A modification to the forge loader OR a heavily complicated mod. Either will do. I have given up on working without either
#waterfall-help
reef fulcrum
I mean, our hopes was that forge would add that, because otherwise it basically screws the entire thing
I guess having a mod that lets you do that is better than nothing
royal hawk
I will PR that because it doesn’t break logic
reef fulcrum
but, meh
reef fulcrum
Well, my hopes was to get forge to just add a reconnect packet
royal hawk
That doesn’t solve the problem
reef fulcrum
reconnect packet + a token
royal hawk
They’re keen on not breaking normal specifications
reef fulcrum
You still have to deal with stuff on the proxy, but it helps deal with a lot of the mod issues, etc
Can easily be done with a plugin message
This is something we literally spoke about and they seemingly forgot it all
The idea was that instead of tryna coax horrific states and dealing with mods not being able to "reset" their state properly, it would basically serve as a new connection to the proxy
royal hawk
Well take it as you may. I want set this down before them as a done-deal. I don’t want to work around this again time and time again
Saying I want an approach that works. Wether they’re willing to work with it or a modification of it is up to them then
But I want to have something in hand before I come knocking
half carbon
so I have a question: i have 3 servers in both the EU and US, but I have a bungeecord in each. How can I make parties invitations go to players in different regions?
party is basically just a series of commands into 1 not rlly a plugin
marble kelpBOT
just make them both use the same database or something?
or manually sync it between the instances e.g. via pubsub messenging
half carbon
how do i do that?
marble kelpBOT
codes and algorithms
bold parcel
pubsub 
random oriole
When updating to the latest build of WaterFall, I can't type or execute commands into the console.
random oriole
Like it says it's ready, but I can't ping it or execute any console commands.
reef fulcrum
Typical advice is generally replicate without plugins, etc
Without much info, we can't really say
half carbon
rip pubsub is gonna be hard to get working but maybe
tidal musk
no
green palm
on such a task? I wonder what else you would give up at
green palm
enable compression if your database driver supports it
but really, there's not much else you can do to help that besides work around the problem
reef fulcrum
the ping was like 200ms
green palm
what that means is you need to avoid network round trips
reef fulcrum
You're crossing the transatlantic...
That on its own garauntees you're easily gonna add like 90ms on by default, on the better routes...
still citrus
guaigaruantes
green palm
that was completely unnecessary
reef fulcrum
In my defence, if the auto correct worked better, I wouldn't look so bad on english
still citrus
it has probably learned your spelling for it because you misspell it so regularly and similarly each time
and would now autocorrect the correct spelling for your bork spelling
green palm
Autocorrect makes your spelling worse
half carbon
agreed
half carbon
is there a version of aikars flags for waterfall?
still citrus
see pins
half carbon
when i try to start waterfall this happens: Error: Could not find or load main class java Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java
i mean that is literally the entire log
still citrus
your startup script is wrong
reef fulcrum
your args are busted, you have "java" in there twice, apparently
still citrus
if you are using some hosting panel like pterodactyl, don't include java in the startup params field
half carbon
oh ok thx
inner wagon
So players are able to get in the server, but they apparently 'lagging' and then timing out after 10 seconds. they can see chat and other players movement normally, but they themselves are lagging and cant move/talk
I got this on the timed out error a player got: https://pastebin.com/qz1wdH0q
inner wagon
??
inner wagon
its 1.16.4 (also tried 1.16.3) waterfall
not using forge/fabric
it happens on all clients
and only for some players not everyone
this specific player tried 1.8.8 lunar client, vanilla 1.16.3 client
royal hawk
@inner wagon first of all, forge 1.13 and newer is not compatible with any kind of proxy right now so don’t use it
Secondly; fabric can produce these errors; you can disable entity meta rewriting to maybe prevent these errors. They happen when entity data that doesn’t fit the vanilla minecraft data scheme is relayed
^ Could be mods or faulty plugins in that case
royal hawk
Do you use a plugin that modifies mobs? Like a stacking plugin; a crate or NPC plugin or the like?
royal hawk
Suspect is anything that uses ProtocolLib
royal hawk
@inner wagon would you mind giving me a list of the plugins on your proxy?
@ me when you reply, am tabbed out
inner wagon
EasyBungeeWait
CenterMOTD
LuckPerms
NuVotifier
MineSecure
Maintenance
SchematicaPlugin
SecuredNetwork
SkinsRestorer
@royal hawk
royal hawk
With the exception of NuVotifier and LuckPerms, try to replicate it without the other plugins
inner wagon
cant replicate the error, but the timeout bug is still there
Also what's 'always_handle_packets: true' in the config?
reef fulcrum
Not a thing anymore afaik
half carbon
wait I am a bit confused. A few weeks ago I saw paper give their 1.12 version the asynchronous chunks feature. Did other versions also get this?
like 1.8.8?
marble kelpBOT
they did not? https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commits/ver/1.12.2
also wrong channel?
if anything it has been there from whenever it was created, not since a few weeks ago
royal hawk
Precisely
muted olive
Weird gonna try with IP instead of dns
DNS works for other services
Doesn't work with IP either checked port forwarding all good weird
Time to ping
Port seems closed but shouldnt ill sort that
muted olive
Gonna try with bungee off
reef fulcrum
Your proxy is having issues connecting to the actual server
generally means network misconfiguration or the servers are offline, etc
muted olive
So weird cant work out whats wrong
Checked those things
can ping through
ports are open
reef fulcrum
Are you using shared hosting or something?
The ports for a backend server shouldn't be visible to the public
if you're hosting on a dedi or local machine and tryna use the public IP address, DON'T
tawny saffron
The permissions in the bungeecord config arent working, do i need to set them up elsewhere?
reef fulcrum
did you install a permission plugin?
tawny saffron
not for bungee/waterfall
tawny saffron
@reef fulcrum
marble kelpBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
reef fulcrum
Well, what's not working?
reef fulcrum
Well, do you have the default group?
There is no inheritence in bungees built in perm system
reef fulcrum
default only applies if you have no groups assigned, or, have it defined for your group
half carbon
i need a good free bungeecord party plugin until i generate enough profit to buy a premium one
any reccomendations?
ok nvm found one
when i start my bungeecord it just hogs 172 mb for no reason
there arent even players on
and i only have 2 plugins: luckperms and party and friends
green palm
The JVM uses the memory you allocate to it. If it needs more memory within what it has been allocated, it triggers a garbage collection. If that fails to free up sufficient space, it runs out of memory.
If on the contrary the runtime does not need more memory, it may or may not return memory to the OS.
astral lantern
Quick question, what version is waterfall on, like 1.16.4, ect?
marble kelpBOT
1.8-latest
half carbon
ok when i try to connect to my server thru waterfall this happens: kicked whilst connecting to lobby: You are already connected to this proxy!
half carbon
ok i think it was because it was offline mode. When I try to connect it says the server is online mode. And no I am not using a cracked client
reef fulcrum
inb4 connecting the proxy to itself
half carbon
ok thx prob a config error
mental charm
Just me or is 1.16.4 seems a little heavier (262)
terse locust
hello i wanna do my network with waterfall but i have to choice between 2 dedicated servers which i dont know who is better Intel Xeon-E 2136 - 6c/ 12t - 3.3GHz/ 4.5GHz or i7 7700k both with 32 ram and nvme? someone that knows about dedicated server can give me their advice of choice, both cost the same
mint terrace
proper prawn
when choosing the cpu, look at single thread performance
reef fulcrum
CPU clock is irrelevant unless you're comparing same chip, basically
.g megahertz myth
marble kelpBOT
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tidal musk
Hello, I've a Waterfall Network with servers in different Minecraft versions.
When I try to connect to a server with incorrect version the server reconnects me instead of showing me the error: "Outdated client! Please use 1.16 ... "
How Can I fix that?
severe badger
You will need something like ViaVersion to allow older clients to join newer servers
tidal musk
I have that but there are servers for I want only one version
severe badger
Then setup ViaVersion properly
tidal musk
I have only protocol Support in the Lobby
severe badger
That is utterly irrelevant to what I told you
tidal musk
The problem is that I want to show an error when the player try to join the server with a bad version, not let them join, or get reconnected to the server.
severe badger
Then setup ViaVersion properly
and change the message to something else
You can tell it which protocols versions you want to let in and which not
tidal musk
Ok, I gonna try
marble kelpBOT
🌮
blissful plaza
I can easily connect to every version until 1.16. However, 1.16 gives me connection throttle (no visible error on logs). I am using 1.16 travertine with via-version 3.2.0. Could anyone help me please?
hidden river
How do you connect latest snapshot 20W45A clients to Waterfall? Use ViaVersion, etc or is that not possible yet?
Using Waterfall, via on each server andFabricProxy on a 20W45A server, however most of our servers are 1.16.3 now including the lobby where you first connect.
worldly igloo
How do i start using waterfall? I am not very server wise so bare with me
all im basically trying to do is make a hub server that connects to many other servers
and the hub server has portals that you walk into and they teleport you to the other server you want to go to
tropic yacht
You can download waterfall and start it like a regular Minecraft server
it acts as a proxy, so you connect all of your minecraft servers to it
SmallSansSerif: I don't think that is possible yet
hidden river
thanks
olive skiff
Im trying to make bungee works on ubuntu but it has many error that saying Protocol not available https://pastebin.com/qT9Vn4N7
reef fulcrum
best guess is disable the netty dns stuff in waterfall.yml
But, I got no idea wtf is up with your thing
reef fulcrum
that's in the realms of a weird DNS setup on your machine
olive skiff
also throttling:
tab_complete: -1 doesnt work
reef fulcrum
that'd disabled on modern versions of mc
olive skiff
i disabled on spigot servers
but i disabled bungee and it stills shows bungee plugins
reef fulcrum
nothing to do with that
It's a throttle, not a system for hiding commands
the server sends the command def to the client, we can only throttle tab completion packets, but, we can't block the actual command completion with that
Scream at plugin owners to fix their perms
olive skiff
ok
reef fulcrum
In the meantime, I have a plugin on the waterfall section which can help with that
reef fulcrum
Go look at the forums
reef fulcrum
see the one pinned in #paper-help
olive skiff
ok tysm for ur support
u the best
ok i have some problem with
#!/bin/bash
while true
do
java -jar paperclip.jar
echo "restarting in 10"
sleep 10
done
run.bat: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token done' run.bat: line 7: done'
proper prawn
maybe if you can learn how to copy-paste you wont have issues with typing random characters at the end
slow ermine
can someone send me the very original config of bungeecord yml?
marble kelpBOT
just delete it and restart?
slow ermine
one question,will bungeecord affect ping?like the setting tweak inside the yml,will that affect ping of a user?
reef fulcrum
You're adding something which needs to process data in the middle of a connection
There is 0 way for that to not have a hit on performance in some capacity, just, it's generally not noticable outside of general networking/plugin factors
reef fulcrum
.g bungeecord configuration
reef fulcrum
.g bungeecord configuration
marble kelpBOT
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using unbuntu for a server
runs
reef fulcrum
unbuntu
marble kelpBOT
I have big fingers ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tidal musk
not having matching keys
knotty crane
Any good guides to setup up multiple bungeecord proxy's?
tropic yacht
RedisBungee is probably your way to go, but I've never used it: https://github.com/minecrafter/RedisBungee
It uses a Redis server to synchronize data between proxies. Most often you won't need multiple proxies, only for thousands of players minimum. The idea of it is that you would have multiple proxies connected to the same backend servers.
green palm
On the contrary, RedisBungee is no longer maintained
obsidian cape
hi
a question about security
a guy hacked my bungee using bungee channel by a plugin (like comandforward, changeskin)
and he was able to run comands from console
i would know if it was possible for waterfall to fix this isue by accepting packet only ip from servers and not clients
green palm
Use a firewall
obsidian cape
it don't fix the issue lol
green palm
Or fix your plugins
obsidian cape
it was a player connected
obsidian cape
marble kelpBOT
just install plugins that properly handle that...
if a plugin allows plugin messages from wrong sources then that's a big issue lol
I mean you have a point if you talk about malicious servers in your network sending the requests (and the plugin only using the sender type to auth the request, not the server address/name or password)
I've written this plugin for that case: https://github.com/Phoenix616/BlockPluginMessages ;D (but it wont stop clients from sending messages, only untrusted servers)
severe badger
Is there a(n) (edge) scenario you don't have a plugin for? 👀
marble kelpBOT
I mean apparently not his scenario lol
severe badger
Just wondering lol
marble kelpBOT
but I have over 100 minecraft related projects so...
severe badger
ic, 99 repos
marble kelpBOT
severe badger
give him time, phoenix will add more edge case plugin repos
yeah
as long as they are not edg_y_
severe badger
Probably, but I'm not the creative mind
zinc sapphire
maybe phoenix will add a repo for coming up with puns
severe badger
PunGenerator
severe badger
true
obsidian cape
phoenix616 so that don't help with my issue? i think more is a client side
than server
marble kelpBOT
yes, your plugin isn't blocking messages from the client or not checking if the message was sent by a server
sly nebula
Hello! :D
Is it somehow possible to remove the "Waterfall" from the invalid-version-tag in the serverlist?
While I do not specifically want to hide the fact that I'm using Waterfall, as it is an awesome fork which deserves credits, I just think it looks ugly in the serverlist.
severe badger
Use something like Via* to let older clients join
sly nebula
Thank you for your reply, but unfortunately thats not what I want.
severe badger
What else would you tell the client then?
sly nebula
Just "1.16.3" with the cross without the text "Waterfall"
severe badger
You can get a rid of the brand name if you want, not sure which purpose that would serve
sly nebula
It just looks a bit cleaner, imo.
Maybe I'm just blind, but I couldn't find an option in the waterfall.yml or the config.yml
severe badger
There is none
sly nebula
Is this hardcoded?
severe badger
Yes
sly nebula
Do I assume correct that it refers to the getName method inside the BungeeCord main class?
https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/blob/9c078b78c32863c59765e56d7e5164d0762ac563/proxy/src/main/java/net/md_5/bungee/BungeeCord.java#L529
severe badger
Just browse the source and search what you are looking for
sly nebula
I've just looked at the patch files
severe badger
👍
sly nebula
Can't find it for now or at least I'm not sure if it's using what I think it is. I'll take a look in it at a later point. Thank you for your help! :)
vast rose
Hey there! So I'm pretty new to servers and I am looking to use paper for my server, but I'm not sure about how waterfall is used. Can someone point me to where I can look to get started?
reef fulcrum
Waterfall is a proxy for allowing switching between multiple servers, use the bungeecord install guide, but, really, if this is your first server, get used to managing a single server before going to manage a dozen
vast rose
I've been managing a single server for a while but I just havent looked into anything besides normal spigot servers
The main reason I want to get into waterfall is to have multiple worlds with different plugins cause I know that multiverse as a plugin has different worlds but not necessarily different inventories / plugins
That being said there would only be small differences in the plugins between servers and I didn't realize multiverse had a separate inventory plugin so maybe that would just be the better option
last reef
reef fulcrum
Please don't mention people, nor do I understand why you're in this channel
merry root
Hey, there is a new Way to hack a server.
It uses an ipspoof and an script to imitate a fake player with same uuid to execute a command. Can someone explain more about this?
reef fulcrum
I refuse to watch a video
merry root
It fakes the handshake between the spigot and the bungee
reef fulcrum
General gist is that 99.99% of hacks are down to blatent misconfiguration of the backend servers, leaving them exposed to the public
So, yea, blatent misconfig
green palm
blatant
merry root
It would be nice, if some one can analyse this. I think this video is a fake!
green palm
Just firewall your backend servers
merry root
Yea with firewall it must be secure
But the creator let the server think the connection come from a allowed ip. The video make no sense for me because a firewall blocks the connection.
marble kelpBOT
that would require people to properly configure their shit
reef fulcrum
It's not fake
There is 0 security between the proxy and the servers with bungeecord
if your firewall is setup properly to not allow external connections, then you're not at risk from that stuff
merry root
My firewall allow external connections, but not to the spigot ports
I feel completely stupid right now to have to show you guys this garbage. But I would like to be certain.
marble kelpBOT
as far as I can tell the video claims that he is doing it by facking the tcp origin address to match the bungee's address
but of course he wont straight up say how he does it... gotta love people spreading fud
merry root
I agree is simple to make fear
marble kelpBOT
the real question is if commonly used firewalls like iptables are fooled by this lol
merry root
I don't think that you can forward a fake connection and get through a firewall.
merry root
I don't think that you can forward a fake connection and get through a firewall.
merry root
Yea so it is simple shit video. The server in the video does not even have a firewall setup..
marble kelpBOT
well he claims in the video that he doesn't need to get the packets back
merry root
Yea he simple sends to the spigot
But a firewill detects fake ip
And all my ports are closed througt ufw
marble kelpBOT
the only thing he probably bypasses with this is the bungeecord ip setting in the spigot.yml
which is pretty known to not be secure lol
reef fulcrum
Some of the shit protection plugins are also vulnerable to stuff like that iirc
Really, firewall &/ bungeeguard, move on
marble kelpBOT
oh right, the whole ipwhitelist shit
merry root
Ok so iam save with closed ports througt ufw?
reef fulcrum
yes.
merry root
Ok thank you all for your explanation and sorry for sending this video. But due to my tiny knowledge in topic networking i will go save. Thanks to all
tidal musk
Hey guys, Iam getting this error to my console, can anyone please look at it? https://paste.hostify.cz/?8bb8216a337e1344#3cuMSjSojCZUyMznWow2NXcbB6Mz6Kr6hcVpJXdeC1WF
green palm
me.lackosk.pb.events.ServerPingListener
still citrus
never trust packages starting with me
green palm
why?
still citrus
reasons
still citrus
remove the plugin that listener is in i guess
tidal musk
I wrote to the developer and he has repaired it 🙂
tidal musk
Hey guys are there any Placeholders for Waterfall? I can not find any 😦
still citrus
same as for bungee probably
tidal musk
it does not work
knotty crane
Can I remove " forced_hosts:
pvp.md-5.net: pvp" from the config? will I hurt anything?
severe badger
It's an example how to use it
knotty crane
Oh
tawdry wind
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bungeeguard.79601/
is this the best option for securing my waterfall server? i can't use firewalls because im going to be using a shared host
marble kelpBOT
if you can't use firewalls then yes
tawdry wind
alright thanks
ripe prism
Hello
I'm trying to setup a hub server that links to my other servers
and I was told water fall is what I should do since I'm running a modded server (with sponge-forge obviously.)
so I have waterfall installed in my server
and was wondering where I should go from here to link my servers together
reef fulcrum
mod support can be shaky because mods generally don't take kindly to the proxy
But, you shove all the servers in the servers section
The bungeecord install guide goes over it
reef fulcrum
waterfall is a fork of bungeecord with varying changes, such as making the chance mods work better
reef fulcrum
yup
reef fulcrum
No, because you have forge
reef fulcrum
Spigot is the server software
You already have forge for the server software, you just need spongeforge so it understands the info that bungee forwards
deep sleet
Are the Aikar flags also good for waterfall?
reef fulcrum
see the pins
deep sleet
ah 😄
split drum
Any good resources for setting up waterfall
marble kelpBOT
.g spigotmc wiki bungeecord installation
(phoenix616) https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-installation/ -- BungeeCord Installation | SpigotMC - High Performance...: "Aug 10, 2020 ... Installing BungeeCord on Linux(top) · 1. As a prerequisite, install Java 7 or above if you don't have it already [Ubuntu, CentOS]. ·..."
ripe prism
hi its me stupid again
i was wondering if someone has a tutorial on how to make a lobby server using waterfall
so i can just follow the steps rather than hoping that i did it right from the bungee cord spigot tutorials
severe badger
Any bungeecord guide which is not out of date will do it
ripe prism
yea but the ones i keep finding keep trying to do it with spigot
and im not exactly sure which steps to skip and which steps to follow
severe badger
Doesn't matter
ripe prism
?
i have a sponge forge server
wouldnt it crash if I had spigot and sponge in this server
severe badger
Doesn't hurt it either
ripe prism
so just follow all the steps including the spigot stuff?
severe badger
You don't have spigot and forge "in a server". They are separate servers.
Anything else is either unsupported or doesn't make sense
ripe prism
ok so this is what im trying to do
severe badger
gl then
ripe prism
I'm making a modded server network
severe badger
Solutions like that are not supported
severe badger
You can have a forge server and a whatnot server behind a proxy. But you cannot have a forge server in a bukkit server.
grim umbra
Hello, so when I do /server <servername> nothing shows up. However, doing /server <serverIAmOn> works, just says "You are already connected to this server!". doing /server blahblahblah also works, saying "The specified server does not exist". Also, the commands don't show up in console (unlike other commands where it says dkim19375 issued server command: /command
Please ping me if anyone responds! This has been an issue for multiple days now
Plugins on Lobby: AdvancedBan, AdvancedBanAutoBan, AdvancedBanSigns, AsyncWorldEdit, AutoRespawnPlus, BroadcastXS, BungeeConsoleChat, BungeeGuard, BuycraftX, ChatControl, ChatFilter, ChatInjector, Citizens, CleanroomGenerator, ClearLag, ColorCodes, CommandItems, CommandNPC, CoreProtect, CustomCommands, CustomWhitelistMessage, DeluxeCommands, DeluxeMenus, DiscordCommand, Essentials, EssentialsChat, EssentialsGeoIP, EssentialsSpawn, ExploitFixer, GCoreLegacy, HamsterAPI, Help, HolographicDisplays, HolographicExtension, HolographicPlaceholders, IllegalStack, ItemID, LagAssist, LevelPoints, LibsDisguises, LuckPerms, MagicItems, MaSuiteCore, MaSuitePortals, MaSuiteTeleports, Multiverse-Core, Multiverse-NetherPortals, Multiverse-SignPortals, OldCombatMechanics, OpenInv, PacketListenerApi, PlaceholderAPI, PlayerInfo, PlayerPoints, PlugMan, ProtocolLib, ProtocolPerWorld, PunishGUI, ServerListPlus, ServerSelectorX, StaffChatPlus, SuperVanish, TAB, TCPShield, TitleManager, UltimateStacker, UltimateStatistics, UltraCosmetics, Vault, VentureChat, ViaBackwards, ViaRewind, ViaRewind-Legacy-Support, ViaRewindPotions, ViaVersion, Votifier, WG-GUI, WorldBorder, WorldEdit, WorldGuard, WorldGuardExtraFlags
the /server commands don't show up in console because they never really reach the server
they're processed by the proxy
not by the backend server
which is why you can't /sudo someone to run /server
as for why it isn't working, dunno
look at the proxy console and see if that has any information
winged ruin
everytime someone joins my server with 1.16.4 it causes the proxy to hardlock and this is the only error i can get
bad packet ID, are mods in use!? Did not read all bytes from packet class net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.StatusRequest 0 Protocol STATUS Direction TO_SERVER
tidal musk
is it possible to open one of the linked servers to allow backend access in offline mode
while the server is in online mode
i try to connect to one of the linked servers and it says "if you wish to use IP forwarding please enable it in your bungeecord config as well!"
reef fulcrum
That packet should always be 0 sized, something on your server is mangling packets, lwccb
epearl, no
winged ruin
serverlistplus im guessing its the ping event packet i think it manages i dont have viaver on proxy
reef fulcrum
same setting
robust karma
seeking assistance with waterfall....
im having the following issue....
i have a bungee, hub, skyblock and slimefun servers....
everything works fine excepts when any player teleports or does /spawn "randomly" on SlimeFun server, it kicks them for "fallback" server bungeecord problems..... Ive been racking my brain at this all day and have yet to figure this one out
updated protocollib to latest version. using cmi. also on 1.16.3 with viaversion
sharp flare
Is there actually a easy solution, if a player switches the server (via server or an alias) that you could always send him to a defined world. Without extra plugin and stuff?
reef fulcrum
something needs to do the logic to know where to send them somewhere
sharp flare
So nothing build in, plugin only right
reef fulcrum
yup
sharp flare
thx
quick jolt
anyone know what is this bullshit?:O 45 players on server and others are unable to join lol disabled/unloaded bungeeguard and protocol lib through the plugman and nothing changed xD lobby and server both on 1.16.4 paper with Bungee WaterFall 1.XX
Build 381, development
reef fulcrum
check your server logs
quick jolt
[18:31:54] [Server thread/INFO]: JustOwny[/78.102.11.1:] logged in with entity id 6413478 at ([spawnik]19.171801930859665, 28.0, 18.442640441855843)
[18:31:55] [Server thread/INFO]: JustOwny lost connection: Disconnected
[18:31:55] [Server thread/INFO]: [FastLogin] No on-going login session for player: CraftPlayer{name=JustOwny} with ID 78.102.11.1:
disabled fast login as well
using plugman, and unloaded..nothing changed
reef fulcrum
something closed the connection or kicked them intentionally
I mean, you have plugins like SkinsRestorer and tab which are known to create odd issues
without useful logs, can't say
Is there anything in the proxy logs?
reef fulcrum
.paste
marble kelpBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
quick jolt
.paste
marble kelpBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
reef fulcrum
Checking logs is literally the first thing you do
quick jolt
I didn't realize to check also bungee log
reef fulcrum
quick jolt
How do I change scoreboard names? I don't using scoreboard pl, and default as well, only using TAB (would be the issue) Or it is something with basic command /scoreboard where I'm able to change the name?
reef fulcrum
depends on what created it
nor is there a way to rename scoreboards, they'd need to be re-created
(outside of modifying the files, ofc)
quick jolt
In one topic I founded tip to remove scoreboard.dat, I tried to remove it from the world when lobby is and restarted lobby, that doesn't work.
idk what to do, 20 players in lobby waiting and asking me why I can't connect? And I'm like ...idk 😄
reef fulcrum
Well, if it's not created manually, it's created by a plugin
you'd need to take that up with the plugin author
quick jolt
Actually i can't, with 45 players and with 1 player I do not recognize it, because it starts kicking with some players
during day, randomly
Strange is fact, that restarting the server which kicking them will always fix it
for some time
reef fulcrum
You need to work out what is creating the scoreboards
could be down to who's logged in as to what scoreboards it creates, etc
quick jolt
It should be also caused by plugin from lobby right?
reef fulcrum
yes
The issue is that two servers are creating scoreboards with the same team names
the proxy can't handle that across servers, as the issue states
it's one of those long standing bungee issues
quick jolt
yep understood..
Weird bcs I have also another server with 90% similar plugins and there is no issues. Maybe because it's 1.15.2
anyway thanks i'll try to find it
fickle flare
Hey! could anyone explain what this means
https://hasteb.in/qurilene.lua
It happened after changing someones luckperms group on a paper server
(error occurred on proxy, changed luckperms on paperspigot server)
oh wow is it literally that issue a few messages ago
slow ermine
Had this kind of issue before but it fix with just updating the lastest bungee
fickle flare
yeah i updated about 3-4 days ago and its only just started happening
still citrus
paperspigot
are you using 1.8
still citrus
some plugin isn't cleaning up scoreboards properly
reef fulcrum
That bug has existed for years and not been touched
still citrus
i don't remember the exact case since i don't really use teams or bungee
reef fulcrum
Updating bungee would have 0 impact on causing it or fixing it
fickle flare
yeah i figured
we havent changed our plugins in quite a while however and it just happened randomly after changing someones luckperm group
still citrus
well
fickle flare
(which also changes their TAB & chat format)
still citrus
that sounds like something is managing tab prefixes or scoreboards
based on lp groups or perms
and isn't doing it properly
jolly spoke
Does anyone have any recommendations for how to split up the individual waterfall/paper servers with VM's for a large network? Should waterfall be on its own VM and each paper server on their own or can some be combined like all the lobby servers on a single vm? SQL server and waterfall? Maybe Containers are better?
upper zinc
Does dynmap work on waterfall?
scenic pebble
They are unrelated. Dynmap goes on the backend server.
neat marsh
Has BungeeCord still not fixed tab_list: GLOBAL?
marble kelpBOT
it's pretty much "it's a plugin's job" atm
half carbon
It’s actually pretty cool u can find a plugin for almost anything now
bold parcel
it's also a curse, everyone flips their shit when there's an API breakage
but yeah, the ecosystem is gigantic which is neat
tidal musk
I still don't figure out what this is
It appears when I startup Bungee
Anyone knows?
delicate phoenix
Use waterfall instead of aegis, and see if the issue still accours.
marble kelpBOT
use the priorities list
tidal robin
so {online} captures the players who are online on that particular server....but what if I wanted something that told me how many people in total spread across any server on the waterfall proxy? Is their a placeholder for such a value?
dire plank
whats the command to reload waterfall
blissful plaza
What could it be the reason that i cannot connect my subservers that is 1.16.4 even though i am using latest waterfall?
royal hawk
@blissful plaza give us the output of the command /bungee please
dusky marsh
Hi all, suppose I have 1 BungeeCord and 3 Paper Server. The names are server1, server2, server3. How do I set that a player is automatically connected to the server that is online. Example: server1 and server2 are both offline. The player should now automatically connect to server3. How do I do that?
dull dock
Waterfall isn't a plugin it's a proxy and what is that supposed to mean?
I'd you have a proxy and a bunch of servers than it will work in the same way
I don't get your question, what are you trying to do exactly
And why would a plugin be at all related
What are you trying to do as I already said
Like combine all your plugins into one?
Or do you mean like do I have to setup a proxy or can I just connect them with plugins
^ waste of time, wouldn't recommend putting your resources into that
It's possible
But most likely better to do with multiple plugins
Also please don't ping me, I'll see the message either way
meager citrus
Hi, getting this error https://pastebin.com/rnd4XFVu
rapid silo
Hey, can anyone help me with setting up a waterfall server, that has a hub, a survival server and a modded server, from which I want to access the hub and the modded server through a subdomain. I set it up so, that I can acess my hub and forge server through a subdomain, but when trying to connect to the forge server, it says that I should turn on IP forwarding, when connecting through waterfall, but it works well without waterfall.
marble kelpBOT
yes, you have to enable ip-forwarding in the config.yml of your waterfall
rapid silo
I tried pointing both subdomains to the waterfall server, but I can't open two ports to one local port.
marble kelpBOT
(and bungeecord in the spigot.yml and what the equivalent of that is on your forge server)
rapid silo
ip-forwarding is turned on.
so is bungeecord
both are set to true respectively, on both servers
marble kelpBOT
are you sure you are connecting though the proxy and not directly to the server?
rapid silo
I want to be able to do both, because the proxy is also acting weird, as in if I can't connect to the forge server, it doesn't throw me back on the hub, so I get stuck on the forge server.
marble kelpBOT
you can't have both, you will have decide one or the other
allowing outside connections to a backend minecraft server while accepting ip and uuid forwarding is actually a security issue as anyone could send fake IPs/UUIDs to the server (e.g. to use an admin account)
the best you could do is fix your issues that happen when you connect through the proxy e.g. by not allowing a forge client to switch to any other server
and directly kicking them on errors/disconnects instead of trying to move them to the hub
rapid silo
I will try to go about fixing the issue for now, my forge server has security mods, so fake IP/UUID won't work. That's why I thought it would be nice to be able to connect both from waterfall and subdomain, but I guess I'll keep them separate now.
marble kelpBOT
you can just use the forced host on the proxy to directly connect people to the forge server if they use a sub domain
rapid silo
How would I go about setting that up?
marble kelpBOT
you point the sub domain to the same server and then use the forced-hosts section in bungee's config.yml
(with "same server" I mean the "same server as your proxy address is pointed to")
marble kelpBOT
of course you can?
rapid silo
even my router doesn't let me forward 2 ports to the same local port
marble kelpBOT
domains have nothing to do with forwarding
rapid silo
well, the domain answers to a public ip (the router), from where I forward to either to computer A or B, on Ports XY
marble kelpBOT
just point both domains to the same IP
rapid silo
Am I in the wrong here? Because that's how my servers are set up to work with domains/subdomains right now
marble kelpBOT
(the IP of the proxy)
rapid silo
the proxy runs on localhost and a port
marble kelpBOT
so you are doing that with srv records? or how are you remapping that to the standard port?
rapid silo
Yeah, I'm using SRV records
I would still have to forward the standard port from the router
marble kelpBOT
well it would be easier if you used the standard port but you should be able to point both sub domains to the same ip/port via srv records no?
rapid silo
I'll try modifying the SRV records
give me a minute
I'd avoid using standard ports, as I'd have to forward them anyway
marble kelpBOT
well srv records tend to not work in 100% of cases so using the standard port is usually the easier and more reliable solution ;)
rapid silo
so, I set up my forced-hosts as: subdomain : servername, and it still only lets me join through waterfall
also, when joining through waterfall, I get thrown off from the server
not without it
marble kelpBOT
yes, you want to join through waterfall. that's the goal
it's just that the forced hosts will automatically connect you to the correct server when joining through that sub domain
rapid silo
maybe there are some problems, with Magma, I tried spongeforge, but that didn't work at all
marble kelpBOT
no idea, lol
rapid silo
and regular forge I could not get to work with waterfall
marble kelpBOT
there is a forge mod for the ip/uuid forwarding iirc
rapid silo
Would be nice to have plugins though, because I wanted to set up monitoring for the server, which won't work with forge
So, I think waterfall disconnects me, when I'm trying to join, with <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [hahncraft] - bad packet ID, are mods in use!? Did not read a ll bytes from packet class net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.EntityEffect 79 Protocol GAME Direction TO_CLIENT
marble kelpBOT
try disabling the entity rewrite in the waterfall.yml
marble kelpBOT
your mods might be incompatible with the proxy then, either try using velocity instead or get someone who knows forge to look into the issue
rapid silo
I remember trying to use velocity, but that didn't work at all to begin with, I'll retry now
reef fulcrum
See the issue tracker, known issue with miss which bastardise the entity effect packet
rapid silo
I managed to make it work with velocity now, it's a shame that AdvancedPortals plugin does not work for it
See the issue tracker, known issue with miss which bastardise the entity effect packet
@reef fulcrum with miss? I didn't find anything specific on the issue tracker, sorry
meager citrus
And about #waterfall-help message someone?
reef fulcrum
royal hawk
@ electronicboy stacktrace shows it’s on 1.16.2+ so that issue doesn’t cover it. I told him to disable entity meta rewriting
But if that doesn’t fix it then I guess that server is doing some broken stuff
reef fulcrum
one above
royal hawk
Assumed sorry
@meager citrus did you actually try with entity meta rewriting disabled as I told you on Via?
reef fulcrum
entity metadata is like, I mean, either there is a bungee issue, or your server sent fucked up info
royal hawk
Or md screwed up once again and didn’t check limits of the actual version
Which is, to be fair, somewhat likely
meager citrus
will try, I just google it a little bit and was scared that there were issues with it
royal hawk
Those issues should only ever occur on < 1.16 and really only with mods
In 1.16 it’s completely arbitrary to rewrite entity meta as join game is resent on every server switch
(Because that’s required to resync the registry)
reef fulcrum
Please don't spam
fringe crane
reef fulcrum
You posted in one channel and then went to a channel which is entirely unrelated to it, and then went to another channel unrelated to it
stuck terrace
whenever i attempt to connect to my server i get a message saying "Outdated server! Im still on {0}"
reef fulcrum
update, i guess
stuck terrace
ok
reef fulcrum
/bungee iirc
grim umbra
;-; pls ping next time
hardy marsh
@grim umbra
reef fulcrum
Pay attention to chat?
If you can't be assed to stick around, why should we be arsed to answer?
hardy marsh
He answered in less than a minute
I assume if someone replied later they might have pinged you
warm birch
im new to bunjeecord so idk where to ask this
does waterfall support any version or something
or is there somewhere i can download a 1.16.2 version
reef fulcrum
latest supports 1.8-1.16.4
warm birch
aight
warm birch
do players connect to the waterfall server or the lobby server
dull dock
they connect through waterfall which leads them to the lobby server
reef fulcrum
whatever port you're setting waterfall to listen on
warm birch
okay
reef fulcrum
25565 is the default port, so, you probably wanna make the proxy use that
delicate phoenix
Hello! What sould I set my proxys, and backends servers network_compression_threshold? They are running in the same machine.
blissful plaza
@blissful plaza give us the output of the command /bungee please
@royal hawk disconnected
bungee
This server is running Travertine version git:Travertine-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.4-SNAPSHOT:fe5acbf:163 by md_5
I think problem source is 1.16. For instance; I put ViaBackwards to plugins folder, and when i enter to server, i cannot use any 1.16 blocks. And subserver is 1.16, it is ridiculous.
royal hawk
@blissful plaza is that a custom version of Travertine? This version is either so old I can’t find it or custom
royal hawk
Yea but the commit doesn’t seem right
Regardless; a /viaver dump generated link is the next thing we need
royal hawk
@blissful plaza try with these versions of Via
They might fix it
Nothing else I can think of
https://ci.viaversion.com/job/ViaVersion/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/jar/target/ViaVersion-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
https://ci.viaversion.com/view/ViaBackwards/job/ViaBackwards/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/all/target/ViaBackwards-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
blissful plaza
Thanks @royal hawk , i will report results.
delicate phoenix
on backend -1
@proper prawn Thanks, but it's a bit confusing, and on buntee to 521? 🤔
reef fulcrum
There is no optimal value
delicate phoenix
Hm, and how does the comression affects my bandwitch/preformance?
reef fulcrum
lower value = less CPU, more bandwith
Wait, no
higher value = less CPU, more bandwidth
lower value = more CPU, less bandwidth
delicate phoenix
Thanks! 
☝️
blissful plaza
@blissful plaza try with these versions of Via
They might fix it
Nothing else I can think ofhttps://ci.viaversion.com/job/ViaVersion/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/jar/target/ViaVersion-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
https://ci.viaversion.com/view/ViaBackwards/job/ViaBackwards/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/all/target/ViaBackwards-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
@royal hawk
Server is 1.16.4, however we look like using 1.15.2
royal hawk
Do you have Via installed on the proxy?
blissful plaza
Yes we have
royal hawk
Remove it from there
then PS will start working
if you have two layers of translation, aka proxy and backend, the first one will get confused
if you connect with 1.16 to Via on the proxy, via will get confused by the backend server offering a lot of different versions
either have Via/PS on all servers or Via* only on the bungee
royal hawk
gentle ruin
obsidian cape
hi i using ptero and i assigned 10 gb ram to waterfall without container
and it go to oom after 7 hours
proper prawn
why did you give it 10gb
It doesnt need so much
do you have any plugins on the proxy? replicate without them
severe badger
None of them would need 10gb
proper prawn
thats a whole lot
obsidian cape
well i can't replace them,i should assign more so?
severe badger
You would want to find out where your memory goes to.
But if you actually read the error, you'd notice your server is not capable to create new threads, you you probably want to start diagnosing why.
obsidian cape
i think all server where i used optimized flag will gonna crash soon
severe badger
That error can happen totally unrelated to any flags.
obsidian cape
but using 15 gb without flags it don't cause it
severe badger
unrelated
If the jvm asks for new threads but the os cannot allocate new native threads it will throw an oom with that message.
robust karma
is there a way i can hide myself in vanish / spectator from the tablist. im using the waterfall tablist setup on all servers. when i enable these gamemode / features players still know im around due to playercount
dusky marsh
Hi all, I have a strange issue. My bungee network consists of Bungee-Server, Server1, Server2. I can join server1 but not switch to server2 (using /server server2), but I can switch from server2 to server1. Wtf? 😄
no errors. only ServerConnector [server2] has connected. and in the same second: ServerConnector [server2] has disconnected when I enter the /server server2 command
sonic trail
wats dis
proper prawn
basically just wait
sonic trail
ok im waitig 😬
dusky marsh
Can I have a player join the same server on which he logged out?
assuming you have 4 servers, he logs out on server 3, but when he joins again he is on server1 (but want him to be on server 3)
proper prawn
make sure you have force_default_server off
dusky marsh
this is already set to false
proper prawn
then you have something else redirecting him on server1
usually it forwards them to the server they logged out from
dusky marsh
you mean like a plugin?
dusky marsh
no plugins there
and no plugins on the paper servers
player is always forced to server1
sonic trail
@proper prawn
proper prawn
what the hell you want from me
proper prawn
what the hell you want from me
sonic trail
can you help me pls?
proper prawn
r u sure u connected to the proxy and not the server directly?
proper prawn
did u use 25565 or 25577
proper prawn
when i connect with lobby
ok so you are connected thru the proxy
show proxy logs
.paste
marble kelpBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
unreal stag
using bungee in 2020
sonic trail
hä
proper prawn
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
using bungee in 2020
you live on earth, what did you expect
slow ermine
Is using waterfall better than bungeecord?
sonic trail
i have no plan
proper prawn
Is using waterfall better than bungeecord?
bungeecord < waterfall < velocity
ffs stop pinging me
sonic trail
its dis the right file??
proper prawn
all i can say is that i have no idea why this happening and how to fix it
slow ermine
Velocity have what improves?
sonic trail
oh no
slow ermine
So velocity just improve security?
proper prawn
no
slow ermine
Will it run the plugin of spigots?
proper prawn
bungeecord plugins are not compatible
slow ermine
oh...
proper prawn
most plugins have velocity ports
bold parcel
fix it little wtf
proper prawn
idk how, leave me be
royal hawk
@sonic trail Forgive me for assuming youre german; du versuchst forge mit bungeecord zu benutzen?
sonic trail
@royal hawk nein? warum
royal hawk
Was ist dann das problem? Ich versteh's nicht
royal hawk
kk
stuck nacelle
Hey, my waterfall started to lag idk why. It uses 180-600% of cpu, and sometimes it just freezes connection for couple of seconds. Can I get any help?
reef fulcrum
hook up visualvm or yourkit or something and see what's going on
paper cloak
having issues with connecting to a mod server, waterfall is giving me this
[16:55:53 INFO]: [JessasaurusRida] <-> ServerConnector [utopia] has connected
[16:56:05 WARN]: [JessasaurusRida] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [utopia] - bad packet ID, are mods in use!? Did not read all bytes from packet class net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.EntityEffect 79 Protocol GAME Direction TO_CLIENT
[16:56:05 INFO]: [JessasaurusRida] disconnected
the server is giving me this
[16:56:05 WARN]: An exceptionCaught() event was fired, and it reached at the tail of the pipeline. It usually means the last handler in the pipeline did not handle the exception.
java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException: null
at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AbstractUnsafe.write(...)(Unknown Source) ~[AbstractChannel$AbstractUnsafe.class:?]
[16:56:05 INFO]: JessasaurusRida lost connection: Disconnected
[16:56:05 INFO]: JessasaurusRida left the game
reef fulcrum
there's an issue for that open on the issue tracker
paper cloak
?
paper cloak
link to the issue?
reef fulcrum
paper cloak
well different to my issue player has no potion effect
reef fulcrum
That's the entity effect packet in general
stuck nacelle
What can I do about it? It seems that netty uses almost all of CPU
reef fulcrum
nothing useful with that
stuck nacelle
So what I can do to find/fix my issue?
reef fulcrum
I don't know, that profiler is not showing a full picture in there
severe badger
laughs in yourkit
reef fulcrum
use an ssh tunnel
stuck nacelle
Yep, yourkit was way better,but I can't pay for licence :/
reef fulcrum
huggles his OS license
stuck nacelle
From what I checked it's $499 per year
severe badger
I mean, IJ charges the same 
severe badger
Indeed
nocturne fog
ij community is a hell of a lot better than eclipse and its free
royal hawk
Eclipse is only better for doing very complicated hacks
Or the occasional quick and dirty thing
marble kelpBOT
idk what eclipse is good for at all
reef fulcrum
compile with errors
severe badger
idk what eclipse is good for at all
Nothing
reef fulcrum
I mean, my only real understanding is that it's down to "that's what my dad used" level stuff
nocturne fog
mostly sts I think
severe badger
We used it at school, but that's it. Everyone used IJ at home lol
stuck nacelle
So I finally got yourkit to do sampling, and have this result. I'm not to good at it, but are my issues related to skinrestorer?
Or what seems to be issue? If you need any more date let me know
reef fulcrum
Well, all of your time is stuck between sleeping and skinrestorer
and not exactly unheard of for skinrestorer to cause perf issues on bungee
stuck nacelle
So, what can I do?
stuck nacelle
Well, it happened out of nowwhere
Server was up running fine with 800+players
And today it just started lagging
I thought it might be big uptime (20 days)
But restarting didn't help
I updated plugins and waterfall
Still no change
reef fulcrum
800 players on a single proxy instance is also a bit extreme, at that point you 100% should be sharding instances
stuck nacelle
I know it;s near limit, however I run 1200 on this setup without lags
reef fulcrum
But, really, all of the time in there is stuck between sleeping and plugins
outside of start pulling plugins, I got nothing to tell you
stuck nacelle
And now it laggs with 750 players :/
Eh, okay. I'll have to do some guessing now if you have no other ideas
royal hawk
800 players on a single bungeecord proxy-type is ambitious to say the least
I recon velocity on the other hand should be perfectly capable of it
stuck nacelle
I've run up to 1200 players on this setup with no lags
I don't really know why lags came now
Nothing changed
echo yacht
Crash appears when I upgrade a Cartographer.
Any Fix for that or is it a bug i should report on Github.
marble kelpBOT
echo yacht
Wrong channel....
@reef fulcrum
Why? I have this Issue so I am asking for help here.
reef fulcrum
Please don't ping
This is the waterfall channel, not the paper channel
Also, see that issue
echo yacht
Oh. I saw. I am sorry for my blindness.
Ah. Thank you. Fixed in #279 Perfect. You guys are great.
short silo
Is it true that hex color codes don't work in the name of the PlayerInfo of a ServerPing object? Bungee/Waterfall seems to change it to the nearest legacy colorcode. Ping me if you have any idea why.
stuck nacelle
Hey, so I fixed issue with skinrestorer using too many resources. But it hasn't stopped my waterfall from lagging. It still runs like crap, and hangs for couple of seconds randomly. Here is profiling
Also, some "deadlocks" were found. I don't really know what it means, but here they are
Can I get any help? I'm really clueless, and my players keep complaining
stuck nacelle
Some of stuff I need are only on waterfall/bungee
And it has worked fine with 1200 players
stuck nacelle
Any help?
spiral merlin
well skinsrestorer has been known to reduce performance by a lot
severe badger
I just had to look it up and now I know why everyone trashtalks it 
spiral merlin
lol
hey do you guys know if it's anyhow possible to bypass the force_default_ server thing in config.yml?
severe badger
Like as in exploit?
spiral merlin
yes
severe badger
yeah
delicate phoenix
Pjo, how did you fixed the skinsrestorer issue?
stuck nacelle
I've temporarily removed skin restorer. However now waterfall started to crash randomly. Not even hour of uptime, and crash. I'm really tired of this. It used to run perfect, and now I have constant issues. For no reason. I'm clueless. Before lags, now crashes. Can I get any help here?
reef fulcrum
crashes how?
stuck nacelle
It just shuts itself down
reef fulcrum
logs?
reef fulcrum
.paste
marble kelpBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
stuck nacelle
There are multiple servers on this machine, and they all work fine
Only bungee crashes
So what would you suggest?
reef fulcrum
Well, that only potentially rules out the latter one
reef fulcrum
I don't know, you're in the realms of a bug or memory issues
stuck nacelle
5 minutes of uptine
reef fulcrum
Best guess would be update java if it is potentially a JVM bug, but 🤷♂️
stuck nacelle
Isn't it possible someone is crashing it using exploit?
reef fulcrum
no, very unlikely
stuck nacelle
Uptime keeps getting smaller
First crashes were every 2h
Now it's 5 minutes 😮
Here is log of newest crash. Could you see if it's the same error type?
reef fulcrum
exact same line of issue
crude pike
JVM crash inside GC means 99% hardware failure
V [libjvm.so+0x4c2a47] oopDesc::size()+0x17
V [libjvm.so+0x64982d] CMTask::deal_with_reference(oopDesc*)+0x17d
V [libjvm.so+0x644238] InstanceKlass::oop_oop_iterate_nv(oopDesc*, G1CMOopClosure*)+0x118
V [libjvm.so+0x49d4d9] CMTask::drain_local_queue(bool) [clone .part.152]+0x129
V [libjvm.so+0x4a3e0c] CMTask::do_marking_step(double, bool, bool)+0xdac
V [libjvm.so+0x4aa32f] CMConcurrentMarkingTask::work(unsigned int)+0x1cf
V [libjvm.so+0xaf9918] GangWorker::loop()+0xd8
V [libjvm.so+0x90f542] java_start(Thread*)+0x102
it's a segmentation fault, and did so running a task which messes around with memory
"getting worse" would either just imply shit pot luck in how the crash occurs, or potentially it's a hardware issue that's getting worse
crude pike
Maybe you're just lucky and rest of servers are in working part of RAM/working ram sticks/whatever
stuck nacelle
So you would suggest I do memory test?
crude pike
yes
stuck nacelle
Well, I did have this issue with bungee crashing randomly about 3 months ago, but changing version fixed it
Are you 100% sure it's not code error?
reef fulcrum
...
Your crashes are in the GC mechanism
It's literally not even touching waterfall code there
stuck nacelle
Okay, I'll try memory check. Maybe there is an error in hardware
However those 3 months ago you said that my crashes were in GC, but I had 3 months of fine working
unreal stag
well, you got unlucky
memory goes bad
your hope is to do a memory test, and get it replaced
stuck nacelle
Well, I hope it could survive at least couple of hours since it's my peak hours now
And my players are already pretty pissed
unreal stag
oh, you use OVH... good luck getting them to try and do a memory replacement 
should've used Velocity like I said
stuck nacelle
What velocity will do in terms of memory errors?
reef fulcrum
nothing
unreal stag
nothing but it's not crap unlike bungee 😉
stuck nacelle
Well, before all those issues bungee was running pretty good for me
1200 players without issues
crude pike
marble kelpBOT
100% sure not code error
my code is 100% error free
also, I do like having 1200 bots who pirate games
that do nothing but afk
wut a read
surreal stump
what commands does waterfall have more, if there docs I will read it 😉
reef fulcrum
none
stuck nacelle
I'll run memory test during night
Right now I've just slapped 24GB on bungee and it doesn't crashes. At least for 2 hours as for now
tranquil coyote
Hello I'm looking to setup waterfall, I've done the Documentation Getting Started steps, but what's next ?
Is there more documentation ?
reef fulcrum
There's the guide on bungee but it's pretty trivial, you install it, configure the backends, make sure it's secure, etc
tranquil coyote
I'm looking into Bungee docs thank tou
hidden thistle
Is velocity better?
Im just looking in their docs, its nothing like bungee i might give it a try
reef fulcrum
general gist is that velocity is written from the ground up on the lessons of bungee, many things we can't fix without just breaking plugins and crud in the process to where we might as well just hardfork, which, yea...
tidal robin
What the heck is tis.......the IP is from Ukraine
And it doesn't look like a normal type of connection either
spiral merlin
try to block the ip on a network level just to be sure, or blacklist ukraine alltogether lol
mystic sky
when players connect to my lobby through the proxy their ips show up as 172.18.0.1 this happened after some configs resetted, now it is not possible to change between spigot servers
What can I be missing?
proper prawn
enable ip forwarding
proper prawn
is bungeecord set to true in all spigot.ymls?
mystic sky
I checked for every server but not in the lobby
it is now enabled thanks
lets see if it works
It is now working, thanks
fallow flume
Hey i wanted to ask, does waterfall support connecting to vanilla 1.17 snapshots?
I understand theres no paper or spigot there
so its just a oneway connection
severe badger
There is an open pr
severe badger
fallow flume
Thanks, but can i connect a snapshot server to waterfall?
severe badger
Did you read the few lines of the pr?
fallow flume
Can i add vanilla servers to the waterfall network?
tidal musk
without modifying it, no
luckily there's Fabric and FabricProxy which allows you to run a server as close as possible to vanilla
woven stone
Hello I want to setup HaProxy with proxy_protocol
But I was wondering, if it was possible to use Nginx instead of HaProxy.
marble kelpBOT
in theory yes but I'm not sure it supports that type of information forwarding
I suggest reading into how haproxy does it and then checking if there is a way to use that protocol type with nginx
woven stone
Okey thanks
Would the HaProxy instance have to be on the same network as the Bungeecord btw?
Also, would there be noticable lag if I don't run it on the same server?
marble kelpBOT
depends on the connection between the machines. the ping between them will simply be added to the ping the players experience to the minecraft servers
woven stone
So in HaProxy I just point the IP to the Bungeecord address and that's it
Aslong as I have haproxy setup so that it connects a client to that IP
Just like with nginx
Because I have it setup with nginx right now and the huge drawback is that I can't see the IP of users anymroe
Does it use send-proxy-v2 ?
slow ermine
can bungee connect mod server and paper server?
stuck nacelle
Hey, so to anyone that helped me. Crashes indeed were related to faulty ram. OVH replaced it, and now it works fine. 800 players back again, and no lags. I hope it stays that way. Thanks 😄
royal hawk
tidal musk
Hello, when I start my proxy, this happens [21:37:08 INFO]: Enabled plugin BungeeGuard version 1.2-SNAPSHOT by Luck [21:37:08 INFO]: Enabled plugin cmd_send version git:cmd_send:1.16-R0.4-SNAPSHOT:1d2221d:384 by WaterfallMC [21:37:08 INFO]: Enabled plugin cmd_list version git:cmd_list:1.16-R0.4-SNAPSHOT:1d2221d:384 by WaterfallMC [21:37:09 WARN]: Could not bind to host minecraft.devlaunchers.com/72.249.104.219:31672 io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: bind(..) failed: Cannot assign requested address
The remote sever is on, and running in offline mode.
reef fulcrum
cannot assign requested address