waterfall-help

[meager moss]

Sorry :3

[high heath]

Can it be Paper's fault that villagers aren't breeding on any of my 3 servers?

not breeding and spawn eggs don't work either

[hearty coral]

this is not a waterfall issue

[high heath]

my bad, I realized I had spawn npcs set to false in the config

[tidal musk]

do I need G1 flags for waterfall?

The problem I am facing could be cause of Garbage collection

Maybe

🤷‍♂️

[oblique hound]

dumb question, yes, but if I wget https://papermc.io/api/v1/waterfall/1.16/latest/download that will also support 1.15 and below, won't it?

[zealous ermine]

Yes

[oblique hound]

ok

[placid depot]

Looks like the proxies haven't updated to 1.16.1 yet - Really annoying given how simple of an update it is and that it's a realms bug of all things they fixed. Ah well.

Not working for me, no.

I should clarify: I'm running a vanilla 1.16.1 server on my network, patched with vanillacord to enable IP forwarding. I'm waiting on Waterfall/bungee to update to support 1.16.1 servers. which is a pretty simple change afaik

[eternal cairn]

it's a tiny change, but you can just use viaversion for now as that supports it

[placid depot]

I'm already using ViaVersion, but that's a good point actually, I could just downgrade to the 1.16 vanilla patched server until it's updated and players connecting with 1.16.1 could still connect 🙂

[twin solstice]

wat

who tagged me

[serene tide]

Someone, auto-banned by bot

[twin solstice]

who?

[serene tide]

yahaha apparently

[twin solstice]

lol

[placid depot]

it was yahaha

he was having a perfectly normal conversation then he posted some spam tag message

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tidal musk]

wtf

it didn't even reach irc lol wut

[zinc sapphire]

14 mentions

Nice

[sand steppe]

bot rolled em

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #355: FAILURE in 6.2 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/355/

[reef fulcrum]

That felt too smooth...

[marble kelp]

Yippee, build fixed!

Project Waterfall build #356: FIXED in 3 min 5 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/356/

[fluid star]

Is there a way to customize the "Outdated server! I'm still on {0}" because its not coming from my backend and seems to be the proxy?

[proper prawn]

It's coming from the backend afaik

[fluid star]

i've just closed all my servers and it still comes up with the same message

[proper prawn]

?

[fluid star]

sorry pressed enter by accident

[reef fulcrum]

Yes, you'd need to yank out the messages file and modify it

[fluid star]

can i just place it in the same folder as the jar or do i need to put it back into the jar?

[reef fulcrum]

same folder

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #357: SUCCESS in 3 min 8 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/357/

[proper prawn]

what are the differences between waterfall and bungeecord?

[deft void]

Lol I was just about to say is there a 1.16.1 proto in the works lmao.

[barren portal]

Ikr I was eagerly refreshing the page for 1.16.1

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, for one, assuming I'm not too dead, we often support release first in some capacity

But, bar that lols, waterfall follows the same premise as paper in terms of features, performance, api, etc

[royal hawk]

Still working on fixing registry atm

👀

[barren portal]

You guys have a way to support right, like a link where you can send donations?

[deft void]

is there any optimal startup flags to use with waterfall btw?

[reef fulcrum]

pins

[strange brook]

https://papermc.io/ci/ donate button is here

[barren portal]

ah nice

ok donated

[molten remnant]

how do i make paper available for 1.16

[strange brook]

you don't

[reef fulcrum]

mfw

[molten remnant]

so how do i let 1.16 players join my server?

[reef fulcrum]

1. wrong channel

2. #announcements

3. Use one of the handful of plugins people do for that stuff

[molten remnant]

ok ill give it a go

[elfin tendon]

Can someone help me with this issue? I instantly got this error when starting up my waterfall #357 proxy: https://hastebin.com/qiwirafexa.bash

[hearty coral]

corrupt zipperoni?

[elfin tendon]

I wasn't getting this error with waterfall builds that didn't support 1.16 clients

[hearty coral]

probably because this is a different build

and those builds weren't zipperoni pepperoni

[true urchin]

does anybody have a guide on how to install a waterfall server?? Because I don t know how to lanuch it.

[elfin tendon]

So how would I go about fixing it?

[reef fulcrum]

Caused by: java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid LOC header (bad signature)

Corrupted jar

LTT has been running those set of changes for a while without any issues, apparently

[true urchin]

does anybody have a guide on how to install a waterfall server?? Because I don t know how to lanuch it.

[reef fulcrum]

read the bungee install guide

[true urchin]

ok

thx

[royal hawk]

Should

[marble kelp]

Project Travertine build #146: SUCCESS in 1 min 20 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Travertine/146/

[unreal stag]

linus pogger tips

[rough warren]

wtf

[deft void]

is there an optimal startup java flags for waterfall btw?

[proper prawn]

see pins

[deft void]

Thank you 🙂

[true flower]

Are there any existing management solutions for load balanced proxies? I'd love a way to automate DNS load balancing to take proxies offline for maintenance/updates.

Right now I'm hand editing the SRV record and waiting 18 hours lmao.

[tidal musk]

haproxy

or nginx

[chilly plover]

+1 for haproxy

[tidal musk]

however nginx is easier to configure ;)

[true flower]

Haproxy looks great, ty.

[tidal musk]

The download buttons for Waterfall in the webpage point to /api/v1/1.15 instead of /api/v1/1.16
No wonder it told me it couldn't locate the build lmao

[reef fulcrum]

force refresh the page

[tidal musk]

Madman

Can I kiss you?

I'll take that as a no

what the fuck

o -o

[eternal cairn]

i wanna kiss cat

[reef fulcrum]

use a plugin

[marble kelp]

yeah, still happens with latest waterfall. might be an slp issue

mergh, why does slp not include the build number or commit hash -.-

yeah, latest SLP build (440) shows the broken new lines

with waterfall build 357

happens even with the default config

[tidal musk]

my apologize for this stupid question. How can I start waterfall server in background ? In fact I would like to start it and stop it in a shell script. thx for your help

[brave jasper]

command &?

just use an ampersand?

[reef fulcrum]

use tmux or screen

That way you can re-attach to it if you need to

(& will also kill it when you drop the session)

[tidal musk]

thx

[meager citrus]

Hi, don't you have an idea why this error from protocollize happening? I didn't see anyone else reporting it... https://pastebin.com/HJ8ukLCD

[spiral crater]

org.mineacademy

[summer plover]

Is anyone here able to help with my issue, i've talked with the hosting company and they told me to ask you guys. Basically my proxy is running out of memory extremely slowly and crashes every single day. I need a solution to this i would also really appriciate the help after a month of this lol. Thanks

[tidal musk]

sounds like memory leak or overallocation

[summer plover]

yeah, how do i fix it, ive resetted multiple times and changed IPs

[hearty coral]

have you looked into heap dumps yet

[summer plover]

heap limiter is set at 300 mb

for my 1gb proxy

and the ram was once at 1024 for a few hours then it crashed

Where do you set custom java flags?

[hearty coral]

use the flag that lets you track native memory allocations

[summer plover]

There are no custom flags added, just the memory assignment

[soft forge]

Hey! What does this option do on Waterfall?
game_version: ''

[fluid star]

Any idea when waterfall with update upstream with bungeecord #1509? You guys are probably quite busy trying to update paper though

[reef fulcrum]

when I'm not dead, basically; Disabling entity metadata rewriting will sorta void a fair chunk of the issues that not having that might induce

[safe oriole]

is there a command to shutdown the waterfall proxy?

[twin solstice]

end

[safe oriole]

ahh thanks

[frank shoal]

1.16.1 download not working?

[fluid star]

Download from their ci instead or change the url

[reef fulcrum]

force refresh the page

[brave rock]

Hi, i can't start my server with a link in this line: https://i.cryllical.io/u/9RrSF.png

What can i do to fix this

[reef fulcrum]

""

[brave rock]

oh, that worked

thank you

nvm

[marble kelp]

I don't think these messages auto-parse urls

[marble kelp]

yeah

yes, 1.16 basically doesn't exist

[static monolith]

Does waterfall support 1.16.1?

[marble kelp]

yes

[hasty peak]

Hello ! My players and myself have a bug when we do /spawn or when we respawn we get kicked because of a netty issue

Might someone have an idea on how to fix this ?

[marble kelp]

so I found a workaround to the player hover new line issues: ServerListPlus has a Samples.Multiple setting which creates a new player entry for each line rather than relying on new line characters

turning that on made the new line entry prettier (added a wrong "and x more" to the bottom but that's better than it being completely broken, lol)

[marble kelp]

first step (adding rgb support to ping messages) is done =D

now to add backwards compatibility :S

[tall oasis]

dose waterfall support ipv6 ?

[tidal musk]

yes

[tall oasis]

thank you

[thick latch]

what is the advantage of using waterfall instead of bungeecord?

[rain fable]

Waterfall is a fork of the well-known BungeeCord server teleportation suite.

Waterfall focuses on three main areas:

Stability: Waterfall aims to be stable. We will achieve this through making the code base testable and discouraging practices that lead to proxy lag.
Features: Waterfall aims to include more features than canonical BungeeCord.
Scalability: Waterfall should be able to handle a large number of concurrent players, given a reasonably modern CPU, memory, and good network connection.

[thick latch]

I know that much but what are the specific advantages, like what exactly is more stable and what are the extra features?

[hearty coral]

see github for details I suppose

but basically it's just better

[thick latch]

where do I find those details on github?

[hearty coral]

look at the commits and their descriptions

https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/commits/master

[thick latch]

thank you very much

[hearty coral]

anything that isn't "updated upstream" is or was exclusive to waterfall at the time it was committed

[marble kelp]

looking into the patch folder is better imo

[hearty coral]

i suppose

[thick latch]

hmmm

[fallen thorn]

Uh, Phoenix, how can it be that you have the bot tag?

[marble kelp]

it was forced upon me

[fallen thorn]

No for real please

[tidal musk]

he's userbotting

[marble kelp]

👀

[tidal musk]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[fluid star]

did we get an upstream update with bungeecord yet?

[thorny surge]

What is waterfall?

I dont see info about it

[marble kelp]

bungeecord fork with some performance and api improvements

[thorny surge]

All these forks and versions are so confusing lol.

So there is temp waterfall support but not paper. Can I use waterfall instead of paper for now on a paper 1.15?

Or is that a stupid question

[marble kelp]

it's a stupid question

waterfall is bungee fork which is a a proxy software to connect multiple minecraft servers together

it's not a minecraft server

[thorny surge]

Ah lol. Still new to this stuff ty

[coarse pike]

Is there an issue with difficulty not saving?

[sacred canyon]

Don't spam your message into multiple channels. That's unrelated to #waterfall-help

[hasty peak]

what's the difference between waterfall and travertine ?

[verbal compass]

travertine supports 1.7

[empty dragon]

[Waterfall] Anyone is having problems with server icon loading in 1.16? This is a new instance (.minecraft). First ping shows the icon right, but after refresh or join the icon is blank

[twin solstice]

seen it before when i tested it on day -1

no issues personally with the latest serverlistplus & waterfall though

[marble kelp]

yeah, only happened to me without SLP

[tidal musk]

Hi all, i'm looking for a command to stop waterfall server safely. Somebody could help me ?

[reef fulcrum]

end

[tidal musk]

@reef fulcrum of course. But I didn't have any access to term. My waterfall is in a docker container. Is is possible to send "end" by another way ?

[serene tide]

Please do not mention project developers directly.

[reef fulcrum]

should work just fine iirc as docker kills the process and gives it time to shutdown properly

[tidal musk]

so simple. thx

[small kelp]

Is it posssible to fail players over to a second instance of waterfall so that I can reboot/load balance?

[tidal musk]

if you are proxying the proxy

but that still means you have single point of failure

[empty dragon]

[Waterfall] Anyone is having problems with server icon loading in 1.16? This is a new instance (.minecraft). First ping shows the icon right, but after refresh or join the icon is blank
@empty dragon Then minecraft 1.16 seems that changed how to load favicons works. I'm not using SLP and I can't use it because I need a private plugin for syncing up my players. Any idea? xd

[marble kelp]

you can easily hook into slp to sync players ;)

but test on bungeecord I guess to see if it's a waterfall change or not

[empty dragon]

I have multiple waterfalls connected without redis, I'm sure slp is not a solution for me but thanks xd

[marble kelp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

why easy when you can have it the hard way, amirite?

[empty dragon]

same reason you're talking to me using a bot lol

[twin solstice]

what

that's an IRC bridge

[marble kelp]

yes, I like it easy, that's why I use IRC ;)

[empty dragon]

first time i see a discord-irc user xd

[marble kelp]

I'm an IRC user

all the other dumdums have moved to discord :(

[hearty coral]

must be lonely over there

botting all by yourself

[whole tundra]

Will Paper (and plugins of course) work normally with Java 14? What is the best Java version?

[hearty coral]

i've seen 11 thrown around a bunch recently

[marble kelp]

while this is the waterfall channel... yes, paper and plugins run without issues on java 14 unless they do some really dumb/outdated stuff

[junior flower]

Help, how do I add color to waterfall's motd?

[junior flower]

whatever, I just used a plugin

[limber sage]

Huh, so Java 11 is best? Am I wrong to be using Java 8?

[lusty kettle]

8 is fine

[fierce summit]

@summer plover Did you ever sort out the issue with your proxy memory? I've been running into a similar thing this last month, not sure what's causing it. What proxy plugins do you use btw?

[whole tundra]

Loool, I send in not right chat...

[summer plover]

@fierce summit none

I’m also changing proxy now and no other version is working

[tidal musk]

Hey Again lol, I can't find the last code build for Waterfall 1.8.8 ?,

latest supports 1.8 just fine

[zinc sapphire]

refresh the page

site's already updated, browser caching is still fucky

might have to clear your cache or hold shift when you refresh to get your browser to stop caching

think I saw what was causing that the other night but I havent confirmed it

[thick latch]

357 is in 1.16/357, no? https://papermc.io/api/v1/waterfall/1.16/357

[zinc sapphire]

yes

[marble kelp]

Janus does for nether portals, lol

it's pretty bare-bones though. I have my own fork for that which is slightly more updated: https://github.com/Minebench/Janus

yes, it's one of the very first and basically an example plugin

hasn't been updated in years though :S

that's why I have a fork ;D

oh, I see

I thought you just wanted manual server portals, sorry

don't know of any plugin that does that, I guess most servers have their own solutions

[tidal musk]

okay is their a way to change the name on a bungeecord server

[torn river]

Heyo,

I've tried routing the IP via a forced host, but it doesn't seem to be working.

https://hastebin.com/ucadatesep.makefile

Trying to connect via the numerical IP just says to enable IP Forwarding.

[frosty finch]

well then enable ip forwarding

[tidal musk]

is their a way to remove the cmd bungee?

[frosty finch]

?

[tidal musk]

@tidal musk There isnt but a bungee PR was made to make it permission based iirc https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/pull/2787

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #358: SUCCESS in 3 min 14 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/358/

[zinc raven]

Waterfall is not showing the sum of all of my players across all my servers in the player list when using the bungee IP.

[tidal musk]

is it important to update to build 358 if i am using 357

[reef fulcrum]

if you have ping passthrough, it will only pull the main servers motd

[zinc raven]

Could you elaborate on that? Currently it seems to be pulling from the hub server. I want it to just be bungee's MOTD, and therefore, its entire player sum.

[reef fulcrum]

config.yml, ping_passthrough

you want that to be false

[zinc raven]

Thanks. Will report back whether it fixes the issue within 5 minutes

[zinc raven]

works!

mhmm

MOTD is now broken however

!hastebin

!paste

!dev

[reef fulcrum]

.paste

[marble kelp]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[zinc raven]

https://hastebin.com/ekureluseq.makefile

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/24aedb605b8f4f8499030b45bc0a0294

Ignore the first 65 lines, no idea why it did that

[reef fulcrum]

define "broken"

[mental eagle]

is there a way to turn off the java panel

[zinc raven]

It is showing "Hub" instead of the bungee motd

I assume it is grabbing it from the bottom of the config under "servers:"

Is this correct?

[little garden]

How would one go about adding RGB colour to the MOTD in waterfall?

[reef fulcrum]

would need a plugin for it i think

[little garden]

are there possibly any plans for adding like, json support for MOTD? so it could do this without a plugin

[reef fulcrum]

og, you can use &x&1....... loking at it

[little garden]

like '&x&1ff7308Test Orange'

with #ff7308 being a weird orange

let me test

[reef fulcrum]

& behind each char looking at it

[scarlet pilot]

Waterfall versions 351-358 cannot be downloaded because link is wrong..
The link on site: https://papermc.io/api/v1/waterfall/1.15/358/download
Working link: https://papermc.io/api/v1/waterfall/1.16/358/download

[little garden]

[reef fulcrum]

force refresh the page

[rugged dragon]

Hi, I think there's is a problem with the latest version of Waterfall which cause the client to stay at Loading terrain in nether. Also after you press ESC everything is working normal

[little garden]

motd: '&x&f&f&7&3&0&8Test Orange'

#FF7308
&x and then a & before all chars, yup you're correct

how awful, but still looks cool

[pastel oyster]

would be better to support &{#FF7308} or like that

[lusty fiber]

Is this a problem with Waterfall?

[royal hawk]

1.16?

[lusty fiber]

yes 😄

[royal hawk]

This commonly has two causes; outdated server; wrong setup of protocol hacks or you don’t have bungee forwarding set up correctly

[lusty fiber]

I removed ProtocolSupport

And I updated to 1.16 and it was working

then on next restart it stopped working?

[reef fulcrum]

something sent a kick packet or something in the wrong phase

check your server logs, etc

[royal hawk]

That is exactly what happens in the two scenarios above too ^

[lusty fiber]

I updated alot of my plugins

as they required it

[royal hawk]

Check whether forwarding and bungee online mode are set correctly on the server

[lusty fiber]

Should this be enabled?

[fluid star]

yes

[reef fulcrum]

is your bungee in online mode is what it's asking

[fluid star]

offline mode?!

[lusty fiber]

Lol the amount of kids that ask the server to be in offline mode

[tidal musk]

Are we allowed to modify modules ?

[spare wolf]

hey guys got a problem after updating waterfall to the latest my server icon apears the first time but refreshing just shows this white icon

its should look like this

[marble kelp]

known issue, might want to test with bungeecord to see if it occurs there too

[spare wolf]

ok its not a desprate thing dont think anyone will miss it lol ill do it later on 🙂

[strange brook]

i remember someone talking about icons

[marble kelp]

well it will never be fixed if nobody properly reports it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strange brook]

[spare wolf]

oof

[royal hawk]

I wonder what broke

[spare wolf]

just wanted to make sure it was know

[royal hawk]

I’ve seen the issue on bungeecord too

[spare wolf]

I wonder what broke
@royal hawk th icon

[royal hawk]

No shit Sherlock

[spare wolf]

lol

[royal hawk]

Not an issue on Velocity from what I’ve been seeing

[marble kelp]

I mean it's a completely different server so...

[spare wolf]

ye

[blazing kraken]

is the latest waterfall 1.16? i can’t tell since it doesn’t seem to be marked with a version in the downloads page

[marble kelp]

yes, take a look at the commit messages to see when new version support is added

[blazing kraken]

ah ok

[marble kelp]

seeing as the bungee support 1.8-1.16.1 it doesn't make much sense to have per-version releases ;)

[spare wolf]

whu

[marble kelp]

not using RGB colors

[spare wolf]

whats wrong with not using RGb

[marble kelp]

it's ugly

[spare wolf]

: (

[low elk]

.g serverlistplus placeholders

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/Minecrell/ServerListPlus/wiki/Placeholders -- Placeholders · Minecrell/ServerListPlus Wiki · GitHub: "A flexible Minecraft plugin to customize the appearance of your server in the server list - Minecrell/ServerListPlus."

[fluid star]

is SLP updated to 1.16?

or have support for the new rgb?

[tropic latch]

Is it necessary to use startup flags for waterfall in start.sh?

[stark lake]

https://hastebin.com/imaqonuyad.css
When joining my 1.16.1 survival serveThen it says ingame to me in chat ‘the server you were previously om went down’ even tho its still up. So,etimes i can join but after a few mins it ends up kocking me too.

i tried with the LATEST waterfall and also LATEST travertine. Same thing happens

[marble kelp]

no error on the server?

[stark lake]

On the spigot server no error at all

[marble kelp]

oh wait, you have a duplicate team

[stark lake]

I also tried using paper 1.16

[marble kelp]

some plugin is doing something dumb or you have the same team names on two servers

[stark lake]

Wdym duplicate team?

Team names?

What teams

What

[marble kelp]

no need to spam...

also vanilla scoreboard teams

looks like there was a recent change in BungeeCord though which clears the tablist on server change, maybe that's supposed to fix issues like this but it hasn't been included in waterfall yet

maybe test with the latest bungee and build before that and see on which one it happens?

oh wait, ignore that

seems like it was included in waterfall already

[stark lake]

Oh so it could be my tablist?

[marble kelp]

test without all of them I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

but yeah, anything that touches the tablist would be a prime suspect

[stark lake]

Ok

[marble kelp]

Project Travertine build #147: SUCCESS in 1 min 22 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Travertine/147/

[stark lake]

Is that in reference to me?

[marble kelp]

I doubt it

just cat remembering to pull recent waterfall changes into travertine ;D

[stark lake]

Oh ok

Fixed it. I believe it was geyser mc

[hearty coral]

geyser has been giving me issues in 1.16 bungee/waterfall as well

[stark lake]

Yeah we gotta wait till they update

Oh nvm it's not geyser

Still happening ._.

[marble kelp]

uh, interestingly it looks like it's an empty team name

[stark lake]

Also tried removing tab plugin from the spigot server too

[reef fulcrum]

probs just a bunch of color codes

delete scoreboard.dat on the server, beyond that, start pulling plugins

[stark lake]

Where can i find scoreboard.dat

also you're taking about from my proxy server right

[marble kelp]

no, it's on the minecraft servers

[stark lake]

wait sorry were you bring sarcastic or something because it's not on the spigot server either

[reef fulcrum]

it's in the world folder somewhere

[stark lake]

Oh ok

[reef fulcrum]

.g waterfall scoreboard teams existing server

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/server/configuration.html -- Configuration — PaperDocs 1.14.4 documentation: "Nov 24, 2019 ... This sets whether the server should remove those empty teams ... description: The maximum range the server will use to look for an..."

[reef fulcrum]

gfdi

There is an open issue on the tracker, I'm disappearing

[hearty coral]

zzzz

[stark lake]

Oof. I can't find it

[marble kelp]

should be in your main world's data folder

[rocky lava]

Is it safe to use latest waterfall build? (1.16 support)

[stark lake]

All i see is this

Checked other worlds too

[marble kelp]

well check all of them I guess

also the default world is the one that is set to level-name in the server.properties

[stark lake]

Ye

Welp that didn't work either

Guess it's plugin pull time

[tidal musk]

is 1.16.1 api released for waterfall?

can i update my pom.xml

is 1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT correct?

waterfall does not use -Rx.y scheme

neither does bungee

[tidal musk]

how come it worked then?

no clue?

[terse hound]

Hey just updated to 1.16 and im getting this

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Team already exists in this scoreboard
at com.google.common.base.Preconditions.checkArgument(Preconditions.java:191)

super spammy and crashing

[strange brook]

basically what it says...

you have multiple things adding a team with the same name

[terse hound]

we dont tho its a fresh install ill look tho

[strange brook]

fresh install of what

scoreboard teams might be coming from the backends too

[terse hound]

of waterfall

ah

ok tyvm

Anyway i can tell where its coming from or is it just look and hope

[marble kelp]

m​ik​ro​sk​ee​m: bungee does

(since 1.16 bungee-chat has been added to maven central)

[tidal musk]

what

gg

TIL

[marble kelp]

basically there are "stable" release versions on the maven central release repo now for bungee

[tidal musk]

wrong channel my dude

[marble kelp]

use a plugin, I'm sure some exist that offer that

[languid cosmos]

I can't seem to join my Waterfall server on 1.14

Using the latest build with ViaVersion as well. I tried Viabackwards and ViaRewind but it had a null pointer exception so didn't work either.

[languid cosmos]

Nevermind, my bad. Just a conflict with ProtocolSupport.

[dapper relic]

So, I'm new to the whole inter-server deal and Waterfall/Bungeecord. I have PaperMC 1.15.2 on my server currently and am having a hard time finding starting point for getting Waterfall integrated into my server(s)

[zinc raven]

Hello

I have two separate bungees that I want it to access them all

the servers. How do I make this happen?

Does restricting or Ip-forwarding disallow this?

If I'm not making sense, basically I have two bungee proxies that will access all 4 separate servers, including two identical hubs, Skyblock, Creative, and Disneyland, so that we'll have two different servers link up together using two different IPs (which is why the hubs are duplicates).

[violet shard]

is there anyway to check waterfall timings?

[dusty kindle]

Hey guys! I have a mixed version waterfall setup. Some servers (like a hub) are on 1.15 and some are on 1.16 -- when a 1.15 player tried connect to the 1.16 server it has some weird effects, like saying "you're already on this server" or falling them back to a unrelated 1.15 server

is there any way to let the client know they need to update to 1.16 instead in those cases?

[tidal musk]

Idk but a solution would be to add viaversion to the 1.15 ones and connect with 1.16 everywhere @dusty kindle

[tidal musk]

is craked played can join

do

[dull pulsar]

cracked players shouldn't be able to join @tidal musk

[foggy cloak]

cracked stuff isnt supported here anyways as far as ik 😛

as in giving people support to people that want cracked players on their server.

[dull pulsar]

Does anyone know what this error means?

[foggy cloak]

google the error @dull pulsar

[dull pulsar]

I did

nothing popped up that I didn't try

[royal hawk]

https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555462214606389275/726793216690618398

Look slightly above or below

[dull pulsar]

I read all of that

I swaped to spigot and it works again

[obsidian flower]

hi, I have a question. I encountered bungeecord-addresses on my config files, both spigot.yml and paper.yml. I already have bungeecord: true set, but I'm curious, what is bungeecord-addresses for?

[eternal cairn]

Thats a known 1.16 bug

[marble kelp]

could use SLP, it doesn't seem to have that issue

[tidal musk]

ye

[unreal needle]

Has anyone had issues with a player joining using 1.15.2 and when they go to switch servers it gets stuck on Loading Terrain screen? On 357 everything works fine, the issue started happening as soon as I updated to waterfall 358. My servers are running on Tuinity build 128

[tidal musk]

can I use ChatColor.of(<hex>) on ServerListPing?

will it show hex colors on the server list?

[marble kelp]

https://tryitands.ee/

[tidal musk]

i have tried it and it didnt work but defaulted to the colors used before

[marble kelp]

yes, that should work, Fredrik

[tidal musk]

it didnt phoenix :/

[marble kelp]

?paste your code then I guess

Please paste all your code/errors/startup logs at http://hasteb.in/

[tidal musk]

yes a sec

here: https://hasteb.in/ufonehuf.gradle

[marble kelp]

hm

that works for me

(in a slightly more advanced and roundabout way but it boils down to exactly that)

oh wait, can you try with motd.setExtra(Arrays.asList(bs));

instead of the list?

that's basically the only difference

[tidal musk]

is waterfall better than bungee?

[marble kelp]

yeah

that's the point of a fork

[tidal musk]

that works for u phoenix? wut

[marble kelp]

yes

see https://github.com/Minebench/ServerListPlus/blob/minebench/Bungee/src/main/java/net/minecrell/serverlistplus/bungee/BungeePlugin.java#L218-L226

[tidal musk]

tyty

[tidal musk]

server-ico work?

or what can block it?

[marble kelp]

bugs

it's a known issue that it behaves wierdly in 1.16 if you mean that

[gaunt breach]

Hey can i somehow control bungeecord permission with a standart permissions plugin in my case luckperms ?

I don't want to have seperate groups in the bungee config but want bungee to grab the permission from luckperms or another bukkit permission plugin

[marble kelp]

yes, luckperms can do bungee permissions

[gaunt breach]

how ?

[marble kelp]

just install it on your bungee and set it up with the same database

not sure if you need to enable that it shares permissions though but it should be clear from the config/their wiki

[gaunt breach]

We have the plugin on the bungee and bungee still uses it's inbuild system

Even tho a person has the correct permission node

[marble kelp]

iirc there is a option in luckperms for whether or not it should use the config.yml permissions or not

[gaunt breach]

both are configured to a database and work generally only the bungee cord nodes are not recognised

[marble kelp]

there's also a config setting for whether or not global permissions should apply or only the one in the server's context. maybe the bungee one sets that by default to only get permissions in the bungee scope? not sure

[gaunt breach]

Checked that and all of that is setup correctly, i'll go to the luckperms discord and ask there for help, i might come back later, we already tried all the things you suggested tho, but thanks!

[sturdy wolf]

https://pastebin.com/5iAJE89c what it this? Travertine

[zinc raven]

Where can I find permission nodes for waterfall?

Can't find it anywhere

[marble kelp]

don't think it adds any new ones

[zinc raven]

so bungee.command.server should work?

[marble kelp]

yeah

[sturdy wolf]

Somebody?

https://pastebin.com/5iAJE89c

[zinc raven]

Still doesn't

Luckperms support tried everything.

[scenic pebble]

?

You have to use LBP for that

[broken lily]

@zinc raven I'm running the latest Waterfall and that works for me fine

Look into Verbose mode (LP) to see where the permission is being negated from

[zinc raven]

Ok that works now

Issue though

Lots of people are crashing when joining bungee. It seems to be about 25% of people. No idea why

We have viaversion.

[broken lily]

Idk man, maybe upload your Waterfall log to a paste service or something

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #359: SUCCESS in 3 min 10 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/359/

Project Travertine build #148: SUCCESS in 1 min 26 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Travertine/148/

[violet shard]

does backend spigot server if it got exploit will affect waterfall cpu usage?

[reef fulcrum]

it's a proxy

it's load depends on wtf they're doing

[violet shard]

because sometimes my waterfall got 600% fluctuate

without anyreason, how to check?

[reef fulcrum]

use a profiler, as has been suggested countless of times...

[violet shard]

spark?

its said 100% at all

[reef fulcrum]

Well, yea, a thread running for all of the CPU time is 100%

You actually have to dig into the info

or, as I've said, use a proper tool

spark is great for "i know shit went sideways", but, for actually digging into stuff, some level of glhf

[violet shard]

uhmm okay

does plugin like skinsrestore or bungeetablistplus is heavy?

[reef fulcrum]

🤷‍♂️

That's what a sampler is for

[winged thistle]

Hmm, updated waterfall and now all bungee plugins don't seem to work

https://pastebin.com/1HZgGMJe

[reef fulcrum]

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/2878

I'm actually on the verge of closing discord for a day or two to chill, so, 0 interest debugging wtf they're doing, maybe something sent a bad component? but, 🤷‍♂️

advice is just gonna be to downgrade for now

[winged thistle]

Ahh, alright, thanks for informing!

[unreal needle]

I haven't tried it with the latest version. But have you tried redirectplus?

[marble kelp]

tons of load balancing plugins exist

doubt any of them require a 1.16 specific update tbh

[frosty finch]

@tidal musk timocloud

includes load balancing and can create / start servers on demand ingame

[rare hazel]

help

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[marble kelp]

?paste

Please paste all your code/errors/startup logs at http://hasteb.in/

also please don't ping random people

also please use english ;_;

[rare hazel]

Last update of waterfall-359 does not recognize any command from my plugins, it does not allow you to put any command because it kicks you, it does not allow lobby servers to enter others

[marble kelp]

?paste your log file

Please paste all your code/errors/startup logs at http://hasteb.in/

[frosty finch]

screenshot isnt a log

[rare hazel]

Before I had waterfall.jar and it worked normal and well, since I updated to waterfall-359.jar it gives me errors, now I put waterfall.357.jar the error still persists

[marble kelp]

please use a paste service

[marble kelp]

I'm not going to download a file

[rare hazel]

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:351) ~[?:1.8.0_241]
at net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.PluginManager.enablePlugin(PluginManager.java:381) ~[waterfall-359.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
at net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.PluginManager.loadPlugins(PluginManager.java:285) ~[waterfall-359.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:277) ~[waterfall-359.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:62) ~[waterfall-359.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15) ~[waterfall-359.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin

[marble kelp]

...

?paste

Please paste all your code/errors/startup logs at http://hasteb.in/

but w/e, you are trying to load a bukkit plugin on a proxy server

don#t

[woven stirrup]

Do you think it's best to put waterfall in a separate VPS, or directly in the same machine with the other servers?

[marble kelp]

depends, Redwolf

[woven stirrup]

on?

[marble kelp]

what your goal is

[woven stirrup]

0 lag

with 400 players

[marble kelp]

it's definitly faster (if you have the resources) if the proxy is on the same machine as you have zero ping and the power of a dedicated processor

[rare hazel]

but it was working fine, I don't know because the update doesn't work anymore

[marble kelp]

B​oo​ly​St​ud​y: no, the plugin in question never worked on the proxy server

[woven stirrup]

ok ty

[rare hazel]

What complement does not work?

Before waterfall worked for me, I don't know because updating it no longer allows you to use anything

[marble kelp]

?paste your full error log here

Please paste all your code/errors/startup logs at http://hasteb.in/

without that nobody can help you and all we can do is guessing

which wastes way too much time

[rare hazel]

I already sent you the screenshots, and the gos, it is what I get, it does not allow to use any command of bungeecord plugins, nor does it allow me to connect to other servers

[marble kelp]

the screenshots did not contain the full information, just send the full proxy log file int eh rpeviously linked paste site

[rare hazel]

O java.lang.NullPointerException: null
01.07 09:33:50 [Server] INFO at net.md_5.bungee.util.ChatComponentTransformer.legacyHoverTransform(ChatComponentTransformer.java:44) ~[waterfall-357.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
01.07 09:33:50 [Server] INFO at net.md_5.bungee.util.ChatComponentTransformer.transform(ChatComponentTransformer.java:111) ~[waterfall-357.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
01.07 09:33:50 [Server] INFO at net.md_5.bungee.UserConnection.sendMessage(UserConnection.java:500) ~[waterfall-357.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]
01.07 09:33:50 [Server] INFO at net.md_5.bungee.UserConnection.sendMessage(UserConnection.java:463) ~[waterfall-357.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.2-SNAPSHOT:d0f82f3:359]

those logs I get when I try to do a bungeecord command

[marble kelp]

as I said: we need the full log

[rare hazel]

What is the page to paste a heavy text?

[scenic pebble]

.paste

[marble kelp]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[rare hazel]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/2030258f42254b1aa3206494ac4c5b03

[marble kelp]

the plugin HamsterAPI does not work on a proxy, also dynamicbungeeauth seems to be triggering a bug in the server. see if they have an update

same goes for whatever ACSJoinPlayer is a lsitener off

might want to test with Bungee and if the error occurs there too to report on their issue tracker

oh, you also want to update waterfall first I guess, lol

[rare hazel]

HamsterAPI must be because I update it today, thanks probare

It does not work, I will put BungeeCord to see if it is solved

[marble kelp]

can you paste the new log with the latest waterfall?

B​oo​ly​St​ud​y: use waterfall b358, bungee has a change in the latest version that seems to cause your error

[honest spruce]

I post this here beacause in #paper-help too much people ^^

i use aikar flags jvm and i have old gen issues, as indicated i repport this : https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/0382118ec9d74558a03ed9a923dd5939/files/51ee4433ca5240b89d5b2c4fa3090ad3/raw
My timings : https://timings.aikar.co/?id=a6785ea5936a4e0f8caab9397789c548

My gc.log.1.current i here : https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/0382118ec9d74558a03ed9a923dd5939/files/51ee4433ca5240b89d5b2c4fa3090ad3/raw

[honest spruce]

@unique linden Can you help me ?

[rare hazel]

b358?

waterfall

[tidal musk]

#358

[woven stirrup]

https://pastebin.com/ACnGm4eH

guys getting some weird logs with the latest version

and crashes

[violet fog]

same

[marble kelp]

downgrade a build, it's a bungee bug

[elder hatch]

just a quick question , some years passed since i last used something like bungee , if i install for example waterall on one server , does the "lobby" server need to be on the same machine ?

[unreal needle]

No

[marble kelp]

does anybody know which ports need to be open for a player to connect to a minecraft server from a proxy? because it seems like it is able to ping the server and get a status but it players get a connect timeout exception

and the server port is open according to nmap too

[unreal needle]

The only port that needs to be open to the outside world is the port your proxy I'd using. Normally 25565. If your server is on a different server than that of your proxy. The port that that server is running on needs to be open for connection from the IP address that the proxy is sending the user from

[marble kelp]

hm, which IP is is sending it from? I sure don't hope it's the listening address, lol

[unreal needle]

Is the server and the proxy on the same box?

[marble kelp]

no

[unreal needle]

Are they connected to each other via a private network?

[marble kelp]

via a vpn, yes

[unreal needle]

So it should be the internal IP address

[marble kelp]

pinging via ServerInfo#ping or whatever the method seems to work just fine

[unreal needle]

Of the proxy box

[marble kelp]

just connecting doesn't

well there isn't even any firewall rule on the paper server's box that blocks traffic

so this is odd

[unreal needle]

Try running a server on the proxy box to make sure that the user can.

[marble kelp]

could it be that it somehow tries to send traffic via the external IP or something?

I am running servers on the proxy box just fine

trying to add some on another box connected via a tinc vpn (which shouldn't matter as it's just a standard linux tunnel)

[unreal needle]

Hmm. Are you allowing all external traffic from the proxy box or only on certain ports and are you running the proxy serverr on 0.0.0.0 or the external ip

[marble kelp]

I am allowing all traffic between the different servers

(the vpn ips of each other have full access as well as both external adresses)

the proxy is listening on the public IP... but I kinda question why that should play a role tbh

or wait

[unreal needle]

Well that means that it is going to send the user via the external ip

[marble kelp]

I think linux doesn't route through a different interface if you bind to one

[unreal needle]

Yeo

[marble kelp]

I guess localhost is different? because it works just fine for localhost servers that definitly aren't accessible from the outside, lol

[unreal needle]

Local host is different

And are the servers on the secondary box set up using the external IP address or the internal IP address

[marble kelp]

internal VPN address

[unreal needle]

That's the problem

You have the proxy set up on the external IP address and the servers on the secondary setup on the internal IP address

So bind the proxy to all interfaces AKA all zeros

[marble kelp]

I wonder if specifying a second listener (which users don't connect through) would force it to try both routes, lol

[unreal needle]

Don't need it. Just set the proxy up on 0.0.0.0

Then it will be able to send traffic via the internal address

[marble kelp]

Could not bind to host /0.0.0.0:25565

[unreal needle]

Is one of your servers on that box using 25565 on localhost?

[marble kelp]

they all are

all local servers use the default port with different localhost address xD

[unreal needle]

....

I guess that's one way of doing it

[marble kelp]

it's pretty handy, we just have hostnames for each server. then we don't have to remember IPs or ports because that's all the same and refered to by name

[unreal needle]

I definitely would have recommended that way but that would work. But now you got to change all the servers to a different port

*wouldn't

[marble kelp]

(also ports are finite, there's tons more localhost addresses ;D

but I wonder if I could just give them all their own IP in the VPN

[unreal needle]

In what world what do you use all the ports. That would have to be a supercomputer to be able to make use of all the ports on the single box

Lol

[marble kelp]

there's only 65k ¯_(ツ)_/¯

same number as maps in minecraft btw 👀

[unreal needle]

Lop

Lol

But yeah all the service is going to have to be changed with different ports so you can bind to zeros

*servers

[marble kelp]

I'm kinda confused why bungee behaves in that way tbh. or is that just a limiation of network on linux?

[unreal needle]

Network limitation

[marble kelp]

hm, I bet I could make bungee run in the vpn too and just forward the traffic with iptables

[unreal needle]

You probably could

[marble kelp]

sounds easier than changing all servers and editing tons of config files, lol

[unreal needle]

Yea a ton easier

[covert portal]

Can someone upstream WF or do we need to wait for Cat to fix this:
https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/2878

[marble kelp]

but thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)

[unreal needle]

Yep no probs

[marble kelp]

whelp, so much for port forwarding being the easier... it doesn't want to :S xD

[unreal needle]

Lol

[marble kelp]

I mean I managed to forward one public port to another one... but not to a localhost port xD

[unreal needle]

Yea. It probably wouldn't like that

[marble kelp]

well tehre are tons of stackoverflow answers that sound like that "just works"

[unreal needle]

Same os version?

[marble kelp]

as?

[unreal needle]

Operating system. Like centos or Debian or redhat

So forth and so on

[marble kelp]

debian, and yes. as far as I can tell they all use debian.

I guess tehy don't specify the iptabels version so

[unreal needle]

Hmm. Yea that might play into it. I haven't really done much with port forwarding on IP tables though. So can't really comment on that

[marble kelp]

stuff like this is why I don't do sysadmin professionally, lol

lmao, so I somehow managed it... but now it can't connect to my localhost servers anymore

ok wtf

[unreal needle]

Just set everything up on the localhost up and just use different ports. Lol so you can bind the proxy to 0.0.0.0

[marble kelp]

now it works everyhwere

[unreal needle]

Nice

[marble kelp]

this makes zero sense

[unreal needle]

Lol

Welcome to iptables

[marble kelp]

as far as I can tell the port forward isn't even working

[unreal needle]

Hmm weird

[marble kelp]

but whatever I did somehow made it so that I first could only connec to the vpn and then, after I removed the output rule I added for testing, I could switch to all servers

this feels like I forced it to discover that route or something

lets see what happens if I restart bungee, lol

yeah, it works without any iptables rules. I think setting "net.ipv4.conf.all.route_localnet" to 1 is what did the trick

[unreal needle]

From that name I would assume so

[marble kelp]

but apparently there are some security implications :S

[unreal needle]

Hmm

Yea... I can imagine there might be a couple

[marble kelp]

well I set it to 0 and it still works

[unreal needle]

O.o did you restart the proxy after changing the setting?

[marble kelp]

nah, doing that now

still works 👀

the only thing that's really different now is that I added a second listener in bungee on localhost, lol

but I'm connecting through the external one so

[unreal needle]

But the fact that you added the listener on localhost means that it is active on the local network

[marble kelp]

the thing is: it didn't work the first time I tried that

yeah, removed it and restarted and it still works

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

idc anymore, lol

[unreal needle]

Lol

[thorny ridge]

Anyone elses bungee plugins get absolutely kneecapped by the latest updates? lol
Namely;

• Add the MessageRaw channel
• Add support for contents in Hover Event
  Broke so much of my Bungee plugins it's not even funny

[marble kelp]

Project Travertine build #149: SUCCESS in 1 min 26 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Travertine/149/

Project Waterfall build #360: SUCCESS in 3 min 19 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/360/

[tidal musk]

.... [19:51:42 WARN]: Error whilst handling query packet from /66.228.34.58:34418
io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.utils.FastException: No Session!

?

[strange brook]

please dont spam

[tidal musk]

Sorry

[solar kernel]

What new features does waterfall give

[tidal musk]

Performance improvements

[round pine]

What might cause this extra text in the console?

[kind karma]

some plugin

[round pine]

nvm, a restart fixed it, was prolly from attaching the session

[eternal cairn]

it isnt the messageraw at least, its changes were way too small to make a difference

[thorny ridge]

Build 360 seems to have fixed it

[eternal cairn]

#announcements & wrong channel

[round pine]

0

[low elk]

http://prntscr.com/taiikz use /glist

[tidal musk]

update

[woven stirrup]

ehi

so has waterfall been fixed

or does glist still not work?

[marble kelp]

it was updated, yes

[sturdy cloak]

Can we use &x&f&f&f&f&0&0 for yellow in MOTDs or do we need to use the weird \u00A7x\u00A7f\u00A7f\u00A7f\u00A7f\u00A70\u00A70 formatting for waterfall servers? I know with Paper servers it's the weird formatting, but I know waterfall supports codes like &b, not sure if it supports hex codes if done with &x

[hazy sigil]

Try it, I guess

if one fails do a find-replace with the other

[spiral crater]

so my server got attacked today, all different IP all tried to authenticate random non existing usernames at once, made travertine run out of memory and prevented other people from connecting afterward due to mojang limiting requests

any advice
edit: made github issue

[violet shard]

https://spark.lucko.me/#MemvA048iB

what is this lag come from 600% cpu usage, same when using latest waterfall too

[unreal stag]

BungeeTabListPlus is sucking up all the time on your Netty threads

Remove that plugin

[marble kelp]

P​ha​na​ti​cD​: fail2ban

or well, I guess that would only work to block the same IPs

[reef fulcrum]

don't think it would cover that too well

but, I already suggested the ultimate solution on gh

haproxy that shit

[marble kelp]

is there an event fired before the auth takes place with the username? if so one should be able to filter that with a plugin by relying on a list of known recent usernames and dropping the rest for the time of the attack

[reef fulcrum]

yup, added one other month

somebody then got bungee to add an event for it

(but, they ditched the async part so literally just block the worker...)

Yay md

woo

[marble kelp]

has an intend system

doesn't use it

[reef fulcrum]

I guess he maybe more saw it was a quick "nope" event

but, like, realistically, that event is tooo high up the chain to not be capable of moving off the worker thread

[marble kelp]

you mean the ClientConnectEvent? because that doesn't seem to contain the username? xD

[reef fulcrum]

yea

too early for the username, lol

[marble kelp]

well that would only work then to drop stuff by IP (which you could do as well with fail2ban so no improvement there)

[reef fulcrum]

general gist is that my stance is that doing this in the proxy in any capacity is just stupid

but, yea, for their needs, they don't care about name

if they wanna whitelist specific IPs, etc, glhf doing that efficently

Well, IPs easy, caring about the actual connectees identity, glhf

[marble kelp]

well using the PreLoginEvent to check usernames would work I guess

but simply whitelisting known IPs might be easier, lol

[reef fulcrum]

really, should just use software which has already solved this usecase

[marble kelp]

I wonder if one could write a fail2ban config which whitelists known IPs, lol

[reef fulcrum]

fail2ban ain't gonna help much with enough of an attack surface

well, source

getting a metric fuckton of IPs to direct a socket connection at something on the internet is really trivial if that's your business

[marble kelp]

well of course a hardware firewall would be better but not letting it reach the proxy server would be an improvement

[reef fulcrum]

haproxy

realistlcally, blackholing DC ranges is honestly often one of those "top of my list" type things whenever I've been attacked

[marble kelp]

wouldn't haproxy still have the same issues as any software firewall though?

[reef fulcrum]

try to keep the list low, but, as soon as some DC shows up a handful of times, i start going cidr crazy

haproxy supports proper load balancing

has means to let you configure how many connections can open so fast, has mechnisms to queue these connections back so you're not just hardassing if you hit 11 connections per second and your limit is 10, etc

Never actually used it, but, figured they'd have some stuff for it

So, gave a quick google and apparently they do \o/

[marble kelp]

well I know that it's nice but I bet it's out of the possibilities of smaller servers that just get hit by angry kids, lol

[reef fulcrum]

for those servers literally everything is out of the option

bar somebody creating a proxy plugin, etc

[lethal marten]

Is there any way to limit the waterfall version. So, if my server supports 1.16.1 only and have 1.15.2 clients and under see a red X on their side. Currently I have in waterfall.yml game_version set to 1.16.1 but older clients show as able to connect.

[marble kelp]

a plugin should be able to do that

[torn river]

Is there a way to sync a Whitelist across all Servers via Waterfall?

[marble kelp]

with plugins, sure

or just use a bungee whitelist plugin

[torn river]

Any recommendations?

[marble kelp]

I've used one before that is literally called BungeeWhitelist, dunno how good it is or which one (as I assume there are a couple ones that are named like that, lol)

[torn river]

Awesome thanks.

Also, my Waterfall console is spammed every second with InitialHandler has pinged is this normal?

[marble kelp]

yeah, that shows whenever someone pings the server e.g. from the server list

there should be a config option to disable these in the watefall.yml

[torn river]

I disabled it and the console is still being spammed with it

[marble kelp]

did you restart?

[tacit nacelle]

hello everyone I have a problem with #waterfall 360 can you help me? https://hasteb.in/ufeboyul.lua

[marble kelp]

something either sent a wrong packet or there's actually a bug

[tacit nacelle]

I only wanted to change the server, the bug does not appear all the time

[manic agate]

Same as @tacit nacelle
Edit: try turning off disable_entity_metadata_rewrite, not sure why but this seems to work for me

[tidal musk]

Hello. Is there any known issue / exploit that needs to be fixed with plugins on the latest version?

[marble kelp]

known to whom?

[tidal musk]

I heard that it's not hard to crash a Bungee server with a method. Flood or something. Is this true?

[marble kelp]

it's not hard to crash any server

put proper ddos protection/load balancing in front if you have issues with that

[tulip fossil]

Linking JARs in GitHub comments is probably considered spam, right? https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/issues/528#issuecomment-653684621

[marble kelp]

yeah, expecially when it's some shady "antibot" jar

[fathom prawn]

can someone point me to a waterfall/Travertine wiki if there is one ?

[tidal musk]

it says soemone is on the blacklist even thought they're not banned?

[spiral crater]

so uhhhh anyone have a haproxy config for that 👀

[hexed meadow]

i havent really looked into much about security for bungeecord, but would something like this be needed?

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bungeeguard.79601/

[tidal musk]

@hexed meadow if you can’t firewall off the backend servers yes

[hexed meadow]

ohh okay. i have my server's ports blocked so i should be good. thanks alexx

[tidal musk]

Np

[lavish pebble]

Does Waterfall support the new colors on the motd?

[marble kelp]

yeah

[delicate phoenix]

Hello!

I'm using citizens and commandnpc to allow my players to switch between servers.

But when I try to use the server servername command

it says I can't do that yet

[marble kelp]

the commands need to be executed on the bungeecord, not the paper server

you'll need to install some plugin to forward commands from the minecraft to the proxy server

[delicate phoenix]

It was worked before, now I updated waterfall and it doesnt

Well, that's strange, and I might have to use some server selector.

[marble kelp]

that's not really strange, that's just how it always worked

if it worked before for you then you had some plugin adding that command to your paper server

[delicate phoenix]

I enabled /server for a short amout of time to test it out

It doesn't work either

[marble kelp]

looks like it works?

[delicate phoenix]

it doesn't

I didn't get teleported

It's just automaticly disconnects me

[marble kelp]

that's an issue with your setup then, check if there was a connection attempt on the server you tried to connect to

if not then you have some kind of network issue/wrong ip/port

[delicate phoenix]

There are 0 connections in the other server

And 0 errors in bungee

Now it worked what the heck

[grim umbra]

Anyone?

I'm getting an error when I try running the batch file

[marble kelp]

?paste the error

Please paste all your code/errors/startup logs at http://hasteb.in/

[grim umbra]

https://hasteb.in/bilihihi.md

Can anyone help me?

:/

pls help

[unreal stag]

@grim umbra Your config.yml is busted, maybe paste it so we can help you fix the issue. Seems like a simple syntax error.

Also, begging for help... 10 and 20 minutes after your initial request for help isn't going to help you much

[grim umbra]

.. sorry

It worked fine now 🙂 I noticed that half the config file was gone.. thanks!

[tidal musk]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/d2174f5063ec4cba992090a786dee75f
Can I use [] to just ignore the groups, blockedcommands and permissions?

All of those things will be handled with plugins

[waxen sorrel]

How do I start developing for bungee/waterfall?

[serene tide]

As far as I'm aware that is a client issue.

So, when 1.16.2 comes out perhaps?

[tawdry elk]

What did i wrong?

[blazing lynx]

something to do with incompatible plugins/versions id say

[reef fulcrum]

skungee blew up something

[hollow iris]

Is it possible to move players to lobby server from another server which is stopping, using waterfall?

without additional plugins?

[kind karma]

see fallback servers

[reef fulcrum]

No, waterfall can't tell between a kick from a server stopping and a kick from a 'fuck off'

[marble kelp]

yeah, you need to either manually send them on server shutdown or parse the kick message

I personally just move all kicked players to the lobby server. and any "real" kick is handled directly on the bungee

[graceful nacelle]

uhhh,

can a piston power a piston?

[marble kelp]

looks at the channel name

[reef fulcrum]

stares harder

[marble kelp]

👀

[graceful nacelle]

wait sorry this is waterfall

I thought its paper

[next harbor]

Hello, if found the tutorial step "How To (Plugin Developers)" on the papermc github page. As java/maven newbie i got confused how to translate it to waterfall. Or i have to use the normal bungeecord API for waterfall?

[fast plover]

https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555462232209621003/725236341805416548

[next harbor]

Thx

[small kelp]

Would a RPI 3b+ be able to handle running a waterfall server?

Hoping to have 3 backend servers with about 25 players max between all servers

[reef fulcrum]

I don't think that we have native epoll on arm

for that many players, maybe? Defo not an ideal setup, but, should work

I would just shove it on the side of your existing setup, doesn't really use much in terms of resources

[small kelp]

my next question, how do you reboot a waterfall server without kicking all players offline. I assume you need to run two

but I know you cant move players from one waterfall server to another

[reef fulcrum]

Yes

Basically, you'd need to prevent new people connecting to the proxy you're planning to take out, and wait for players to bleed off

[small kelp]

is that a dns thing you need to configure then using something like haproxy

oh

[reef fulcrum]

haproxy is probs the more "managed" way to do it, never used it though

DNS works, but, I have doubts that you're in an env where that's super viable to do anyways

[small kelp]

I assume when you make the server restart, it sends a disconnect command to the player right?

so I cant just have it fail over to a different waterfall instance

[reef fulcrum]

it will kick players, yea

mc is too stateful for transparent switchovers to happen

[small kelp]

I assume big servers like hypixel dont use the bleed off way

any clue what they do?

[reef fulcrum]

they probs do

it's the easiest way to do it

[hearty coral]

do waterfall instances even need to be restarted?

[reef fulcrum]

not to mention that for deployment, rolling restarts are the norm

[hearty coral]

like, other than for maintenance and such

[reef fulcrum]

not really

[small kelp]

someone told me daily reboots for paper, and weekly for waterfall was normal

[reef fulcrum]

not ran a server in a good while, but not had daily restarts for muuuch longer

[small kelp]

isnt it used to eliminate bugs and stuff though?

[hearty coral]

mostly like clearing out leaked memory i guess

[reef fulcrum]

general gist is that it's more cruddy plugins than the server leaking

[small kelp]

multiple waterfalls can connect to the same paper server right?

[unreal stag]

yes

[spiral crater]

after updating travertine today I get this error with my "friend" plugin which has a lot of hover and click text: https://pastebin.com/raw/WWypVXVQ

is this a bug in bungee or whatever

or am I stuck with a outdated plugin that I dont have the source for again

[unreal stag]

there's been some messes related to hover events in bungeecord chat I believe

[royal hawk]

[unreal rose]

does Travertine and Waterfall working for 1.16?

[royal hawk]

Worked since the day 1.16 got released

[unreal rose]

strange man

i already updated my lobby to 1.16

yet it kept appearing this

@royal hawk

[royal hawk]

Duh

You need to update Waterfall/Travertine too

or do you think your bungee can magically support new versions that have never seen before?

[reef fulcrum]

That's coming down from a plugin, phanatic, invalid json? o.O

[river panther]

does anyone here know how I can use net.md_5.bungee.connection.InitialHandler? I'm not sure what dependency I'm missing

On a waterfall plugin

[reef fulcrum]

That's not API

(it's in -proxy)

[river panther]

would I add the proxy jar as a dependency?

or how do I use it

[reef fulcrum]

You'd need to build waterfall locally and add it like you'd add any other maven dep

[meager jackal]

Recently my servers stop displaying a global player list

Is there any reason as to why this is happening

[reef fulcrum]

best guess is make sure that you're not using ping_passthrough, and check plugins, etc

[meager jackal]

I can double check, but i'm pretty sure it is enabled

[reef fulcrum]

you don't want ping_passthrough if you want a global count in there

[meager jackal]

Oh, that makes sense. I recently had to reinstall my bungee server so i probably enabled it by accident

[rare hazel]

OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit_memory(0x00000000d5580000, 715653120, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate memory' (errno=12)

There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue.

Native memory allocation (mmap) failed to map 715653120 bytes for committing reserved memory.

An error report file with more information is saved as:

/home/desktop/server/Bungee/hs_err_pid14355.log

Si desea detener por completo el proceso del servidor ahora, presione Ctrl + C antes

help waterfall error

[reef fulcrum]

your server ran out of memory

[rare hazel]

Does 2 GB increase more?

while true
do
java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -d64 -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -jar Waterfall.jar -o false
echo "Si desea detener por completo el proceso del servidor ahora, presione Ctrl + C antes
Se acabó el tiempo"
echo "Reiniciando en:"
for i in 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
do
echo "$i..."
sleep 1
done
echo "Reiniciando ahora!"

[reef fulcrum]

your system as a whole ran out of memory

nothing to do with waterfall

[rare hazel]

thanks

[river panther]

is there a way to get a players last known server from a proxiedplayer object?

[reef fulcrum]

never reproduced that myself, but, that happens on bungee in general; It needs debugging, but, can't really debug something I can't reproduce, but, probs something to do with the networking stuff in the proxy

make sure that native epoll is working properly, etc

don't ping

check your logs, it will tell you if epoll is working

looks fine

[unreal stag]

@reef fulcrum he also posted on speg0t and I noted the presence of an old version of SkinsRestorer, that could be related

@tidal musk please update SkinsRestorer, I think that is causing the issue

ok, fair

yeah, BungeeCord has all sorts of "interesting" edge cases

you can try Velocity, maybe it works better

[reef fulcrum]

I have no idea what even causes it, tbqh

Back in 1.8, the guy I was doing stuff for at the time told me to get rid of it as he noticed that

For me, it was fine, but some people where apparently having issues where bungee was just slowing something down

personally, never been able to reproduce it, but, not the first time I've heard of it

version is irrelevant

It's more just a "that's how long this hell has been around in bungee"

profiling the proxy may potentially highlight something, but, really, not sure how to begin debugging stuff like that

[eternal cairn]

is there something im missing https://uwu.whats-th.is/5MmybyX.png

[strange brook]

nice edit

[eternal cairn]

thanks

and is papi even for bungee/waterfall at all

also can't figure out what the hell "per-bungee-group" is

[rough warren]

I suppose bungees permission groups

[reef fulcrum]

use a perm plugin, bungees built in system is trash

[rough warren]

^

[eternal cairn]

luckperms on velocity works great

in fact, luckperms works great on all platforms ive tried

[unreal stag]

@eternal cairn Well, there's no players online, so it's technically correct, albeit somewhat confusing if nobody is actually online lol

[eternal cairn]

well it does have glist so his statement is technically untrue and thats all i was going for 😎