general

[heady spear]

Teeth

Even eyes

[quasi valley]

thanks

[woven otter]

that's how big they can get

[olive garden]

Does that mean that they are human beings?

[spiral garden]

today in "information i definetely didn't need to know"

[heady spear]

They’re a part of your body, so it means you are a human being.

[spiral garden]

let's just brainwash myself in /r/sysadmin

[heady spear]

They can grow with you from when you’re born

So cool

[olive garden]

awww

that's adorable

[heady spear]

Also Z no delete PlotSquared

Apparently we have a proper release now

Sry

[woven otter]

delete Citymonster instead

[upper flicker]

you didnt before?

[heady spear]

This is the first full release since like 2015

[vestal jasper]

Imagine taking 4 years for a release omegalul

[olive garden]

celebrates
gets drunk
deletes it

[heady spear]

I got soap in my mouth

Tastes like corrosion

[olive garden]

Were you saying bad stuff?

[austere ivy]

If I was a drug, what kind of drug would I be.

[heady spear]

Yes, I needed to wash the dirty away

You’d be some stupid homeopathic shit

[austere ivy]

what heck

what's that supposed to mean

[heady spear]

Like camomile infused with influenza

[austere ivy]

ok like

ow

[cosmic raft]

camomile infused with marburg

[cerulean marsh]

@upper flicker hey, did you hear the sad news?

😦

[upper flicker]

uh

youre gonna need to be more specific

[heady spear]

R u gonna complain about being banned again?

[cerulean marsh]

I'm not complaining

[heady spear]

Not like you haven’t told the entire internet 55 times already

[cerulean marsh]

Banned from spigotmc for advertising papermc on my new domain. A domain I had in my signature xd

[austere ivy]

HHow do I get banned form spigotmc

[upper flicker]

were you banned for advertising papermc on the domain

or domain squatting spigots name

[quasi valley]

you were banned because of the domain not the ad

[heady spear]

Domain squatting.

[upper flicker]

yeeeaaaah see that doesnt even seem unreasonable

did you try and sell it to them

[limber knot]

Paper has nothing Todo with his ban

[heady spear]

^

[upper flicker]

because that always goes over well

"hey so Im squatting a domain with your name and if you pay me money Ill give it to you"

mmmmmm

yikes

[spiral garden]

welcome to the banned people club

https://ranked.is-la.me/7GhGdcP.png

[cerulean marsh]

I didn't buy it to sell them it. I had plans for it.

[spiral garden]

it's nice to have you onboard

[quasi valley]

like duck.com l

[upper flicker]

anyway

[heady spear]

I have vague memories of being banned

[austere ivy]

Wait, Z7, do you want paper.dev?

[upper flicker]

idk anything about your ban

no

[heady spear]

Don’t know if I actually got banned or not

[austere ivy]

ok so can I keep it >_>

[spiral garden]

how much chance do you give for me being able to get my plugin deleted off spigotmc

[upper flicker]

do you want it deleted from spigotmc

[spiral garden]

yes

[heady spear]

No he wants spigotmc deleted

Plz do that

[upper flicker]

well I cant help with that

[limber knot]

So just request it to be deleted

[heady spear]

You can’t delete spigot?

[spiral garden]

@heady spear tbh i'd love to delete spigotmc

[heady spear]

Useless staff. What is even the point then?

[spiral garden]

plotsquared too

[heady spear]

I will lick you

[limber knot]

Oh, btw, what is this jar file size shrink that md did all about

What did he remove?

[quasi valley]

i love their staff

[austere ivy]

wait

[quasi valley]

https://kennytv.eu/files/4ra3q.png

[worn ember]

i'll make a post "please release this domain, its squatted from spigot.dev"

[austere ivy]

I don't have paper.dev

😦

[olive garden]

"I didn't buy it to sell them it. I had plans for it."

Some time ago:

"What would people here pay for the domain spigot.dev?"
[...]

• "if md_5 is interested that is"

"I emailed him linking it to him"

[cerulean marsh]

I literally didn't buy it to sell it. I bought it in 2018. I had plans to use it. I didn't when I got it.

[cosmic raft]

you bought a .dev in 2018?

[cerulean marsh]

Pre-order.

[spiral garden]

i mean, spigot is a pretty vague word

[heady spear]

I will become a citizen of Monaco so I can buy spigot.mc

[worn ember]

spigot.eu

[spiral garden]

that's like saying sponge.dev violates the trademark of spongepowered

[limber knot]

It doesn't

[upper flicker]

no one said it did

[worn ember]

he just salty

[quasi valley]

[golden gust]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/builddata/commits/7886694452c8a42e0f708be0bb846c118bb7180a#mappings/bukkit-1.13.2.exclude

[quasi valley]

😂

[heady spear]

Face is actually trademarked by Facebook

[limber knot]

But buying it and then trying to sell it to sponge is just a shitty thing to do

[normal echo]

^^

[limber knot]

Ah thanks cat

[cosmic raft]

why am I not surprised

let's just break shit using fastutil

[limber knot]

Builddata is the only repo I didn't look at, lol

[golden gust]

I saw a mappings update, and yea....

(And yes. again.

[limber knot]

Yeah, I think citizens broke, somebody said that on the forums

[upper flicker]

does that mean I can remove the rewrite for it since md went and broke it anyway 😄

[worn ember]

@finite wave i broke intellij xD

it wont boot anymore after deleting some files, who wouldve thought

[vestal jasper]

So is another blanket is this another midversion mappings update?

[heady spear]

Stop being fail

[worn ember]

rip

[vestal jasper]

Nice I'm so sick my inability to properly type out messages is much worse

[golden gust]

Are we rewriting spigot > unmapped or the other way?

[heady spear]

Blame disease, sure.

[cosmic raft]

and I'm guessing he didn't bump the version either, even though he changed class names too

[spiral garden]

god bless R0.1-SNAPSHOT

[heady spear]

Y’all salty. Iggy Australia is just out here trying to enjoy life

Making some quality commits

[quasi valley]

as always

[upper flicker]

@golden gust there's a runtime rewrite for it to go from spigot's rewritten location to ours which is just it.fastutil whatever

[cosmic raft]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/commits/d3ed151625eee11050717b79f81f54aa813a0970

heh

[vestal jasper]

Fix dangerously threaded beacons
This message seems way funnier than it should

[upper flicker]

one less patch for us

[golden gust]

Ours is entitled "Shame on you mojang"

[finite wave]

@worn ember I told you you stupid fucking fish

[worn ember]

haha

[heady spear]

Why the fuck did the beacon use http utilities anyways?

[spiral garden]

does md just steal patches from paper now?

[finite wave]

Yes?

Is that new?

[upper flicker]

in fairness, that one he couldve found on his own

but generally yeah its happened

[heady spear]

Doesn’t he like cherrypick PRs without crediting people?

Or is that just a rumour? :p

[spiral garden]

lmao

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/Spigot-Server-Patches/0171-Shame-on-you-Mojang.patch

[worn ember]

it's happend

[vestal jasper]

I mean that's more patches that spigot users get.

[limber knot]

He did, ye

[coarse urchin]

HttpUtilities

Why

[upper flicker]

iirc we asked grum at some point about wtf they were thinking with that

and just got a "I didnt write that shit"

[coarse urchin]

lmao

[limber knot]

Guess it's notch code

[vestal jasper]

HyperTextTransferProtocolUtilities

[golden gust]

We did, and it's still there 😦

[heady spear]

Mojang don’t think

They do

[upper flicker]

its not notch code

[limber knot]

It's newer?

[golden gust]

Somebody checked if they're fixed that in the snapshot?

[upper flicker]

yes

[heady spear]

Let’s ban mojang

[limber knot]

Mmh, who else to blame?

I blame jeb

[upper flicker]

jeb is the lead

[cosmic raft]

it's still there in 19w11b

[heady spear]

Jeb is cool.

[spiral garden]

they probably have commit history

[upper flicker]

buck should always stop with him

[golden gust]

rip

[finite wave]

Jeb is ginger

[spiral garden]

so you should've asked who is responsible with this

[heady spear]

Jeb is Rudbeck alumnus.

[upper flicker]

thats what the role is for

[vestal jasper]

why is windows snap so incredibly fucking annoying

[worn ember]

qdjsfklqdjf it still breaks even after reinstalling owo

[vestal jasper]

holy shit give me KDE back PLEASE

[cosmic raft]

jeb is Chief Creative Officer

[heady spear]

Don’t complain about Jeb. Jeb got quality education.

[cosmic raft]

dinnerbone is Lead Engineer

[upper flicker]

...

lead engineer at mojang

[heady spear]

Rudbeck alumni can’t do no wrong.

[upper flicker]

or lead of the project

[cosmic raft]

no, for Minecraft Java Edition

[upper flicker]

well then I guess we can safely blame dinnerbone

and he can figure out who's fault it actually is internally

[heady spear]

Does anyone want to join me for a mojang field trip?

It’s only 2h away.

[limber knot]

git blame

😂

[spiral garden]

@heady spear oh yes

only 2200 km away

[heady spear]

Stop being outside of Sweden

[spiral garden]

https://ranked.is-la.me/ZaQNwR9.png

[fallen oracle]

No u

Includes a ferry

[heady spear]

I will take train there

[fallen oracle]

We're going on an adventrue!

[cosmic raft]

heh

[heady spear]

I’ll meet y’all in Stockholm in 2 hours, boys.

[limber knot]

1300km for me

[heady spear]

At the Starbucks in Stockholm Central

[cosmic raft]

starbucks

[heady spear]

Although I think there’s an espresso house there

Let’s meet at espresso house instead

[austere ivy]

Anyone live in Michigan?

[cosmic raft]

no

[limber knot]

No

[austere ivy]

yes

[heady spear]

Then we take the subway to Södermalm

[austere ivy]

<---

[limber knot]

We avoid murica

[heady spear]

And join Mojang at the office

Then we get brunch at Hermans

[spiral garden]

just the ferry from latvia to sweden is like 12 hours

that ferry be damn comfortable

[heady spear]

Oh, cyan boy

[limber knot]

If I get in my car now I'll be at the office when bone comes in 😂

[vestal jasper]

gg on cyan

[spiral garden]

o, i'm apparently notable now

thank you ❤

[cosmic raft]

no table

[vestal jasper]

notably bad

[spiral garden]

fair enough

[heady spear]

That ferry is nice, indeed,

[static badge]

that notable list is large

[upper flicker]

in league with citymonstret

yikes

[cosmic raft]

23 no table peoples

[heady spear]

Just make me moderator and he won’t have to deal with the shame no more.

[vestal jasper]

what if I have half a table?

[vernal moth]

It doesn't include you tho spotted

[upper flicker]

leaf has 🔥 role

[heady spear]

I am a problem solver

[spiral garden]

i'd like to confirm that notable gives nothing more than bragging rights, and to be honest even that's debatable

[static badge]

wat

[austere ivy]

How do I get fire role

do I set myself on fire

[finite wave]

kek

[austere ivy]

gas or wool

[static badge]

you be god tier

[spiral garden]

1. be leaf

[austere ivy]

what am I using

[static badge]

that's how :>

[spiral garden]

2. be leaf

[heady spear]

I had a raisin role

[spiral garden]

3. be leaf

[austere ivy]

Hey,

[vestal jasper]

ok

[heady spear]

I miss my raisin role

[austere ivy]

DoNotSpamPls.

Thanks ❤

[finite wave]

@spiral garden @spiral garden

[cosmic raft]

we kick spotteleaf so often that we have https://github.com/SpongePowered/limbo-config/blob/master/include/project/paper/discord/auto_role.xml setup to auto-add the roles to stop him from doing bad stuff when he re-joins

so there's that

[vestal jasper]

I am now a leaf

[austere ivy]

Me too

When do I get my lit role

[vernal moth]

Xml

[heady spear]

Vic just comes here to bully me

[austere ivy]

fiar

[static badge]

no way

[vernal moth]

Kashike pls

[static badge]

you pushed that shit to gh?

[austere ivy]

I'm just a no-role pleb 😦

[vestal jasper]

City your plugins suck

[cosmic raft]

it's been there forever yes

[heady spear]

Stop bullying me

[cosmic raft]

@vernal moth https://github.com/SpongePowered/limbo-config/blob/master/include/project/sponge/github/apply.xml

[vestal jasper]

Has 4 even been released yet?

[cosmic raft]

representing this stuff in json/etc would be absolute shit

[austere ivy]

Wait what does Spotted do xD

[heady spear]

Yes

[spiral garden]

what is limbo-app 👀

[cosmic raft]

my bot

[vestal jasper]

Took you 5 years

[austere ivy]

Wait.

LOL

[cosmic raft]

hi @void void

[heady spear]

4, actually,

[austere ivy]

No-reactions makes it so you can't use reactions?

[spiral garden]

owo

[cosmic raft]

yes

[austere ivy]

dumb-taco-hater makes.. what happen

[static badge]

which is retarded btw

[cosmic raft]

it does lots of stuff on github, and some on discord:

~paper-1867

[void void]

PAPER-1867: [Feature request] Add isSource() and getChangedBlockData() to BlockPhysicsEvent

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

• Now, commonly BlockPhysicsEvent will be called for 7 times when one block change(the "root" block). Paper's getSourceBlock() allows checking whether the block being updated is the root block itself, but it's veiled for most developers, we can simply add a method named like isSource() and simply return sourceBlock == block.

• There is a BlockData field called changed in BPE, however, we can only use getChangedType() instead of getting the block data directly, we can simply add a method like getChangedBlockData() and simply return it.

Describe the solution you'd like
Described above.

Describe alternatives you've considered
Aside from this, we can even add a new event called BlockChangedEvent for every source event, which is perfect for block change recording and monitor. (at World#notifyAndUpdatePhysics, blockdata1 is the old block)

Additional context
I have done some tests and works smoothly.

State: open | Author: cakoyo

[austere ivy]

Spottedleaf you're such an illegal person xD

[cosmic raft]

for example

[vestal jasper]

you don't become a dumb taco hater

[heady spear]

Kashike is the one that spam reacts the most

Plz ban

[woven otter]

https://github.com/SpongePowered/limbo-config/blob/master/include/project/paper/discord/auto_role.xml
😂 😂 😂

good one

[static badge]

the only god damn person in that file is me ffs

[cosmic raft]

:))

I added the entire feature just for you leaf :p

[austere ivy]

aw that's sooo sweet

❤

[spiral garden]

@cosmic raft that bot is actually pretty cool

[austere ivy]

it's basically a love novel

writes itself

[spiral garden]

what lib for discord interfacing?

[heady spear]

Vic, paper has more notables than we have Squares at IS

[cosmic raft]

my library

[static badge]

you messed that one up

[cosmic raft]

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/kassel/tree/master/src/main/java/net/kyori/kassel is the api
https://github.com/KyoriPowered/polar/tree/master/src/main/java/net/kyori/polar is the implementation

[austere ivy]

why not have kassel implement itself?

[cosmic raft]

@static badge https://github.com/KyoriPowered/limbo/commit/96139b5071adc95fb129e16d431ed22f0f6b226c

[upper flicker]

ah yes

[cosmic raft]

btw

[austere ivy]

you just gotta make

[upper flicker]

kashike's READMEs and docs are second to none

[spiral garden]

TIL kashike has a discord library

[cosmic raft]

thanks Z

[spiral garden]

@upper flicker can confirm that

[heady spear]

@vestal jasper I made you admin and you don’t work. We have meat sceptres in chat

[spiral garden]

might as well have no readme

[austere ivy]

public interface implementsItself implements this {
    public static myPotato();
}

boom

[vestal jasper]

Actually I don't have admin

[upper flicker]

last year for hacktober I just made a bunch of garbage README prs to kash's stuff

[austere ivy]

implements itself

[upper flicker]

so it does come in handy

[heady spear]

You have all admin perms besides the actual admin perm

[spiral garden]

btw stop bullying @heady spear for versions

[vestal jasper]

@heady spear

[spiral garden]

i'm even worse

https://ranked.is-la.me/A7h4oKY.png

[heady spear]

Because we wanted to gossip about you

[austere ivy]

oh goodness I forgot about this

https://github.com/T3hBrian/TehBot

[vestal jasper]

then I'm not an admin I'm a glorified mod

[austere ivy]

it's the best bot

IT HAS A POEM

oh goodness I need delet this

[heady spear]

Everyone gets mod in IS

[spiral garden]

woah let me join

[heady spear]

We have more moderators than users

[cosmic raft]

@spiral garden
issue moving: https://github.com/SpongePowered/SpongeForge/issues/2424
automatic closing of unsupported versions: https://github.com/SpongePowered/SpongeForge/issues/2329

among other things

[vestal jasper]

city I'm with planetminecraft give me op so I can review your server

[austere ivy]

Wait, City, can I get mod in IS

[heady spear]

You can get a ban?

[vestal jasper]

do it

no balls

[austere ivy]

: (

😢

[static badge]

hi im from pmc can i get admin to review ur discord serbur

[austere ivy]

wait no

DON'T MESS IT UP DISCORD

How do I disable that?

[upper flicker]

@static badge ok Ill transfer you guild owner 4 review

[austere ivy]

Aha!

:)

[static badge]

ok thx

[heady spear]

Spotted can 100% get admin

[static badge]

promise wont do bad

[austere ivy]

Hold up how can he get admin but I get ban.

[heady spear]

If I owned is I’d transfer it to you

You deserve it

[austere ivy]

Wait is ban actually a role to give me admin ( but secret ) ;)

HEY WAIT I WANT THE WINK EMOJI. Is it possible to filter it?

[static badge]

i hope u wouldn't tbh i literally wouldn't notice

[spiral garden]

wow nazi server

https://ranked.is-la.me/2S3GU34.png

[austere ivy]

:) stays as it is but ;) winks?

[upper flicker]

PlotBot is literally cancer

theyll ping you in there and youll try to respond hours later

and plotbot will stop you

its a garbage bot

[cosmic raft]

and yeah, re: readmes

[upper flicker]

I will dance on its grave when I kill it

[cosmic raft]

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/regionfile/pull/1/files
https://github.com/zachbr/IDEA-201168/pull/1/files

we helped each other

[upper flicker]

[cosmic raft]

[woven otter]

nooo what have you done

[cosmic raft]

fixed

[woven otter]

thanks

[upper flicker]

[static badge]

why has cancer evolved this way

[spiral garden]

why have leaves evolved

[static badge]

not even remotely the correct channel

[gloomy warren]

Wait, let me move it 😛

[spiral garden]

@upper flicker reason #781 to hate PlotBot

https://ranked.is-la.me/3feLW4X.png

[static badge]

mfw

[spiral garden]

i've always wondered

how is #paper even allowed on irc.spi.gt

and why is it not on espernet 👀

[cosmic raft]

it is on espernet too

[limber knot]

[@kashike] hi

[DoNotSpamPls] owo

Project Waterfall build #263: SUCCESS in 3 min 8 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/263/

[jade light]

Nice https://github.com/Server24-7/CloudSpigot/commit/4956baec4e1a1564ef54162e3db041c0ff3d10b7

I just found this Paper fork that just adds the volatile keyword everywhere you can

[vestal jasper]

TIL rixa bot lets you ban yourself

[heady spear]

@worn ember why the fuck did I trust fix’s bot?

[limber knot]

Reminds me of the time we had players asking us to temp-ban them so they could do their homework lol

[static badge]

.kotlin

[limber knot]

https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/289587909051416579/536809748184694794

https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/289587909051416579/540072678292324352

[worn ember]

hmmm

that bot has never been that great tbh

[vestal jasper]

@static badge if you load discord on mobile it bitches for you to download the app iirc

[woven otter]

okay that kotlin in those messages is pure cancer

[vestal jasper]

but if you can get through to the desktop portion then yes

[static badge]

:>

u got muted LUL

[heady spear]

Don’t attempt to ban yourself and you’re generally fine

[thorn shore]

Thanks, I actually came here why and how I would convince a server owner I know to switch to paper? atm we have to reduce hopper transfer speed because it lags, will paper fix this?

[normal echo]

Do they run 1.13?

[thorn shore]

Yes

[normal echo]

Async chunk loading reduces CPU load quite a bit

(well single core cpu load)

[thorn shore]

it's mostly tps drops ram usage is fine and cpu I can't access

[normal echo]

TPS drops would be helped by paper

[golden gust]

Paper has a patch which drastically improves the performance of hoppers, async chunks was also dropped from 1.13 spigot, meaning that 1.13 is much worse than 1.12.2

[thorn shore]

An example I personally have a large pigman farm with 22 spawners and whenever I grind for 2 minutes (I kill them very fast not even let them pile up) and tps already goes down by 5 ish

I am assuming that installing it won't be much of a problem, just swap out the spigot jar?

[jade light]

Yup

You don't even need to run buildtools

[finite wave]

Paper is drag and drop

[thorn shore]

So everything that exists today (world and plugin files can be reused?)

[jade light]

Yeah, Paper supports 99.9% of Spigot plugins

[thorn shore]

Thanks alot, will try to convince this server owner

[jade light]

😀

[vestal jasper]

The only plugin I know that doesn't work with paper, the plugin above, actually does work with paper

It just explicitly disables itself for no reason (so it doesn't actually work)

[finite wave]

DO NOT ASK WHY

GoldenCrates or smth

[vestal jasper]

Dev's just dumb

I wouldn't use his plugins

He's spent more time actively not supporting paper than he would if he supported it

[finite wave]

Does not

[heady spear]

Tbf ewg doesn’t work at all

[ancient bolt]

well fuck me for assuming dual booting was easy in 2019

Been running this dual boot for like 7 years

[vestal jasper]

it is easy

[heady spear]

Oh, we’re not talking about that anymore. Cool.

[ancient bolt]

this shit will not fucking boot

[heady spear]

It’s easy unless it isn’t

In which case it most certainly isn’t

[ancient bolt]

I think windows 10 is fucking with my uefi boot priorities

[vestal jasper]

The EWG dev called paper PaperSpigot

[limber knot]

@vestal jasper [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[vestal jasper]

^

[ancient bolt]

whcih like how the fuck

[heady spear]

It’s papercraftbukkit

Thought we established this

[vestal jasper]

yes

This version only works on Spigot 1.13.1 due to compiling issues. See the last update for PaperSpigot.

[limber knot]

@vestal jasper [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[vestal jasper]

how fucked is their setup

[heady spear]

.... failing due to compilation issues?

What

[vestal jasper]

Oh they have two updates per version

a spigot version and a paper version

[heady spear]

...

[heady spear]

What

[vestal jasper]

They don't know how to detect paper programmatically it seems

[void void]

wtf

inb4 because of that filthy obfuscation it has

[heady spear]

Am not surprise

[vestal jasper]

(paper) Will be supported later again.

huh

Imagine spending $40 then when 1.13 rolls around your $40 worlds are no longer usable

[amber tinsel]

They are so far i know, you just need to wait longer

[vestal jasper]

Then when the proper full 1.13.2 release is rolled out for the plugin they say that you can't use the plugin

[golden gust]

our async chunk stuff is somewhat of an issue for them as they hook into NMS

[amber tinsel]

Ahha

That explained it a bit better

[vestal jasper]

Important note: does not support upgrading from EWG 8.0.*

The plugin won't let you use old worlds

You need to make new ones

You CAN use them but they won't use the plugin's generation

[golden gust]

Which has pros and cons, e.g. there is no async chunk-gen API atm, so for bukkit plugins are forced to cause gen to be sync

[heady spear]

This exact discussion took place on here like 5h ago

[vestal jasper]

City I don't have a scroll wheel go away

[heady spear]

Well tbh every discussion on here is just a repetition of a previous one

[amber tinsel]

Ya.

Was discussed few hours ago too.

[finite wave]

“25”

[heady spear]

Wth is that

[vestal jasper]

I imagine EWG butchers performance doesn't it

[woven otter]

@heady spear C

[finite wave]

@heady spear Idk from the book where they explained pow wrong

[heady spear]

I meant the example lol

Wdym wrong. We established that pow is a number to the power of infinity

Everything else is a lie

[finite wave]

Yes im sry

They almost had it right

[heady spear]

No, a mathematician did do that

[amber tinsel]

When we used it it did not cause any lag @vestal jasper

[heady spear]

They never said he was a good one

[finite wave]

True

[thorn shore]

Paper is compatible with enjin right?

[amber tinsel]

(Not thatw e use it now anymore, but it did not cause lag back in those days so.)

[finite wave]

It was 100$ for the book anf yes @thorn shore

But i pirated it

Good choice since it was stupid

[heady spear]

Enjin is compatible with paper, not the other way around

Enjin uses the Bukkit APi

Lol lowercase i for effect

[finite wave]

Shush it works

@heady spear admire my sick skills https://u.teknik.io/1uvvt.png

[heady spear]

W o w

[thorn shore]

Just wanted to make sure, and I see you are a man of power using intelliJ

[heady spear]

I don’t like clion

Or rather, I don’t like cmake 😛

[finite wave]

@thorn shore ?

@heady spear I enjoy it

[heady spear]

I use vim for my c shit

[finite wave]

Nub

[thorn shore]

Wait it looks a lot like intelliJ but it's not?

[heady spear]

With some compiler plugins

It’s made by the same company

[finite wave]

Its a jetbrains product @thorn shore

[heady spear]

Using the same framework

[finite wave]

I’ve got IJ ult too

[heady spear]

All of their shit works the same

[thorn shore]

Yep I know I was wrong xd

[heady spear]

I got a student license, and an oss license

[finite wave]

Just for a diff lang

[thorn shore]

Same

[finite wave]

Just got student here

[heady spear]

I should probably buy it as well

Or rather, my boss should

[thorn shore]

I don't really want to buy it personally since it's quite expensive

[heady spear]

I got an extra oss license for PlotSquared that no one ended up using

[thorn shore]

But jetbrains products are awesome

[heady spear]

Then my account info got merged and now I can’t access it

What a waste.

At least we could add the jetbrains banner to the repo and pretend to be sponsored

[finite wave]

Nice

[wide hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/b25wtx/the_tiny_squeaks_of_a_baby_pika/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[limber knot]

I think I'm going to start sprinkling files named '-rf' around in directories

Makes accidental calls to rm * that much more fun

[finite wave]

Huh?

[limber knot]

wdym

[austere ivy]

rm * -rf --no-preserve-root

[limber knot]

rm * does not make it interpret -rf as an argument

[austere ivy]

fun.

yeah you should sprinkle files named *

[limber knot]

same goes for that

mikroskeem: rm * will make it interpret -rf as an argument

• will do a glob for all the files, they're returned in sorted order so -rf is first and if the first argument to a command starts with - it is parsed as flags

$ rm *

rm: cannot remove 'stop': Is a directory

Crap I'm struggling to make the -rf file to continue this demo :P

$ ls

-rf stop

$ rm *

(blank line)

It didn't remove the '-rf' file since that was parsed as flags, not a file to remove

[limber knot]

But it sure did just blow away that directory

(the fix is do to rm ./*, btw)

what shell?

bash?

Every POSIX shell

the fuck

Filenames in *nix land are fucked

Windows gets shit for not allowing things that seem like they should be fine, *nix has the opposite problem, it allows everything

But the rest of the system wasn't designed to deal with this

btw rm ./* only fixes the leading - problem, it won't help you with newlines, spaces, etc in filenames

[limber knot]

For that you have to do find . -type f -exec rm {} \;

Hope you can remember that, next time you wanted to use a glob :D

[golden gust]

Owh, that's stupid

Spigot broke testing from the IDE

Their nullablity annotations break some of the tests

[limber knot]

pfft, who runs tests

[potent warren]

@woven otter u

[woven otter]

wot

[upper flicker]

There must be no up above somewhere

[woven otter]

can you find it for me Z

[finite wave]

?

[static badge]

"no"

[austere ivy]

what heck

[left yacht]

tehbrian has transformed

nice

[austere ivy]

why are people like this

[gloomy warren]

Oh no, one more leaf on this discord

[wind mauve]

If I'm not mistaken, if you try to pass the letter "A" into a Parse() function without a try catch, it would result in a syntax error? or runtime error

[austere ivy]

o-O

[pearl ibex]

@cosmic raft, where are you? D:

[wind mauve]

its for this stupid assignment

dont see this shit anywhere in the book -_- https://i.imgur.com/e3hQuNU.png

[austere ivy]

uuhhhhh

prettyyyy suree it doesn't matter

[pearl ibex]

Runtime.

[wind mauve]

i guess runtime since that can mean many different types of errors

[ancient bolt]

battle.net launcher is currently downloading SCII at a nice calm 110MB/s

[pulsar wigeon]

depends entirely on what the Parse() function does/looks like

lul

void Parse(String a) { throw new LogicError();}

[cosmic raft]

I'm here @pearl ibex

[void void]

great to have you here kashike

this is why devs prefer linux, it doesn't 4GB to install a compiler

not visual studio, just compiler

[wind mauve]

oof

your purple, and I'm pink

I like that

😉

[void void]

💁

[wind mauve]

Just love me damnit.

❤

[gloomy warren]

I prefer Linux, cmake and Jetbrain's CLion.

[ancient bolt]

god steam downloads games so slowly

40MB/s?

what is this, 1970?

[woven otter]

not sure if sarcastic or not 🤔

[ancient bolt]

not

was downloading from battle.net just a few minutes ago at 3x the speed

[gloomy warren]

Where do you get such a fast connection?

[ancient bolt]

blood sacrifices to satan

[wide hazel]

only 40MB/s?

I'm sorry

[gloomy warren]

Can you send me some of your blood?

[wide hazel]

next time, use two SSDs in RAID 0 😛

a Gbit+ helps, too

[ancient bolt]

what kind of slow-ass SSDs are you using that are capped at 40MB/s??

[wide hazel]

none, I'm not capped. lol

(it's very slightly possible that maybe the connection might be slow 😉 )

[ancient bolt]

yeah steam is slow

that's what i was complaininga bout

[wide hazel]

on a side-note, london fog lattes are delicious

dunno what I've been missing

also yeh, Steam is a hair slow there

[ancient bolt]

im also downloading from origin too

one game just finished on steam

then doom started

but origin jumped up to 60MB/s

and now steam is at like 20 lol

they're fighting

[wide hazel]

lol

siblings, what can you do?

[cosmic raft]

∆

[austere ivy]

cough

why are people trying to doxx me

what did I do to them

[limber knot]

people have been trying to doxx me for the better part of a decade for a laugh

[acoustic pilot]

Can't get doxed if you dox yourself first ~_~

[limber knot]

I mean my face is a matter of public record

so is my name

[austere ivy]

I love people's arguments against me.

How did I cause so much drama.

Someone just said "For not just right away trusting someone who literally 2 weeks ago was saying "Libs aren't people"? Because the person he was responding to did that"

The person he was talking to about responding to was me.

Then another guy responded to the guy who said that with this:

"What are you even talking about? For the last 3 months, the only thing even vaguely political that u/TehBrian posted was a comic about not being able to use exposure to pay the rent. There are plenty of libs that would agree with him.

It's mostly minecraft and music. So.. You care to elaborate? Or are you just going to continue to fear monger?"

Goodness. I posted one comment and it spawned up.. 141 replies.

[static badge]

what's going on here

[austere ivy]

OK I'm going to go work on some plugins or maybe music or something ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[orchid pelican]

no god dam clue

[void void]

internet is happening

[orchid pelican]

all im noticing is theres 8 messages that should be 1 or 2

[acoustic pilot]

Need a Ron Paul "It's happening" GIF

[austere ivy]

People trying to doxx me and say I'm a racist white conservative (I'm hispanic thnx) because of one comment I said haha.

[void void]

very cool brian!

[orchid pelican]

maybe you are?

[austere ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-11730504

They said my comment history was "calling people libtards" and "afraid of brown people" and I'm pretty sure that you'd be hard-pressed to find anything but Minecraft and FL Studio in my comments lol.

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-itshappening-sanders-gif-5057818

[orchid pelican]

are you talking about in the paper mc discord?

[void void]

maybe they are just trolling you

[acoustic pilot]

Whenever I see libtard I think retard library

[orchid pelican]

spgiot-api

lol

[austere ivy]

Hopefully but some other people seem to disagree and some other people seem to agree. And some people who disagree with the people who agree with me are getting -60 karma ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

it's a highly scalable blazing fast sleep library

[void void]

at least 200% better than the sleep function that comes with your language

[austere ivy]

How did you make this amazing maymay, Prplz.

wait

no

TCC

[cosmic raft]

maymay

[orchid pelican]

whenever i see TCC all i think of is THC

[void void]

mémé

[orchid pelican]

love my life

[void void]

hello biteflux

[wide hazel]

why is TehBrian a leaf?

[acoustic pilot]

hullo prpls

[wide hazel]

and why do they have no-reacts? o.o

[austere ivy]

why is egg82 an egg?

HOLD UP WHAT

who did this

can I sue

[wide hazel]

am confuse

[austere ivy]

me too, egg, me too :(

OK see you folks!

[cosmic raft]

what

[gloomy sphinx]

this is what happens when you spend too much time with spotted

[austere ivy]

^

I can verify that.

[void void]

i see tcc's name and think of tcc, the tiny c compiler

[true canyon]

Whoa, I go away for a bit and suddenly there's a billion channels and someone blindly trusted egg with power!

[cosmic raft]

hi mbax :)

[wide hazel]

I figured Discord desktop would catch up with the new Unicode emotes soon enough

it's been a long time, and yet I still just see a square

[void void]

https://bellard.org/tcc/

[wide hazel]

also, yeah, who was the dummy that trusted mbax with power? 😛

[true canyon]

Unicode in nicknames is system dependent not discord dependent

[wide hazel]

rip Win 10

that explains some things

[void void]

weird that some areas it doesnt use twemoji

[wide hazel]

it'll be about 10 years before I see a sponge I guess

maybe 8 if I'm lucky

[true canyon]

Gotta be on Win10 1809 or later, for windows

[limber knot]

His box is just a box for me on three OSes

[wide hazel]

I damned well should be, if it's stable. lol

[true canyon]

Android... pie? Maybe nougat? Or later

[cosmic raft]

box?

in mbax's name you mean?

[true canyon]

The sponge, kashike

[cosmic raft]

it's a sponge

[limber knot]

I guess it's some emoji

[wide hazel]

yeah, I can see it on my Pixel 3

[limber knot]

Oh hey it works on my phone now

[true canyon]

Woo!

[wide hazel]

https://i.imgur.com/wcaY3SZ.png

is it not stable or something?

[true canyon]

That's 180...4? 3? Whatever the one that's roughly a year old is.

[wide hazel]

strange

I was fully up to date just last week

dafaq

now I'm confused AND concerned

[true canyon]

I help out with a largely left alone cart of laptops at work, identical models. Half of them upgraded to 1809 the other half come back as "no updates available" but are on 17134 which is how I recognized that number as being 1803.

[wide hazel]

ah, right, 4 was the October update that never went out

whew

er

9

whatever

[true canyon]

https://superuser.com/questions/1389692/windows-10-update-1809-not-offered-even-if-i-manually-search-for-it

1809 did go out, just delayed 😛

[wide hazel]

yeah, think it was manual for a bit

[true canyon]

There's a suggestion in the above linked page that might make it show up.

[wide hazel]

and saw some issues with boot looping

again

[cosmic raft]

love the versions

[wide hazel]

"Redstone update" lol

[cosmic raft]

Windows 10
Windows 10 1511
Windows 10 1607 / Server 2016
Windows 10 1703
Windows 10 1709
Windows 10 1803
Windows 10 1809 / Server 2019

[true canyon]

Yeah, it sure was! And I manually upgraded shortly before the "It's deleting all user files for some folks" news stories started happening. Panic!

[wide hazel]

hahaha

yeah, that explains why I didn't get it

[true canyon]

But it was my work device and all my stuff is sync'd to onedrive so *shrug*

[wide hazel]

to be fair, I now have an "update and shut down" on my menu

so that's a thing

wonder if it's the update?

still a pain to get back though

lotta data for me

will take some time

[true canyon]

If you go to updates it'll show what it wants to install?

Also @wide hazel
All your files are exactly where you left them*

[wide hazel]

lol

[limber knot]

I think they didn't want to use the term evergreen so went with a minecraft-inspired similar name :P

[wide hazel]

checking..

https://i.imgur.com/aW5WpSg.png

welp

no dice yet

I could manually check, but

ehhhhh

seems dangerous still

[true canyon]

Pretty sure 1809 has been fine since november

[wide hazel]

maybe

wonder when it'll auto-update

[cosmic raft]

yes

[wide hazel]

lol

good answer

https://i.imgur.com/auRzUlM.png

yay

I thought about the name

am lazy

don't care right now

might later

oh well

https://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/Alex_Mason

[true canyon]

gotg-thats-a-made-up-word.gif

[wide hazel]

makes me feel cool

oh, the irony- didn't know Alex Mason was CIA

TIL

I'mma hide out in general and off-topic mostly until my school stuff dies down a bit and I can finally put some focus back into Minecraft

I haven't even touched a Java IDE in weeks, 'cept for a couple hours yesterday for a school project

good news is now we can count the number of people that walk through the lab door

[austere ivy]

e

[wide hazel]

ALSO our school's team has proven that we're the best sysadmins in the state, above even the airforce academy, etc

which is neat

[cosmic raft]

phew

https://i.imgur.com/eT8ow6O.png

my sponge invite has been used 3001 times now

[wide hazel]

send kash a cake 😛

or a cat treat. Not sure which

both

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-gif-11478682

[wide hazel]

lol

I should make that more specific- we're the best college sysadmins in the state

which feels cool

I mean, we beat the goddamned airforce academy here at sysadmin-stuff. Which just feels insane to me

we should have been trounced

that one's going on my resume

[gloomy sphinx]

when you say sysadmin do you mean apt update && apt -y upgrade?

[wide hazel]

we had Ubuntu 11

what's an "update"?

we also didn't have any search engine

and a professional red team attacking our systems constantly

I had to kick them out when we started

so yes, sysadmins. lol

I fuckin' EARNED that title

I fought hard for it

I kept an FTP service alive on a box that had no firewall, a 2-year-old WP install that I had no creds for alive on a box I couldn't update, another FTP service, another WordPress, two MySQL servers, and two bind9 DNS servers- all against a pro red team, and all so out-of-date I couldn't even update them- and without much internet access myself

EARNED. That title.

I feel like I earned that title years ago, but now I've just proven it

[void void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) NCIS 2 IDIOTS 1 KEYBOARD - length 51s - 16,406 likes, 534 dislikes (96.8%) - 3,287,829 views - Ricardo Figueiredo on 2010.08.20

[wide hazel]

"pro red team" meaning DoD hackers

[void void]

like this?

[wide hazel]

it certainly felt like that

I never asked them during the debrief about my "whoami" thing- I completely forgot to

am sad now

every time they would try to run "whoami" it would just run "kill -9 $PID" instead

[void void]

lol

[wide hazel]

my little "gift"

[void void]

is that useful? isnt there more ways to figure out who you are?

[wide hazel]

Metasploit/Meterpreter automatically runs it at startup

[void void]

ah, smart

[wide hazel]

if they got a shell, it would just immediately kill itself

unless they coded one by hand

and who has time for that?

also I blocked all outbound, so hey

did that in the first couple hours

after that, I didn't seem to get many attackers

[austere ivy]

hslhae

[wide hazel]

'cept for web stuff

unfortunately I couldn't install anything, though

ah well

evil bastards gave me a laptop without local admin and a clock set in 2013 so all I got were SSL errors

[void void]

i've had that before

"why wont windows activate", clock was way off

[wide hazel]

unactivated Win 7, yeah

unfortunately I couldn't even fix it

so I just had to deal without any websites with SSL

which is all of them

by the way

[cosmic raft]

hehe

[wide hazel]

that's why I say, if I beat the goddamned airforce with that laptop, and against DoD hackers, I fuckin' earned my "sysadmin" badge. lol

apparently they gave up on my boxes after the first day and targeted the Windows guys instead

I was just super paranoid all day about it, thinking they somehow were in without any outbound connections

but yeah, does mean I've been out of commission the last couple weeks, and now I'm just catching up on school stuff

soon, though

soon

[austere ivy]

here, egg

soon™

[slim nymph]

just foundout that bukkits class loaders doesnt check its own class loader first to find a class o.o

[golden gust]

Yea, it's spr awesome

[slim nymph]

i abused that to do https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/goldencrates-1-13.280629/page-16#post-3342966 lol

just put the file in my own plugin, made it loadbefore JupiterCore

but you know class loader performance could of been a bit faster if it didnt go search every other plugin first -_-

[coarse urchin]

inb4 that guy makes the plugin disable if your plugin is found :^}

[stiff yarrow]

@slim nymph where do the numbers for paper server coverage come from? is it just bstats data?

[coarse urchin]

No, not that.

I mean that inb4 that guy releases an update that detects if that plugin aikar made is loaded, and if yes the plugin disables itself

[gloomy sphinx]

ah rip misread

[slim nymph]

@stiff yarrow yes, 1.13.2 paper stats / all 1.13.2 stats on bstats

[gloomy sphinx]

DOES NOT COMPATIBLE WITH PAPER!

DOES NOT COMPATIBLE WITH AIKAR!

[stiff yarrow]

but not 1.12?

[slim nymph]

if we include 1.12 its like 32%~

[coarse urchin]

🦀 Paper support 🦀

[stiff yarrow]

I'll just say that seems a tiny bit deceptive to say paper runs on 42% when you really mean it runs on 42% of 1.13 servers

[coarse urchin]

Does that also count vanilla or just bukkit forks

[stiff yarrow]

if its bstats it would only be counting bukkit/sponge

[slim nymph]

thats the current up to date version

unsupported stuff doesnt matter

1.12 will be dropped eventually

[stiff yarrow]

I thought paper was still supporting 1.12

[slim nymph]

yes, but its not 'wrong' 😛 just not 'all of the variations'

https://aikar.co/paperstats.php

[stiff yarrow]

I'm not trying to say "shame on you" but I definitely would not be phrasing the usage like that, I think papers numbers are incredible though

[slim nymph]

to plugins that only support latest versions, such as that golden crates for example, its a factual number

[acoustic pilot]

Does Spigot support 1.12.2?

[slim nymph]

yeah

[stiff yarrow]

I want to say I'm being pedantic about it

[acoustic pilot]

Like it still gets updates?

[stiff yarrow]

but that's maybe not the right word

[slim nymph]

yes

[acoustic pilot]

Oh okay

[slim nymph]

they patched the dupe on spigot (but not SCB)

[stiff yarrow]

SCB?

[slim nymph]

SpigotCraftBukkit 😛

channeling the @true canyon

[coarse urchin]

SuccCraftBukkit

[stiff yarrow]

What's the difference?

[slim nymph]

CraftBukkit as a project shutdown

md5's CB isnt the original CB

[stiff yarrow]

Oh nice

Oh I see

you are making that distinction

I get it now

[slim nymph]

so its more proper to say it's Spigots version of CraftBukkit 😛

[stiff yarrow]

and to be fair, it is

[acoustic pilot]

It's not like md5 got any blessing from Bukkit leadership.

So yeah

Noteworthy distinction

[stiff yarrow]

@slim nymph to be fair Aikar I was actually making a comment on your signature image, ofc I only saw your signature from you linking that goldencrates post

[acoustic pilot]

In fact for a long time, Bukkit team and those in proximity were adamant that there is no Bukkit 1.8 😃

[stiff yarrow]

did the ptero guys switch to paper yet?

[acoustic pilot]

Yeah, the Paper egg went into release

Replaced Spigot

[stiff yarrow]

paper egg?

[acoustic pilot]

Egg is just Ptero's system for installing software

[stiff yarrow]

I actually have so many "complaints" from users whose server owners refuse to use anything but craftbukkit

[acoustic pilot]

Some people are uptight about being as close to vanilla behavior as possible lol

[stiff yarrow]

most the time they don't even know what paper or spigot is

[acoustic pilot]

In that case, no idea. Must be living under a rock lol

[stiff yarrow]

I've found often the server admins are surprised to learn that paper/spigot can also run bukkit plugins

[austere ivy]

really? o-O

[stiff yarrow]

yes

[fallen oracle]

General question. Say you have a group of people, kind of like a faction, and within that faction, people have the ability to invite others by codes. Say someone invited someone via a code and messed everything up, would you want to know who invited that person in the first place?

[limber knot]

what

Would I want to know?

[slim nymph]

its hard to believe people wouldnt know what spigot is this day

[fallen oracle]

Would you want to know the name of the player that invited the other player to the faction?

[limber knot]

I mean sure, but what do you mean they messed everything up

[austere ivy]

NO

I thought I made a new nice sounding chord progression.

[fallen oracle]

Like they griefed or something

[limber knot]

oh

[austere ivy]

it's just another minor 1-5-7 🤦

[limber knot]

yes of course, that's basic audit

[fallen oracle]

It was just a theoreitcal question decide if I add the uuid of the user who created the edits

[limber knot]

do log that

[fallen oracle]

Alrighty I'll add that

[limber knot]

well, maybe not a uuid, make a user's table that has id<->uuid and then in the invites table do inviter_id, invited_id

[austere ivy]

Aikar, why do I have no-reactions role ;<

[limber knot]

but that's a different topic i guess

[austere ivy]

I think this is leafism.

[cerulean marsh]

hey aikar, add me lol

[austere ivy]

no >:(

[slim nymph]

but @stiff yarrow re signature image, one could choose many ways of reporting metrics in it. I could report 1.12, but then soon as we drop 1.12, and it jumps back up into 40's, that seems suspicious. one cant report "all versions", as noone has that data, nor is it relevant. only supported versions is relevant. So my metrics basically count "1.13.2+" with the idea that 1.12 will be dropped soon-ish.

even showing 1.12 still is a good percentage, but excluding a maintenance version isn't really dishonest IMO 😛

[cerulean marsh]

😠

[austere ivy]

cough

with the idea that 1.12 will be dropped soon-ish.

never! I resist!

[cerulean marsh]

1.8.8 is still super popular, I doubt it will ever change tbh

[austere ivy]

Yikes not that far back.

Do people not understand how easy it is to revert the combat changes that came with 1.9?

You can do it with one vanilla commandblock.

[cerulean marsh]

they say it "feels different"

[austere ivy]

huh

[coarse urchin]

I mean

It does

[limber knot]

you cannot have the same pvp in 1.9+

[slim nymph]

you can quack like a duck in 1.9+

[limber knot]

maybe :D

[void void]

disable pvp

then the players wont even know

[austere ivy]

^^^^^^^^^^

that, a million times.

can't be broken if it isn't there

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

cant complain if they cant use it

[limber knot]

our survival server is 1.13.2 and its fine (at least for pve), but for pvp i still prefer playing in 1.8 on 1.8 servers

[void void]

the gap is so big now that even if they perfectly fixed it, people will stay on 1.8

that's just how people are

[limber knot]

yes that might be true

[merry talon]

stackoverflow is down

I cant code

[limber knot]

and for servers its even more problematic, because they would have to update so much when going from 1.8 to 1.13.2 - and often the original plugin authors are just no longer active

[austere ivy]

oh no

stackoverflow is down?

welp, I guess all coding across the entire world has stopped, halted, and will no longer happen till it's back.

[stiff yarrow]

@slim nymph yeah, if it were me I'd probably only feel comfortable with the signature image saying "42% of 1.13.2 Servers", if I were say, to put something like that in my signature, but I overthink stuff

Anyways, that's all I really had to say on the subject

[slim nymph]

that would be ugly in the image 😛

no room

@acoustic pilot hmm why isnt delombok working for me https://gist.github.com/aikar/14734b816447e78df85673d0e09acb3c

oh hmm maybe cause i ran javadoc w/o a compile step

i see delombok output in a rerun

nope still no good

[acoustic pilot]

How are you running mvn?

[slim nymph]

mvn clean install javadoc:jar

[acoustic pilot]

Should be something like mvn clean package -P deployment since it's in the deployment profile.

I stuck it in there because that's where all the sources and javadoc are already being built

[slim nymph]

note im doing this on my plugin not waterfall

[acoustic pilot]

Oh

[slim nymph]

ive been meaning to do it for my plugin even though noone uses the javadocs 😛

[acoustic pilot]

At a glance the configuration looks fine, but you could try explicitly specifying a <phase> in your javadoc configuration and then omitting the javadoc:jar part.

Also changing the goal to jar (the jar goal will generate the javadocs still)

Any interesting output you can share?

Oh

I know what's up @slim nymph