#waterfall-help | PaperMC | Page 65

reef fulcrum Nov 4, 2021, 3:34 PM

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generally, bind the servers on the ptero interface and connect to the servers from waterfall using those IPs

tidal musk Nov 4, 2021, 7:50 PM

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its nothing wt the firewall

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https://pterodactyl.io/community/games/minecraft.html#configuring-a-server-network-bungeecord-waterfall-hexacord-etc

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it is nothing wt that

idle nimbus Nov 4, 2021, 7:59 PM

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got strange problem some players which are from same city got big ping

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and they time out

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it happens randomly

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no plugins on waterfall

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and no plugins on paper side

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1.17

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server

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it is hetzner dedicated machine

tidal musk Nov 4, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Sounds like it could be some sort of networking issue outside of your control, if it doesn't happen to other players

idle nimbus Nov 4, 2021, 8:08 PM

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tidal musk Sounds like it could be some sort of networking issue outside of your control, i...

well it happens to 2 staff members I am fine

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all smooth

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they are like 200km away of me so it could be there data centar

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in there city

rigid nebula Nov 4, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Am i confused now or something, how do i set up the forced hosts?

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Domain_name: targeted server?

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It's basically not letting me join to the survival server using subdomains

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 9:57 AM

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anyone?

reef fulcrum Nov 5, 2021, 9:58 AM

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hostname: server

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only time it fails is if for some reason the client is sending a different name

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(or if there is a plugin overriding it)

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Hmm

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So subdomain.domain: servername

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Idk what the client is sending, all i see logged is an ip adress

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And I'm not sure if the reconnect plugin forces hub, i tried removing plugins too but didn't work

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What about viaversion? Could that change the behavior?

royal hawk Nov 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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rigid nebula So subdomain.domain: servername

subdomain.domain.tld: servername
Keep in mind that:

SRV records only work here if they point to an A-Record (and even then it might fail) and an A record itself is behind the SRV record
If you use cloudflare you need to disable cloudflare for that subdomain
Ports will be ignored
CNAMEs will not correctly report, always use A-Records

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For 4) Keep in mind that even flattened CNAMEs fall under that

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:15 PM

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Hmm

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Oh that makes sense

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The A records are proxied through cloudflare

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That's probably why then

royal hawk Nov 5, 2021, 12:15 PM

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That will break it

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:15 PM

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I see

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That's why then lmfao

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Rip

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I have an a record and a srv to my bungee

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I guess ip lookup shows the vps ip then lol

royal hawk Nov 5, 2021, 12:19 PM

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rigid nebula I guess ip lookup shows the vps ip then lol

You can’t prevent that if you want to have the minecraft server accessible

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Unless you pay for spectrum

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:19 PM

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true

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spectrum.. i guess it's more than 10 euro per month?

royal hawk Nov 5, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Well yes a lot more. Requires the pro plan at least + you pay for each gigabyte of bandwidth over 5

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Not worth it

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:20 PM

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ok so
A records points to IP
SRV record points to subdomain.domainname

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:21 PM

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royal hawk Well yes a lot more. Requires the pro plan at least + you pay for each gigabyte ...

oh jeez

royal hawk Nov 5, 2021, 12:22 PM

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Best scenario:
Your target is subdomain.example.tld
A subdomain > IP
SRV _subdomain > subdomain (A)

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:22 PM

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oh

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SRV is uh _minecraft

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or wait

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lemme copy it

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SRV name is like the subdomain name
service _minecraft
protocol TCP etc

royal hawk Nov 5, 2021, 12:23 PM

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the issue is simple: minecraft doesn’t always fill the hostname field with the SRV record name so having the same name on the A record gives you that insurance

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:23 PM

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the same name as in subdomain or the full domain name?

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i did set the name on both the srv and a record to the subdomain's name

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so do i have to change the service name from _minecraft to _subdomain?

royal hawk Nov 5, 2021, 12:25 PM

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rigid nebula SRV name is like the subdomain name service _minecraft protocol TCP etc

That’s already what I was talking about. Should be good

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 12:26 PM

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ah alright

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 1:26 PM

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Thanks! It works

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Btw any plugins recommended for waterfall?

tidal musk Nov 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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how

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acn

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can

severe badger Nov 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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By not using enter as delimiter

tidal musk Nov 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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i make it so it show under my npc how many players it is in my otther bungee server?

upbeat wave Nov 5, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Any idea what might be causing players to get disconnected?
https://mclo.gs/94sBON4 - Is it AntiVPN at fault here or? because theres multiple errors.

reef fulcrum Nov 5, 2021, 6:33 PM

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I mean, come on...

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You have a lookup for the session server, it times out

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All your players then time out like, less than 10 seconds later

upbeat wave Nov 5, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Well i'm not that bright, i just wanted to make sure it actually was what i was seeing

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thank you though

rigid nebula Nov 5, 2021, 8:14 PM

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What is waterfall changing what causes leaderboards to glitch out? Basically what's happening is that after a while no leaderboard updates anymore and they're fixed

violet hound Nov 5, 2021, 8:44 PM

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What does this error mean regarding my database?

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And how would I fix

reef fulcrum Nov 5, 2021, 9:15 PM

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erm, you ran a bad query

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or whatever caused that exception ran a bad query

violet hound Nov 5, 2021, 9:16 PM

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Well my issue that one of my plugins can't connect to my datbase

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and I thought that might be the issue

reef fulcrum Nov 5, 2021, 9:17 PM

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probs bad config or something, idk

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speak to the plugin author?

violet hound Nov 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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it worked before, and then all of a sudden my database started acting up

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 1:50 PM

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hi

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there is something like op in the bunge?

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to have all the perms?

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:07 PM

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no, use a perm plugin

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:08 PM

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ok, and how?

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:08 PM

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reef fulcrum no, use a perm plugin

i mean, what perms ?

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:08 PM

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don't mention

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and what?

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Install luckperms, etc, on your network, it lets you manage perms and even supports a wildcard, not that that is recommended, but, you can

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:09 PM

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reef fulcrum Install luckperms, etc, on your network, it lets you manage perms and even suppo...

amd the wildcard is for all the commands, right?

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Stop mentioning.

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:10 PM

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ah, sorry

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:10 PM

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The wildcard would be a wildcard for perms

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:10 PM

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is because i response

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:10 PM

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I recommend using LP for permissions, especially on networks, they have a wiki which goes over how to use the plugin and set it up, etc

tidal musk Nov 6, 2021, 2:11 PM

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pulsar python is because i response

(Hint: hit shift while clicking reply to automatically toggle off the ping)

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:12 PM

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reef fulcrum I recommend using LP for permissions, especially on networks, they have a wiki w...

i use ir

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:12 PM

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tidal musk (Hint: hit shift while clicking reply to automatically toggle off the ping)

ok, thanks

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:12 PM

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what?

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:12 PM

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*i use it

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luckyperms

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but i have a issue

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when i try to use commands i cant

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essentials commands and a lot of plugins commands

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but i does not recive any message

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Which would have nothing to do with waterfall, unless you had some weird plugin on it

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:20 PM

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if i conect directly to the server i dont have that issue

reef fulcrum Nov 6, 2021, 2:20 PM

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if you can connect directly to the server, you've not configured it properly for one

pulsar python Nov 6, 2021, 2:21 PM

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but i set off the spigot bunge for tests

lost wharf Nov 6, 2021, 6:15 PM

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hi, my waterfall have issue when player join to the server they are drop down void new continue load terrain

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royal hawk Nov 6, 2021, 6:35 PM

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lost wharf

.paste your config please. What plugins are you running on the server and waterfall

marble kelpBOT Nov 6, 2021, 6:35 PM

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lost wharf Nov 6, 2021, 6:35 PM

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config for waterfall?

royal hawk Nov 6, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Yes

lost wharf Nov 6, 2021, 6:35 PM

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hold on

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/9e855c580bab4752a4c8ddf57f110666

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I using on waterfall
bungeeguard
multilobby
tab
and spark
luckperm

royal hawk Nov 6, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Okay, what’s the distance between waterfall and your server(s)

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Like the physical distance

lost wharf Nov 6, 2021, 6:38 PM

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localhost

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same machine

royal hawk Nov 6, 2021, 6:39 PM

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I have a feeling that this is the windows 10 loopback problem all over again

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02think

lost wharf Nov 6, 2021, 6:40 PM

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client problem?

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7103zerounderstand

royal hawk Nov 6, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Does it work with a vanilla client? Because I don’t think it would make a difference

lost wharf Nov 6, 2021, 6:41 PM

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it same thing

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i try 2 client

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and not different

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it take 3-4s to load

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and put me back to spawn

sacred furnace Nov 7, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Hi, im having some problems: i have setup waterfall on my pc and it was working all fine, but when i moved it to replit, it wasn't allowing me to connect to the server. What i have made wrong?

reef fulcrum Nov 7, 2021, 11:32 AM

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We don't support people abusing 3rd party services.

sacred furnace Nov 7, 2021, 11:35 AM

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"abusing"?

reef fulcrum Nov 7, 2021, 11:35 AM

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I highly doubt that the intent of replit is to allow people to run minecraft servers on.

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Not to mention, such services often have weird setups and other quirks, so, you're on your own there

sacred furnace Nov 7, 2021, 11:35 AM

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im running the mc server in a mc server hoster

reef fulcrum Nov 7, 2021, 11:35 AM

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replit

sacred furnace Nov 7, 2021, 11:35 AM

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im using replit to host the proxy

reef fulcrum Nov 7, 2021, 11:35 AM

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just buy a cheap VPS

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It's not the intent of those services to allow you to host stupid stuff on them, we do not provide support for what is basically misuse of these services especially when they often do stuff that prevents such things from happening

sacred furnace Nov 7, 2021, 11:36 AM

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ok

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and how i restart a proxy from console?

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it says cmd not found

Captura_de_ecra_2021-11-07_as_11.36.57.png

reef fulcrum Nov 7, 2021, 11:37 AM

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there is no restart command

sacred furnace Nov 7, 2021, 11:37 AM

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oh

reef fulcrum Nov 7, 2021, 11:37 AM

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you need to stop it with the end command and then start it again

sacred furnace Nov 7, 2021, 11:37 AM

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ok, thx

jaunty grove Nov 7, 2021, 4:06 PM

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im having issues with my waterfall that i just set up

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https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/olupewoqal.yaml

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it connects me to the server just fine after some messing about

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but in the minecraft client server list, sometimes it shows the bungee config set player limit of 1337, sometimes it shows the landing servers limit of 100

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and if it does show the 1337 of the bungee, there is no MOTD. but if the 100 is there, it shows MOTD

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just found out that if it shows the bungee player cap of 1337, the MOTD of the first entry of the "servers" list is shown

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yeah, sometimes the MOTD and player count / limit of the target server "bleed through" 😐

marble kelpBOT Nov 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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do you have ping-passthrough disabled?

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and holy fuck, hastebin.com got sold

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and it looks like you disabled, odd

jaunty grove Nov 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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its quite rare

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maybe a bug

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🙂

digital orbit Nov 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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is the latest Waterfall build compatible with 1.8.8?

reef fulcrum Nov 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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yes

digital orbit Nov 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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ok thanks

slender bridge Nov 8, 2021, 8:40 PM

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is there any plugin can do console to discord, discord to console?
for bungee/waterfall

pulsar python Nov 8, 2021, 11:04 PM

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Hi

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How many ram I need for 100 players?

marble kelpBOT Nov 8, 2021, 11:15 PM

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without plugins maybe 256MB or 512MB at most

tidal musk Nov 9, 2021, 5:16 AM

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Do all bungeecord plugins work with waterfall

shut cape Nov 9, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Should work

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If it doesn't then you might reconsider using the plugin...

tropic wren Nov 9, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Send me download waterfall for minecraft 1.8 please

marble kelpBOT Nov 9, 2021, 1:03 PM

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.downloads

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https://papermc.io/downloads

slender bridge Nov 10, 2021, 1:06 PM

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how to set admin?

slender bridge Nov 10, 2021, 1:07 PM

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tropic wren Send me download waterfall for minecraft 1.8 please

latest version support that
and waterfall/bungeecord dosen't have map

young rampart Nov 10, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Install a permission plugin

slender bridge Nov 10, 2021, 1:07 PM

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young rampart Install a permission plugin

witch permission plugin?
for waterfall

young rampart Nov 10, 2021, 1:08 PM

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LuckPerms or BungeePerms

dull flume Nov 10, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Hey all, weird situation here. We updated most of our stuff back in July when MC updated. Since then I've been super busy with family issues and whatnot. Our server is getting some attention tho and I wanted to jump back in and update things and work out some bugs. I downloaded the latest Paper and Waterfall builds and threw them in. The proxy and backend server both load, but Waterfall cannot load PlaceholderAPI, Vault, or ProtocolLib... I've never seen this before. I backed down through about 5 versions of Waterfall to see if one of them would work and none do, including the version we had in before I updated today, and all give the same error. Looking through logs, it seems this issue only started 2 days ago on the 8th. Does anyone have any idea why these (up to date) plug ins suddenly can't be loaded by Waterfall? Thanks to anyone willing to assist!!!

nocturne fog Nov 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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.paste the error you're getting please, that'll give a clue as to the reason

marble kelpBOT Nov 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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prisma whale Nov 10, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Does PlaceholderAPI, Vault, etc even run on Bungee?

tidal musk Nov 10, 2021, 6:41 PM

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hello, anyone knows how I can add / in the messages.properties files without the slash being removed after restarting/loading the config

reef fulcrum Nov 10, 2021, 6:54 PM

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\/? maybe, forget how properties files work there

thorn ridge Nov 10, 2021, 9:04 PM

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hey all is there a guide or wiki on configuring haproxy with a minecraft server?

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right now I'm getting this

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oops how did I get in this chat

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1 sec

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#paper-help

dull flume Nov 11, 2021, 3:35 AM

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This is the old version, 443, that started throwing errors a couple of days ago. Won't load the 3 plugins I mentioned above. Of course I didn't know it was throwing errors until I tried to update today and started looking through logs.
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/2cb317bf18b943a78a37cc4a7a0c400b

This is the first attempt to update Waterfall. 452 I believe, latest version.
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/485a4c443c594bce8f3ea7de6ff6e12b

Thanks so much to anyone who can help. If I need to provide any more info please let me know.

nocturne fog Nov 11, 2021, 3:36 AM

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dull flume This is the old version, 443, that started throwing errors a couple of days ago....

I think there may be a mistake here, those are all bukkit/paper plugins, not bungee plugins. They will never have loaded

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 3:37 AM

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well, placeholder API is a bukkit plugin, not a proxy/bungee plugin for one

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ah, yea, all of those plugins

dull flume Nov 11, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Well butter my biscuit and call me a carriage... I've had all three of these plugins on my proxy for over a year... I was sure I needed them for some of my bungee'ed plugins. I'll try disabling them and see what happens. Thanks for the input.

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 6:57 AM

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I'm really not that bright in the arena of proxies so forgive me.
But how in the world can 127.0.0.1 get timed out?

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players also got something like this

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the 127.0.0.1 is continuing to get read timed out though :I

crimson fable Nov 11, 2021, 7:12 AM

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version mismatches, lag on server are the only two things i can think of that'd cause that

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 7:13 AM

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the proxy is a lower version than the backend servers but that shouldn't matter?

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 7:20 AM

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read timed out means that the proxy didn't get anything, I kinda recall the InitialHandler being the clients side

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 7:20 AM

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but when it happens to most of the players on the proxy? is it then client side still? D:

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 7:21 AM

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well, all it tells us is that it didn't recieve any packets in 30 seconds

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that could be that the server isn't putting the client into a condition where it will send packets

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 7:21 AM

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Do you have any troubleshooting steps you would go for?

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 7:23 AM

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plugins, diagnose network for packet loss, etc, inspect host machine for potential network issues (e.g. windows has a fun issue with the localhost bind setting thing sometimes)

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 7:24 AM

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i think a call to hetzner is one of the thing i should priortize, because usually between 11 pm and 2 am theres ping spikes up to around 200ms

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for all players

bitter jacinth Nov 11, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Hello ! I have a little using forge with Waterfall, when I connect to my server, the server disconnect me with this error :

zinc lily Nov 11, 2021, 9:59 AM

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does the server run forge >1.12.2 ?

bitter jacinth Nov 11, 2021, 9:59 AM

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not under nor up , it is 1.12.2

zinc lily Nov 11, 2021, 9:59 AM

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do you have the mods installed?

bitter jacinth Nov 11, 2021, 9:59 AM

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What a stupid question, yes I do.

zinc lily Nov 11, 2021, 10:00 AM

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any logs?

bitter jacinth Nov 11, 2021, 10:00 AM

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log from ?

zinc lily Nov 11, 2021, 10:00 AM

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waterfall, server

bitter jacinth Nov 11, 2021, 10:01 AM

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09:54:11 [INFO] Using zlib based native compressor.
09:54:11 [INFO] Enabled BungeeCord version git:BungeeCord-Bootstrap:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607
09:54:11 [INFO] Not on Windows, attempting to use enhanced EpollEventLoop
09:54:11 [INFO] Epoll is working, utilising it!
09:54:11 [INFO] Discovered module: ModuleSpec(name=cmd_alert, file=modules/cmd_alert.jar, provider=JenkinsModuleSource())
09:54:11 [INFO] Discovered module: ModuleSpec(name=cmd_find, file=modules/cmd_find.jar, provider=JenkinsModuleSource())
09:54:11 [INFO] Discovered module: ModuleSpec(name=cmd_list, file=modules/cmd_list.jar, provider=JenkinsModuleSource())
09:54:11 [INFO] Discovered module: ModuleSpec(name=cmd_send, file=modules/cmd_send.jar, provider=JenkinsModuleSource())
09:54:11 [INFO] Discovered module: ModuleSpec(name=cmd_server, file=modules/cmd_server.jar, provider=JenkinsModuleSource())
09:54:11 [INFO] Discovered module: ModuleSpec(name=reconnect_yaml, file=modules/reconnect_yaml.jar, provider=JenkinsModuleSource())
09:54:11 [INFO] Loaded plugin reconnect_yaml version git:reconnect_yaml:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Loaded plugin cmd_find version git:cmd_find:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Loaded plugin cmd_server version git:cmd_server:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Loaded plugin cmd_alert version git:cmd_alert:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Loaded plugin cmd_send version git:cmd_send:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Loaded plugin cmd_list version git:cmd_list:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [WARNING] Forced host server pvp is not defined
09:54:11 [WARNING] MinecraftForge support is currently unmaintained and may have unresolved issues. Please use at your own risk.
09:54:11 [INFO] Enabled plugin reconnect_yaml version git:reconnect_yaml:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Enabled plugin cmd_find version git:cmd_find:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Enabled plugin cmd_server version git:cmd_server:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Enabled plugin cmd_alert version git:cmd_alert:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Enabled plugin cmd_send version git:cmd_send:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Enabled plugin cmd_list version git:cmd_list:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:6613aae:1607 by SpigotMC
09:54:11 [INFO] Listening on /0.0.0.0:25575
container@pterodactyl~ Server marked as running...
09:54:16 [INFO] [/XX.XXX.X.XX:56164] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
09:54:20 [INFO] [/XX.XXX.X.XX:59179] <-> InitialHandler has connected
09:54:20 [INFO] [Eradium] <-> ServerConnector [lobby] has connected
09:54:20 [INFO] [Eradium] disconnected with: Kicked whilst connecting to lobby: This server has mods that require FML/Forge to be installed on the client. Contact your server admin for more details.
09:54:20 [INFO] [Eradium] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected
09:54:20 [INFO] [Eradium] <-> ServerConnector [lobby] has disconnected```

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Disconnecting Player: This server has mods that require FML/Forge to be installed on the client: [ArchitectureCraft, AutoRegLib, Better Animals Plus, Chameleon, Chisel, CoFH Core, CodeChicken Lib, CustomNPCs, EraMod, Extra Utilities 2, Extreme Reactors, Ido - 1.12 movement enhancement, Iron Chest, Magical Crops: Core, Placeable Items Mod, Redstone Flux, Secret Rooms 5, Storage Drawers, Sword Blocking Combat, Thermal Dynamics, Thermal Expansion, Thermal Foundation, U Team Core, Useful Backpacks, Varied Commodities, Zero CORE]

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Every mod listed in the second message are all installed on server & client

zinc lily Nov 11, 2021, 10:02 AM

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interesting

bitter jacinth Nov 11, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Likely have found the error but It's a problem in some way

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Okay, found out, but's It's really going to be a problem

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The Ip forward stuff seems to break forge support

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Does connections between proxy and backend show up as "localhost"? or is this something else?

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 3:42 PM

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if connections show up as 127, then you're ever connecting from localhost or you've not setup IP forwarding

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:38 PM

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reef fulcrum if connections show up as 127, then you're ever connecting from localhost or you...

Thats not what i asked though, this is not users - as they would be showing as coming from TCPShield IPs

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i'm asking if the connections landing at the proxy, where it gets forwarded to backend (With correct setup and ip-forward)
Shows up as 127.0.0.1 or if its something else?

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:40 PM

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pretty sure it will show up as whatever your proxy is bound to

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:40 PM

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I mean, if it's a connection over localhost then it's gonna show up on localhost?

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We can't comment on your specific network setup

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:43 PM

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marble kelp pretty sure it will show up as whatever your proxy is bound to

So in theory they could be the player connections aswell? and not something else?

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i'm just trying to understand why the proxy would ping itself or whatever is pinging from 127.0.0.1

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:44 PM

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what is even your exact issue?

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:44 PM

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multiple things xD

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random timeouts on players, random ping spikes

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hetzner is ofcource denying all this so i'm just lost on what to do xD

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:45 PM

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that sounds more like a network issues between the players and your machine, not the software

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and I strongly doubt hetzner is having network issues, pretty sure they even provide you with health reports of their network somewhere, just look at that

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:45 PM

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I mean, that's what tools like mtr are for

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Well if its not something on the proxy nor the hetzner network - there shouldn't be any issues

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theres nothing really in between other than tcpshield which are showing the "loss" is between hetzner and them

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:46 PM

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providers often suck at monitoring some aspects of their network, once again, mtr

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:46 PM

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MTR blames hetzner

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or atleast one of their nodes

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:46 PM

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have you showed it to them?

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:47 PM

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yes many times

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:47 PM

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so send that to them and move to a different node for the time being

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:47 PM

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i can't move?

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its a hetzner network node.

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:47 PM

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tell them to

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or move datacenters

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or try to somehow route around it

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:47 PM

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sounds expensive D:

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:47 PM

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I mean, if you can prove that the issue is on their network and they're/you're not gonna do anything about it, not much we can do, glhf

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:48 PM

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yeah, just chargeback and use a different host lol

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:48 PM

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i've had contact to hetzner multiple times, it always starts out as "We don't see any issue on our network - must be your ISP"

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at one point i had a email trail on like 100 mails with them

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where they null-routed me

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:48 PM

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did you call them?

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(ideally in native German :P)

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Yes, and he said "uhm we will forward this to the network team"

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which works 9-18

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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of course

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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this was at 21

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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I mean, you get what you pay for

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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so that was waste of time

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touché

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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I mean, you have been speaking to the networking team all along when asking about networking issues?

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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you can't expect them to pay overtime with such low rates 👀

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:50 PM

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reef fulcrum I mean, you have been speaking to the networking team all along when asking abou...

Depends on the day i guess, i've had multiple on the topic

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:50 PM

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depends on the day

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:50 PM

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they don't even read the email trail, so i have to say the same things over and over xD

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:51 PM

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I mean, I ain't used their support system, but, most ticket systems let you chose what department to speak to when creating a ticket

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:51 PM

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reef fulcrum I mean, I ain't used their support system, but, most ticket systems let you chos...

It does, but if their answer is "Its not our fault" what good is it xD?

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:51 PM

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if you're speaking to the wrong department, it wouldn't be a surprise that they're half clueless and you're running in circles, especially given that things like gen support often acts as gate keepers

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And onc eagain, was that the networking department?

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Yes it was

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can't be a bottleneck if its all users that are affected xd

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I mean, I can't really say anything based on that given I can't see the report

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I mean, all it takes is for some 3rd party peer to have issues and shit goes sideways

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

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just send them info which clearly shows that it's not in your ISP

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

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I know, but this is a issue where everyone gets mostly the exact same latency

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(200ms)

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

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and ideally tests from multiple different locations and servers e.g. ovh

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

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At the end of the day, if the issue is on their side, you're basically gonna have to prove it, and sometimes that cna be a royal headache

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all it takes is for a common route to be congested or some shit

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

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usually its their core24.fsn1 that is having issues

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I mean, we're here on the assumption that you've read the mtr report properly

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given that we can't see the report, we can't really comment on it, if it's an issue with their network, er, your options are either convince them that it is or go somewhere better, welcome to the joys of budget bin hosts

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:56 PM

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i don't have a report on hand currently, but i'll make sure to save one when it happens again

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:56 PM

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reef fulcrum given that we can't see the report, we can't really comment on it, if it's an is...

125 euro/month is not budget if you ask me xD

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could pay for the server in like a couple of months

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:57 PM

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relative to the realm you're in? Yes, that's budget bin hosting

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hetzner is a company who do it for cheap

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:57 PM

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fair point

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:58 PM

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and are on the same price point as OVH more or less, OVH is literally the defininition of a budget host in this industry

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:58 PM

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reef fulcrum and are on the same price point as OVH more or less, OVH is literally the defini...

Really? also for consumer grade hardware?

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sorry forgot to remove the ping >.<

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 4:59 PM

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what?

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 4:59 PM

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A Ryzen 9 5950x is "Consumer/Prosumer" grade hardware

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not server grade

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 5:00 PM

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I mean, the rise of consumer hardware really says it all, these are not hosting providers doing the typicals of hosting, they're priced at a point for me and you, not "for the enterprise"

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That means that you lose on on the 24/7 support you'd expect for an enterprise business, the # and quality of tech hands, etc, etc

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am sure that they're a competent company but if you want "hands down your pants" support when shit goes sideways, your budget is too cheap

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 5:01 PM

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reef fulcrum am sure that they're a competent company but if you want "hands down your pants"...

I just want the network to be stable, i don't care about hands down your pants support

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the theory i'm going for currently is that their Stateless firewall is doing some wierd stuff and that might be the issue

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i'm just shooting in every direction till something "sticks" i guess

reef fulcrum Nov 11, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Hands down your pants support implies that they'd be going super crazy to diagnose where the issue is and work with their peers if it's a peering issue

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 5:04 PM

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saying its my fault on first message is not doing anything - they could have a bot do that

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Could SQLite databases be the ones pinging the server?

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 5:08 PM

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SQLite doesn't do anything on its own

upbeat wave Nov 11, 2021, 5:12 PM

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i'm so confused what the pings are then :-:

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half of which are timing out

marble kelpBOT Nov 11, 2021, 9:02 PM

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some plugins do stupid shit like ping the server to obtain the motd or something

hazy sun Nov 12, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Hi anyone know some method to auto-restart waterfall instance every day or one time a week? Thanks

prisma whale Nov 12, 2021, 3:33 PM

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hazy sun Hi anyone know some method to auto-restart waterfall instance every day or one t...

create a systemd service for it, you can specify how long you want the service to run for before restarting

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if windows, task scheduler + nssm or firedaemon

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Hi

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My waterfall server kicks randomly players with message read timed out or Connection reset by peer

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Log

[22:13:40 WARN]: [/XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:38084|PFilip] -> UpstreamBridge - read timed out
[22:13:40 INFO]: [PFilip] disconnected with: ReadTimeoutException : null
[22:13:40 INFO]: [/XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:38084|PFilip] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected

pearl blaze Nov 12, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Hmm

reef fulcrum Nov 12, 2021, 9:46 PM

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read timed out just tells us that the proxy didn't get any traffic in 30 seconds

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Ok

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but it happens randomly

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like when player is on the server for 10-30 min

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and it doesn't happen on normal bungee

pearl blaze Nov 12, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Hmm

royal hawk Nov 12, 2021, 9:51 PM

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acoustic oriole and it doesn't happen on normal bungee

If you can find a way to reliably reproduce it in a controlled environment feel free to open a bug on GitHub. If we can’t replicate it we can’t fix it sadly

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:51 PM

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:<

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Ok

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I just installed waterfall without plugins and the i got same error

royal hawk Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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This is on connection client <> proxy

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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so i think i will open bug on gh

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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royal hawk This is on connection client <> proxy

Yes

reef fulcrum Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Please don't

pearl blaze Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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🧐

reef fulcrum Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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There is nothing there that we can work off

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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So this is problem on my VPS/internet provider?

reef fulcrum Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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There is some weird issue with bungee in general that for some reason some people basically eat dirt with the proxy

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One might suggest looking at velocity

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Ok, I will check that

royal hawk Nov 12, 2021, 9:53 PM

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If you’re running this proxy in Linux chances are the modifications to the natives in waterfall are causing it, but that’s insanely hard to prove

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Yes, i run it on Linux.

royal hawk Nov 12, 2021, 9:53 PM

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And that’s sadly hardly fixable. Most cheap VPS Hosters use hypervisors that cause these issues

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:54 PM

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The VPS provider is OVH

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VPS wasn't cheap

royal hawk Nov 12, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Then I don’t see that being an issue

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:54 PM

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I will check velocity

royal hawk Nov 12, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Maybe something with the DoS protection OVH uses

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Maybe

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This problem started when i changed VPS location from FR to PL

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I'm from Poland and ping in FR was very high

reef fulcrum Nov 12, 2021, 9:57 PM

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"very high"

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Like 62ms

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in PL i have around 16ms

reef fulcrum Nov 12, 2021, 9:58 PM

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I mean, that sounds around where I'd expect it going so far

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 9:58 PM

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Oh, ok.

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 10:20 PM

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So i checked velocity

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and no error

royal hawk Nov 12, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Then stay with velocity

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notlike

acoustic oriole Nov 12, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Also I checked waterfall logs and this read timed out error appeared couple weeks after VPS change.

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So I think this isn't caused by VPS/firewall config

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maybe ISP or Waterfall api or something

pearl blaze Nov 12, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Hello, I have a waterfall for some time everything was ok but recently for about 3 days it still crashes every 20m players that Read time out I bought eyfencord and there is also, as far as I know, it's based on waterfall so the fault is probably on your side, I would ask for repair, if there is one possibility

tough vale Nov 12, 2021, 10:28 PM

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Send logs

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.paste

marble kelpBOT Nov 12, 2021, 10:28 PM

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Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

New · paste.gg

A sensible, modern pastebin. Share text and source code snippets with no hassle.

hot wave Nov 13, 2021, 1:19 AM

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When I put / in my chat I get the commands of the Waterfall plugins even if I have in my mode that does not tab any command, is there a way to avoid that?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:14 AM

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why would i get expetion null when joining a modded server?

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:15 AM

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it is a ReadTimeoutException, not just null

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:15 AM

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why would i get that

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tho

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it only happens when i try to join my modded server

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:16 AM

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You get connected and directly disconnected on the Revelation Server

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do you have the modded server in offline mode?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:17 AM

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yes

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it has ip forwarding

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and it is bungeemode true

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should it be online mode?

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:18 AM

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it should be offline mode if its behind a bungeecord proxy

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however how did you enabel ip forwarding/bungeecord=true on the modded server?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:18 AM

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i use sponge forge

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on modded server side

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they have a config file i have to enable

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those two settings

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:19 AM

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did you restart the modded server after changing that config file?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:19 AM

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ya

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day before yesterday my players had issues joining modded server

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so i struggled to get to join the server as well

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:21 AM

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is there an error message in the log of the forge server?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:21 AM

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when i removed it from proxy it allowed me to join the server

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but when i added it to the proxy again i got this expetion

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does not say i join that server even

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:23 AM

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did you make sure to input the right ip address and port in the proxy config?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:23 AM

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yep

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it is on same machine

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as proxy/bungee

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:25 AM

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so in the proxy config it says something like 127.0.0.1:port-of-modded-server?

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do you have the server ip set in the server.properties file of the modded server?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:26 AM

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ya i had it that and i changed it to the ip of the machine

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i thought it might be the ip but it was not it

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but i will change it back

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:27 AM

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change both places to 127.0.0.1 as ip

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:27 AM

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in the modded server i have it as 0.0.0.0

lost river Nov 13, 2021, 10:27 AM

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that should also work

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:28 AM

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ok doing a restart

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Here is when i had the issues before this

https://gist.github.com/ZeroG-Network/bc7c6279da66c6ecf7a90d3889f800b6
https://gist.github.com/ZeroG-Network/932be9c21f4221c5ad9e00ea967b15c0

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that was on modded side

royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 10:46 AM

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dawn umbra ok doing a restart

are you running the latest waterfall build? The plugin-channel mechanics changed with it, if youre on the latest build try the one before that and vice versa

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this is from what I can see an issue related to plugin-messaging

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 10:47 AM

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IDK i will download and upload it

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cause atm i have my modded server disconnected on the proxy

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so i can figure out if i can fix it

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so my players can play

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will do some testing later

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i am having some headache cause of this problem

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 12:07 PM

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now i got this

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😭

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 12:08 PM

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royal hawk are you running the latest waterfall build? The plugin-channel mechanics changed...

https://mcpaste.io/696ab3f16751702b this time i am using latest

MCPaste.io

A easy to use Paste site for Minecraft Server logs.

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and got this error trying to join modded server

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that is just to my hub

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that it gave me that

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also proxy just changed all this to that ip

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 12:33 PM

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it is a if the modded server is not picked up on the proxy side

pearl blaze Nov 13, 2021, 2:23 PM

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dawn umbra why would i get expetion null when joining a modded server?

Hello, I have the same problem as you know, maybe how to fix it already?

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 2:24 PM

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no i haven't figure it out

pearl blaze Nov 13, 2021, 2:24 PM

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It has been happening with me for several days and with you

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 2:25 PM

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what i did was i made my modded server temporary independed meaning it is standing on it own and i gave it the port on my dns

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i only got it today

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ish

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usually i got it 3/4 times on my side but for my players none

pearl blaze Nov 13, 2021, 2:30 PM

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For me it looks like that every now and then it crashes all players with this reason, it happens every 30m

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I lost a lot of players because of this bug, so I'm trying to fix it but nothing works, I really tried everything

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 2:59 PM

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i think it is a bug with the waterfall

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i think we should open an issue on github

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if it is not already created

acoustic oriole Nov 13, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Hi, I reinstalled everything on my VPS and I sill get error.
Waterfall:

[15:42:55 WARN]: [/XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:45798|PFilip] -> UpstreamBridge - NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: Connection reset by peer
[15:42:55 INFO]: [PFilip] disconnected with: NativeIoException : readAddress(..) failed: Connection reset by peer
[15:42:55 INFO]: [/XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:45798|PFilip] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [surv1] has disconnected
[15:42:55 INFO]: [/XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:45798|PFilip] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected

pearl blaze Nov 13, 2021, 3:13 PM

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dawn umbra i think it is a bug with the waterfall

I also think so, I did everything I can and nothing helped, there is no point in looking further, I think it is a fault on the engine side

marble kelpBOT Nov 13, 2021, 3:16 PM

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@dawn umbra only forge up to 1.12 can be properly supported

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 3:17 PM

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that is what i am using

pearl blaze Nov 13, 2021, 3:18 PM

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I think it's not because he is not the first person, and probably even 5th person, so the problem seems to me that he is on the waterfall side

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 3:18 PM

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FTB revelation is the modpack i have

marble kelpBOT Nov 13, 2021, 3:18 PM

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also try disabling entity metadata rewriting, some mod stuff conflicts with that

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(or directly use Velocity I guess)

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 3:18 PM

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i think i have that disabled allready

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or enabled

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IDK anymore

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it is in true

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meaning it is disabled

pearl blaze Nov 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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I don't know

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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and if i do have the server linked to my waterfall and i try to join from hub it does not kinda pickup that that server is there but does pick it up

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it does not send me to that server at all

marble kelpBOT Nov 13, 2021, 3:33 PM

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try using forced hosts or a plugin to connect to the modded server directly on join. some mods really don't like server switches

pearl blaze Nov 13, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Hmm, I don't want to mislead anyone but I don't think this is the reason why a few people have the same thing I did with kicking players, including me

dawn umbra Nov 13, 2021, 3:55 PM

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dawn umbra why would i get expetion null when joining a modded server?

that is what i do when i get this message

hot wave Nov 13, 2021, 6:16 PM

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hot wave When I put / in my chat I get the commands of the Waterfall plugins even if I ha...

please

royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 6:33 PM

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hot wave When I put / in my chat I get the commands of the Waterfall plugins even if I ha...

Not really unless you have a plugin for that

hot wave Nov 13, 2021, 6:41 PM

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ah :l

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 10:59 PM

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#

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I restarted my dedicated server and now I can't connect to any of the servers

reef fulcrum Nov 13, 2021, 11:15 PM

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I mean, the proxy thinks that you're apparently already connected to the server you're tryna be sent to

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if that's "it failed to connect and is sending me back to where I was and shouting about it", check your logs, etc

royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 11:16 PM

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reef fulcrum I mean, the proxy thinks that you're apparently already connected to the server ...

Bungee has a nasty design-issue that if the execution of a certain switching task fails it will persist the flag that the server is already connected

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:17 PM

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reef fulcrum if that's "it failed to connect and is sending me back to where I was and shouti...

no, nothing in logs

reef fulcrum Nov 13, 2021, 11:17 PM

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don't mention

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no logs = no help

royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 11:17 PM

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I want to say congratulations you found a bungee design flaw. I’m nearly positive it is the thing I’m talking about

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This happens reliably when a connection is lost and the user switches but a plugin keeps making connection attempts one after another. If you time it right it will break the flow there and the server info will become stuck

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:19 PM

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And how can I fix it?

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I even rebooted the dedicated server

royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Given this is the thing I am talking about it should be fixed by reconnecting to the bungee

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:21 PM

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even if I send myself to a server that it's offline I still get this

reef fulcrum Nov 13, 2021, 11:22 PM

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did you just log out and log back in?

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can you reproduce without plugins on the proxy?

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:24 PM

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I have a plugin "Hopecommander"

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I think this is the problem

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nope

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:25 PM

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reef fulcrum can you reproduce without plugins on the proxy?

I'll try this now

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royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Is that a “cracked” auth plugin? We don’t setups with those or piracy

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:37 PM

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no

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it's a login plugin

royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 11:37 PM

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And the purpose of that is?

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:37 PM

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for login

royal hawk Nov 13, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Login is handled by mojangs session servers if you use legitimate versions of the game. Anything else is most likely piracy

maiden sparrow Nov 13, 2021, 11:41 PM

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do you know a way to fix this?

quartz mauve Nov 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Don't use weird auth plugins but the legitimate mojangs auth servers

dire plank Nov 14, 2021, 9:00 AM

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Is there anyway we can have a proxy -> proxy?
Not sure if I should post this on #velocity-help or #waterfall-help. Right now im using velocity, but I could change to whatever supports this:

How we want it:

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Why: We have two servers merging together. Want specific proxy plugins to specific server.

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Yellow: Main proxy
Red: Agonia SMPs proxy
Dark red: xFuns proxy

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Please tag me @dire plank if you have an answer <3

eternal cairn Nov 14, 2021, 9:06 AM

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Neither Velocity nor Waterfall supports this.

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Take a look at HAproxy if you don’t want plugins on the yellow one, though

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it would potentially require a 3rd instance of Velocity if you need it to connect to the servers without going thru the red and brown ones

dire plank Nov 14, 2021, 3:01 PM

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No plugins needed in the yellow one

modest elm Nov 14, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Hi

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i'm getting this warning when i start my server

[15:20:58 WARN]: Could not bind to host /0.0.0.0:25632
io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: bind(..) failed: Address already in use

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and then i get this when i try to join

reef fulcrum Nov 14, 2021, 3:32 PM

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that port is already in use by something apparently

modest elm Nov 14, 2021, 3:33 PM

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this is the entire log

📎 message.txt

tulip surgeBOT Nov 14, 2021, 3:33 PM

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modest elm this is the entire log

message.txt by @modest elm: https://paste.gg/06016ab63ade476bace62887da556d8c

lost river Nov 14, 2021, 5:00 PM

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modest elm this is the entire log

[15:20:58 WARN]: Could not bind to host /0.0.0.0:25632
io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: bind(..) failed: Address already in use

There is already some program using that port.
If you have console access you can use netstat -t -l -p -n or something similar to check which program listens on that port.

royal hawk Nov 14, 2021, 5:24 PM

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lost river ``` [15:20:58 WARN]: Could not bind to host /0.0.0.0:25632 io.netty.channel.unix...

I’d rather say that isn’t allocated to the container this is running in

viscid idol Nov 14, 2021, 8:56 PM

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Why are priorities & force_default_server broken? I have my priorities list as such: spawn, vanilla and force_default_server: false I want a player on first join to connect to 'spawn' and then have them log back in on whatever server they logged out on, but bungeecord is sending players back to 'spawn' always

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I haven't used BungeeCord/Waterfall in quite a bit, has something changed that I'm unaware of...?

reef fulcrum Nov 14, 2021, 9:06 PM

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you didn't setup a forced host did you?

viscid idol Nov 14, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Nope

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forced_hosts is an empty map

reef fulcrum Nov 14, 2021, 9:06 PM

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otherwise, disabling it should move you back to the server you where on when you left

viscid idol Nov 14, 2021, 9:06 PM

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  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  - spawn
  - vanilla
  bind_local_address: true
  host: 0.0.0.0:25565
  max_players: 50
  tab_size: 60
  force_default_server: false```

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It's just not remembering my logout server. I end up on 'spawn' every time... I tried disabling plugins on the proxy but that didn't change anything

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It's physically saving it in the locations.yml, though. I have no clue as to why its not working

reef fulcrum Nov 14, 2021, 9:07 PM

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check the logs

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make sure that the reconnect module I think it was loaded

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best I got is check plugins

viscid idol Nov 14, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Yeah its loading and enabling it. I tried a run without proxy plugins and it's still an issue

viscid idol Nov 14, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Could it be because of routing through TCPShield?

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I was infact TCPShield.

tidal musk Nov 14, 2021, 10:40 PM

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what is this (red is ip address of a player)

zinc lily Nov 14, 2021, 11:18 PM

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means a connection took too long to establish/respond

small fractal Nov 15, 2021, 9:54 AM

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why do people freak about their ip

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i know it leaks a 100 km radius but why you freaking out

green sequoia Nov 15, 2021, 10:05 AM

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I mean it isn’t even theirs, it’s just their friends

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Your own would be counted as lan ip

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 10:12 AM

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ya now you have a network and you had some issue and you have about 50 different players from around the world connected and their ip show in console it is up to u to protect them rather than to have them be unsafe cause they can easily turn around and sue you for damages and it all also depend on where the server is hosted too

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some companies has a strict policy towards safety

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 1:59 PM

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I mean, cutting out the IPs just makes it harder on us because now all we know is "read timed out"

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I mean, I've already explained what read timed out means 20 times in the past month, but, like, for all we know those IPs trace back to some random host or some shit running on their own machine

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:05 PM

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lol

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can i get some progress report on this issue i launched 3days ago?
https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/issues/701

GitHub

Too many plugin message channels registered · Issue #701 · PaperMC/...

Hello When I try to join my modded server I keep getting the ReadTimeoutException : null I am one version lower than the latest also when I go into the latest it does not allow me to join with a mo...

marble kelpBOT Nov 15, 2021, 2:06 PM

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wasn't there a config option to set the max amount or do I misremember that?

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:07 PM

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No

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I mean

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There was literally already an open issue report for that.

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:08 PM

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welp this is casuing me to have my modded server dismantled from proxy server. kinda annoying

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:09 PM

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oh, wait, maybe not exactly a duplicate, just, some common major issue there was already fixed

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:15 PM

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reef fulcrum oh, wait, maybe not exactly a duplicate, just, some common major issue there was...

ok so it seems to be fixed

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give me the fixed version then pls

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:16 PM

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don't mention

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:16 PM

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cause atm latest version is F'ed

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Please actually read what I said

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:16 PM

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you said it was not exactally the same but there was a fix

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so i am asking for the fix

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cause i do not see the fix

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:17 PM

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oh, wait

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some common major issue there that was fixed

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maybe not exactly a duplicate

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:17 PM

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well then why did you close my issue

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if it is not fixed yet

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Because I thought it was a dupe of the existing issue given that 99.999% of them are

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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well i would recommend opening the issue again so that issue can be resolved please

marble kelpBOT Nov 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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bungee and I think the Minecraft client itself can only register 128 channels

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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cause i am not going to open new one

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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I was literally just working on a thing for it now

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but, i changed my mind, i cba

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:19 PM

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cause velocity does not meet my touch atm there is not plugins i can use to make the exact same things i am using now

royal hawk Nov 15, 2021, 2:20 PM

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A patch to add the same -Dpaper.disableChannelLimit arg paper has would fix it

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Bearing in mind that I proposed the fix for the original issue like literally tiiime ago

marble kelpBOT Nov 15, 2021, 2:20 PM

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oh I think I thought of the paper option lol

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:20 PM

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just wanted a config option to set the max or -1 to disable

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let people shoot themselves in the foot if they want or work out a sane limit for themselves

royal hawk Nov 15, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Velocity default is 1024

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fine throw another config option in the waterfall.yml

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notlike

reef fulcrum Nov 15, 2021, 2:21 PM

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I mean, I'm iffy on sys-props

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Because, I love putting the "feel free to shoot yourself in the foot" options in system properties, but, then somebody shoots themselves in the foot anyways and cries, or somebody has a valid usecase for it and is using a shared host so it's all fun

dawn umbra Nov 15, 2021, 2:23 PM

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i learn by shooting my self in the foot

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so i break first then build afterwards

indigo dune Nov 16, 2021, 8:24 AM

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with newest waterfall i get 09:07:45 [ERROR]: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Object, Object[])" because "com.viaversion.viaversion.bungee.handlers.BungeeServerHandler.getRelayMessages" is null now, maybe its the same topic? dont know if i have to talk with via about this...

reef fulcrum Nov 16, 2021, 8:36 AM

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that sounds like via needs updating

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but, I mean, can't really say, there is not enough info there, but 🤷‍♂️

royal hawk Nov 16, 2021, 9:06 AM

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Hurrr durr @frank coral fix

frank coral Nov 16, 2021, 9:06 AM

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zzz https://ci.viaversion.com/job/ViaVersion-DEV/

indigo dune Nov 16, 2021, 9:07 AM

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nice thanks

royal hawk Nov 16, 2021, 9:07 AM

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KEK

royal hawk Nov 16, 2021, 9:10 AM

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frank coral zzz https://ci.viaversion.com/job/ViaVersion-DEV/

If I am not mistaken that version should throw an unsupported warning

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If it does ignore it

frank coral Nov 16, 2021, 9:10 AM

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you're mistaken then

royal hawk Nov 16, 2021, 9:11 AM

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frank coral you're mistaken then

But you’re checking for the minecraft 1_18 field that isn’t added if you don’t have the startup flag set

frank coral Nov 16, 2021, 9:11 AM

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wat

royal hawk Nov 16, 2021, 9:11 AM

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Ah I see how you did it

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That’s stupid but alright

indigo dune Nov 16, 2021, 9:12 AM

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🙂

keen vault Nov 16, 2021, 4:26 PM

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I'm currently trying to put a SevTech-Ages as well as a GT:NH-Server behind Waterfall.
When trying to connect (tested with the ST-A-Server) I keep getting the error in the attached image.
forge_support is set to true in the config.yml and I can connect to the servers without a problem when not using Waterfall.
Is there something else I need to configure to make this setup work?

keen vault Nov 16, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Waterfall console has the following error:
https://pastebin.com/MAySxbFn

Pastebin

´[17:50:36 ERROR]: [/IP_REMOVED:42162|MC_NAME_REMOVED] -> UpstreamB...

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quartz mauve Nov 16, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Only forge up to 1.12 is supported

keen vault Nov 16, 2021, 5:02 PM

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So there is no way to make it work?

royal hawk Nov 16, 2021, 5:06 PM

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keen vault So there is no way to make it work?

I’ll fix it later

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That is a design “flaw” in bungeecord

royal hawk Nov 16, 2021, 8:36 PM

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keen vault I'm currently trying to put a SevTech-Ages as well as a GT:NH-Server behind Wate...

and @dawn umbra please download and try the test build here https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/pull/702
It will generate a config option for the limit in the waterfall.yml named registered_plugin_channels_limit set that to something higher than 128, try with 1024 or set it to -1 to disable the limit. Fair warning, I expect this to work but I didnt test it

keen vault Nov 16, 2021, 8:38 PM

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I'll try it and give you feedback as soon as I'm done

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The option appeared and I now have set it to 1024 - currently starting ST-A (could take a few minutes as I'm on my laptop)

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Works like a charm!
Vielen lieben Dank 😄

hot wave Nov 16, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Where do I download the bungeecord messages? I think they have implemented a new one that I don't have translated.

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I don't remember where I downloaded them

severe badger Nov 16, 2021, 9:08 PM

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checkthepins

hot wave Nov 16, 2021, 9:08 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/0945f35cccf317dfc627def915ba4003.png

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This message does not come.

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"The server is currently under repair, try later..."

reef fulcrum Nov 16, 2021, 9:10 PM

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that's not a waterfall message

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That's the message which is being sent from the server

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i.e. a kick message from the server is in english, but, the string which that message is shown in on the proxy itself, you're translated already

hot wave Nov 16, 2021, 9:12 PM

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oh ok, sorry

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thx

keen vault Nov 16, 2021, 9:30 PM

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royal hawk and <@!193416612122984449> please download and try the test build here https://g...

Sooo… GT:NH doesn't work… guess I'll need to use an older version of waterfall and re-apply your patch myself?

reef fulcrum Nov 16, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Waterfall hasn't supported 1.7.10 in years

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so, generally, glhf there

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may wanna look at velocity or maybe fork travertine and maintain it yourself 🤷‍♂️

keen vault Nov 16, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Yeah… I'll look into it

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 4:06 AM

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royal hawk and <@!193416612122984449> please download and try the test build here https://g...

I will test it tonight when I get back from work

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Thx

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Hello
the message channel thing that was added, after changing the values it still gives me same messages over again. just to let ya know about this

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when i had it changed i got the readtimeoutexpetion: null again to the server but other player got the >.... [19:52:12 INFO]: [MrWhiteFlamesYT] disconnected with: IllegalArgumentException : Channel name too long. This limit can be configured in the waterfall.yml @ com.google.common.base.Preconditions:122 like this

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https://mcpaste.io/112e4c784b4a8986

MCPaste.io

A easy to use Paste site for Minecraft Server logs.

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here is latest log of the proxy

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:03 PM

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dawn umbra when i had it changed i got the readtimeoutexpetion: null again to the server bu...

Go into the waterfall.yml and set the plugin channel limit to something like 1024 or -1 to disable it

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:03 PM

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i did

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both of them

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first tried the 1024

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and then the -1

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:04 PM

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And you restarted the proxy between doing that?

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:04 PM

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yes

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:09 PM

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dawn umbra yes

God damnit I was half asleep, I tried to account for using -1 but I was probably too quick. Try 2048 in both

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:10 PM

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oof

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:10 PM

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No; on second thought I apparently didn’t account for -1

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I just wanted it to be readable in this case

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I’ll fix it with the next upstream update

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:10 PM

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if you can change that during now and tomorrow same time or till friday when i do have time

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i will change this shit

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cause atm i do not have enough time to test

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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I mean it still works

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You just have to use a valid number not -1

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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ok

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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like ten thousand or even more if you want

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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when will upstream update be released tho

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if there is an eta

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Why would you want to disable this in the first place entirely

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:12 PM

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so that account for each player or for 10-20 players at once

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:12 PM

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this limit is per connection
Not per proxy

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:13 PM

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cause that only happens when i join with modded client

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Yes and the modded clients registers X number of mods

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:13 PM

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ya

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:13 PM

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It’s a finite number of mods not infinite

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And I’ve never seen a modpack with over 400 channels

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:13 PM

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like the ftb modpack ftb revelation has about 200 mods

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but some mods register 5-6 channels

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probs more

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Then set it to 4096 max channels per player

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:14 PM

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cool

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will try tomorrow then

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:14 PM

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The limit you can set it to is the positive integer limit in Java

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But you won’t ever reach that

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I assume you’re out of memory at around 300k channels

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:15 PM

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i will try it tomorrow

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if you can help me with plugins similar to what i use in this waterfall to be able to use it on velocity then i will move over to velocity

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rather than using waterfall again

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Velocity has a hard limit of 1024 channels and I’ve never seen a modpack break that record

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:17 PM

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well it just broke it when i tried it

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this is all the plugins i use atm

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IK half of them does work with velocity

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:18 PM

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I should add that you don’t need to change the name limit

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Legacy fabric is the only offender I’ve ever seen to exceed the name limit

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:19 PM

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oof

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welp i will test tomorrow if i have the time

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but if i can't do it tomorrow afternoon i will do it friday when i am off cause IK i am gonna be tired when i get home afterwork again

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i will ping you with an update if you would accept me to ping you.

royal hawk Nov 17, 2021, 7:21 PM

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I’ll read this channel anyway but idc

dawn umbra Nov 17, 2021, 7:22 PM

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👍

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:02 AM

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am trying to setup waterfall with two servers but i cant even see the motd and stuff and cant connect

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i have two backends running and a waterfall server backend1 is on port 25565 backend2 on 25566 and the waterfall on 25567 all the ports are forwarded

odd hatch Nov 18, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Whats the error

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:11 AM

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tidal musk i have two backends running and a waterfall server backend1 is on port 25565 bac...

We need more info. What kind of system are you running on and how is that connected to the internet?

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:11 AM

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odd hatch Whats the error

also this

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:11 AM

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royal hawk We need more info. What kind of system are you running on and how is that connec...

debian, ethernet cord

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Are you using docker?

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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odd hatch Whats the error

no actual error i just cant connect and see motd and stuff

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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royal hawk Are you using docker?

no

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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any hosting panel type of software?

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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no

odd hatch Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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oh ok

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I've got a pretty good guess

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Or just bare using systemd or another demonizing service

odd hatch Nov 18, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Is your waterfall server listening on the right interface

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:13 AM

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odd hatch Is your waterfall server listening on the right interface

wyn

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:13 AM

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0.0.0.0 ideally

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:13 AM

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royal hawk Or just bare using systemd or another demonizing service

soystemd ye

odd hatch Nov 18, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Can you "connect" to your network from the server hosting it?

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:13 AM

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ye

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Your iptables are in order?

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:14 AM

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nothing like ufw or iptables on the server

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:14 AM

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port/tcp established, new needs to be allowed

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The waterfall log please then

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.paste

marble kelpBOT Nov 18, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

New · paste.gg

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tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:15 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/1ada531bb110404cacedde9f1998471c

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Really don’t know in this case

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In any case what does iptables -S give you

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even if you say you don’t use it some system services use it for forwarding anyway

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 12:18 AM

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oh

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i mistyped

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i put 25577

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instead of 25567

royal hawk Nov 18, 2021, 12:19 AM

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sad_cat_thumbs_up

tidal musk Nov 18, 2021, 2:33 AM

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im having issues setting up a queue system

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they tell me the issue isnt with the queue

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so if the backend reaches the cap then someone gets placed in the queue and someone on the backend leaves the people in the queue cant connect they get "Connection failed. Please try again or contract an administrator."

novel dome Nov 18, 2021, 3:29 AM

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should I use waterfall or velocity

surreal stream Nov 18, 2021, 6:49 AM

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novel dome should I use waterfall or velocity

Recommended is Velocity. But Bungee plugins will not work on there.

eager zephyr Nov 18, 2021, 9:57 AM

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I'm getting this error when trying to connect to Lobby. We are using Ptero. (Everything is set correctly in bungeecord and spigot.yml)
Error: -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected

reef fulcrum Nov 18, 2021, 9:58 AM

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all that tells us is that the client disconnected

eager zephyr Nov 18, 2021, 9:59 AM

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Yeah I know. But it doesn't get thru bungeecord.

reef fulcrum Nov 18, 2021, 9:59 AM

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check client logs, etc; If that's all the info you can give us, all I can tell you is what it means

eager zephyr Nov 18, 2021, 10:02 AM

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I mean what else can I give lol other than that, that player doesn't get thru bungeecord otherwise it would be connecting to Lobby-1 and therefor it will say in Lobby console anything about this

tidal bolt Nov 18, 2021, 7:13 PM

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point me in the right direction if this is not the place... i am trying to set up a forge server in my waterfall. im getting stuck at actually connecting to the server long enough to be sent to the forge server..

wraith blaze Nov 19, 2021, 5:05 AM

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sometimes i´m getting this warning what it means?
[23:40:59 WARN]: io.netty.channel.StacklessClosedChannelException [23:40:59 WARN]: at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel.close(ChannelPromise)(Unknown Source)

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 6:22 AM

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The connection was closed unexpectedly

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Hey everyone, I've noticed lately that Waterfall is using insane amounts of RAM as does Paper. Now, this all started since we wiped our node (we co-locate our hardware at a hetzner datacenter) and reinstalled pterodactyl and all our servers. We did this to change the way Wings was ran (wings was ran in a screen before, which limits performance in our experience) and now it doesn't. However, since this, our RAM usage has increased by 60-70% across our entire network. We have 128GB of memory so it's not a huge deal but when the network is under load I'm worried Waterfall/Paper (but mostly worried about waterfall as if it goes down the whole network does too) will eat up all it's RAM and crash. Any ideas as to why it would be doing this?

twin solstice Nov 19, 2021, 11:10 AM

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(wings was ran in a screen before, which limits performance in our experience)

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lol

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what are your startup flags

young rampart Nov 19, 2021, 11:13 AM

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If you are using the recommended flags that is completely normal behaviour, the flags make sure that Java reserves the RAM you give it completely when starting the server, that is why you might see it has increased RAM usage, while it's really just reserved RAM

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:13 AM

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twin solstice what are your startup flags

For waterfall: java -Xms128M -Xmx2080M -jar waterfall-1.17-454.jar
For Paper: java -Xms128M -Xmx9G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar server.jar nogui

twin solstice Nov 19, 2021, 11:14 AM

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both of those are wrong

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xms & xmx should always be equal

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you should also run wings in a systemd service that pterodactyl provides in the documentation

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:19 AM

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twin solstice both of those are wrong

The ones for Waterfall were generated by pterodactyl and haven't been changed. The ones for paper were generated by https://blog.airplane.gg/aikar-flags/ then my systems admin changes the xms flag and I do not know why. I assume to make it match the default ptero flags? Also, that is how wings runs now (to my knowledge). In regards to Pterodactyl's documentation, I've never read it as I didn't install Pterodactyl. That's what I have a systems administrator for. Is there any reason to change the xms flag back? If Ptero by default doesn't have them symmetrical, it hardly seems necessary.

Airplane Blog

Optimizing Your Minecraft Server with Aikar Java Flags

One of the common questions when starting a server is "What flags should I be using to launch my…

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:20 AM

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.flags

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 11:20 AM

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Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:20 AM

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I'd suggest reading that, do note it takes a moment to load due to aikar being dum and using wordpress...

rugged basin Nov 19, 2021, 11:21 AM

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your sysadmin is dum

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:21 AM

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Memory usage is a complex topic and it's pretty hard to say why memory usage changed between X and Y setups, all it takes is for a speed difference in the CPU and the garbage collector can decide to act entirely differently

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:21 AM

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reef fulcrum Memory usage is a complex topic and it's pretty hard to say why memory usage cha...

I sincerely doubt the Ryzen 9 that runs our system is lacking in speed

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:21 AM

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Not saying it isn't...

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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marble kelp Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

This website is the slowest thing on planet earth...

twin solstice Nov 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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correct

young rampart Nov 19, 2021, 11:24 AM

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the wait is worth it

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:33 AM

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So this documentation makes no sense to me. It says don't use all your memory but what does that mean? All of the servers technically have access to 128GB of RAM. Does it mean don't allocate all 128 gigs or don't allocate all of the 16 I have dedicated to that specific server within the machine? Also, it doesn't inspire much faith in things that the last time this post was updated was nearly 3 and a half years ago... and it says if I use more than 12 gigs of memory I need to change some flags? But in the past when I have allocated more than 10 gigs of ram to a Paper/Waterfall server using Aikar flags (default Ptero ones don't) it just causes the server to crash after a few hours of people playing. And on top of that, this post doesn't touch on Waterfall or give any guidance for it. It doesn't even mention bungeecord. Does waterfall need to have it's flags changed? This article leaves me with more questions than answers.

young rampart Nov 19, 2021, 11:34 AM

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The recommended flags for waterfall are pinned in this channel

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Don't use all your memory means don't start Java with all of the memory the system it runs on has available, because it always needs a certain overhead

rugged basin Nov 19, 2021, 11:36 AM

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it doesn't matter that it hasn't been updated in 3 years, nothing has changed

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:36 AM

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I mean, the reason why I linked the flags was to point out why to do Xmx == Xms

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What's the point in saying that java can use X amount of ram if you don't want it using that much

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the recommended flag tweaks for 12G+, I don't recommend using, tbqh

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Also, ptero is misconfigured by default, basically, advise setting the limits on docker containers to 0 (or just not setting them) and set Xmx/s manually

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:38 AM

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So, if I'm understanding correctly, these flags mostly just enable parallel GC correct?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:38 AM

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G1GC, which is the default now, but, those flags specifically tune the collector more towards the behavior of minecraft

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Is it not possible to use Shenandoah or ZGC?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:39 AM

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We don't recommend them for MC

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Is there a reason for that?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:40 AM

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they're more designed for large heaps with reasonable throughput, not small heaps with relatively high throughput

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:41 AM

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Ah I see. I was just curious as ZGC reports to be much faster.

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Do you recommend a particular JDK distribution or a particular OpenJDK developer?

young rampart Nov 19, 2021, 11:42 AM

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Microsoft, Corretto, Temurin, doesn't really matter that much

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Really? I had always heard that JDKs can vary wildly from developer to developer.

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Perhaps I was misinformed.

young rampart Nov 19, 2021, 11:43 AM

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I've mainly used AdoptOpenJDK in the past, which is Temurin now, but because they still have no apt repo I recently switched to Corretto without any noticeable difference

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:43 AM

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It's all mostly just repackages of openjdk

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some of them have some tweaks for them, e.g. some of them ship builds for m1, etc; but, for the most part they're all the same

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Interesting. I actually noticed a performance dip when we used OpenJDK. We recently switched to Oracles JDK and the performance increase was very noticable.

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:44 AM

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back in like the 1.8 era it did matter where oracles JRE offered better performance but these days they're all practically the same

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:44 AM

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reef fulcrum back in like the 1.8 era it did matter where oracles JRE offered better performa...

See now that makes sense. Some of our servers are 1.8

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I was wondering why that was the case.

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Why some servers seemed to hate OpenJDK and others didn't seem to care.

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At any rate though, looking at our skyblock server, it's using 8 of it's 9 gigs (I recently lowered it from 16 due to the before mentioned crashing issue with ram numbers above 10 gigs) but it isn't lagging. I'm assuming it's not because this ram is occupied but because it's been reserved?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:47 AM

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You'd need to attach a profiler to the server to see what's going on

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the JVM has never been great at freeing ram, if your servers performing better now it might even be that it's just generating more junk in the heap faster cos it's performing better, etc; not to piss in the wind too much there

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:52 AM

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reef fulcrum the JVM has never been great at freeing ram, if your servers performing better n...

So would a profiler plugin like HeapDump be what I'm after or should I install JProfiler on the node and let it profile the whole node?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:54 AM

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Generally you don't care about heap dumps until you're actually looking at what is in the heap, generally you just wanna see if it's behaving "healthily"

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:57 AM

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reef fulcrum Generally you don't care about heap dumps until you're actually looking at what ...

So what would you recommend as the software I use to do it? I've never had to profile a minecraft server before lol

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I might have forgot to turn off the ping. If I did I'm sorry.

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 11:58 AM

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I mean, am a yourkit person, but, for what you're doing, visualvm would work (might need a plugin if you wanna see what old/new gen is doing instead of just used/free), or jprofiler would work too

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 11:59 AM

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Actually, because I can't find any other information on it, what does the whole old gen and new gen thing mean? ELI5

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 12:00 PM

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I mean, in this case you just wanna see what the memory is doing, not really look at the "profling" aspects, just, that's what the tools are often referred to as; big thing is seeing how the memory is "spiking", with g1 it should generally look a bit like a saw blade, ideally you want the pits to remain roughly around the same place

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G1 is generational, new is "newly allocated objects", stuff as it sits around progresses into "old gen" which is collected less often

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:00 PM

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reef fulcrum I mean, in this case you just wanna see what the memory is doing, not really loo...

For this purpose wouldn't MobaXTerms remote monitoring feature do the trick?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 12:01 PM

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No

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:01 PM

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How about Grafana?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 12:01 PM

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unless it has a java agent thing, the memory of the java process itself doesn't represent too much given the whole memory regions of java

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:02 PM

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So monitoring the whole machines ram usage won't help me... welp... looks like I'm learning how "yourkit" works lol

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:06 PM

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reef fulcrum unless it has a java agent thing, the memory of the java process itself doesn't ...

One final question, it says don't use all your memory but what does that mean? All of the servers technically have access to 128GB of RAM. Does it mean don't allocate all 128 gigs or don't allocate all of the 16 I have dedicated to that specific server within the machine?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 12:08 PM

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leave some for the OS, make sure to leave some for java itself too

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.heap

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 12:08 PM

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-Xmx controls the amount of heap memory assigned to the JVM, this does not include memory used for java itself and the native memory used by java itself, as well as other libraries such as netty (for networking) and SQLite.

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Ofc leave enough for Ubuntu to run but does that mean then just don't use all the total system memory?

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Xmx doesn't cover the full memory usage of the JVM

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especially in ptero it's important that you leave enough room for overheads

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:09 PM

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How much overhead though? 8 Gigs? 20? I can spare quite a bit lol

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 12:09 PM

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that's more pointed out for ptero users given that ptero sets the memory limit for the container to whatever the Xmx thing is for, it does give a bit of a buffer but not always enough

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Easier to just set the container limit to 0 and set Xmx/s manually

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:10 PM

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If I set the container limit to 0 it refuses to launch the server.jar for some reason.

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It just gives an out of memory error then crashes

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 12:10 PM

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there should be a way to tell ptero to not limit the containers memory

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I don't use it so not super familiar with it

fallow gate Nov 19, 2021, 12:11 PM

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It says to set the container memory limit to 0 for unlimited but it just doesn't work for some reason

mellow rock Nov 19, 2021, 12:23 PM

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try -1

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I am running Hexxit II with waterfall, and I was wondering how do I go about fixing the issue where it shows an X on the server list? I.e. before Waterfall it showed mod count.

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:53 PM

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we still getting this message

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:53 PM

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enabling ping-passthrough might fix it but it might break

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:54 PM

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and i have changed the value

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:54 PM

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*break with modded handshakes I guess

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:54 PM

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in the waterfall.yml

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:54 PM

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well increase it

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or remove whatever is spamming channels

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:54 PM

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i allready have it on 10240

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can't

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cause it is a modpack and i can't remove mods from server

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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of course you can? you just don't want to lmao

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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dude if i remove it fucks the pack up

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sorry for the language

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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so?

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Yeah you cant really remove mods from modpacks, as both sides need it.

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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and i do not know what mod it is tho

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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What modpack are you running, @dawn umbra ?

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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so i am not gonna do a binarry scan

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:55 PM

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either get teh mod author to fix their shit or use a higher count or don't use a (broken) proxy

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:56 PM

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FTB revelation

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Glad I haven't tried revelations on a bungee setup yet xD

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:56 PM

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@pale valve yes, you would have to remove it from the modpack and provide a modified version of it

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:57 PM

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it worked and it just didn't work after a proxy update

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Ah, try downgrading your proxy?

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If it worked before

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 4:57 PM

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er, what option do you have set that high?

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:58 PM

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inb4 they set the name limit

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 4:58 PM

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plugin_channel_name_limit: 10240

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 4:58 PM

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yes

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:58 PM

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🤦‍

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Raise it then, I assume

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:59 PM

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no

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...

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use the correct config option

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 4:59 PM

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That's the maximum length of the name of the channel

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Not the maximum number of channels

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Ah

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 4:59 PM

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marble kelp enabling ping-passthrough might fix it but it might break

This was in reference to my question,. yeah?

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 4:59 PM

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yes

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Doesn't ping-passthrough mess up player counts, etc?

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If the player count is spread cross multiple hexxit ii servers

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 5:00 PM

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yes, that's the goal of the option

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Hmm, thats unfortunate.

marble kelpBOT Nov 19, 2021, 5:00 PM

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use a server-side plugin/mod to display the global count in the ping response if it works I guess

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Hmm, okay. Ill look into that.

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 5:14 PM

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https://mcpaste.io/c4d136d2af74d208

MCPaste.io

A easy to use Paste site for Minecraft Server logs.

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here is the channel error i get

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 5:15 PM

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and your config?

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 5:16 PM

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https://mcpaste.io/b2de61d74f167711

MCPaste.io

A easy to use Paste site for Minecraft Server logs.

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here is proxy config

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 5:16 PM

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the waterfall config given that that is the one we've been talking about

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 5:18 PM

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or do you want the waterfall.yml

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cause i can't seem to find what you been kinda talking about

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 5:19 PM

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yes

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 5:20 PM

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wait are you saying i need to recreate my config file

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 5:20 PM

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no?

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 5:21 PM

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https://mcpaste.io/2c3a34fa8d647127

MCPaste.io

A easy to use Paste site for Minecraft Server logs.

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here is the yml

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 5:21 PM

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registered_plugin_channels_limit

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 5:21 PM

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yes

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and

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that is set to 10240

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 5:22 PM

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No

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you've been tweaking the wrong one

dawn umbra Nov 19, 2021, 5:23 PM

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oh fuck i seem to have hard time reading today

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ok it seemed to work

errant pagoda Nov 19, 2021, 5:46 PM

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is it possible for waterfall or bungee to "block" datapacks? a scripter is complaining about datapacks not working but i doubt its from it

reef fulcrum Nov 19, 2021, 5:46 PM

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no

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the proxy has nothing to do with datapacks itself, that's all on the server

errant pagoda Nov 19, 2021, 5:48 PM

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alright,cheers

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 7:18 PM

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My players keep getting this error, randomly, not all players. Is this related to waterfall?

quartz mauve Nov 19, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Damm that got nukes fast paperOhhh

quartz mauve Nov 19, 2021, 7:23 PM

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pale valve My players keep getting this error, randomly, not all players. Is this related t...

Do you have full logg, my guess a plugin is sending way to large packets

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 7:55 PM

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No errors.

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📎 message.txt

tulip surgeBOT Nov 19, 2021, 7:55 PM

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pale valve

message.txt by @pale valve: https://paste.gg/5e7dcb419ad34239917dfa0520dab235

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 7:55 PM

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Jon's Exclusives' remote config's mode is invalid happens for all logins btw

royal hawk Nov 19, 2021, 9:37 PM

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pale valve ```Jon's Exclusives' remote config's mode is invalid``` happens for all logins b...

It seems to be that mod, what game version are you running?

pale valve Nov 19, 2021, 9:38 PM

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The issue happens on all logins for that message, I think its irrelevent

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Even for successful logins.

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[21:39:50 INFO]: This server is running Mohist version 1.12.2-262 (MC: 1.12.2) (Implementing API version 1.12.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT, Forge version 14.23.5.2855)

royal hawk Nov 19, 2021, 9:46 PM

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I should say that forge-spigot hybrids are very unsupported whereever you go

fallow gate Nov 20, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Is anybody around who knows IPTables and can help me out? PLease ping me if you can 😄

loud tendon Nov 20, 2021, 4:36 AM

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fallow gate Is anybody around who knows IPTables and can help me out? PLease ping me if you ...

What do u want to achieve?

fallow gate Nov 20, 2021, 4:38 AM

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loud tendon What do u want to achieve?

Well, I'm looking to prevent an IP range from connecting to the node. There is this guy who is managing to dodge IP bans (maybe through some vpn that can get passed anti-vpn systems idk) and he is just kinda changing the last number of his IP. So I just want to ban the entire IP range. afaik this can only be done by denying the connection from the ip range with iptables. I just don't know how.

loud tendon Nov 20, 2021, 4:39 AM

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fallow gate Well, I'm looking to prevent an IP range from connecting to the node. There is t...


$ sudo iptables -A INPUT -s 116.10.191.0/24 -j DROP

To block 116.10.*.* addresses:

$ sudo iptables -A INPUT -s 116.10.0.0/16 -j DROP

To block 116.*.*.* addresses:

$ sudo iptables -A INPUT -s 116.0.0.0/8 -j DROP

But be careful what you block using this method. You don't want to prevent legitmate traffic from reaching the host.```

fallow gate Nov 20, 2021, 4:39 AM

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Ok so I would want to do the first one then. Thanks so much!

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You just saved me like hours of headache trying to find it in iptables documentation.

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 4:36 PM

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[16:14:02] [Netty Boss IO Thread #1/INFO]: Listening on /0.0.0.0:25565
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" java.io.IOError: java.io.IOException: Erreur d'entrée/sortie
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at org.jline.keymap.BindingReader.readCharacter(BindingReader.java:143)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at org.jline.keymap.BindingReader.readBinding(BindingReader.java:110)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at org.jline.keymap.BindingReader.readBinding(BindingReader.java:61)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at org.jline.reader.impl.LineReaderImpl.doReadBinding(LineReaderImpl.java:848)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at org.jline.reader.impl.LineReaderImpl.readBinding(LineReaderImpl.java:868)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at org.jline.reader.impl.LineReaderImpl.readLine(LineReaderImpl.java:575)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at org.jline.reader.impl.LineReaderImpl.readLine(LineReaderImpl.java:418)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at net.minecrell.terminalconsole.SimpleTerminalConsole.readCommands(SimpleTerminalConsole.java:158)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at net.minecrell.terminalconsole.SimpleTerminalConsole.start(SimpleTerminalConsole.java:141)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:72)
[16:19:53] [main/ERROR]:     at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)

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wath is me probleme ?

reef fulcrum Nov 20, 2021, 4:37 PM

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generally means that you didn't run the proxy in a proper console or you have a janky console

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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reef fulcrum generally means that you didn't run the proxy in a proper console or you have a ...

but why?

reef fulcrum Nov 20, 2021, 4:40 PM

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don't mention

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how are you running the jar?

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 4:40 PM

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it's the last waterfall the script to turn on the server is still the same i don't understand

reef fulcrum Nov 20, 2021, 4:40 PM

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okay

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and how are you running that script?

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/torukipexu.bash

reef fulcrum Nov 20, 2021, 4:43 PM

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not too sure in that case, screen has been kinda janky over the years, but, otherwise 🤷‍♂️

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 4:44 PM

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yesterday it worked

oak crane Nov 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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did you change anything to the script ?

royal hawk Nov 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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vast solstice yesterday it worked

Specify a shell. That should fix it. Your profile shell is jank to use with this

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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royal hawk Specify a shell. That should fix it. Your profile shell is jank to use with this

no i found

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server update java 16 to 17

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the problem is path java xD

oak crane Nov 20, 2021, 5:06 PM

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btw in your 8th line i'm pretty sure adding nogui as an argument is usless since waterfall doesnt have a gui

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correct me if im wrong tho

royal hawk Nov 20, 2021, 5:07 PM

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That doesn’t fix the underlying issue. You’re not specifying an env to run it in. That it works on an older java version is coincidence

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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most of my 14 servers use java 8 and waterfall needs java 16 for geyserv

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If not, thank you, I have no more problems.

oak crane Nov 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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how can i do it so when my players reconnect they go in the hub server instead of the server they were in?

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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oak crane how can i do it so when my players reconnect they go in the hub server instead o...

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/redirect-plus.51975/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Redirect Plus

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I use this

oak crane Nov 20, 2021, 5:22 PM

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vast solstice https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/redirect-plus.51975/

it doesnt seem to work tho, it still sends me to my towny server when i want it to send me to my queue server when logging in

royal hawk Nov 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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oak crane how can i do it so when my players reconnect they go in the hub server instead o...

There is an option in the config to force default server

oak crane Nov 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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it works now, had to change force_default_server: false to true in my config.yml

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yeah didnt notice it was on false by default

steel surge Nov 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Was about to say that, also hi minecon

oak crane Nov 20, 2021, 5:27 PM

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lmfao what

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since when are you here

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 6:11 PM

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oak crane it works now, had to change `force_default_server: false` to true in my config.y...

and it works ?

oak crane Nov 20, 2021, 6:11 PM

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vast solstice and it works ?

yep

vast solstice Nov 20, 2021, 6:12 PM

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i go test XD

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so normally kicks and bans or the server stops or restarts come back in the server default

tidal musk Nov 21, 2021, 12:05 PM

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Hi is it possible to connect waterfall to another waterfall server?

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 12:07 PM

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no

royal hawk Nov 21, 2021, 12:28 PM

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In theory; yes; but not without extensive modifications to waterfall

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And it goes without saying that we won’t help with that

prisma hedge Nov 21, 2021, 3:06 PM

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what java version i should use for waterfall?

severe badger Nov 21, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Java 17 will work fine

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:49 PM

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it keeps thinking that everyone's ip is 127.0.0.1, causing this: anyone know a fix?

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 3:53 PM

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narrow flower it keeps thinking that everyone's ip is 127.0.0.1, causing this: anyone know a f...

enable ip forwarding on your proxy and bungeecord in the spigot.yml of the other servers.

The Problem is that the server only sess that the player join via the bungeecord server and not from where they are really connected.

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:54 PM

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enable ip forwarding on your proxy
how?
and bungeecord in the spigot.yml of the other servers.
done

tidal musk Nov 21, 2021, 3:55 PM

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ip_forward: true in bungee.yml

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:55 PM

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ig it's waterfall.yml for waterfall

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nope ok

tidal musk Nov 21, 2021, 3:56 PM

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config.yml* my bad

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:56 PM

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k

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same error

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 3:57 PM

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did you restart both the proxy and the backend server?

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:57 PM

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i rebooted the proxy

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havent done the 2 servers yet

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 3:57 PM

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you also need to restart them so the bungeecord setting takes effect

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:58 PM

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both servers have now done

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still same error

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strange

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 3:58 PM

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what plugin do you use for that message?

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:58 PM

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wdym

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the proxy has no plugins

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 3:59 PM

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oh, sorry, ip forwarding and ips are not related to that error message

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:59 PM

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ok

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 3:59 PM

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you are trying to connect to the proxy twice

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:59 PM

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no

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 3:59 PM

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with the same account

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 3:59 PM

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no im not

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the server sees everyone as the same ip:
[15:58:07 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:46135] <-> InitialHandler has connected
[15:58:07 INFO]: [Deveroonie] disconnected with: Kicked whilst connecting to lobby: You are already connected to this proxy!

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 4:00 PM

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if you do glist in the proxy console, is there anyone online?

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:01 PM

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glist
[16:00:56 INFO]: [vanilla] (0):
[16:00:56 INFO]: [smp] (0):
[16:00:56 INFO]: [lobby] (0):
[16:00:56 INFO]: Total players online: 0

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 4:01 PM

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ok, strange

tidal musk Nov 21, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Are you sure lobby doesn't point to the same ip as your bungee?

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 4:02 PM

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inb4 you have waterfall tryna connect to itself

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shut up noah

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just cos you can tappey key faster, you know

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:02 PM

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when i join the console goes like this

[16:01:34 INFO]: [Deveroonie|/ee.ee.ee.ee:54764] <-> ServerConnector [lobby] has connected
[16:01:34 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:46339] <-> InitialHandler has connected
[16:01:35 INFO]: [Deveroonie] disconnected with: Kicked whilst connecting to lobby: You are already connected to this proxy!
[16:01:35 INFO]: [/81.109.31.135:54764|Deveroonie] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected
[16:01:35 INFO]: [Deveroonie|/81.109.31.135:54764] <-> ServerConnector [lobby] has disconnected

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:02 PM

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tidal musk Are you sure lobby doesn't point to the same ip as your bungee?

it does... i thought bungee was the hub

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 4:02 PM

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No, bungee is a proxy

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:02 PM

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ah shit

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on the hub how do i send my players to another server then

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 4:03 PM

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there is an entry in the config.yml for that

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:03 PM

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ok

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 4:04 PM

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there is a list of server names that the proxy tries to connect you to on login

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:04 PM

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should i give the proxy : 25565

tidal musk Nov 21, 2021, 4:04 PM

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If you want players to be able to connect without specifying a port, yes

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 4:04 PM

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there are plugins which you can install which will offer "pretty" ways to teleport across servers, as well as the built in /server command for players

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:04 PM

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ok

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"pretty" ways
shit like NPC's?

lost river Nov 21, 2021, 4:06 PM

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or portals

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:06 PM

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ok

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all the servers are up, now i get this:

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the ports are open and the servers are up

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i direct connected to the hub server and got this:

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can anyone help me fixit#

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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the proxy failed to connect to the server, check the logs, etc

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boils down to your setup and how you're running the servers, etc

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:41 PM

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logs dont suggest any issues

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:41 PM

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reef fulcrum boils down to your setup and how you're running the servers, etc

they are being run via the pterodactyl daemon on a private VPS

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 4:42 PM

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see ptero's documentation on setting up a network

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:42 PM

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should be the same as running it all on localhost

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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No, because the containers localhost is on its own network

narrow flower Nov 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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wdym

reef fulcrum Nov 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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it's a container