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from Mariana's web
is it what you can call deepweb?
it's deeper
deeper than your love even?
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blame discord tbh
I blame irc
how do you want to explain to *normal* people how to use ||markdown||
ok
yes
HOW?!
very funny
Okay new challenge for non-programmers: escape that shit so that symbols appear
I bet you can't orange text```
yes i gave up
I bet you can't cyan text
if only it were blue
well cyan?
i can gif
close enough
[This is a for statement]
@elder sable
why is discord so inconsistent
blue messages in my test server are red here
???
There, blue
sure
@slim nymph send this
Already know how pings work 
no
oh god
what have you done
https://github.com/KettleFoundation/Kettle this just showed up in my github recommendations
ah yes add another link to a broken chain
looks the same to me
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Wait a fucking minute
There was an annoying ass player who used to be on a server I played on who had Leaf in his name
he's spottedleaf confirmed
hm?
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Anybody seen an error like this on 1.14 before?
Welcome to 1.14 
and there is a LOT of issues
god I hate intellij
private static boolean isInSuper(final PsiClass zuper, final PsiClass search) {
PsiClass superTarget = search;
while(superTarget != null) {
if(superTarget.equals(zuper)) {
return true;
}
for(final PsiClass anInterface : superTarget.getInterfaces()) {
if(isInSuper(zuper, anInterface)) {
return true;
}
}
superTarget = superTarget.getSuperClass();
}
return false;
}
this is ugly
@static badge you love generics
do you love long class names too?
net.kyori.kraken.inspection.UnnecessarilyQualifiedInnerClassAccessWithinHierarchyInspection
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the one on the opposite page is even better
twins in the hips, already wearing diapers
this bot is malfunctioning, not authentic enough
Is the current 1.14 version of paper better than base spigot?
tbh i'd rather use nothing over using spigot, so let's go with yes
There is no 1.14 version of paper at the moment, nor should anybody be using 1.14 for that matter
in fact, i'd rather be using nothing over using 1.14 at all
It's not finished
How bad would the performance be if I ran a plain vanilla snapshot server
1.14 is not stable
With 16 GB of ram
I have had world corruption on my dev server
1.14 has pretty critical game stopping bugs (literally)

You will end up with map corruption, basically
Yep. Can be easily reproduced as well
Yes, of course
An American classic
god this code is disgusting
Im actually imagining how it would feel to get a pizza massage
Would be an interesting experience
Where is this mythical place
Thai spicy pizza massage
Fucking Seagate
My NAS is full of WD reds, which seem to be fine enough
The Microsoft surface laptop has a 40% sale in my local electronics store, that might actually be a decent deal lol
Seagate has pretty bad rep for drive longevity
6% of spigot servers with bstats enabled are 1.14 
How did you do that?
while ago
hard work and dedication
ok
so close to getting my own dingus banner 
I'm the 6% Vicarious :)
crap i have seagate drives
Tons of crashes, can't wait for paper
and they're 5 years old
@tame pendant on 1.14 crashes wont be fixed until 1.14.1 😃 that statistic should really be 0%

the fluid tick crash
ConcurrentMapException while ticking world caused by fluids doing something
i looked at why it was happening but i coulnt wrap my head around it
I mean, it should have fewer crashes at least. But yeah 1.14.1 is what I'm really waiting for
Looks like Ive already voted for that one hehe
I can't believe they released it without patching that one
It's a world gen issue, I forgot the exact path to it but basically something in world gen ends up modifying the next tick list queue
But, it's one of those things you'll only really hit if you start running around and hit some specific scenario
Mojang doesn't really seem to be great an ensuring stuff is throughly tested, but then again, that's pretty hard to ensure that every potential aspect is considered
If it starts and runs for 3 sec it’s ready for release
"it compiles, push to master"
Best way to test is to push to production
at the current state of the mojang server software if i were to upgrade the world would get corrupted
but what could go wrong
brb
what better way to test software than to push to prod and have users report stuff :^)
So what if people's worlds get corrupted
It's a feature
Atleast Mojang did it better in the old days
I dunno. We got up to a 1.7.10
^ can confirm
Kinda sucks that the biggest game in the entire world can't even release stable updates
surely even realms is having this problem though
Like chunk loading/generating/rendering is completely fucked right?
is the 1.14 client fine?
chunk rendering is slow
when was PlayerPickupArrowEvent added
Git blame it
March 22, 2016
yeah the world does take longer to render in 1.14, but it's fine
for the client, server is completely broken
Chunk rendering doesn't always work for me on singleplayer either
Then it’s not fine and should not be treated as such @tardy lynx
Yep server chunks are broken
Literally walking in a straight line and it can't keep up (4GHz cpu)
Usually crashes when enough chunks have been loaded
Minecraft has been crashing for me since 1.8, nothing new there
So we can expect a 1.14.1 i guess
1.14 is worse @wide chasm
Yes
also the MultiplayerChunkCache is broken
1.14 and everything below crash just as often for me
729,441 in 1.14. Should be 441,441
@wide chasm Not enough memory?
I have 6 GB and when it crashes it usually uses between 2 - 2.5 GB.
So I don't think so, but who knows.
Hasn't crashed for me except when setting server view distance to 64
Haven’t crashed since i was doing packet stuff
all packet stuff I've done just makes it disconnect from the server with an error
I crashed with unchecked casts haha
can't get online mode encryption to work
Hey nerds, what's the current hot shit for rest apis right now? I have a vue.js typescript app and need a backend to talk to a relational db
I don't care about language or framework, just want to try out fancy new shit
Unless it's php, am not touching php, lol
Is reactive stuff still da shit?
spring or spark I'd imagine
Mmh, graphql, that might be worth trying out
Spring would be my fallback, but i do that at work so it's kinda boring
soooo uhhhhh
Oh wait, serverless is the hot shit now, right?
no stop
RIP mini
Oh god
See, the app is financial data, I really wouldn't want to store it in a block chain, lol
mfw literally bitcoin
Yeah but also with metadata about transactions
It's basically a toy project for me to learn ts and Vue and also keep track of my money now that I actually need to have a flat and stuff
i have a friend who also built literally that as well
seems to be a popular project idea
Oh yeah I know ppl too
in other news I'm slowly getting better at smash maybe
I don't expect anybody else than me to actually use it, if I even manage to build a mvp
Anybody played with reactive stuff before?
Wait spring has reactive extensions or smth, right?
Never really looked into reactive stuff, but spring-reactive rings a bell
It's called spring webflux now
Looks shit
Spring boot it is then
Mmh, kotlin or Java 🤔
Java, because java best lang
Groovy /s
runs
who wants to have a laugh
If you have issues with mobs not spawning in Java 1.14 try increasing you render distance to at least 11. I'm looking into the issue but wanted to help out of anyone is experiencing this now.
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Well, that'd explain it, my render distance is at 4 and I only get phantoms to spawn.
kek
Also, visible entities don't tick when near the render distance border, so I hope that's also related to render distance.
Mini use kotlin so you can use it for both frontend and backend 😄
There is a method on Bukkit or something iirc
can I allow non-OPs to use command blocks
Why would you want that lol
I want non-OPs to be able to place "command blocks" that can only be on the activate-once-per-redstone-input mode, and can only run one command but they are allowed to change the arguments to it
Phoenix has a plugin for it iirc, buut that's asking for a whole host of issues
probably a better method than this is some custom system
Does the client not send an interact event?
but idk an input interface for this
that's as good as the command block one
I thought of anvil, book, sign,
but all are ugly/limited
iirc the client won't acknowledge the existence of a few different things unless it thinks it's op
structure blocks for sure. i think command blocks as well
can I open a "fake" command block input screen on the client?
you can send a packet to trick the client into thinking it's op though
that's all in the territory of nms and protocol though
nothing at the api level
is there a way to create shulker box item with populated contents, but with inventory larger than 3*9?
not sure if i got answer for that last time i asked, nobody pinged so.. 
Pretty sure that invs are fixed sizes now
no way to force them to be larger?
i can use/patch nms freely tbh, i just need to do some research 
You'd have to check what they've done, I'm not 100% on it, but worse case you'd need to open another inventory instead of the items normal ones
just put two shulker boxes into one and merge their inventories with a plugin ;D
sounds hacky and brittle :p
On every single test I've done mobs don't spawn reliably in 1.14 with spigot
I have a server with 3-4 people on it and it's miserable
For anyone even considering to a run a server at the moment please don't it's so bad
you mean different from vanilla/spigot 1.13 or different from paper's improved spawn limits?
Vanilla/spigot 1.13
Just more of a comment of why paper will be so important
Also I hope to god mojang comes out with an update soon because compared to spigot 1.13 I'm using 3x the amount of memory
I mean fixing vanilla gameplay bugs isn't necessarly the goal of paper xD
Well I mean spigot seems to be the problem in this case
phoenix616BOTToday at 10:41 AM
I mean fixing vanilla gameplay bugs isn't necessarly the goal of paper xD
uh yeah it is
oh, it sounded like it was a 1.14 Vanilla issue
we have a few of those
fix my shit up daddy
paper = fix the damn game in many ways
I thought the major goal was to improve performance 🤔
thats the main thing we touch yeah, but anything that makes shit better and is reasonable for core vs plugin im open to
like Lootables refresh is one major gameplay item fixed
now mob spawning
I understand that and also that vanilla fixes get included before Mojang does it but I feel like in the end it's mojang's job to fix proper gameplay bugs xD
it is their job, doesnt mean we wont do it so server owners dont have to wait 40 years for it
well "proper gameplay bugs" as in "bugs that affect singleplayer, the only thing mojang really seems to care about"
Well as I said it's a problem on the latest version of 1.14 spigot. I can do some tests right now to pinpoint if it's a problem vanilla or spigot
I'm leaning towards spigot
There comes a line with vanilla bugs, it's really a case of "Can we do this cleanly/in a way that can actually be maintained" and "can somebody actually find the time to get to it", beyond that vanilla bug fixes are fair game
@fossil dust
I think that's a 1.14 bug
I heard a mojang dev talking about it getting fixed for 1.14.1
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Ah, ok that's good to know then
And hey maybe it's just finicky because in the beginning I saw no problems when I did my playthrough in vanilla
Only correlation I saw was the more players were on the server the less mobs would spawn
@LandofGodsMC Lots of performance fixes also on its way. Hoping it will help some. We do not have a good setup for testing servers right now so we are doing the best we can but we want to improve.
(DiscordBot) @MiaLem_n (Maria Lemón): @LandofGodsMC Lots of performance fixes also on its way. Hoping it will help some. We do not have a good setup for… https://t.co/dG3ZCKklf2 (22 hours and 54 minutes ago)
If you have issues with mobs not spawning in Java 1.14 try increasing you render distance to at least 11. I'm looking into the issue but wanted to help out of anyone is experiencing this now.
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@fossil dust less mobs globally or less mobs per player? because the second one was always that way xD
oh god phoenix you always scare me
"We do not have a good setup for testing servers right now" lmao
It's funny Mojang always has great performance on their realms 🤔
But when it comes to third party server hosting it falls to shit
I have a conspiracy that they deliberately unoptimized it so they can run their servers better lmao
Because my friends have a realm right now with 6 people and they haven't experienced problems
Aren't realms much more heavily limited in terms of what you can do?
I believe so
not as much as before
ahhhh, laptop on low battery super slow ass mode
I haven't been on it so I'm just taking their word for what they're seeing
inb4 realms is running bedrock servers with a proxy in front
I wonder how optimised servers would be if mojang had an actual good testing setup for servers
Yeah like vanilla almost runs worse that spigot does (on 1.14)
I have no idea how they could even let that happen
if they had a decent testing setup, they would of realised long ago that player ticking gets rather intensive
they should just do an hour every week where they all play on a server with the latest dev-build...
or hell, I bet a lot of people at Microsoft play minecraft now and then too, just get all of them on a test server xD
they have 74 employees minus support so they could honestly get away with just their own employees
they could also host it on some older hardware so that they didn't need as many players online to actually test the performance with an active playerbase
I know a dev (was it jeb?) tweeted out they have a office server
But it was for bedrock :>
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Yes it was jeb https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/1123211535634112517?s=19
@beta_mcpe1 There are a few differences in UI and combat of course, but you get used to it very quickly. Either edition is great, currently playing on this one because it's a Mojang office server
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(DiscordBot) ✓@jeb_ (Jens Bergensten): @beta_mcpe1 There are a few differences in UI and combat of course, but you get used to it very quickly. Either edi… https://t.co/cm6qWQ2iO0 (1 day and 2 hours ago)
no wonder 1.13 was so broken in terms of performance, they spent all their time on just bedrock edition when testing
well jeb only develops game features, not actual code iirc
but yeah, they should really have a java server for the develors that only work on java xD
is there anyway to get rid of "can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running x ms or x ticks behind" when hosting a server? Or it's not as big of an issue and i shouldn't even worry about it
If the server can't keep up, then that's sort of a problem
TPS loss is soomewhat normal and expected, you can look into it with timings
it pops up not all the time it's even kinda rare tbh
(Worth noting that spigot disabled those messages until 1.14, stuff like saving the world can run over the expected time for a tick, so it's one of those "not ideal but not much you can do"
how often world saves in spigot
for spigot I think that's configured in bukkit.yml
i mean by default
5 minutes by default
If I wanted to get some help with some really laggy entitytick on my timings, where would I go around here?
Perfect thank you!
since banners are entities they shouldn't show up when you check for a block right
Banners are block entities, not normal entities.
so they still show up as a block if I do a getBlock?
Yes
ok thanks


