#general

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finite wave
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Sure

void void
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Link?

wide chasm
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You can see the commits.

void void
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well, without looking at every commits

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I have no idea of the changes between 1.9 and 1.14 except the major changes

finite wave
wide chasm
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I don't think Spigot releases any kind of changelog.

finite wave
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It releases commits so good enough

safe tide
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this may be a stupid question but how do I get the InventoryView

static badge
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events

finite wave
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.getView

void void
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@safe tide from the inventory itself

wide chasm
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It's only accessible when someone is actually looking at the inventory.

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So the events and I think HumanEntity/Player may have a method.

finite wave
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@wide chasm Does if still use InventoryHolders?

void void
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just checked the jdoc, he's right

wide chasm
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Yes IF still uses InventoryHolders.

safe tide
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Well I have an inventoryclickevent and I need the view

finite wave
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Grrat

wide chasm
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InventoryClickEvent#getView iirc

void void
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yes

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all inventory events have getview

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click, drag, close... as long as they inherit from InventoryEvent

safe tide
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They really should make this stuff way more known

void void
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well

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I just looked at the javadoc

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that's it

woven otter
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Hmm I'm considering using password manager. What do you think about LastPass?

void void
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KeePassXC

wide chasm
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I'm currently using it, it's pretty good, but I haven't used anything else.

void void
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if you can backup your database yourself

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and want a offline alternative

upper flicker
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I stopped using lastpass and replaced it with bitwarden a while back

void void
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and free

upper flicker
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been very happy

woven otter
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why did you switch from lastpass?

upper flicker
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there was a browser support issue that I think has been resolved

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but bitwarden is FOSS

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so all the better

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havent found a reason to move back

void void
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Are you using the sync feature @upper flicker

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I don't like the "clouded" password managers

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I use something completly offline and backup myself the file

upper flicker
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I am

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their encryption is solid, theyve been audited

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I trust their server more than I trust mine

void void
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as long as it's not sha1 I don't really care about audits

upper flicker
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all Im going to do is take an encrypted DB and put it on gdrive or onedrive anyway

void void
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yeah

stiff yarrow
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@upper flicker I'm using lastpass and it seems good so far, but kashike told me to switch to some other thing I forgot the name of

void void
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I mean, the account factor of these things scares me

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for example if the company disappear or you can't login because the servers are off

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or anything basically

upper flicker
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yeah thats a valid concern

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all their stuff is open source, you can host your own or use theirs

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so if they die at the very least I wont lose anything

void void
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do they provide a docker image or something ?

upper flicker
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even assuming I dont want to host the service myself

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yes

finite wave
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I use BitWarden

void void
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well that's a good point

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👌

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If one day I want something that sync, I will use this

upper flicker
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I definitely see why people use the simpler stuff though

stiff yarrow
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@void void I have my randomized passwords backed up IRL (wrote them down)

void void
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right now I stick on KeePassXC

stiff yarrow
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put in a safe

void void
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@stiff yarrow god

stiff yarrow
upper flicker
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less moving parts is always good

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KeePassXC is solid iirc

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if you dont need/want sync, I dont see a problem with it

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I need the syncing aspect because I just have too many devices

void void
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yup

stiff yarrow
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same

void void
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I'll remember about that name if I want something that syncs one day

upper flicker
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so if I was using keepass I'd just be putting the DB up somewhere anyway

void void
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yeah obviously

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hows the browser integration it ?

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I don't even use browser integration

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just curious

stiff yarrow
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lastpass has dope browser integration, dunno about bitwarden

void void
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keepassxc has keepasshttp but I don't use it

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sounds good

woven otter
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cli of bitwarden looks good as well

finite wave
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I use that it’s nice’ish

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I’m premium bois

stiff yarrow
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is there an easy way to xfer my passwords over is the question

void void
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wait

stiff yarrow
upper flicker
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I havent used their premium thing

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I dont need anything it offers

void void
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do you need to keep a node app running on the background for the browser extension to work?

finite wave
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@stiff yarrow You can import different kind of password files

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Take a look

void void
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seems like they support everything

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to import from

upper flicker
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the browser provides the runtime

stiff yarrow
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nice

upper flicker
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like most other password manager extensions

stiff yarrow
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now I just have to not be lazy

void void
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@upper flicker so the node app is just to install it right ?

upper flicker
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node to compile it probably

pulsar wigeon
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npm isn't node

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it's a package manager

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built in node...

upper flicker
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^

void void
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yes

finite wave
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NPM == NODE

void void
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it's still running on node

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"Requirements

Node.js v8.11 or greater"

pulsar wigeon
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no, it's compiling in node

void void
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well

pulsar wigeon
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the addon itself doesn't use node

void void
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I understand myself

pulsar wigeon
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it's like saying bukkit requires maven

void void
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I was thinking it could need a local websocket server or whatever to communicate to the extension

pulsar wigeon
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like, to build it you need maven. but when it's built, you no longer need maven

void void
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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But yes I understand

pulsar wigeon
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(technically npm isn't building, gulp is, but that's another matter)

void void
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just realized it was a run build

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I only tried node a few times in my life don't hurt me 😭

woven otter
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looks like I will be using Bitwarden

void void
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I'm tempted too

upper flicker
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its free

void void
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but even with the import feature

upper flicker
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so if you hate it

void void
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I'm too lazy

upper flicker
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its not like youre out anything

pulsar wigeon
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time^

upper flicker
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pfffffft

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these guys arent doing anything

finite wave
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You can also if you are paranoid increade the encryption runs.

pulsar wigeon
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i keep all my passwords on a sticky note in my phone case

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:^)

void void
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if I set up in local without remote and get conviced, can I just enable remote easily ?

upper flicker
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no idea

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you could try it, just not import anything until youre satisfied its not syncing

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its main thing is kind of the whole sync feature afaik

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so idk

void void
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yeah

upper flicker
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I havent used keepassXC specifically but if youre happy and dont need the whole sync thing idk what your motivation for leaving is

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browser extensions?

pale knot
void void
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Yeah probably

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I know one day I will get tired of copy/paste

upper flicker
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tbh thats whats kind of turned me off from having a clipboard history

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I still end up copy pasting sensitive stuff like passwords and I dont want to have to manage it

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it'd be nice if there was a system or API or something to flag certain pastes as secure and not remember them

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but there isnt so you either have to micromanage the history (which for me defeats the purpose entirely) or not use it

worn ember
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accidentally pastes in the wrong place
Password deleted

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What could go wrong

upper flicker
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deleted from your clipboard

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not from wherever app you got it from

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which would be perfectly fine with me

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or you could have a separate clipboard entirely for that

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my linux desktop has at least two clipboards already

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which is fun sometimes

woven otter
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how does that work anyways

twilit sky
upper flicker
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Xorg has a clipboard

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the Window manager has a clipboard

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there are tools to keep them in sync

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otherwise you end up with occasionally oddities like ctrl+v not matching shift+insert

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idk if wayland attempts to mimic this behavior or what

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will have to check that when I get home

native whale
finite wave
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Hahaha

upper flicker
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lol

void void
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Oh god

upper flicker
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as relevant as ever

void void
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Ivan is back

finite wave
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Nah

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He was banned on Aikars server now

void void
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LEL

vestal jasper
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Just reapply patches 4Head

finite wave
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Is getCommand case sensitive btw?

stiff yarrow
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I miss ivan

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listening to his bullshit

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was funny

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where do I go for my latest ivan updates?

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someone make a blog

golden gust
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Shoulda told him to make a PR if he thinks it's that easy lol

wide chasm
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He isn't banned on Codevision, so invite him there.

stiff yarrow
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guys he had to merge once

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hes an expert

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GIT GOD

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👼

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probably was an automatic merge with no conflicts too

wide chasm
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Ivan's conflicts resolve themselves

stiff yarrow
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yeah it usually involves copy paste

upper flicker
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pretty sure he lost his shit at the thought of his plugin needing to cleanup his async tasks before disable too

stiff yarrow
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I must've missed that PogU

upper flicker
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🚮

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good riddance

stiff yarrow
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we've lost so many resident dumbos

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its sad

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can we stop banning dumbos

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I miss them

wide chasm
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If you just delete everything inside master before merging, you never have merge conflicts.

stiff yarrow
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holy

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shit

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write a book

finite wave
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I’m still here @stiff yarrow

stiff yarrow
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yeah but you don't quite satisfy that arrogance and ignorance combination

finite wave
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Yes i do, retard.

stiff yarrow
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we need someone whos stupid but convinced they are right

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the ivan factor

finite wave
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Fixed

stiff yarrow
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ever since Ivan left I've been feeling empty

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I need to invite him to my discord

upper flicker
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can we ban him from there too?

stiff yarrow
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....yes

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we need a bot

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that just repeats things ivan has said in the past

finite wave
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50$

stiff yarrow
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sold

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but it has to be a complete dictionary of everything he said

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or you don't get 50 bucks

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bonus points if the bot acts arrogant

finite wave
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You can get @wicked remnant to train a neural network over his messages

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He tried once on his own but fucked it up.

stiff yarrow
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we can make a new ivan

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a better ivan PogU

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bonus points if the bot can debunk everything it says on its own

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like it will repeat ivan's statements and then immediately research the material on its own and debunk it

finite wave
pulsar wigeon
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that makes me want to stab a baby

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specifically, mrivanplays 11 years ago, i assume

stiff yarrow
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bro you posted that 5 mins ago

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fake news

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I want fresher ivan content

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not this stale stuff

finite wave
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I see

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Anyone got his discord tag

stiff yarrow
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I need an ivan bodycam

limber knotBOT
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Yea, he already has enough stale stuff from mcmmo

finite wave
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Oh i do

limber knotBOT
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runs

stiff yarrow
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hey now its not my fault the guys I left in charge literally dropped the project LUL

finite wave
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MrIvanPlays#2830

stiff yarrow
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are you suggesting I DM him

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gross

upper flicker
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yeah but it is your fault there is no more mcmmo kraken

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explain yourself

stiff yarrow
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I'm so tempted to put it back in but only have it target players named Z750

woven otter
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When will the kraken be released

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Why is it taking so long?

stiff yarrow
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daddy needs to sell more mcMMO to fund the research and development costs

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of copy pasting the code back in

upper flicker
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@stiff yarrow you can even use my UUID now to assure that no innocents get hit in the crossfire

stiff yarrow
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currently looking to hire ivan for it

upper flicker
stiff yarrow
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master copy paster

woven otter
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Other plugins have daily releases

finite wave
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I’ll hire him for you

woven otter
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it's that easy

stiff yarrow
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you got me there FeelsBadMan

finite wave
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The plugins with daily releases are retarded

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Like, no plugin makes enough money for that

limber knotBOT
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but you make more money due to that ;)

woven otter
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I know better obviously

stiff yarrow
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@finite wave PPepeHmmmmmmmm

finite wave
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Well i can just upload the same thing with the some bugs fixed

wicked remnant
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I've been pung

stiff yarrow
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how much money would you have to make with a plugin to justify daily releases Jan

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just wondering

wicked remnant
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And yeah I used an LSTM to reproduce messages from me

woven otter
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Well I tried to replace ivan

finite wave
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@stiff yarrow Enough to justify using every day on it.

stiff yarrow
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and what number is that

wicked remnant
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I forget if the source is public or not, if you want I can make it public

finite wave
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@stiff yarrow Well, enough to live on.

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Duh

stiff yarrow
wide chasm
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Just auto-deploy to Spigot resources.

stiff yarrow
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and you're sure no plugin makes that much Kappa

wide chasm
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It's not that hard.

finite wave
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@stiff yarrow Any good plugins*

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Nossr50 Rubba can make that neural thing over Ivans messages for a lot of $

upper flicker
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Ill give him $5, a dominos coupon, and 3 skittles

wicked remnant
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I never said it was good lol, I only had like 30k messages on that discord at the time so I guess I could trainbit again now that I have around 110k

finite wave
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Make one for MrIvanPlays#2830

wicked remnant
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I said the most I'd do is make the source public lol

finite wave
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He will pay you 3 skittled

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Skittles

upper flicker
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lol jan gonna take the $5 and the coupon as a finders fee

stiff yarrow
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going by what you said Jan, enough to live on could be something like 1k a month

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so I think quite a few make that

upper flicker
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1k a month is plenty if you can sort out housing with a roommate or something

finite wave
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@stiff yarrow Nah 1k is low as fuck

stiff yarrow
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2k then?

finite wave
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10k or no deal

upper flicker
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10k too high, Ill only go 15k

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take it or leave it

pure spoke
eternal steeple
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hey folks - this used to work back in 1.12 and 1.13 syntax has changed a bunch - anyone know what it should be now?

execute @e[type=Player] ~ ~ ~ detect ~ ~ ~ grass_path 0 effect @s speed 1 2

Goal is simply to add speed boost to anyone standing on a path block.

stiff yarrow
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if you need 10k to live on its time to move out of hollywood

wide chasm
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execute as @e[type=Player] if block ~ ~-1 ~ minecraft:grass_path run effect @s minecraft:speed 1 2

@eternal steeple Try this, haven't tested it though.

eternal steeple
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thank you will test now.

cosmic raft
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hello

eternal steeple
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execute as @e[type=minecraft:player] at @s if block ~ ~-1 ~ minecraft:grass_path run effect give @s minecraft:speed 1 2

Small syntax change but that works thank you 😃

indigo cloud
torpid yew
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Boat Fly - play.WiZARDHAX.com - length 11s - 2 likes, 1 dislike (66.7%) - 132 views - Vix on 2016.09.11

hard lake
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high quality content

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btw its dead

upper flicker
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Bandicam link at the top of the video

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we most be going way back

limber knotBOT
hard lake
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I think I accidentally did the resolution fuck up lol

livid echo
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great content

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i will subscribe for more

visual swift
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Sub test #1 - length 15s - 7 views - Vix on 2019.03.28

hard lake
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This is right?

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I fixed the weird sound tho

halcyon ginkgo
void void
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welcome

unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Attila - Pizza - length 3m 35s - 39,046 likes, 2,184 dislikes (94.7%) - 1,515,474 views - Attila on 2018.07.12

unreal quarry
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^_^

unreal quarry
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@cosmic raft listen to 2:10 to end 😛

atomic marten
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#relatanble

woven otter
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Never Gonna Wake Up (ft. Schmoyoho) - length 4m 16s - 35,420 likes, 745 dislikes (97.9%) - 788,213 views - RoomieOfficial on 2018.06.30

dire tendon
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🔥 🍃

atomic marten
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names like ò¡é˙ŒTëQê ˚ºÂ@•"Ñ∑6Â÷fiálπ}Ñ make great world names

dire tendon
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10/10

limber knotBOT
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Just looked through 1.14 source code a bit. It might not be relevant right now but as far as i can see, anti-xray should be easy to update this time.

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Would appreciate to help if necessary. Just contact me when the time comes.

atomic marten
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um what

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didnt you just say it should be easy, why not just reach out for help when you need it

unreal quarry
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they've already started 😉

cosmic raft
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he's offering to help us if we need help

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not the other way around

atomic marten
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who changed my amazing nickname ;-;

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& why

static badge
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I've no plans to perform the anti-xray patch :>

atomic marten
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just letem xray smh

pearl ibex
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Stfu, leaf.

austere ivy
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Goodness this Fricktastic server still has 75 players

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6 tps though :P

limber knotBOT
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Thanks for the info Billy!

austere ivy
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5 tps!? Howww low can we go :D

vestal jasper
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Unpopular opinion: When plugins stop functioning, players should report this instead of assuming I disabled it without telling anyone. peepoJuice

smoky copper
austere ivy
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vicarious that would require people to change

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Improbable? Impossible.

void void
vestal jasper
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looks legible to me

void void
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not exactly sure if i should have all arguments on separate lines lel

austere ivy
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is that Java?

void void
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no, Javascript

austere ivy
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okay because I was thinking that's some odd looking Java

void void
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lel i bet there's a framework which makes java look like that

atomic marten
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i just run things through a code prettyfier

austere ivy
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let me introduce you fine folks to the wonders of alt+cmd+L

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IntelliJ just fixes up your code formatting for you.

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I spam it 5-6 times every minute 👀

unreal quarry
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you just figured that out?

void void
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i just have a macro which is called BetterSave

austere ivy
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No xD

void void
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and then i bind it to Ctrl S

atomic marten
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whats intellij smh

austere ivy
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smh my head

atomic marten
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ctrl+s? that wont save

void void
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E C L I P S E

austere ivy
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N O

atomic marten
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whats eclipse?

unreal quarry
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try alt+cmd+O too. it reorganizes your imports (and is even nice enough to get rid of ones not in use)

void void
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oh wait you're a nano user aren't you

atomic marten
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dont you know looking at an eclipse is a great way to go blind

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no

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who uses nano

austere ivy
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1 an obscuring of the light from one celestial body by the passage of another between it and the observer or between it and its source of illumination: an eclipse of the sun.

void void
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json hackers

atomic marten
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no json hacker should be using nano

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smh

void void
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i WUV nano!

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better than vim

atomic marten
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what

austere ivy
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textedit > notepad

atomic marten
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ed > notepad

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ed > nano

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id rather echo everything in than use nano

golden gust
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Personally, I just use good ol'; C-x M-c M-butterfly

void void
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😠

golden gust
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❤ emacs

atomic marten
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Respectable choice

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I dont live in my editor so not a good one for me

golden gust
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Nah, I'm jk, I'm a vum user

void void
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Here we go again™

golden gust
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*vim

atomic marten
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i happily use neovim, but if i lived in my editor, i would use emacs

golden gust
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I was going to make a joke about emacs OS a good year or so ago, and figured I'd do my research first...

austere ivy
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I like vm

golden gust
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.g EmacsOS

limber knotBOT
austere ivy
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I mean I kinda have to like VIM

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It's been on my computer open for 5 years

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I can't figure out how to close it

void void
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LEL

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reboot

atomic marten
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it tells you when you open it

golden gust
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I mean, people use emacs as a window manager, and use some emacs email client and stuff...

atomic marten
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like, it does actually tell you

void void
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if its still there then wipe it

golden gust
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But the best part? evil-mode...

austere ivy
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pffft who reboots their computer

void void
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windows users

austere ivy
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0 second boot times

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just turn on your monitor! thonk

golden gust
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So, basically, "emacs is a great text editor, just make sure that you've got another text editor to use" thonk

void void
atomic marten
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it actually tells you how to close it

golden gust
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Not if you open a file with it

austere ivy
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vi > vim

golden gust
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It only tells you that if you run it without a file iirc

austere ivy
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vi is faster since it has 2/3 of the code

upper flicker
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if you open a file with an editor you dont know how to use I have no sympathy for you

void void
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opengl can end up crashing your display driver if you aren't careful btw

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so be wary

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still dont understand why it happens

atomic marten
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read the man pages then

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shows to use :help

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first thing in help shows how to close it

upper flicker
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piping man into less

atomic marten
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just using man is like that on macos

sturdy fulcrum
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Sup ladies

atomic marten
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check your facts m8

upper flicker
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I mean I never noticed that on my mac

void void
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Riot is better than Discord

upper flicker
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but everything else on the mac is fucking 5 years old

atomic marten
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really?

static badge
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mfw defending vim

upper flicker
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so I suppose the man binary being that old and needing some poor workaround like isnt surprising

void void
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vim is a crime against humanity

static badge
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what came first, vim or cancer

upper flicker
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the only cancer is your discord profile picture

static badge
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z

atomic marten
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i use vim because its simple

static badge
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ur cancer

upper flicker
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there's not even any litter box there

void void
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simple

sturdy fulcrum
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I’d tell u what came first but I don’t want you to get upset

atomic marten
static badge
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this chat is a litter box

void void
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time to move to binary keyboards

atomic marten
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o oops who put that there

void void
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this chat is a litter box and you are shitting in it

sturdy fulcrum
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Thanks had to take s shit somewhere

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At least u provided paper

woven otter
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someone will need to clean it up

sturdy fulcrum
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😂😂 hope you guys are having a good dAy. Sry had to

low hinge
austere ivy
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intellij

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intelli

atomic marten
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It’s just an editor

upper flicker
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) @Dinnerbone (Nathan Adams): @MegaVPrime We are hoping to release a test build either the end of this week, or beginning of next. (5 hours and 33 minutes ago)

static badge
unreal quarry
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this has become a race condition

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runs

stiff yarrow
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vim is actually such a good editor

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can't believe the hate

orchid pelican
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sure

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keep joking

woven otter
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how long have you been stuck in vim

vestal jasper
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Noss that's called stockholme syndrome

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You've been unable to quit vim for so long that you're starting to learn how to use it

stiff yarrow
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2019

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not knowing how to quit vim

woven otter
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using vim

unreal quarry
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dont mind the youngins. they dont remember when vi was all we had

upper flicker
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I legitimately dislike using nano

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fite me irl

static badge
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you're also legitimately retarded

upper flicker
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Im also legitimately still in this room

static badge
stiff yarrow
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nano is kind of gross

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vim tho PogU

static badge
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vim DansGame

woven otter
#

everyone knows that notepad is the best editor.
I mean those features are just irreplaceble

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the best one is line shuffling

upper flicker
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20 years later they did finally make it able to handle real line endings

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so you know they have that going for them now at least

mighty bobcat
static badge
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ah crlf

woven otter
#

wait what notepad just started handling lines properly

stiff yarrow
#

spotted kind of low key disappointed you aren't a vim elitist

woven otter
#

I think someone listens to this chat

static badge
#

I was disappointed to find that u were a filthy weeb

stiff yarrow
woven otter
#

it looks like that cat is shitting tbh

static badge
#

is it me or is that getting bigger each time

woven otter
#

was that the intention

stiff yarrow
#

idk how he doesn't see it

woven otter
#

leaf?

stiff yarrow
#

yea

static badge
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wtf do you think I chose this for

stiff yarrow
#

hes a disco dingus

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its intentional 🤢

static badge
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it's next level bait :>

woven otter
#

masterbaiter

vestal jasper
#

ur a furry @static badge

static badge
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vic ur literally a filthy weeb

vestal jasper
#

Again, at least I'm attracted to humans peepoJuice

static badge
#

mfw

vestal jasper
#

Also

"I was just worried we might make you seem special if we leave you with a color and stuff"
"And well, that would be an horrific representation of us, imho"

gives leaf a colored role
peepoGIGA

static badge
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turns out ur weeb trash ways are worse than my leaf ways

vestal jasper
#

ok retard peepoJuice

static badge
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ur retarded

vestal jasper
short gulch
elder sable
#

the lack of ETA announcements makes me hate tacos, kittens, taylor swift and the smell of burnt leaves

woven otter
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

winter sundial
woven otter
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Piano woogie boogie massages for meow - length 1m 53s - 153,364 likes, 856 dislikes (99.4%) - 1,702,273 views - Minh Piano on 2019.04.07

elder sable
#

i think it was 2deep4u

woven otter
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it was 3deep5me

limber knotBOT
#

Oi

#

PlayerInteractEvent now has useItemInHand and useInteracedBlock instead of isCancelled

elder sable
#

from what depths of the interwebs do you emerge?

woven otter
#

from Mariana's web

elder sable
#

is it what you can call deepweb?

woven otter
#

it's deeper

quartz owl
elder sable
#

deeper than your love even?

woven otter
#

🤔

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what is love

elder sable
#

baby the inte****ts po***r cant h***** **u ~peep peep peep~

woven otter
elder sable
#

WHOEVER THOUGHT MARKDOWN WAS A GOOD IDEA

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SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT DOWN

woven otter
#

blame discord tbh

vestal jasper
#

I blame irc

elder sable
#

how do you want to explain to *normal* people how to use ||markdown||

vestal jasper
#

ok

unreal quarry
#

yes

elder sable
#

HOW?!

woven otter
#

very funny

elder sable
#

Okay new challenge for non-programmers: escape that shit so that symbols appear

haughty obsidian
vestal jasper
#
I bet you can't orange text```
elder sable
#

yes i gave up

woven otter
#
I bet you can't cyan text
elder sable
#

if only it were blue

woven otter
#

well cyan?

elder sable
#

😛45 g

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]FML THIS @#/131231

vestal jasper
#
#blue text```
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shit

#
Cyan Text```
@woven otter
elder sable
vestal jasper
#

wait the fuck

#
B L U E ```
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there we go

woven otter
#

wow you failed so many times

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even now

vestal jasper
#
Also blue
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that's not blue that's gray

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but ok

woven otter
#

close enough

vestal jasper
#
[This is a for statement]

@elder sable

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why is discord so inconsistent

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blue messages in my test server are red here

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???

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There, blue

elder sable
#

hah its switching now!

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Vicarious wanna see a trick?

vestal jasper
#

sure

elder sable
#

@slim nymph send this

vestal jasper
#

Already know how pings work peepoJuice

bleak epoch
woven otter
#

no

void void
#

oh god

woven otter
#

what have you done

pulsar wigeon
upper flicker
#

ah yes add another link to a broken chain

void void
#

what do you guys think

cosmic raft
#

looks the same to me

woven otter
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) WATCH NOW: SpaceX to Launch Falcon Heavy Rocket #Nasa @Kennedy Space Center, 5:35pm - length **** - 604,877 likes, 33,506 dislikes (94.8%) - 18,970,418 views - SPACE & UNIVERSE (Official) on 2019.04.11

vestal jasper
#

Wait a fucking minute

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There was an annoying ass player who used to be on a server I played on who had Leaf in his name

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he's spottedleaf confirmed

distant flame
static badge
#

hm?

tropic quarry
vestal jasper
#

Welcome to 1.14 HmmCoffeeSmile

static badge
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we're waiting on 1.14.1 to solve issues

orchid pelican
#

and there is a LOT of issues

cosmic raft
#

god I hate intellij

#
  private static boolean isInSuper(final PsiClass zuper, final PsiClass search) {
    PsiClass superTarget = search;
    while(superTarget != null) {
      if(superTarget.equals(zuper)) {
        return true;
      }
      for(final PsiClass anInterface : superTarget.getInterfaces()) {
        if(isInSuper(zuper, anInterface)) {
          return true;
        }
      }
      superTarget = superTarget.getSuperClass();
    }
    return false;
  }
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this is ugly

peak frost
cosmic raft
#

@static badge you love generics

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do you love long class names too?

#

net.kyori.kraken.inspection.UnnecessarilyQualifiedInnerClassAccessWithinHierarchyInspection

limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
#

looks for the meme catboy linked

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) @PaperPowered (PaperMC): 1.14: Community developers say I'm not ready for production Server Owners: runs 1.14 in production 1.14: *breaks… https://t.co/wcjyoFYBjU (2 days and 6 hours ago)

cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
dire tendon
#

Dude

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why

golden gust
vivid musk
meager phoenix
#

the one on the opposite page is even better

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twins in the hips, already wearing diapers

jaunty torrent
void void
#

wHy DoNt yOu JuSt ClIcK tHe UpDaTe BuTtOn

#

WhErE iS pApEr 1.14

stiff yarrow
#

this bot is malfunctioning, not authentic enough

void void
visual swift
#

Is the current 1.14 version of paper better than base spigot?

pulsar wigeon
#

tbh i'd rather use nothing over using spigot, so let's go with yes

golden gust
#

There is no 1.14 version of paper at the moment, nor should anybody be using 1.14 for that matter

pulsar wigeon
#

in fact, i'd rather be using nothing over using 1.14 at all

visual swift
#

1.14-pre5

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paper

golden gust
#

It's not finished

void void
#

How bad would the performance be if I ran a plain vanilla snapshot server

orchid pelican
#

1.14 is not stable

void void
#

With 16 GB of ram

orchid pelican
#

I have had world corruption on my dev server

golden gust
#

1.14 has pretty critical game stopping bugs (literally)

void void
golden gust
#

You will end up with map corruption, basically

orchid pelican
#

Yep. Can be easily reproduced as well

void void
#

Why not press the magic 1.14 button

#

It's right there on the launcher

#

/s

wide hazel
#

I have some questions

void void
#

Ah yes

#

The Thai food pizza

#

Massage

wide hazel
#

Yes, of course

wide hazel
#

An American classic

cosmic raft
#

god this code is disgusting

void void
#

Im actually imagining how it would feel to get a pizza massage

#

Would be an interesting experience

#

Where is this mythical place

wide hazel
#

Spicy pizza massage*

void void
#

Thai spicy pizza massage

wide hazel
#

Fucking Seagate

#

My NAS is full of WD reds, which seem to be fine enough

void void
meager parcel
thin anchor
fossil dust
void void
heady spear
#

The Microsoft surface laptop has a 40% sale in my local electronics store, that might actually be a decent deal lol

fiery barn
silk axle
native thunder
#

Well those are also their oldest drives egg

#

So they're expected to fail

limber knotBOT
#

Seagate has pretty bad rep for drive longevity

vestal jasper
whole relic
ancient bolt
#

while ago

woven otter
#

hard work and dedication

ancient bolt
#

oh i thought you asked when

#

how is we're popular

whole relic
#

ok

stiff yarrow
#

so close to getting my own dingus banner pog

tame pendant
#

I'm the 6% Vicarious :)

tardy lynx
#

crap i have seagate drives

tame pendant
#

Tons of crashes, can't wait for paper

tardy lynx
#

and they're 5 years old

hallow maple
orchid pelican
#

@tame pendant on 1.14 crashes wont be fixed until 1.14.1 😃 that statistic should really be 0%

stiff yarrow
#

we'll see how competent mojang is

hallow maple
orchid pelican
#

they assighned the bug report i mentioned to someone

#

no resolution yet

stiff yarrow
#

the chunk one?

#

oh

orchid pelican
#

the fluid tick crash

#

ConcurrentMapException while ticking world caused by fluids doing something

#

i looked at why it was happening but i coulnt wrap my head around it

tame pendant
#

I mean, it should have fewer crashes at least. But yeah 1.14.1 is what I'm really waiting for

orchid pelican
#

This is the bug stopping me from putting my server live

tame pendant
#

Looks like Ive already voted for that one hehe

#

I can't believe they released it without patching that one

golden gust
#

It's a world gen issue, I forgot the exact path to it but basically something in world gen ends up modifying the next tick list queue

#

But, it's one of those things you'll only really hit if you start running around and hit some specific scenario

#

Mojang doesn't really seem to be great an ensuring stuff is throughly tested, but then again, that's pretty hard to ensure that every potential aspect is considered

finite wave
#

If it starts and runs for 3 sec it’s ready for release

golden gust
#

"it compiles, push to master"

native thunder
#

Best way to test is to push to production

livid echo
#

at the current state of the mojang server software if i were to upgrade the world would get corrupted

#

but what could go wrong

#

brb

vestal jasper
#

what better way to test software than to push to prod and have users report stuff :^)

#

So what if people's worlds get corrupted

#

It's a feature

livid echo
#

ah yes i se

#

brb

#

ah yes i see im too dumb to even build it

finite wave
#

Atleast Mojang did it better in the old days

native thunder
#

I dunno. We got up to a 1.7.10

finite wave
#

Did it a little better.

#

Beta 1.7 was the sjit

gentle pike
#

^ can confirm

heady lava
#

Kinda sucks that the biggest game in the entire world can't even release stable updates

livid echo
#

i mean they want you to use realms

#

because they get that $$$

#

and i crashed

heady lava
#

surely even realms is having this problem though

#

Like chunk loading/generating/rendering is completely fucked right?

livid echo
#

i think chunk rendering is client side

#

so yeah

#

this is fine

trail elk
livid echo
#

yeah im running out of memory on my test server

#

:(

brave loom
tardy lynx
#

is the 1.14 client fine?

livid echo
#

chunk rendering is slow

void void
untold burrow
wicked moth
void void
runic gate
blissful mesa
deep shoal
#

when was PlayerPickupArrowEvent added

finite wave
#

Git blame it

unreal quarry
#

Always blame git

#

It's always gits fault

#

runs

wide chasm
#

March 22, 2016

tardy lynx
#

yeah the world does take longer to render in 1.14, but it's fine

finite wave
#

No

#

Lol it’s broken as fuck

tardy lynx
#

for the client, server is completely broken

wide chasm
#

Chunk rendering doesn't always work for me on singleplayer either

finite wave
#

Then it’s not fine and should not be treated as such @tardy lynx

tardy lynx
#

Yep server chunks are broken

#

Literally walking in a straight line and it can't keep up (4GHz cpu)

finite wave
#

Usually crashes when enough chunks have been loaded

wide chasm
#

Minecraft has been crashing for me since 1.8, nothing new there

fierce idol
#

So we can expect a 1.14.1 i guess

finite wave
#

1.14 is worse @wide chasm

wide chasm
#

Yes

tardy lynx
#

also the MultiplayerChunkCache is broken

wide chasm
#

1.14 and everything below crash just as often for me

tardy lynx
#

729,441 in 1.14. Should be 441,441

finite wave
#

@wide chasm Not enough memory?

wide chasm
#

I have 6 GB and when it crashes it usually uses between 2 - 2.5 GB.

#

So I don't think so, but who knows.

tardy lynx
#

Hasn't crashed for me except when setting server view distance to 64

finite wave
#

Haven’t crashed since i was doing packet stuff

tardy lynx
#

all packet stuff I've done just makes it disconnect from the server with an error

finite wave
#

I crashed with unchecked casts haha

tardy lynx
#

can't get online mode encryption to work

grand shard
dapper plover
void void
snow glen
alpine basalt
frail oar
limber knotBOT
#

Hey nerds, what's the current hot shit for rest apis right now? I have a vue.js typescript app and need a backend to talk to a relational db

#

I don't care about language or framework, just want to try out fancy new shit

#

Unless it's php, am not touching php, lol

#

Is reactive stuff still da shit?

golden gust
#

spring or spark I'd imagine

limber knotBOT
#

Mmh, graphql, that might be worth trying out

#

Spring would be my fallback, but i do that at work so it's kinda boring

void void
#

soooo uhhhhh

limber knotBOT
#

Oh wait, serverless is the hot shit now, right?

void void
#

no stop

golden gust
#

RIP mini

molten brook
limber knotBOT
#

Oh god

#

See, the app is financial data, I really wouldn't want to store it in a block chain, lol

ancient bolt
#

mfw literally bitcoin

limber knotBOT
#

Yeah but also with metadata about transactions

#

It's basically a toy project for me to learn ts and Vue and also keep track of my money now that I actually need to have a flat and stuff

ancient bolt
#

i have a friend who also built literally that as well

#

seems to be a popular project idea

limber knotBOT
#

Oh yeah I know ppl too

ancient bolt
#

in other news I'm slowly getting better at smash maybe

limber knotBOT
#

I don't expect anybody else than me to actually use it, if I even manage to build a mvp

ancient bolt
#

maybe not

#

i still get rekt on the reg

limber knotBOT
#

Anybody played with reactive stuff before?

#

Wait spring has reactive extensions or smth, right?

golden gust
#

Never really looked into reactive stuff, but spring-reactive rings a bell

limber knotBOT
#

It's called spring webflux now

#

Looks shit

#

Spring boot it is then

#

Mmh, kotlin or Java 🤔

golden gust
#

Java, because java best lang

wide chasm
#

Groovy /s

golden gust
#

runs

limber knotBOT
#

who wants to have a laugh

#

(^-^) @MiaLem_n (Maria Lemón): If you have issues with mobs not spawning in Java 1.14 try increasing you render distance to at least 11. I'm looki… https://t.co/6aN6hKH6zM (1 day and 19 hours ago)

wide chasm
#

Well, that'd explain it, my render distance is at 4 and I only get phantoms to spawn.

void void
#

kek

wide chasm
#

Also, visible entities don't tick when near the render distance border, so I hope that's also related to render distance.

ancient bolt
#

Mini use kotlin so you can use it for both frontend and backend 😄

limber knotBOT
#

I already used typescript tho 🤷‍♂️

#

Are there good kotlin libs for vue?

deep shoal
#

is there support for easily using entity selectors in my own commansd

#

@p etc.

limber knotBOT
#

There is a method on Bukkit or something iirc

deep shoal
#

can I allow non-OPs to use command blocks

native thunder
#

Why would you want that lol

pulsar wigeon
#

you can

#

it's not easy, but you can

deep shoal
#

I want non-OPs to be able to place "command blocks" that can only be on the activate-once-per-redstone-input mode, and can only run one command but they are allowed to change the arguments to it

golden gust
#

Phoenix has a plugin for it iirc, buut that's asking for a whole host of issues

deep shoal
#

probably a better method than this is some custom system

golden gust
#

Does the client not send an interact event?

deep shoal
#

but idk an input interface for this

#

that's as good as the command block one

#

I thought of anvil, book, sign,

#

but all are ugly/limited

pulsar wigeon
#

iirc the client won't acknowledge the existence of a few different things unless it thinks it's op

#

structure blocks for sure. i think command blocks as well

deep shoal
#

can I open a "fake" command block input screen on the client?

pulsar wigeon
#

you can send a packet to trick the client into thinking it's op though

#

that's all in the territory of nms and protocol though

#

nothing at the api level

acoustic zealot
void void
#

is there a way to create shulker box item with populated contents, but with inventory larger than 3*9?

#

not sure if i got answer for that last time i asked, nobody pinged so.. spongethinking

golden gust
#

Pretty sure that invs are fixed sizes now

void void
#

no way to force them to be larger?

#

i can use/patch nms freely tbh, i just need to do some research cursorthink

golden gust
#

You'd have to check what they've done, I'm not 100% on it, but worse case you'd need to open another inventory instead of the items normal ones

void void
#

boo

#

meh, i can create multiple shulker boxes

#

easier way for now

limber knotBOT
#

just put two shulker boxes into one and merge their inventories with a plugin ;D

void void
#

sounds hacky and brittle :p

fossil dust
#

On every single test I've done mobs don't spawn reliably in 1.14 with spigot

#

I have a server with 3-4 people on it and it's miserable

#

For anyone even considering to a run a server at the moment please don't it's so bad

limber knotBOT
#

you mean different from vanilla/spigot 1.13 or different from paper's improved spawn limits?

fossil dust
#

Vanilla/spigot 1.13

#

Just more of a comment of why paper will be so important

#

Also I hope to god mojang comes out with an update soon because compared to spigot 1.13 I'm using 3x the amount of memory

limber knotBOT
#

I mean fixing vanilla gameplay bugs isn't necessarly the goal of paper xD

fossil dust
#

Well I mean spigot seems to be the problem in this case

slim nymph
#

phoenix616BOTToday at 10:41 AM
I mean fixing vanilla gameplay bugs isn't necessarly the goal of paper xD

#

uh yeah it is

limber knotBOT
#

oh, it sounded like it was a 1.14 Vanilla issue

slim nymph
#

we have a few of those

limber knotBOT
#

fix my shit up daddy

slim nymph
#

paper = fix the damn game in many ways

limber knotBOT
#

I thought the major goal was to improve performance 🤔

slim nymph
#

thats the main thing we touch yeah, but anything that makes shit better and is reasonable for core vs plugin im open to

#

like Lootables refresh is one major gameplay item fixed

#

now mob spawning

limber knotBOT
#

I understand that and also that vanilla fixes get included before Mojang does it but I feel like in the end it's mojang's job to fix proper gameplay bugs xD

slim nymph
#

it is their job, doesnt mean we wont do it so server owners dont have to wait 40 years for it

limber knotBOT
#

well "proper gameplay bugs" as in "bugs that affect singleplayer, the only thing mojang really seems to care about"

fossil dust
#

Well as I said it's a problem on the latest version of 1.14 spigot. I can do some tests right now to pinpoint if it's a problem vanilla or spigot

#

I'm leaning towards spigot

golden gust
#

There comes a line with vanilla bugs, it's really a case of "Can we do this cleanly/in a way that can actually be maintained" and "can somebody actually find the time to get to it", beyond that vanilla bug fixes are fair game

void void
#

@fossil dust

#

I think that's a 1.14 bug

#

I heard a mojang dev talking about it getting fixed for 1.14.1

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

fossil dust
#

Ah, ok that's good to know then

#

And hey maybe it's just finicky because in the beginning I saw no problems when I did my playthrough in vanilla

#

Only correlation I saw was the more players were on the server the less mobs would spawn

void void
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) @MiaLem_n (Maria Lemón): @LandofGodsMC Lots of performance fixes also on its way. Hoping it will help some. We do not have a good setup for… https://t.co/dG3ZCKklf2 (22 hours and 54 minutes ago)

void void
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) @MiaLem_n (Maria Lemón): If you have issues with mobs not spawning in Java 1.14 try increasing you render distance to at least 11. I'm looki… https://t.co/6aN6hKH6zM (1 day and 20 hours ago)

void void
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

there's like tons of bugs

limber knotBOT
#

@fossil dust less mobs globally or less mobs per player? because the second one was always that way xD

void void
#

oh god phoenix you always scare me

limber knotBOT
#

"We do not have a good setup for testing servers right now" lmao

golden gust
#

Probably related to what mojang broke

#

I mean, that's not a new revelation tbh

fossil dust
#

It's funny Mojang always has great performance on their realms 🤔

#

But when it comes to third party server hosting it falls to shit

#

I have a conspiracy that they deliberately unoptimized it so they can run their servers better lmao

#

Because my friends have a realm right now with 6 people and they haven't experienced problems

void void
#

probably not even running the same server engine

#

😂

golden gust
#

Aren't realms much more heavily limited in terms of what you can do?

fossil dust
#

I believe so

void void
#

not as much as before

golden gust
#

ahhhh, laptop on low battery super slow ass mode

fossil dust
#

I haven't been on it so I'm just taking their word for what they're seeing

limber knotBOT
#

inb4 realms is running bedrock servers with a proxy in front

ornate spindle
#

I wonder how optimised servers would be if mojang had an actual good testing setup for servers

fossil dust
#

Yeah like vanilla almost runs worse that spigot does (on 1.14)

#

I have no idea how they could even let that happen

ornate spindle
#

if they had a decent testing setup, they would of realised long ago that player ticking gets rather intensive

limber knotBOT
#

they should just do an hour every week where they all play on a server with the latest dev-build...

#

or hell, I bet a lot of people at Microsoft play minecraft now and then too, just get all of them on a test server xD

ornate spindle
#

they have 74 employees minus support so they could honestly get away with just their own employees

#

they could also host it on some older hardware so that they didn't need as many players online to actually test the performance with an active playerbase

copper jay
void void
fading lichen
coarse urchin
#

I know a dev (was it jeb?) tweeted out they have a office server

#

But it was for bedrock :>

void void
#

im drunk as hayell

#

ok

limber knotBOT
#

Simple

#

drunk?

#

Who'da guessed

void void
#

fek u

golden gust
#

void void
#

reef gate
coarse urchin
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) ✓@jeb_ (Jens Bergensten): @beta_mcpe1 There are a few differences in UI and combat of course, but you get used to it very quickly. Either edi… https://t.co/cm6qWQ2iO0 (1 day and 2 hours ago)

ornate spindle
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no wonder 1.13 was so broken in terms of performance, they spent all their time on just bedrock edition when testing

limber knotBOT
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well jeb only develops game features, not actual code iirc

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but yeah, they should really have a java server for the develors that only work on java xD

coarse urchin
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they will use Realms (?

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Who knows

peak adder
wicked sphinx
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is there anyway to get rid of "can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running x ms or x ticks behind" when hosting a server? Or it's not as big of an issue and i shouldn't even worry about it

wide chasm
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If the server can't keep up, then that's sort of a problem

golden gust
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TPS loss is soomewhat normal and expected, you can look into it with timings

wicked sphinx
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it pops up not all the time it's even kinda rare tbh

golden gust
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(Worth noting that spigot disabled those messages until 1.14, stuff like saving the world can run over the expected time for a tick, so it's one of those "not ideal but not much you can do"

wicked sphinx
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how often world saves in spigot

golden gust
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for spigot I think that's configured in bukkit.yml

wicked sphinx
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i mean by default

patent fiber
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Hey all!

golden gust
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5 minutes by default

patent fiber
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If I wanted to get some help with some really laggy entitytick on my timings, where would I go around here?

golden gust
patent fiber
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Perfect thank you!

ocean ether
rocky lynx
lavish lily
wary tapir
limber knotBOT
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since banners are entities they shouldn't show up when you check for a block right

wide chasm
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Banners are block entities, not normal entities.

limber knotBOT
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so they still show up as a block if I do a getBlock?

wide chasm
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Yes

limber knotBOT
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ok thanks

daring atlas