waterfall-help

[reef fulcrum]

e.g. you just get the control panel

[half quiver]

it is mhm

[reef fulcrum]

Yea, your hosting provider went full moron then apparently

[half quiver]

oh lmfao

[reef fulcrum]

it will only download the modules if the proxy was updated

[half quiver]

what should my host have done?

(I need to know so I can tell him lol)

[reef fulcrum]

Not modified the jar

[half quiver]

ah

[reef fulcrum]

Trick on *nix is that you can rm' them and programs will still have the handle to the older version

[half quiver]

alrighty

well I will let him know xd

ty

[tidal musk]

your hosting provider should at most rename the file

not remove it

mv server.jar old-server.jar

and copy new to server.jar

[reef fulcrum]

Tbqh, auto upgrading jars on people is a really bad practice

[tidal musk]

well yes, but

the solution i described is a lot safer

[reef fulcrum]

works all the same ;P

[tidal musk]

jvm mmaps the jar usually, renaming keeps the mapping in place

while deleting unlinks data, and once something else wants to write data on fs and happens to overwrite that unlinked area

then guess what happens

💥

[reef fulcrum]

Never had any issues with it, the disk is also still considered used until the last handle of that file is closed, so I'd imagine nothing can mangle the data in that file

[marble kelp]

Project Travertine build #136: SUCCESS in 1 min 25 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Travertine/136/

[reef fulcrum]

🤷‍♂️

[tidal musk]

mnyeah, that gets into impl detail

[tidal musk]

Could the use of a Disks HDD affect the performance of a BungeeCord?

[marble kelp]

very unlikely

[tidal musk]

So will the performance of a BungeeCord be affected depending on the ram and the processor alone?

[marble kelp]

yes, and network speed obviously

[tidal musk]

I'm using Travertine on a Xeon but this xeon is HDD but I don't know what will be affecting the performance, I already tried without plugins and it remains the same

Intel Xeon E3-1245v2 4c/8t 3.4GHz /3.8GHz 32GB DDR3 1333 MHz

I still have another dedicated with these characteristics, but I don't know if it will be better or equal in terms of bungeecord performance

Intel i7-6700K 4c/8t 4GHz /4.2GHz 64GB DDR4 2400MHz

[marble kelp]

what issues are you actually seeing?

[lime breach]

Are you reserving a whole dedi just for BungeeCord

[tidal musk]

My BungeeCord is consuming more than 300% with only 400 players on the Xeon server, and when it exceeds that number of people the server begins to have lag spikes

Are you reserving a whole dedi just for BungeeCord
@lime breach No

In that same dedicated I use my servers Lobbies

[marble kelp]

I mean, if you give it CPU it's obviously gonna use it

you can run spark on bungee iirc so maybe test that?

[lime breach]

7gb for waterfall

[tidal musk]

Before I had it in my other dedicated i7 and it did not get that bad performance, but I want to know what is affecting if it is truly dedicated or something else

7gb for waterfall
@lime breach
I uploaded it today to know if it was that and nothing

Before I only used 1G

I was uploading it little by little

[tidal musk]

hey @twin solstice

[twin solstice]

yes.

[tidal musk]

like i said

soon ™️

[twin solstice]

that is very hot pls ping me when it's live

[tidal musk]

mfw thought this was #general

[twin solstice]

it's so beautiful

[tardy shadow]

Why do I keep getting this error

Its not letting him connect to the server via proxy but joining the server works fine

@reef fulcrum

[twin solstice]

don't tag project developers for no reason

[tardy shadow]

It is a reason, support 😛

[twin solstice]

that's not a valid reason

[tardy shadow]

*

[twin solstice]

support is provided on voluntary basis and there's likely no issue with waterfall itself

timed outs are usually related to your network or misconfiguration

[tardy shadow]

I assume they would of had this issue before so they probably know how to fix it 🙂

Proxy is running on 25565 which ports are open for

and thE MC server itself is working because I connect via the actual IP

So no idea why the bridging itself isn't work

[calm ether]

Your proxy could not contact your backend server

[tardy shadow]

so how d o I fix that

bnecause proxy is running and backend is running and connectable

[junior narwhal]

Hello! What do you guys use or recomend for global (or cross server) chat for bungee/waterfall ?

[sharp dagger]

Why does this happen?

[tepid portal]

@junior narwhal Chatty has most likely everything you would need

It's not pure bungeecord though, you have to install it on backend servers as well

[kind karma]

Chatty is kinda hacky

[junior narwhal]

@tepid portal Thanks for the recommendation! @kind karma do you have any other recommendations?

[kind karma]

depends on what you need

[tepid portal]

I have been using BungeeChat2 in the past

But since I wanted chat format with hovers and placeholders, I moved to Chatty

[hazy quarry]

Is anyone aware if it's possible to use Waterfall to connect snapshot versions of minecraft? I have gotten different versions of snapshot servers and wish to run them thru waterfall.

[kind karma]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Travertine/pull/120

https://github.com/Xernium/Travertine

[hazy quarry]

Ooh nice

[hazy quarry]

Anyone what this message could mean?

Exception Connecting:QuietException : Unexpected packet received during server login process!
1bc7017b22747261........

[covert portal]

That you most likely forgot to patch the vanilla server jar with VanillaCord.

[tidal musk]

Fabric + FabricProxy is better

[hazy quarry]

@tidal musk works that with servers of snapshot versions?

[tidal musk]

yes

[dapper stag]

is there any good ddos protection on waterfall?

open source

[marble kelp]

ddos protection on a proxy server is pointless

[dapper stag]

why?

[marble kelp]

you want your host or a service like tcpshield to filter that out

[dapper stag]

on the proxy to most effectively stop the bots before they reach the main server

[marble kelp]

minecraft bots isn't what you usually understand under the term ddos...

[reef fulcrum]

There are anti bot plugins

egg82 has one which works well

actual DDoS attacks, the proxy is far too late in the pipeline to be useful

[violet radish]

also

if I want to use waterfall, what versions does it support to join with?

wanna use it for my hub

[reef fulcrum]

1.8-1.15.2

[violet radish]

oo niceee

latest waterfall??

[reef fulcrum]

Yes

it is just a proxy, however

[violet radish]

eyyy thanks

1.8.8 right?

[reef fulcrum]

won't allow people to connect with different version on its own

You'd need something like ViaVersion for that mess

[violet radish]

oki

so I use

waterfall with the viaversion plugin?

right?

wait

how about travertine?

if i wanna make a regular mc server with hub and stuff, which should i choose?

travertine or waterfall?

imma do waterfall

[marble kelp]

it'do you want 1.7 support? then use travertine

[violet radish]

true xD

[hallow echo]

Hello !

Do you have a "wiki" like paper to know how co config well the config.yml ? (like for the option network_compression_threshold:) 😄

[lime breach]

maybe the bungeeCord documentation?

[hallow echo]

Nothing about network_compression_threshold 🙂

[reef fulcrum]

Does the same thing as it does on the vanilla server

[violet radish]

How can I connect my waterfall ("hub" server) to the other papermc servers?

[reef fulcrum]

I'd suggest reading the bungee install guide

[violet radish]

oki

what should I change/remove in java -Xms6G -Xmx9G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=8 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -jar Waterfall.jar for it to work with waterfall?

or does this also work?

[reef fulcrum]

check the pins

[violet radish]

oh oki ty

[lime breach]

woooah 6-9G for a proxy?

[barren portal]

Hi, I'm having an issue where after sometime running the Waterfall proxy, when executing /glist, in the list for my servers I will see duplicate player names, that aren't even always on the servers displayed.

The times I see it occur the most often is after stopping a PaperSpigot server instance on the proxy. I have updated to the latest version of Waterfall, and the issue still persists.

If anyone has any ideas for why this may be happening, or would like to more know about my setup, please ping me, thanks

[blazing kraken]

is there a way to change the message Kicked whilst connecting to {server}: reason

[rough warren]

probably the messages fle inside the jar contains that string

[blazing kraken]

but no lang file

ill have to do it

then compile right

[rough warren]

the lang file should be inside the jar, yes

its a properties file

[lyric shard]

after i rebuild the waterfall with old netty version

the exception changed to

[00:29:38 WARN]: [/x:x|guobang] -> UpstreamBridge - NativeIoException: syscall:read(..) failed: Connection reset by peer
[00:29:38 INFO]: [guobang] disconnected with: NativeIoException : syscall:read(..) failed: Connection reset by peer @ io.netty.channel.unix.FileDescriptor:-1

[tidal musk]

no the properties file don't need to be repacked

you can put it into the same directory and it'll be used instead

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/blob/master/proxy/src/main/java/net/md_5/bungee/BungeeCord.java#L541

[rough warren]

oh i thought he was asking where the file was

[round quartz]

Does setting up WaterFall include the same steps as Bungeecord?

[calm ether]

Yes

[round quartz]

So I just followed a tutorial step-by-step, but then it said this , but on the youtuber's screen it was working

[calm ether]

I can't read

But looks like a config issue

[round quartz]

It said that aswell, but I followed the tutorial exactly

[calm ether]

.g paste

[marble kelp]

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[calm ether]

Oups

.paste

[marble kelp]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[calm ether]

Paste here

[round quartz]

okay

[calm ether]

Check the spaces on the line it tells you a problem

[round quartz]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/8e50976cf0a244f5be139e0716c0f1e7

[calm ether]

My memories tells me yaml is quite strict with spaces/tabs

[kind karma]

paste your configuration, don't forget to remove server addresses

nvm

it's localhost.

[round quartz]

yeah

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/1c27f4f76ad24bfa830c23b5c705ab94

[kind karma]

regenerating config does not help?

you have 3 spaces

not two

[round quartz]

oh

[calm ether]

yeah, was a good memory

[round quartz]

trying again

ok it works

thank you

[kind karma]

yw

[round quartz]

How do I op on every server at once instead of one by one?

[kind karma]

op @a

and that's a wrong channel

use #paper-help

[round quartz]

like I want to op myself on Lobby and Survival

Not op everyone

[lime breach]

I do that with luckperms

[kind karma]

you can't do that without plugins

[round quartz]

okay

thanks

[kind karma]

luckperms has trash codebase

[lime breach]

?

[kind karma]

at least work with mysql was done horribly

[lime breach]

there's nothing else to be honest

do you want to use PermissionsX?

[kind karma]

we use self-written system

client <---> core server <----> microservices <----> other clients

[tidal musk]

huh

ah

[round quartz]

I can't understand basically any of this. I just want to create a small network kind-of thing for some Estonians

[kind karma]

well, stick with LuckPerms then

[tidal musk]

some estonians?

[round quartz]

yeah, just a small estonian server

[tidal musk]

yet another community bs or that building contest thingy?

[round quartz]

nah just like a regular network server

[tidal musk]

oh well lol

[round quartz]

don't really have those here

[tidal musk]

regular ones? there are like

more than 5

[round quartz]

Don't have many

[tidal musk]

i used to work for top 1 one

[round quartz]

Wait.. Are you also Estonian, then?

[tidal musk]

correct

[round quartz]

oh your name did seem estonian

[plucky smelt]

hea töö mees

[tidal musk]

xd

[round quartz]

okay let's not get off topic and in another language, okay?

[tidal musk]

very wise idea

now i'm interested tbh, what server?

WildlakeMC is fresh name what i spotted

is private and has 1 player online

[plucky smelt]

kännukas here lol

[round quartz]

Nope. I haven't even hosted it anywhere

[plucky smelt]

what do you want help with

[round quartz]

well I've got it now, so why am I getting off-topic

[tidal musk]

if you need introduction into this lil country's community then hmu

there are some (or bunch of) caveats

[plucky smelt]

hoia pamest eemale lmao

[round quartz]

I am Estonian, born and raised

[tidal musk]

edited :)

[round quartz]

oh

nvm

[sharp dagger]

1gb of ram is not enough? proxy just timed out all players for no reason

[reef fulcrum]

timed out generally screams connection type issues, not ram

Also, use a paste site if you want people to look at stuff

I only just cleaned my downloads folder out of all the crap

[sharp dagger]

lol

ok

so it's connection type issue?

because it's too frequent for me

[reef fulcrum]

generally, yes

the timeout is like 30 seconds

am pretty sure you'd notice if your proxy stopped reponding for long enough for it to induce timeouts

[sharp dagger]

this one is connection issue too?

[reef fulcrum]

Don't screenshot shit

[sharp dagger]

for no reason the proxy just shutdown

[reef fulcrum]

You're likely missing the actual important info in there

e.g. why it failed to write to the file

[sharp dagger]

wait

holy shit i couldn't find any errors

but sometimes proxy just freeze for no reason...

[reef fulcrum]

"freezes"

and, how does it unfreeze? how are you hosting the server?

[hallow echo]

Hello,

Is
[2LS] ExploitFixer - Professional Server AntiExploit useful with waterfall ?

or all exploit are already fixed

[reef fulcrum]

that's still relevant for paper

I mean, waterfall

We have some changes which improve the situation, and stuff is pending in the pipeline, but some more hardcore protections are not really viable for waterfall

[marble kelp]

I mean that particular plugin is advertising a copyright violating fork of bungee so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

might even be travertine

[hallow echo]

so do you now any good plugin to fix any exploit between paper/waterfall ? ^^

[marble kelp]

you can't fix all exploits, simply because nobody knows all of them...

you are going to have to be more specific what exactly your issues is that you want to prevent

that plugin in question might prevent them but ideally you do your own research (at least the plugin's code is open source after all)

[hallow echo]

No but most of all that are known and not fixed *

[kind karma]

i'm still asking if devs would like to take changes I made from my personal fork

[tidal musk]

pr them

[kind karma]

because I'm too lazy to merge it with Waterfall

Its almost impossible D:

my fork's codebase is heavily modified

[tidal musk]

diff current waterfall against yours, grab the giga diff

and start extracting

[kind karma]

No server map, packet handling is changed, most of packets are removed, keep alive mechanism changed

and so on

I can just make it open source

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tidal musk]

do it

[kind karma]

https://github.com/cristalixreloaded/Waterfall

[tidal musk]

ok give me about 1h, i'll do the easy part

need to visit store before it gets closef

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #340: SUCCESS in 3 min 7 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/340/

[violet radish]

when i try join the server

I get "server is online mode"

even tho I can join other servers completely fine + I got a paid mc acc lol

[reef fulcrum]

the backend servers need to be in offline mode

[violet radish]

ohh

but why?

[reef fulcrum]

because the proxy needs to deal with the auth

Would be pretty shitty if mojang made it easy to MITM a connection

[violet radish]

ah oki

and in my "servers" that my hub connects to do I change settings.bungeecord to true too, right?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[violet radish]

ok nice

[violet radish]

i get

even tho ip_forward: true is enabled

[kind karma]

it says what to do

[zinc sapphire]

think it can also say that if you connect to the backend directly instead of through the proxy

because the additional forwarding info isnt there

[violet radish]

fixed that, thanks xD

now I get

nvm

forgot to start my hub

soo all set

yay

[violet radish]

how can I make waterfall pick to display the lobby server's motd?

set it to ""?

nevermind xD

anyone know good/useful waterfall plugins/modules?

[kind karma]

@tidal musk how is the progress

[tidal musk]

0

forgot

https://paste.gg/p/mikroskeem/721bec5e9b9c4fcc929a854bb025e966

[marble kelp]

what a diff

[violet radish]

can I add a papermc plugin which I made to waterfall? and would i still work and work on all the servers its connected to?

example - essentials or a custom advanced ban plugin I made?

[kind karma]

wdym

[serene tide]

No, Paper plugins do not work on Waterfall.

[kind karma]

^

[violet radish]

oh okay, how do I make a bungee/waterfall plugin?

[violet radish]

or any wikis or things?

[reef fulcrum]

the spigot wiki has a section about bungee plugin dev

[violet radish]

oki

[hallow echo]

hello,
Does waterfall fix "netty exploits" issues ?

[unreal stag]

The major ones are handled

The handling can be improved though

[meager jackal]

Is the latest version of waterfall made for 1.15.2?

[unreal stag]

yes

[sharp dagger]

and, how does it unfreeze? how are you hosting the server?
@reef fulcrum
I just restart the server and it will unfreeze again.
My hosting is pretty good:
OVH > Public Bandwidth - 1 Gbit/s
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X - 8c/ 16t - 3.9GHz/ 4.5GHz

it's just the proxy and it might be a problem with my config

or the plugins i'm using

and that's all i'm using:

[blazing spruce]

can i set up a server that contains two worlds?

one paper 1.15.2 and the other forge whatever version (or any other kind of modded server)?

[blazing spruce]

are there any tutorials at all on waterfall?

ive been struggling to find one, i only find bungeecord's

[severe zodiac]

I have a problem. I've been using Bungee-Cord for MC1.15 for some time. I wanted to switch over to Waterfall. From what I know, it should be as simple as replacing the .jar file. But when I do replace them, I get this error (shown in latestlog). Note that Bungee-Cord works perfectly fine before. I've messed around with the config, server.properties, and still can't figure it out. When I change the .jar back to Bungee-cord, everything works again. It just makes no sense. Help! 😭

Waterfall ver #340. All other servers are running paper #213

[reef fulcrum]

.paste

[marble kelp]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[reef fulcrum]

The bungee instructions work just fine for waterfall

[kind karma]

change your host in config to 0.0.0.0

[reef fulcrum]

there are some quirks around forge and proxies in general, e.g. if you have mods on the server which require client side mods, you'll have issues due to the handshake not having been done with the client

[severe zodiac]

change your host in config to 0.0.0.0
@kind karma done that multiple times. still nothing.

also am using shockbyte as host if thats any relevance

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/37760d36540745b39656916323a58ba1

[reef fulcrum]

io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: bind(..) failed: Cannot assign requested address

That basically means that that IP address isn't valid

You'd need to speak to your hosting provider about that one, if shoving 0.0.0.0 in there doesn't fix it as it's replaced especially so

[severe zodiac]

welp.. guess so. Though its really weird because with the Bungee.jar, it works, but not with Waterfall.

[copper plank]

hi can i get some help on how to install waterfall for 1.8.9?

plz anyone help me

please help

[tidal musk]

just install latest waterfall

and you're good to go

[round ocean]

[lime breach]

Nah waterfall supports 1.8 sadly

[copper plank]

eyy i found it

[marsh robin]

.flags

[marble kelp]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[half quiver]

for a bungee cord network, how do I whitelist my bungee cord proxy? please @ me

[marble kelp]

you need a plugin if you want a whitelist on your bungeecord

[inner topaz]

such as onlyproxyjoin

[tidal musk]

onlyproxyjoin is shit

use BungeeGuard

[tender axle]

Anyone know what startup flags to use for Waterfall?

I know what flags to use for paper, dunno what to use for Waterfall.

[marble kelp]

just make sure you use G1GC

[bitter lark]

y, just G1GC is good for GanjaCord

[reef fulcrum]

points to the pins

[tender axle]

Cheers!

[marble kelp]

.pins

:/ not forwarding them to IRC

[tender axle]

Uhhhhh how much ram should i give waterfall? I know my way around Paper, but this is my first time with waterfall.

[reef fulcrum]

512M is generally more than plenty

[marble kelp]

500 + 100MB per additional 100 players over 500

(varies with plugins I guess)

[tender axle]

Thank you, once again!

How do you exit/stop waterfall other than exiting shell?

[marble kelp]

execute the end command

[tender axle]

Thanks!

Does Waterfall have docs? I can't find them.

[tidal musk]

19:45:55 [SEVERE] Apr 25, 2020 7:45:55 PM io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor runAllTasks
WARNING: A task raised an exception.
java.util.NoSuchElementException: compress
at io.netty.channel.DefaultChannelPipeline.getContextOrDie(DefaultChannelPipeline.java:966)
at io.netty.channel.DefaultChannelPipeline.remove(DefaultChannelPipeline.java:305)
at net.md_5.bungee.netty.ChannelWrapper.setCompressionThreshold(ChannelWrapper.java:88)
at net.md_5.bungee.UserConnection.setCompressionThreshold(UserConnection.java:589)
at net.md_5.bungee.connection.InitialHandler$6$1.run(InitialHandler.java:478)
at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:358)
at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.run(EpollEventLoop.java:259)
at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$2.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:112)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)

Its stuck on logging in... when i try to join through 1.8 but doesn't with the version 1.7.10. There's an error in the bungeecord console

[sweet egret]

Anyone here good with the bungee API? How do I stop the waterfall server. I have a custom plugin that uses the MYSQL Connector and I would like to stop the server if MYSQL Connector fails to connect to the MYSQL Server.

getProxy().stop(); // Does not work
ProxyServer.getInstance().stop(); // Does not work

Nevermind I am stupid it works

[rose tusk]

Does waterfall fix nullpinging

[unreal stag]

@rose tusk As of the latest build, nullping is mostly mitigated - it doesn't have nearly as much of an impact. The mitigation can be improved, though.

It still causes a major CPU spike, but it's something like a 5-fold reduction from where it was (easily saturates a typical 4-core CPU)

[lyric shard]

full stack of NativeIoException

@reef fulcrum

is it a netty issue

[kind karma]

@lyric shard it literally says the reason

Address already in use

[lyric shard]

oh

is just that?

no

or i wont come here

Address already in use

which address

why sometimes it works well

sometimes it show this exception

[kind karma]

because you already have bungeecord instance running on the address you set in config.yml

or any other software bound to this address

[lyric shard]

i can connect to the server in most time

[kind karma]

oh wait

[lyric shard]

is it was in use

which is in use

idk

[kind karma]

can you tell when this exception occur

@tidal musk progress?

[lyric shard]

switching server

[somber geode]

Is there a way to restrict waterfall to 1.15.2 only? R now players can still try to connect with older clients and instead of getting something like "Outdated client" message they just see "Could not connect to lobby server" instead 🤔

[marble kelp]

afaik the modern server should kick with a message telling to use a modern client?

but there is a game_version setting in the waterfall.yml but I don't that will block clients from joining

[reef fulcrum]

That's just what shows in the client when there is a proto mismatch

You'd basically need a plugin for that

[somber geode]

I see, I'll try to figure this out. Thanks for the help!

[prisma coyote]

Is there any YouTube tutorial for waterfall? Because when i search waterfall i get real life waterfalls😂

[violet radish]

I host at contabo, and I sometimes experience lagg when placing blocks, could it be due to plugins, or waterfall? cuz didnt have those issues before I added waterfall, I have allocated 1gb for waterfall, is it good eough?

or could it be because I use the voidworld plugin?

[unreal stag]

@violet radish 99% chance it’s because you host at Contabo

[violet radish]

contabo is bad?

[marble kelp]

j​ar​no​bo​y4​04​: just follow the bungee installation instructions

[unreal stag]

Yes it’s bad

[twin cedar]

I am running bungeecord help, if you know a thing or two or have set one up plz dm me or something. Thanks 😄

[unreal stag]

@twin cedar please ask your question here, also this is Waterfall support

[twin cedar]

I know but I dont know where else to get bungeecord help

But my question is involved, can I dm you?

[unreal stag]

https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/bungeecord-help.70/

Ask it here

[twin cedar]

ok

What am I doing wrong?

I can send any other information if needed too

[unreal stag]

Check if you already have a server listening on port 25565

Also, it seems you changed the IP your server is bound on, use 0.0.0.0 instead - using your own IP isn't going to work because you have NAT

[twin cedar]

This is the .properties of the only other open server

when i changed it to 0.0.0.0

[unreal stag]

Well, you'll need to check to see if you have a server listening on port 25565

[twin cedar]

I dont have any other servers

[unreal stag]

no

[reef fulcrum]

are you using a server panel or something?

[unreal stag]

check explicitly with something like https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-check-if-port-is-in-use-command/

[reef fulcrum]

cannot assign requested address means that that IP address is not available on that machine, the other one is because something was already using 25565

[unreal stag]

anyway, this is not BungeeCord support, you should really be using Velocity or Waterfall to be honest

[gloomy willow]

Hey, so I'm having an issue where spectators can't tp to other players using the hotbar. I've removed all plugins and datapacks, and the problem is still occurring. The weird thing is, it only occurs when connecting with our Waterfall server, not when joining the server directly. Does anyone have any ideas?

[marble kelp]

are you using a global tab list plugin?

[gloomy willow]

Nope

[gloomy sundial]

what does it mean when someone tries to join but disconnects with "No client connected for pending server!"
does that mean they're using a cracked client or something

[reef fulcrum]

that means that they lost connection

[gloomy sundial]

it was weird cuz it didn't say they joined/left with the proxy global message but the server itself realized they joined for a sec

they must've cancelled right as they joined or somethin idk

[kind karma]

you can't do that with paper either

[zealous grail]

Is it pointless to have double bungee? i want to have the main bungee with just my custom antibot bungee jar and no plugins and the second one with all the plugins i need for bungee. Because plugins can crash the bungee during a bot attack, will it be okey / possible for players to pass thru two bungees?

[kind karma]

not worth it

[zealous grail]

thanks xDark

[unreal stag]

doing a double Bungee is pointless, since if you get an attack everyone will disconnect from the Bungee under siege

[brave kayak]

hello i have problem with waterfall its lagging and crashing cause of out of memory exception even if i give 4 GB ram to it
i installed plugin - [2LS] ExploitFixer
and want to install https://www.2l-studios.com/flamecord/ but this link doesnt work
I think someone is attacking my server with an exploit or something like that.
could u help me?

also when its start laggin and waterfall stuck its using 90% of my 8 core i7 cpu ;/

my plugins on waterfall:

[unreal stag]

Flamecord does stupid shit

@brave kayak I'd recommend removing all your bungee plugins and updating Waterfall. Getting an OutOfMemoryException is a sign you have a bad plugin that's leaking memory.

[brave kayak]

i have newest version of waterfall

and this s** happen even when i remove all plugins

[dusky sedge]

^ could be something related to scoreboards not being cleared good on the servers behind them for no collision stuff, or is that not a thing anymore Tux? plugin was named noPush or something we then had bungee with 8gb and still crashing then i took some heapdump and found a mother load of scoreboard instances that came from servers behind it

[toxic goblet]

Is there any way to display instead of "left the server" "<player> moved to the survival server" or something like that?

[marble kelp]

with a plugin, sure

[reef fulcrum]

if you're hitting an OOM, you'd need a heap dump

But, we're not gonna provide support for a random fork here, many of those forks do stupid things which induce their own issues

plugins like SkinRestorer are also literally known to be full of stupid issues

[stable granite]

hi i have a problem with my waterfall server. after 2 hours of uptime i need to restart it because the pings are getting really high on all the players. server has 1Gbit connection and i have already tested it. on that side everything is fine. maybe somebody has an idea? thanks in advance

[reef fulcrum]

literally never heard of that one

best I've got is hook up a profiler and see what's going on

[stable granite]

and how do i do that?

[tidal musk]

smells like memory leak from one of your plugins

or extremely small heap set for your proxy

[reef fulcrum]

you basically need to be a dedi/vps to do it, and "how" depends on the tools you're using, etc

visualvm is bundled with the jdk, you'd need to look into remote attaching probably

[stable granite]

ok i'll try that

this was this morning....

[marble kelp]

have you heard of the screenshot button?

[stable granite]

one of my team members sent me this

i wasn't at home

[marble kelp]

well has he?

[reef fulcrum]

screenshot doesn't really tell us anything either

[stable granite]

i know but only giving you an idea of online players and pings

[reef fulcrum]

Only real thing which stands out is that there are people who are perfectly fine

But, beyond that, we need more info

[marble kelp]

it's not new that sometimes some ISPs have connection problems to certain datacenteres

[stable granite]

I run the latest waterfall version (1.15.2 - 340) the proxy has 1gb of memory i only have a few plugins running: bungeechat, luckperms and tab-reborn

[violet radish]

Yeah, I notice ping issues too sometimes

[rotund olive]

weird issue with BCTLP

I'm making changes to the default.yml...and nothing is changing

I'm also not getting any errors

[tender axle]

Hey can someone help me with setting up waterfall?

I wanted to know what these do in config.yml:

  proxy_protocol: false
prevent_proxy_connections: false
log_pings: true```

[tidal musk]

query_enabled enables GS4 query protocol; usually a thing what you don't want to enable

proxy_protocol makes sense if you do load balancing with an additional proxy, such as nginx or haproxy

log_pings option toggles whether you see players/server listing sites pinging your proxy or not

[tender axle]

Thanks! So should i keep log_pings on? cause i wanna continue advertising on server listing sites, and im anyways using ufw to block server ports.

[tidal musk]

turning log_pings off does not prevent the proxy from showing up in server listing sites

it simply turns off the log messages of them

[tender axle]

OHHHH you mean it will log say ping server.url command from cmd.

That clears it up.

Thanks!

[tidal musk]

no

not that ping

the ping utility you'd use from CMD/whatever uses ICMP packets; nothing to do with minecraft

.g bungeecord github

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord -- SpigotMC/BungeeCord: BungeeCord, the 6th in a ... - GitHub: "BungeeCord, the 6th in a generation of server portal suites. Efficiently proxies and maintains connections and transport between multiple Minecraft..."

[tidal musk]

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/blob/7bd8a0276c20b853fe6e6aef2df905b7ee1629aa/proxy/src/main/java/net/md_5/bungee/connection/InitialHandler.java#L323

it'll disable those messages

[tidal musk]

Is it possible to send a message to joining player in PostLoginEvent?

as in event.getPlayer().sendMessage... ?

[kind karma]

Client will probably not see it

[amber root]

When some players try join my forge modded server they get "disconnected" and a message saying server was closed and they were sent to the fallback server bu hen other players are able to get through without issue

any ideas how to fix this?

https://i.imgur.com/XpLjj3b.png error in console

[kind karma]

that's not a full error

@amber root

or it is

[amber root]

it is

[thorny ridge]

Have a few issues with the latest Waterfall builds
https://i.imgur.com/RjuzBxj.png
Is this intentional or a bug?

[grave wedge]

Plugin uses some internals from what i can see. Non API methods are never supported.

[lime breach]

why does Waterfall\BungeeCord have some native classes

written in what seems to me C++

[lime breach]

ohh I didn't even know myself one could call C/C++ from Java using the JNI.
I guess I've learnt something new

[thorny ridge]

https://i.imgur.com/31mStNa.png
This didn't occur about 20 builds ago and is happening with more than one of my Bungee plugins with the same error.
I doubt different plugins from different devs are using the same custom methods.

[zinc sapphire]

Don't use internals and they won't break

use internals, you take that risk

that's all there is to it

[grave wedge]

If multiple plugin fails with same error it just means that they used same internals.

Without any reeason for doing this ofc. Because why do you even need this field, when you can register events using API?

[tidal musk]

api is boring

imagine programming safely and not shooting yourself into foot every 0.1 milliseconds

[grave wedge]

Hey, that's what C++ programming is, and seems that many people like this.

[tidal musk]

sounds like stockholm syndrome

[echo sandal]

Does waterfall support having the hub (default) server in vanilla MC but then a server they can go to being modded?

[reef fulcrum]

Not really

You would need to get the vanilla server to induce a forge handshake so we can get all that info

Shamefully, there is no real way that I'm aware of to get the client to actually re-induce the connection

I was speaking to lex about a fair chunk of this stuff in the past, no idea where it went

[echo sandal]

Hmm, Thats a shame. I use to know a few servers that did it and was interested in build one, I know the modded client can go on vanilla fine but its then moving that session over to the modded server, it would need to check the client for all updated mods etc, nothing i have found does this probably anymore 😦 Probably a rather hard thing to do, I couldnt do it 😄

[reef fulcrum]

there are tricks, e.g. get some plugin on a server which actually performs the handshake so that it can deal with it

tbqh, mods and a proxy in general are shaky, we put a lot of effort into it, but the entire ecosystem is hell

[echo sandal]

Hmm, yeah. What would be the best way to do that in your opinion? is it better just to have two separate servers?

[reef fulcrum]

shamefully, yea

[echo sandal]

Cool, thanks for the advise 🙂

[marble kelp]

directly connecting modded clients to the modded server instead of going through a lobby or going through a lobby with all the mods installed tends to be the most common solution if you want to allow both vanilla and one mod pack on the same network

[pulsar dune]

Can waterfall handle it to: switching players from my synology-nas-minecraftserver, to another server when this server is online, but as soon as it shut down all players should switch back to the synology-server. ?? asked the same question in paper-help, i dont know if this makes a difference......

[marble kelp]

you'd need a plugin and somewhere the waterfall can run 24/7 on but sure

[pulsar dune]

on the synoloy it runs 24/7

[marble kelp]

you basically have both servers behind the waterfall proxy and everyone connecting through the proxy, then have a plugin detect when your PC server is online and connect everyone to that

[pulsar dune]

and the world would be synced?

[marble kelp]

no

you would have to add some program to copy that automatically

[pulsar dune]

hmm..okay thanks

[spring pilot]

I am looking for the maven depencies for waterdfall, or do i just use the bungeecord ones?

I also did it with building a jar and adding to to the project, but i want to use maven instead

[marble kelp]

just get it from the pom

https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/blob/master/BungeeCord-Patches/0001-POM-Changes.patch

[spring pilot]

Yeah ii was looking in there but i could not get any info out of it

[zinc sapphire]

<dependency>
  <groupId>io.github.waterfallmc</groupId>
  <artifactId>waterfall-api</artifactId>
  <version>1.15-SNAPSHOT</version>
</dependency>

can search the papermc repo and find it as well if its easier

[spring pilot]

What do you mean?

[spring pilot]

Ahh Thanks!

Waht is the repository link i use with this tho? I am currently using this, but it doesnt work:

        <repository>
            <id>maven-snapshots</id>
            <url>https://papermc.io/repo/repository/maven-releases/</url>
        </repository>

[zinc sapphire]

well the id says maven-snapshots

but the url says maven-releases

afaik waterfall publishes to snapshots

because lol actual releases

so just change the url to end in maven-snapshots and you should be alright

[spring pilot]

damn

thanks

[buoyant spindle]

Hi! I have 8900 Pause Full in my 20 days WaterFall GC log. Is it normal? Everything works fine. 120-150 players. I allocated 512MB to waterfall.

[timber saddle]

Where is the best of Waterfall/Bungeecord Anti Bot Plugin ?

[cold notch]

Where. Prob on spigot or github

[loud tendon]

Guys

Is there anyway to send players to lobby when a server is restarting?

I mean, instead of says "server closed" in the mc screen

[reef fulcrum]

use a plugin like MoveMeNow

[loud tendon]

Im using it, but wont work

it only need to be on the waterfull right?

[reef fulcrum]

No, it's a bukkit plugin..

[loud tendon]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/movemenow.17/

this?

[reef fulcrum]

there was one by another dude with the same name

No idea if that one specifically works

I know the one made by lax was slated to have worked fine 🤷

[loud tendon]

do u have the link?

i cant find

[lime breach]

There was a good plugin for that

but the author was retarted and somehow didn't support Paper servers

[hushed aurora]

I builded my Waterfall.jar and got this error: ```[ERROR] The projects in the reactor contain a cyclic reference: Edge between 'Vertex{label='io.github.waterfallmc:waterfall-proxy:1.15-SNAPSHOT'}' and 'Vertex{label='io.github.waterfallmc:waterfall-api:1.15-SNAPSHOT'}' introduces to cycle in the graph io.github.waterfallmc:waterfall-api:1.15-SNAPSHOT --> io.github.waterfallmc:waterfall-protocol:1.15-SNAPSHOT --> io.github.waterfallmc:waterfall-proxy:1.15-SNAPSHOT --> io.github.waterfallmc:waterfall-api:1.15-SNAPSHOT @

[reef fulcrum]

It literally tells you

You have a cyclic reference between two different modules, which is 100% invalid

[hushed aurora]

je but when i remove some dependencys i got a another error

[reef fulcrum]

You basically need to design around that

No other way

[hushed aurora]

how i can do this?

[reef fulcrum]

you can't

you need to design around the module seperation

[hushed aurora]

how im a beginner

[reef fulcrum]

quite simply, you can't

you need to design around it

[hushed aurora]

can you give me an example or somethin i do not understanding you 😦

[reef fulcrum]

Not really

Quite simply, you cannot access those classes from that module, and there is literally no way around that

[hushed aurora]

oh and how i use the classes i need them, i will fix the crashclients, but i need this imports

[reef fulcrum]

you cannot

[hushed aurora]

And now I can not fix clientcrasher?

like custompayload

[reef fulcrum]

You need to design around it

There is no magical solution, and handholding is gross

Some of this stuff is often easier to try to pull off with a plugin as you don't gotta deal with that

[hushed aurora]

But i have to chage stuf in MInecraftDecoder

But i have to fix kickall in a Waterfall.jar

Hello? @reef fulcrum ?

[tidal musk]

don't ping cat

[reef fulcrum]

Don't ping me

I've already described what you issue is

[tidal musk]

But i have to chage stuf in MInecraftDecoder
what stops you from doing that, lol?

[hushed aurora]

that i can't import classes of other modules

[tidal musk]

set up your classpath correctly then?

[reef fulcrum]

not a classpath issue

A depends on B depends on A is not legal

that

's a common PITA with waterfall dev

[hushed aurora]

Where are the BadPacket sended?

[kind karma]

what

[tidal musk]

wtf

don't do things what you can't understand lmao

[hushed aurora]

Ok, can someone say me how i can edit waterfall in eclipse °°?

[kind karma]

[tidal musk]

eclipse

[hushed aurora]

I can code better with eclipse

[foggy quest]

if im running forge do i put waterfall in the mods folder?

[marble kelp]

no

it's a proxy

works the same as bungeecord as it's just a fork

[foggy quest]

cool so for someone who has no need of bungycord

how do i do that?

[marble kelp]

do what?

[tidal musk]

do you know what's the purpose of bungee/waterfall?

[foggy quest]

use waterfall and forge, for someone whos never needed bungycord

[tidal musk]

what kind of a question is that

if you don't need waterfall then simply don't use it

smh

[foggy quest]

watefall is the fork that works with forge?

[tidal musk]

well more or less

[hushed aurora]

can someone say me how i can edit waterfall in eclipse °°?

[tidal musk]

no

[marble kelp]

same way as any other maven project

[tidal musk]

project devs here don't use eclipse

[foggy quest]

so i just launch watefall in the same folder as forge then? or?

[marble kelp]

no, use a separate folder

also you want to use sponge if you want ip/uuid forwarding (or a forge mod that adds it I guess)

[foggy quest]

um.. thats what modems are fore

[marble kelp]

wat?

[foggy quest]

portforwading

[marble kelp]

that has nothing to do with what I just said

[foggy quest]

?

[marble kelp]

I suggest reading up on what Bungee/Waterfall do

[foggy quest]

k link?

[marble kelp]

.g bungeecord

(phoenix616) https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord/ -- BungeeCord | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "Dec 13, 2014 ... The home of Spigot a high performance, no lag customized CraftBukkit Minecraft server API, and BungeeCord, the cloud server proxy."

[foggy quest]

no thanks

just waterfall

[marble kelp]

...

waterfall is a fork of bungeecord

[foggy quest]

so i can just use paper with forge then?

[tidal musk]

why do you need waterfall at first place?

do you want to link multiple servers together?

if that's the case, then you're looking at right software yes

if no, then forget about it

[marble kelp]

no, paper does not support forge mods

[tidal musk]

you don't need waterfall

[foggy quest]

ok so your saying forge is as potimized as paper or waterfall?

[marble kelp]

no?

[foggy quest]

and works with plugins?

[marble kelp]

that project has a completely different goal

[foggy quest]

then im in the right place

[marble kelp]

and this isn't forge

[foggy quest]

ya i got thta

[marble kelp]

nor is it "server that supports forge in any way"

[tidal musk]

wtf

maxtrax, start from the beginning

what do you need

[foggy quest]

so i geuss ill just run spigot

that works with forge

[marble kelp]

it doesn't

[tidal musk]

completely ignoring my question

fine, who needs help anyway

[foggy quest]

last time i used it did

[marble kelp]

it never did

you must've used something else

but #general I guess, this has nothing to do with waterfall

nor paper

[hushed aurora]

now i have the code in eclipse now how i can export them

[kind karma]

what

[tidal musk]

i'm using latest waterfall version

encountered exception java.lang.NullPointerException: null

throwing away from the server for reasons

[foggy quest]

https://mohist.red/ for furtue ref

[tidal musk]

[marble kelp]

m​ax​tr​ax​: well that's neither paper nor spigot ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[merry field]

what does "remote_ping_cache" do?

[tidal musk]

caches pings

[merry field]

what kind of value is it?

[brave jasper]

tfw ip leaking your users

[rugged basin]

tfw internet

[marble kelp]

does waterfall have a built-in way/event to change the brand or do I missremember that being a thing?

oh, it's just a plugin message?

[lime breach]

Brand???

[marble kelp]

press F3

[lime breach]

Oh

[marble kelp]

third row in the upper left corner

[lime breach]

The server version

Isn't that provided by Paper

[marble kelp]

it's provided by the server

waterfall modified it to show both, the server and the proxy info

or well, bungee I assume

[marble kelp]

Project Travertine build #137: SUCCESS in 1 min 42 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Travertine/137/

Project Waterfall build #341: SUCCESS in 3 min 25 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/341/

[tidal moth]

Hello !! I'd like to know if there is a way to make a Server just for the Nether and same for the End ?

[marble kelp]

yes but you are going to have to use some plugin to handle portals and inventory/player data syncing

[tidal moth]

For Inventory yeah Bungeeinventory with some MariaDB , but what kind of portal Plugin is good for that ?

Thanks for the quick answer

[plain marlin]

https://www.mc-market.org/resources/13492/ someone told me to use this

are the same exploits fixed in waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

we have some of them, I've been ill so not all of them

[plain marlin]

oh do u maintain this mainly?

[reef fulcrum]

No idea on the quality of those forks though, given the whole nature of open source, pretty crappy to like... you know, lock up the source

[plain marlin]

this is very true

[strange brook]

cat do you know who you're talking to

[tidal musk]

who is cat talking to then

[plain marlin]

?

[tidal musk]

who r u

[scenic pebble]

Lol I got the joke. Good one wiz.

If it has to be explained, ur not cool

[tidal musk]

glare smh

[unreal stag]

@plain marlin I analyzed a version of this a long time ago, the quality of the supposed "fixes" is quite poor

[kind karma]

quality

[cedar quiver]

How do we set waterfall to return protocol version 1.15.2? (It's currently returning protocol 578 (1.16)).

[kind karma]

you can't.

patch Waterfall

[tidal musk]

waterfall does not even support 1.16??

idk what you're using

[kind karma]

[tidal musk]

that's not waterfall

[cedar quiver]

Idk, it's returning protocol 578. I guess we'll update.

[kind karma]

are you ok

[royal hawk]

If you do need a waterfall that supports 1.16 I’d recommend you try my fork, more testers are always welcome

[gloomy torrent]

Hi i have this issues

[kind karma]

not Waterfall's issue

[gritty kestrel]

hi.

i have a problem with waterfall

[tidal musk]

I have question. When i make lobby server that players can will bypass the server lobby and connect immediately, for example: to skyblock withour procces registration/login?

[gritty kestrel]

random players join on lobby and they can do nothing

after 15-20 seconds

in console -> get ReadTimeoutException: Null
java.lang.NullPointerException

it's a waterfall issue?

many people got this error

and one more problem

in server list, the server appear offline

for random players

and they want to join, they got "Disconnected"

how to solve this problems?

[novel gyro]

Can we please see the full log file on a paste site like http://paste.gg? @gritty kestrel

[gritty kestrel]

[16:23:10] [Netty Worker IO Thread #12/INFO]: [LeoBoss] disconnected with: ReadTimeoutException : null

it's big

i cant paste on paste.gg

when they got disconnected, in bungee console don't appear any error

[west sage]

@gritty kestrel output of /bungee and /version please.

ReadTimeoutException: null occurs when bungee/waterfall loses connection to spigot/paper server. You will have to figure out why that is happening.

if you are not running latest, do so

if you dont want to, then tough luck. you are denied support.

[gritty kestrel]

This server is running Waterfall version git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.15-SNAPSHOT:87d2873:326 by md_5

i'll update today to latest version

[west sage]

update both waterfall and paper to latest

if problem does not stop, send your bungee and paper plugin lists

also, what is your host

[novel gyro]

by md_5

[gritty kestrel]

the host is from my country but i have this problem from i upgraded bungeecord to waterfall, 2 months ago

[gritty kestrel]

i updated

and same problem..

[dusk abyss]

Is it possible to have bungeecord/waterfall listen on a specific IP, but communicate with the backend servers over a different IP?

[unreal stag]

@dusk abyss Yes - use the different IP for the server connections in bungee.yml

[dusk abyss]

I mostly mean for the backend servers sending data back to bungee, instead of sending it to the address it's listening on to send it to a different address? Bungee's main address is routed through an external DDoS protection provider and don't really want server traffic having to go back through that. If this makes any sense

Might be a different way to go about it just not sure

[marble kelp]

unless you have set it up to do so bungee would not connect through the ddos protection provider to your backend servers

it would try to go the direct route through the internet if you don't force it to go through the ddos protection's host

[dusk abyss]

It's setup as a GRE tunnel, bungee is bound to that interface. The servers are on different machines and are configured with their own IPs that aren't routed through DDoS protection but everything goes through it anyway by the looks of it. May be a solution outside of bungee itself just not sure.

[marble kelp]

can you bind it to a local interface and forward incoming/outgoing traffic to that? and only route traffic to your backend servers to them directly and not through the tunnel

at least that's what I would try with such a setup (although I personally would just put everythign in a VPN and only allow outgoing through the tunnel)

[dusk abyss]

That's sort of what I was thinking to try, will see what I can do with it

[brittle siren]

net.md_5.bungee.util.QuietException: Unexpected packet received during server login process!

Anyone knows how to solve this?

Only a handful of players are experiencing this error ^

5 / 150 players connected in my server

[marble kelp]

iirc that might be due plugins sending strange packets

[reef fulcrum]

.paste

[marble kelp]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[empty bison]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/1a4271446cd843c0ae29065ba3aaaac5/revisions

[reef fulcrum]

speak to the plugin author

[empty bison]

And can you said me one motd good plugin?

That it works with travertine

[reef fulcrum]

literally any MOTD plugin made by a competent dev

[empty bison]

okay thanks

[marble kelp]

ServerListPlus is pretty much the best

for future reference ;D

[violet radish]

give perms?

[gloomy willow]

Hey, so I'm having an issue where spectators can't tp to other players using the hotbar. I've removed all plugins and datapacks, and the problem is still occurring. The weird thing is, it only occurs when connecting with our Waterfall server, not when joining the server directly. Does anyone have any ideas?

[marble kelp]

yeah, afaik bungee fucks with that somehow. remember seeing a fix config option in BungeeTabListPLus for that

[reef fulcrum]

wonder if it's the metadata rewriting

[mortal marlin]

Just moved to paper now I wish to know what are the positives over bungeecord that make waterfall better?

[royal hawk]

Yeaaaaa that seems oddly like the special meta rewriting at the very bottom of the EntityMap(s) where md_5 decided to hardcore the packet remap

For spectator packets ^

Or maybe I’m thinking of something unrelated

I’ll investigate into that issue however

@gloomy willow I want you to just confirm that this happens with normal bungeecord too so I can rule out that it’s a waterfall specific bug

[gloomy willow]

Uhhh How would I be able to test this?

Also: it doesn't happen on our other servers that are connected to the network, so I have no idea.

[covert portal]

That won't effect timeout at all.

[marble kelp]

-​Lu​ka​s-​: are they timing out from the proxy or the minecraft server?

[marble kelp]

sounds like they have a shitty connection. iirc. you can change the timeout somewhere

[unique linden]

Which connection said read timeout

Upstream wouldn't be minecraft

I thought downstream keep alive kick was just a kick

[west latch]

Having an issue where players in spectator are unable to go through blocks. When not connecting via waterfall spectator works fine.
Waterfall: v341 (Plugins: LuckPerms-Bungee-5.0.146; Multichat-1.8.1)
PaperMC: v229
MC: v1.15.2

[rough warren]

So i changed the server brand, or what should be the server brand to remove the version and make it smaller but in the F3 screen the screen does not get modified

anyone know whats up with that

[reef fulcrum]

issue there is often down to the server booting the client, common one is ip forwarding upsetting vanilla

[hallow echo]

Hello,

I got this issue with some players :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/706430954243227648/706431136708165632/smelt.PNG
This player is premium but he can't connect.. it worked yesterday
I got this error :
https://pastebin.com/RBRrjMrm

(I updated to paper 239, same issue )

[serene tide]

Please don't mention project developers

[serene tide]

Please remove the mention from the quote in the future

[gloomy torrent]

Hi i have issues with BUNGEECORD Modules

``permissions:
default:

• bungeecord.command.server
• bungeecord.command.list
  admin:
• bungeecord.command.alert
• bungeecord.command.end
• bungeecord.command.ip
• bungeecord.command.reload
• bungeetablistplus.admin
• bungeetablistplus.hide
• helpme.reply
• helpme.see
• bungeecord.command.alert``

I added these to player and admin

but when my player type /server

it said

you dont have permission

staff also

only can use /send

helpme

and /alert

how to fix

[marble kelp]

are you using any kind of permissions plugin?

(on the bungee)

[marble kelp]

1. don't ping random people

2. no, I don't use modded and have never done it. and if you aren't already doing it make sure that the modded server is the one you join first when connecting to the proxy with forge. no idea if that is related to your problem but that's the only hint Iknow, lol

[noble kestrel]

hey guys,

iam using Bungeecord but i cant connect to other srvers then the fallback.
I typed bungee in spigot and paper.yml true und entered the IP/Port at the bungee config.
but i get this error https://gyazo.com/1c8dfe1fc186e20f71bdf1c5863e7d43

[marble kelp]

?paste your bungee config.yml as well as your bungee log

Please paste all your code/errors/startup logs at http://hasteb.in/

[noble kestrel]

https://hasteb.in/ferolimo.yaml

https://hasteb.in/apatonic.makefile

[marble kelp]

uh, is that the complete config.yml? Oo

because it looks like there is stuff missing from it

[noble kestrel]

?

[marble kelp]

you are missing a lot of config settings in your config.yml

I suggest renaming it and letting the server regenerate it, then adding your config values from the old one

[noble kestrel]

oh its not the complete one

https://hasteb.in/texekeja.yaml

thats the complete

[marble kelp]

at which point in your log are you trying to connect to a different server?

[noble kestrel]

16:58:03 [INFO] [BungeeChat] COMMAND > TeamBlock > BigLife5: /server
16:58:05 [INFO] [BungeeChat] COMMAND > TeamBlock > BigLife5: /server RPG

16:58:29 [INFO] [BungeeChat] COMMAND > TeamBlock > BigLife5: /server VillageDefence

https://hasteb.in/yuxifiku.yaml

this is the paper.yml from the VD server

[marble kelp]

well your bungee log doesn't show anything happening

[noble kestrel]

so why i cant connect? 😄

[marble kelp]

did the servers you tried to connect to show anything in the log when you connected?

[noble kestrel]

nope

[marble kelp]

then there is something wrong with your connection between the proxy and the minecraft server. e.g. the server not listening on the address/port you specified in your proxy config or your firewall blocking access to it

[noble kestrel]

how could i accept the connection at the firewall?

allow the ports?

but if i entere the server in the minecraft serverlist, they get shown

now i tried to connect to the VD server, but there is no join request

ok it was the ufw

[marble kelp]

-​Lu​ka​s-​: mentioning a username is a ping. so yes, you did ping me

[round ocean]

irc boy life. irc needs no @ to get mentioned. 😄

[split frigate]

How does one set it so if I'm connected to a server and it shuts down, all players on that server will be sent to a specified sever?

[round ocean]

Set a fallback priority in the config.

priorities:
  - lobby
  - otherServerNameThatShouldBeFallback

[half quiver]

So I had an issue with advanced ban which I think caused me to time out.

So then I was like, hm what if I just check the database issues and see if there's anything wrong and there wasn't

So then I was like, hm what if I restart my bungee cord proxy

And now I got this:

For reference, this is the error I got with advanced ban bungee cord: https://hastebin.com/poyimupowe.pl

[split frigate]

I have lobby in the list, but when they are on a server that gets shutdown they don't go to the lobby

[half quiver]

agh I was hoping you or linux user would respond, not continue ur question agh

xd

[rigid crescent]

@lusty vault
First, sorry for the ping.
I think u are the main developer of waterfall so is there Anny wiki or tutorial out there and if so you can maybe link it to the github wiki?
Thanks already

[half quiver]

ooop

Reposting my question cause it's bured: https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555462214606389275/706620130418884648

there we go

[rigid crescent]

Wait wot I heard my name

[half quiver]

yeah I was hoping what you or yummiesttag was typing was responding to my question

lol

[reef fulcrum]

That exception means that the jar was modified while the server was running

[half quiver]

whaaa

but it wasn't tho

.-.

unles it was my host that did it?

[reef fulcrum]

I've heard of stupid hosts doing that stuff

[half quiver]

dammit

[reef fulcrum]

Automatically updating jars on people while the server is running, literally two bad practices in one

[half quiver]

yeah yeah

alrighty then I guess I should be able to restart and things should be able to work

ah yes it's downloading new jenkins modules

seems like that's the case

aka my host updated the jar smh

[reef fulcrum]

Also, luser, I've literally got 0 clue how you came to demon being the main dev, given that I don't think he's literally every commited to it, but 🤷‍♂️

beyond that, use the bungeecord install guide

[rigid crescent]

@reef fulcrum Where

I need the extended guide

[reef fulcrum]

don't ping

[rigid crescent]

K

Sry

[reef fulcrum]

What do you mean, "extended guide"

The only real thing that ain't documented is waterfall.yml, but, those are heavily a mixture of "don't touch if you don't understand", tbqf

[rigid crescent]

I found 1 but it was just shit

[reef fulcrum]

Well, the bungee wiki has an install guide and a firewall guide

I do wanna redo the documentation, but hundreds of people following their guides just fine

[rigid crescent]

Where do I find the wiki

[reef fulcrum]

.g bungeecord installation

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-installation/ -- BungeeCord Installation | SpigotMC - High Performance...: "Jan 9, 2020 ... Installing BungeeCord on Windows(top). 1. As a prerequisite, install Java 7 or above if you don't have it already (from Java.com)."

[rigid crescent]

OK nice

[lusty vault]

I don't even have a single commit in waterfall

[strange brook]

lmao

[candid panther]

Guys ! Do you have a good bungee plugin for queue ? please :(

[hard trench]

Does anyone know what could be going on? We tried changing java version to java 11 but had some problems so we reverted back to 8, now the server keeps disconnecting people randomly, not sure where to post cause there are no errors in paper or waterfall console, these are logs from the paper console, theres nothing else above this, its sudden and i have no idea what causes it

disconnects everyone at once

and when people try to join back it doesnt let them, but after a few minutes it lets people join again

theres nothing strange thats happening in the proxy console, just normal messages, no errors or anything

If you have any idea what it might be, message me or @ me but ill be going off to bed now, been trying to figure this out for about 6 hours straight

The server also doesnt crash or shut down it just kicks people

[strange yoke]

Fallback right ?

[hard trench]

Yes people are sent to the fallback server by a plugin we have

[marble kelp]

have you tried java 14 yet? xD

[hard trench]

no i havent, this crash is happening on java 8

it happened on 11 too

well not crash but kick i guess

we thought it was because of java 11 but then switched back to 8 and its still happening

[marble kelp]

well a full error might be helpful

also java 14 has this cool thing called +ShowCodeDetailsInExceptionMessages which shows cooler NPEs

[hard trench]

theres not much else on the log but i can pm it to you, i dont want to send it in global chat as it has players ips

[marble kelp]

don't

[hard trench]

Ok where should i send it then

[marble kelp]

you can't send it to IRC users anyways :P but that's besides the point

if you care about IPs redact them

what I meant is that a full error stack trace would be helpful, all you have is a single line

[strange brook]

fast throws only happen after the first one anyway

up at the top of that spam there should be a full stacktrace

[hard trench]

https://paste.helpch.at/rugegotupu.md

everyone gets kicked when it spams java.lang.NullPointerException

[marble kelp]

I mean, there is a plugin error there

might want to fix that first

[strange brook]

that's...the backend?

and

[hard trench]

I dont think its that plugin, nothing with plugins was changed and issue only appeared after we switched the java versions

the server is also on pterodactyl panel

does anyone know if the issue is with the proxy or the paper server

[marble kelp]

did you fix the plugin issue yet?

[hard trench]

thats been happening for like 6 months now i doubt it has anything to do with it

also this i how the proxy console looks after people are kicked

[strange brook]

a) the error is on your backend, this has nothing to do with #waterfall-help
b) you're running an and unsupported backend version

c) phoenix and I already told you how to look for the source of your error

[hard trench]

I didnt know if it was just backend, ill move this conversation to paper help thanks

[tidal musk]

Sorry complete noob:
Is 512 megabytes with i9 900K for waterfall enough for 30-70 Players ?

perhaps

[solar arch]

Hello

I want to know if someone know well about travertine/waterfall

I want to connect trought bungee proxy to a forge server witout spigot (also not using sponge)

but I cannot connect to the server

[strange brook]

you either need sponge or to find/write some other mod that will accept the proxy connection

[solar arch]

I have a mod that retake sponge methods and all for ip forwarding

I got that

when I try to connect

but I really don't understand why ...

nevermind

found a fix

[torpid timber]

I'm getting this error whilst connecting to a forge server bad packet ID, are mods in use!? Did not read all bytes from packet class net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.EntityEffect 79 Protocol GAME Direction TO_CLIENT I have run multiple server before but can only assume it's a mod i've not run before causing it. I've researched but can't seem to find a fix. Is there a way to allow bad packet IDs?

[marble kelp]

are you trying to switch to the forge server or are you directly joining it when connecting?

[torpid timber]

I originally had it set to connecting indirectly but was getting other issues with readtimeouts, so I tried putting the server at the top of the priority list

And that was the result

I have ran a server both with indirect and direct connection in the past using waterfall, forge and sponge and have not seen this error

Whilst I’m here I should also ask about timeouts as I’ve had issues with them in the past too