#waterfall-help | PaperMC | Page 46

tidal musk Dec 10, 2020, 1:51 PM

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repeatedly

proper prawn Dec 10, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Listen, we/he have/has to go thru the same thing each day.
It gets really tiring

tidal musk Dec 10, 2020, 1:52 PM

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yes it might be happening a lot, but if one person asks for help and you snap at them it doesnt give a good impression of the paper community does it

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just add a bot command with the requirements and trigger it

reef fulcrum Dec 10, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I'm ill, I have health issues, having people who consistently ignore me gets really tiring and annoying

tidal musk Dec 10, 2020, 1:52 PM

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no need for this

reef fulcrum Dec 10, 2020, 1:52 PM

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No need for this either

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if you're not happy with me, move on; I don't care

tidal musk Dec 10, 2020, 1:52 PM

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im expressing my opinion to make change

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not just you, but a lot of other people are toxic too

proper prawn Dec 10, 2020, 1:52 PM

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They come here repeatedly and also repeatedly fail to understand that we need basic understanding for us to provide help

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I think this is time to stop this conversation to avoid our further frustration

atomic trout Dec 10, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Please could I have some help with an issue which is blocking all players from connecting?
I have just switched to Waterfall from Aegis (a bungeecord fork) so I do not know all of the things that there is to know with Waterfall.

My issue is when anyone tries to ping the server, this error is sent in console (I will send full logs if needed)

>.... [17:16:06 ERROR]: [/51.38.99.159:45584] <-> InitialHandler - encountered exception: net.md_5.bungee.util.QuietException: Unexpected packet received during login process! 524f58592054435034203130392e3235
Another thing to note is my server is behind a HAProxy server hosted on a vps with the ip 51.38.99.159.

I have looked into this on google and found some Issue Reports on the waterfall github pointing this issue towards plugins. But it is not as I have removed all plugins, and yet this error continues to be sent when someone tries to ping the server.

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I apologise if I have formatted this wrongly or I am missing information that you need. I am happy to send anything that I am missing from this message if you ask!

still citrus Dec 10, 2020, 5:20 PM

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you could do with some more newlines

atomic trout Dec 10, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Sorry, let me edit the message

still citrus Dec 10, 2020, 5:23 PM

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👌🏿

atomic trout Dec 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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so?

still citrus Dec 10, 2020, 5:37 PM

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🤷🏿‍♀️ i don't do waterfall

atomic trout Dec 10, 2020, 6:46 PM

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dw i found a fix

normal sinew Dec 10, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Is there a general wiki for waterfall?

reef fulcrum Dec 10, 2020, 9:38 PM

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sorta

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.wiki

marble kelpBOT Dec 10, 2020, 9:38 PM

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https://paper.readthedocs.org

reef fulcrum Dec 10, 2020, 9:38 PM

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But, bungeecords wiki is generally the main source of info

normal sinew Dec 10, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I've been running paper for a little over a year and I need to switch to waterfall because of the playerbase. Just want to make sure the transition goes well lol

tough island Dec 11, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Did you get it working @atomic trout I too run Waterfall behind HAProxy and it's running really well.

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Also make sure you turn on Proxy Protocol in HAProxy (I use Version 2) and proxy_protocol: true in config.yml. otherwise you won't be passing through source IP's.

reef fulcrum Dec 11, 2020, 12:06 AM

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that just looks like they had the proxy pointing to haproxy or something

tough island Dec 11, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Well it should be Internet > HAProxy > Waterfall > PaperMC

tough island Dec 11, 2020, 12:15 AM

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reef fulcrum that just looks like they had the proxy pointing to haproxy or something

Well.. HAProxy is also making connections from the public IP, that also seems wrong.

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Sorry if that pinged btw... Still getting used to this reply feature

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 12:09 PM

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hey uh, I've set both of my servers to offline mode yet when I try to join the waterfall server it fails to connect for the reason "server is online mode"

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anything im missing?

atomic trout Dec 11, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Are you using a non-premium account?

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 12:10 PM

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no it's premium

atomic trout Dec 11, 2020, 12:10 PM

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alr

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what about your config.yml

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is online-mode true or false in there

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 12:10 PM

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both servers have set their online-mode set to false, bungee set to true and in config.yml (of the waterfall server) online mode is set to false

atomic trout Dec 11, 2020, 12:11 PM

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set online mode of the waterfall server to true for now

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and tell me if that works

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 12:13 PM

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doesnt look like it worked

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 12:34 PM

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think i figured out somehow

nimble zenith Dec 11, 2020, 12:46 PM

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if I use waterfall and viaversion or whatever the plugin called, can the players join with 1.7?

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I read "Travertine supports 1.7" or something like that

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 1:34 PM

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it should work, yes

nimble zenith Dec 11, 2020, 1:47 PM

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ok thanks

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 3:02 PM

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is setting ip_forward: value to true enough to enable ip forwarding or are there any additional steps that must be done?

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i've set it to true in my waterfall config.yml, and set bungeecord to true in all servers connected but whenever I try to join the server (that is not the proxy itself) I get this

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proper prawn Dec 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

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You must connect thru the proxy

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 3:05 PM

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no other chance?

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i mean im not trying to join the server itself, i just need to redirect the old players who have the old ip to the new server

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also luckperms bungee is telling me to set it to true, so i wanted to know if i was doing anything wrong

proper prawn Dec 11, 2020, 3:06 PM

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hoary osprey i mean im not trying to join the server itself, i just need to redirect the old ...

That's a separate thing

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That kick is for your own security

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Bypassing the proxy can lead to a lot of stuff

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 3:14 PM

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hmm

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 3:14 PM

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hoary osprey

so this does not mean that i have failed to set up IP forwarding?

proper prawn Dec 11, 2020, 3:15 PM

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you set it up correctly

hoary osprey Dec 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

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great

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thank you for your help

tepid tinsel Dec 12, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Getting the dreaded error, Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later: io.netty.channel.ConnectTimeoutException D:

tepid tinsel Dec 12, 2020, 4:35 PM

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https://paste.ofcode.org/Qf5gGpPifwbVvT6x3HT7MN < waterfall config, https://paste.ofcode.org/yR8uDS2Ehyr9dbSnnr8Vmg < Spigot.yml https://paste.ofcode.org/JYkTiU6J3GySBdEwzJgtqV < server.props https://paste.ofcode.org/8p7nJm5EE67jfVhzRqEFkp < paper.yml https://paste.ofcode.org/pHzBuC6T9kP5DPhDAjAedd < bukkit.yml using Waterfall #388

tepid tinsel Dec 12, 2020, 6:46 PM

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It's getting stuck on joining world?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 7:03 PM

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ConnectionTimedOut means that it failed to connect to the backend server

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Our ability to debug that stuff is generally limited, given that it falls into networking territory

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address: 0.0.0.0:25571

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Don't use 0.0.0.0, use a real address

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if just running raw on a dedi, e.g. no ptero, etc, use localhost

vast roost Dec 12, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Hi there, I have a problem with a player who is kicked because its message is too long, no error in the paper server, but an error on waterfall, (the player is in 1.9.4 and can come to the server with protocolsupport) https://hastebin.com/ecebihowof.properties

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 7:10 PM

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The player sent a chat message that was too long for their version of the client

vast roost Dec 12, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Do you know if the chat limit can be modified ? There are some mods that brings 1.16 chat limits to 1.9 launcher

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 7:29 PM

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if you modify the source, yes

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Hi

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im not sure what im doing wrong but i see all the bungee configs have "fallback servers"

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i can't seem to configure it in waterfall

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 7:50 PM

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fallback was removed years ago, use the priorities list

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 7:52 PM

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i did

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but still when i shutdown one server it does not fall back to the hub

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here is my config

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/e0da5517b90e4d77bbef50264ac8052e

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 7:53 PM

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That's normal

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You need a plugin if you want that to happen, the proxy doesn't automatically move people who are kicked from a server

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 7:53 PM

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oh and it does with bungee and not waterfall?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 7:53 PM

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bungee doesn't either

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 7:53 PM

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and what plugin can i use for this

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do you know of one of the top

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of your head?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 7:54 PM

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MoveMeNow

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🤷‍♂️

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or maybe not as somebody apparently stole the name, woo

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god knows

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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ok thanks i will look into it

gloomy sundial Dec 12, 2020, 9:07 PM

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what's the point of these builds if there are no changes

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reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 9:07 PM

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getting the downloads API to work

gloomy sundial Dec 12, 2020, 9:07 PM

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ah

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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hey zzcat

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im trying use movemenow

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but it doesn't work

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:02 PM

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probs need a different plugin

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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i dropped it in the plugins of the proxy server

valid stream Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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movemenow didn't work for me as well

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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nothing happens

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I was thinking of the plugin by laxwashere, beyond that 🤷‍♂️

valid stream Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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even on normal bungeecord

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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How am i suppose to kick my players to hub on server restarts

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;,(

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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oh, looks like lax removed it

valid stream Dec 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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there are other plugin as well

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:04 PM

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do you have any recommendations

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this happens

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:04 PM

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tidal musk

damnn

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same

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:04 PM

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He apparently called it HubKick now, unless that's slightly different

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beyond that 🤷‍♂️

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:04 PM

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can anyone help?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Your proxy failed to connect ot the backend server

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check your logs/config

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:05 PM

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hubkick was last updated in 2018

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ok to use?

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zzcat can i dm you the pastebin of my config?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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it's using API which literally hasn't changed in years

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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i mean log

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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No, I don't do 1:1 support

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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oh idk if it has my ip in it tho

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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You should be able of seeing if it does or not

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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it doesnt

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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if it does, mask it

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.paste

marble kelpBOT Dec 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

New · paste.gg

A sensible, modern pastebin. Share text and source code snippets with no hassle.

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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https://pastebin.com/9SipmgGY

Pastebin

cool - Pastebin.com

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reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

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nothing really useful there, all we see is that it seemingly didn't even get told nope

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make sure that your actual backend servers are running

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

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just saying it might be the waterfall bc i asked before what version of waterfall to use for 1.8 and they said use latest

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all backend servers are running

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but they are 1.8

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

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latest supports 1.8-1.16.4.

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that's a config/network issue

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how are you running the server?

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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self

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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waterfall config? anything in the server logs?

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:10 PM

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https://pastebin.com/Va8GKX7t

Pastebin

listeners:- query_port: 25577 motd: '&1&lCyde &e&l-&b&l Fun games ...

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reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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some people have set that setting bind_local_address to false can fix some oddball issues, beyond that,if everything is running and configured, no idea

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:12 PM

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im also using shortcuts

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can that harm it

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:12 PM

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shortcuts?

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:12 PM

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shortcut to the start.bat

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for all the servers

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I mean, if the logs are being thrown in the correct folder, no

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:14 PM

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mk

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ugh

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no work

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if anyone else can help pls do

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ive tried like 3 hub kick plugins

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all not working

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rip

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Ideally you want a plugin on the actual servers themselves, or, chances are you just gotta configure whatever you're using and make sure it picks up the server dead kicks and moves them to a new server

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:22 PM

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hubkick or movemenow has to be installed on the proxy plugin folder or every server plugin folder?

heady wasp Dec 12, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Hi, I operate a mostly hispanic minecraft server and have noticed players locales are set to en_us until they change a setting in the options. I'm assuming this is because the locale packet is sent once which is when you join, however if you move to another server it will not forward the language over to the other server, so players are en_us

I'm wondering if this can be fixed in waterfall?

marble kelpBOT Dec 12, 2020, 10:40 PM

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interestin

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I kinda wanna release my translator plugin that uses this to determine whether to even bother checking to translate

royal hawk Dec 12, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@heady wasp this is due to the way server switching works in bungeecord. If you use velocity or any 1.16 version or newer then this shouldn’t be an issue

heady wasp Dec 12, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Is it not fixed in waterfall?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:48 PM

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maybe disabling entity metadata rewriting would fix it

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Would need to look into it, I heard that that's supposed to actually already be done by the client or something, but, god knows

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 10:48 PM

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ugh im rly sad my server no work

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been trying for like a few hours'

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do i need bungeecord:true in spigot.yml on the servers

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 10:50 PM

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yes

heady wasp Dec 12, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yeah the client only sends the packet once (on join) or when a setting on the client is updated

royal hawk Dec 12, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@ zzzCat I’m pretty sure this is about bungeecords fake dimension/ server switching again

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@heady wasp have you tried this in 1.16 and if yes, does it still happen there?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 11:31 PM

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it will be, which is what disabling entity metadata rewriting fixes

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Afaik, we're much more on-par with how velocity works with that system disabled

royal hawk Dec 12, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Oh so disabling entity meta rewriting also hotwires server switching logic?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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yes

royal hawk Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Does it clear out the scoreboards too?

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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we pass through the join packet I think it was

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"yes"

royal hawk Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Yea you have to do that programmatically

reef fulcrum Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Issue is API, so that still causes issues with 318 or whatever it was

royal hawk Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Ok I’ve learned something

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I get it, bungeecord is a mess that requires special attention

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Also the server switching with this hotwired causes a full gc

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Unless you’re lucky

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I have to check that again later

tidal musk Dec 12, 2020, 11:53 PM

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does anybody know a hub/kick plugin for 1.16

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are hub server not on 1.16

tidal musk Dec 13, 2020, 12:21 AM

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?

final turtle Dec 13, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Hey, can anyone help me with my bug?

tidal musk Dec 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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My problem is fixed ty for all the support

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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I can't connect to one of my servers. io.netty.ConnectTimeoutException

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anyone know why?

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young rampart Dec 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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That usually means that the server is not ready for connections yet, like when it's currently starting, or you just set something up wrong

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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oh its running

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I set bungee to true, offline mode: true, and its setup in the bungee config

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Anyone know why?

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:38 AM

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That's generally network level issues assuming that you've actually got stuff pointing to the correct place, etc

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Yeah two of the three servers work

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i can connect to them

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but not this one

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:39 AM

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how are you hosting the servers?

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:39 AM

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on a dedicated server

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:39 AM

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using docker or ptero or something?

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:40 AM

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ptero

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ive opened the right ports

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:40 AM

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opened the right ports

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You mean, you're opening those ports to the world?

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As in, connecting to them with the public IP?

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Yeah ip:25570

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Don't do that

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That's a security exploit...

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bind the servers to the docker or the ptero interfaces IP and use that to connect to the server

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using the public IP is also spotty at best in varying datacenters and known to have oddball routing issues, etc

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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well you join with a domain

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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You join the domain which connects you to waterfall

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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yeah

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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all those backend servers do not need to be exposed to the public network

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bind them on a local interface which is shared between the containers

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:43 AM

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so 0.0.0.0

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:43 AM

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No, containers have their own isolated network

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hence, the docker or ptero network interface

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ptero might have some better guide on setting that up somewhere, general gist is that you use the network that's actually shared between containers as then you're not opening a gaping security hole for no reason

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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oh okay

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ill fix that later, after i figure out why i cant connect to this server

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Fix that now

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Your issues are relating to the network or your configuration

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fixing that may fix two birds with one stone

azure dagger Dec 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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alright

tidal musk Dec 13, 2020, 1:30 PM

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simpel plugin for kicking players to hub

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bungeekick.1310/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

BungeeKick

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works up to 1.16

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Also
i was wondering if anyone know a simple plugin to show players on server hover for bungeecord

tepid tinsel Dec 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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With geyser, viaversion, floodgate, do they need to be on all servers and bungee, or just bungee?

tidal musk Dec 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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viaversion is server specific i think

reef fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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geyser is a proxy last I knew

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You'd need to go see their docs or whatever

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via can be done on either, but recommended on the servers outside of snapshots

tepid tinsel Dec 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Oo i see

coral oracle Dec 13, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Question, the recommended flags for Waterfall. Do they make any difference really? Or are they just preferred.

unreal stag Dec 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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they do, they tune the garbage collector so you don't get lag spikes on the proxy

tidal musk Dec 13, 2020, 8:08 PM

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what's waterfall

delicate phoenix Dec 13, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Yeah, waterfall is a proxy? 🤔

dull dock Dec 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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tidal musk what's waterfall

waterfall is a proxy, meaning it connects multiple minecraft servers together. Its like multiverse or whatever on steroids

marble kelpBOT Dec 13, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I wouldn't make that comparison, cuz plugin data isn't shared n stuff

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that's the primary reason why I haven't bothered with a proxy, + managing one server is more than enuf 4 me

dull dock Dec 13, 2020, 11:32 PM

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not the most accurate comparision, but its an easy explanation

boreal notch Dec 14, 2020, 12:35 AM

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I hope you all have a good day, I have a question with the proxy, how do I prevent it from redirecting users.
Because if a user tries to enter a server with the wrong version, the proxy sends it to another server corresponding to the user's version.
Hope it can be understood. [sorry for the bad english, translator]

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Well, that's the priority list

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if you only have one server in there, it will only try to connect them to one server

boreal notch Dec 14, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Oh, so if i remove the server from the priority list, the proxy dont send the user to the another server?

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and you recommend only have one server (like lobby) in that list?

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 12:42 AM

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if you only want people to be able to join into one server, yes

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That's how the entire priority system works, if it can't connect to one, it will try the other

boreal notch Dec 14, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Wow thank you so much! tkm

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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what does this mean?

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shouldnt the proxy forward you automatically to the hub server?

proper prawn Dec 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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did you enable bungeecord in the lobby's config

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:17 PM

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ya

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reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:17 PM

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did you enable ip forwarding in the proxy?

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I thiiiinkkk that was disabled by default coz mah vanilla? i forget

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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why do i need it enabled tho?

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like what does it do

proper prawn Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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forwards ips

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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"forward ip's yes"

proper prawn Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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who could've thought

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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forwards IP data

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and UUID data

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So, erm... yea... you probs want that

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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but why doesnt it do it by default if it has to be enabled anyway?

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Because it breaks the login packet in doing so

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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oh ok

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so just vanilla reasons

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also why is online mode off by default

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:20 PM

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don't recall that being off by default thonk

proper prawn Dec 14, 2020, 2:20 PM

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DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:21 PM

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unless i turned it off in the wrong config lol

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yeah just me being dum

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:21 PM

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typical DED

proper prawn Dec 14, 2020, 2:23 PM

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You can't spell "recipe", Cat

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:25 PM

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In my defence, I did that before I went to bed or just after waking up or something

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Yea, I'd just woke up

proper prawn Dec 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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23:57
Just woke up

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the fuck is wrong with your sleep schedule

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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[15:22:22 ERROR]: Error occurred while enabling Bungeewidewarps-Client v1.0-SNAPSHOT (Is it up to date?)
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Channel must contain : separator (attempted to use Bungeewidewarps-Client)

Offending line:
this.getServer().getMessenger().registerOutgoingPluginChannel(this, this.getName());
Why is a separator required?

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should that go in dev?

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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uses namespaced keys now

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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ah

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whats the convention for that?

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<pluginName>:<oogabooga>?

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:27 PM

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yes

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:29 PM

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public void onPluginMessageReceived(String channel, Player player, byte[] message) {
    if(!channel.equals(plugin.getName())) return;
    ByteArrayDataInput in = ByteStreams.newDataInput(message);
    String subchannel = in.readUTF();
    if(subchannel.equals("GetServers")){
        new ServerListGui(in.readUTF().split(", "));
    }else if(subchannel.equals("GetWarps")){

    }
}

however this is still correct right?

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well except the getname then

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bruh its so picky

proper prawn Dec 14, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Java™️

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:32 PM

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needs to be all lowercase too

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Well, subchannel is a bungee messaging channel concept

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it's just an extra bit of data write into the stream

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:34 PM

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yeah but those are the bungee defaults right?

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like GetServers

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GetPlayers

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 2:34 PM

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If you're using the bungee messaging channel, yea

wild trellis Dec 14, 2020, 2:35 PM

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public static void send(Plugin plugin, Player player, String type) {
        ByteArrayDataOutput out = ByteStreams.newDataOutput();
        out.writeUTF(type);
        player.sendPluginMessage(plugin, player.getName(), out.toByteArray());
    }

basically doing this

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its a plugin message ig?

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wait this doesnt seem right

royal hawk Dec 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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type and what you wanna do too

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iirc that cant be empty

reef fulcrum Dec 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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erm

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I forget the params, but, that looks dumb

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specifically player.getName

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that should prooobs just be your channel name

royal hawk Dec 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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oh yea that too

junior locust Dec 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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whats the difference between waterfall and normal bungeecord?

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nvm

loud tendon Dec 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/1ac08e8d053de058eb7185ca95622ae5.png

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some randoms players are being dissconected with this errror?

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Like, i have 150 players, and maybe only 5 players get disconnected with this message.

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The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server

karmic canopy Dec 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Hey! Prepping to move to Waterfall and have a few dumb questions

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Do I need to install any extra software/plugins for players to communicate across linked servers? Or will the /list command and chat automatically include everyone online?

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Do I need to install plugins in every single server, like Essentials and WorldGuard?

marble kelpBOT Dec 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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yes to the questions, no to the guess

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well

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idk if bungee has a list like command but ya u gotta do all the syncing urself

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or with bungee plugins

karmic canopy Dec 15, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Ah. So if I have essentials running on three servers, I have to update essentials three times?

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That's annoying haha, but I guess it makes conceptual sense

marble kelpBOT Dec 15, 2020, 2:47 AM

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yea

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exactly why I never bothered with proxies

karmic canopy Dec 15, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Do you just run everything on one server?

marble kelpBOT Dec 15, 2020, 2:53 AM

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yup

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then again my idea is to have more things shared than separated

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so it makes tons more sense for me to just run everything together instead of dealing with the overhead of sharing data amongst plugins

karmic canopy Dec 15, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Ah gotcha

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That's how I've operated so far. I might go ask in general, see what other people think

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(no offense to you, really appreciate your help)

marble kelpBOT Dec 15, 2020, 2:57 AM

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don't worry I'm there too c:

karmic canopy Dec 15, 2020, 2:58 AM

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😄

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 3:14 AM

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How do I use placeholder api with waterfall?

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 9:42 PM

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hi

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i have an issue with waterfall bungee permissions not working at all

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here is my config file

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/04a04248a7284c43a89d4b8046f525dd

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end when i try to /send

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i get permission denied

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I mean, 2 second look shows that you do not have the send permission in there

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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i have no permissions plugin on the paper server

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Also, perms are not inherited

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and the paper server is 100% irrelevant for the send command

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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i have set in group

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my username

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with - admin

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that's what all the tutorials say to do online

royal hawk Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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if you want a sensible way to configure permissions on bungeecord install Luckperms and use that.

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Yes, and your admin group does not have the send permission

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and the tutorial is dumb, you want both admin and default

royal hawk Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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^ or spare yourself from that and use Luckperms

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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reef fulcrum and the tutorial is dumb, you want both admin and default

ok thanks i will add this

royal hawk Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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This is much like the permissions yml on paper servers. It exists and works but realistically nobody uses it

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shrug

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 9:55 PM

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does luckperms manage bungee perms?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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if you install it on bungee, yes

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:00 PM

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if i install it on bungee do i need to install it on the servers too?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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No, just if you're using it there, you might as well use it for the entire network

#

I'd suggest reading their wiki, they have a ton of info on how to work with it

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:18 PM

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im a little confused on the diffrence between puting a plugin in bungee vs putting it in normal server plugin folder

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can i put essentialsX or worldedit in the bungeecord plugins folder and have it work on all my servers for example?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:21 PM

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No, because they're not bungee plugins

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bungee has no access to read or modify the world state, or inventories, etc, etc, etc

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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and some plugins can be both? is that correct?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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yes

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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like luckperms can manage permissions for players on all server from just the proxy

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is that right?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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no

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Bungee and backend servers are entirely seperate instances

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the proxy cannot modify state in the server, the server cannot directly modify state in the proxy

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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royal hawk if you want a sensible way to configure permissions on bungeecord install Luckpe...

?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yes, you install luckperms on the proxy and the servers

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LP can work purely on the proxy if you want

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Just, if it's only on the proxy, you won't be able to manage perms on the actual servers from the proxy

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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reef fulcrum LP can work purely on the proxy if you want

so no need to install perm plugin on all the servers then

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Read the entirety of what I said

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:27 PM

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reef fulcrum Just, if it's only on the proxy, you won't be able to manage perms on the actual...

so you're saying i won't have lp commands on the servers

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Please stop pinging

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:27 PM

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and i will have to do it with config files?

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sorry

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 10:28 PM

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if you want LP on the servers, you install it on the servers

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if you want LP on the proxy itself, you install it on the proxy

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if you wanna be able to manage perms on bungee and the servers from the same system/place, you install it on both

#

once again, I'd heavily suggest reading their wiki

tidal musk Dec 15, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Thanks this is a bit clearer sorry i will read up on the wiki now

wild robin Dec 15, 2020, 11:36 PM

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in my config.yml for waterfall, the default server is not asked for

#

how do i add it myself?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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that's the priorities list now

wild robin Dec 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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ok

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how do i change the priorities list?

marble kelpBOT Dec 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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you edit it in the config

wild robin Dec 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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where in the config

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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in the listeners section

wild robin Dec 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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oh ok

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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last I knew it was literally called priorities

wild robin Dec 15, 2020, 11:39 PM

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i found it

📎 Screenshot_809.png

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that is for default server?

reef fulcrum Dec 15, 2020, 11:40 PM

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It's a list, it tries to join you to the server in the order of that list

wild robin Dec 15, 2020, 11:53 PM

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📎 Screenshot_810.png

#

what

#

why

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it wont connect for some reason

#

im using the correct ip

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 12:54 AM

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[18:53:32 WARN]: [/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:40866|Mattrolol] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [Hub] - NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: Connection reset by peer

#

help

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 12:55 AM

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something closed the connection in an unexpected manner

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 12:55 AM

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so how can i fix it?

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 12:56 AM

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work out what closed the connection, basically

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 12:56 AM

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ok

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 12:56 AM

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DownstreamBridge is the connection between the proxy to the server

#

I'd suggest checking the logs of the server, might be some info in there, but 🤷‍♂️

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Mattrolol lost connection: Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: io.netty.util.IllegalReferenceCountException: refCnt: ```

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 1:04 AM

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something messed up the connections state somehow

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 1:04 AM

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all the server is on localhost

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 1:05 AM

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You're gonna probably wanna run with debug mode in potentially server.properties and maybe spigot.yml

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 1:05 AM

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ok

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Yes, but some software on the server mangled the connections state on the server

#

refCnt means that something messed with a reference counter somewhere

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 1:07 AM

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https://pastebin.com/EQ6ZCw6L

Pastebin

[19:06:37 WARN]: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: io.netty....

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reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 1:08 AM

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looks like ViaVersion

olive skiff Dec 16, 2020, 1:09 AM

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ah

#

prob im using 1.8

#

yea it is

tidal musk Dec 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Hello, anybody knows what is happening?
Trying to connect to my skywars server, from my lobby, Lobby is in 1.14.4 paper, and Skywars on 1.8.8 spigot
Of course I have via version on my network
https://pastebin.com/aGzEsAfh

Pastebin

[23:32:54 INFO]: [BananaMYM|/HIDDEN] <-> ServerConnector [skywars] ...

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royal hawk Dec 16, 2020, 5:53 AM

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@tidal musk a bungee plugin you have is incompatible with 1.16

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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that might actually be on me

royal hawk Dec 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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thonkwot

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Looks like the entity metadata rewriting disabled stuff wasn't updated properly

royal hawk Dec 16, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Well that would do it

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Hmmm, I'd need to have a look, my brains semi fuzzed right now

royal hawk Dec 16, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I can in 40 min if you’re cool with that

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If you borked it then I should be able to find it

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 5:57 AM

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wait, that looks impossible to be the case

#

replicate without plugins™

royal hawk Dec 16, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Yea that’s why I said that. I’ll look at the patch later regardless

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I just saw the cast to integer there, that block of code is in the else of a if ( user.getServer() == null || !( login.getDimension() instanceof Integer ) )

#

Now, tierh my brains fuzzed to all heck and I can no longer java, or, yea

tidal musk Dec 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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So, should I wait ir remove some plugins?

royal hawk Dec 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

^

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If you have a queue or fallback plugin remove those first

tidal musk Dec 16, 2020, 6:03 AM

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these are my plugins

#

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proper prawn Dec 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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offlinemode
just yoink everything and see if it works

proper prawn Dec 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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reef fulcrum Now, tierh my brains fuzzed to all heck and I can no longer java, or, yea

That message summarizes your ability to do code

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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proper prawn Dec 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

Cat, go to sleep

tidal musk Dec 16, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

royal hawk <@456226577798135808> a bungee plugin you have is incompatible with 1.16

Wait, 1.16? I have 4 servers on that network,
1.14
1.16
1.16
And the problem is with 1.8.8

#

1.16 servers are working fine

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

Something is sending a bad packet

stuck radish Dec 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

#

Is there a way to get rid of high ping on waterfall, ever since i added water fall my ping got high and when i direct connect to the main server my ping is low

reef fulcrum Dec 16, 2020, 12:28 PM

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We have no idea what causes it

#

for 99.9% of people bungee in general is fine, for some reason there is that .1% which has issues

stuck radish Dec 16, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Like when I join using the waterfall server my ping is like 2.1k ms and when I direct connect to the main server my ping is at stable 50ms

#

In terms of the location, the waterfall server is at US and the main server is at Singapore idk if that helps but yea

unreal stag Dec 16, 2020, 12:41 PM

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@stuck radish this kind of setup is not recommended and is likely why you have the problem

wild robin Dec 16, 2020, 4:27 PM

#

my server is on 25565 port

📎 Screenshot_811.png

#

and this is the ip in my mc

📎 Screenshot_812.png

#

but it wont connect

#

📎 Screenshot_810.png

#

hmm

#

lol

#

when i switch to bungeecord, it works

#

that is strange

#

but it doesnt work on waterfall.

marble kelpBOT Dec 16, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

it might not bind to localhost if you set it to 0.0.0.0

wild robin Dec 16, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

it was automaticly at 0.0.0.0

marble kelpBOT Dec 16, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

make sure bind_local_address is set to true

#

(or explicitely set the host to localhost in your config)

royal hawk Dec 16, 2020, 7:18 PM

#

https://github.com/Xernium/Waterfall/releases/tag/20w51a-01 a happy holiday snapshot

GitHub

Release Snapshot 20w51a · Xernium/Waterfall

Waterfall with support for snapshot 20w51a

#

📎 Bildschirmfoto_2020-12-16_um_20.07.44.png

nimble zenith Dec 17, 2020, 8:30 AM

#

why there is no banned players for proxy servers? or icon?

reef fulcrum Dec 17, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Because plugins can offer more than trying to maintain 20 plugins and a proxy in a single project

#

and what do you mean, icon? if you mean the server list, works the same as the vanilla server, just slap the image in there, there is a client issue which causes it to not render it

tough island Dec 17, 2020, 11:41 AM

#

nimble zenith why there is no banned players for proxy servers? or icon?

You know you can point banmanager to a centralised database.

quartz current Dec 17, 2020, 1:43 PM

#

Hey, i trie to fork waterfall but i dont know how to save new changes (i think it works with git bash with the command ./waterfall e). Can anyone help me???

quartz current Dec 17, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Have it finaly 🙂 Just "mvn clean install"

royal hawk Dec 17, 2020, 2:33 PM

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@quartz current read the CONTRIBUTING.md about how the patch system works. Once you rebuilt the repo after changing something, you can then use the normal build command.

spare wolf Dec 17, 2020, 10:43 PM

#

any ideas about this?

📎 unknown.png

marble kelpBOT Dec 17, 2020, 11:11 PM

#

are you using mods? or maybe it's some plugin

unique kiln Dec 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

#

How would one accomplish a lobby with a paper mc server, in which you choose which world to go to, and then get spawned there.

marble kelpBOT Dec 17, 2020, 11:42 PM

#

you use /server or some kind of plugin which can send you to a different server

left finch Dec 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

#

when switching to waterfall do I need to reinstall the plugins and do it over or can I just replace the bungeecord jar file with it

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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no, you just need to replace the jar

left finch Dec 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

#

Ok great!

acoustic olive Dec 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

#

Hello, I have a small problem that has already been consuming me for many days, by some chance that the users of the server disconnect and reconnect they lose their items, I do not know what kind of failure it is, could someone help me?

#

📎 unknown.png

#

these are all plugins

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

#

wrong channel...

dusky oriole Dec 18, 2020, 5:43 AM

#

i fliped my table (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

?kick @dusky oriole Spam

rotund valleyBOT Dec 18, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

dynoSuccess xXIm_Like_A_PoXx#1130 was kicked | Spam

zinc raven Dec 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

#

Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later: io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AnnotatedConnectException

#

keeps crashing

#

And this error:

📎 d2663a3e17d5392f779b01dae990c257.png

#

Was working perfectly until suddenly

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 6:14 AM

#

All that tells us is that the proxy couldn't connect to the server for some reason, that's generally due to a server not running or some network/configuration issue, if localhost, some people have had to change the option in config.yml to flip the localhost bind

zinc raven Dec 18, 2020, 6:15 AM

#

I'm using a server host

#

So it's on them?

#

And it is my bungee 'server' issue and not the others ex. creative?

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

it's something breaking the connection between the proxy and the server

zinc raven Dec 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

Thank you

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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that's generally down to how the hosts network is setup

left finch Dec 18, 2020, 6:21 AM

#

literally found a command /end that ends the waterfall instance 😂

zinc raven Dec 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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ah worked issue with the hub

#

thanks!

bold parcel Dec 18, 2020, 7:23 AM

#

wat

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20w51a came out?

#

since when

#

AXOLOLTL AAAAAA

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oh wow playersSleepingPercentage

#

that's neat

tidal musk Dec 18, 2020, 9:43 AM

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@tidal musk ;(

spare wolf Dec 18, 2020, 11:10 AM

#

unique kiln How would one accomplish a lobby with a paper mc server, in which you choose whi...

server selecor x or advanced waterfalls is good

spare wolf Dec 18, 2020, 11:11 AM

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zinc raven And this error:

make sure if the servers are on the same machine to set the paper servers network compression threashhold to -1 had the same problem

calm ether Dec 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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hello everyone, i have a high amount of <-> InitialHandler - read timed out in my proxy console, am i the only one ?
i was thinking it could be pings that "fails" but i'm not sure.

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 1:18 PM

#

something is opening a connection to the server and timing out before it even gets too far, basically

tidal musk Dec 18, 2020, 2:55 PM

#

Hi. Im experiencing a weird issue with waterfall.

[14:53:15 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:52870] <-> InitialHandler has connected
[14:53:16 INFO]: [Pistonmaster|/127.0.0.1:52870] <-> ServerConnector [queue] has connected
> send Pistonmaster main
[14:54:16 INFO]: Send Results:
[14:54:16 INFO]: ALREADY_CONNECTED: 1
[14:54:16 INFO]: EVENT_CANCEL: 0
[14:54:16 INFO]: FAIL: 0
[14:54:16 INFO]: ALREADY_CONNECTING: 0
[14:54:16 INFO]: SUCCESS: 0
[14:54:16 INFO]: Attempting to send 1 players to main
```
I am in the queue server and my plugin tried moving me to the main, but it said im already connected. Then i tried moving myself manually, but it somehow said im already in my main server. But im not.

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My config:

servers:
  main:
    motd: '&1Just another BungeeCord - Forced Host'
    address: localhost:25565
    restricted: false
  queue:
    motd: '&1Just another BungeeCord - Forced Host'
    address: localhost:25566
    restricted: false

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All servers are up and running. Just facing this very weird issue.

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 2:59 PM

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do you have a queue plugin, or?

tidal musk Dec 18, 2020, 2:59 PM

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i do

#

i code it myself, but this isn't related to it.

#

Waterfall is somehow not moving myself even without my plugin.

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because i tried sending myself manually

reef fulcrum Dec 18, 2020, 3:02 PM

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The Q is more, "is the plugin setting the destination server to the queue server"

tidal musk Dec 18, 2020, 3:03 PM

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it is

#

hm

#

when i think about it it is maybe changing the destination even when i do it manually

#

i gotta check my code again

#

i see

#

my plugin is doing something

#

when sending myself

tidal musk Dec 18, 2020, 3:38 PM

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it works now! partycat thank you

tidal musk Dec 18, 2020, 5:41 PM

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will warning about usessl=false disturb server running?

delicate phoenix Dec 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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No, but you can uncomment it in the lp config

#

See #community-guilds for luckperms related support :P

night wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Hello, is it possible to disable the message that a player receives when he is sent to a server, using the /send command, the Summoned to server by player message?

fervent lagoon Dec 18, 2020, 10:14 PM

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what could cause this?
Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: The received a byte array longer than allowed 61696 > 32767

marble kelpBOT Dec 18, 2020, 10:15 PM

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something send too much data, most likely a chat message

royal hawk Dec 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Send the full error if you want us to be able to diagnose it

mystic sky Dec 19, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Hey! I currently have a minecraft network and made a new lobby, included it in config.yml and set the bungeecord: false to true in the lobby's spigot.yml but it still redirects me to the old lobby any ideas on why?

mystic sky Dec 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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the message it throws when doing /server newlobby is the fallback_kick one

silver walrus Dec 19, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Hello all. I'm currently running a successful paper server, but I want to get into transforming that into a Waterfall server. I've looked around and haven't really seen any "getting started" guides. Should I mainly follow how Bungee is set up? or is there a place I haven't seen yet with assistance with first time setup?

valid stream Dec 19, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Bungee setup

silver walrus Dec 19, 2020, 8:54 PM

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ty 😄

valid stream Dec 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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np

royal hawk Dec 19, 2020, 9:05 PM

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@mystic sky that’s still not enough info for us to help. Please provide the log from your proxy using https://paste.gg and maybe a screenshot of the error on the client?

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tough island Dec 20, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Just set up BungeeChat on my waterfall proxy.... Oh my god, why have I not done this earlier... Also Just need to figure out the leave/join messages between servers.

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    ServerSwitchMessages {
        enabled=true
    }
``` Hmmm, that's on but still not showing...

topaz hollow Dec 20, 2020, 5:43 AM

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which are the differences between bungee, water and flamecord

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 5:44 AM

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waterfall is a fork of bungeecord with the goal of improving performance, flamecord tries to add extra protection ontop which from our own anaysis is mostly mute and often harmful in some cases

topaz hollow Dec 20, 2020, 5:45 AM

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so we can conclude that if I dont want to have complications water is the best?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 5:45 AM

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water or velocity, basically

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There's still some stuff I wanna patch in waterfall, some improvements aren't really viable without making changes to waterfall which would break plugins hooking into the internals, etc

topaz hollow Dec 20, 2020, 5:46 AM

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thx

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oh and can I replace my bungee.jar for the waterfall?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 5:57 AM

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yup

left finch Dec 20, 2020, 6:23 AM

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How do i prevent deopped players from using /end

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they can basically just end the waterfall running server

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

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op has nothing to do with that, just, don't give them the perm/admin group in bungee

left finch Dec 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

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i see

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appreciated i got really confused

left finch Dec 20, 2020, 6:56 AM

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I can add a server-icon to my bungeecord server files or to each of my server's seperately?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 6:56 AM

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well, unless you're using ping passthrough, you ping the proxy itself

left finch Dec 20, 2020, 6:57 AM

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ok

tidal musk Dec 20, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Hello, could someone kinda explain me the following: so I posted a reddit post where I mentioned I'm gonna be running around 16 worlds on one server. Someone there said I should use Waterfall if so. What is Waterfall and why should I use it?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:41 PM

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waterfall is a proxy which allows you to jump between servers

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16 worlds on a server, especially modern MC, is gonna be very ouch for performance

tidal musk Dec 20, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Yep, I'm considering running on 1.12.2 and only allowing 1.16.4 or something like that

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I have one user in particular who can't seem to connect reliably for more than a couple seconds, no matter what we try. Any idea why that might be? I picked a handful of disconnects from the waterfall log.

https://pastebin.com/8LbyknTm

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[16:38:04] [Netty Worker IO Thread #7/WARN]: [/46.76.241.19:64118|A...

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reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:48 PM

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.895

marble kelpBOT Dec 20, 2020, 4:48 PM

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https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/895#issuecomment-372175216

GitHub

Netty Issues - Players Kicked & Cannot Log In & Ping Issues - 1.12....

I am not sure who's domain this falls under, Spigot, Paper, Mojang etc. Players are being kicked at random and cannot log back if if there is a player within render distance. Netty Error: i...

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Why is paper.playerconnection.keepalive considered a last resort? To be honest, all the other things do not apply to my server (sadly, because then I'd have ways to fix it easily)

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Because it's a mask for the issue, and in this case useless to you

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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So basically I have no way of helping this player

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I mean, outside of the list, not really

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one core part of the list is to work out the cause

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Could a plugin block the login process for a singular player only?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Because I always forget this:
UpstreamBridge - client > proxy
DownstreamBridge - proxy > server

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Because that is then the only thing I can think of, other players have no issues with this, just in one instance a while ago someone had this but it fixed itself rather quickly.

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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reef fulcrum Because I always forget this: UpstreamBridge - client > proxy DownstreamBridge -...

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Well, the issue is that the client hasn't sent a packet in so long

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if it's just one player, it's either gonna be some plugin loading data or a network issue on their side or an issue with their client stalling for some reason

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 4:55 PM

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We don't use texture packs, our connection is fine for every other player including NA and EU players, scoreboard.dat might be a thing (that's the tab-list right?) although I installed that after that player already had issues so...I mean it could help but I doubt it will fix it entirely. Large amounts of packets through shulkers....Maybe? I would have to tp to the player potentially and check or tp the player somewhere else and see if that is still borked then

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If I tp the player outside to an area with no chests/shulkers, would that potentially be able to identify the cause if he doesn't dc?

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It's kinda hard to troubleshoot this.

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:58 PM

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if that caused them to stall out, yes

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That's why I provide a list

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 4:58 PM

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and scoreboard.dat is the tab-list thing, right?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 4:59 PM

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scoreboards are used for tab, yes

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 5:01 PM

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thanks for the help, I'll try some things

solemn pagoda Dec 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Disabling scoreboard and teleporting him has brought no relief sadly. he does get errors that are not related to keepalive timouts though.

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sometimes even
"The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server"
which is simply false

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mostly readTimeoutException : null

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Any idea what else I can do to troubleshoot? The user has tried different wifi networks, restarting pc and router...I can only imagine that something with TCPshield is fucking up the routing to him at this point

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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it only disables proxy commands

tranquil flicker Dec 20, 2020, 5:51 PM

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when i start my server it immediately closes.
ive tried it for multiple versions and same thing happens every time

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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provide logs

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.paste

marble kelpBOT Dec 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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(also, probs wrong channel...)

tranquil flicker Dec 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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reef fulcrum provide logs

there are none it literally just opens downloads original jar, patches it then closes. it doesn't create a uela.txt or a logs file or anything

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Try running it from a command prompt or something

tranquil flicker Dec 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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reef fulcrum Try running it from a command prompt or something

im using a batch file

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Please don't ping

tranquil flicker Dec 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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reef fulcrum Please don't ping

im not?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 6:03 PM

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edit the batch file, add PAUSE onto the last line, see what it says; Also, yea, wrong channel

tranquil flicker Dec 20, 2020, 6:05 PM

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reef fulcrum edit the batch file, add PAUSE onto the last line, see what it says; Also, yea, ...

oops
https://bit.ly/3rmNYCX

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ill switch to correct channel now

signal trout Dec 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Waterfall and travertine downloads are broken atm, had someone else confirm

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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it's being worked on

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That's why you don't trust drunk people

signal trout Dec 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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xD

supple cypress Dec 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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hi a quick question, if i use travertine i need to use ViaRewind to allow 1.7 player right ?
And if i use Waterfall and then i go with Travertine, there is nothing to set up ?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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what?

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waterfall and travertine are proxies, travertine just adds 1.7.x protocol support on it

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You'd still need a server capable of handling that version

supple cypress Dec 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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yep so if i want 1.7 on my server i must use travertine ? or it will work with waterfall ?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Yes, you must use travertine

supple cypress Dec 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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okay so travertine + ViaRewind on a server ? or a 1.7 old spigot ? both work ?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 7:02 PM

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yes

royal hawk Dec 20, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Both works. Do keep in mind that Via* is incompatible with 1.7 servers

supple cypress Dec 20, 2020, 7:02 PM

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yep but 1.7 server are very very old so i will take a newer version with ViaRewind i think

signal trout Dec 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Downloads seem to be fixed 😄

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Yea, some of us are pros

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glares over at mini

royal hawk Dec 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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If you need another sysadmin do hit me up lol. That is after New Years though. I’m hella busy these days

heady wave Dec 20, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Hi i'm trying to use geyser on my network. I've already asked in the geyser help discord and they said my problem is proxy related. So i'm here.
I've installed geyser on bungeecord and floodgate on bungee and spigot server. The server seems to work but after few seconds i'm getting this error "ip forwarding is enabled but spoofed data can't be decoded or is missing"

I'm using travertine latest build. Any help?

reef fulcrum Dec 20, 2020, 7:43 PM

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That's a plugin or something

heady wave Dec 20, 2020, 7:49 PM

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maybe bot sentry?

topaz hollow Dec 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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generaly how much ram do I need for waterfall

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I just have buycraftX and skinsrestorer

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is it ok with 128mb?

tidal musk Dec 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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topaz hollow is it ok with 128mb?

512mb is normal and stable

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But if you dont have much maybe that okay

topaz hollow Dec 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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thx

topaz hollow Dec 20, 2020, 9:59 PM

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does deluxehub work to put together all my network servers?

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nvm

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 1:34 AM

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whats wrong

📎 unknown.png

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any help?

unreal stag Dec 21, 2020, 1:36 AM

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You are trying to connect directly to a server with BungeeCord forwarding enabled. This is a security issue on your part, firewall off that server so that only the proxy can connect to it and connect through the proxy in the future.

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 1:37 AM

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what steps

unreal stag Dec 21, 2020, 1:38 AM

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this is covered in just about every setup guide for BungeeCord/Waterfall I'm aware of

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 1:38 AM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-installation/ i think here

BungeeCord Installation | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

The home of Spigot a high performance, no lag customized CraftBukkit Minecraft server API, and BungeeCord, the cloud server proxy.

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my firewall is all russian

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i cant even see

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hold on lemme bring my iphone to translate

unreal stag Dec 21, 2020, 1:42 AM

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my firewall is all russian
hold on lemme bring my iphone to translate
Then it's about as good as useless

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God bless you then. I've got other stuff to do.

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 1:44 AM

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maybe someone else can help

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ok i fixed it

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but i got this error

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how do i fix it

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Turn your backend server into offline mode by setting online-mode to false in server.properties

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 1:54 AM

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bungee?

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i put ALL servers in offline mode

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its stil saying the same thing

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or im just stupid

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 1:55 AM

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well the error message is telling you the server you're connecting to is in online mode so idk

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 1:56 AM

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i do not know the problem

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ip forward is on too

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WHAT IS GOING ON

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yup back at it again with the dead chat

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Go through the installation guide again step by step I guess, make sure you're fully restarting the servers too when you make the changes

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:01 AM

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oh my lobby server is crashing for sum reason

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while uhc is working

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what is happening

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why is my lobby server crashing

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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.paste logs, no one is omniscient here

marble kelpBOT Dec 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/bfd4a151cdd544859e19aa756f6fc9ca

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🤦idk why it doesnt work

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#Minecraft server properties
#Sun Dec 20 18:02:32 PST 2020
spawn-protection=16
generator-settings=
force-gamemode=false
allow-nether=true
gamemode=0
enable-query=false
player-idle-timeout=0
difficulty=1
spawn-monsters=true
op-permission-level=4
pvp=true
snooper-enabled=true
level-type=DEFAULT
hardcore=false
enable-command-block=true
max-players=20
network-compression-threshold=256
resource-pack-sha1=
max-world-size=29999984
server-port=25565
debug=false
server-ip=
spawn-npcs=true
allow-flight=false
level-name=world
view-distance=10
resource-pack=
spawn-animals=true
white-list=false
generate-structures=true
online-mode=false
max-build-height=256
level-seed=
prevent-proxy-connections=false
enable-rcon=false
motd=A Minecraft Server
``` heres the server properties of lobby

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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**** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use: bind
Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
Looks like already have a server running on the port you assigned

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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but i ran bungeecord?

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what do i do to fix

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Your bungeecord and servers all need different ports still

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:07 AM

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oh

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idk but imma make lobby's port 25566

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and uhc 25577

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will that work idk

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:08 AM

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If you make sure you bungeecord config has those ports and nothing else is using them it should work

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:09 AM

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HOWWW

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oh

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need to start my servers xd

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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That tends to help

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:11 AM

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unfortunately uhc doesnt work

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whyyyyy

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some1 help

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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You changed your bungeecord config.yml so the UHC server has the ip and :25577 as the port (or whatever port you used)? And you're connecting directly to the proxy, not the server itself?

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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i think

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what happen?

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OH I SEE

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you cannot connect to the server with direct

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you must do /server name

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Yes

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Connecting to the servers directly is bad, you shouldn't be able to even try - set up the firewall so only the proxy itself is exposed

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:18 AM

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wait

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why is fallback server not showing up in my config??

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Like if a server goes down, you want it to players get kicked to the lobby or something?

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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yes

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Need a plugin for that

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 2:45 AM

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tried it

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doesnt work

bold swan Dec 21, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Tried what? A plugin? Going to have to ask the plugin's support at that point, I can't help much there

vernal geode Dec 21, 2020, 3:02 AM

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yes

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plugin

spark shale Dec 21, 2020, 9:10 AM

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I have a modded server and I want to add it to my hub. I get issues with timeout even after configuring it to be longer. Is there any workarounds for this?

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Like disabling ip forwarding for specific servers?

royal hawk Dec 21, 2020, 9:22 AM

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@spark shale thats not supported. However, spongeforge has support for forwarding, so if you install that and configure it you can use forwarding like normal

spark shale Dec 21, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I already did

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but I get timeout errors

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even after configuring timeouts on both client and server

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and random disconnects

royal hawk Dec 21, 2020, 9:23 AM

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disable entity meta rewriting in the waterfall config, that might fix it. otherwise its hit or miss with forge mods and proxies

spark shale Dec 21, 2020, 9:26 AM

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ill try that

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weirdly enough earlier it did let me through once but idk

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sadly doesnt work

tulip grotto Dec 21, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Are dupes with portals patched?

marble kelpBOT Dec 21, 2020, 12:50 PM

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waterfall doesn't touch inventories in any capacity

wild trellis Dec 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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anyone have any clue how to fix this? I installed j8 cuz plebs apparently still dont want to upgrade so i wanted to test if everything works, but i cant get my proxy to boot up

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restarted several times

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nothing is already using the port or anything

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cant seem to find a host or something even tho i didnt even touch any config after it worked in j11

reef fulcrum Dec 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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bad java flags?

wild trellis Dec 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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in the startup script you mean?

reef fulcrum Dec 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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yes

wild trellis Dec 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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it worked before so

@echo off
:start
java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -agentlib:jdwp=transport=dt_socket,server=y,suspend=n,address=*:5006 -jar waterfall-1.16-388.jar
pause
cls
goto start

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seems fine to me

reef fulcrum Dec 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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bad jdwp flags

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I mean, it's jdwp screaming, the format of that argument changed at some point

wild trellis Dec 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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i see

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that explains why it works in j11 probably

magic pagoda Dec 21, 2020, 4:01 PM

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hi
there is a weird interaction on my water fall that it's online mode
i can't connect with offline mode
but when i connect it the spigot server don't use my real uuid and insted it's use the offline version of uuid
i test it with running a clean server
i test it on another account and still same
but when i change the spigot to online mode and connect directly to it the uuid it's okay

reef fulcrum Dec 21, 2020, 4:01 PM

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read the bungee install instructions

magic pagoda Dec 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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but it's clean
even the config.yml is new

reef fulcrum Dec 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Did you read the install instructions?

magic pagoda Dec 21, 2020, 4:05 PM

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im on it

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-installation/#post-installation this is the right one right ?

BungeeCord Installation | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

The home of Spigot a high performance, no lag customized CraftBukkit Minecraft server API, and BungeeCord, the cloud server proxy.

reef fulcrum Dec 21, 2020, 4:06 PM

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yes

magic pagoda Dec 21, 2020, 4:29 PM

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there is a usercache.json that save uuidis and when i delete it it's get fixed
idk why
thanks for your time zCat

tidal musk Dec 22, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Is FlameCord better than Waterfall ?

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 12:11 AM

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latest is stable, I've not heard that it's not

unreal stag Dec 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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@tidal musk FlameCord is hot garbage and should be avoided

tidal musk Dec 22, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Ok

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 1:25 AM

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your configuration file is bad

karmic canopy Dec 22, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Anyone have experience with Waterfall vs Velocity in terms of speed? I’m attempting to move our tiny setup to a network, so ~6 servers ranging from survival to mini games. Velocity seems to be better, but several plugins we want to use are only compatible with waterfall. I’m wondering if the speed increase is substantial enough to warrant the loss of those plugins.

still whale Dec 22, 2020, 1:42 AM

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When i swap servers or join on a new account sometimes i have to re log cause i cant talk in chat nor can i do any commands. Has anyone had this issue before?

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21.12 20:44:48 [Server] WARN Event ServerConnectEvent(player=Helqing, target=BungeeServerInfo(name=Factions, socketAddress=/142.44.135.67:25650, restricted=false), reason=COMMAND, request=net.md_5.bungee.api.ServerConnectRequest@20efd209, cancelled=false) took 260ms to process!

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 1:49 AM

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an event took too long to process, that's down to plugins

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Only real option to debug that stuff is to use a sampler

still whale Dec 22, 2020, 1:50 AM

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It still renders me as afk

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But i just cant type at all

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Before it was telling me my uuid was changed

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 1:51 AM

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UUID change would imply that you didn't configure IP forwarding properly

still whale Dec 22, 2020, 1:53 AM

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hmm

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Now there arent any errors

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Just simply lets me connect but cant talk or anything. shows me from others point of view as standing still

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 1:58 AM

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plugins?

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anything in the server logs?

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Are you using a hosting provider?

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using some form of panel?

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best guess is check your panel settings

still whale Dec 22, 2020, 2:07 AM

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https://gyazo.com/58d8ac04b40638df3f6b82c776f2fa8c
[02:04:24] [Server thread/INFO]: Helqing[/] logged in with entity id 5298 at ([OutpostLab]0.5187364882585531, 63.0, -9.302924941394853)

Gyazo

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I'm gonna go lie down, biggest thing I can suggest hel is to replicate without plugins™

worldly agate Dec 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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How much RAM does Waterfall need?

unreal stag Dec 22, 2020, 4:11 AM

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@still whale it is a Bungee plugin causing the issue

still whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Wym?

unreal stag Dec 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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You have a proxy plugin that is doing something very stupid

still whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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https://gyazo.com/7aae1565e6e7ee4e970bc501a4688a36

Gyazo

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All i got in there

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@unreal stag

still whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Can anyone help?

delicate phoenix Dec 22, 2020, 8:49 AM

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What is the issue? 🤔

covert grove Dec 22, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Quick question, I am trying to run a 1.8 base version network. Does the latest waterfall support such or would an older version be necessary?

delicate phoenix Dec 22, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Waterfall is 1.8-1.16, Tavertine is 1.7-1.16

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No need for an older version.

covert grove Dec 22, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Sick! I looked at the latest fork which states 1.16 so I was wondering

marble kelpBOT Dec 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

full spindle Dec 22, 2020, 4:26 PM

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does anyone know how to block the /bungee?

severe badger Dec 22, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Get a plugin that does that.

sullen trellis Dec 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/27789702db7f4cb69bde373f4594d5ae
When I connect to other servers from the lobby, it kicks the server what should I do

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My Waterfall settings are completely correct

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 5:40 PM

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.318

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.teams

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.team

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.g waterfall issue 318

marble kelpBOT Dec 22, 2020, 5:40 PM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/318-Waterfall-Dr-Huffman-TX-77336/161263549_zpid/

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 5:40 PM

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...

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https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/issues/318

GitHub

Proxy does not handle duplicate scoreboard teams across connections...

[23:25:54] [Netty Worker IO Thread #23/ERROR]: [/1.156.19.57:50127|Uber_Elite] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [LegendBender] - encountered exception java.lang.IllegalArgumentE...

tepid tinsel Dec 22, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Is editing Alert a thing? as in change the prefix/colours etc.

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 6:46 PM

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probs in the messages file

tepid tinsel Dec 22, 2020, 6:47 PM

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There is no messages file 😮 but did figure out &h removes it all to add custom, so that can work

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 6:47 PM

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it's in the jar, you'd need to copy it out to your server folder manually

tepid tinsel Dec 22, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Ohhh right got you.

sullen trellis Dec 22, 2020, 7:01 PM

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reef fulcrum https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/issues/318

I did not understand. so what should i do

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 7:03 PM

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as per the issue, you have a plugin using scoreboards

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You need to work out what plugin and shout at the plugin author and pray they'll fix it so that it doesn't crap itself behind bungee

sullen trellis Dec 22, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Are you saying it for the lobby or for the server trying to connect?

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 7:19 PM

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The server you joined has a plugin or something using the same team name as the one you just came from

tidal musk Dec 22, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Not able to join server: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/a538f8e42cdc46d2bca5c028be96a466

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 11:12 PM

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your config is bad

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empty priorities list?

tidal musk Dec 22, 2020, 11:15 PM

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reef fulcrum empty priorities list?

My priotiry lists is:

fallback
fallback
fallback

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So i should just remove all ?

reef fulcrum Dec 22, 2020, 11:16 PM

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don't ping

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that error suggests that that list is empty

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replicate without plugins

tidal musk Dec 22, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I joined now after i changed the list from:

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priorities:

fallback
fallback
fallback
to just:
priorities:
fallback

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But i still got this WARNING in proxy console log: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/9d8d4c7108054a2bb80d352c029311a3

tough island Dec 23, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Stupid question.. The servers are on the same network?

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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plugins listen to events

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go grab a sampler or start yanking plugins

tough island Dec 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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reef fulcrum plugins listen to events

Ah yeah, just read it again... BungeeChat.

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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it's the priority list now

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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yes

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you need a plugin to connect you to some other server

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I only know mine: https://github.com/Minebench/KickInfo/

GitHub

Minebench/KickInfo

Super simple plugin to display kickmessages in chat and as titles - Minebench/KickInfo

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well you don't need to... just press the download link

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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CI info is in the sidebar

atomic trout Dec 23, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Waterfall is only displaying playercount for default server? How do I get it to show the playercount for all servers?

mild rover Dec 23, 2020, 3:46 PM

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dont force the default server

atomic trout Dec 23, 2020, 3:46 PM

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But I want to connect people to my lobby not the server they were last on

mild rover Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 PM

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write a plugin or find one to do it

atomic trout Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 PM

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wow ok to velocity i go

mild rover Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 PM

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it takes like 5 seconds to do either

atomic trout Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 PM

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im not putting another plugin on my lobby for somthing that velocity does by defualt

hot escarp Dec 23, 2020, 3:48 PM

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atomic trout Waterfall is only displaying playercount for default server? How do I get it to ...

turn off "ping_passthrough" in config.yml

atomic trout Dec 23, 2020, 3:49 PM

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hot escarp turn off "ping_passthrough" in config.yml

Will that break any plugins?

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Or stop players ips from going through to the server?

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 3:49 PM

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no

atomic trout Dec 23, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Ok thanks

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Will there be any way for me to "encode" the IP address of any connecting player?

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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I mean, the entire stack expects that the IP address is a.. well, IP address

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So, if you wanna modify the proxy/server to break that assumption, yes

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I would say that was a poor choice of words if anything. What do you specifically want to do with the ips?

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:14 PM

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All I want is to make sure that if any player gets connected to a server (from the proxy) that the IP address of the player will be something else, but stays the same every time. I don't care what I will have to do but there should be a way right? If the real IP is exposed to the proxy that is fine.

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Basically, I'm not too sure how well this is covered in the API, I have doubts that it is, only thing you could do is apply some maths over the IP address and scramble the digits

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Yes that is exactly what I want and tried to do, but I don't think the API provides any way to change the IP address.

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:16 PM

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as I said, it's not really in the bounds of the API

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:18 PM

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wait

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I am trying to modify the source code of Waterfall, but it is really hard for me since I don't even know the basics of servers.

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:18 PM

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the ip is always the proxy ip?

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:18 PM

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There is a option for that in the config

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:18 PM

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did you enable info forwarding?

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Yes, and I want that if I want to IP ban someone.

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:19 PM

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It's sent in the handshake packet, forget what bungee calls it exactly

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Do bans on the proxy

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:21 PM

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is there by default a way to ban on the proxy?

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:22 PM

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No, you need a plugin for that. LiteBans, AdvancedBans and BungeeBan are some I used in the past.

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I would also recommend you use LuckPerms on the proxy to set up permissions rather than using the config.yml to do so

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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i did

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doing it in the config is a nightmare

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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yes, thats why so many people get it wrong all the time

zenith willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:26 PM

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but then i am still wondering how minehut handles ip bans on player servers

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:27 PM

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how strange

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I've been wondering this exact thing too recently

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one of the items I'm trying to address for my community-administrated serbur

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:27 PM

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NDA says I cant say much. They have their own load and server balancing system

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:29 PM

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no, anonymizing IP addresses

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for my case, it's so plugins can't get it

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Do your servers neeeeeddd the IP of clients?

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I'm fine with it being all one IP too

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I don't wanna setup a proxy, but it looks like that's the only way to do it?

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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just modify the proxy and set the IP address it sends to 1.2.3.4

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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well the plugins can still get it from the active connection then

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Well, if you want bans to work, you need something capable of understanding MC somewhere between the backend and the web

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Ive seen that too

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I don't care about bans

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meme serbur

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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use a tunnel

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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or an NAT bridge

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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any ez tunnels 2 setup out there?

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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if you want to anonymize everything

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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or an what?

reef fulcrum Dec 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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NAT, private/public network

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:32 PM

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z's bot could send edits if he wanted to

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hmm, wouldn't be a typical NAT then since it still forwards that info by default unless I'm thinking of something else

royal hawk Dec 23, 2020, 7:34 PM

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itd be a reverse-NAT, a origin to destination one

marble kelpBOT Dec 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

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hmm. anonymizing would be more preferable for the custom server list ping stuff, now figuring out how to setup this stuff is gonna b interestin

candid estuary Dec 24, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Can someone help me here ??

severe badger Dec 24, 2020, 9:00 PM

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No

candid estuary Dec 24, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Wait why ?

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Why you are rude ?

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@severe badger

reef fulcrum Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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.dontask

marble kelpBOT Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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https://www.dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

severe badger Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Literally what Michael told ya lol

vernal geode Dec 24, 2020, 9:36 PM

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i found something called fall_back server in the config

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i set it to my lobby

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it wont connect me to the lobby server if the server im on is down

reef fulcrum Dec 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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fall back was removed years ago, use the priority list

vernal geode Dec 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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yeah i used that

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still nothing

reef fulcrum Dec 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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if you mean it doesn't move you when the server dies and you're on it, you'd need a plugin for that

vernal geode Dec 24, 2020, 9:38 PM

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ohh

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btw how do i make a citizen when you right click it it brings you to a server

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bc the plugin im using deletes them when server refreshes

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wait how do you allow server restart?

reef fulcrum Dec 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Can't have players in a server which is off'ing itself, it's down to either just kicking players or having some way to keep their connections safe, e.g. a limbo server

vernal geode Dec 24, 2020, 9:54 PM

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oh yeah i forgot

tough island Dec 25, 2020, 3:45 AM

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See the way I do it if I'm restarting a server is /send current [server]

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If you can run commands with your plugin you could send that player to another server.

vestal ridge Dec 25, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Does Travertine support 1.7.2?

tidal musk Dec 25, 2020, 11:51 AM

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vestal ridge Does Travertine support 1.7.2?

Why 1.7.2

delicate phoenix Dec 25, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Yes

tidal musk Dec 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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hey

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help me?

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Travertine prevent exploit? my server is being attacked

reef fulcrum Dec 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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vs bungee, yes, but, software exposed to the internet has to process requests from the internet

tidal musk Dec 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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ok

brittle basin Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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i need help ...

tidal musk Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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ok

brittle basin Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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why do i keep getting ThreadedAnvilChunkStorage (hub1): All chunks are saved in my console

reef fulcrum Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Wrong channel

brittle basin Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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O

reef fulcrum Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Something saved the world

brittle basin Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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h

tidal musk Dec 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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most likely because chunks are saving?

brittle basin Dec 25, 2020, 9:56 PM

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oh but every 3 seconds

tidal musk Dec 25, 2020, 9:56 PM

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#paper-help

austere dagger Dec 26, 2020, 8:41 AM

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I'm guessing there's no way to update a waterfall/bungee plugin without restarting the whole network and kicking everyone?

agile sigil Dec 26, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Hey,
How to fix WorldEdit CUI, it work only on the default server !

agile sigil Dec 26, 2020, 10:54 AM

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austere dagger I'm guessing there's no way to update a waterfall/bungee plugin without restarti...

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bungeepluginmanager.7288/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

BungeePluginManager

delicate phoenix Dec 26, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Why use a plugin manager? There's a reason to restart it when you do something

delicate phoenix Dec 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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agile sigil Hey, How to fix WorldEdit CUI, it work only on the default server !

Check their support please, how would we know lul

tidal musk Dec 26, 2020, 3:36 PM

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ip_forward: true is set, yet it seems like the UUID isn't being sent to the server. Any idea why?

reef fulcrum Dec 26, 2020, 3:37 PM

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did you enable bungee mode on the servers?

tidal musk Dec 26, 2020, 3:37 PM

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ah, thanks

orchid plover Dec 26, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Does anyone know if it's possible to share scoreboard data between servers in a network? Not sure if this the correct place to ask this.

mystic sky Dec 26, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Hey! I have made a new lobby for my network but for some reason when someone joins the server the lobby seems to not accept connections displaying the following "io.netty.channel.ConnectionsTimeoutException" any ideas on why?

worn thunder Dec 26, 2020, 8:00 PM

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that usually indicates that the proxy can not reach the lobby. make sure its online, make sure the port/address is correct and that there are no firewall rules etc. blocking the connection

worn thunder Dec 26, 2020, 8:01 PM

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orchid plover Does anyone know if it's possible to share scoreboard data between servers in a ...

It certainly is possible but I don't think there is any scoreboard plugin doing that currently.
Also, it probably makes more sense to share the data the scoreboard displays, not the scoreboard itself

reef fulcrum Dec 26, 2020, 8:01 PM

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the proxy has a scoreboard API

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So, ideally, do it on the proxy

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if you can't do it on the proxy, there is a heavy level of "good luck", given how bungee poops itself when two servers share scoreboard team names, etc

mystic sky Dec 26, 2020, 8:21 PM

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thanks

agile sigil Dec 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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delicate phoenix Check their support please, how would we know lul

I saw that the bug was already in Bungee long ago : https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/364

GitHub

WorldEdit CUI broken (again/still) · Issue #364 · SpigotMC/BungeeCo...

When joining a hub/lobby server that uses Bungecoord WECUI works fine, but upon joining servers from the hub/lobby WECUI stops working. Was searching around and found an old issue: #126 It appears ...

desert compass Dec 26, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Hey guys I m a real noob here, may I ask a stupid quedtion? What is the actual difference between waterfall and Bungeecord tho... I searched a lot of answers on the internet but not mentioneding how difficult it would be to run a waterfall server😭

reef fulcrum Dec 26, 2020, 10:41 PM

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it's a fork of bungee, it's basically just bungee with our improvements

desert compass Dec 26, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Oh that would be perfect! Can I still use bungee plugins on Waterfall?

reef fulcrum Dec 26, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Yes

desert compass Dec 26, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Thank you so much!

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👍

desert compass Dec 26, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Hey guys may I ask what does this mean...? First time using WaterFall...

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barren wind Dec 27, 2020, 1:07 PM

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If I am in my survival server and I disconnect is there a way when I reconnect to always put me in the lobby server?

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reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 1:08 PM

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There is an open issue for that error on the tracker

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for sending people to the default server, there is an option in config.yml to force the default server

barren wind Dec 27, 2020, 1:10 PM

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thank you very much

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 1:54 PM

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https://srcb.in/pLyEiRERYp

what is that

reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Exception in thread "main" java.io.FileNotFoundException: modules.yml (Permission denied)

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Your file perms are busted

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 1:57 PM

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umm

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what should I do

severe badger Dec 27, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Fix 'em

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 1:58 PM

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very sensible

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I couldn't think about it

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thank you very much

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you saved the day

reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 1:58 PM

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That's outside of the realms of paper support, that's more down to managing the OS you're using

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 1:58 PM

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yeah I was thinking about that

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okay

reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 1:58 PM

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You need to make sure that the user which the server is running as has access to the files

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 2:17 PM

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am I need to do something else?

reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 2:20 PM

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no, you just need to fix the file perms

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 6:04 PM

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disconnected with: Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again la
ter: io.netty.channel.ConnectTimeoutException

sorry but why am I getting that error?

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it was working in my PC

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I have changed the IP addresses, I'm using Google Cloud for now

reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Hard to say, all we know is that the proxy tried to open a connection to somewhere and failed

tidal musk Dec 27, 2020, 6:05 PM

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oh no, it's artwart

reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 6:05 PM

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that's generally on network configuration, etc

tidal musk Dec 27, 2020, 6:05 PM

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flash backs

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 6:05 PM

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lol jerry

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why am I blocked you

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 6:06 PM

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reef fulcrum that's generally on network configuration, etc

umm okay, I will try something else

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 8:16 PM

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https://srcb.in/ellG5r2nyc

so what is this

reef fulcrum Dec 27, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Wrong channel

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Outdated server software does not run on modern versions of java

nimble zenith Dec 27, 2020, 8:18 PM

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oh sorry yes wrong channel

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ok

zinc raven Dec 27, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Someone just back-doored my server

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I have bungeeguard